Learn more: 📖 “Nineteenth-Century Borneo: A Study in Diplomatic Rivalry” by Graham Irwin, 📜 “The State of North Borneo, 1881-1946” Leigh R. Wright, ‘The Anglo-Spanish-German 📜 “Treaty of 1885: A Step in the Development of British Hegemony in North Borneo’, in The Australian Journal of Politics and History 📜“The Origins of British Borneo” by Leigh R. Wright 📖 "Brunei: From the Age of Commerce to the 21st Century" by Marie-Sybille de Vienne 📖 "Muslims in the Philippines" by Cesar Adib Majul 📖 "The Muslim South and Beyond " by Samuel K. Tan 📜 "Silsilah Raja-Raja Berunai" by P.L. Amin Sweeney 📜 An Analysis of the "Genealogy of Sulu" by Cesar Adib Majul 📜 "Some Problems of Brunei Chronology" by Robert Nicholl 📜 "A Genealogy of the Sulu Sultanate" by Rita Tuban 📜 "Silsilah Raja-Raja Brunei: The Manuscript of Pengiran Kesuma Muhammad Hasyim" by Annabel Teh Gallop 📜 "The Philippine Claim to Sabah", in Journal of the Malaysian Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society, by H. G. Tregonning 📰 "How Maguindanao and Cotabato rulers helped Sulu win Sabah" by Nash Maulana 📖 "Sejarah Sultan-Sultan Brunei" by Mohd Jamil Al-Sufri, Pehin Orang Kaya Amar Diraja Dato Seri Utama Haji Awang. 📜 "Sulu and Sabah: A Study of British Policy toward the Philippines and North Borneo from the Late Eighteenth Century" by Nicolas Tarling 📜 "The Origin of 'Sabah' and a Reappraisal of Overbeck as Maharajah", in Journal of the Malaysian Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society, by P. J. Rivers 📜 “The Philippines and Sabah Irredenta.” The World Today 24, by Michael Leifer 📖"Islam and Philippine Society: The Writings of Cesar Adib Majul" - Asian Center, University of the Philippines Diliman. 📜 "Malaysia-Philippine Relations: The Issue of Sabah", in Asian Survey, Paridah Abd. Samad and Darusalam Abu Bakar 📜 “The Philippine Claim on North Borneo: Another Look.” Philippine Studies 36, by Alfredo G. Parpan 📜 “THE PHILIPPINE CLAIM TO SABAH AND INTERNATIONAL LAW.” Malaya Law Review 10, by Jayakumar, S. 📜 "From Bitter Memories to Heritage-Making? The Jabidah Massacre and the Mindanao Garden of Peace" by Rommel A. Curaming 📜 "Muslim Separatism: The Moros of Southern Philippines and the Malays of Southern Thailand" by W. Kadir Che Man 📜 "The State-Moro Armed Conflict in the Philippines: Unresolved National Question or Question of Governance" by Rizal Buendia 📜 "Moro Archives: A History of Armed Conflicts in Mindanao and East Asia" by Norodin Alonto Lucman 📜 "Revolt in Mindanao: The Rise of Islam in Philippine Politics" by Goerge Thayil 📜 "Aristocrats of the Malay Race: A History of the Bangsa Moro in the Philippines" by Nasser A. Marohomsalic 📜 "Macapagal, the Sabah Claim and Maphilindo: The Politics of Penetration" by Gerald Sussman 📖"The Moro Struggle in the Philippines" by Cesar Adib Majul
please go to the Brunei Museum and refer back to the Salasiah of Brunei. Plus, the interior of Sabah never being colonized by any of the Sultanates as it was under tribal organization. There is no evidence yet in the part of interior Sabah being dwelt by any of these sultanates. If there is a referendum, I don't think Sabahans want to be part of The Philippines.
For real! Still baffles me that the government still hadn't do any referendum of it despite Sabahan state repeatedly they don't want to join Philippines. You probably find more Sabahan wanting to established an independent nation more than them wanting to join Philippines. Plus, the government can just make a non-binding referendum if they are too scared of any risk which at least can give clear picture on what the opinion of Sabahan is on this situation in international stages.
Part 4 in 2024 should report that Sulu lost in all various courts in Europe. They lost in Madrid, they lost in Paris, they lost 8n the Netherlands and Luxembourg.
The real owner is the people of Sabah and what they decide is ultimately the answer... Many of the people there don't want to be part of Malaysia or the Philippines.. Sabah and Sarawak may vote to be independent and govern their own future.. that is true democracy. This should be true of all people in any part of the world.. no man or country owns the world, it is only the people. I don't mean to disagree with anyone or the history but this is 2023 not the middle ages. We have the same problem 1000s of miles away and the same conflicts and for the most part caused by the same people.. I respect you all but control your own destiny ❤
Sabah will never belong to the Philippines. 1) they never have, 2) they don't speak anything like the same language, 3) they are ethnically different, 4) they have a different legal code. However Sabah shares many of these with Indonesia.
@@Hovite_WandererAll this points if more than enough to end anymore talk of claims. Philippines should focus instead on China’s ridiculous claim on their territory.
Sabahans see themselves as a sovereign state within a federation and would rather have Sabah be independent than part of the Philippines. If there is one country that could said to be the rightful owner of Sabah it's Brunei, not the Philippines.
That's what many people don't know. Even in India, British didn't just came and conquered. East India company was first given Nawabi, a feudal lord position in Bengal by Indian rulers and rights to collect and submit taxes. They later fought other such feudal lords and started acting independent.
Sabah is Sabah. Not Filipino. Not Malayan. Outsiders will be outsiders. Even Filipino coming to Sabah seek for Safety & Jobs. Please take care of your people 1st. If Sabah is under Filipino I don’t think it will be prosperous. It will be ethnics tension as happening in the Philippines. Sabahan is a peaceful people. Not a war tribal people. Just read the History of the Ethnics in Sabah and you will know how rude this Sulu people with Tax & invasion to the peaceful loving ethnic living inside the heart of Sabah. Maybe for you guys never felt peace & freedom, but Sabahan do. In Sabah, the biggest drugs trade, smugglers & illegal trades are from the Philippines, and since they are seller & consumers, crime rates is high. Go & experience living with the Sulu and try living with the indigenous people it is like days & nights different. I met a lot of dishonest Sulu people in business in Sabah. I don’t hate Filipino, I love the Tagalog & Visayan. They are good people. Even the Filipino here don’t want to get mixed up with the Sulu because to them, they are totally different people. Please stop dividing up people. This is 2023. Please fix your community. Even the Badjao sea gypsy also don’t like the Sulu people because they are forced to work in street asking people for money if not they will be beaten. The poorest people living in the street can still afford to eat like normal people here. Sabah don’t have PagPag because the community here even the Sulu is living a good life. Although im mentioning about Sulu, i don’t hate them. I know life is hard, not all is bad, most of them also don’t want to be ruled under Philippines. That’s why they cry when get caught & sent back to the Philippines. Some ethnics fear for their life. They run to Sabah to escape the violence in Philippines & yes most also run to Sabah after doing crime there. Again I stressed here, let people live happy, don’t & stop bringing trouble & problem to Sabah. You maybe can denied me, because you living in denial.
