Hi Pavlin. Always picking the alternative side of things...I enjoyed the video, honestly. I can understand how this can be a personal opinion issue. However another factor for each rider to consider is the country one lives and rides most of the time, because for instance in Greece even 3-5 degrees may play a role. Also I would suggest that it depends on whether or not you are going off road a lot or just a bit. Anyway, after many years of dark colored jackets I just got a light grey one for reasons of visibility and safety mostly but also perhaps as a sign of shifting taste. Pants is a whole different story. Dark, dark, dark! Cheers!
I live in Brazil and ride all over South America. Here the weather is to much hot (except in Patagonia and Andes). White gear is beter (white, gray, whatever...). The last trip to Patagonia, I took 2 BMWs jackets with me (summer Air flow and Winter & rain enduroguard), it worked very well. The temperatura ranged from 42° to 0º (summer time).
Motorcycle clothing has come a long way in the 40 or so years I have been riding. How the jacket and trousers are made is more important than the colour. I learned this having lived in countries where for much of the year the temperature is below freezing. About 10 years ago I stopped wearing black motorcycle clothing. I found that people I encountered who were not bikers reacted in a more positive way if I did not look like a "scary biker". This can be important when travelling on adventures. The warmest motorcycle jacket I own is a BKS Endeavour. It is pale grey (mostly). If the air temperature gets above +5C I get too hot even with the vents open so only use it in winter.
Like the video, and I agree with you on many points, but... In fact - white is not only colder when it is hot, it is also warmer (or less cold) when it is cold outside! This may come as a surprise to many, and seem weird, but the reason is the radiation balance. There is an energy balance between object that can “see” each other, and the surface of an object decides the level of thermal radiation communication. In the winter, moat things are cold, very cold, the ground, the trees, the sky... In a dark room, totally isolated from the world outside, objects with different temperatures will finally reach the same temperature, but it goes faster the closer the surfaces of the objects are to true black body surfaces. So in most winter situations, a white clothing is actually warmer, because it radiates less of your body heat to the surroundings. A very sunny winter day the difference is less, but typically white is still the winner when it comes to keeping warm. That said, you are absolutely right when it comes to keeping it clean. White gear suck! White helmets being the exception, due to the glossy surface. And actually/therefor, regarding heat, I would say that the helmet is the most important thing to have in bright colours. A black helmet in city traffic a hot and sunny day is no fun! Best regards, Hugo (who are a physicist, and... wears red! 😉)
Thanks Pavlin! You are the best when it comes to minimizing the confusing BS that comes with consumerism, getting right to the real world practicality of things. Please never loose this in your reviews and opinions. With regards to temperature and dark versus light gear, I find that it only makes a difference at low speeds (under 25MPH or 40KPH) or stopped. With faster moving air, the surface of the jacket will match the air temperature so it doesn't matter. I ride mainly higher speeds on the street for leisure. I don't spend much time at slower speeds. I don't commute and rarely have to deal with traffic. I also don't ride highly technical off road. As a result, I prefer black rid of NG gear for durability and looking cleaner. If it looks cleaner I don't have to wash/clean it as much which makes it last longer. Good point about the GoreTex warranty. I never thought of that. I have two outfits I mainly wear. I have a light mesh suit made by Revit. I only wear it if temperatures will stay above 85 degrees F (30C). I hardly ever wear it because I rarely ride in weather that stays that hot all day. Usually it gets cooler at higher elevation or in the morning. It gets dirty easily and also the mesh is a compromise to abrasion resistance in a crash. As a result, I only wear this outfit maybe 10% of the time at most. The only time I really needed it was riding in the summer in Arizona with Temps in the high 90s (35C+) in the morning! I would never ever do that again if I have a choice! The other suit is a black 3+ season leather/mesh/waterproof suit that I wear 90% of the time. When it is warm and I stop, I take off the jacket immediately so I do not over heat. I try to keep it in the shade so it doesn't get hot. When it is time to ride again, I wait until the last minute to put it back on and start riding as soon as possible. In very hot temps, I use a wet cooling vest to keep me hydrated and cool and I also prefer cotton/polyester blend T-shirts (Puma makes nice ones) in hot temps as opposed to full polyester which is much hotter and less breathable. For visibility, I recommend high visibility vests and/or helmet and treating the bike for visibility rather than light colored clothing unless money is no concern. I have a white helmet, reflective stickers, and blinking LED brake and turn signals. I probably should also get a high vis vest for some riding conditions. Thanks again for all the sensible tips and information you provide. Stay safe my friend. I would love to ride with you one day. I live in Colorado USA.
My advice on visibility is take a flash photograph of the garment under consideration. The one with the most reflective materials becomes instantly obvious and in low light conditions the car headlights with light you up like a Christmas tree. I had a day-glow fluorescent jacket once with no reflective panels and a dark grey and blue jacket with fantastic reflective sections on seams, shoulders - front side and rear and on the arms and waist - the dark jacket was better visibility. Use your camera flash you'll be safer.
I like your Revit Jacket on that color. Actually any color gets dirty the same. The light one Will show it faster than the dark one. Thanks for the washing tip for the goretex products.
Another great video, I find that bright colours on sunny days like he discussed does not help that much for visibility. I rather rely on the many safety tips example, lane placement, having an exit strategy for intersections. And following Road strategies that will keep you safe if used and practice them. But on grey rainy days I like to put on a hi visible vest. Just to add another level of safety.
Thanks bruh, my doubt got clarified. I have a black colour riding gear from Solace, was to change with grey colour gear from Solace too, but I was unsure whether or not to go for the exchange. I am now clear and would stick with black one. Thanks a million again ❤
OOOOKay - I have a white Icon DKR Raiden jacket (official color is Glory). Except for black patches from elbows down. As a result... on a hot sunny day, my forearms are melting, especially in slow/stationally trafic. The difference in thermal comfort, or lack thereof, under the black patches is staggering. In winter... it doesn't matter what the color is and I rode in humid 3 degrees Celsius on a highway. After the trip, I got a cheap electric vest from Amazon :) You can always heat yourself up, but you can't do much to cool yourself down.
I agree with you, very good advice, as for me, I use lite colors, and just don't wash them much so I don't compromise the gore-tex. Thank you my friend. Good luck and good rides
@2:35 that only works if it's a sunny cold day. If it's cloudy, raining and windy ... mmm not so much. It's the UVs that warm dark clothes faster, no UVs no advantage for the dark clothes. Also, if your cold you can get an extra layer for those 3 degrees, if your too hot in dark clothing, there's only so much you can take off ...
