They actually prepare vs certain other shows where it's all: LeBrick!! Lebrooaans got to show up! This team wants it more!! That team didn't get it done! Bla bla..
@@florabelleantonio8062 exactly! They can agree but state different facts in order to agree. And it’s just too funny when they don’t and it’s honest when they don’t agree.
Funny, Wiley is talking about about how CP3's numbers in the Finals have increased since the regular season. Not an excuse for sloppy play and losing or playing inferior to Devin Booker. CP3 is the vet. Steph Curry's numbers in the playoffs a Finals generally have increased as well. when the Warriors loose it usually falls on Curry. Why is CP3 getting a pass. Paul has a history of playoff failure. The King of the Flop is flopping in these Finals.
@Chris King he’s scored most of his points in the 2nd half his Entire career and all this post season he can play better I agree but he hasn’t disappeared and he’s not making the team lose outside of that Terrible game 4
@Chris King what excuses I make? I just gave you what he does and he’s averaging 21 and 9 as a 36 yr old short fat PG stop letting the media sway you and use your eyes it’s the game
Unfortunately the mistakes being made are at the most critical times when execution is a must… his numbers are only coming into question because they’re takin L’s..
Exactly. If he had these same exact numbers but the Suns were up in the series, there would be no slander and questions. Winning is the remedy to everything
@@telmolicious actually, I do!!! They try to get viewers and always need to be on other side. I can't stand Lebron either but Skip takes it to a whole nother level. It's ok though...I get it!
I'm really starting to like this show. They do a very good job of respecting each other but still have opposing arguments backed with stats and examples. I'm starting to love this Duo keep it up guys.
Watching this in HD on a 70 inch TV, these colors are POPPING!!! The colors on both suits are amazing! This has to be some kind of TV magic, no way these colors look this good in real life.
Bottom line is: CP is not playing desperate. He's playing like he's the young star and Devin Booker is playing desperate like he's the 36 year old and this could be his only and last finals
I think it's also good to point out that Chris doesn't need to take over the games that they lost in. Booker is obviously the guy who's shown to be willing and able to carry the load on offense. The problem here is that the Suns' schemes in general were too comfortable to rely on Booker iso plays. Where's the Ayton pick-and-roll? Where's Crowder's floor spacing as a stretch? Why don't you get Bridges open more? Why is CP3 on the bench more while Ayton is taking more minutes looking like a sitting duck on offense? Both Booker and CP3 played well above or at least equal their limits, but the Suns as a whole aren't playing to their strengths as a pass-heavy motion offense. There's a reason that the Bucks' 3-game winning streak has been brought about by an off-night for Booker resulting in a blowout, a sloppy turnover by Paul, and a double-team on Book. The offense turned predictable and undisciplined, and the Bucks took advantage of that.
Yeah they're overlooking the fact that he's 10 years older than half the players out there. Would be a different story if he was in his late 20s or even early 30s. He's got a lot of mileage on him, especially as a smaller player
Thank you! Not to mention he faced probably the worst matchup for his game or at least the second worst. The bucks are long and tall and for CP3 that is probably the most difficult matchup. The only matchup that might be more difficult is the Clippers healthy.
@@musicvideos4072 By that logic then all great players would win at the end of their careers and that's just not true. Time catches up with everyone and eventually youth beats experience. Doesn't matter how smart you are if the competition can run right past you and you can't keep up...
Very few sports commentators are actually intellectually interesting. This conversation highlights the conflict between the individual and the team (or the individual and the field). If the Bucks win this series, when Chris Paul is admitted to the basketball HOF, no one will particularly think of his performance (in these Finals) as bad, but rather, they'll remember how solid and gritty the Bucks were. Also, there's not that much more room for Paul to shine when Booker is handling the ball as much as he has the last two games. CP3 can play better and may not quite have elevated his game to the same degree as Giannis, Middleton, or of course, Booker, however, he's still giving a lot of effort for a dude who is at the end of his career, likely more than a bit banged up, and facing some really tenacious defense.
Both can be true. Bucks are bigger and stronger. Phx has to shoot lights out to beat em cause they arent gonna beat em in the paint. But, cp3 isnt helpin them with his sloppy play either and slowing down the offense’s tempo which makes it easy for the bucks defense to settle in.