@@x1991xx have you not seen it. You have been judged by the international arbitration court. I never said who live in it however you must talk to the arbitration court because there is a ruling that you owed the heirs of Sultan of Sulu $14.93B.
when u talk about how british and spanish make agreement without involvement of native people, u should also mention about how brunei and sulu sultanete make aggrement without involvement of native sabahan. majority of native in sabahan are kadazan dusun which have different language and culture compare to malay brunei and sulu.
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Your exposition on the subject is highly informative, to say the least. But I would appreciate it if you could support it with your sources, and I mean, both your primary and secondary tools of research.
Maybe you should cover the final decision by the Spanish international court rejecting the arbitration rulings by the french court, also claiming the appeals are null and void ?🤔
Latest as in June 2023: 1. June 6th - Paris Court of Appeal had set aside and annulled the previous Paris Court (lower court) ruling awarding the heirs of the defunct Sulu Sultanate. 2. June 27th - Dutch Court of Appeal had dismissed a bid by eight descendants of former Sultan of Sulu to enforce the arbitration award by Paris Court (lower court) ruling, and dismissed an attempt to seize Malaysian assets following the Paris Court of Appeal decision. 3. Paris Court of Appeal also imposed on Sulu €100,000.00 (Euro currency) to be paid to Malaysia as legal cost. 4. Mean while in Luxembourg, a second attempt to seize Malaysian Petronas assets had been filed in Luxembourg Court due for hearing in September 2023 after the first attempt was dismissed. This will likely be dismissed too following the Paris Court of Appeal decision. Malaysia had spent around RM32m, equivalent to about USD6.6m to deal with these Sulu claim cases in various European courts, in Madrid, Paris, Luxembourg and Netherlands. Apart from the €100,000.00 Sulu has to pay to Malaysia as legal cost, Malaysia is planning to sue Sulu for compensation for the loss of RM32m spent. As for the arbitration proceedings in Spain, the Madrid Court didn't reject the arbitration ruling by Paris Court because Sulu brought their case in Madrid Court first. Madrid Court rejected Sulu's case and ruled in favour of Malaysia. Failing in Madrid, Sulu brought their case in Paris Court. If they were sincere they should pursue further in Madrid Court of Appeal, not ran to Paris. Stampa's action of bringing the case in Paris Court after Madrid Court had already rejected their case was seen by Spanish judicial authority as contempt of court. This prompted the Spanish judicial authority to annul Stampa's appointment as an Arbitrator and Stampa's arbitration which awarded Sulu USD14.82B was also annulled. Criminal proceeding was also taken against Stampa. Sulu and Stampa made an appeal to Madrid Court of Appeal but their appeal was rejected. Later Spanish Constitutional Court upheld the annulment of Stampa's appointment as an Arbitrator.
In short binudol ng british ang sultan of Sulu. Nabudol na sa renta na mas malaki ang rent na bayad sa Brunei na maliit lng ang area na nka lease. Ung sa area ng sultan of Sulu mas malaki ang area mababa ang renta na binabayad. Patu sa lease contract may budol din gawa na Britanya. Cession dw ung padjak. Grabecang pag budol sa sulatanato ng Sulu. Hindi nila napanginabangan ung oil & gas resources at fiesta ang Malaysia binigay on a silver platter ang sabah sa kanila. Yan british empire ganid yan sila kasama ng mga kaharian ng europa nuon.
as per se; the Austro-Hungarian empire also butt in the concession of North Borneo (a.k.a. Sabah or some parts of it at that time) to be as a penal colony by the Austro-Hungarians therefore the North Borneo/Sabah dispute is much more complex rather than simple when it comes to the land validity between the Republic of the Philippines' and Federation of Malaysia's role about the disputed land of Sabah and the people that themselves inhabit by the Federation's and Republic's people that co-existing in such way.
Interesting,will continue watching your video, kindly inform us who was the last sultanate of sulu and its succesor if who is he? , we love to hear from you, thank you
Very interesting history lesson my wife is a Filipina from Cebu and grew up in Davao like Duterte she told me that Sabah was really Filipino territory. I was shocked because all my life I thought that Sabah was part of Malaysia. Also how come I never see you mention Japanese Imperialism?
Filipino territory? Go ask local Sabahan even the locals who are the descendants that came from Sulu Archipelago here, almost all of them don't want to be called Filipino or recognised Philippines as their ruler. Even the one who knows the old history of Sultanate of Sulu think that the Sultanate is a relics of the past and they are no longer binded by it. The Sabahan desired for their voice to be heard and their rights to be respected. Many of them also criticise the Malaysian government itself for ignoring the development of Sabah and continually neglecting their rights which is supposed to be safeguarded in Malaysian Agreement 1963 and Federal Constitution (before it was amended multiple time). Sabahan point of view should be taken in high consideration instead of only letting this two party (the federal government who took our participation in Malaysia formation for granted and Philippines government who only do this for themselves, not the Sabahan) argue in this dispute.
😮 Not surprised the BRITISH, are the best CONNED artist ever! Enjoying and leaving through the privilege of of others countries. And played the superhero through the whole world! The condescending knowledge is best suit the power of the most colonizer.
Half of North Borneo was leased to British Chartered Company by Brunei and the haft by Sutan of Sulu .The proof of facts sabah has the markable stone which was surveyed by British Colonial in Town of Tawau which a Markable stone lies near the Mosque at the edge of the road and the second one is at River Sagaliud,Sandakan and last one lies at Sikuati Kudat.People of still do not know such about .
no village under sulu sultanate, Baron De Overbeck create that made up agreement with sulu sultanate in 1878 just to precede Spanish attempt to take over Sabah by signing their made up agreement with sulu sultanate, there is no actual village ever under sulu sultanate rule anywhere here in Sabah in the past
The British is interested only in its resources. Kaya tayo inaway ni British nung nag claim tayo sa Sabah kasi yung potential na oil deposits kaya Shell is very interested. British supplied arms and training to MNLF via Malaysia. UK even banned PAL to land in UK preferebly Heathrow. Kaya nung 70's ang Airbus sales team nag protocol kay PFEM sa malacanang, Marcos countered if the UK allowed PAL to land at heathrow they will buy A300B4. Kaya Airbus lobbied with the UK Govt to give PAL landing rights. Nung naibigay na bumili si Marcos via PAL ng 13 A300B4.
But how can Philippines claim Sabah?sultan Sulu also Philippines Don't legal them in Philippin?only sultan Sulu can claim Sabah if they have any documen..but they Don't have any legit documen just story
As complicated as it is, I doubt Malaysia will ever yield Sabah easily to the claimants - the heirs of the Sulu Sultanate. Will the conflicting parties be able to reach an agreement? A compromise perhaps? It seems unlikely. In part 4, I hope you touch on the Spanish arbitration award that supposedly favors the claimants of Sulu, and what are the possible scenarios where this might lead in the future.
