Great video! I just need a cooler that will last 3 days in 110-115 ° Temps. I can't justify paying $400 for a cooler or $259 for igloo imx which is the one I want. I feel like aside from inflation, that Yeti showed other businesses that, yes consumers will happily pay $400 for a cooler. Then other businesses followed driving prices up even more. So thanks Yeti.
mostly being made in the USA is a critical and important part of the Yeti experience... some of us don't fancy the idea of having a Chinese sweatshop made cooler for our outdoor experience.
@@kendellharbin well, I actually own a Samsung made in Korea ... but that said, some things we have no choice .. prime example is Mac computers .. but when and where I have a choice, I DO NOT buy made in China when I can avoid it..
Thank you for a great video. Having been in the manufacturing business, we see these general designs with different labels as a result of doing so much business in countries like China. Regardless if you have a patent here, the Chinese government forces companies to give up all their product information. It then gets mass produced then sold on commercial sites. Anyone can then create a company and begin selling without any product development whatsoever!
Just an FYI in the case of Yeti: they don't have patents on their roto-molded cooler designs. They ripped the design off of an exiting cooler company popular with fishermen in Japan.
A couple of modifications that might enhance the ice retention of your treeline is to line the wire basket with a plastic bag (with small hole to drain to bottom).. this will isolate the basket contents from the rest of the cooler, and the air space will insulate the basket considerably from warming via conduction. Melt water will conduct heat from the edges of the cooler otherwise and increase meltdown. Another modification would be to cut a fitted panel of *Reflectix (Home Depot or Lowes) and place over top of basket. This will help to decrease any radiant heat (If there's a space between lid top and reflectix top surface) transfer from cooler lid to interior content. Those mods may add a day or more to ice retention
Great vid that just validated my purchase of the 20qt Amazon Professional Cooler(also labeled as a Treeline, Expec, Landworks, etc). I too fell victim to YETI's marketing and bought the new Roadie 24 but then sent it back. I just couldn't justify spending $200+ on a COOLER. This Amazon Professional cooler is built like a tank and should last a long time. And it only cost me $105.00! Oh and for those who already have one, the huge Amazon Professional logo is just a sticker that you can easily peel off :)
Treeline is still sold at Tractor Supply. And sometimes they have significant sales.I got my 60qt Treeline for $99. Also RTIC 52qt cooler is slightly different than the other Rotomolded coolers. Most 45qt coolers are 29-30 lbs but the RTIC 52 is 21lbs. And RTIC comes with basket,a divider that is like a ice pack, and normally $199 but frequently on sales for $179. Though with ocean containers (used to ship from Asia factories) reaching $20,000 per container vs $4,000 container pre-COVID and other significant material cost increases, prices are going to rise.
Why you shouldn't put food in the basket up above the ice: rarely if ever is the air temperature up above the ice in the cooler at or below 40º F. This has been demonstrated repeatedly. You need to keep EVERYTHING perishable down in the ice bath to keep it at food safe temps. Get creative to keep it dry. The basket seems like a good idea but it's not. At least not for perishables that can spoil. Having said that, I have prepared a LOT of perishable food in my life that wasn't strictly kept at 40º or lower...
Amazing video. I think you would make an excellent detective or lawyer. You make convincing arguments in a calm and logical way. Thank you for saving me from my future Yeti purchase.
I was cleaning out a yeti and the lid came down and hit me in the head. Ouch. These coolers are way to heavy and cumberson to be handling a lot. Weight plays a big factor with me. and i like wheels. It makes moving them around so much easier.
The 6 days guaranteed is more if you don’t open and close the cooler....fishermen would take ice with them offshore for trips that’s last days and they don’t open and close the cooler till they are ready to use all the ice
I didn’t ever consider a Yeti. I ended up with a BougeRV 23 qt. DC fridge or freezer (pick one). Very happy with it. I also waited for a sale and got it for $175.
Great video production and very enjoyable! There are lies, d@mn lies, and statistics. I would put cooler tests next! I can see why you wanted to dump the water since dryness was your primary criteria, however you're tossing out a huge cold mass which is at 32 degrees Fahrenheit and would continue to cool your food up to a food safe temperature of 40 degrees. Say you tossed out 10 liters of water ( 2.64 gallons.) That's 10,000 mI X 8 degrees (40-32) or 80,000 calories of cooling wasted. I also agree with a comment below that the warranty and your ability to access it should be on your list at #10.