@@kant5696 devin Brooker cost the suns the games with dat turnovers, to be honest it's the turnovers that killed them then the bucks , difference is buck ain't turning the ball over when it matters
@@kingcali6507 thats true turnovers are killing em. And yeah booker did make that turn over but he was the reason they still had a chance. He was makin all the big shots esp that 3 pointer that cut the lead to one late in the fourth. Plus paul did that stupid unnecessary foul on that ally oop to GA.
I just love the discourse between these two, so much better better than 90% of whatever is on ESPN. Even though I don’t always agree with all their takes, it’s entertaining & informative to listen to the way they break things down & debate. Kudos 🤙🏽.
Dam really CP3 leading the series in turnovers when two of these games came down to the last few seconds. Maybe just maybe those turnovers lost the Suns game 4 and 5 maybe. Nobody really expects him to score 30 every night we just expect him not to be leading the series in turnovers.
Come on Wiley! I really like Speak for Yourself because the takes are normally unbiased but since the Clippers and now Suns I can see how biased your takes can be… and that’s why I like Acho’s most of the time cause at least he most of the time take his choices based on analytics - and how Acho word his takes, so poetic!!!
Wiley ALWAYS goes left! He has 2 arguments...and it depends on what Acho chooses, will be the one he chooses to debate. 50% of Wiley's takes are just lies. He don't even be believing his takes. His motto is to sound poetic regardless. Acho gets this one easily!
Hello Acho, Chris Paul increased his points per game from 16 in regular season to 22 in finals. Field goal percentage 52% to 3 pts. Fig % 37 % to 55% in finals He was down in free throw percentage from the regular season to the finals. We did see a better version of Chris Paul in the finals. 37% to 52%
Love the debate style! First time I've seen your show and I enjoyed the discussion rather than the 'I need to win this argument' style a lot of other shows (and people) have. "Doing better than the regular season" versus "I need everything you have" is two great points. As a dad I understand Wiley and he's right, but series stats don't matter as much as he wants them to. As an athlete who has an ego I agree with Acho. This is the NBA Finals! No time for "you gave your best" or "your stats are good". I need everything you have, POSSESSION BY POSSESSION because another Finals is not guaranteed. I'm not dealing with sleepless nights and what ifs. CP3 was favoured to win the Finals MVP at the start of the series, PLAY LIKE IT! He's 5th best on the court at best (Giannis, Booker, Middleton and Holiday are far better starters. The order of these 4 doesn't bother me. Even Connaughton is pushing as a 5th best with his hustle and shot making). Missing open shots and low percentage passes (from mid air, no look, being driven out of bounds etc) causing turnovers is not it. He has given the Bucks 18 extra possessions by himself. I haven't watched much of CP3 and this series has me confused why they call him "Point God". With a name like that I'd expect better decisions.
Good job guys! For me CP3 has the wrong game plan for this series. My recommendation to CP3 would be to be less focused on scoring on 30 points and be more focused on using all of his available weapons. Its unbelievable to me on why he is not maximizing the young gifted talents of Cam Johnson!! Cam Johnson can play.. Definitely should be getting more touches and opportunities to score. Just an opinion.
But stats show that jrue ain't bothering Paul it's the teams defense that's bothering Paul, bucks got 4 elite defensive players that take turns on Paul n booker , booker needs to play smarter
@@weightpushweight5769 ima second that & say it's really sad that he's corrupted a potential super star w that approach & performance going forward with his career.. as long as book plays, he's going to be looking to get foul calls before earned buckets!!
I feel like many people on the nba media aren’t comfortable with European players coming in and playing great in the league. Acho nailed it and Wiley has to accept the European players are getting more and more importance in the league, Giannis, Luka, Jolie, winning MVPs and now possibly titles. NBA media has been biased against these European players, Stephen A Smith for example. I feel Wiley is not bias but he has been looking because CP3 clearly has been playing mediocre except for one game that is keeping his average per game high
I'm one of them. Thanks to his reputation and the fanboy LeBron James loving sports media crowning him in the company of Magic Johnson, Oscar Robertson, Dwayne Wade, and Jason Kidd is an insult. He's LeBron James' besty so we better show CP3 some love. Not to mention John Stockton, Steve Nash. The I believe he is cursed because of it or it's karma. The dirty play (constant flopping and dirty hits) and antics (driving to an arena to kick Steph Curry off of a court). The flopping has continues to plague him come money time with injury. Isn't flopping fraud? He sells insurance. Why is that? The last person I would want representing my insurance company is someone who demonstrates deception and fraud.