@hopelope1703Malaysia has no animosity and animomity nor documents that they possess to the land...THEY USURPED THE LAND IN GUISE OF ENGLISH AUTHORITY OVER THE NORTH BORNEO EAST INDIES COMPANY NOT THE TRUE SOUVEREIGN OF THE CROWN OF ENGLAND AND GREAT BRITAIN FOR THE SULTANATE OF SULU CO-EXISTED WITH THE BRITISH CROWN IN THAT ERA
The ownership of Sabah was Sultanate of Sulu who leased Sabah in agreement with the Chartered Company ,while the the people other than Bajau and Sulu Tribes were the parasitic Dwellers After Sulu and Bajau the earliest settlement on North Borneo That is why all states and villages were named by Bajau and Sulu Tribes.It cannot be deniable by Historian expert.Can the Parasitic Dwellers/People of Sabah be liable the ownership of Sabah,despite Sabah/Borneo had been leased by the Sultanate of Sulu to Chartered Company in Sabah disputed and Malaysia ? Thinks wisely and logic !
As a Yank born Filipino I may not have money, but have a historical treasure chest. Well, Brunei, Malaysia and Indonesia, like it or not we appear to be family. Kain na Tayo!
Philippines owned Sabah but unfortunately, Sulu is no more, Brits have left and Philippines have no power to make it an issue. Arbitration? Of course, Malaysia won’t participate bcos it is a non issue to them
Good readings including some comments.. Hope China will not use discussions on Sabah for propaganda purposes to negatively affect the relationship of Phils & Malaysia which both Exclusive Economic Zones seas are being claimed by China.
sulu sultanate is foreigners to Sabah, have nothing to do with Sabah, we do not have any history of any sulu ruler anywhere here in Sabah, sulu sultanate have no right at all to be here, we never defeated in any battle with sulu, never conquered or ruled by sulu at all, you are not telling story you tell sulu sultanate lies
Filipinos do not care about Sabah anymore.This discussion will only affect Phils/Malaysia relations, as both have parts of their EEZ waters being claimed by China.
Sabah benefited so much from the British administration and the western enlightenment. It helped us to transcend from the primitive native civilisation into a more advanced modern civilisation that is today.True Sabahan are forever grateful and indebt to the British. I hope our current government can continue to learn from the west and focus on long term development plan. Malaysia should allocate more resources to the state so that Sabah dont lagged behind other states in Malaysia.
Sudah kuredhai pajakkan dengan keredhaan dan kesukaan kita sendiri kepada tuan Gustavus Baron von Overbeck yang tinggal dalam negeri Hong Kong dan kepada Alfred Dent Esquire yang tinggal dalam negeri London... sampai selama-lamanya sekalian perintah dan kuasa yang kita punya yang takluk kepada kita di tanah besar Pulau Borneo dari Sungai Pandasan di sebelah barat sampai sepanjang semua tanah di pantai sebelah timur sejauh Sungai Sibuku di sebelah selatan. and tiadalah boleh sekali-sekali kuasa dan perintah yang dikeredhai dalam pajakan ini diberi atau ditukarkan kepada lain bangsa atau kompeni daripada bangsa asing kalau tiada dengan keredhaan perintah bawah duli Queen terlebih dahulu.
So the Culprit of this Problem between the Philippines & Malaysia is the BRITISH, UK forgot.about the.Sultanate of Sulu where they are Paying RENT up to this Date.
Ya memang betul Sultan Jamalul alam orang dari Brunei bukan Philippines dia saudara Brunei dia berketurunan orang Brunei sebab Mama dia orang Brunei ☺️☺️
Kaki claim selalu buat sejarah sendiri secara terpesong, sejarah lama itu sudah ada penyelesaian kena buat bah sudah ada perjanjian diurang buat bah tu...siurang tidak akun bah tanah kami kana rabut, perjanjian tetap ada, jangan lebih²..sumangod meti ahawan det tanah..kamaaaa!!😬😬
Belongs to the king if sulo.called sultan of sulo.Sabbah production of oil and gas. Why Philippines government not helping the sultan of sulo? They can pay proty taxes to Philippines 🇵🇭. KawawA in our Filipino Muslim no help for government totally survivor. Philippines have military to protect our citizen country ,why did not helping our Filipino sultan even he is the king in community still need protections. Now the sultan family losing their property part of the Philippines 🇵🇭. Now we need actions to get it back.
@hopelope1703 Which comment would you want me to rebut? 🤣🤣🤣 Which world are you talking about? or ha ha ha ha. No wonder its hopeless Does your comment have a sense?
@hopelope1703 Rebut his comment first, provide your arguement why Sabah isn't historically part of Sulu. It's you who should rebut. So, now go, provide your proof, sources, etc.
The only one get benefit from this was the sultunate of sulu, the philippines and EU ICC. Because malaysia pay rent to this people and this people will increase the rent price whate er they like. XD
@Hope Lope you won a stay order in France that mean the seizure of Petronas assets will be hold on abeyance only in France but the ruling is the same.😅😅😅😂🤣
Subai niyu tuntutan amo manga pihak British hasab gumua dain sin pagjanjian halaum sin katas kabayaan sin karua pihak Brtish iban kasultan Sulu Philippine
Paano ba mabawasan yaang galaw mo, nakakailang eh. Ilang square miles ba ang binigay ng Sultan ng Brunei? Ang galaw mo pala ay siya ring kain ng salita no, kontrolin mo yan pare.
This is a simple ownership issue. Malaysia is one of the few countries that allows foreign ownership of property. This is just a simple land ownership of a Filipino in Malaysia that is older than the Malaysian government. Philippine government do not have to get involved. The Sulu sultanate should use Malaysian courts to settle the land ownership issue. They may have more favorable tax settlements with Malaysia than Philippines.
Malaysian courts are biased and essentially stooges of the Malaysian executive government. Justice for the heirs of the Sulu Sultanate will never be obtained from Malaysian courts.
Sabah was never part of the Filipinos. Why the Filipinos want to take over Sabah by force bcoz of her natural resources (oil & gas). Filipinos are rejected by the Malaysians in the state of Sabah.
@Hope Lope The International Arbitration Court say so. You keep asking that asking that question. Sultanate of Brunei shrinked because of mismanagement😁😁😆😅😂🤣
Sabah, Kalimantan and Sarawak should declare independence from Malaysia and Indonesia, then create a Federation including Brunei (while maintaining their independence) for joint self defence and development? I would love to see Palawan included as it is more Bornean, not part of the Philippines by nature or techtonics.
Geology and geography is not the basis of sovereignty and territory. With that logic, no modern country would exists. All should be redrawn on the map.
Do not be a fool. Pajak is not just lease but closer to mortgage. Relying on non-Malays to translate Malay is ridiculous. Even the Tausug call it Sanda, which means mortgage. The terms is forever, clearly written in Malay written in Jawi scripts. The English version stated it clearly as cessation. You do not rent something forever, with no recourse to claim it back, or even transfer the lease. Transferring the lease to the Filipino government means that the agreement is invalid. Read the agreement in full, instead of cherry picking phrases that only you want to believe.
@@adolphdelatorre3102Read the terms of the payments. mortgage is also paid like rental idiot. The agreement is between the Sulu Sultanate, and not transferable. The Filipino government cannot claim any right. Understand. Your merdeka action is an invasion like Russia invading Ukraine. No matter how powerful you are, do you think you can win?
@Hope Lope and why malaysia paid its rent before.. it is a sign that malaysia agree that it was a rent... also even a court know that malaysia not followed the agreement
Well..no matter how much you wanted to say sulu owned Sabah.. well had to break it up to you..all the relation ended when ww2 happens when the Japanese conquered north Borneo…. The reason British came so far to retake Sabah from Japanese..well it’s a war.. so technically when ww2 ended British owned Sabah and then Sabah choose independence..so yeah..
