The science of thinking deeply | Andrew Huberman and Lex Fridman
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- Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2020
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Huberman says he doesn’t know about something so he doesn’t say anything about it, more people need to do this
What do you mean so he doesn't say anything about it?
@@alphawavesready6639 he’s basically saying huberman might know about something but he himself might also say he doesn’t so he doesn’t have to speak on whatever it is. i do that sometimes.
Except that he did go on to talk about things he said he doesn't know much about.
This why I'm quiet. Lol
As long as you preface whatever you’re about to say as mere speculation then it’s fine.
Lex speaks about interesting ideas and has cauliflower ear, he is a walking contrast to everyday assumptions. I'm glad people like him exist
Wouldn’t big ears mean he’s a good listener? Or he fights in his free time lol
@@ProdbyTrehnt he’s practicing bjj
Walking contradiction, that man is..
Big departure from burger-eating-beer-drinking-golf-playing stereotypes
Here in the UK and in my experience anyway, a lot of people doing BJJ study or have PhDs.
Man. Now I'm thinking deeply about thinking deeply.
coming up with solutions after sleeping is so true, i would categorize it one of the most beautiful things we can experience..is just insane, you wake up, the problem quickly comes to your mind and boom in 20 seconds you figure out what you couldnt in a week
I have found my brain far more capable in my 40’s and 50’s than in my 20’s. One of the significant changes was that I was carb addicted for the bulk of my life, but fat adapted (keto) since my early 40’s. I find I can do much more, understand better, produce far better outcomes and not get stressed or as easily distracted. I can do things that I was incapable of when I was in my 20’s and 30’s. Maybe I’m just a late developer.
24 year old here. While I've been remiss with following Keto in the last few months, but I remember my mental faculties being greatly improved when I was fat-adapted.
You wake up with more energy, sleep better, your energy remains constant throughout the day, and cravings drop off significantly. Likewise my inclinations towards anxiety and depression seem to be much better moderated with this diet. Massively improves my day to day life.
Likewise if you're engaging in a 2/3/4/5 day fast, drinking only water w/ electrolytes added, the clarity is magnified even more. You can utterly dedicate yourself towards the days activities, knowing you don't need to stop for lunch breaks etc.
I hope to regain my fat-adapted state shortly to assist me as I kick off my career as a Software Engineer.
I’m 27 and have been kept for a year in a half and feel much clearer. But honestly even before That my mind changed a lot around 21 22, after going through a high stress period of 2.5 years where I worked almost everyday and an average of 55 hours a week but 70 hours was not out of the ordinary (including side hustles) I reached my cliff and took me about a year to a year and a half to get part of my sanity back but now my mind was way more organized in order and never procrastinated. It’s like a change in mental technique. Everything I take on comes with ease and very efficient. Whether it was starting my own buisness, learning to edit video, weightlifting, learning to code and program cars like bmw and Mercedes and so on. I have noticed I am becoming a lot more introverted (which scared me but am now learning to accept it) where as I used to be the biggest extrovert I knew. But taking on this diet has helped with stress and thinking clearer and enjoying my meals, taking food in as an experience instead of just something you cram into ur body and go.
I just wanted to write roughly the same and then found this comment.
Same here. Keto, meat, OMAD, fasting 50h straight once a week. 120h fasting once a month. Etc.
Oh ya I’m keto and boosted my iq 1000 points
It's fasting not fat that helps. Carbs for performance, keto for repair.
I just realized that the flow state I enter in when I make music is essentially analogous to the way I played with legos as a child.
Interesting. Any chance you have ADHD?
@@Ayra_Is_Cool_lol dont we all...
@@kedoubleone nah, not everyone. If I take a stimulant, mdma, ecstasy or molly, dexy, amphetamine, methylphenidate or concerta / Ritalin.
These won’t make me high, I can take 4 times the amount someone else will in any environment and I feel tipsy at best, at lower doses I feel very relaxed like I can read a book. These altered states last for maybe an hour at most for me. It can last up to 12 on others depending on dose.
@@kedoubleone 54 mg of Ritalin doesn’t alter my experience as all, at most it feels like nicotine or caffeine for about 15 minutes.
My friend was high for 6 hours
Your music is trash tho
Lex I'm really enjoying these clips about the mind. Thank you
Thank you so much, be always blessed 🌻
TBH, I feel more smart, more productive in my late 30s and now early 40s (I am 41 now) than in my 20s and early 30s. One of the reasons I can think of is I put a lot of effort into learning diverse topics. And now it has become kind of a habit to keep learning. I am guessing my neural wiring has changed for good.