Subscribed, liked all vids i've seen! I dig your content. Your 4runner set up is 10/10! I'll be copying your platform. Keep up the good work, stay safe out there! :)
I found your video helpful and affirming, as I basically feel the same as you about the overpricing gig. I ended up ordering a super nice 45qt. Catergator from Webstaurant . It was $164.99. My only complaint is that a week later it went on sale for $129.99! I contacted store to see about returning and re-ordering at sale price but they charge a 30% re-stock fee so not worth the hassle. BTW, this is the same exact mold as the Yukon 45 which retails for $229.99
Happy to hear I can provide some affirmation. The whole thing is a racket, really. Getting any kind of deal feels like a win in the capitalist arena of cooler consumerism
Well just bought a 2002 4 runner 3 weeks ago at a fair price and it’s got 187000 miles on it and it runs great, and yes it’s going to be my hopefully get a small fishing boat hauler🛶 + overnite camping rig, 🏕and I had just found a Coleman 30qt. cooler at the local Goodwill store that looked like brand new for $4.98 and of course had to try it out , I tossed a 16 lb bag of ice in it with drinks and it lasted 2- 3/4 days inside the back of the vehicle ( mind you I live in west central Florida ) the outside temps were 80 ish but as we know the inside of a vehicle can get a lot warmer inside , I think I got my money’s worth , looking forward to using it and viewing more of your( cool !) vid’s 👍, now were’s my dam fishing pole🤔 🎣
Nice.. I see people are defensive about your test. I'm guessing that's because they've already bought a $500 cooler. I saw you put ice in all of them and show how long it took the ice to melt in each. That's good enough for me. Good job.
Not supposed to drain the water. It introduces air which doesn't keep things cold. I've been using Coleman Xtreme 5 day coolers for the last 10 years and they do indeed keep ice for 5 days. I have some gripes about some parts of it, but they get the job done and were very affordable.
Well I have tried multiple times to find these manufacturers that sell ice chest blanks. No luck , zero, nada. Help please, can you give me a one or more links to these?
Another great video! For years I had an original Coleman Steel Belted cooler, until the latch fell off. I guess I could have just bought another latch but upon closer inspection the metal was beginning to separate from the plastic. I started looking for a replacement. I looked at the Yeti's but just couldn't bring myself to spend that kind of money. Finally bought an Igloo BMX 72 Qt cooler for $160. Ive been very satisfied.
Woo! Been waiting for this one since the camp supply video, lol. Really love your style of video and it is a crime that you don’t have more subs. I’d since scored a used Igloo IMX 24qt for $40 but was waiting for this vid before making a choice on the full size cooler. Please keep doing what you’re doing! The effort you put into your vids really shows. Sittin tight for the next, hopefully, in the series. Stay awesome! 🖖🏽🤓
Okay fair. I find that different brands excel at different flavors though. For instance, LaCroix nailed the grapefruit, but waterloo does coconut better. CALL ME CRAZY.... but I dont have allegiance to any one brand
If you’re going out into the backcountry for several days, hunting or fishing, then pre-chilling any cooler really is the only option. Using those freeze packs (the ones with lower freezing point than ice) as a base layer also makes a huge difference. Of course making sure all your food is pre-chilled/frozen is key. Again, this is for serious outdoor scenarios where gas station ice is not an option. If you just need a cooler for parties or weekend car camping, you don’t need a rotomolded cooler. But following those rules with any cooler, will get you through a whole weekend nicely. I was given a Yeti, and though it works well, and is well-made, I’d never pay full price for one.
I bought a Gott 50 quart cooler in late 90s. I still have it and am using it today to keep food warm. It does that. You can get the same cooler for around $25.00. I don't use ice; I use bottles I freeze then use them. It works for days; it even keeps bags of ice, for drinks, frozen. Anybody buying a $200.00 cooler has too much money to spend. BYW if you do dump ice in keep in mind it's ice water that cools, not ice.
Hey Thanks. And yeah, really I should have titled this video 'evidence as to why a fridge is better if you can afford it, but if not just buy a cheap cooler because it doesn't matter too much'.... ha!
first off your hens are beautiful!!! not as beautiful as my hens of course but beautiful just the same. great video i bought a 45 qt treeline a few months ago and im really happy with it. i went camping with a friend of mine last week and it did just as good as his yeti in the high desert in california.
You’re a good story teller and should make more videos. As for the the coolers, I think people should avoid them and go instead with a proper 12v fridge like IceCo.
Thanks! And yeah, I agree. The more long-term traveling I do, the more I recommend a 12v fridge. That being said, if you often jump between car and boat (the low budget kind with no power) the cooler is a good portable option I find.
@@kendellharbin I just found your videos while researching car camping conversions and I really like them. I would love to see you continue the series and cover the topics you mentioned in the first video!
Rtic has 2.75" of insulation and Yeti has 2.25" they are different blanks. FDA also recommends keeping fridge at 38f (below 40, as 40 is the not in the safe) Rotomolders will often use very similar design queues. None of these coolers are currently under $200. Buying 2x$159 coolers (because of lack of warranty) within 2 years, vs buying a $250 cooler for 10 years....
Different strokes for different folks. Buy what works for you. I’ve saved over $2000 on ice in the last 5 years going from a regular Coleman cooler to an orca 26. It’s not for everyone unless you just like really nice things regardless of price. For my job my cooler sits in a black box on the railroad all day everyday. I was spending over $10 a day on ice because the truck box was routinely over 150 degrees inside. The orca cut my spending by more than half and for my situation it was the way to go. If your a regular schmo you probably don’t really need it.