The reason why it is pointless to debate to whom or where Sabah belongs to is because of a number of things: 1) Straw manning(using legal documents that prove their point): Luring clueless Filipinos about documents made back then that were ambiguous to all parties be Pro-Malaysian or Pro-Philippines ownership of the said islands 2)Appealing to Authority: as to who is currently owning or in control of the islands or to what nation the islands belong to is out of the question and therefore shouldn't be the crux of the argument against the "so called claimants". 2)Black and White Thinking: "Concept of Proof" within science based thinking is a whole lot different from mathematics or logic based thinking,When you say that something is “proved” within math or logic, it can be taken as immutable, but in science, this isn't the case. Science can be viewed as a method that helps us to asymptotically approach objective truth (i.e., something that is absolute), but we can never claim to know anything with 100% certainty. Now to eliminate politicizing this case let us view this in a matter on Where?and when did things get fuzzy and confusing and as if the Philippines when did the switcheroo occurred? When the British East India company dissolved the following lands should have been given back to its respective constituents. Ok?so the question is how is this fair?when the british east india company dissolved in Sabah, it should have been given back to Sulu Sultanate,the Brunei Sultanate,(Sarawak..?)..it should have ended there.
@Hope Lope thats right,u are right! with then where is it that is confusing is ?it is with the language and we have 2 types of language being interpreted in both countries. Which is where the black and white fallacy goes, retrospective point of view does neither prove anything because the papers falls apart with what islands originally these islands belongs to. With respect one of the claimants has been so called "manipulated" by either parties which is now the crux of the argument. By using a piece of paper u have now gained some form of "aide of confidentiality and trust" from the "Sultanate of Sulu"as an ally during those times. But also by making these "politically drastic moves" to gamble the northeastern portion of sabah to the Kingdom of Sulu, u have carried a huge weight of mistrust by revoking the said islands back because u now have new allies(foreigner/colonizers) which you have now agreed superceding the earlier treaty and also it is the same move that was done by the Sultan of Sulu, as they were now slowly being manipulated by the Americans and even massacred to charging suicides against huge guns and armaments by a more advanced country
In other words there's really a no contest here, Sabah does belong to Malaysia, but the SHAME, the Shame that Malaysia has been carrying with her for the past century that she would scuttle every treaty and every alliance when faced with a bigger threat of a country in exchange against her neighboring brother whom 1.) he has much more closer ties to 2.)much more closer bloodline 3.) much more closer culture 4.) Much more further history In other words it was a brash and unprepared treaty made out of indecisiveness, faced in grave danger and foreign threat and you guys don't even have to hide, you would want to keep this friendship between the philippines and you guys have to give the Sultanate's heirs hush money because it will always be remembered in HISTORY. As long as there is history it will always be remembered AGAIN NO DISPUTE HERE FROM ME BUT IT SEEMS THAT THE WINNING PARTY WILL ALWAYS BE THE ONE TELLING THE HISTORY RATHER THAN LISTENING TO THE LATTER.
Your four Ha ha ha ha's constitute this as some sport you would want to take but the south of the Philippines, the fringe areas has Four decades of insurgency,infighting,insurrection, and internal division,...and here we are laughing this one off.
To the ones reading this(except you hope lope) notice the 3 points he makes in his case, u better stop feeding the troll cuz ive shown him/her how he/she puts his foot on his mouth.
Sabah was never part of the Phillipines now and ever. The Sabahans totally reject the Filipinos. Sabahans only speak Bahasa Melayu and Bahasa Indonesia and never Tagalog. So, stop be a dreamer!
if we want to follow just history then every country will have a claim on something. We live in a modern era with modern law. once a country border recognized then thats it. Sabah belongs to msia now. It was never philipines and it will never be. move on.
Learn more:
📖 “Nineteenth-Century Borneo: A Study in Diplomatic Rivalry” by Graham Irwin,
📜 “The State of North Borneo, 1881-1946” Leigh R. Wright, ‘The Anglo-Spanish-German
📜 “Treaty of 1885: A Step in the Development of British Hegemony in North Borneo’, in The Australian Journal of Politics and History
📜“The Origins of British Borneo” by Leigh R. Wright
📖 "Brunei: From the Age of Commerce to the 21st Century" by Marie-Sybille de Vienne
📖 "Muslims in the Philippines" by Cesar Adib Majul
📖 "The Muslim South and Beyond " by Samuel K. Tan
📜 "Silsilah Raja-Raja Berunai" by P.L. Amin Sweeney
📜 An Analysis of the "Genealogy of Sulu" by Cesar Adib Majul
📜 "Some Problems of Brunei Chronology" by Robert Nicholl
📜 "A Genealogy of the Sulu Sultanate" by Rita Tuban
📜 "Silsilah Raja-Raja Brunei: The Manuscript of Pengiran Kesuma Muhammad Hasyim" by Annabel Teh Gallop
📜 "The Philippine Claim to Sabah", in Journal of the Malaysian Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society, by H. G. Tregonning
📰 "How Maguindanao and Cotabato rulers helped Sulu win Sabah" by Nash Maulana
📖 "Sejarah Sultan-Sultan Brunei" by Mohd Jamil Al-Sufri, Pehin Orang Kaya Amar Diraja Dato Seri Utama Haji Awang.
📜 "Sulu and Sabah: A Study of British Policy toward the Philippines and North Borneo from the Late Eighteenth Century" by Nicolas Tarling
📜 "The Origin of 'Sabah' and a Reappraisal of Overbeck as Maharajah", in Journal of the Malaysian Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society, by P. J. Rivers
📜 “The Philippines and Sabah Irredenta.” The World Today 24, by Michael Leifer
📖"Islam and Philippine Society: The Writings of Cesar Adib Majul" - Asian Center, University of the Philippines Diliman.
📜 "Malaysia-Philippine Relations: The Issue of Sabah", in Asian Survey, Paridah Abd. Samad and Darusalam Abu Bakar
📜 “The Philippine Claim on North Borneo: Another Look.” Philippine Studies 36, by Alfredo G. Parpan
📜 “THE PHILIPPINE CLAIM TO SABAH AND INTERNATIONAL LAW.” Malaya Law Review 10, by Jayakumar, S.
📜 "From Bitter Memories to Heritage-Making? The Jabidah Massacre and the Mindanao Garden of Peace" by Rommel A. Curaming
📜 "Muslim Separatism: The Moros of Southern Philippines and the Malays of Southern Thailand" by W. Kadir Che Man
📜 "The State-Moro Armed Conflict in the Philippines: Unresolved National Question or Question of Governance" by Rizal Buendia
📜 "Moro Archives: A History of Armed Conflicts in Mindanao and East Asia" by Norodin Alonto Lucman
📜 "Revolt in Mindanao: The Rise of Islam in Philippine Politics" by Goerge Thayil
📜 "Aristocrats of the Malay Race: A History of the Bangsa Moro in the Philippines" by Nasser A. Marohomsalic
📜 "Macapagal, the Sabah Claim and Maphilindo: The Politics of Penetration" by Gerald Sussman
📖"The Moro Struggle in the Philippines" by Cesar Adib Majul
Thanks for providing your sources!
