Street Fighter Zero 3 (Sega Saturn vs Dreamcast) Side by Side Comparison - Dual Longplay | VCDECIDE
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2021
- A Dual longplay of Street Fighter Alpha 3 between the Sega Saturn and Sega Dreamcast.
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- Technical data -
Full Game Name: Street Fighter Zero 3
Alternative Name: Street Fighter Alpha 3
Developer(s): capcom
Publisher(s): capcom
Release: 1999 (Saturn) 1999 (Dreamcast)
Comparative Region: 60 hz
Genre: Fighting Game
Mode: Single-player or Multiplayer (vs)
Dual Longplay by VCDECIDE 
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The audio is much cleaner in the Dreamcast but man the Saturn holds it own on this.
I'd have to pick the Saturn version simply for the controller.
Funny enough I use saturn controllers for The DC Capcom fighting games. Specifically on SF3 since the D-Pad movements are very smooth with that game.
The dreamcast has an even better hori 2d controller, but the saturn version is slightly better anyway
Controller on the Saturn is better , sprites are more accurate , better modes
Only thing dreamcast has over Saturn from what I understand is the special modes when selecting your characters style outside of the ism’s and when you do the reverse dramatic battle modes two different characters fight you simultaneously not 2 mirror characters. Which for example , fighting 2 Kens is easier then fighting let’s say ( which I know is a pair in the Dreamcast version ) Akuma and Cammy.
@Keith Courage RX-78-2 I agree that using stock controllers for measuring in-game performance (especially in a comparison video) is silly, but stock controllers being well-equipped for any type of game generally does help.
I also have the Retro-bit Saturn controller by the way, while it’s the best replication of it so far, it’s not quite 1:1. The D-Pad isn’t as rubbery and the L and R buttons don’t make the same type of contact. Not a major deal to me, but may be enough to put other people off using it. Certainly still miles better than using a Dreamcast controller though lol.
@Keith Courage RX-78-2 everybody keeps mentioning the Dreamcast Hori pad. All hve ever seen is the Ascii pads ? A hori commander exist on DC?
I'm no professional/tournament gamer, but I've never understood the hate for the DC version. I bought the PS1, DC, and Saturn versions from Japan all on release day. Even the PS1 version is very playable. Thanks for the side by side. If nothing else, it really shows how great the Saturn was with the 4MB expansion cart for these awesome Capcom fighters.
The Dreamcast version did not support 3x punch/kick buttons and had noticeable input lag alongside certain balance changes that made it play vastly different from the arcade version in certain ways. The input lag even affected SFA3U, a NAOMI version based on this early Dreamcast port. Additionally, only the online capable version had VGA support, and this version did not fix the input lag.
@theobserver4214 did alpha 3 max fix the input lag?
It's all about those missing T. Hawk backwards walking animations on Dreamcast. And apparently it has modified hit boxes.
Those T Hawk frames were actually not in the original Zero 3. They were added to the Saturn version and then when Zero 3 returned to Arcades as Zero 3 Upper, they were used there as well. Dreamcast not having them isn't a sign of inferiority, but it being an earlier revision compared to Saturn and Upper.
@TooManyThings_ Those extra T-Hawk frames are actually not present in the Naomi/Arcade version. They are present only on three versions; Saturn, PS2, and PSP.
Thanks from my heart for this video, the saturn and dreamcast both was close to the arcade, the best fighting game ever in 1998 ,days will never forget.
Eu tenho o SaturnO e o dreamcast ambos com arcade stick., mas por algum motivo que não sabia, sempre preferi o do saturno.... e obrigado!
Obs: Nunca tinha visto a fase Balrog Canal showw!!
KOF 98 kills SFA3
@@vasileios6301 wrong…..!
My two favorites are Street Fighter Alpha 2 and Capcom vs SNK but I like all Capcom fighters though.
@@CAPCOM784 SFA2 is much better than 3/
Capacidade do Saturno no 2 D impressionante, verdadeiramente era um arcade em casa
Infelizmente o Dreamcast teve pouco tempo de vida,praticamente nem chegou a ganhar uma segunda leva de jogos,apesar dos primeiros jogos alguns ter ganho destaque nunca saberemos o real potencial do Dreamcast,o Ps2 por exemplo se compara a primeira leva de jogos com a última chega a ser gritante a diferença,mas falando do vídeo parabéns VCDECIDE ficou ótimo,o port do Saturn conta com uma ótima jogabilidade e pelo que percebi alguns quadros de animação a mais,um belo port para o Saturn,mas na minha opinião são dois ports muito competentes principalmente do Saturn.
falou tudo, realmente o dreamcast tinha mais sangue pra dar!!!
