Just a quick note - "positive" and "negative" are confusing to students (and practitioners) just because of the reason alluded to in the video - positive often implies beneficial, and negative the opposite, but it really describes the direction the response has to the disturbance. I've been using "reinforcing" and "balancing" (respectively) - seems to work better.
The whole video is awesome, but the creative illustrations and the metaphors deserve special praise! Moreover humans have become the most influential and the most powerful creators of music. Only time will tell if that brings more positivity or negativity to the universe.
I found out addictions are just that, a positive feedback loop. Pleasure feeds back the system, so you do more of the same action that got you pleasure, until you realize you're screwing yourself.
I wish we would teach about feed back loops in K-12 education. It is a very important mathematical concept that really lies at the heart of just about everything, from Economics to Biology.
+Jonas Gustafsson Like any medium for presenting information, the only value it holds is in the information it presents and how well that information is articulated. The medium itself is irrelevant if the only goal is to present information. Now, one can argue (and it is safe to say many would agree) that certain media is better than others at instilling strong feelings (ex. a game can be better than a movie at self-reflection since it is the player doing the action), but this is not always the case. In other words, a cartoon is just a cartoon. It is used (arguably) well to teach here. Any other meaning one attaches to this is based on cultural norms. (One of this being, for example, that in many western nations, it is common to say cartoons are mindless.) It is a fallacy to denounce the potential for learning simply by judging the medium in which it is presented. ^u^
Jonas Gustafsson Indeed I can be. It just has to be a party where people are willing to think about things. It must be a party where people do not take things and assume they are right and acknowledge that what we know is simply a stepping stone to knowing more. ^_^
@@ellarose8553 hi. Thank you. Yeah, I figured it out not long after I asked. I'm not even really sure why i asked lol. I should have known that I wouldn't get an answer anytime soon after I asked, if at all.
Great video. I think this is how the wave function collapses in physics. You start with a probability wave which is made up of e.g. a photon in a variety of different possible places e.g 30% likely to be here, 30% likely to be there 30% likely to be over there etc & then you measure where the particle is which SOMEHOW (noone knows how) 'collapses' the wave function so that the photon's location is 100% likely to be in 1 place. I think there's feedback between the measurement & the wave that rapidly amplifies the probability
Someone who's good both at music and ecology should one day investigate feedback loops in different ecosystems and make interpretations of them as pieces of music. That would be very cool.
Great video! Though I'm wondering if anyone else noticed they pronounce "humus" (Hue-mus) like "hummus" (Hum-mus), which is a Greek dip made of chickpeas. I love the harmony metaphor to illustrate the concept of complexity.
When things go sideways…. We have to find pathways toward better correction and positive feedback loops. I’ve been telling my kids since they were little… “what’s the most important thing about falling down?”. They call back, “get back up”. They are the teenagers now, so I don’t get the same calm back… :). The concept of human centric positive feedback loops is decent. The iron sharpens iron concept with health, climate and tools can help. #LoveEVICTShate
The nature is teemed with example of positive and negative feedback. The nature don't need a central planner, different variables control each other like a musical harmony. Our bodily functions also are controlled by feedback system. ex., hormone, neural communication, and many many...
I became so sad when the flute playing panda went out of the frame, I was just waiting for it to come back, but then the real horror struck that this is where we ACTUALLY are headed to
This is what I've been trying to tell people for 2 years on my channel. There's a feedback loop that governs a certain social dynamic in our country. Let's just say there's a "group A" that feels oppressed, and treated unfairly. Due to this feeling, they behave in certain ways. It completely shapes their culture (in negative ways). Due to how this culture is perceived by a certain other group, this other group, "group B" _does_ treat group A in exactly the way group A expected: unfairly. This is a feedback that group A doesn't see. You think you're treated a certain way, and YOU ARE, but you don't realize it's your own behavior that creates this feedback loop. Think of it this way. If there were never reports of pitbull attacks, would anyone have certain stereotypical views of pitbulls in general? Where do you think those views came from? Out of thin air? I don't know what else I can say. I'm ready to pull my hair out. I've been trying to teach these concepts for about two years, and I have NO AUDIENCE. No one ever shares my videos, no one ever gives me a chance. You know what they call this? THE CASSANDRA COMPLEX.