All of a sudden the goal post moved so low when they ain't talking about Steph Curry. CP2-0 didn't get half of the defensive attention Curry did. Put Curry in the Suns, they would've swept Bucks already.
They’re missing the issue, CP3 struggled at the end of games in the finals, bc they shouldn’t have had a 37 yr old playing the most minutes of any player in the series, esp when Cam P. can come in. 2nd CP3 was the best Suns player in game 6 by far & Book couldn’t do anything. The team wasn’t clicking.
The video says is CP3 a disappointment in the finals and all Marcellus talks about is stuff CP3 did in the previous 3 series. It doesn't matter if you average out his stats from the last 3 series, all that matters is Tuesday night.
What a lot of people don’t understand is that a debate doesn’t imply that they actually believe in what they are saying. It’s okay to make an argument for something that you don’t actually have faith in.
Paul is giving all he has. He hasn't shot badly. He had a few turnovers, costly... but he has played well. He playing against a bigger, stronger and younger guards. The defense of his opponent isn't getting enough credit.
Idk if Wiley believes what he's saying or if he's just saying that cuz they need to take sides. Anyone with eyes can see CP3 fell off pretty hard after the first 2 games
Emmanuel nailed it write on the head. Marcellus has a BS philosophy that he mention that did not make any since and as if he's trying to cover up for CP3 horrible finals performance.
Truth is CP3 is to blame for loosing 4 straight. Whenever Booker got hot and CP should've been feeding booker, he didn't. CP3 was out there dribbling the ball and shooting the ball to much. My opinion is CP3 did not want booker to out shine him and avoided passing the ball to booker alot. CP3 wanted to be the star and the fact is he should've played his role and be a game manager. If CP would've just played point guard and let booker be the shooting gaurd they would've won. But cp3 was hogging the ball, only passing the ball when he was stuck. He tried to out play booker his own teamate. This is why suns list this series. Smh
Nothing or no one has been more disappointing than Phoenix's defense. They're allowing 119 PPG. They can't get enough stops, and they're giving up 2nd opportunities by giving up offensive rebounds.
Everyone is getting better stats because the teams play less rotation, duh. CP3 had a couple of Bad games, but he has taken the team to the finals, and I feel he is playing great tonight
After the Milwaukee Bucks win the NBA 2021 Championship tomorrow... I wager the morning after Sports Media "could've, would've, should've" analysis will more than likely lament how disappointing Chris Paul subpar performance was than giving any credit to how the Bucks outplayed the Suns
Both sides of this debate make sense but I have 1 question: what ever happened to "that guy/team WON" instead of "that guy/team LOST"???? See at some point losses aren't always about losing because of yourself as much as losing because the other guy was better...give credit where it's due...Gannis went off with 40 & 50 point games this series...why say C. Paul didn't do enough instead of saying Gannis was a man possessed!!!?? A point guards assists are based on someone else finishing but a big mans rebounds are based mainly on his own effort...a point guards job is to manage the ENTIRE floor but the scorer's job is to manage himself putting the ball in the hoop...at some point ppl need to focus on how good Gannis was rather than how poorly others were...jmt
He’s right Chris was playing like it’s a regular early season game and not fighting for their survival on the nba finals. Almost like if he thought was destiny after all these years and didn’t have to try
Everyone jumping on the suns for facing unhealthy teams but no ones gonna acknowledge that the bucks wouldn’t have past the nets if Irving or harden doesn’t get hurt?
I think everybody understands the bucks caught a break too, but remember Giannis was hurt too in the ECF but I think the bucks would have had a better chance getting to the finals even if Brooklyn wasn't hurt compared to the Sun's making it, and I think that's where the discrepancy lies.
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These guys got mad takes!! Love this show👌🏾
Acho nailed it..