I like to have a light color for my helmet. For me it makes a noticeable difference on hot sunny days. The jacket is black with reflective applications and wide neon yellow bands on the sleeves. The contrasts help with visibility. For me the jacket does not feel too hot even on bright summer days. My riding pants are dark too. Some dirt and insects still leave clearly visible stains. If I do not expect rain, I simply select riding jeans that can be washed without problems. I think that situational awareness is more important for my safety than the color of my gear. I wash my Goretex gear with liquid washing soap after a few months ( depending on how much I sweat in it). Even after a couple of years it does not leak.
I have ridden for 7 years now and in my experience I have to say colors like reflective yellow and orange are best for motorcycle gear. Yes it does not look cool, but is very visible and dead guy are not cool either. I was with my car one day, and the only thing that I saw in the rear view mirror was a motorcyclist with an orange jacket. The black version is not visible in during the day and is invisible during the night. The white one can be visible in the dark, can be visible in the day, but when you ride in a cloudy day or at the twilight you will be invisible. The most bright colors are yellow or orange. I personally tested riding with yellow vest, hunting orange vest and no vest. With no vest car drivers didn't saw me and they don't let me pass, but when I was wearing the vests there where 3 cars ahead that made me room to pass. Of course you can find a blind driver, but the chances are less. Soo, I personally don't care about the color of my jacket, because I will always were my orange vest. you can also put on you bike reflective tape stickers. :) Ride safe.
Using black Rukka equipment with reflective applications since more than a decade, but wearing a white helmet. What do you recognise first of a motorcycle rider? Its the helmet (and of course the motorcycle). And just one suggestion for minimizing the dirt on your combination: After washing it use a good impregnation. Properly applied it will keep (1) your stuff dry and (2) the dirt is easier to remove without washing.
Another great video thanks. I do wash my Richa gear in the washing machine, cold with little detergent. and slow spin. Sometimes I add Nikwax to it but. Have been washing my gear 4 times a year. Never had any problems. I ride 15K miles a year and worn it 3 years now. It does get old and some of the seams and pockets have little holes but still ok for daily commute.
Great video! I got quite a bit out of this. Living up north (Scandinavia) the heat absorption argument ( dark material > black) weigh heavily for the many. Rukka is a big seller and also been my choice for the last 4yrs. I chose black and it's been as good as I hoped it would. Yet a sweltering experience in summer, if one rides south in Europe. I have to bring a separate set (mesh based) when riding in the south. It works, but it also means more weight and more luggage. Rukka is perfect for Nordic conditions, sub-par for southern. In the process of considering alternatives. Your points are therefore valuable. Cheers.
I think this is strange, the black don't really help since the cold days are usually not that sunny anyway, but the visibility is often much reduced due to gloomy dark weather. Maybe not for summer riders but... /Swede.
Most of my ridding is a Cruiser on back mountain roads maybe %25 on main roads, freeways and in towns. I've been a long haul trucker so have a lot of experience looking at bikes, Motorcycles and CRAZY 4 wheelers. Color on a rider and the bike helps but it seems the most important object for visibility is the helmet Thanks for your wisdom
I like the lighter gear because it MIGHT make me more visible in a sea of black, and therefore safer. Wash in machine with Nik wax cleaner. No problems. Great to be able to ride again! Happy travels
Wow 650 videos! 👍 The good thing it's that most of them are very usefull! Keep up the good work! I agree with the lighter colours, I personally started with a white helmet for the same safety reasons.
I bought a Alpinestars Patron Jacket on purpouse in black/neon as it was on Sale and you can skip a riding vest. Its not really a light color but at least its neon on the top. I don't care if the colors don't match my KTM, safety first! Concerning weather, I don't care if its hotter or not...I am riding and I need a safety jacket.
I there, over here in Madrid, Spain I use black color only. Dont like white.....gets dirty just from looking to it but I agree that white colors the jacket looks nicer. And its funny because I just boght for the first time a Revit jacket for the summer color black....never had anything from Revit and for me its a very nice surprise....price/quality very very nice....they got a new client.
I've always preferred light colours when riding as it gives more visibility. Also Ive just ordered Held Hakuna 2 adventure jacket and trousers. Got the jacket already and I feel it makes me more visible on the road compared to dark coloured jacket Inused before.
If you're too cold, add another layer or slow down to lower the wind chill. If get stuck in traffic on hot tarmac, 5 degrees could keep you from having a heat stroke. Light colored gear makes the most sense where I ride.
I have a black Aerostitch and I always wear a mesh reflective yellow and orange vest. The more current style on a jacket, the sooner it will go out of style. All black is classic.
To be really visible, one of the best option is a yellow or orange vest...on your black vest :) ....it may not look fancy but everybody can see you...:))
Hi Pavlin, I will throw in my 5 cents. I am in Australia and for the most part, I like bike jackets/coats that are mostly black but I don't mind if they have grey bits or even some white bits, but I do like some kind of highly reflective markings/text on the back, sides and some on the front of my bike coats. My bike is black so I like to have the extra visibility from speeding cars coming from behind me when I ride at night. The heavy coat matches my requirements and is what I ride with in winter but the light one is black with some highly reflective stuff - that is my summer coat. I have fitted extra bicycle reflectors to my KLR and I think they work quite well but who knows. As for cleaning Gore-tex coats, I don't but I do give the highly reflective bits a wipe over with a damp rag occasionally. Otherwise, my coats only get washed when it rains.
Thanks for taking on the topic! I think it’s helpful to examine more closely what has become conventional advice and you’re willing to open up those cans of worms😎
There is one and only pro for light gear (and white helmet) and all other pro's and con's are not important. You look like Empire stormtrooper! And this is priceless :D
Living near the equator it very hot all year, so only wear white jacket and solid white Shoei helmet. Hard to find solid white helmets in other brands. Revit has best options in white or silver jackets.
Hi Pavlin! It really is a matter of personal opinion. I prefer the light color for visibility. LAst year I have purchased a jacket from Oxford it is Montreal 2.0 in sand color. And I still keep a high viz ribbon in the luggage for the night riding, or when it is really dark and rainy. Washing is not such a big issue if you know your apparel and the care instructions are followed correctly.Thank You for sharing experience
I have used black jacket and trouser for 35 years and the first time I bought light jacket and trousers I wished I didn't after about 6 months of use. It gets dirty VERY quick and looks disgusting, and when others look at you, they think your are smelly person. This makes you wash the garments more often, and at normal/recommended temperature washing, it doesn't come clean, and if you wash the garments at a high temperature or to many times the taped seams degrade and are no longer waterproof. So, after 6 months of use I went back to purchasing black jacket and trousers. Maybe in a country where it don't rain or get dirty, its fine, but for riding in Scotland it was not for me. Many thanks for your video.