The negative is the moisture from the ice creating more clouds, allowing less heat in. The positive is when heat escapes from frozen ice and heats up the earth even more
Well, considering great musicians can use feedback to their advantage to be part of the music, it’s not necessarily an obstacle. But I get what he was trying to say.
So... like the Light and Dark side of The Force, Equilibrium or like in real nature and physics Super Symmetry of Forces of Nature (matter and anti-matter)?
Hello and thank you for this quality work. Is it possible to use this video in classroom with my students (partly or in full)? What about copyright? Thank you. #french biology teacher
As far as I’m concerned, you don’t need to ask for this type of stuff. You are allowed to show your students. It’s a different story if you use their video in a video that you make.
I keep finding mispronunciation in these vids. Recently it was "a dice" not "a die". In this one, He says "Hummus", which is a chickpea derived food from the middle-east/mediterranean. Humus, is pronounced "Hyoo-mus" or "Hoo-mus", depending on who you ask. Somebody get the narrators a coach or something.
Octopi would be really good percussionists if they knew what they were doing and could live out of water for long enough. Same with spiders, except they are land animals and are way too small and unintelligent. The flower playing guitar looks like Leslie from The Amazing World of Gumball. The scorpion holding a triangle is pretty accurate. Flute Panda should be a meme. Yes, I’m a musician, in case you couldn’t tell.
if there is not an intelligent designer behind all this, then i think me and my friends should just keep beating at some instruments until we make a hit album its bound to happen by chance right? hum but then even then i guess since we are intelligent that it still means that it came about by intelligent design.
We have created software that can predicted with about 80% accuracy whether or not a song will be in the top 40 based on patterns, that and we've created software that can create pop songs based on a simple set of rules and randomized input. So software can generate a hit off of just random input. The point in feed back loops allow complex system to spontaneously generate based on very simple rules, and feedback. Look up Logistic map, the game of Life (chaos theory not the board game), or really any subject in chaos theory. Chaos theory that very very complex systems can and do arise with out the need of any designer.
dude we made the software and we gave it rules to follow to make sound, that sounds like an intelligent designer you actually made me even more convinced that there must be an intelligent being out there
You seem to misunderstand my point. We might have identified the rules that make pop music popular , but those rules spontaneously arose through a series of cultural and economic feedback loops. Further my other examples have 0 need for a designer. Chaos theory proves complexity can arise from spontaneously with out any need of a designer. The Watch maker argument is incorrect.
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I enjoyed the animations of the animals playing more than I should have.
Dancing flower reminded me of little dancing Groot from Guardians of the Galaxy
Arinoth There was a toy that was a dancing flower....back in the 80's or 90's. It was like a dancing santa, just with a sunflower or daisy.
reddir I'm thinking of the one that was solar powered and swayed back and forth
OML SAME
Federico Rivera are you on the marijuana
Just a quick note - "positive" and "negative" are confusing to students (and practitioners) just because of the reason alluded to in the video - positive often implies beneficial, and negative the opposite, but it really describes the direction the response has to the disturbance. I've been using "reinforcing" and "balancing" (respectively) - seems to work better.
Truee. That's what I tought before
It's mentioned in the video: "Amplifying". Everyone can understand that amplifying is not always positive.
there should be a game like this maintaining an ecosystem
Our teacher gave us a project to do that... but we gotta create everything
You can call it gardening.
It's called Minecraft
@@preetikumar1900 diy humans?
The whole video is awesome, but the creative illustrations and the metaphors deserve special praise!
Moreover humans have become the most influential and the most powerful creators of music. Only time will tell if that brings more positivity or negativity to the universe.