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@KirbyAraullo kelan po yung part 4?
Part 4 please.🙏🙏🙏
Thanks for this list! I appreciate your effort.
Brunei asked help from sulu but sulu never help brunei so brunei never admit that east of North Borneo given to sulu it never happens.
please go to the Brunei Museum and refer back to the Salasiah of Brunei. Plus, the interior of Sabah never being colonized by any of the Sultanates as it was under tribal organization. There is no evidence yet in the part of interior Sabah being dwelt by any of these sultanates. If there is a referendum, I don't think Sabahans want to be part of The Philippines.
For real! Still baffles me that the government still hadn't do any referendum of it despite Sabahan state repeatedly they don't want to join Philippines. You probably find more Sabahan wanting to established an independent nation more than them wanting to join Philippines. Plus, the government can just make a non-binding referendum if they are too scared of any risk which at least can give clear picture on what the opinion of Sabahan is on this situation in international stages.
I'm expecting Part 4 will become a hotspot of debate in its comment section.
Yup!
yup we insist that sabah is sulu
Oh well that's all they can do here on RUclips, debate hotter than the sun yet in reality nothing will ever budge ..
Part 4 in 2024 should report that Sulu lost in all various courts in Europe. They lost in Madrid, they lost in Paris, they lost 8n the Netherlands and Luxembourg.
The real owner is the people of Sabah and what they decide is ultimately the answer... Many of the people there don't want to be part of Malaysia or the Philippines.. Sabah and Sarawak may vote to be independent and govern their own future.. that is true democracy. This should be true of all people in any part of the world.. no man or country owns the world, it is only the people. I don't mean to disagree with anyone or the history but this is 2023 not the middle ages. We have the same problem 1000s of miles away and the same conflicts and for the most part caused by the same people.. I respect you all but control your own destiny ❤
Sabah will never belong to the Philippines. 1) they never have, 2) they don't speak anything like the same language, 3) they are ethnically different, 4) they have a different legal code. However Sabah shares many of these with Indonesia.
@@Hovite_WandererAll this points if more than enough to end anymore talk of claims. Philippines should focus instead on China’s ridiculous claim on their territory.
Sabahans see themselves as a sovereign state within a federation and would rather have Sabah be independent than part of the Philippines. If there is one country that could said to be the rightful owner of Sabah it's Brunei, not the Philippines.
That's what many people don't know.
Even in India, British didn't just came and conquered.
East India company was first given Nawabi, a feudal lord position in Bengal by Indian rulers and rights to collect and submit taxes.
They later fought other such feudal lords and started acting independent.
Thanks for the new video idol!
Sulu also used owned some part of Indonesia, why don't they claim it? Don't want to make 2 enemies at once?
sir please don't provoke them it will make thing worst. the fact is the fact.
@@Kommanderabdulghani, what fact?
we should claim that too!
@@alberto7412 , dreaming is free.
The British empire fooled everyone for her benefits.
Very well done prof Kirby! Lupet mo talaga bro! 👏 Cheers!
Salamat! 🙏🏽
Selamat Malam saja lah ...
Sabah is Sabah. Not Filipino. Not Malayan. Outsiders will be outsiders. Even Filipino coming to Sabah seek for Safety & Jobs. Please take care of your people 1st. If Sabah is under Filipino I don’t think it will be prosperous. It will be ethnics tension as happening in the Philippines. Sabahan is a peaceful people. Not a war tribal people. Just read the History of the Ethnics in Sabah and you will know how rude this Sulu people with Tax & invasion to the peaceful loving ethnic living inside the heart of Sabah. Maybe for you guys never felt peace & freedom, but Sabahan do. In Sabah, the biggest drugs trade, smugglers & illegal trades are from the Philippines, and since they are seller & consumers, crime rates is high. Go & experience living with the Sulu and try living with the indigenous people it is like days & nights different. I met a lot of dishonest Sulu people in business in Sabah. I don’t hate Filipino, I love the Tagalog & Visayan. They are good people. Even the Filipino here don’t want to get mixed up with the Sulu because to them, they are totally different people. Please stop dividing up people. This is 2023. Please fix your community. Even the Badjao sea gypsy also don’t like the Sulu people because they are forced to work in street asking people for money if not they will be beaten. The poorest people living in the street can still afford to eat like normal people here. Sabah don’t have PagPag because the community here even the Sulu is living a good life.
Although im mentioning about Sulu, i don’t hate them. I know life is hard, not all is bad, most of them also don’t want to be ruled under Philippines. That’s why they cry when get caught & sent back to the Philippines. Some ethnics fear for their life. They run to Sabah to escape the violence in Philippines & yes most also run to Sabah after doing crime there. Again I stressed here, let people live happy, don’t & stop bringing trouble & problem to Sabah. You maybe can denied me, because you living in denial.
You have been judged by the international arbitration court. Just adhere to the international rule of law✌️
Give sultan sulu power to rule sulu build him a castle
@@fernandocruz4877 we’ll see..
@@hassanazhari8309 i know a lot of people who claim to be their descendent.. history will repeat and they will fight against each others
@@x1991xx have you not seen it. You have been judged by the international arbitration court. I never said who live in it however you must talk to the arbitration court because there is a ruling that you owed the heirs of Sultan of Sulu $14.93B.
when u talk about how british and spanish make agreement without involvement of native people, u should also mention about how brunei and sulu sultanete make aggrement without involvement of native sabahan. majority of native in sabahan are kadazan dusun which have different language and culture compare to malay brunei and sulu.
good evening friends how are you here ?? Welcome to Indonesia . God be with you in every goodness. and will multiply the good that is always done in every limitation. blessings always my friend
Your exposition on the subject is highly informative, to say the least. But I would appreciate it if you could support it with your sources, and I mean, both your primary and secondary tools of research.
Interestiing❤
Im sabahan kadazan dusun of course Malaysia!!! Malaysia selamanya maju jaya... proudly been sabahan Malaysia ❤
greetings from sulu
😏
We still supports our Muslim brotherhood bloodlines in Sabah, Sultanate of Sulu, Philippines
@@rizalitogomba6303 Keep on dreaming..dream onnnnn🤣
Pinoy n kdm can haus2 together
Ganda thank you for the the info about Sabah
So informative, kirby. SLMT po. 🥰💖
Nice explanation
Maybe you should cover the final decision by the Spanish international court rejecting the arbitration rulings by the french court, also claiming the appeals are null and void ?🤔
hope he do it cuase don't want have any misunderstanding in future.
Latest as in June 2023:
1. June 6th - Paris Court of Appeal had set aside and annulled the previous Paris Court (lower court) ruling awarding the heirs of the defunct Sulu Sultanate.
2. June 27th - Dutch Court of Appeal had dismissed a bid by eight descendants of former Sultan of Sulu to enforce the arbitration award by Paris Court (lower court) ruling, and dismissed an attempt to seize Malaysian assets following the Paris Court of Appeal decision.
3. Paris Court of Appeal also imposed on Sulu €100,000.00 (Euro currency) to be paid to Malaysia as legal cost.
4. Mean while in Luxembourg, a second attempt to seize Malaysian Petronas assets had been filed in Luxembourg Court due for hearing in September 2023 after the first attempt was dismissed. This will likely be dismissed too following the Paris Court of Appeal decision.
