Back in the day, 10 years ago, every Internet platform startup would harvest data from similar sites to get “up and running”. They would have no users without content and no content without users… So, you’d see daring or property sites with 1000s of profiles but 99% fake, dead profiles to lure you in, until they could get sufficient real live data on their platform 😅
I have already noticed companies stealing work done/owned by others and sticking it on their own sites. It is a déjà vu feeling when you realise that this is a take too/two.
There is exactly the amount of logic required to one-way answer a comment or post and nothing more. 99% of the time that is a very simple exchange. You can quantify it. Rarely will you get past 10-20 examples, or 3 or 4 topics with relative references, or whatever. The bitches intelligence is sigmoidal I'm tired of talking about it. The entire "novelty" of it is encapsulated in the language tokenization. There's about 99 other brain systems they need to create to get to AGI and haven't made progress on in the meantime.
I am not sure, but I think I remember hearing that Perp at least provides links to its sources, so at least there is that for what little its worth in light of the story.
I don't think walls will be a solution either. If the information is not available within a few seconds and without barriers, users simply won't care about your site.
I haven’t read a single mainstream article of my own volition since they all started with the online nag screen paywall to read a worthless opinion piece.
It will get to a point here soon where tangible news will make a comeback, and people will only use the internet for video games. How does something so revolutionary like the internet get bastardized into smut?
I'm an author and the only thing I can now use is original academic and scientific papers. You cant even trust a Google answer to a simple question now.
@@davidgoodnow269 of course, the same can be said for Seattle, WA lol. I'm just saying that if you are helping me write a script for a movie, don't tell me that you Google searched all of the characters for their backstories. At least give me an autobiography source lol
We are moving towards a time where privacy is becoming seriously diluted. The people who create these (LLMs) are at a moral crossroads. They have two options, in fact only one is real. Figure out how to make these AI systems really smart and reactive and not just good at imitating patterns, or keep dumping tons of human data into these systems to show that they're improving and to keep the money flowing. Looking at what big players like OpenAI, Microsoft and Adobe are doing, it seems that they are going all-in on the data accumulation route, without caring much about our privacy and implications on the social fabric.
*I THINK YOU MIGHT BE WRONG* on one thing. I genuinely think we might see a resurgence in print media as the digital media becomes increasingly unusable Print books and magazine sales have gone up 2.1% and 4% respectively 2022 to 2023 and look on track to be even higher this year
@@gezenews Yeah Im sorry but you fundamentally misunderstand how the enshitification of the internet is taking place. You wont be able to FIND the other website, it will be in a million AI-generated sites filled with "Slop" all of which are better SEO'd and will always turn up higher in your search listings.
@@piccalillipit9211 Enshittification is a very specific term for a company with a stranglehold on a specific service sells out the retail customers and corporate customers back and forth until the service is rendered completely useless to both parties. Not being able to FIND websites is a skill issue. Google search being garbage is enshittification. There are other search engines. Use them. You're describing a normie problem that has existed for a while.
@@piccalillipit9211 Not being able to find websites is a skill issue. Maybe pull the hook out of your *** that is connecting you to your favorite search engine. This has been a problem for a long time but it's a market problem for the average user that follows trends. It's not a problem for people that need to use the internet and successfully do so. Specifically the search engine issue is a skill issue. Enshitification has nothing to do with it, and I suggest you look up who fails in the enshittification process. The answer is not the adept consumer.
@@piccalillipit9211 That's not how it will go down. Content creators will likely continue to have a role in the industry for a few years, before they get replaced by creative systems such as the one I am working on. Novel, humorous, or thought-provoking content perspectives, as opposed to plain factual delivery, will become the new currency. Platforms like Perplexity will rule the web for a while, serving highly personalized ads for their userbase. Publishers will be compensated by these companies for delivering their aggregated and recontextualized content. The relevance/authority indices of content will no longer be displayed on the user-facing search result pages but will be maintained within the AI's internal networks. Creators will be paid based on their weighted visibility, which takes into account factors such as their prominence in the served content, public trust and authority. They will become the AI's content farm, reaping rewards from their mental disorders. Most of them will be AI themselves, but verified human star writers will be compansed for wasting their lifes on this particular folly. Most of the population however will not give a fuck about reading, and move on to directing VR content, mastrubating over anime and receiving blowjobs from robots. The End.
I can see websites having more Captchas in the near future, but they'll have to be more complex because the LLMs are now really good with images. Maybe there'll be some sort of 'verification' you can get that would be tied to your browser and only traffic with that verification would be allowed in.
who cares. once it is on the internet it should be fair game. its like artists complaining about their work being used to train ai. its no different than if i wanted to study and artist and mimic their style and make new work that is my own.