Totally agreed with your colour of choices. Well I'm living in equator country. It's extremely hot throughout the year so I chose my jacket in light grey n pants is always black. Gotta compromise the stained n dirty factor hence choosing this combination. Good review videos always by u. Cheerz
personally i prefer black design, because it make me less worrying when going into dirt or mud, and it looks cool... but since I'm a night rider for most of the time, i will choose the gear that has the most reflective material, regardless it is dark or light.
I agree on the temperature swings. It is amazing how much cooler you feel when you are at 55 degrees and you go up or down how much the comfort changes. I am a black fan on gear. I have a mesh light gray and white and it shows dirt like crazy. I know you should wash these jackets more friendly but as much as I ride I just don’t have time to do that. Great review..
Yes ! Riding gear has always been a very controversial issue, depending upon the personal preferences of an individual . But me personally thinking and currently using a white grey combination for my riding jacket in summers, with a black and grey riding pants. A dark military green jacket for the winters but no black colour for me, as I am a bit superstitious about colours.
I use a light jacket, but I protect it with an exterior scotchgard and only have to wipe it down with a damp cloth, it also helps with water repellent. I think having some hi viz in your jacket is best with either dark or light. I think the more important fact about safety is the color of the helmet, studies have shown White or even better a Hi Viz wearing riders end up less on the lists of non fault crash = dumb car drivers.
surface temperature of light vs dark gear can be quite significant. depending on the material (helmets, jackets etc) but some tests have shown helmets can vary 50 degrees on surface temps, and 10 degrees internal temps, on same model helmets. just being white vs black. So it is a bit more than 3-5 degrees. visibility i think is also really important. twlight or early morning, country road, or a gravel track... little bit of visibility can really save your bacon in the rare situation someone else is out there. on the road. more so
I had a light-coloured suit once. It got very dirty and stained and was impossible to get properly clean. Like you, I prefer a little bit of extra heat from the winter sun and live with a bit of extra heat in the summer.
Light color is always more visible. That shouldn't be debated at all. Hi-viz even better. As for dirty, both get equally dirty but, it is less visible on the dark. As for comfort, color makes big difference in extreme climates. 2-3 degrees mean a lot either in cold or hot. As for looks, either can look good. Really more matter of taste and preference. Because I live in hot climate and for visibility, I prefer light colors but, I think that dark gear looks better in general.
I prefer black or dark colors but always with some yellow patches and reflective patches too. White will be too dirty too soon especially with all the bugs and insects hitting you while driving in the summertime. But since you got it for free it's okay and it will make you stand more out in your videos.
Well... If it works for you, then no need to force you to change your opinion. My opinion is that if it is cold, I can always add a layer but I cant remove any layer when it is hot. Light is always better visible on the roads, it does not merge with asphalt. If you look right against sun, there no difference betwen dark and light, but how often it happens? Anyway, thank you for another great video which forces people to use their brain more. You force them to think about stuff and balance pros and cons. And thank you for that.
Pavlin, I like dark pants and a light jacket. Best of all. Pants get dirtier. So black. Jacket is cooler and more visible. I just hand wash and drip drying
I have a black rev’it jacket, just as your previous one. It has some reflective materials. But, riding on a dark colored bike and with a matt black helmet not the savest option I’m sure 😅. Looks before function... Most of the times I wear a high vis vest over it . But not when it’s hot, the vest blockes the ventilation holes. Ride safe!
Hi Pavlin, Thanks for your point of view re riding gear. Can you please write with which product you are washing goretex and how? Maybe there is some video about it? Thanks and stay safe!
Thanks for another nice presentation. Good to see myself in the video. I like light color. In fact, any color gets dirty and the dark color only hides them longer. So I want to see the dirt and clean them more frequently to look fresh. Is that a elevated rail track in the backdrop of your video?
how is the slide lock on the pants for you ? I have the same pants and after one year of casual use, one of the 3 snaps holding the part on the flap just tore through the material ... I am curios if I am a singular case or not
Zdrevite Mr.Pavlin I am very curious to know about BÜSE Sympatex clothes, so do you have any reviews or feedback on this brand ? I am asking you because i am interested on tham, thay looks to be well made, and price is quite afordable in compere to KLIM or REVIT. Thanks a llot and best regards Afrim from Skopje 👍
The suppliers should come up with high visibility removable arm, back covers; black jacket looks clean and you can periodically wash / replace the covers.
Hello,🏍 this is my first message for your channel from Japan. I enjoy watching your channel. I am also very interested in reading many comments frrom riders of overseas.Thank you!😊こんにちは。初コメです日本から。このチャンネル楽しんで観ています。多くの海外ライダー達からのコメントを読むことも、とても面白いです。有難う！
Hello Sir Could you please suggest which one to choose and why 1. The Revit jacket you are wearing in this video 2. Jackets such as Helite or Hit-Air with integrated cartridge inflated safety airbag
Wondered why you had switched to the lighter colored jacket (which I don't like the look of as well). Think I will stick with dark colored pants, but willing to look at at least grey (with brighter highlights and reflections) for an up-graded jacket, and a helmet with brighter colors (currently black), for better visibility. Recently learned a hard lesson about not wearing proper boots, but fortunately it's just a short delay in the riding season, which is far too short as it is! Thanks for this kind of video, Pavlin....ride safe!
My opinion : Use bright color with complementary color pattern if you think motorcycle riding gears as safety equipment. Or, feel free to choose any colors you like such as matching color with your motorcycles, or dark colors if you focus more on fashion.
I love light color. orange, lime, cyan are preferable. I agree, light color get dirty easily. Shop around me put an exclusive price for white color, twice expensive than the others. And its rare people produce such gear, as people mindset is black is cool. Dark or black easy to get at any shop, common price. I don't mind wearing dark as the bike color and helmet is in light. But, dark color is self baking in hot summer. As road user, l never like everything in black it just like my shadow, no one care. Have been not wash my black jacked at home, but at the road when raining. Actually it get dirt too, but masked by the color.
In the rain light colour gets really dirty, so i use my rain jacket on top of revit jacket in rain. Pockets and sleeves do not become clean after 3years.