Eu costumo dizer que o Dreamcast foi o projeto mais bem sucedido da Sega num histórico de decepções e prejuízos, infelizmente, mesmo com o breve sucesso, o Dreamcast não conseguiu manter a saúde financeira da empresa, ele foi lançado numa época muito problemática, todo mundo estava aguardando o lançamento do Playstation 2, visto o sucesso monstruoso do primeiro console, a Sony conseguiu fechar dezenas de parcerias com desenvolvedoras enquanto a Sega meio que bancava seus próprios títulos, mais ou menos o que a Nintendo faz hoje, mas sabe de uma coisa, apesar de que a Sega não fechou totalmente as portas, ela restringiu muito os seus títulos, focando apenas nos principais, Sonic, etc, eu sinto falta desses jogos estilão arcade sabe, tipo Crazy Taxi, House of Dead, Daytona USA, Virtua Fighter, etc, sinto que parte da história dos games morreu quando a sega encerrou sua divisão de desenvolvimento de hardware, realmente uma pena.
@@Giovani_Avelar_BR it wasn’t the fault of the hardware, the hardware could easily have won the console war, it was the company. Sega had lost the trust of its customer base through not supporting the 32X and then the Saturn when it stopped selling. Customers were understandably nervous that Sega would stop supporting the Dreamcast if it didn’t sell well enough and they were right because Sega did it yet again!
@@MarcusTDM infelizmente a Sega vacilou legal. As duas versões surram lindamente a do PS1! Toda vez que jogava ele no PS1, sentia que estava faltando alguma coisa. Jogo incrível nos consoles da Sega. Pena que não cheguei a jogar no SS e no DC. Mas só de ver já deu para ter ideia de como eram. Bom comparativo entre os SEGAs!
Gran Turismo 3 was on the first wave of PS2 games pal, neither Le mans 24 hrs is near to that masterpiece
Really small differences with Dreamcast having better sharpness and color saturation. But you really cant go wrong with any version. This is more a win for Saturn than DC.
The saturn has more animations though
I don't understand dumb comments like this, it's not like you can adjust this stuff in game or on your TV. Also this game is meant to be played on a CRT where colors and dark levels look much better.
Gameplay-wise the Saturn version is ALMOST arcade perfect. The sprites are the right size compared to DC and some custom combos on DC have weird and different timing.
“DuMb CoMmEnTs LiKe ThIs”
man... The Saturn really held its own!
The Saturn will alway be my most favorite system. So many good games. It's just such a shame that it wasn't as popular in the US as Japan. ...A Lotta amazing games that we never got over here...
On the first fight, you can already spot the diference between Hawk's walking backwards animation. He received an exclusive animation on the sega Saturn version where he makes an "X" with his arms in front of his body.
Yes, it is also in Upper version on PS2. But all other versions do not have it. It could be an artistic choice as it is only character with such an extra animation and they did not use this animation for him in SF4.
Did he do the x motion only on saturn? So in the arcade he had the hands out like the dreamcast version?
@@richardcarpenter24 This animation is taken from SF2 revisions and is only used in Saturn and PS2 versions. I guess the devs decided to streamline this aspect and not give this type of additional animation to any character anymore when they move backward.
Seu canal é muito bom, parabéns pelo ótimo trabalho!
Both the Saturn & Dreamcast versions are awesome. My absolute favorite version though is the PSP version, Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max. It was a FANTASTIC port on the PSP with some neat extras/exclusives. They added Eagle (Street Fighter), Yun (Street Fighter III), and Maki (Final Fight 2) who were originally exclusive playable characters in the GBA version to the roster and gave them their own unique storylines and endings, they also added Ingrid from Capcom Fighting Evolution as a playable character, in "Dramatic Battle" you can choose your 2 characters instead of only having Ken & Ryu from the outset, a "Variable Battle" mode was added where you can tag your partner in and out, and the "Reverse Dramatic Battle" mode from the Sega Saturn version where you continuously fight 2 characters at once, was also added. If you own a PSP it's quite literally a no brainer to own.
GBA had an excellent port
@@Haywood-Jablomie That it absolutely did. Phenomenal job bringing it to the GBA by developer Crawfish Interactive. Crawfish also developed the really solid GBC port of Street Fighter Alpha.
@@jediknightgeo Oh yes, I have the GBC Alpha 1 . I actually really enjoyed the music and the fast gameplay. Honestly, in maybe 1999 ish, I bought that GBC Alpha 1 for $19.99 on sale at ToysRUs and I really didn't feel like I was missing out on anything from the Arcade version. I was 15 at the time and I didn't have a 32 bit console so I was still playing Gameboy and I bought a NeoGeo Pocket Color not long after. The games were excellent ports.