Not sure what you're channel is about but enjoyed your scientific analysis of the coolers and the style was "Caseyesue" but with your own twist. Sub'd 👍🏼
WOW, thank you for this video. I just come off vacation a few weeks ago and said I need a new cooler. I was looking at the Yeti and the Orca. Something just didnt sit right with me for the price they charge. The one with wheels was $500.00!!. I saw your video and was so surprised about the coolers basically being all the same except for the name. Well I found a very nice one for $230.00 with wheels at 45 quart by XSPEC. Thank you for all your hard research I am very happy with my new find ❤
This is great informative video! But, something that is often over looked is warranty and warranty PROCESS. Warranties are nice, but they’re irrelevant if you have to jump through hoops to take advantage of it or it’s denied for something or the other. Yeti goes above and beyond for warranties claims. I’m sure there’s other companies that do as well, and paying a lot more for that might not be worth it to some, but in my opinion should be considered as a major part of the value of a product and not just the physical characteristics of the product itself.
Excellent point Colton. I totally agree that warranty and customer service are a valuable factor to consider in the purchase of a large item. However, I am not sure sure I can justify "needing a warranty" for a cooler. Ha! Call me old fashioned.
@@kendellharbin consider if you are a serious camper or hunter and a bear gets into your bear proof cooler though. the random chinesium knockoff brands like treeline probably wont care. or exist anymore. while yeti, orca and engel likely will be around much longer. it is true that a lot of "brands" share the exact same mold basically, but its companies like yeti that spend money doing r & d and have better warranties and customer service, then china makes knockoffs because they couldnt possibly care less about patents or laws that stop that sort of thing here. its a pretty big problem overall and part of why exporting the majority of our manufacturing to china has hurt so many while people simply think "oh ill just buy this cheap knockoff brand, its basically the same thing". there are some cooler manufacturers that make more in america and their products are probably more unique, probably more expensive too. orca, pelican, grizzly, even some igloo for example. in general thats just the way things work these days because the vast majority of people are far more concerned about saving some $$ than buying american/local. and a lot just dont know its happening at all too. but these days its just 1 factory in china makes a product that 10 different brands all buy and slap their sticker on, including some "luxury brands" in some categories. so there is definitely a coolergate scandal, just a matter of who actually designed the products vs who is dropshipping somebody elses stolen designs from china. and im pretty sure that treeline model is now being sold under the "amazon commercial" brand as a generic "rotomolded cooler". i just saw some of those on amazon today and it has the same 2 angles and latches so very likely from same place. good comparison though! even if the winner was some random chinesium, they arent necessarily inferior products so not always a bad choice. and greetings from south kc, probably the worst place to do any sort of heat related test when its a giant, overly humid, sticky 120 degree sauna through the summer months!
@@turdferguson7686 All such great points to consider. And thank you for validating that a.) coolergate is real, b.) Just because something is a knock off, doesnt mean it's inferior, and c.) KC is depressingly hot these days. I just took my cooler for a day trip to lawrence on the 4th and everything was melted by the end of the day. No cooler is safe.
The problem with Yeti warranty is you have to ship the entire cooler back to them at your expense. Try finding a cheap and solid packaging that will handle a 50 quart cooler and then you have the massive amount it cost to ship something this heavy and bulky across the country. And what isn't covered by their warranty? Of course the item that breaks the most which is the lid latches. Those are $17.00. And expect to replace them once a year if you use the cooler more than half a dozen times a year. There are several American made coolers that have much better warranty. If you are going to spend that kind of money purchase a Kong cooler. The latches are better and easier to use and ice retention is a bit better. Their warranty is lifetime instead of 3 to 5 years.
Engel is NOT an "off brand" cooler. Engel is the ORIGINAL hard side cooler brand. They pioneered the industry and the construction by which all others are made.
Yeti, Orca, Rtic are not the same mold. Similar design, but absolutely not the same mold. XSpec, Bird Dog, Seavilis, Landworks are all the same, no argument there! That said, I wouldn't spend my money on Yeti, Corca, Rtic, similar coolers, either.
Is that the Joyful swamp goblins home at the end? Also, I can't believe you deleted my comment. WOW, I'm not picking you up from the airport tomorrow. good luck!
I love your video content and production! I keep used1.5 litre Ice tea jugs or zip lock bags filled with water in the freezer for when I need cooler ice. Block ice is better for two 0r three days. Get a cheap digital thermometer to monitor the inside temperature in the cooler , If you need a lot if cubed ice Costco Business Centers her in Canada sell it much cheaper than grocery stores or gas stations.
I love your storytelling style. New subscriber here, great content!!! Thank you for sharing. It's taking me months to decide on a cooler for our global overland expedition.
@@kendellharbin Don't be jealous, attack your goals one by one, go for it, we are not the first or last to embark on such journey. Having the vision and the passion towards your aspirations and goals are the true motor to all your adventures. It's hard work, challenging and lot's of planning, however, experiencing new countries and their cultures through over landing is wonderful and life changing. Best of luck!