Agree It would be interesting to see an experiment comparing the internal temp of same jacket in same temperatures with light vs dark. Good tips to not look dirty or look like a POWER RANGER 😆
There is this video ruclips.net/video/4IoJbzr2rK8/видео.html , but there should be more . There's very little difference between black and light color , the venting scheme is more important.
I think it’s much about fashion, Your light colored jacket looks better and you really looks like a “motorcycle adventurer” in it. But than of course you are a motorcycle adventurer regardless of the color on the jacket. Like you I’m not sure that the light color always is more visible than the dark color, you can see it in the picture with the gray and the blue jacket in the end of the video . But the safety is not about the color of the jacket it’s how you ride. I think you have said it in a lot of your videos “Always act as you are invisible, being visible is no guarantee that people sees you”. (Maybe not exactly that phrase but close enough) It may sound like a cliche but when it comes to safety the safest riding gear is the one that you wear. I think the best is to buy the clothes that gives you the biggest smile and always ride with the gear on
Well with bright you see when it's time to wash it... Not washing gore-tex is also bad for since dirt, sweat and fats are bad for both membrane and fibres, or so I've been told.
Light colours arhie the way to go, I use the MTech Adventure Jacket in mixed tones like your Revit one, I'm about to get matching pants as I'm in Western Australia, were light is best, guys wear black and think it's cool, it's not, but ok for pants only .
Dark with refective 3m tape your jacket is actualy camo colours for snow camouflage or dazzle camouflage colours used in second world war on ships and planes! , designed to break up outlines and trick the eyes !
i prefer dark only. with reflective stripes it has no cons. as bright i leave to pizons and washing lowers those who wash and vax the bike everyday and dust is defect :D
Interesting, for many years I wore hein gerrick gortex and the quality of the brand today in my opinion is not as good,now I wear furygan black with white hi-viz strips very warm and good fit it's always cold here in Ireland and I'm not a young man lol,,,,, I always wear a white crash helmet my motorbike has two hi-viz strips on the front and of course the head light is always on ride safe everyone regards from Ireland ☘️👍
In my opinion the black looks better on video. It "pops" too much and is distracting to me. I also think black looks better, is more relaxing to the eyes and cool like Fonzie.
Why 99% of riding clothes are fookin black or black and something mix? It doesn't make sense!! Its so hard to find white/light tan/brown or light in general jaclet etc it makes me crazy. Light stuff makes so much more sense. So much less heat in the sun, and where bikers are riding tje most? In fookin sunny places around the world!
I split the difference on my new purchase. Recently buying a new jacket and pants that are light brown (KLIM Badlands). Will see after these travel restrictions subside here in Canada. The last set of gear of was a grey mesh jacket and pants, with removable waterproof and/or quilted liner, was a super poor choice. While riding in the desert in temperatures of 120F (49C) and just riding with the mesh I suffered from heat stroke. That was not a fun 2 days. Should have taken your online course earlier where you explain the reason why this was a super poor choice and was a BAD BAD potential life threatening choice. Your words "dry up like a small fish" made me laugh when I heard it and resonated through my head when I bought my girlfriends jacket.
I care about none of the pros and cons. Only thing I care about is to get the best quality and functionality I need, for the best price. No jacket ever has made me feel safer, or more visible, or something like that. Doesn't matter all that much if you're a hi-viz daddy or not if you don't have good habits, decent riding skills or make improper decisions. Plus as far as crash statistics tell us, most accidents don't even involve another vehicle if I remember correctly. So mainly, color is the least of people's problems. Best gear for the best price you can afford is the way to go for me at least.
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Hi Pavlin. Always picking the alternative side of things...I enjoyed the video, honestly. I can understand how this can be a personal opinion issue. However another factor for each rider to consider is the country one lives and rides most of the time, because for instance in Greece even 3-5 degrees may play a role. Also I would suggest that it depends on whether or not you are going off road a lot or just a bit. Anyway, after many years of dark colored jackets I just got a light grey one for reasons of visibility and safety mostly but also perhaps as a sign of shifting taste. Pants is a whole different story. Dark, dark, dark! Cheers!
Thanks for taking the time Velerio!
I know right. The white helmet makes such a difference riding in GR.
I live in Brazil and ride all over South America. Here the weather is to much hot (except in Patagonia and Andes). White gear is beter (white, gray, whatever...). The last trip to Patagonia, I took 2 BMWs jackets with me (summer Air flow and Winter & rain enduroguard), it worked very well. The temperatura ranged from 42° to 0º (summer time).
Motorcycle clothing has come a long way in the 40 or so years I have been riding. How the jacket and trousers are made is more important than the colour. I learned this having lived in countries where for much of the year the temperature is below freezing.
About 10 years ago I stopped wearing black motorcycle clothing. I found that people I encountered who were not bikers reacted in a more positive way if I did not look like a "scary biker". This can be important when travelling on adventures.
The warmest motorcycle jacket I own is a BKS Endeavour. It is pale grey (mostly). If the air temperature gets above +5C I get too hot even with the vents open so only use it in winter.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing your experience Henry!
Like the video, and I agree with you on many points, but...
In fact - white is not only colder when it is hot, it is also warmer (or less cold) when it is cold outside!
This may come as a surprise to many, and seem weird, but the reason is the radiation balance. There is an energy balance between object that can “see” each other, and the surface of an object decides the level of thermal radiation communication. In the winter, moat things are cold, very cold, the ground, the trees, the sky...
In a dark room, totally isolated from the world outside, objects with different temperatures will finally reach the same temperature, but it goes faster the closer the surfaces of the objects are to true black body surfaces.
So in most winter situations, a white clothing is actually warmer, because it radiates less of your body heat to the surroundings. A very sunny winter day the difference is less, but typically white is still the winner when it comes to keeping warm.
That said, you are absolutely right when it comes to keeping it clean. White gear suck! White helmets being the exception, due to the glossy surface. And actually/therefor, regarding heat, I would say that the helmet is the most important thing to have in bright colours. A black helmet in city traffic a hot and sunny day is no fun!
Best regards, Hugo (who are a physicist, and... wears red! 😉)
Thanks for the explanation Hugo!
Thanks Pavlin! You are the best when it comes to minimizing the confusing BS that comes with consumerism, getting right to the real world practicality of things. Please never loose this in your reviews and opinions.
With regards to temperature and dark versus light gear, I find that it only makes a difference at low speeds (under 25MPH or 40KPH) or stopped. With faster moving air, the surface of the jacket will match the air temperature so it doesn't matter.