@@jediknightgeo i didn’t get around to playing the GBC Alpha until I got an N-gage. Had a Gameboy emulator and tried out this rom. The box looked awful and got burned by the previous GB street fighter, and this was before youtube so couldn’t see it when I had a GBC to see if I wanted it.
Played the rom and it was the most surprising game. It was fantastic! Played so well.
@neogeomaster Well to be fair I never said the PSP version was the best, I said it's a fantastic version (which it is and by all accounts the most complete definitive console version of it) along with it being my favorite specific version. Of course the arcade version would be the absolute best one, it's the arcade.
Que máquina o Saturn era!
i think that this only shows the level of mastering capcom gather from years working with the saturn hardware.They really squeezed all the power from saturn and the 4mb cart.
Awesome! Dreamcast version seems to be displaying more and slightly more vibrant colors in the backgrounds but otherwise it's pretty neck and neck. Despite having lakcluster 3d abilities, the Saturn was the best of its generation for 2d.
The Sega Saturn was more than capable of doing solid 3d graphics for the time. It's just that it's complicated architecture made it difficult for developers to fully utilize it.
@@ringfitmaster3079 No I get that but even still its poly-pushing potential was still a bit lower than the competition. It had a slew of really cool visual effects tho like real shadowing that no one else had.
@@ailaxl I wouldn't call it is polygon pushing potential higher or lower. It was just different. Ps1 polygons are tri's while Saturn were quads.
I thought the Saturn had brighter backgrounds, while the Dreamcast had darker shadows creating more contrast.
Alex, if you look at the numbers, Saturn can actually push more polygons than PS1. It's just that it needs a seasoned gsme studio to do so.
1:47 YES MY BACKWARDS WALK TONY HAWK, thanks vcdecide.
Which one has the wrong walking animation ?
@@Haywood-Jablomie Not exactly wrong but Saturn has extra sprites for when T.Hawk walk backs (he raise his arms in front of his head), that means that the Dreamcast port has some cut animations for some reason.
@@SaikyoKoutei oh yeah, I didn't notice that. when he walks backwards in the Dreamcast it's the same as walking forward. LOL. okay thank you for pointing that out
I wrote that in a rap song two summers ago T Hawks backwards animation in the Saturn / arcade versions
Seu canal é um serviço pra humanidade, belos vídeos!
This makes me want mvc1 for saturn that much more. Perfect God level comparison video. Been wondering for years which one is better. SATURN in my opinion for controller and anims.
I think the original Marvel vs Capcom should've been the Saturn's last and final swan song. Instead we got trash like Final Fight Revenge.
this, having 6 buttons on one side than that dreamcast controller one, can't be replaced
The more I want that the more I realize the Saturn might not've been able to get an arcade perfect port even with the 4mb cart. There's tons of content in the game that calls for a dip in the sampling rate of all SFX, certainly lower than XvSF and MSHvSF. Not only that but IIRC MvC had to cut frames from some animations that were more fluid in previous titles for the sake of having 3 characters loaded into memory at all times. Just look at how hard the PSX version got hit; because of the cutbacks they had to make it's a completely different game with no way to play the standard arcade mode at all. Maybe Capcom could've pulled it ofif they went the route of a higher capacity RAM expansion but that late in the Saturn's lifespan would've been pointless.
@@Zontar82 I think ASCII released a 6 button fightpad for the Dreamcast. It's modeled after a Saturn controller, complete with Z/C buttons which the Dreamcast recognizes separately from the shoulders.
@@egg64 at least we got marvel vs street fighter, which is as awesome as MvsC imo. I get tons of fun playing it.
a versão do saturn é ótima.
inclusive é a que mais lembra a do arcade, provavelmente devido à resolução da tela.
U can tell this is light work for the good ole dream-cicle
Saturn did good as well.
Gosto muito das comparações...muito legal ver diferenças, detalhes, em alguns casos censura, potência, capacidade e efeitos...
Vida longa ao canal
6:39 That's why I play with a Sega Saturn controller on Dreamcast fighting games... 😉
T.hawk tem o tamanho bem menor na versão de DC, bom amigo vc e bem observador,e isso eu também ao longo dos anos e versões dos jogos queridos de todos nós, venho sempre comparando,e ao uso do RUclips, me identifiquei muito com o canal aqui VCDECIDE,top. Parabéns pelo trabalho que vem fazendo,nem todos vamos agradar.😀
O Saturn branco é uma das coisas mais belas q ja fizeram em termos de Hardware
The Sega Saturn version is all you need for that near perfect arcade performance & smooth transition :)
But it runs at a lower resolution like all CPS1 & 2 ports. It's considered one of the worst ports by competitive players.