Love this video… sure, there a few gaps in the science but you clearly (with some beautiful sarcasm) admit that… the point is that you think about this whole thing differently from almost every other video out there… and you hit the nail on the head about keeping food dry because I’m watching all these guys on fishing trips with a box full of beer thinking “yeah but what about packs of cling film wrapped meat!?” (Which aren’t exactly watertight)… I’m now search for coolers that have a basket. Love the style and animation, matching your nails with the prompts etc… really refreshing and different : )
i totally agree i fell for the marketing like an idiot. Yeti didn't work any better at ice retention than my Coleman. the Coleman is a third of the cost of what i paid for the yeti .i hang my head in shame. i really research the products i buy and i deff screwed up buying the yeti. its not worth the money....peace out
I’m proud of your decision to make a cooler video. Unless you bad mouth the one I ordered 2 days ago. Then I am not proud. Thank you for your service/possible disservice
Tell me you're not an Engineer or critical thinker without telling me you're not an Engineer. I love the "Assumptions" in this when saying there are only a few manufacturers. You specifically compared Orca to a couple China brands when Orca rotomold's there coolers in Tennessee (FYI they have videos online of there facility). Also you fail to realize some manufacturers may or may not insulate the lids, further dividing the models. Most China companies manufacture goods to customer specs and while they may look the same they can be drastically different in quality per customer specs. Also the chill before use applies to any cooler, if you put a bag of ice in a 90 deg cooler it's not going to last as long as a 40 deg cooler and that's the way all of these manufacturers substantiate there claims.
Great video! I just need a cooler that will last 3 days in 110-115 ° Temps. I can't justify paying $400 for a cooler or $259 for igloo imx which is the one I want. I feel like aside from inflation, that Yeti showed other businesses that, yes consumers will happily pay $400 for a cooler. Then other businesses followed driving prices up even more. So thanks Yeti.
mostly being made in the USA is a critical and important part of the Yeti experience... some of us don't fancy the idea of having a Chinese sweatshop made cooler for our outdoor experience.
What about you chinese sweat shop made phone? I guess we all must pick our battles when it comes to consumerism...
@@kendellharbin well, I actually own a Samsung made in Korea ... but that said, some things we have no choice .. prime example is Mac computers .. but when and where I have a choice, I DO NOT buy made in China when I can avoid it..
I love your humor. Also great editing and overall execution, thank you!
Thank you :-) Glad you enjoyed it!
Agree. Interesting and entertaining videos.
totally.
Best advice on coolers out there!!!! Thanks girl for your time, efforts, and $ you spent to make this vid! Cute pup.
Thanks Hesty!
Absolutely awesome video. You do terrific work, and will grow quickly. Thanks again!
Thanks Grant :-)
Thank you for a great video. Having been in the manufacturing business, we see these general designs with different labels as a result of doing so much business in countries like China. Regardless if you have a patent here, the Chinese government forces companies to give up all their product information. It then gets mass produced then sold on commercial sites. Anyone can then create a company and begin selling without any product development whatsoever!
Preach Bill!
Just an FYI in the case of Yeti: they don't have patents on their roto-molded cooler designs. They ripped the design off of an exiting cooler company popular with fishermen in Japan.
@@cooper9917 the plot thickens!
@@cooper9917 how do you know?
@@cooper9917 what are your sources about it?
I like people who don't like wasting money. Good video.
Thanks!
A couple of modifications that might enhance the ice retention of your treeline is to line the wire basket with a plastic bag (with small hole to drain to bottom).. this will isolate the basket contents from the rest of the cooler, and the air space will insulate the basket considerably from warming via conduction. Melt water will conduct heat from the edges of the cooler otherwise and increase meltdown. Another modification would be to cut a fitted panel of *Reflectix (Home Depot or Lowes) and place over top of basket. This will help to decrease any radiant heat (If there's a space between lid top and reflectix top surface) transfer from cooler lid to interior content. Those mods may add a day or more to ice retention
This is definitely worth testing! Thanks for the detailed tips
Great vid that just validated my purchase of the 20qt Amazon Professional Cooler(also labeled as a Treeline, Expec, Landworks, etc). I too fell victim to YETI's marketing and bought the new Roadie 24 but then sent it back. I just couldn't justify spending $200+ on a COOLER. This Amazon Professional cooler is built like a tank and should last a long time. And it only cost me $105.00! Oh and for those who already have one, the huge Amazon Professional logo is just a sticker that you can easily peel off :)
Glad to hear you have found the light!
Treeline is still sold at Tractor Supply. And sometimes they have significant sales.I got my 60qt Treeline for $99. Also RTIC 52qt cooler is slightly different than the other Rotomolded coolers. Most 45qt coolers are 29-30 lbs but the RTIC 52 is 21lbs. And RTIC comes with basket,a divider that is like a ice pack, and normally $199 but frequently on sales for $179. Though with ocean containers (used to ship from Asia factories) reaching $20,000 per container vs $4,000 container pre-COVID and other significant material cost increases, prices are going to rise.
All excellent points and good info!
I just got a treeline for my birthday a few days ago and I love it! I would never buy yeti
treeline for liffeeeee
Nice review but wildly inaccurate.