I ride mainly higher speeds on the street for leisure. I don't spend much time at slower speeds. I don't commute and rarely have to deal with traffic. I also don't ride highly technical off road. As a result, I prefer black rid of NG gear for durability and looking cleaner. If it looks cleaner I don't have to wash/clean it as much which makes it last longer. Good point about the GoreTex warranty. I never thought of that.
I have two outfits I mainly wear. I have a light mesh suit made by Revit. I only wear it if temperatures will stay above 85 degrees F (30C). I hardly ever wear it because I rarely ride in weather that stays that hot all day. Usually it gets cooler at higher elevation or in the morning. It gets dirty easily and also the mesh is a compromise to abrasion resistance in a crash. As a result, I only wear this outfit maybe 10% of the time at most. The only time I really needed it was riding in the summer in Arizona with Temps in the high 90s (35C+) in the morning! I would never ever do that again if I have a choice!
The other suit is a black 3+ season leather/mesh/waterproof suit that I wear 90% of the time. When it is warm and I stop, I take off the jacket immediately so I do not over heat. I try to keep it in the shade so it doesn't get hot. When it is time to ride again, I wait until the last minute to put it back on and start riding as soon as possible.
In very hot temps, I use a wet cooling vest to keep me hydrated and cool and I also prefer cotton/polyester blend T-shirts (Puma makes nice ones) in hot temps as opposed to full polyester which is much hotter and less breathable.
For visibility, I recommend high visibility vests and/or helmet and treating the bike for visibility rather than light colored clothing unless money is no concern. I have a white helmet, reflective stickers, and blinking LED brake and turn signals. I probably should also get a high vis vest for some riding conditions.
Thanks again for all the sensible tips and information you provide. Stay safe my friend. I would love to ride with you one day. I live in Colorado USA.
Thanks for taking the time and sharing your opinion Gil!
My advice on visibility is take a flash photograph of the garment under consideration. The one with the most reflective materials becomes instantly obvious and in low light conditions the car headlights with light you up like a Christmas tree. I had a day-glow fluorescent jacket once with no reflective panels and a dark grey and blue jacket with fantastic reflective sections on seams, shoulders - front side and rear and on the arms and waist - the dark jacket was better visibility. Use your camera flash you'll be safer.
All modern jackets got a good reflective panels.
I like your Revit Jacket on that color.
Actually any color gets dirty the same. The light one Will show it faster than the dark one.
Thanks for the washing tip for the goretex products.
I was planned to say that but I forgot!
The stains are almost impossible to get out of white areas on clothing
Another great video, I find that bright colours on sunny days like he discussed does not help that much for visibility. I rather rely on the many safety tips example, lane placement, having an exit strategy for intersections. And following Road strategies that will keep you safe if used and practice them. But on grey rainy days I like to put on a hi visible vest. Just to add another level of safety.
Totally agree!
May be only at night bright colors may work
Thanks bruh, my doubt got clarified. I have a black colour riding gear from Solace, was to change with grey colour gear from Solace too, but I was unsure whether or not to go for the exchange. I am now clear and would stick with black one. Thanks a million again ❤
OOOOKay - I have a white Icon DKR Raiden jacket (official color is Glory). Except for black patches from elbows down. As a result... on a hot sunny day, my forearms are melting, especially in slow/stationally trafic. The difference in thermal comfort, or lack thereof, under the black patches is staggering.
In winter... it doesn't matter what the color is and I rode in humid 3 degrees Celsius on a highway. After the trip, I got a cheap electric vest from Amazon :)
You can always heat yourself up, but you can't do much to cool yourself down.
Thanks for taking the time!
I agree with you, very good advice, as for me, I use lite colors, and just don't wash them much so I don't compromise the gore-tex. Thank you my friend. Good luck and good rides
My pleasure!
Your advice/ opinions are very practical and logical ☺️🙏
Glad you think so!
@2:35 that only works if it's a sunny cold day. If it's cloudy, raining and windy ... mmm not so much. It's the UVs that warm dark clothes faster, no UVs no advantage for the dark clothes. Also, if your cold you can get an extra layer for those 3 degrees, if your too hot in dark clothing, there's only so much you can take off ...
I am not here to argue. This is my opinion and I stand behind my words.
For me the best colors of gear are sand, brown, olive it looks good and i don't have to worry about dirt, dust, mud etc
Good.
Have to agree with this.
I like to have a light color for my helmet. For me it makes a noticeable difference on hot sunny days. The jacket is black with reflective applications and wide neon yellow bands on the sleeves. The contrasts help with visibility. For me the jacket does not feel too hot even on bright summer days. My riding pants are dark too. Some dirt and insects still leave clearly visible stains. If I do not expect rain, I simply select riding jeans that can be washed without problems. I think that situational awareness is more important for my safety than the color of my gear.
I wash my Goretex gear with liquid washing soap after a few months ( depending on how much I sweat in it). Even after a couple of years it does not leak.
Thanks for taking the time Max!
I have ridden for 7 years now and in my experience I have to say colors like reflective yellow and orange are best for motorcycle gear. Yes it does not look cool, but is very visible and dead guy are not cool either. I was with my car one day, and the only thing that I saw in the rear view mirror was a motorcyclist with an orange jacket. The black version is not visible in during the day and is invisible during the night. The white one can be visible in the dark, can be visible in the day, but when you ride in a cloudy day or at the twilight you will be invisible. The most bright colors are yellow or orange. I personally tested riding with yellow vest, hunting orange vest and no vest. With no vest car drivers didn't saw me and they don't let me pass, but when I was wearing the vests there where 3 cars ahead that made me room to pass. Of course you can find a blind driver, but the chances are less. Soo, I personally don't care about the color of my jacket, because I will always were my orange vest. you can also put on you bike reflective tape stickers. :) Ride safe.
Thanks for sharing!
Using black Rukka equipment with reflective applications since more than a decade, but wearing a white helmet. What do you recognise first of a motorcycle rider? Its the helmet (and of course the motorcycle). And just one suggestion for minimizing the dirt on your combination: After washing it use a good impregnation. Properly applied it will keep (1) your stuff dry and (2) the dirt is easier to remove without washing.
Thanks for taking the time Teo!
Another great video thanks. I do wash my Richa gear in the washing machine, cold with little detergent. and slow spin. Sometimes I add Nikwax to it but. Have been washing my gear 4 times a year. Never had any problems. I ride 15K miles a year and worn it 3 years now. It does get old and some of the seams and pockets have little holes but still ok for daily commute.
Thanks for sharing!