And playstation 2 version lol
@@preamstrikbiz0 Yes, Alpha Anthology on PS2 is emulated but it's considered arcade perfect :)
@@RetrOrigin who says the Saturn port is the worst. No seriously I can’t find anyone saying that anywhere.
@@dreamcastspirit1386 Competitive players. Unfortunately the lower resolution results in the screen being cropped which gives an advantage to smaller characters that can almost "hide" outside the screen at the edges or corners. This of course was even worse back in the day where CRT overscan crops the screen even more. Since the lower resolution is a Saturn limitation, it affects every single Capcom CPS 1 & 2 port for that console.
Most people trying to defend the Saturn version are hardcore collectors trying to justify its price or casual players who don't really understand how a fighting game functions.
Nowadays there's no reason to buy or play any version prior to Alpha Anthology other than pure nostalgia or fanboyism for those older consoles.
Que legal cara, eu já conhecia esse canal mas nunca tinha reparado no nome, por coincidência hoje vendo um dos seus vídeos comparando a versão de Street Fighter Alpha da CPS2 com a CPS1 (CPS CHANGER) eu notei que o nome do canal estava em português, apesar dos textos e descrições estarem em inglês, daí eu fiquei desconfiado (ativei o modo mineiro kk) "ué, será que o dono desse canal é brazuka ?" kkk dito e feito, eu vi a sua postagem lá no canal do Liu Kang sobre a rom hack do Mortal Kombat, parabéns pela iniciativa, as suas comparações tiram a dúvida de milhares de pessoas no mundo inteiro.
Muy buen video comparacion, gracias por poner subtitulos quedo bien 👍
Muy bien el video y muy agradecido por la traducción al Español.
Vlw amigo! Obrigado pelas explicações.
Ótimo vídeo como sempre!
Hay más colorido en la versión dreamcast y el tiempo de carga es menor, no obstante, la versión de Saturn está muy lograda y los personajes se ven ligeramente más grandes.
Para mí es un empate en toda regla, las dos versiones son estupendas!
Gracias por el video!
The dreamcast version has all the arcade frames of animation.....saturn version was released very late and they added some touches as a bonus. T.Hawks beackwards walk animation is but one of them. The timing of thje release is the only reason there are more frames, but the saturn release is legendary and still the best home port(because it runs 240p too).
352x224 is not 240p.
Tá aí uma comparação que eu sempre quis ver 👏👍 a minha versão favorita desse jogo é o Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max do PSP (e o meu Street Fighter favorito), por causa dos extras e personagens a mais 👍
Acho legal fazer uma comparação de um mesmo jogo na geração passada para geração atual para ver se evoluiu e o quanto que foi.
Always play on DC version but SAT version is so impressive too ! If any difference there are, I don't see them ! Perfect arcade port on both machine for me.
A versão do Sega Saturn é impressionante até hoje! Muito bom
They both look and sound great. That music was thumping. That's what you need to hear in a arcade fighting game. Other than some cosmetic differences in the menus and Saturn's health bars has that semi transparent look. However it's the gameplay that matters.
Don't forget the loading. Dreamcast has no loading, while the Saturn has a slight pause going from match to match. Not a big deal, but shows how powerful the Saturn was to do SFA3 with barely any loading.
@@KoolKeithProductionsagreed
I own both versions. They’re both great, but the Saturn version is better. The Saturn version has many more modes, and it isn’t missing any animation frames. For example; T-Hawk is missing his backwards walking animation in the Dreamcast version. The Dreamcast version also doesn’t control as well. There’s a reason the Saturn version sells for $400+ and the Dreamcast version only sells for $100.
I wonder why it’s not as good on superior hardware?
@@jshepherd1102 The Dreamcast version came out first and it was rushed. The game came out many months later on the Saturn. All of the flaws were fixed and new game modes were added. The hit detection on the Dreamcast version is also way off.
I still can’t believe the Dreamcast version now is $100 for the longest time that was like a $20-30 game
Also the dreamcast version came out in different countries, and the Saturn only in Japan making it more rare and expensive
That’s not missing animations, t-hawk animations are not in the arcade. The aspect ratio is wrong on the Saturn. Do not oversell the Saturn version. The only reason for its price is it’s rarity not superiority. The ps2 version beats it by a mile.
Saturn is more natural in terms of color. The sound is compressed. Stage backgrounds are farther out.
Dreamcast has vivid colors and dark shadows. The sound is louder and crisp. Details are more noticeable on sprites. Example being the ripples on Fei-Long's pants. Loading is faster. The backgrounds are slightly zoomed in. Also the life bars has a blend of colors rather than the Saturn's yellow.