That was a wonderful presentation that introduced a concept I had never before considered. Thank you.
One of my most favourite explainer videos.
Unpopular opinion:
The rainforest had the best music
I found out addictions are just that, a positive feedback loop.
Pleasure feeds back the system, so you do more of the same action that got you pleasure, until you realize you're screwing yourself.
Interesting, but when the animals started jammin' I really didn't listen to the explanation anymore. :P
SAMEEEEE
You did, just on a different level. Cant escape the loops in music.
Vibing to the animal jam
Rattlesnake playing shaker and scorpion with the triangle was just GENIUS!!
Seems graphics are TOO interesting hehe
I love how they transform different environment into different music
I wish we would teach about feed back loops in K-12 education. It is a very important mathematical concept that really lies at the heart of just about everything, from Economics to Biology.
This is a fantastic video - mainly the illustrations of symphonies in different ecoystems.
Ted is getting creative more than ever
19 dislikes?! But there was a cheetah playing the piano!
+Thomas Hardy haha true dat
+Thomas Hardy Had to have been the spider playing the drums.
+Thomas Hardy Ive never heard of a Cheetah in the jungle,lol !
well yeah, but if the cheetah was in the savannah it would be awfully difficult to hear the piano.
Its a leopard.
All i wanted was to see those animals play their instruments, and you gave it to me!
I like to feel intelligent while watching cartoons.
Me too.
+Jonas Gustafsson Like any medium for presenting information, the only value it holds is in the information it presents and how well that information is articulated. The medium itself is irrelevant if the only goal is to present information. Now, one can argue (and it is safe to say many would agree) that certain media is better than others at instilling strong feelings (ex. a game can be better than a movie at self-reflection since it is the player doing the action), but this is not always the case.
In other words, a cartoon is just a cartoon. It is used (arguably) well to teach here. Any other meaning one attaches to this is based on cultural norms. (One of this being, for example, that in many western nations, it is common to say cartoons are mindless.) It is a fallacy to denounce the potential for learning simply by judging the medium in which it is presented. ^u^
+tygonmaster I bet you're fun at parties.
Jonas Gustafsson
Indeed I can be. It just has to be a party where people are willing to think about things. It must be a party where people do not take things and assume they are right and acknowledge that what we know is simply a stepping stone to knowing more. ^_^
Good luck with that.
these metaphors are absolutely insane, fire vid, thoroughly enjoyed
I would've enjoyed hearing a bit about feedback loops in physiology and development too.
"Everything is connected."
- Cloud Atlas
It's pronounced hue-mous. Hummus is made from chickpeas.
Either of them sound like some kind of a Harry-Potter spell to me lol
I was looking it up after he said it lol. I'm not familiar with that word. How do you spell it?
@@ZeroThree31 Humus
@@ellarose8553 hi. Thank you. Yeah, I figured it out not long after I asked. I'm not even really sure why i asked lol. I should have known that I wouldn't get an answer anytime soon after I asked, if at all.
@@ZeroThree31 hahaha no worries
Great video. I think this is how the wave function collapses in physics. You start with a probability wave which is made up of e.g. a photon in a variety of different possible places e.g 30% likely to be here, 30% likely to be there 30% likely to be over there etc & then you measure where the particle is which SOMEHOW (noone knows how) 'collapses' the wave function so that the photon's location is 100% likely to be in 1 place. I think there's feedback between the measurement & the wave that rapidly amplifies the probability
Someone who's good both at music and ecology should one day investigate feedback loops in different ecosystems and make interpretations of them as pieces of music. That would be very cool.
Great video! Though I'm wondering if anyone else noticed they pronounce "humus" (Hue-mus) like "hummus" (Hum-mus), which is a Greek dip made of chickpeas. I love the harmony metaphor to illustrate the concept of complexity.