As he alaays does🔥😤
He sure did
Not @ all.
The suit or the take? Both for me😂
Acho has CTE if he really believes this
This show plays both sides better than anybody even when they agree.
They actually prepare vs certain other shows where it's all: LeBrick!! Lebrooaans got to show up! This team wants it more!! That team didn't get it done! Bla bla..
This is the only show i watch.. its unbiased! They take side for the sake of the conversation but are willing to compromise!
@@florabelleantonio8062 exactly! They can agree but state different facts in order to agree. And it’s just too funny when they don’t and it’s honest when they don’t agree.
I so agree 🎯 perfect cohost like Batman and robin
All NBA analysts should learn a thing or two from Acho...He makes sense 99.999% of the time.
I would love to see him and Shannon go at it lol
100%. This conversation so much more intelligent than everything else you watch
Facts
Great show right here!
CP's been the best player for the Bucks the last 3 games
Jae Crowder has played poorly too
Lol. . Lol. . Good comment
Giannis has clowned Ayton. Don’t let him off the hook
underrated comment
@@lyndonchastain3181 that’s not what the numbers say
C'mon Wiley a blind man could see cp3 is playing sloppy
He isn’t a good Basketball analyst, he’s entertaining but is horrible at analyzing Bball IMO but who am I just a fat guy on RUclips.
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One horrible game and now he’s been terrible for the entire series lmao
@@trvspvrk he didn't play good until one quarter of the last game so idk man
Funny, Wiley is talking about about how CP3's numbers in the Finals have increased since the regular season. Not an excuse for sloppy play and losing or playing inferior to Devin Booker. CP3 is the vet. Steph Curry's numbers in the playoffs a Finals generally have increased as well. when the Warriors loose it usually falls on Curry. Why is CP3 getting a pass. Paul has a history of playoff failure. The King of the Flop is flopping in these Finals.
Man people quick to change after Phoenix won the first two games 😂😂
@Chris King 19 game 3 50% shooting with his best player on the bench the second half 21-11 last game 13 in the 4th last game but ok
@Chris King he’s scored most of his points in the 2nd half his Entire career and all this post season he can play better I agree but he hasn’t disappeared and he’s not making the team lose outside of that Terrible game 4
@Chris King what excuses I make? I just gave you what he does and he’s averaging 21 and 9 as a 36 yr old short fat PG stop letting the media sway you and use your eyes it’s the game
Yep! And they will change again if the suns win game 6. They so much prisoners of the moment
All of em!!
Best show on FS1 hands down
Undisputed had the nerve to talk about trash movie for 20 minutes
you're demented
Unfortunately the mistakes being made are at the most critical times when execution is a must… his numbers are only coming into question because they’re takin L’s..
Exactly. If he had these same exact numbers but the Suns were up in the series, there would be no slander and questions. Winning is the remedy to everything
Devin Booker had 3 turnovers in the 2nd half
@@trvspvrk sounds about right
Wiley has been in deep denial the last three games, saying to himself that everything’s fine, even though he knows it’s not
Wiley is rooting for CP3 because he was a Clipper...plain & simple!
@@anthonyzarate9807 U guys don't understand how these debate shows work ha? 😅
@@telmolicious actually, I do!!! They try to get viewers and always need to be on other side. I can't stand Lebron either but Skip takes it to a whole nother level.
It's ok though...I get it!
@@anthonyzarate9807 Lebron is A Black leader.. a lot of whites hate that, get in line
@@dasun13 Actually he is the whitest of them all!!!
I don't want to see him win it.
I was rooting for suns but after watching cp3 fall apart. He doesn't deserve it.
Same
Lol. That's keepin it real real.
Yeah too much flop and prefer Giannis personality
Same. Dirty player. Rude.
Chris Paul is the greatest choker of all time, that's his legacy.
Don't start
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Yeah I agree about James harden
Top 3 choker. Harden may overtake him soon though.
Great debate, you two guys both make valid points, reason I think this is the best sports talk show.
All those years playing with Doc Rivers is probably what is going on with CP3. It's almost like he is now Doc Rivers disguised as a player.
I like this comment.
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Agreed an overrated coach and player
Probably the Best Sports Talk Show right now in USA. They play off each other perfectly. Good Job Guys...