Malaysia had spent around RM32m, equivalent to about USD6.6m to deal with these Sulu claim cases in various European courts, in Madrid, Paris, Luxembourg and Netherlands. Apart from the €100,000.00 Sulu has to pay to Malaysia as legal cost, Malaysia is planning to sue Sulu for compensation for the loss of RM32m spent.
As for the arbitration proceedings in Spain, the Madrid Court didn't reject the arbitration ruling by Paris Court because Sulu brought their case in Madrid Court first. Madrid Court rejected Sulu's case and ruled in favour of Malaysia. Failing in Madrid, Sulu brought their case in Paris Court. If they were sincere they should pursue further in Madrid Court of Appeal, not ran to Paris.
Stampa's action of bringing the case in Paris Court after Madrid Court had already rejected their case was seen by Spanish judicial authority as contempt of court. This prompted the Spanish judicial authority to annul Stampa's appointment as an Arbitrator and Stampa's arbitration which awarded Sulu USD14.82B was also annulled. Criminal proceeding was also taken against Stampa.
Sulu and Stampa made an appeal to Madrid Court of Appeal but their appeal was rejected. Later Spanish Constitutional Court upheld the annulment of Stampa's appointment as an Arbitrator.
PART 4!
This British just caused a lot of problems!
Especially the Palestine issue
In short binudol ng british ang sultan of Sulu. Nabudol na sa renta na mas malaki ang rent na bayad sa Brunei na maliit lng ang area na nka lease. Ung sa area ng sultan of Sulu mas malaki ang area mababa ang renta na binabayad. Patu sa lease contract may budol din gawa na Britanya. Cession dw ung padjak. Grabecang pag budol sa sulatanato ng Sulu. Hindi nila napanginabangan ung oil & gas resources at fiesta ang Malaysia binigay on a silver platter ang sabah sa kanila. Yan british empire ganid yan sila kasama ng mga kaharian ng europa nuon.
as per se;
the Austro-Hungarian empire also butt in the concession of North Borneo (a.k.a. Sabah or some parts of it at that time) to be as a penal colony by the Austro-Hungarians
therefore the North Borneo/Sabah dispute is much more complex rather than simple when it comes to the land validity between the Republic of the Philippines' and Federation of Malaysia's role about the disputed land of Sabah and the people that themselves inhabit by the Federation's and Republic's people that co-existing in such way.
Interesting,will continue watching your video, kindly inform us who was the last sultanate of sulu and its succesor if who is he? , we love to hear from you, thank you
Brits are really great at messing things up!
Oh well so were the Spanish and the rest of the European powers. El Conquistador ?
Very interesting history lesson my wife is a Filipina from Cebu and grew up in Davao like Duterte she told me that Sabah was really Filipino territory. I was shocked because all my life I thought that Sabah was part of Malaysia. Also how come I never see you mention Japanese Imperialism?
Oh well tell her too bad for the Pinoys..
Filipino territory? Go ask local Sabahan even the locals who are the descendants that came from Sulu Archipelago here, almost all of them don't want to be called Filipino or recognised Philippines as their ruler. Even the one who knows the old history of Sultanate of Sulu think that the Sultanate is a relics of the past and they are no longer binded by it. The Sabahan desired for their voice to be heard and their rights to be respected. Many of them also criticise the Malaysian government itself for ignoring the development of Sabah and continually neglecting their rights which is supposed to be safeguarded in Malaysian Agreement 1963 and Federal Constitution (before it was amended multiple time). Sabahan point of view should be taken in high consideration instead of only letting this two party (the federal government who took our participation in Malaysia formation for granted and Philippines government who only do this for themselves, not the Sabahan) argue in this dispute.
😮 Not surprised the BRITISH, are the best CONNED artist ever! Enjoying and leaving through the privilege of of others countries. And played the superhero through the whole world! The condescending knowledge is best suit the power of the most colonizer.
Kirby seraulo?!
make a documentary regarding the iranun the vikings of southeast asia po :)
Hello, makananu da kang akasabi.
Atin kang telepono.mallari kung awsan?
sabah is for win this race who have true faith this history..that sabah is for him.
Half of North Borneo was leased to British Chartered Company by Brunei and the haft by Sutan of Sulu .The proof of facts sabah has the markable stone which was surveyed by British Colonial in Town of Tawau which a Markable stone lies near the Mosque at the edge of the road and the second one is at River Sagaliud,Sandakan and last one lies at Sikuati Kudat.People of still do not know such about .
no village under sulu sultanate, Baron De Overbeck create that made up agreement with sulu sultanate in 1878 just to precede Spanish attempt to take over Sabah by signing their made up agreement with sulu sultanate, there is no actual village ever under sulu sultanate rule anywhere here in Sabah in the past
The British is interested only in its resources. Kaya tayo inaway ni British nung nag claim tayo sa Sabah kasi yung potential na oil deposits kaya Shell is very interested. British supplied arms and training to MNLF via Malaysia. UK even banned PAL to land in UK preferebly Heathrow. Kaya nung 70's ang Airbus sales team nag protocol kay PFEM sa malacanang, Marcos countered if the UK allowed PAL to land at heathrow they will buy A300B4. Kaya Airbus lobbied with the UK Govt to give PAL landing rights. Nung naibigay na bumili si Marcos via PAL ng 13 A300B4.
Kirby can you please do a video on pabasa 😢tnx
Sultanate of Sulu is the legitimate owner but Malaysia possessed it illegally.
But how can Philippines claim Sabah?sultan Sulu also Philippines Don't legal them in Philippin?only sultan Sulu can claim Sabah if they have any documen..but they Don't have any legit documen just story
nope, its belong to sultanate of brunei , not sulu
Such a bright brain. Got a big crush 😅
Thank you 🙏🏽
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As complicated as it is, I doubt Malaysia will ever yield Sabah easily to the claimants - the heirs of the Sulu Sultanate. Will the conflicting parties be able to reach an agreement? A compromise perhaps? It seems unlikely. In part 4, I hope you touch on the Spanish arbitration award that supposedly favors the claimants of Sulu, and what are the possible scenarios where this might lead in the future.
@Hope Lope Would it still be possible then to refile the case with another arbitrator?
operation merdeka will continue
@Hope Lope operation merdeka in a nice way...🙄🙄
@Hope Lope of course you are in the side of malaysia🙄🙄
@hopelope1703Malaysia has no animosity and animomity nor documents that they possess to the land...THEY USURPED THE LAND IN GUISE OF ENGLISH AUTHORITY OVER THE NORTH BORNEO EAST INDIES COMPANY NOT THE TRUE SOUVEREIGN OF THE CROWN OF ENGLAND AND GREAT BRITAIN FOR THE SULTANATE OF SULU CO-EXISTED WITH THE BRITISH CROWN IN THAT ERA
Akala ko hindi na to matutuloy.
Where's part2?
Here you go ruclips.net/video/e0VUS5H1cC0/видео.html
The ownership of Sabah was Sultanate of Sulu who leased Sabah in agreement with the Chartered Company ,while the the people other than Bajau and Sulu Tribes were the parasitic Dwellers After Sulu and Bajau the earliest settlement on North Borneo That is why all states and villages were named by Bajau and Sulu Tribes.It cannot be deniable by Historian expert.Can the Parasitic Dwellers/People of Sabah be liable the ownership of Sabah,despite Sabah/Borneo had been leased by the Sultanate of Sulu to Chartered Company in Sabah disputed and Malaysia ? Thinks wisely and logic !