Great video! I got quite a bit out of this. Living up north (Scandinavia) the heat absorption argument ( dark material > black) weigh heavily for the many. Rukka is a big seller and also been my choice for the last 4yrs. I chose black and it's been as good as I hoped it would. Yet a sweltering experience in summer, if one rides south in Europe. I have to bring a separate set (mesh based) when riding in the south. It works, but it also means more weight and more luggage. Rukka is perfect for Nordic conditions, sub-par for southern. In the process of considering alternatives. Your points are therefore valuable. Cheers.
I like the quality of the Rukka but as you mentioned they are not really good for hot climate. The ventilation is not good.
@@motorcycleadventures Their new top model is better. But at least here the set cost an arm and a leg, and then some.
I think this is strange, the black don't really help since the cold days are usually not that sunny anyway, but the visibility is often much reduced due to gloomy dark weather. Maybe not for summer riders but... /Swede.
Most of my ridding is a Cruiser on back mountain roads maybe %25 on main roads, freeways and in towns.
I've been a long haul trucker so have a lot of experience looking at bikes, Motorcycles and CRAZY 4 wheelers.
Color on a rider and the bike helps but it seems the most important object for visibility is the helmet
Thanks for your wisdom
I agree about the helmet.
I like the lighter gear because it MIGHT make me more visible in a sea of black, and therefore safer.
Wash in machine with Nik wax cleaner. No problems.
Great to be able to ride again! Happy travels
Yes, the right word is" MIGHT"!
As always different views from your experiences. Thank you 😊
My pleasure!
Wow 650 videos! 👍 The good thing it's that most of them are very usefull! Keep up the good work! I agree with the lighter colours, I personally started with a white helmet for the same safety reasons.
Glad you like them!
I bought a Alpinestars Patron Jacket on purpouse in black/neon as it was on Sale and you can skip a riding vest. Its not really a light color but at least its neon on the top. I don't care if the colors don't match my KTM, safety first! Concerning weather, I don't care if its hotter or not...I am riding and I need a safety jacket.
Thanks for watching man!
Good advice as usual. Congratulations on your unbiased opinion of sponsored products!!
Glad it was helpful!
I there, over here in Madrid, Spain I use black color only. Dont like white.....gets dirty just from looking to it but I agree that white colors the jacket looks nicer. And its funny because I just boght for the first time a Revit jacket for the summer color black....never had anything from Revit and for me its a very nice surprise....price/quality very very nice....they got a new client.
You will be happy from REV'IT!
I've always preferred light colours when riding as it gives more visibility. Also Ive just ordered Held Hakuna 2 adventure jacket and trousers. Got the jacket already and I feel it makes me more visible on the road compared to dark coloured jacket Inused before.
Cool! Enjoy your new gear!
If you're too cold, add another layer or slow down to lower the wind chill. If get stuck in traffic on hot tarmac, 5 degrees could keep you from having a heat stroke. Light colored gear makes the most sense where I ride.
Okay, then use it.
What about undergarments? Do you wear regular trousers under your riding gear?
No. When it's very cold I have thermo underwear.
Thanks for the reply. Great channel 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
I am glad that it helps!
I have a black Aerostitch and I always wear a mesh reflective yellow and orange vest. The more current style on a jacket, the sooner it will go out of style. All black is classic.
True
To be really visible, one of the best option is a yellow or orange vest...on your black vest :) ....it may not look fancy but everybody can see you...:))
True
Hi Pavlin, I will throw in my 5 cents. I am in Australia and for the most part, I like bike jackets/coats that are mostly black but I don't mind if they have grey bits or even some white bits, but I do like some kind of highly reflective markings/text on the back, sides and some on the front of my bike coats. My bike is black so I like to have the extra visibility from speeding cars coming from behind me when I ride at night. The heavy coat matches my requirements and is what I ride with in winter but the light one is black with some highly reflective stuff - that is my summer coat. I have fitted extra bicycle reflectors to my KLR and I think they work quite well but who knows. As for cleaning Gore-tex coats, I don't but I do give the highly reflective bits a wipe over with a damp rag occasionally. Otherwise, my coats only get washed when it rains.
Thanks for spending the time Dave!
Thanks for taking on the topic! I think it’s helpful to examine more closely what has become conventional advice and you’re willing to open up those cans of worms😎
Glad it was helpful!
There is one and only pro for light gear (and white helmet) and all other pro's and con's are not important. You look like Empire stormtrooper! And this is priceless :D
Cool!
Living near the equator it very hot all year, so only wear white jacket and solid white Shoei helmet. Hard to find solid white helmets in other brands. Revit has best options in white or silver jackets.
Use whatever suits you.
Hi Pavlin! It really is a matter of personal opinion. I prefer the light color for visibility. LAst year I have purchased a jacket from Oxford it is Montreal 2.0 in sand color. And I still keep a high viz ribbon in the luggage for the night riding, or when it is really dark and rainy. Washing is not such a big issue if you know your apparel and the care instructions are followed correctly.Thank You for sharing experience
Thanks for sharing!
I have used black jacket and trouser for 35 years and the first time I bought light jacket and trousers I wished I didn't after about 6 months of use. It gets dirty VERY quick and looks disgusting, and when others look at you, they think your are smelly person. This makes you wash the garments more often, and at normal/recommended temperature washing, it doesn't come clean, and if you wash the garments at a high temperature or to many times the taped seams degrade and are no longer waterproof. So, after 6 months of use I went back to purchasing black jacket and trousers. Maybe in a country where it don't rain or get dirty, its fine, but for riding in Scotland it was not for me. Many thanks for your video.
Agree!
Like the video , i wear black gear with black helmet.White light gear with white helmet .
Thanks for sharing!
Totally agreed with your colour of choices. Well I'm living in equator country. It's extremely hot throughout the year so I chose my jacket in light grey n pants is always black. Gotta compromise the stained n dirty factor hence choosing this combination. Good review videos always by u. Cheerz
Thanks for taking the time!
personally i prefer black design, because it make me less worrying when going into dirt or mud, and it looks cool... but since I'm a night rider for most of the time, i will choose the gear that has the most reflective material, regardless it is dark or light.
Fair enough.
I love your different perspectives. Me personally, I wipe down vs wash my jackets, and I don't mind the dirt.
Fair enough!
I agree on the temperature swings. It is amazing how much cooler you feel when you are at 55 degrees and you go up or down how much the comfort changes. I am a black fan on gear. I have a mesh light gray and white and it shows dirt like crazy. I know you should wash these jackets more friendly but as much as I ride I just don’t have time to do that. Great review..