I'm really starting to like this show. They do a very good job of respecting each other but still have opposing arguments backed with stats and examples. I'm starting to love this Duo keep it up guys.
On a side note, Marcellus Wiley appears to be the only sport tv personality in America to know that the hankie in the pocket MUST NOT match the tie.
Wiley knows that leaders step up in the finals. I am almost certain Wiley would want Paul to get the kudos if they were winning.
Acho OWNS Wiley on a daily basis! lol
I would have to disagree. Acho presents his arguments beautifully though. But he definitely does not own Wiley on a daily basis.
Also Wiley chooses the arguments that are not popular. It’s like Skip choosing to troll. These guys are great at debating though.
All them stats don’t overshadow his huge game mistakes and his impact in this series being trash
Point God my a** 🤣🤣
Watching this in HD on a 70 inch TV, these colors are POPPING!!! The colors on both suits are amazing!
This has to be some kind of TV magic, no way these colors look this good in real life.
Incredibly entertaining and informative fellas ✊🏿!!!
Bottom line is: CP is not playing desperate. He's playing like he's the young star and Devin Booker is playing desperate like he's the 36 year old and this could be his only and last finals
those 10 points Book put up in game 3 says otherwise
exactly
I think it's also good to point out that Chris doesn't need to take over the games that they lost in. Booker is obviously the guy who's shown to be willing and able to carry the load on offense.
The problem here is that the Suns' schemes in general were too comfortable to rely on Booker iso plays. Where's the Ayton pick-and-roll? Where's Crowder's floor spacing as a stretch? Why don't you get Bridges open more? Why is CP3 on the bench more while Ayton is taking more minutes looking like a sitting duck on offense?
Both Booker and CP3 played well above or at least equal their limits, but the Suns as a whole aren't playing to their strengths as a pass-heavy motion offense. There's a reason that the Bucks' 3-game winning streak has been brought about by an off-night for Booker resulting in a blowout, a sloppy turnover by Paul, and a double-team on Book. The offense turned predictable and undisciplined, and the Bucks took advantage of that.
What do you expect from a 36 y/o, 6' point guard playing a young man's game. Youth must be served.
Speak on it!.. this is a young man's game
Yeah they're overlooking the fact that he's 10 years older than half the players out there. Would be a different story if he was in his late 20s or even early 30s. He's got a lot of mileage on him, especially as a smaller player
Thank you! Not to mention he faced probably the worst matchup for his game or at least the second worst. The bucks are long and tall and for CP3 that is probably the most difficult matchup. The only matchup that might be more difficult is the Clippers healthy.
Thats why your experience should guide you when up against the young ones
@@musicvideos4072 By that logic then all great players would win at the end of their careers and that's just not true. Time catches up with everyone and eventually youth beats experience. Doesn't matter how smart you are if the competition can run right past you and you can't keep up...
Very few sports commentators are actually intellectually interesting. This conversation highlights the conflict between the individual and the team (or the individual and the field). If the Bucks win this series, when Chris Paul is admitted to the basketball HOF, no one will particularly think of his performance (in these Finals) as bad, but rather, they'll remember how solid and gritty the Bucks were. Also, there's not that much more room for Paul to shine when Booker is handling the ball as much as he has the last two games. CP3 can play better and may not quite have elevated his game to the same degree as Giannis, Middleton, or of course, Booker, however, he's still giving a lot of effort for a dude who is at the end of his career, likely more than a bit banged up, and facing some really tenacious defense.
Can we just create a infinite LIKE category, Lol.
Stop making CP3 the reason the suns lost ...the Bucks is just the better team..Facts....Give the Bucks there credit and stop the hating
As a Bucks fan your right man…
Both can be true. Bucks are bigger and stronger. Phx has to shoot lights out to beat em cause they arent gonna beat em in the paint. But, cp3 isnt helpin them with his sloppy play either and slowing down the offense’s tempo which makes it easy for the bucks defense to settle in.