"Earth All Night- Exhibit A YETI, ORCA, RTIC if you look closely they are all the same cooler. "
Ha, yes a fair judgement if taken too literally
Why you shouldn't put food in the basket up above the ice: rarely if ever is the air temperature up above the ice in the cooler at or below 40º F. This has been demonstrated repeatedly. You need to keep EVERYTHING perishable down in the ice bath to keep it at food safe temps. Get creative to keep it dry. The basket seems like a good idea but it's not. At least not for perishables that can spoil. Having said that, I have prepared a LOT of perishable food in my life that wasn't strictly kept at 40º or lower...
Great info here! Also can’t wait for your lighting video if you still plan on that. Also rad that you’re a Midwesterner - I’m in St Louis
Woo STL!
@@kendellharbin about to start making some videos myself on my build. Have a Forester I’ve been working on.
Amazing video. I think you would make an excellent detective or lawyer. You make convincing arguments in a calm and logical way. Thank you for saving me from my future Yeti purchase.
“This is in no way shape or form to be construed as legal advice” but you are welcome :-)
The roto-mold rabbit hole, oh Lord I had no idea what I was getting myself into and you're proving it...... 😳
Reminds me of the Dr. Squatch brand who just rebadge soaps and jack the price up 5x.
Excellent production value and great information. Cant believe you only have 800 subscribers. I'm sure that will grow quickly.
Thanks Tyler!
Spending $ on new stuff is STUPID. Thrift stores are awesome.
wow I love this channel!
I was cleaning out a yeti and the lid came down and hit me in the head. Ouch. These coolers are way to heavy and cumberson to be handling a lot. Weight plays a big factor with me. and i like wheels. It makes moving them around so much easier.
My solution to keeping food dry is to freeze drinking water bottles ahead of time. Keeps food cold, dry, and I can drink the water too.
The 6 days guaranteed is more if you don’t open and close the cooler....fishermen would take ice with them offshore for trips that’s last days and they don’t open and close the cooler till they are ready to use all the ice
Interesting point!
This was a great review Vid...I appreciate the info you have provided... florida rules
I didn’t ever consider a Yeti. I ended up with a BougeRV 23 qt. DC fridge or freezer (pick one). Very happy with it. I also waited for a sale and got it for $175.
That tells you how big a rip off yeti is when you can buy an actual refrigerator for the same price or less.
Great video production and very enjoyable! There are lies, d@mn lies, and statistics. I would put cooler tests next! I can see why you wanted to dump the water since dryness was your primary criteria, however you're tossing out a huge cold mass which is at 32 degrees Fahrenheit and would continue to cool your food up to a food safe temperature of 40 degrees. Say you tossed out 10 liters of water ( 2.64 gallons.) That's 10,000 mI X 8 degrees (40-32) or 80,000 calories of cooling wasted. I also agree with a comment below that the warranty and your ability to access it should be on your list at #10.
This is a fair point!
Subscribed, liked all vids i've seen! I dig your content. Your 4runner set up is 10/10! I'll be copying your platform. Keep up the good work, stay safe out there! :)
I found your video helpful and affirming, as I basically feel the same as you about the overpricing gig.
I ended up ordering a super nice 45qt. Catergator from Webstaurant . It was $164.99. My only complaint is that a week later it went on sale for $129.99! I contacted store to see about returning and re-ordering at sale price but they charge a 30% re-stock fee so not worth the hassle. BTW, this is the same exact mold as the Yukon 45 which retails for $229.99
Happy to hear I can provide some affirmation. The whole thing is a racket, really. Getting any kind of deal feels like a win in the capitalist arena of cooler consumerism
Well just bought a 2002 4 runner 3 weeks ago at a fair price and it’s got 187000 miles on it and it runs great, and yes it’s going to be my hopefully get a small fishing boat hauler🛶 + overnite camping rig, 🏕and I had just found a Coleman 30qt. cooler at the local Goodwill store that looked like brand new for $4.98 and of course had to try it out , I tossed a 16 lb bag of ice in it with drinks and it lasted 2- 3/4 days inside the back of the vehicle ( mind you I live in west central Florida ) the outside temps were 80 ish but as we know the inside of a vehicle can get a lot warmer inside , I think I got my money’s worth , looking forward to using it and viewing more of your( cool !) vid’s 👍, now were’s my dam fishing pole🤔 🎣
Hekk yeah dave! Sounds like you scored
Nice.. I see people are defensive about your test. I'm guessing that's because they've already bought a $500 cooler. I saw you put ice in all of them and show how long it took the ice to melt in each. That's good enough for me. Good job.
Ha! I suspect you are right. I think I need to make that “100% science” claim more obvious
Ice will keep longer with less air in the cooler. If you don't fill up the cooler all the way with food/drink and ice, the ice will melt faster.
I got a $65.00 Colman 25 years ago, and it still to this day outlasts my friends $400.00 yeti. Yeti sucks for the price.
I love to hear this!
Ugly cooler?? I buy yeti cause they are the best looking.