Thanks for taking the time and watching it!
Yes ! Riding gear has always been a very controversial issue, depending upon the personal preferences of an individual . But me personally thinking and currently using a white grey combination for my riding jacket in summers, with a black and grey riding pants. A dark military green jacket for the winters but no black colour for me, as I am a bit superstitious about colours.
Thanks for taking the time Stan!
@@motorcycleadventures It is always a pleasure to be a part of genuine content on anything to do with motorcycles and it's peripherials.
Some gears like Rukka offlane which i now have you can take the inner liner with the gore tex off when washing or dont need it..
I prefer integrated gore-tex
I use a light jacket, but I protect it with an exterior scotchgard and only have to wipe it down with a damp cloth, it also helps with water repellent. I think having some hi viz in your jacket is best with either dark or light. I think the more important fact about safety is the color of the helmet, studies have shown White or even better a Hi Viz wearing riders end up less on the lists of non fault crash = dumb car drivers.
I agree about the helmet color.
I’m looking for safety and nice look and all in light color
Good.
Hi
Great video.
The black suit from Revit what's is the name/type and the light one?
Thanks
Poseidon GTX
You do a great job on your channel.
I appreciate that!
surface temperature of light vs dark gear can be quite significant. depending on the material (helmets, jackets etc) but some tests have shown helmets can vary 50 degrees on surface temps, and 10 degrees internal temps, on same model helmets. just being white vs black. So it is a bit more than 3-5 degrees.
visibility i think is also really important. twlight or early morning, country road, or a gravel track... little bit of visibility can really save your bacon in the rare situation someone else is out there. on the road. more so
The helmets are different story, they are closed with the clothes is not the same.
I had a light-coloured suit once. It got very dirty and stained and was impossible to get properly clean.
Like you, I prefer a little bit of extra heat from the winter sun and live with a bit of extra heat in the summer.
I know what you mean.
Light color is always more visible. That shouldn't be debated at all. Hi-viz even better. As for dirty, both get equally dirty but, it is less visible on the dark. As for comfort, color makes big difference in extreme climates. 2-3 degrees mean a lot either in cold or hot. As for looks, either can look good. Really more matter of taste and preference. Because I live in hot climate and for visibility, I prefer light colors but, I think that dark gear looks better in general.
Thanks for taking the time!
I totally agree. The worst is light colored gloves. They get dirty at the speed of light.
Thanks for sharing your opinion!
I prefer black or dark colors but always with some yellow patches and reflective patches too. White will be too dirty too soon especially with all the bugs and insects hitting you while driving in the summertime. But since you got it for free it's okay and it will make you stand more out in your videos.
Exactly!
Well... If it works for you, then no need to force you to change your opinion.
My opinion is that if it is cold, I can always add a layer but I cant remove any layer when it is hot.
Light is always better visible on the roads, it does not merge with asphalt. If you look right against sun, there no difference betwen dark and light, but how often it happens?
Anyway, thank you for another great video which forces people to use their brain more. You force them to think about stuff and balance pros and cons. And thank you for that.
My pleasure!
Pavlin, I like dark pants and a light jacket. Best of all. Pants get dirtier. So black. Jacket is cooler and more visible. I just hand wash and drip drying
Cool!
I have a black rev’it jacket, just as your previous one. It has some reflective materials. But, riding on a dark colored bike and with a matt black helmet not the savest option I’m sure 😅. Looks before function... Most of the times I wear a high vis vest over it . But not when it’s hot, the vest blockes the ventilation holes. Ride safe!
Yes, some pros and cons always.
Hi Pavlin, Thanks for your point of view re riding gear. Can you please write with which product you are washing goretex and how? Maybe there is some video about it? Thanks and stay safe!
Still didn't wash it, the rain to do it for me.
Thanks for another nice presentation. Good to see myself in the video. I like light color. In fact, any color gets dirty and the dark color only hides them longer. So I want to see the dirt and clean them more frequently to look fresh. Is that a elevated rail track in the backdrop of your video?
Yes, it is the S Bahn track.
I’m in Australia in the tropics. Black gear is bloody hot. And yet trying to get light coloured gear is near impossible.
Thanks for sharing!
man,excellent video,as always
I appreciate that
I did exactly what you did :) but with the Rev'it Defender! White and Grey with black pants.
Cool! Enjoy it!
how is the slide lock on the pants for you ? I have the same pants and after one year of casual use, one of the 3 snaps holding the part on the flap just tore through the material ... I am curios if I am a singular case or not
Zdrevite Mr.Pavlin
I am very curious to know about BÜSE Sympatex clothes, so do you have any reviews or feedback on this brand ?
I am asking you because i am interested on tham, thay looks to be well made, and price is quite afordable in compere to KLIM or REVIT.
Thanks a llot and best regards
Afrim from Skopje 👍
Dude this video is very entertaining n has good advice..tq
Glad you liked it
The suppliers should come up with high visibility removable arm, back covers; black jacket looks clean and you can periodically wash / replace the covers.
Sounds good but...
Hello,🏍 this is my first message for your channel from Japan. I enjoy watching your channel. I am also very interested in reading many comments frrom riders of overseas.Thank you!😊こんにちは。初コメです日本から。このチャンネル楽しんで観ています。多くの海外ライダー達からのコメントを読むことも、とても面白いです。有難う！
Thanks for taking the time!
Do Japanese people love riding and touring on bikes?
I have the Dominator 2 jacket as well...do you wear your elbow pads every time you ride?
If you mean the integrated in the jacket yes.
@@motorcycleadventures For some reason I thought they were removable. I appreciate your videos very much, by the way. Thank You!
Hello Sir
Could you please suggest which one to choose and why
1. The Revit jacket you are wearing in this video
2. Jackets such as Helite or Hit-Air with integrated cartridge inflated safety airbag
Definitely the Revit. Helite has the airbag, which is the best protection but only this, the jacket it self is not good at all.
@@motorcycleadventures Thanks for your time and inputs
Wondered why you had switched to the lighter colored jacket (which I don't like the look of as well). Think I will stick with dark colored pants, but willing to look at at least grey (with brighter highlights and reflections) for an up-graded jacket, and a helmet with brighter colors (currently black), for better visibility. Recently learned a hard lesson about not wearing proper boots, but fortunately it's just a short delay in the riding season, which is far too short as it is! Thanks for this kind of video, Pavlin....ride safe!
My pleasure Allen!
My opinion : Use bright color with complementary color pattern if you think motorcycle riding gears as safety equipment. Or, feel free to choose any colors you like such as matching color with your motorcycles, or dark colors if you focus more on fashion.