@@kant5696 devin Brooker cost the suns the games with dat turnovers, to be honest it's the turnovers that killed them then the bucks , difference is buck ain't turning the ball over when it matters
@@kingcali6507 thats true turnovers are killing em. And yeah booker did make that turn over but he was the reason they still had a chance. He was makin all the big shots esp that 3 pointer that cut the lead to one late in the fourth. Plus paul did that stupid unnecessary foul on that ally oop to GA.
I just love the discourse between these two, so much better better than 90% of whatever is on ESPN. Even though I don’t always agree with all their takes, it’s entertaining & informative to listen to the way they break things down & debate. Kudos 🤙🏽.
I soo agree, it's like a breath of fresh air after listening to all those other sport debate shows
Forsureeeee @@mecca3000. Glad I stumbled over here 😅.
What CP3 did was not new, he has a history of not being able to get it done.
Dam really CP3 leading the series in turnovers when two of these games came down to the last few seconds. Maybe just maybe those turnovers lost the Suns game 4 and 5 maybe. Nobody really expects him to score 30 every night we just expect him not to be leading the series in turnovers.
Come on Wiley! I really like Speak for Yourself because the takes are normally unbiased but since the Clippers and now Suns I can see how biased your takes can be… and that’s why I like Acho’s most of the time cause at least he most of the time take his choices based on analytics - and how Acho word his takes, so poetic!!!
Jrue holiday who's 1st team all-defense on chris paul is very bad for chris paul
CP3 saboteur extraordinaire. Been saying this for 5 years now
Overall, Chris Paul's legacy still looks favorable. To me, that's the best direction to look in at this time.
Wiley's arguments versus Acho's are so weak!
Always.
Wiley ALWAYS goes left! He has 2 arguments...and it depends on what Acho chooses, will be the one he chooses to debate. 50% of Wiley's takes are just lies. He don't even be believing his takes. His motto is to sound poetic regardless. Acho gets this one easily!
Hello Acho,
Chris Paul increased his points per game from 16 in regular season to 22 in finals.
Field goal percentage 52% to 3 pts. Fig % 37 % to 55% in finals
He was down in free throw percentage from the regular season to the finals.
We did see a better version of Chris Paul in the finals.
37% to 52%
Chris Paul is being Chris paul. him being dirty af trying to foul Giannis mid air during that last dunk in game 5 is exactly Chris's legacy
These 2 are the SMARTEST basketball analysts in all TV/RUclips/Social/ESPN By far.
& they come from Football backgrounds!! Stellar!! Love these guys
CP3 fades every year in the playoffs. He’s never finished stronger than he’s started.
This is different and I like it, both arguing their points in a level headed and objective stance. Rare to see.
Love the debate style! First time I've seen your show and I enjoyed the discussion rather than the 'I need to win this argument' style a lot of other shows (and people) have. "Doing better than the regular season" versus "I need everything you have" is two great points. As a dad I understand Wiley and he's right, but series stats don't matter as much as he wants them to. As an athlete who has an ego I agree with Acho. This is the NBA Finals! No time for "you gave your best" or "your stats are good". I need everything you have, POSSESSION BY POSSESSION because another Finals is not guaranteed. I'm not dealing with sleepless nights and what ifs. CP3 was favoured to win the Finals MVP at the start of the series, PLAY LIKE IT! He's 5th best on the court at best (Giannis, Booker, Middleton and Holiday are far better starters. The order of these 4 doesn't bother me. Even Connaughton is pushing as a 5th best with his hustle and shot making). Missing open shots and low percentage passes (from mid air, no look, being driven out of bounds etc) causing turnovers is not it. He has given the Bucks 18 extra possessions by himself. I haven't watched much of CP3 and this series has me confused why they call him "Point God". With a name like that I'd expect better decisions.
Bucks FINALLY realized after CP3 and Book, no one else on the team scares u because they all inexperienced
This show is fire 🔥🔥🔥
So entertaining!
I talk about they’re analyses all the time but also got to say, Acho’s outfits always fire
This is who he is though if he gets anything over 15 that’s a great game for him so this is the best of his career
you guys are excellent. keep up the quality
Acho dropped jewels with his take 🔥
Good job guys! For me CP3 has the wrong game plan for this series. My recommendation to CP3 would be to be less focused on scoring on 30 points and be more focused on using all of his available weapons. Its unbelievable to me on why he is not maximizing the young gifted talents of Cam Johnson!! Cam Johnson can play.. Definitely should be getting more touches and opportunities to score. Just an opinion.