As a Yank born Filipino I may not have money, but have a historical treasure chest. Well, Brunei, Malaysia and Indonesia, like it or not we appear to be family. Kain na Tayo!
Yes we all one big family
Andi kain and ebal😂😂😂
Philippines owned Sabah but unfortunately, Sulu is no more, Brits have left and Philippines have no power to make it an issue. Arbitration? Of course, Malaysia won’t participate bcos it is a non issue to them
Good readings including some comments.. Hope China will not use discussions on Sabah for propaganda purposes to negatively affect the relationship of Phils & Malaysia which both Exclusive Economic Zones seas are being claimed by China.
sulu sultanate is foreigners to Sabah, have nothing to do with Sabah, we do not have any history of any sulu ruler anywhere here in Sabah, sulu sultanate have no right at all to be here, we never defeated in any battle with sulu, never conquered or ruled by sulu at all, you are not telling story you tell sulu sultanate lies
British created dispute everywhere
Filipinos do not care about Sabah anymore.This discussion will only affect Phils/Malaysia relations, as both have parts of their EEZ waters
being claimed by China.
Sabah benefited so much from the British administration and the western enlightenment. It helped us to transcend from the primitive native civilisation into a more advanced modern civilisation that is today.True Sabahan are forever grateful and indebt to the British. I hope our current government can continue to learn from the west and focus on long term development plan. Malaysia should allocate more resources to the state so that Sabah dont lagged behind other states in Malaysia.
Sudah kuredhai pajakkan dengan keredhaan dan kesukaan kita sendiri kepada tuan Gustavus Baron von Overbeck yang tinggal dalam negeri Hong Kong dan kepada Alfred Dent Esquire yang tinggal dalam negeri London... sampai selama-lamanya sekalian perintah dan kuasa yang kita punya yang takluk kepada kita di tanah besar Pulau Borneo dari Sungai Pandasan di sebelah barat sampai sepanjang semua tanah di pantai sebelah timur sejauh Sungai Sibuku di sebelah selatan.
and
tiadalah boleh sekali-sekali kuasa dan perintah yang dikeredhai dalam pajakan ini diberi atau ditukarkan kepada lain bangsa atau kompeni daripada bangsa asing kalau tiada dengan keredhaan perintah bawah duli Queen terlebih dahulu.
So the Culprit of this Problem between the Philippines & Malaysia is the BRITISH,
UK forgot.about the.Sultanate of Sulu where they are Paying RENT up to this Date.
Lets sue the International for what was The British Colonial had been done !
Why dont your Philippines people give your own land to sultan sulu?
Abdol.... Philippines already had kings and queens... Before Islam exist in ASEAN 😂🤭 wtf are you talking about?????
Dia bukan Philippines dia keturunan Brunei mama dia Brunei😊❤❤
Ya memang betul Sultan Jamalul alam orang dari Brunei bukan Philippines dia saudara Brunei dia berketurunan orang Brunei sebab Mama dia orang Brunei ☺️☺️
Bapa dia orang apa?? Keturunan di warisi dari bapa bukan mama
@@mohd8439betul tu...mantap
The Queen of the South will Rise🤗 The Land of Ophir🤫Where King Solomon got its Gold🤫 Columbus, Magellan, and Bush knew🤗
This is rubbish claim. If sulu is a sovereign state, this would be valid. Change Philippines to Sulu Sultanate Monarch first, then we can talk
Kaki claim selalu buat sejarah sendiri secara terpesong, sejarah lama itu sudah ada penyelesaian kena buat bah sudah ada perjanjian diurang buat bah tu...siurang tidak akun bah tanah kami kana rabut, perjanjian tetap ada, jangan lebih²..sumangod meti ahawan det tanah..kamaaaa!!😬😬
Develop Southern Philippines Muslim majority cities don't biased only developed Christian majority cities....
Belongs to the king if sulo.called sultan of sulo.Sabbah production of oil and gas. Why Philippines government not helping the sultan of sulo? They can pay proty taxes to Philippines 🇵🇭. KawawA in our Filipino Muslim no help for government totally survivor. Philippines have military to protect our citizen country ,why did not helping our Filipino sultan even he is the king in community still need protections. Now the sultan family losing their property part of the Philippines 🇵🇭. Now we need actions to get it back.
that a good question, why not in first place after get independent from USA?🤔
Historically part of sulu , you can read it every where in the world in library 😂
@hopelope1703 your mom
@hopelope1703Hahahaha... Poor fellow
@hopelope1703
Which comment would you want me to rebut? 🤣🤣🤣
Which world are you talking about?
or
ha ha ha ha. No wonder its hopeless
Does your comment have a sense?
@hopelope1703 Rebut his comment first, provide your arguement why Sabah isn't historically part of Sulu. It's you who should rebut. So, now go, provide your proof, sources, etc.
Sultanate of sulu
Owner...
The only one get benefit from this was the sultunate of sulu, the philippines and EU ICC. Because malaysia pay rent to this people and this people will increase the rent price whate er they like. XD
this is why the sultanate of sulu heirs keep winning in court. I hope they take over their inheritance.
@Hope Lope here you are again. Give us the link😄😁😆😅😂🤣
@Hope Lope only this year 2023 (FEB) the court of Luxembourgh to implement the seizure of Petronas assets😆😅😂🤣
@Hope Lope you won a stay order in France that mean the seizure of Petronas assets will be hold on abeyance only in France but the ruling is the same.😅😅😅😂🤣
The Sulus have not even got a single sen,cent or peso yet .. the Malaysian are just too smart to take action and stop it all
Dari Perlis sampai ke Sabah, kita sudah Merdeka ..
Keluarga dia orang Brunei Semua untuk bukan dari Philippines 😢😢
Come claim sabah if you want your head detached from your body😊
Malaysia must give respect to the Sulu people..return whats not yours and pay your debt..and settle soon
Yeah how the British stole and in the End we Malaysia got it ..
So its the End ..
As long ss Philipine Rise is ours!!!!
Subai niyu tuntutan amo manga pihak British hasab gumua dain sin pagjanjian halaum sin katas kabayaan sin karua pihak Brtish iban kasultan Sulu Philippine
British coloniser renting that land to sulu sultanate
Malaysia should return Sabah to the rightful owner
So informative. Watching from Israel 🇮🇱
Thank you!
The spainiard and gringos stole you too.. now what are you talking about?
Paano ba mabawasan yaang galaw mo, nakakailang eh. Ilang square miles ba ang binigay ng Sultan ng Brunei? Ang galaw mo pala ay siya ring kain ng salita no, kontrolin mo yan pare.
SABAH INVASION 2025
This is a simple ownership issue. Malaysia is one of the few countries that allows foreign ownership of property. This is just a simple land ownership of a Filipino in Malaysia that is older than the Malaysian government. Philippine government do not have to get involved. The Sulu sultanate should use Malaysian courts to settle the land ownership issue. They may have more favorable tax settlements with Malaysia than Philippines.
Malaysian courts are biased and essentially stooges of the Malaysian executive government. Justice for the heirs of the Sulu Sultanate will never be obtained from Malaysian courts.