I have both versions but for those that want some info of what to expect here.
The Dreamcast is not 128-bit. It's running a 64-bit CPU. The operating environment of all it's games are therefore 64-bit.
The Dreamcast’s CPU, Hitachi SH-4, is a 32-bit CPU. The GPU, PowerVR CLX2 may have been 128-bit (some of its contemporary competitors, like ATI’s Rage Pro 128, definitely were). Not that any of this matters - processor register size is the worst way to define a console’s power and only made sense for a short period of time in the late 80’s/early 90’s (if even then).
É pessoal, lembro que esse foi o último grande título do Sega Saturn, curiosamente era o início do fim do dos fliperamas tb, diferente dos jogos anteriores (SF Alpha/Zero e Alpha/Zero 2, na época nem saiu a versão americana pro Sega Saturn (SF Alpha 3), eu reparei isso tb nos fliperamas, lembro que os arcades de SF Zero 3 não foram distribuídos em larga escala para as cidades do inteiror, como era comum na época.
Realmente era raríssimo achar nos nossos fliperamas o Street Fighter Alpha 3. Mas os dois últimos fliperamas da Capcom no Brasil que me recordo é justamente esse e Marvel vs. Capcom. Apesar de ambos muito difícil de achar, mesmo em grandes centros.
O último que era mais fácil, que me recordo, foi o Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter.
Semelhante o KoF, lembro de ver 98 e 99, mas o último popular foi o saudoso 97.
Igual a série Cruis'n, cheguei a jogar o Exotica de 1999, mas era raríssimo, o que tinha em boa quantidade e depois de anos ainda encontrava de vez em quando foi o World.
Hoje em dia quando encontro é só o USA, que lotou os fliperamas na época.
1997 foi o último grande ano relevante dos fliperamas brasileiros.
Nunca vi arcade do sfz3 no brasil
@@oatmeal7818 Rapaz, eu cheguei a jogar SFZ3 num fliperama de rodoviária no centro de Vitória, essa foi a única vez que eu vi um fliperama de SFZ3 da CPS2, mais raro ainda era a versão SFZ3 Upper da placa NAOMI GD-ROM, essa provavelmente só chegou em São Paulo e Rio de Janeiro.
@@ventura3600 Aqui em Belo Horizonte/MG, lembro que o último jogo da CAPCOM distribuído em larga escala foi Marvel vs Capcom.
@@ventura3600 Lembro do Cruis'n Exotica no fliperama, mas esse tipo de arcade era mais instalado em lojas de Shopping.
Tem como fazer um vídeo do jogo Front Mission? Saiu para SNES, PS1 e GBA
Mais um excelente vídeo.
Olha que vídeo top em ,parabéns....gostei das explicações e não sabia das curiosidades mas confesso que fiquei curioso em saber qual animação o personagem T.Hawk tem no Saturn que não tem no sega DREANCAST.
Além de um frame ou outro a mais a andadinha pra trás do Saturn tem um set especifico de sprites a versão DreamCast é apenas o andar pra frente invertido.
2 maravilha sendo jogados em consoles da SEGA.....sega saturn 💚
Ótimo vídeo. Você também poderia fazer metade jogando com o Zangief, que no Saturn é a única versão que possui todos os frames do arcade. Acredito que ajudaria a explicar melhor a comparação.
Muy buen vídeo. Creo que también hay una ligerísima diferencia de resolución entre ambas versiones. Siendo la de Sega Saturn más cercana a la versión de CPS2. Gracias.
El Saturn no soporta la resolucion de las placas CPS1 y CPS2 (384x224) y los corre a 352x224.
I'm a simple man. I see a Dreamcast video and click on "like"
I've played Street Fighter Alpha 3 on PS1, Dreamcast, and the PSP. I've heard of the Saturn port to SFA3 being a more faithful port than the PS1 thanks to the 4 MB RAM cartridge allowing for more character sprite data to be loaded into memory, which makes Dramatic Battles much less restrictive in the options allowed. Up close, the Dreamcast has faster loading time and some additional modes, including Network play, compared to the Saturn. But otherwise, both are pretty faithful ports to the arcade, on top of the additional characters and modes.
But you are right that the controller layout can also make a difference from a gameplay perspective. The Dreamcast's controller layout makes playing fighting games with the typical six-button layout for Capcom fighters a bit tedious for certain in-game actions compared to the Saturn's button layout. Do recall the Dreamcast's layout being a bit tricky to work with for some in-game actions playing Marvel vs Capcom that used Capcom's typical six-button fighting game layout.
