USA: REACTION TO KILLING OF BRITISH SOLDIER IN NORTHERN IRELAND
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2015
- (13 Feb 1997) English/Nat
The Clinton administration has condemned the killing of a British soldier in Northern Ireland.
White House spokesman Mike McCurry said the sniper shooting was a "serious escalation" of the conflict in Northern Ireland.
And he said President Clinton is urging those connected with renewed violence to help restore a cease fire.
The White House chose to describe the latest attack on British forces in Northern Ireland as murder.
The British government blames the Irish Republican Army for the shooting that killed a 23-year old British soldier.
And the Clinton administration says it is concerned that little is being done to convince the I-R-A to resume the cease fire that it ended over a year ago.
SOUNDBITE: (English)
"The President continues to call upon those who can have influence with I-R-A to restore cease-fire. And clearly the escalation of the violence, murder of a British soldier, for the first time in years is a serious escalation. That does not reflect well on those who do claim to have allegiance to the concept of peace for the people of Northern Ireland."
SUPER CAPTION: Mike McCurry, White House spokesman.
White House spokesman, Mike McCurry said Clinton is still convinced the Belfast talks, led by American envoy George Mitchell, can spur all sides in the conflict to find a peaceful solution.
SOUNDBITE: (English)
"The President is convinced that the people of Northern Ireland, the people who desire peace in Northern Ireland, remain committed to a process that can help the parties bridge their differences. And the President continues to believe that the Belfast talks that have been shared by Senator Mitchell, provide the opportunity to do that. The President has full support for those talks, he encourages all of those who share commitment to democratic values and to peace in Northern Ireland to bridge their differences."
SUPER CAPTION: Mike McCurry, White House spokesman.
The I-R-A resumed attacks in Northern Ireland last October with a double car-bomb attack inside the British army's Northern Ireland headquarters.
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To put things into perspective my late father used to say one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter...
A terrorist is someone who uses violence or the threat of violence to circumvent the democratic process to achieve their aim. If the majority in NI choose to leave the UK in a democratic way then so be it. Until that happens the IRA will always be terrorists.
@@PaddyInf sounds like typical anglo hypocrisy
@@FlyingNazgul-wm1dv How is the legal democracy that we all live under hypocritical?
@@PaddyInf By that definition the British Governent are also terrorists....The colluded with Loyalist death squads in the murder of scores of innocent men women AND children. They too, circumvented the democratic process by murdering democratically elected politicians, as well as solicitors like Pat Finucane and Rosemary Nelson.
@@eamoc Completely different. What you describe is legal bodies breaking the law, and are therefore answerable to the public to justify their actions in court. The IRA are answerable to no one and commit criminality to achieve. political aims as policy.
What a lovely woman.
Lol Simp
only a fool has joy in his heart for murder....youll meet your maker one day
What people don't understand is that the British Government willingly turned Northern Ireland into a warzone with supplying one terror organisation with intel and arms, and provoking the other. The young british lad died for nothing and it's cruel, but it wasn't a provo who had sent him there. The Brits feared they'd loose Northern Ireland like they'd lost other colonies in the years before the Troubles. So they very much helped to escalate that conflict. They where the ones starting the murdering. Before Bloody Sunday the IRA blew up monuments, pillars and statues. Then the brits came with units like the MRF (check them out). They provoked the IRA (who were armed) with raids and stuff. People were killed by the army during those raids, not by the IRA. Then Bloody Sunday happened and the violence escalated and everyone involved who wasn't a murderer yet became one. But don't dare to believe the British Army came to Northern Ireland to secure peace or whatever because it was their government who turned the six counties into a powderkeg. And then they light it up so they can get in and get rid of everybody not thinking like them to consilidate their rule with oppression. And this does provoke violence and terrorism. Think about it. Take a look at Bloody Sunday or the Miami Show Band Massacre. Who are the murderers if one government tricks you into killing each other, sure there were mentals in the terrorist organisations and that conflict gave them a playground to kill people. All of them got released btw. Including the UFV guy who ran into a mostly catholic pub on halloween, shot a dozen of ppl while screaming "trick or treat". Freed by the Good Friday Agreement and the British Government. That guy went on to join a Neo-nazi group just to stab someone.
j mcmillan : maggie is already there,the rest following.