Give any Indian origin person executive position, they make sure the company is ruined by bringing corruption, caste-politics and favoritism while hiring, fudging accounting numbers to make company great on paper. Ask any minority person or a lower caste dalit in India, how these Upper caste hindu people have been ruining their lives since 1947?
Ironically, no one complains the EVERY website, google copies a complete text copy and every image and save it to their internal data centers all of the world. And guess what Google makes $$ when you search and click on a link. Why is that okay and Scraping for AI is wrong?
@@WewasAtamans Google search clearly is making total local COPIES of all assets on the web without compensation., or explicit license. An AI views the publicly available assets and interprets them. Why would AI training need to license the assets?
@@FilmFactry what part of "providing LOCATION of content based on keywords vs. providing content based on someone else's content" don't you understand?
@@WewasAtamans Google Consumes copyright content for commercial purpose with no repercussions. Irrespective if a user clicks a link to the source or not. You could say without all the FREE content Google would not be a top 10 company. Likewise, if google (clearly it has) uses that same local copy of the internet to train their LLM, what would be the legal argument that you've granted full access of your site to google for their purposes, but preclude LLM training? I can't see how that would work. Remember Apple v. Microsoft. (pss. Microsoft won).
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Back in the day, 10 years ago, every Internet platform startup would harvest data from similar sites to get “up and running”. They would have no users without content and no content without users… So, you’d see daring or property sites with 1000s of profiles but 99% fake, dead profiles to lure you in, until they could get sufficient real live data on their platform 😅
I have already noticed companies stealing work done/owned by others and sticking it on their own sites. It is a déjà vu feeling when you realise that this is a take too/two.
I dislike the fact that it is being called AI, when in reality, as you said, this is simply data trolling. Call it 'TB' ... 'Troll Bots'
There is exactly the amount of logic required to one-way answer a comment or post and nothing more. 99% of the time that is a very simple exchange. You can quantify it. Rarely will you get past 10-20 examples, or 3 or 4 topics with relative references, or whatever. The bitches intelligence is sigmoidal I'm tired of talking about it. The entire "novelty" of it is encapsulated in the language tokenization. There's about 99 other brain systems they need to create to get to AGI and haven't made progress on in the meantime.
I am not sure, but I think I remember hearing that Perp at least provides links to its sources, so at least there is that for what little its worth in light of the story.
I don't think walls will be a solution either. If the information is not available within a few seconds and without barriers, users simply won't care about your site.
False. Every site I use has some kind of wall, because the sites you get led to that have easy access have always been worthless.
I haven’t read a single mainstream article of my own volition since they all started with the online nag screen paywall to read a worthless opinion piece.
It will get to a point here soon where tangible news will make a comeback, and people will only use the internet for video games.
How does something so revolutionary like the internet get bastardized into smut?
I'm an author and the only thing I can now use is original academic and scientific papers. You cant even trust a Google answer to a simple question now.
Uh . . . porn paid the start-up costs of the World Wide Web. The figures were widely published and widely discussed as it happened.
@@davidgoodnow269 of course, the same can be said for Seattle, WA lol.
I'm just saying that if you are helping me write a script for a movie, don't tell me that you Google searched all of the characters for their backstories. At least give me an autobiography source lol
Half the traffic and bandwidth was from ai robots. A week lost to lock them out. Fuck ai. Fuck aws ups. To hell with tense to.
We are moving towards a time where privacy is becoming seriously diluted. The people who create these (LLMs) are at a moral crossroads. They have two options, in fact only one is real.
Figure out how to make these AI systems really smart and reactive and not just good at imitating patterns, or keep dumping tons of human data into these systems to show that they're improving and to keep the money flowing.
Looking at what big players like OpenAI, Microsoft and Adobe are doing, it seems that they are going all-in on the data accumulation route, without caring much about our privacy and implications on the social fabric.
They will have crawled every single thing before there are any controls in place to stop this sort of thing.
We are looking at a summer of rock and roll, but not the kind many of us enjoy
Meanwhile these copyright violators are also quick to sue you or put you into prison when you violate their copyrights. What jackasses.
*I THINK YOU MIGHT BE WRONG* on one thing. I genuinely think we might see a resurgence in print media as the digital media becomes increasingly unusable
Print books and magazine sales have gone up 2.1% and 4% respectively 2022 to 2023 and look on track to be even higher this year
Websites will be replaced with other websites. They're not going back to books. They will say "Gosh this website sucks" and move on.
@@gezenews Yeah Im sorry but you fundamentally misunderstand how the enshitification of the internet is taking place.