Uma dúvida que não foi comentado no texto do vídeo. Esse jogo no Saturn tem suporte para o cartucho de 4megas?
Sem o cartucho de 4 megas o jogo não roda…o cartucho de 4 megas pra esse jogo é obrigatório…
Love this game so much bravo bravo
I never liked the way 2D games looked on Dreamcast. It always had a soft pixellated look that looked rough to me. The Saturn looked much sharper and cleaner. It really was the ultimate 2D machine, outside of the Neo Geo of course.
The Saturn port was only released in Japan, and the Dreamcast port has issues with collision detection.
My best one is the PSP, has lots of characters...
Both are tied but Dreamcast loads a bit faster but better resolution and transparency that was missing from the Saturn and extra features 60fps smooth, I kno I’ll get bashed by Saturn/PSP purists.
Nah you're good. I've played those other versions including the PS1 port and DC is my personal favorite overall, as long as you use the arcade stick of course.
Transparency isn't present even on the Arcade original. It's hardly a improvement really, as it doesn't look better, it's just there.
@@CALAdmin88 Yea, playing with the dreamcast arcade stick is awesome!!
The Saturn port was released in 1999, NOT 1994.
It is pretty much arcade perfect with the RAM expansion cart.
The interface is still slightly altered, like EVERY home port outside of Alpha Anthology. It’s a minor detail, but it’s something that I still cannot for the life of me understand why stuff like the score counter was altered. On the previous home ports without the RAM cart and on the PS1 it made sense, they had limited RAM to work with. On the Dreamcast and a Sega Saturn with no such limit, it makes no sense.
It's not arcade perfect because the Saturn does not support the correct CPS1 & CPS2 resolution. CPS hardware outputs 384x224 and the closest the Saturn can do is 352x224.
Basically not a single CPS port to the Saturn is arcade perfect.
PS1 Wins
@Marv Dainiel Guillermo Because the ps1 version is the best
Este pudo haber sido un gran juego para la Nintendo 64. Esa consola se perdió de muchos buenos títulos en 2D por su obsesión con el 3D.
Lo mismo paso con el gamecube.
Ni de p-do lo hubiera aguantado, con la enorme cantidad de personajes, voces, música y efectos de sonido que tenía. Aunque usaran alguna técnica de compresión para tratar de meter todo, aún así el juego habría quedado incompleto.
Sprites aproveitados da versão de ps1 ao qual não consegue reproduzir todos frames necessários por falta de memória e uma certa preguiça da Capcom em faze-los inteiramente ,algo que só fizeram no Saturn com mais tempo
Release dates for both games are incorrect. First off, the game first premiered in arcades in June of 98. The very first home port was on PlayStation in December of 98. (I bought a used copy in January of 99 for $50. Great price and surprisingly very well done considering the power of the PlayStation).
The weird thing about the Saturn release date (August 99) is that it was released a month after the Dreamcast version (July 99).
I traded in my PS version and another $40 for the Saturn version (Great conversion thanks to the 4mb ram cart). I didn’t get the US Dreamcast version until May of 00.
Justamente por conta desse jogo eu não me conformo da Capcom não ter lançado Marvel vs Capcom pro Saturn. Ao invés disso, fizeram a versão capada do PS1.
Claro que o PS1 vendeu bem mais, mas o Saturn rodaria tranquilamente com o cartucho 4mb.
I don't see it in this video for some reason but I decided to compare these on the actual hardware and on my CRT. While switching back and forth I noticed the Saturn version seems like it's zoomed in / cropped compared to the Dreamcast. Character sprites are smaller but you can see more of the level. Kinda weird.
It's weird that they switched around E. Ryu, T. Hawk, Balrog(Bison), and Guile on the character selection screen.
Oh my god , that’s what was so different between the two character select screens . For the longest time cuz I play both versions frequently from time to time . I’m always like “ the Saturn character select looks odd compared to the Dreamcast version , what the hell could it be ?” Lol
@@preamstrikbiz0 It's not odd cause the Sega Saturn fighter selection screen is the same as the PS1 version. The reason why the Dreamcast, GBA, and PSP versions put the character of Dee-Jay, T. Hawk, Guile, Balrog, and Evil Ryu at different spot at the fighter selection screen was that those are not CPS-2 ports of the game, they ran on different system hardware likely NAOMI so they use different source code for the game. That is why T. Hawk is under Dhalsim and not next to Akuma like the PS1 and Saturn versions which are CPS-2 ports.
On the left is the best looking game of entire 32-bit era. Possibly best playing as well. It was true at the time and even more true with how poorly 32-bit 3D games have aged.