Tiocfaidh ár lá
@@theoneandonly1355 romantic dream
@@parau6870 good points made but the British Army initially were sent to protect the Catholics and did so very well, then the catholics attacked them...I know Ireland is a complex issue but believe me the British Army done all it could to stop the factions from annialating each other things just got dirty and you have to fight dirt with dirt.
It was a filty conflict of horrors for all concerned but you too must understand my friend and believe me I know The Irish Government are the ones who DON'T want a United ireland and it's still the same today
They had to move house after this interview. Charming.
just show there is humanity out there, peace
+Dominic Hetherington lol your a happy chap, love how you get so angry. have a good long life ;)
This is just Anglo/American propaganda.
@@Lorddonen They meant the lady speaking & trying to help the dying soldier.
@@wks107tdv123 fuck off
Sad
Shit I know that guy I used to work with his father lovely family bless him.
Thankfully the killing in Ireland is stopped along with 700years of warfare.
But only very recently. Dissident paramilitaries were still killing people just 2 or 3 years back. And they set off a bomb just this year. Luckily no one was hurt.
Its a shame. But those soldiers don't belong there and never have.
@Blob B Have you ever heard of the plantation process. In the seventeen hundred England planted Protestants in the north for that reason only. So they had support in Ireland. They were truly English living in Ireland
@@mattreilly5011 You would appear to be somewhat lacking in your historical knowledge, the plantations were mainly Lowland Scottish rather than English.
@@williamtraynor-kean7214Who cares who they were? It's using useless old grudges and wallowing in victimhood to try and justify wanton violence.
@@mattreilly5011 WRONG. The Plantation in the 1600's overwhelmingly involved Scottish Protestants. Where do think the Northern Irish protestant community originates from?
That was the south armagh last sniper kill before the ceasefire. His brother was shot dead driving home so is there any wonder young men joined thr IRA to rid British occupation from Ireland.Im not glorifying this mans death but one has to remember why he was targeted in the first place
@Rotten to the Core! well these soldiers did come into our country first and try to get rid of all catholics in the whole of ireland and catholics were basically oppressed. So they got what was coming to them. I only wish that the english gave us a united ireland with the good friday agreement instead of just a ceasefire
@@random_guy_on_youtube5342 they came here to protect Catholics.and they are in the UK which is their own country and still is.
@@ProfileP246 Incorrect,Britain is an entirely seperate island and country....Ireland is an entirely seperate island and country with 6 of her counties under foreign occupation,and remains partitioned,but not for long....Brits out.
@@bealfeirste2056 AK your balls I'm British and I was born here
Fergal was shot dead by Royal Marine Commandos showing off at bessbrook, not glorifying his death! But @stephendoran.
I understand why the ira are in operation and why they are fighting but cmon you shot a soldier in the back while he was talking to a family not only did you kill a person who had no defense but you could've also hurt a mother and a father and maybe even their children
Conor Fields
No, how many under the age of 16 have the British Army shot dead?
@Conor Fields No where near as many innocent people that were killed by the IRA. What's your point?
@Conor Fields I have done the research. I didn't mention the UVF or any other loyalist groups and neither did your one that I replied to. Your post only mentioned the British Army. The IRA killed between 550 and 700 civilians during the Troubles depending on the source and definition of civilian. The British Army killed a total of 299 including terrorists. The RUC killed around 50. So even at the low end of the figures the IRA killed far more civilians than the total number of people killed by the police and army combined. Have a look at CAIN or the Sutton index which are both available on line and are considered the most accurate research bases available online for this.