Not supposed to drain the water. It introduces air which doesn't keep things cold. I've been using Coleman Xtreme 5 day coolers for the last 10 years and they do indeed keep ice for 5 days. I have some gripes about some parts of it, but they get the job done and were very affordable.
Things may not stay quite as cold, but ice lasts longer with no water
I wonder how any of these would compare to a box made of 2" insulation foam.
Well I have tried multiple times to find these manufacturers that sell ice chest blanks. No luck , zero, nada. Help please, can you give me a one or more links to these?
China google AHIC coolers. From the web page it appears that they do most of the copy designs.
Another great video! For years I had an original Coleman Steel Belted cooler, until the latch fell off. I guess I could have just bought another latch but upon closer inspection the metal was beginning to separate from the plastic. I started looking for a replacement. I looked at the Yeti's but just couldn't bring myself to spend that kind of money. Finally bought an Igloo BMX 72 Qt cooler for $160. Ive been very satisfied.
Oooo Those old colemans are cool!
Sorry but i cant stop staring at that hat😂😂🤮
I keep frozen 2 liter soda bottles in my deep freezer to charge my coolers.
file this under hot tips. Thanks!
Woo! Been waiting for this one since the camp supply video, lol. Really love your style of video and it is a crime that you don’t have more subs. I’d since scored a used Igloo IMX 24qt for $40 but was waiting for this vid before making a choice on the full size cooler. Please keep doing what you’re doing! The effort you put into your vids really shows. Sittin tight for the next, hopefully, in the series.
Stay awesome! 🖖🏽🤓
Thanks for this thoughtful comment mike!
This video was very helpful, thank you
I'm so glad. You're welcome!
Agree with it all except the LaCroix. Either Waterloo or a store brand is better. IMO.
Okay fair. I find that different brands excel at different flavors though. For instance, LaCroix nailed the grapefruit, but waterloo does coconut better. CALL ME CRAZY.... but I dont have allegiance to any one brand
Your effort!!!! Love this
Underrated youtube channel! Great info. Keep uploading!
Thanks for your time and effort with this, and thanks for sharing.
Not funny, pay for a talented writer
The only thing I would put in a Yeti is a couple of pounds of C4.
ha!
If you’re going out into the backcountry for several days, hunting or fishing, then pre-chilling any cooler really is the only option. Using those freeze packs (the ones with lower freezing point than ice) as a base layer also makes a huge difference. Of course making sure all your food is pre-chilled/frozen is key. Again, this is for serious outdoor scenarios where gas station ice is not an option. If you just need a cooler for parties or weekend car camping, you don’t need a rotomolded cooler. But following those rules with any cooler, will get you through a whole weekend nicely. I was given a Yeti, and though it works well, and is well-made, I’d never pay full price for one.
all excellent points!
I refuse to spend more than 60 bucks on a cooler. Great video tho!
I think this is actually a really sane position to take. I'm just in too deep!
I bought a Gott 50 quart cooler in late 90s. I still have it and am using it today to keep food warm. It does that. You can get the same cooler for around $25.00. I don't use ice; I use bottles I freeze then use them. It works for days; it even keeps bags of ice, for drinks, frozen. Anybody buying a $200.00 cooler has too much money to spend. BYW if you do dump ice in keep in mind it's ice water that cools, not ice.
Short end of the story, YETI has the best name, nothing else.
Exactly.
Ugh, another ‘t’ dropper!
This was the video I didn't know I needed in my life.
I just bought a tree line cooler yesterday. I hope it was a good buy.
I’d say it’s a good choice!
I gotta' have one with wheels.
Did you purchase the worse hat you could possibly find?
That is generally my goal. Thank you for noticing
Sorry just wished in my opinion get to the point
to much wasted words.
Your brevity has me confused...
I like your research and presentation. I felt like I got ripped off buying yeti now I am looking for fridge instead of coolers
Hey Thanks. And yeah, really I should have titled this video 'evidence as to why a fridge is better if you can afford it, but if not just buy a cheap cooler because it doesn't matter too much'.... ha!
first off your hens are beautiful!!! not as beautiful as my hens of course but beautiful just the same. great video i bought a 45 qt treeline a few months ago and im really happy with it. i went camping with a friend of mine last week and it did just as good as his yeti in the high desert in california.
This my fave channel! #1 best cooler purchase advice video on the internet!!!!!!!
:-) Shucks!
I got a Yeti half price . Truly a great cooler. But I would never spend the money if it was not half the price.
You’re a good story teller and should make more videos.
As for the the coolers, I think people should avoid them and go instead with a proper 12v fridge like IceCo.
Thanks! And yeah, I agree. The more long-term traveling I do, the more I recommend a 12v fridge. That being said, if you often jump between car and boat (the low budget kind with no power) the cooler is a good portable option I find.
@@kendellharbin I just found your videos while researching car camping conversions and I really like them. I would love to see you continue the series and cover the topics you mentioned in the first video!