Educational revolution you are bringing. Making humans more knowledgeable. Thanks a lot ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
everything is a feedback loop ...
glad to see more people learning and spreading the news ...
i wonder how the Fibonacci Matrix Loops
Seems like a lot of humans didn't get the memo on having equilibrium with nature.
*****
Good point
***** I wish I had a blueprint for your brain; I'm trying to build an idiot.
Those bands were awesome both need a vocalist tho and they're destined for greatness. Their sound and look is unlike anything we have seen before
The video was informative but seriously the animals playing the instruments bit is just too well done like thanks for that viewing pleasure!
awwww I loved the scorpion playing the triangle *-*
I love the cheetah playing the piano! :D
GREATLY EXPLAINED!!!!! NOW I CAN UNDERSTAND BASIS GEOG!! THANK YOUUUUU
I knew it, we're within the most complex music visualizer in the universe
sloth cymbal player is killin it. great concept in this video thanks!
When things go sideways…. We have to find pathways toward better correction and positive feedback loops. I’ve been telling my kids since they were little… “what’s the most important thing about falling down?”. They call back, “get back up”. They are the teenagers now, so I don’t get the same calm back… :).
The concept of human centric positive feedback loops is decent. The iron sharpens iron concept with health, climate and tools can help.
#LoveEVICTShate
Amazing lesson and animation :)
The nature is teemed with example of positive and negative feedback. The nature don't need a central planner, different variables control each other like a musical harmony. Our bodily functions also are controlled by feedback system. ex., hormone, neural communication, and many many...
I became so sad when the flute playing panda went out of the frame, I was just waiting for it to come back, but then the real horror struck that this is where we ACTUALLY are headed to
Great explanation.
Thank you.
Well explained and illustrated!
Looks like I understood this Ted ed video
Way to go !!! 😀😀
Thank u all very much
Thank you so much for this!
Feedback loops are the process between device outputs. They are used as inputs.
I found the analogy to music to be very useful. :)
This is such a great way to convey this information. Thanks for this awesome video really appreciate
The final part made my day
These videos are freaaking amazing!
This is what I've been trying to tell people for 2 years on my channel. There's a feedback loop that governs a certain social dynamic in our country. Let's just say there's a "group A" that feels oppressed, and treated unfairly. Due to this feeling, they behave in certain ways. It completely shapes their culture (in negative ways). Due to how this culture is perceived by a certain other group, this other group, "group B" _does_ treat group A in exactly the way group A expected: unfairly. This is a feedback that group A doesn't see. You think you're treated a certain way, and YOU ARE, but you don't realize it's your own behavior that creates this feedback loop.
Think of it this way. If there were never reports of pitbull attacks, would anyone have certain stereotypical views of pitbulls in general? Where do you think those views came from? Out of thin air? I don't know what else I can say. I'm ready to pull my hair out. I've been trying to teach these concepts for about two years, and I have NO AUDIENCE. No one ever shares my videos, no one ever gives me a chance. You know what they call this? THE CASSANDRA COMPLEX.
Thank you random RUclips commentator
I thought this was a great way to understand something very complex!
1:38 I think they are wrong. Less death and less growth cause negative effect. So -1 x -1 = 1, the results is positive feedback.
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99% about the animation
Beautiful Explaination
what are the negative and positive feedback loops that they mentioned?
The negative is the moisture from the ice creating more clouds, allowing less heat in. The positive is when heat escapes from frozen ice and heats up the earth even more
3:53 , a real song or, if so name please
Darude-Sandstorm
wonderful animation!
David Hume was in good humour. He was humming in his Hummer after eating hummus on humus. Hum!
Well, considering great musicians can use feedback to their advantage to be part of the music, it’s not necessarily an obstacle. But I get what he was trying to say.
beautiful explanation! thank youuuu
Bt I don't understand...
That spider drummer made me laugh. Look how it claps while playing!
Thus, we have to find our own harmonious rhythm in the grand scale of things.
Is the hummus referred to also the kind we eat?