@Conor FieldsI don't need too look it up, I was there. I grew up a 5 minute walk from Holy Cross primary. My parents still live in the Ballysillan Road area and I actually attended Wheatfield Primary which faces it as a child. I was posted in Belfast at the time. My Regiment was part of the security forces response in protecting the kids walking to school, so I was one of the soldiers you see with shields and riot gear, shielding the children. We were the ones being shot at and having petrol, acid and pipe bombs thrown at us. I completely disagreed with the whole way how both sides acted. The Loyalists had genuine grievances as there had been several incidents of people driving from Ardoybe and trying to run over people putting up flags in the adjacent Glenbryn estate, so the loyalists protested by trying to stop anyone going past the estate from Ardoyne. Remember that Holy Cross children had used that route for decades even through the worst of the Troubles. However attacking young children was just wrong in every way. It should not have happened, and the Loyalists should be ashamed of their conduct.
What they don't show on TV however is that the children did not need to walk that way to get to the school. There is an alternate entrance that is accessible via the Crumlin Road which completely bypasses the Glenbryn estate, and many parents used this. However some Catholic parents insisted on walking past the estate despite knowing they would be attacked. I understand the desire to be seen by the media, however I personally wouldn't risk my children for the sake of the cameras.
@@flyboy747uk : 186 under 16 died in the troubles?
No problem with Irish, but is there anything more cringe than a plastic paddy?
And you'd be in a position to decide who that is, based on what expertise exactly?
@@iano239 💨
Thank God the sensless killings and other atrocities are gone forever hopefully.
Boston 👀
Majella O'Hare machine gunned in the back at 12 years old by a British soldier in Ireland. The Empire apologists will tell us they weren't all like that no doubt.
dont invade our country then cry when we fight back
It was hardly an invasion and a war lol
@@jamiebushby729 it was u spa
@@archivedchannel8381 trust me it wasn't lol the Falkland was a war and a invasion Britain and Ireland had a political dispute
@@jamiebushby729 wdym trust you bro? I'm Irish I think I know if some1 is fucking our country
@@archivedchannel8381 if Britain was fucking with your country you'd be fucked lol and I'm half Irish but I'm England till I die
The poor lad should have stayed in England head be still alive
I'm always saying it wasn't a provo who sent those young scots, welshmen and englishmen to the six counties.
Could have been Northern Irish then he would still die
@@parau6870 but the provos sent them to the afterlife. No man has the right.
He knew the risks, going against illegitimate self-righteous trash like the IRA.
@@ProfileP246Oh, the provos sent a lot of people to the afterlife, not just this man who was doing his job he was paid to do, they sent totally innocent and blameless people to the afterlife on a regular basis, and you can't dress that up.
It was a war what do you expect
It was the Irish mafia defending their drug trafficking trade. Posing as a political agenda
it says 666 on their vehicles
Yeah that's what happens when you invade another people's country. ✊🏻🇮🇪
Nireland is part of the UK incase you didn't know
@@silvertain1978 against a lot of the peoples will as the British were never invited to Ireland and typical of the brits to think they own everything. Demographics are changing fast and loyalism is dying. Only in shithole council estates will you find people saying loyalism is thriving. It's simply not true. United Ireland on it's way
@@Eire-hj1ct tell that to the millions who are happy being part of the uk:)
@@silvertain1978noone in Ireland gives a shit about who's happy in england or so on. We care about OUR island and OUR country. And there is less than a million Unionists in the north of Ireland and that number is steadily declining.
@@Eire-hj1ct lots of people in northern ireland see themselves as part of the uk, tough shit mate it's the way it is. Stop living in the past
He should of stayed home.
should have*
@r h o d e s i a are i sqd
So should the sniper.
Let's not forget the amount of Irish who died at the hands of the English. Millions of lives lost for nothing.
And yes I mean millions, the famine is just a cover up for the English's attempted genocide of the Irish
I agree, but I don’t think that’s a justification for what happened hundreds of years later. It’s sad how people use that to justify the ira going in a bombing campaign killing innocents.