Being the owner of 2 yeti coolers my choice may be marginally better or worse than the rest and that makes me feel great thank you 😂
haha id say the same if invested nearly a thousand into coolers
@@Murmurrr Not even close, try $400 even
your cool
Love the quality content! 👌🏽
Glad to hear it!
This video was well edited and put together! I like your style.
Rtic has 2.75" of insulation and Yeti has 2.25" they are different blanks. FDA also recommends keeping fridge at 38f (below 40, as 40 is the not in the safe) Rotomolders will often use very similar design queues. None of these coolers are currently under $200. Buying 2x$159 coolers (because of lack of warranty) within 2 years, vs buying a $250 cooler for 10 years....
Damn inflation
Different strokes for different folks. Buy what works for you. I’ve saved over $2000 on ice in the last 5 years going from a regular Coleman cooler to an orca 26. It’s not for everyone unless you just like really nice things regardless of price. For my job my cooler sits in a black box on the railroad all day everyday. I was spending over $10 a day on ice because the truck box was routinely over 150 degrees inside. The orca cut my spending by more than half and for my situation it was the way to go. If your a regular schmo you probably don’t really need it.
Thanks for sharing - this is such a great example of why quality matters in the long run
That’s funny, snail runner. As a fellow 4Runner owner I understand!
By far, one of the best reviews I've seen. Good job
Why thank you Chao
Not sure what you're channel is about but enjoyed your scientific analysis of the coolers and the style was "Caseyesue" but with your own twist. Sub'd 👍🏼
Loving your channel. Well produced vids and useful info. Thanks from another 4Runner sleeper.
Hey thanks!
WOW, thank you for this video. I just come off vacation a few weeks ago and said I need a new cooler. I was looking at the Yeti and the Orca. Something just didnt sit right with me for the price they charge. The one with wheels was $500.00!!. I saw your video and was so surprised about the coolers basically being all the same except for the name. Well I found a very nice one for $230.00 with wheels at 45 quart by XSPEC. Thank you for all your hard research I am very happy with my new find ❤
This is great informative video! But, something that is often over looked is warranty and warranty PROCESS. Warranties are nice, but they’re irrelevant if you have to jump through hoops to take advantage of it or it’s denied for something or the other. Yeti goes above and beyond for warranties claims. I’m sure there’s other companies that do as well, and paying a lot more for that might not be worth it to some, but in my opinion should be considered as a major part of the value of a product and not just the physical characteristics of the product itself.
Excellent point Colton. I totally agree that warranty and customer service are a valuable factor to consider in the purchase of a large item. However, I am not sure sure I can justify "needing a warranty" for a cooler. Ha! Call me old fashioned.
@@kendellharbin consider if you are a serious camper or hunter and a bear gets into your bear proof cooler though. the random chinesium knockoff brands like treeline probably wont care. or exist anymore. while yeti, orca and engel likely will be around much longer. it is true that a lot of "brands" share the exact same mold basically, but its companies like yeti that spend money doing r & d and have better warranties and customer service, then china makes knockoffs because they couldnt possibly care less about patents or laws that stop that sort of thing here. its a pretty big problem overall and part of why exporting the majority of our manufacturing to china has hurt so many while people simply think "oh ill just buy this cheap knockoff brand, its basically the same thing". there are some cooler manufacturers that make more in america and their products are probably more unique, probably more expensive too. orca, pelican, grizzly, even some igloo for example. in general thats just the way things work these days because the vast majority of people are far more concerned about saving some $$ than buying american/local. and a lot just dont know its happening at all too. but these days its just 1 factory in china makes a product that 10 different brands all buy and slap their sticker on, including some "luxury brands" in some categories. so there is definitely a coolergate scandal, just a matter of who actually designed the products vs who is dropshipping somebody elses stolen designs from china. and im pretty sure that treeline model is now being sold under the "amazon commercial" brand as a generic "rotomolded cooler". i just saw some of those on amazon today and it has the same 2 angles and latches so very likely from same place. good comparison though! even if the winner was some random chinesium, they arent necessarily inferior products so not always a bad choice. and greetings from south kc, probably the worst place to do any sort of heat related test when its a giant, overly humid, sticky 120 degree sauna through the summer months!
@@turdferguson7686 All such great points to consider. And thank you for validating that a.) coolergate is real, b.) Just because something is a knock off, doesnt mean it's inferior, and c.) KC is depressingly hot these days. I just took my cooler for a day trip to lawrence on the 4th and everything was melted by the end of the day. No cooler is safe.
@@kendellharbin ha, nothing is safe in this nasty weather. and its time to spread the word on coolergate because everybody needs to know!
The problem with Yeti warranty is you have to ship the entire cooler back to them at your expense. Try finding a cheap and solid packaging that will handle a 50 quart cooler and then you have the massive amount it cost to ship something this heavy and bulky across the country. And what isn't covered by their warranty? Of course the item that breaks the most which is the lid latches. Those are $17.00. And expect to replace them once a year if you use the cooler more than half a dozen times a year. There are several American made coolers that have much better warranty. If you are going to spend that kind of money purchase a Kong cooler. The latches are better and easier to use and ice retention is a bit better. Their warranty is lifetime instead of 3 to 5 years.