Thats a coaching Monty Williams issue, not Chris Paul’s fault. The other players needed to be more involved.
This is poetry and sports combined.
CP3 is 36,not 26 and he's been worn down by bigger,stronger defenders on him.Not a huge disappointment,but it's just facts and stats.
But stats show that jrue ain't bothering Paul it's the teams defense that's bothering Paul, bucks got 4 elite defensive players that take turns on Paul n booker , booker needs to play smarter
Book played like a Vet. Paul played like a Rook.~bars~
Jrue Holliday has more assist, steals, rebound and is better in turnover assit/ratio than CP3 , and don't let me start on the defensivo side.
You already started on the defensive side with steals and rebounds🤔🤔
Who would want a floper team win?
Yeah. Looks at Jae Crowder.
@HOZO The whole team flops bro you are correct. CP and Crowder are masterminds, then Booker started as well.
@@weightpushweight5769 ima second that & say it's really sad that he's corrupted a potential super star w that approach & performance going forward with his career.. as long as book plays, he's going to be looking to get foul calls before earned buckets!!
I guess this wasn't the Denver Nuggets, which he destroyed with that one and only play.
I don’t even think he’s choking, he is averaging 20 points a night which is what has averaged his whole career, so he’s just playing to his average
It's not even that he's playing average. He's justsking many dumb mistakes.
It's his turnovers though
Fr, he has one trick in his bag lol
"Are you better than how much better than the Bucks are getting better." Well said EA
I feel like many people on the nba media aren’t comfortable with European players coming in and playing great in the league. Acho nailed it and Wiley has to accept the European players are getting more and more importance in the league, Giannis, Luka, Jolie, winning MVPs and now possibly titles. NBA media has been biased against these European players, Stephen A Smith for example. I feel Wiley is not bias but he has been looking because CP3 clearly has been playing mediocre except for one game that is keeping his average per game high
Many people don't want Chris Paul to win. He's a flopper and a dirty player.
I'm one of them. Thanks to his reputation and the fanboy LeBron James loving sports media crowning him in the company of Magic Johnson, Oscar Robertson, Dwayne Wade, and Jason Kidd is an insult. He's LeBron James' besty so we better show CP3 some love. Not to mention John Stockton, Steve Nash. The I believe he is cursed because of it or it's karma. The dirty play (constant flopping and dirty hits) and antics (driving to an arena to kick Steph Curry off of a court). The flopping has continues to plague him come money time with injury. Isn't flopping fraud? He sells insurance. Why is that? The last person I would want representing my insurance company is someone who demonstrates deception and fraud.
Count me in.
All of a sudden the goal post moved so low when they ain't talking about Steph Curry.
CP2-0 didn't get half of the defensive attention Curry did.
Put Curry in the Suns, they would've swept Bucks already.
Great point here...
True story.
They’re missing the issue, CP3 struggled at the end of games in the finals, bc they shouldn’t have had a 37 yr old playing the most minutes of any player in the series, esp when Cam P. can come in. 2nd CP3 was the best Suns player in game 6 by far & Book couldn’t do anything. The team wasn’t clicking.
Anyone who has actually watched this finals, know Chris Paul hasn’t been playing like cp3
The video says is CP3 a disappointment in the finals and all Marcellus talks about is stuff CP3 did in the previous 3 series. It doesn't matter if you average out his stats from the last 3 series, all that matters is Tuesday night.
💯💯 They are still trying to give excuses for CP3
What a lot of people don’t understand is that a debate doesn’t imply that they actually believe in what they are saying. It’s okay to make an argument for something that you don’t actually have faith in.
Paul is giving all he has. He hasn't shot badly. He had a few turnovers, costly... but he has played well.
He playing against a bigger, stronger and younger guards.
The defense of his opponent isn't getting enough credit.
Stop making excuses for Chris Paul he needs to step up! He scored 41 in a close-out game so I don’t wanna hear no excuses, Get the job Done!!
how is this show still on air...
Stage is too big
Yo Acho you one of the best I’ve ever heard !!!!