Yes murdering that young soldier is fair as his great , great grandfather was behind the famine...
silvertain1978 there’s a good chance his grandfather wasn’t even British
I’m English, but at that time period my ancestors were in Africa, and I think France. Does that stop me getting held responsible for the famine? No
@@rosspatterson1233 my post was meant to state that soldier was murdered for nothing , obviously he wasn't involved in the famine he was killed by scum for no reason
silvertain1978 I know, I was trying to say that even hating someone because of their nations past is stupid, because it’s highly likely that their ancestors weren’t even in the country
"mindless people" they did it for your freedom
Shut the fuck up, northern Ireland isn't exactly China
@Darren Richardson Ah you mean the Irish? Because Northern Ireland is part of the uk
@Darren Richardson pretty sure quite a few people will have something to say about that, Northern Ireland is part of the UK who the fuck would want to be part of Ireland? What benefit would that be? The Irish couldn't manage their own economy ran it into the ground yet you want to drag us down into the cesspit with you? Nah mate you can stay down their and enjoy being Europe's bitch along with Greece.
@Darren Richardson blah blah deluded republican bullshit, what about the one million plus people who done agree with your shite?
And your still not “ Free” 😂😂😂😂
We gave England her answer from the barrels of our guns.......farewell to Bellaghy....
I feel empathy for her, but shes wrong about that, what the IRA did had a massive geopolitical impact, so it really was done for her and the people of this island.
jack jones You can disagree, but in the end of the day, an IRA hunger striker has streets named after him across the global, and that will point to the contrary. We could debate this at length but your response would indicate a lack of knowledge or understanding for us to move forward with a debate.
Dont lower yourself with insults, however, so unbecoming.
jack jones Peace? lol I wouldnt call this peace. Anyways, in terms of geopolitical impact, even going away from what IRA successes did in terms of encouraging national liberation struggles across the globe, the british used it to their advantage and sold their skills of counter insurgency. I remember seeing plenty of british soldiers from israel etc sent here to train. Moreover, most of the popular counter insurgency techniques were developed here.
Even when you dont share my perspective, you have to admit that the war here had a geopolitical impact beyond the scope of popular perception.
jack jones Good to see you have a go to response. Meh, i am entitled to my fact based opinion, you, unfortunately, are entitled to say you disagree without fact.
jack jones Haha i lived through such times in North Belfast and have suffered. None of that should affect the fact based opinion ive put forward, however I would like to compliment you on your extensive use of English.
Maith thú.
idiot
Amazing how many Americans believe that Ulster is occupied by force by the British. The majority of people in Northern Ireland consider themselves to be British and not Irish, it's a democrat country and if the majority of people in Northern Ireland wanted to be united with Eire they would have been able to decide by the ballot box.. the fact is, that most of the Northern Irish people prefer to remain in the UK, it's not due to nasty English occupiers, it's due to the fact that the majority have chosen to remain. In the future the percentage of Catholics may mean that they outnumber the Protestants in Ulster and if they become the majority they may choose to vote for union with Eire. The point is, it's naïve and ignorant to believe that Ulster is an occupied territory, it's population live in one of the oldest democracies in the world.
Not your business what 20% is that? From unionists lol who cares what unionists want they're a minority in Ireland and becoming smaller every year.
Eire doesn't fuckin want the north, couldn't see a country already in debt wantin ti take in "irish" that are unemployable n canae do anything but scratch their arse whilst on the dole an dla. United ireland sounds good ti people realise they have to pay fir everything themselves and no huge benefits lol virgin north
Now there is a new serious problem here and catholics and protestants at long last agree on something lol
Doesn't really matter anymore on both sides we are both going to be the minorities in the very near future and that scares me more than the troubles ever did
A border referendum in around 2024 will vote for a United Ireland and end the British occupation once and for all. Tiocfaidh ár lá 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
They shouldn't be there in the first place
The DARK HUGHES Hughes
Piss off there's never been a untied Ireland
Dark Hughes ,, If you are denying the right of NI to exist ,then what about America, Canada< Australia, NZ SA. |The British have been in Ireland longer than the white man in all of those countries.
housecarl6 Ummm yea, Canada America or Australia are actually free from British rule soo...
Mr X yes there has actually
Declan Fegan,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Ummmm Yea but they didn`t become Maoris or Red Indians or Aborigines did they ?