You wont be able to FIND the other website, it will be in a million AI-generated sites filled with "Slop" all of which are better SEO'd and will always turn up higher in your search listings.
@@piccalillipit9211 Enshittification is a very specific term for a company with a stranglehold on a specific service sells out the retail customers and corporate customers back and forth until the service is rendered completely useless to both parties.
Not being able to FIND websites is a skill issue. Google search being garbage is enshittification. There are other search engines. Use them. You're describing a normie problem that has existed for a while.
@@piccalillipit9211 Not being able to find websites is a skill issue. Maybe pull the hook out of your *** that is connecting you to your favorite search engine. This has been a problem for a long time but it's a market problem for the average user that follows trends. It's not a problem for people that need to use the internet and successfully do so. Specifically the search engine issue is a skill issue. Enshitification has nothing to do with it, and I suggest you look up who fails in the enshittification process. The answer is not the adept consumer.
@@piccalillipit9211 That's not how it will go down. Content creators will likely continue to have a role in the industry for a few years, before they get replaced by creative systems such as the one I am working on. Novel, humorous, or thought-provoking content perspectives, as opposed to plain factual delivery, will become the new currency.
Platforms like Perplexity will rule the web for a while, serving highly personalized ads for their userbase. Publishers will be compensated by these companies for delivering their aggregated and recontextualized content. The relevance/authority indices of content will no longer be displayed on the user-facing search result pages but will be maintained within the AI's internal networks.
Creators will be paid based on their weighted visibility, which takes into account factors such as their prominence in the served content, public trust and authority. They will become the AI's content farm, reaping rewards from their mental disorders. Most of them will be AI themselves, but verified human star writers will be compansed for wasting their lifes on this particular folly.
Most of the population however will not give a fuck about reading, and move on to directing VR content, mastrubating over anime and receiving blowjobs from robots.
The End.
Capitalism, no crime that capitalists wouldn't do for the profit.
I can see websites having more Captchas in the near future, but they'll have to be more complex because the LLMs are now really good with images.
Maybe there'll be some sort of 'verification' you can get that would be tied to your browser and only traffic with that verification would be allowed in.
More likely, everything will move to subscription-limited access with account limits.
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This was great to watch.
robot has always been a convention
who cares. once it is on the internet it should be fair game.
its like artists complaining about their work being used to train ai.
its no different than if i wanted to study and artist and mimic their style and make new work that is my own.
Go fast and break things. Yup 😑
computer man!
Respecting rights does not get you Lambo money.
True capitilism. Like god intended
lol, export controls, lol, on data..
They will steal a lot of lies through 😅
No shizz. Its been well known already they scouted the internet snd took ehat they wanted
Eli the Tech Bro Guy
I love perplexity of it's good search capability. Hope they can overcome this issue.
Today i learnt repacious csuse of you. I wonder ai while scrape this.
Mr. Computer
maybe use perplexity before dissing it :)
aaah pero China...
The gringos got you to? You're thinking the world domination game being played by white Christian Americans includes you? lol.
Can AI scrape yoputube and create a Snarky, Opinionated Commentating Vlogger?
Give any Indian origin person executive position, they make sure the company is ruined by bringing corruption, caste-politics and favoritism while hiring, fudging accounting numbers to make company great on paper. Ask any minority person or a lower caste dalit in India, how these Upper caste hindu people have been ruining their lives since 1947?
LMFAO ok commie
gotta love your leftist propaganda.
Check out who wrecked Intel’s ability to hit 7 nm and lied about it while positioning himself for the top position.
Jesus, what a useless rant right off the bat. I unsubscribed. Add value not garbage.
Ironically, no one complains the EVERY website, google copies a complete text copy and every image and save it to their internal data centers all of the world. And guess what Google makes $$ when you search and click on a link. Why is that okay and Scraping for AI is wrong?
Google gives reference and URLs to the content it scrapes, it doesn't pretend it is the source of the material.
@@WewasAtamans Google search clearly is making total local COPIES of all assets on the web without compensation., or explicit license. An AI views the publicly available assets and interprets them. Why would AI training need to license the assets?
@@FilmFactry what part of "providing LOCATION of content based on keywords vs. providing content based on someone else's content" don't you understand?
@@WewasAtamans Google Consumes copyright content for commercial purpose with no repercussions. Irrespective if a user clicks a link to the source or not. You could say without all the FREE content Google would not be a top 10 company. Likewise, if google (clearly it has) uses that same local copy of the internet to train their LLM, what would be the legal argument that you've granted full access of your site to google for their purposes, but preclude LLM training? I can't see how that would work. Remember Apple v. Microsoft. (pss. Microsoft won).