10:38 why am i not surprised just 3 days ago acho said that tom brady was lying about his injury and here he believes lebron's hand injury story, lol.
lmaoo i know so bogus
Idk if Wiley believes what he's saying or if he's just saying that cuz they need to take sides. Anyone with eyes can see CP3 fell off pretty hard after the first 2 games
when the Warriors won the MPV was Iguodala nobody said anything about Steph not being the best player in that finals, then it was KD after that
CP3 in these finals (per game): 21 points, 8.8 assists, 2.8 rebounds on 54.3% shooting (52.4% from 3)
Cell....Acho...nice work! Impressive arguments
These guys are good
'Let's talk about that lets talk about that" 🤣🤣😂📍🔥
CP3 just getting his instant karma for his Maria Taylor shade
Him and Booker always flooping and complaining instead of playing. Sucks to play a healthy team i see😭
Marcellus always in his feelings when holding players accountable.
Emmanuel nailed it write on the head. Marcellus has a BS philosophy that he mention that did not make any since and as if he's trying to cover up for CP3 horrible finals performance.
Truth is CP3 is to blame for loosing 4 straight. Whenever Booker got hot and CP should've been feeding booker, he didn't. CP3 was out there dribbling the ball and shooting the ball to much. My opinion is CP3 did not want booker to out shine him and avoided passing the ball to booker alot. CP3 wanted to be the star and the fact is he should've played his role and be a game manager. If CP would've just played point guard and let booker be the shooting gaurd they would've won. But cp3 was hogging the ball, only passing the ball when he was stuck. He tried to out play booker his own teamate. This is why suns list this series. Smh
Nothing or no one has been more disappointing than Phoenix's defense. They're allowing 119 PPG. They can't get enough stops, and they're giving up 2nd opportunities by giving up offensive rebounds.
Chris Paul is failing to take advantage of the moment. He has overlooked how hard it was to get to the finals for him.
Jrue Holiday is making CP3 play ugly. He's an elite defender who stands 6" over CP. Tuesday night he has a chance to rewrite his wrongs
Holiday is barely 4 inches above Cp don't lie or exaggerate in order to prove a point
I agree 100% with Acho
Acho always nailed it
Everyone is getting better stats because the teams play less rotation, duh. CP3 had a couple of Bad games, but he has taken the team to the finals, and I feel he is playing great tonight
He has had two major turnovers in the last 20 sec in the last two games in the finals,come on man
I gotta go with acho on this one
After the Milwaukee Bucks win the NBA 2021 Championship tomorrow...
I wager the morning after Sports Media "could've, would've, should've" analysis will more than likely lament how disappointing Chris Paul subpar performance was than giving any credit to how the Bucks outplayed the Suns
Both sides of this debate make sense but I have 1 question: what ever happened to "that guy/team WON" instead of "that guy/team LOST"???? See at some point losses aren't always about losing because of yourself as much as losing because the other guy was better...give credit where it's due...Gannis went off with 40 & 50 point games this series...why say C. Paul didn't do enough instead of saying Gannis was a man possessed!!!?? A point guards assists are based on someone else finishing but a big mans rebounds are based mainly on his own effort...a point guards job is to manage the ENTIRE floor but the scorer's job is to manage himself putting the ball in the hoop...at some point ppl need to focus on how good Gannis was rather than how poorly others were...jmt
Watched this 3 times my family won't shut up lo
He’s right Chris was playing like it’s a regular early season game and not fighting for their survival on the nba finals. Almost like if he thought was destiny after all these years and didn’t have to try
art of discussion
Gotta go wit Acho on this suns played better when CP3 wasn’t in the game
Giannis is the real deal. Everything Lebrun crafted his image to be only all natural.
Wiley's denial is deeeeep. CP3 is mucking this whole thing up.
Acho that suit 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Everyone jumping on the suns for facing unhealthy teams but no ones gonna acknowledge that the bucks wouldn’t have past the nets if Irving or harden doesn’t get hurt?
I think everybody understands the bucks caught a break too, but remember Giannis was hurt too in the ECF but I think the bucks would have had a better chance getting to the finals even if Brooklyn wasn't hurt compared to the Sun's making it, and I think that's where the discrepancy lies.