Ótimo vídeo ,só no final q apareceram umas legendas em inglês sobre outro comparativo (weapon 3,weapon 4);o Dreamcast pra "vs fighting" da Capcom realmente não agrada em termos de jogabilidade
Por proximidade com a cps2 o vencedor é sega saturn! 👻
As for the controller arguement, yes the Saturn controller is better for fighters. But, I always use arcade sticks for fighters. Right now I'm using the Brooke adapter for DC and Sat with my Razer PS4 stick. Absolutely amazing adapter. Highly recommended for retrogamers that want to use a modern stick on these awesome games and systems.
A espera acabou
Eu pessoalme amo ver comparações de PS1 ports em comparação com o Arcade, Saturno e Dreamcast. Ao meu ponto de vista é mais interessante ver como os desenvolvedores conseguiram fazer a adaptação. Ótimo vídeo como sempre! Parabéns pelo trabalho de altissíma qualidade.
Other than menus and certain UI elements, people would be hard pressed to find any difference in gameplay and graphics between these two in a blind test.
they are both fantasic....
So apart from the transparency effect they're pretty much identical, right?
Poderia ter o Shin Akuma (ou Gouki) como último desafio (aquele que solta dois hadoukens no ar). Personagem muito apelão.
Emm... no, @VCDECIDE. Sega Dreamcast is Saturn's successor, but it's not 128-bit, but 32. PS2, GameCube and original XBOX, were 32-bit also.
Nintendo 64's CPU was 64-bit tough.
PS4 & XBOX ONE were first true 64-bit consoles.
Addendum: Apart from Dreamcast's real transparency (vs. Saturn's mesh transparency), from what I can hear, sound effects appears to have a higher bitrate on Dreamcast. It's most noticable in game's main menu.
Those are the differences I could tell apart, watching all this on my smartphone. Great video 💪
Gruß! ✌️
i think they switched to GPUs memory bus to name theirs bits power...
Vou deixar a minha opinião baseada na minha experiência. Eu tive uma locadora de games e um certo dia pensei em colocar o meu Sega Saturno e o meu Sega Dreamcast em um gabinete de Fliperama, eu inventei um sistema em que liberava créditos por fichas. O Sega Saturno se saiu muito melhor do que a versão Dreamcast na questão de jogabilidade. Com relação a loading, não era algo muito significativo, questão de 2 segundos o jogo ja carregava.
Both are pretty good ports, each one with its advantages and issues, and I noted that T;Hawk has a different backwards walking sprites than the Dreamcast! But my personal favorit is the PSP one!
PSP version gets boring playing solo all the time. Wish they would release it on consoles so I can play with friends.
Ninguém deve ter pedido, não tem nada sobre no RUclips, então o que acha de fazer um comparativo entre Castlevania 64 e legacy of darkness? Da campanha do Schnaider
キャラや背景の色味には差が無いように見えるけど、体力ゲージ等の半透明の表現が違うね
セガサターン版は点々で半透明に見えるようにしてるけど、ドリキャス版は本当に半透明だ
SFA3 is one of the few games that have absolutely no bad ports. Even the GBA version is outstandingly well-made, easily one of the best fighting games ever made for a handheld device.
Dreamcast tem mais transparências e roda mais liso. Porém, fico com a nostalgia do Saturn ❤️
Ótimos jogos, Saturn mostrando que não perdeu a forma depois de anos, Dreamcast sempre renovando.
Does Dreamcast have a slightly different soundtrack ? I hear an extra synth melody in my right ear on Adon stage ? @2:04 - 2:26 and again @2:38
IIRC the Dreamcast version music is played in Mono while the Saturn version is in stereo
@@drlight6677 I don’t doubt it, but time/cost of console production would make one think it should be the opposite lol
The Dreamcast version was weird, in addition to using mono instead of stereo for it's audio (it's not like the Dreamcast version didn't allow stereo audio), the Dreamcast version also ran at 480i resolution which technically is a higher resolution than the original arcade version, but it resulted in a weird double buffer that made the graphics look really washed out compared to both the arcade original and the Saturn/PS1 versions. @@AyeYoYoYooo
Levando em consideração as vantagens apresentadas na versão do Saturn em relação jogabilidade por possuir 6 botões de face traz um diferencial que pesa, mas nada que não seja possível no Dream, pois ele possui controle de 6 botões na face tbm! Haa mas precisa se comprar a parte, sim da msm forma que bato na tecla do controle original de mega que possui somente 3 botões e tem perda na jogabilidade tbm. Outro ponto a destacar é o cartucho de expansão do Saturn aqui muito bem usado e sendo possível deixar o game com a melhor aparência, enfim serve nesse jogo da msm forma que 10% dos jogos de snes que usam chips especiais, ou 3% dos jogos de N64 que usam tal recurso.. enfim tais coisas são válidas só pra um lado e incrivelmente omitido por muitos.