Thanks for taking the time!
I love light color. orange, lime, cyan are preferable. I agree, light color get dirty easily. Shop around me put an exclusive price for white color, twice expensive than the others. And its rare people produce such gear, as people mindset is black is cool.
Dark or black easy to get at any shop, common price. I don't mind wearing dark as the bike color and helmet is in light. But, dark color is self baking in hot summer.
As road user, l never like everything in black it just like my shadow, no one care.
Have been not wash my black jacked at home, but at the road when raining. Actually it get dirt too, but masked by the color.
Whatever you like many, whatever you like.
I still prefer dark clothing. You can always wear a hi-vis vest over the top and if you want to be more visible you can wear a white helmet.
Thank you for spending time on my channel!
In the rain light colour gets really dirty, so i use my rain jacket on top of revit jacket in rain. Pockets and sleeves do not become clean after 3years.
It is what it is.
At the end of the day its all down to personal choice.
I agree.
Agree
It would be interesting to see an experiment comparing the internal temp of same jacket in same temperatures with light vs dark.
Good tips to not look dirty or look like a POWER RANGER 😆
Thanks for taking the time Will!
There is this video ruclips.net/video/4IoJbzr2rK8/видео.html , but there should be more .
There's very little difference between black and light color , the venting scheme is more important.
Light Color, Thank You My Man
Any time!
I think it’s much about fashion, Your light colored jacket looks better and you really looks like a “motorcycle adventurer” in it. But than of course you are a motorcycle adventurer regardless of the color on the jacket.
Like you I’m not sure that the light color always is more visible than the dark color, you can see it in the picture with the gray and the blue jacket in the end of the video . But the safety is not about the color of the jacket it’s how you ride.
I think you have said it in a lot of your videos “Always act as you are invisible, being visible is no guarantee that people sees you”. (Maybe not exactly that phrase but close enough)
It may sound like a cliche but when it comes to safety the safest riding gear is the one that you wear. I think the best is to buy the clothes that gives you the biggest smile and always ride with the gear on
Thanks for taking the time!
Well with bright you see when it's time to wash it... Not washing gore-tex is also bad for since dirt, sweat and fats are bad for both membrane and fibres, or so I've been told.
True but over washing it is way more harmful.
I prefer the light colour, always had dark and it gets dirty anyway, but the price....... ouch 🤕
Light colours arhie the way to go, I use the MTech Adventure Jacket in mixed tones like your Revit one, I'm about to get matching pants as I'm in Western Australia, were light is best, guys wear black and think it's cool, it's not, but ok for pants only .
Well, whatever you like man!
Dark with refective 3m tape your jacket is actualy camo colours for snow camouflage or dazzle camouflage colours used in second world war on ships and planes! , designed to break up outlines and trick the eyes !
Interesting point.
i prefer dark only. with reflective stripes it has no cons. as bright i leave to pizons and washing lowers those who wash and vax the bike everyday and dust is defect :D
The same reasons to me.
Personally I use reflective white stripes jacket which looks like a police with inscription POLSKA. Believe me I am very visible on the road. ;-)
Thanks for taking the time!
I like the Hi Viz postie gear. It is a bit hard to look at but pedestrians wave at me.
Cool!
Interesting, for many years I wore hein gerrick gortex and the quality of the brand today in my opinion is not as good,now I wear furygan black with white hi-viz strips very warm and good fit it's always cold here in Ireland and I'm not a young man lol,,,,, I always wear a white crash helmet my motorbike has two hi-viz strips on the front and of course the head light is always on ride safe everyone regards from Ireland ☘️👍
Thanks for taking the time Brian!
Amazing advice
Glad it was helpful!
Good video.
Glad you enjoyed it
In my opinion the black looks better on video. It "pops" too much and is distracting to me. I also think black looks better, is more relaxing to the eyes and cool like Fonzie.
Everybody is different. Thanks for sharing!
Riding in Florida, wearing black seems invisible to the horrible drivers hear. The warmth is an issue as well.
Some drivers will always be blind!
Dark jacket with light border,, is best,,
Thanks for sharing your opinion!
Light, having had several close calls, unless you get the black that glows in the dark, very expensive.
Thanks for sharing!
I also think that darker colors are best for the same reasons.
Thanks for sharing your opinion David!
Pro tip - dont give a shit about dirt on white or light colored motorcycle clothes. Its utility gear. I wash mine maximum 2-3 times a riding season.
Exactly what I do.
if someone els pays for Your jacket every year, Light gear is better, for everyone els dark is much clever choice
True
Why 99% of riding clothes are fookin black or black and something mix?
It doesn't make sense!!
Its so hard to find white/light tan/brown or light in general jaclet etc it makes me crazy.
Light stuff makes so much more sense.
So much less heat in the sun, and where bikers are riding tje most? In fookin sunny places around the world!
It is what it is!
dark colors are better and the strong reason is ... I like it more... best wishes
Cool!
I split the difference on my new purchase. Recently buying a new jacket and pants that are light brown (KLIM Badlands). Will see after these travel restrictions subside here in Canada.
The last set of gear of was a grey mesh jacket and pants, with removable waterproof and/or quilted liner, was a super poor choice. While riding in the desert in temperatures of 120F (49C) and just riding with the mesh I suffered from heat stroke. That was not a fun 2 days.
Should have taken your online course earlier where you explain the reason why this was a super poor choice and was a BAD BAD potential life threatening choice. Your words "dry up like a small fish" made me laugh when I heard it and resonated through my head when I bought my girlfriends jacket.
Well, Paul, you learned the hard way this necessary lesson but look it from the bright side, you will never forget it!
👍 *INTERESTING VIDEO* 👍
Thanks for the visit
I care about none of the pros and cons.
Only thing I care about is to get the best quality and functionality I need, for the best price.
No jacket ever has made me feel safer, or more visible, or something like that.
Doesn't matter all that much if you're a hi-viz daddy or not if you don't have good habits, decent riding skills or make improper decisions.
Plus as far as crash statistics tell us, most accidents don't even involve another vehicle if I remember correctly.
So mainly, color is the least of people's problems.
Best gear for the best price you can afford is the way to go for me at least.
I agree with everything that you said!
I don't like light color for traveling or long ride. My best colors is gray or brown 🤓🏍🏍🏍🏍🤓
Fair enough!
Moral of the story? Pavlin likes to stay dirty!!! 😜
Not exactly but I really don't mind to be dirty while I travel.