Fuck the IRA from uk
And we were fighting for them
@Liam C So it's smart to kill innocent civilian men, women and children by bombing them? Isn't that pure hypocrisy for the IRA being smart after you accuse the British Army of doing the same? You need a reality check and get back to today's world. Stop living in the past.
Mk1Male One side is fighting for freedom the other is fighting to protect the orange state and Protestants
D clark; another weapons of mass destruction answer?
@VIPICCB6; maybe becouse they WON.
@VIPICCB6 Ever heard of the Derryyard checkpoint attack?
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That was Stephen Restorick !! The last Brit killed in our war with the Brits thanks to the south Armagh Sniper!! He was eventually caught but served less than 2 years inside due to the Good Friday Agreement !!! I'll agree to that all day long!! UP THE RA 🇮🇪✊🏻🇪🇭
Fuck the IRA. No Surrender. Long live the UFF and Northern Ireland. Republican cowards burn in hell.
@@chrisff8303 the UFF!!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA how many members is that yous have now? 4?
After that snake Tony Blair let you off the hook. That man gave the UK away, he is a traitor.
The IRA are cowards and so are you.
Chris FF loyalist cowards should burn in hell too being to afraid to fight the ira head on and had to call in the british amry to fight legally for ye , ur all nothing but englands bitch
All you people commenting here are blind and lost completely.... John 3.16
Uh...YOU'RE commenting here.
They sudnt be in our country in da 1st place the ira aren’t Terroirst the are freedom fighters
Blob B and the British army killed women and children too, does that make them terrorists?
spell correctly you dim fucking idiot
It's not your country dipshit
@@annamariadargan7625 no. The British actually declared war
@@bosunbill5160 they declared war in 1922...
Up the RA! Tioch fad ar la!
DICK
No surrender up the UVF 🇬🇧
@@skeptic781 the ra boys will take your wee stupid uvf. Just you wait and see
@@padraigpearse1551 ooo, scary
Karma is a bitch huh.
As long as a force 'occupies', it needs to accept all that comes with that occupation. Greed always has its reprecussions. Always.
No
So who's occupied you 🤡
@@michaelmcmullan2300 Freedom!
Ironic that you support Christ but you support the murder of a man who was trying to keep the peace.
@@rossthomson1958 Universal Law states that if you live by the gun, you die by the gun. Or in a more familiar statement, you reap what you sow.
Target engaged and destroyed.
Shit bag.🇬🇧
RUGER 14 bit like the 7 IRA pricks were in 87 when they thought they’d be safe jumping back in their van Pmsl , how I laughed when the SAS sprayed them with lead
Asshole
@Bucket with a face on it Mate. It's documented in British Army historical files. There is literally army generals and commanders who are in documentaries telling of the torture and abuse that went on. British collusion with Unionist paramilitaries giving them weapons to kill innocent catholics. The para regiments treated everyone with total disdain, shooting 13 unarmed civilians during a fucking civil rights protest where no one war armed.
You obviously have no idea about the scale of the Troubles or the involvement of the SAS, Special Branch and the Army. Please go watch some documentaries and read up on wiki before responding.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1972)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1920)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Banner
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Ireland
John Kavanagh Lee Rigby was killed wearing a Help for Heroes jumper not a British Army uniform ya braindead bastard why you making things up in your head Hahaha, different breed you lot. Away for a shower and take a break from hiding behind your screen talking shite on RUclips comments.
She wanted to go over and hold a Hired killer.
none of the above. without countries having armed forces you wouldnt be alive today...
@@nickjupp6868 i would
The British Soliders are strong
Thomas Byers Not over here they were'nt!!!
@@belfastsoul8863 yes they were red tape thwarted them but they could of wiped the ira in an hour given the green light'..
brit nic Yeah but they DIDN'T!!!!
What do you mean "weren't"? They still have around 2,000 soldiers stationed in N.I.
@@britnic5394 They were given the green light. You cant wipe out an enemy that you cant find or see. Same as Afghanistan. How's that coming along? Taliban are as strong as ever yet they had the advantage of air power and bombs. Still failed.