Engel is NOT an "off brand" cooler. Engel is the ORIGINAL hard side cooler brand. They pioneered the industry and the construction by which all others are made.
This is a fair point! I supposed a more accurate term would be 'Competitor' in relation to the dominate name brand YETI
Yeti, Orca, Rtic are not the same mold. Similar design, but absolutely not the same mold.
XSpec, Bird Dog, Seavilis, Landworks are all the same, no argument there!
That said, I wouldn't spend my money on Yeti, Corca, Rtic, similar coolers, either.
You are totally correct. Note to self: Use ‘more or less the same’ in next video so people dont take things too literally ;-)
Is that the Joyful swamp goblins home at the end? Also, I can't believe you deleted my comment. WOW, I'm not picking you up from the airport tomorrow. good luck!
Yes it is, and i swear I didnt. That right there is some magic shit. Too powerful to live on the internet, exploding like a suepr nova
I love your video content and production!
I keep used1.5 litre Ice tea jugs or zip lock bags filled with water in the freezer for when I need cooler ice. Block ice is better for two 0r three days. Get a cheap digital thermometer to monitor the inside temperature in the cooler , If you need a lot if cubed ice Costco Business Centers her in Canada sell it much cheaper than grocery stores or gas stations.
These are all great tips!
Baske??
I bought a yeti tundra . No regrats
Make it a toyota tundra and I'm sold!
Really great video! ill be sure to watch out for those feature when I shop for a cooler
I love your storytelling style. New subscriber here, great content!!! Thank you for sharing. It's taking me months to decide on a cooler for our global overland expedition.
Thanks for this feedback -- I am jealous to hear to are about to embark on a global trip!!
@@kendellharbin Don't be jealous, attack your goals one by one, go for it, we are not the first or last to embark on such journey. Having the vision and the passion towards your aspirations and goals are the true motor to all your adventures. It's hard work, challenging and lot's of planning, however, experiencing new countries and their cultures through over landing is wonderful and life changing. Best of luck!
Love this video… sure, there a few gaps in the science but you clearly (with some beautiful sarcasm) admit that… the point is that you think about this whole thing differently from almost every other video out there… and you hit the nail on the head about keeping food dry because I’m watching all these guys on fishing trips with a box full of beer thinking “yeah but what about packs of cling film wrapped meat!?” (Which aren’t exactly watertight)… I’m now search for coolers that have a basket.
Love the style and animation, matching your nails with the prompts etc… really refreshing and different : )
Chris, thank you for this, and especially for noticing the nail color details!
What basket was it that you found
I wish I could give you more specifics. It was the most unidentifiable thing you could ever find in a home depot...
i totally agree i fell for the marketing like an idiot. Yeti didn't work any better at ice retention than my Coleman. the Coleman is a third of the cost of what i paid for the yeti .i hang my head in shame. i really research the products i buy and i deff screwed up buying the yeti. its not worth the money....peace out
"Hang my head in shame" -- Ha! we've all been there. Thanks for your honesty
Kong coolers are made in USA plus accessories are pretty cool
Excellent review.
I think it is overall best to have a secondary smaller cooler just for the drinks as well. (main for food)
Totally agree - if you have the space this is a good method
I knew it, the Yeti design concept was copied too fast, with no patent infringement. Well done.
this is amazing and you sound like sarah vowell HUGE BONUS
Thank you! I was about to get caught up in all the hype. You’ve just saved me some $$$.
Just doing my job folks :-)
I’m proud of your decision to make a cooler video. Unless you bad mouth the one I ordered 2 days ago. Then I am not proud. Thank you for your service/possible disservice
Ha! Thank you. And you're welcome.
Tell me you're not an Engineer or critical thinker without telling me you're not an Engineer. I love the "Assumptions" in this when saying there are only a few manufacturers. You specifically compared Orca to a couple China brands when Orca rotomold's there coolers in Tennessee (FYI they have videos online of there facility). Also you fail to realize some manufacturers may or may not insulate the lids, further dividing the models. Most China companies manufacture goods to customer specs and while they may look the same they can be drastically different in quality per customer specs. Also the chill before use applies to any cooler, if you put a bag of ice in a 90 deg cooler it's not going to last as long as a 40 deg cooler and that's the way all of these manufacturers substantiate there claims.
Like I said, "100% science"
Meh, I like her video better than yours.
Simp
Orca’s are made in Cuyahoga Falls Ohio, not Tennessee, Mr “Engineer”.
Just bought a tree line cooler… not at all discontinued
Nice video, Like your vibe and all the information you shared 👍😇
Why thank you!
I really loved your video, thank you.
Melted Ice water inside a cooler actually helps keep the rest of the ice around longer.
a fair point!
Interesting, lots of great information in this video ... Thank you
Thanks!!
If it goes above 200, it better has a frigging compressor to freeze water into ice in it..
I'm saying!
Rovr coolers are actually awesome though
So then I can assume the Lifetime brand at Walmart will perform pretty much the same, give or take a little!
I'd say so