Meditation increases that a lot
More productivity does not equal more intelligence. Your working memory is either worse or equal to your working memory in your early 20's.
@@thesavantart8480then what is being productive imply if it does not equate with intelligence?
Same here. For me its because I'm getting older and running out of time. So I focus more now in my 40s.
brain like any muscle work it or lose it.
but that goes for all muscles.
you peak out in your mid 20s but if you keep at it i wager it can improve like physical strength and speed can.
“It’s almost Meditative”. Absolutely!
my mind definitely worked "better" when i was 18 but i didn't have the knowledge base to pull from to do anything in research lol. also when he talks about how autonomic arousal causes rigidness in thinking, it makes me think of people who use adderall a lot, they tend to showcase that very rigid and linear style of thinking rather than creativity
Makes me think there should be a study on the effects of meditation on mental performance
Lex helps to make me better. Helps me to realize there is no me. Me no me.
I was still in data collection mode in my early 20s. That is, I was still trying to understand and put things together (medicine). The interesting thing about mathematicians, if it is true that they are at their best in their early 20s, is that they are well beyond that level. They are already applying and creating. Medicine requires knowledge retention, implementation, and revision. It's a continuous cycle of making mistakes, taking in new information, and revising cognitive maps. There aren't many final answers.
6:33 this moment where you take a step back to consider another way…. Reminds me of a video showing it’s exactly how AI can learn, constant adjustments, while for us I imagine it’s engaging frontal cortex through will, for AI it’s just the way to work through all problems.
Maybe someone can help me find this clip:
I’m looking for a clip of one of Lex’ podcasts, but I can’t remember who the guest was. It was a guy talking about psychological experiments where they put people in different groups (digitally I think), sometimes these groups were random and even made up, but people would always favor there in-group over the other group even when the group they we’re part of was just made up and had nothing but just a made up name.
Does someone know what I’m looking for?
@ 4:25 - "tunnel of thought" makes me think of Joe Rogan's new studio
This is gold
I simpler terms related to First principles is very aligned to(Scrum) Scaled agile product development.
Lex pointed to the problem i’ve always had with working memory and the idea that it lies at the heart of higher thought. when very smart people report on how they solved a particular problem, they never describe anything like juggling ideas around in their heads. somehow i doubt Einstein would have scored off the charts on some of these working memory tasks like dual N back.
He scored 160 (or 165) on an actal IQ test I believe, so I think it's safe to say he would have done quite well. :)
@@malprimitvs577 lol no
Nonsense. How do you think you can keep track of many, many variables and relationships between mathematical lines without having high working memory?
Working memory doesn't have much to do with intelligence? Yeah, no. It correlates extremely strongly with every single other known subfactor of g.
This idea that a mathematical genius wouldn't have strong working memory is hilarious
When you are trying to think of the next step forward, the way to solve the problem of the next algorith.ic step, you relinquish the logic brain and reenter the imaginative daydream state. With any creative enterprise you have to do this, keeping the rules of the artform present but not conscious in your mind whole you imagine the reconfiguration of your material. It's imagination of a configuration of code which conforms to the strict set of rules in the computer 'language' definition, which you then try, test, fail, reimagine. It's the activity of a hunter trying to use knowledge of the rules (hunting ground, prey's behaviour, weaponry) to obtain the desired result. Same process. The hunter doesn't question it. The hunter just tries, tests, fails, analyses, imagines a new idea, then tries again.
Please get Dr Dan Siegal on your podcast to discuss this topic
"The Conscious Time Traveler"-DW
We know he who has memory is from the past.
We know he who is aware is in the present.
Then we must acknowledge that he who is enlightened is from the future.
Damn, God really brought me here, because my mind can only connect to what Lex is saying most of the time, I literally understand exactly what’s happening in his mind and it’s humorous to me, I truly appreciate that I get to watch these videos.
So,you could be really intelligent but low working memory then you could be bad in Maths and programing and on other hand average Intelligence but great working memory you can be great in maths and programing.
But what basis ?
See,in maths or programming you have three steps involved .
1) Understanding small bits .
2)Associating small bits together.
3)Coming to a solution.
So,with poor working memory you get stuck on step 2.
unbelievable that YT no longer trusts us to choose to dislike a video. Lex and other YTers, please upload your videos onto at least one alternative video site - such as LBRY.