So... like the Light and Dark side of The Force, Equilibrium or like in real nature and physics Super Symmetry of Forces of Nature (matter and anti-matter)?
My son / daughter should watch this channel for daily basic 😂
I like when the spider was playing the drums it cured my phobia.
Hello and thank you for this quality work. Is it possible to use this video in classroom with my students (partly or in full)? What about copyright? Thank you. #french biology teacher
As far as I’m concerned, you don’t need to ask for this type of stuff. You are allowed to show your students. It’s a different story if you use their video in a video that you make.
4:00 is awesoem
3:28 you lost me here, loved the bird's entry
Control systems student. Very good understanding of feedback loops. I really do appreciate the effort but I feel it could be a bit more better
perfect parable
HUMUS AND HUMMUS ARE PRONOUNCED DIFFERENT. *FEWER PLANTS. GOOD LORD.
+Mad Robertson I get you brother
Mad Robertson Is it pronounced hue-merce?
@@daisuke910 no, that's humorous (if you say it really fast)
This is amazing.
When the animals started playing music I literally laughed for like 10 minutes and couldn't stop bruh
This was the cutest thing ever
Simply awesome
Intriguing video!
Nice metaphor between human bands and nature food chains.
Nice summary. BTW hummus is a food. Humus is organic matter in the soil!
It would have been nice to see more of the music band metaphor of anthropocene.
Animator's style is pretty
Well done, nice video!
Thank you.
3:20 All educational videos should include animal synth band
unexpected reactions... sooo true!!!
I keep finding mispronunciation in these vids. Recently it was "a dice" not "a die".
In this one, He says "Hummus", which is a chickpea derived food from the middle-east/mediterranean. Humus, is pronounced "Hyoo-mus" or "Hoo-mus", depending on who you ask.
Somebody get the narrators a coach or something.
very informative thank you
Great video.
Just a shout out to fungi, that turns the decaying organic debris into hummus rich in nutrients for more life to develop!
i love the hard rock deep sea band!
Octopi would be really good percussionists if they knew what they were doing and could live out of water for long enough.
Same with spiders, except they are land animals and are way too small and unintelligent.
The flower playing guitar looks like Leslie from The Amazing World of Gumball.
The scorpion holding a triangle is pretty accurate.
Flute Panda should be a meme.
Yes, I’m a musician, in case you couldn’t tell.
everything is connected
wonderful content!
3:35
>good music
>ted-ed
WHAT IS THIS
Nice, where can I learn more about this kind of loops?, the math looks so interesting
I now understand these
So everything that exists, is frequency and chemicals?
+Robeon Mew yes coz photons.
Love the video!
So beautiful
if there is not an intelligent designer behind all this, then i think me and my friends should just keep beating at some instruments until we make a hit album its bound to happen by chance right? hum but then even then i guess since we are intelligent that it still means that it came about by intelligent design.
We have created software that can predicted with about 80% accuracy whether or not a song will be in the top 40 based on patterns, that and we've created software that can create pop songs based on a simple set of rules and randomized input. So software can generate a hit off of just random input. The point in feed back loops allow complex system to spontaneously generate based on very simple rules, and feedback. Look up Logistic map, the game of Life (chaos theory not the board game), or really any subject in chaos theory. Chaos theory that very very complex systems can and do arise with out the need of any designer.
dude we made the software and we gave it rules to follow to make sound, that sounds like an intelligent designer you actually made me even more convinced that there must be an intelligent being out there
You seem to misunderstand my point. We might have identified the rules that make pop music popular , but those rules spontaneously arose through a series of cultural and economic feedback loops. Further my other examples have 0 need for a designer. Chaos theory proves complexity can arise from spontaneously with out any need of a designer. The Watch maker argument is incorrect.
***** It is organized, and that has nothing to do with "intelligent design." We are the designers; all of it, all of us, everything.
don't confuse a metaphor with proof of fairy tales
Well, this is certainly not confusing at all...
Humus is pronounced hyoo-muh-s.
This is great