É impressão minha ou os personagens no Saturn parecem maiores ?
Tinha um Saturn e todos os jogos da Capcom era assim. Parece que ele tinha um over sacan.
Wow 😯😮
The Dreamcast would’ve been the only other home console to top the Saturns 2D prowess, and even then it’s only slightly better. The Dreamcast’s higher color pallet and Progressive scan visuals definitely make for a visual delight.
Não acredito que a versão do dreamcast tem corte de animação!oO
Só ppde ter sido esqiecimento dos programadores, pois o Detamcast tem poder de sobra pra rodar jogos 2d de aecade.
Sim, porém, todavia muitos ports ficam ruins em certos consoles, mesmo que superiores.
Brings a comparison of the Dreamcast version vs psp vs ps1 street fighter Alpha 3
We shall all remember that arcade controllers were a thing for the Dreamcast as well for the Saturn....
Saw the subtitles say Dreamcast is a 128-bit console; Dreamcast is a 32-bit console too, only difference is it's a more powerful 32-bit console than the Saturn because of the hardware it uses.
SFA3 Dreamcast: All arcade animations and resolution are intact but the hit detection is broken and custom combos don't work like they should; Dreamcast sound is also in mono.
Controls on DC also aren't as tight as they should be and it has nothing to do with the controller.
DC version is playable but not the version to turn to for serious play.
SFZ3 Saturn: All arcade animations plus more along with proper hit detection and proper custom combos. Saturn has reverse dramatic battle mode and sound is in stereo.
Saturn has a flaw with Zangief and T.Hawk when they use their supers the games slows down a little which means capcom didn't check for it and fix it before releasing the game. but the slowdown really doesn't hurt anything and actually gives a better feel of the pain a person would feel if they were being slammed around like that.
Controls are tight and and responsive just like Alpha 1 and 2.
Correct, SH4 is basic the same microcode processor to saturns SH2, the truly power of DreamCast come of the PowerVR gpu.
Damn near identical
buena comparación. salvo la resolución no percibo una diferencia entre las versiones, solo eh jugado en sega saturn
Both Good Ports, but I think I like saturn version better...
Tive oportunidade de jogar as duas versões
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*SEGA SATURN for the win but Wii all love Dreamcast!* ⭐️ ❤️ ⭐️
The Saturn cutting the audio to fast after a match
Dreamcast foi/é um baita videogame, pena que não deram a devida importância pra ele. O meu está aqui comigo, funcionando firme e forte desde alguns dias após seu lançamento quando comprei até hoje. Marvel x Capcom 2, Street Fighter Alpha 3, Street Fighter III 3rd Strike, Soul Calibur, Power Stone 2 e Dead or alive são meus jogos.
Acho mais fácil de perceber as diferenças dos lutadores apenas frame a frame, já que são muitos personagens na tela
Es un juego que no necesita muchos requerimientos técnicos, con la potencia de la Saturn le basta y le sobra 👌 por lo tanto ambas versiones son similares, para no decir "iguales" 👍
Great video. I believe the Saturn release year is incorrect, though.
No, it was released in 1999!!
I think those dates are for the console release
@@XXtheJUMPoffXX yeah, I'm dumb, haha
No caso do controle não seria questão de escolha pessoal? Claro, que o da sega tem aquela pegada arcade que dava pra usar deitado no chão ( onde quase todo mundo que conheço nunca usou daquela forma.) *risos*
Na época do Super Nintendo os controles da Sega eram bem diferentes também. Onde o saturno adota o mesmo modelo do Mega Drive /Genesis (controle bom por sinal).
E hoje em dia é assim também com os controles de PS4 e Xbox - 4 botões na e 4 botões nos ombros - sem contar o Switch que é totalmente alienígena se comparado com os outros. Nem sei se dá para jogar jogos de luta ali.
Bom vídeo.
Vídeo excelente. Joguei muito o CD de PS1 nos 3 tijolos de porta PS1, PS2 e agora PS3 gordão.
OMG... SFA3!!!! ❤️️
yes very interesting. i owned the dreamcast saikyo dojo version. it was epic.
i love both versions of this game tho. :D and both sega systems. 90s capcom fighting games are legendary.
Saturn version, because of the 'reverse dramatic battle'.
It is just so friggin awesome to destroy 2 cpu opponents at the same time
I wish there was a mode to fight against 3 or even more cpu opponents at the same time!
Like in Guardian Heroes. Half the fun of that game is messing around in Vs mode against the different AI.