I'm happy I learned abstract algebra at age 20, cuz while I use it everyday, I don't have the mental energy to prove anything novel in algebra in my 40s.
Lex needs an interior designer . got dayum bro
Apologies, but my working memory and overall intelligence are much, let's say, 10,000% better now at the age of 33 than when I was in my twenties. I completely changed my career in two years, learning C++ for UE, Houdini, Python, VEX, math, and more.
While I hold the utmost respect for Huberman, I don't agree with him about age and cognitive abilities. Some of my friends share the same experience... they speak more eloquently, and their brains function much more smoothly at this age, 30-35, than they did in their twenties.The notion that mental abilities decline after 25 is just absurd.
If you have financial support and curiosity, and you're not too old, say 80++, you can learn whatever you want. The issue is about mental exhaustion, not age. My professor at the university learned Matlab and Python at the age of 81 in just three months because he had the gumption and will. Guys, Believing in yourself and curiosity are everything.
Eat healthy and do what you love. Cheers!
Thanks for this message mate
@@iBlackWolfZzYou're welcome brother, cheers!
"Allegory of Cave"-DW
Draw the curtains back on absorbent gazes. To ponder the flame and reason the blaze. Step by step venture towards, sometimes convex and sometimes forwards. Just as fire once lead astray. Now the path gives to the way.
This is great but i dont recognize it. Did you write it?
@@societyreborn33 Rodger Rodger
@@anismoc27 well it registers as superb and i want more.
Lex you need to focus on the problem then release the frontal cortex, relax on something else so other part of the brain process the info backwards, unconcius doing its thing, and then retake the problem. Listen to Barbara Oakley
Scent owl!!! Whoa ok!!! 💯🔥👁
Andrew, does Marcus’s brother work with you ?
that's a BIG red bull
Lex always on those sugar free redbulls
I love the topics Lex talks about but there’s something about his cadence that makes it hard for me to listen to him
you can turn the play speed to x1.25
❤️
Crystallized vs Fluid Intelligence
So if you are on your late 20 and above you no longer can do problem solving Oo ?
idk why watching this my mind wanted to focus on his ear it was trying me out hhaha
jack
This is a conversation people would have on mushrooms
pen
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I'm not destroy humanity I focus my present
What late into the night Mr Huberman, there has got to be a rationale for insomnia come now. 🦅
Put your mind out to pasture. Let your thoughts graze on muse.Drink from the spring of conception. While the conscious herd drifts through stimulating hues-DW
I love a good Hypnagogic state.
Could anyone please dumb this down for me? I feel like I dont fully grasp what they are saying.
There are some level of mentality, where you will understand this. Everything you need, be yourself and dont lie to yourself
thats the difference with theta 3 threw 5 hertz brain activity and 5 threw 8 or something. whats those magical inspirational artistic even moments not every one claimed obviously but obviousiem mm tomorrow
5:00
What about, duh... Thinking freely?
Creativity.
🦔
🙇♂️
First?
Congrats bro
Damn that’s so cool ur first 😎
@@enotdetcelfer hahah cheers 😂
Teach me.
If only I wasn’t thinking deeply.
jesus. that redbull is bigger than him
i wonder if lex is thinking about fluid intelligence
what is that
form of intelligence is fluid ? really ?
God exists! Impossible you think? Impossible = I'm possible
I see,said the blind man
Freudian slipping towards truth in the scientific arena?
A man is like a coin. He travels and has a story and there are 2 sides to every story.
He has a face, he has a birthdate, a language, and a God.
In one day his life is spent. Genghis Khan never allowed his image on a coin.- DW
Who is DW?
Its cultural
Format is not really good for this subject. The context is not there so that it’s a bunch of info that doesn’t have real meaning. Nothing about the subconscious for example even mentioned in this almost three hours.
"What is the meaning of Life"? ""And, can you answer without being mean"? Seems like psycho-babble ?
@@timothykieper he doesn’t actually have an answer to the meaning of life question, something about being nice
Lex “I’m not Joe fucking Rogan!” Friedman.
2 adds in a row without skip button?..I didn't know u can be this evil lex :(
If you don't have an ad blocker installed in the year 2020 you deserve to sit through midroll advertisements on every video you watch
Lex please don't say 'like' so often. Thank you
Lex over here trying to make ai and my man don’t even know what working memory is. Get wit da program dood
What a bunch of word vomit.