To the ......
Sabah was never part of the Filipinos. Why the Filipinos want to take over Sabah by force bcoz of her natural resources (oil & gas). Filipinos are rejected by the Malaysians in the state of Sabah.
Did you watch or understand the video?
How the american stole the phillipine
YT PROPAGANDA....👎
What do you mean?
Great vlog. Greetings from Sabah Philippines ❤
The sabah is ours to the sultanate of sulu.
@Hope Lope The International Arbitration Court say so. You keep asking that asking that question. Sultanate of Brunei shrinked because of mismanagement😁😁😆😅😂🤣
Sabah, Kalimantan and Sarawak should declare independence from Malaysia and Indonesia, then create a Federation including Brunei (while maintaining their independence) for joint self defence and development? I would love to see Palawan included as it is more Bornean, not part of the Philippines by nature or techtonics.
Geology and geography is not the basis of sovereignty and territory. With that logic, no modern country would exists. All should be redrawn on the map.
@@hijodelsoldeoriente palawan and balabac was in fact part of Borneo
@@gfxminer4809 again. relevance?
Do not be a fool. Pajak is not just lease but closer to mortgage. Relying on non-Malays to translate Malay is ridiculous. Even the Tausug call it Sanda, which means mortgage. The terms is forever, clearly written in Malay written in Jawi scripts. The English version stated it clearly as cessation. You do not rent something forever, with no recourse to claim it back, or even transfer the lease. Transferring the lease to the Filipino government means that the agreement is invalid. Read the agreement in full, instead of cherry picking phrases that only you want to believe.
Pajak is lease... and why malaysia paid its rent before it means malaysia admitted it is a rent 🙄🙄🙄 dont worry operation merdeka will continue
@@adolphdelatorre3102Read the terms of the payments. mortgage is also paid like rental idiot. The agreement is between the Sulu Sultanate, and not transferable. The Filipino government cannot claim any right. Understand. Your merdeka action is an invasion like Russia invading Ukraine. No matter how powerful you are, do you think you can win?
@Hope Lope and why malaysia paid its rent before.. it is a sign that malaysia agree that it was a rent... also even a court know that malaysia not followed the agreement
@Hope Lope you are the one who should wake up! the court decide that the agreement was not followed by the malaysia
@Hope Lope you have been judged by the international arbitration court. Just abide and adhere to the international rule of law.
Kasalanan ni aquino yan
LUID KA Cabalen!
Sabah belonged to sulu and the Tausug people. Malaysia is only to continue the rentals agreement between BNBC and Sultan Jamalul Kiram of Sulu.
@hopelope1703
Malaysia wants sabah becoz it's not part their territory it's a coloniser land soon it will be part of sulu people 😊
Well..no matter how much you wanted to say sulu owned Sabah.. well had to break it up to you..all the relation ended when ww2 happens when the Japanese conquered north Borneo…. The reason British came so far to retake Sabah from Japanese..well it’s a war.. so technically when ww2 ended British owned Sabah and then Sabah choose independence..so yeah..
The subjugation of primitive peoples wasn't much of a challenge for the western Colonial powers which were more advanced.
hasabab....
The reason why it is pointless to debate to whom or where Sabah belongs to is because of a number of things:
1) Straw manning(using legal documents that prove their point): Luring clueless Filipinos about documents made back then that were ambiguous to all parties be Pro-Malaysian or Pro-Philippines ownership of the said islands
2)Appealing to Authority: as to who is currently owning or in control of the islands or to what nation the islands belong to is out of the question and therefore shouldn't be the crux of the argument against the "so called claimants".
2)Black and White Thinking:
"Concept of Proof" within science based thinking is a whole lot different from mathematics or logic based thinking,When you say that something is “proved” within math or logic, it can be taken as immutable, but in science, this isn't the case. Science can be viewed as a method that helps us to asymptotically approach objective truth (i.e., something that is absolute), but we can never claim to know anything with 100% certainty. Now to eliminate politicizing this case let us view this in a matter on Where?and when did things get fuzzy and confusing and as if the Philippines when did the switcheroo occurred? When the British East India company dissolved the following lands should have been given back to its respective constituents. Ok?so the question is how is this fair?when the british east india company dissolved in Sabah, it should have been given back to Sulu Sultanate,the Brunei Sultanate,(Sarawak..?)..it should have ended there.
@Hope Lope thats right,u are right! with then where is it that is confusing is ?it is with the language and we have 2 types of language being interpreted in both countries. Which is where the black and white fallacy goes, retrospective point of view does neither prove anything because the papers falls apart with what islands originally these islands belongs to. With respect one of the claimants has been so called "manipulated" by either parties which is now the crux of the argument.
By using a piece of paper u have now gained some form of "aide of confidentiality and trust" from the "Sultanate of Sulu"as an ally during those times. But also by making these "politically drastic moves" to gamble the northeastern portion of sabah to the Kingdom of Sulu, u have carried a huge weight of mistrust by revoking the said islands back because u now have new allies(foreigner/colonizers) which you have now agreed superceding the earlier treaty and also it is the same move that was done by the Sultan of Sulu, as they were now slowly being manipulated by the Americans and even massacred to charging suicides against huge guns and armaments by a more advanced country
In other words there's really a no contest here, Sabah does belong to Malaysia, but the SHAME, the Shame that Malaysia has been carrying with her for the past century that she would scuttle every treaty and every alliance when faced with a bigger threat of a country in exchange against her neighboring brother whom
1.) he has much more closer ties to
2.)much more closer bloodline
3.) much more closer culture
4.) Much more further history
In other words it was a brash and unprepared treaty made out of indecisiveness, faced in grave danger and foreign threat and you guys don't even have to hide, you would want to keep this friendship between the philippines and you guys have to give the Sultanate's heirs hush money because it will always be remembered in HISTORY.
As long as there is history it will always be remembered
AGAIN NO DISPUTE HERE FROM ME BUT IT SEEMS THAT THE WINNING PARTY WILL ALWAYS BE THE ONE TELLING THE HISTORY RATHER THAN LISTENING TO THE LATTER.
Your four Ha ha ha ha's constitute this as some sport you would want to take but the south of the Philippines, the fringe areas has Four decades of insurgency,infighting,insurrection, and internal division,...and here we are laughing this one off.
To the ones reading this(except you hope lope) notice the 3 points he makes in his case, u better stop feeding the troll cuz ive shown him/her how he/she puts his foot on his mouth.
@hopelope1703hearsay? You're doing the same thing as him
Sabah was never part of the Phillipines now and ever. The Sabahans totally reject the Filipinos. Sabahans only speak Bahasa Melayu and Bahasa Indonesia and never Tagalog. So, stop be a dreamer!
Malaysia never Independent, they are British states
if we want to follow just history then every country will have a claim on something. We live in a modern era with modern law. once a country border recognized then thats it. Sabah belongs to msia now. It was never philipines and it will never be. move on.
Bahasa indon takde ke .. ??
boleh tonton sambil buka seri kata dan cuba belajar bahasa inggris juga
aSk philippines government to fix their own country and internal conflict and war first before claiming others . =O
The Philippines can do all of those while the heirs of the Sulu Sultanate enforce the arbitration ruling that went against Malaysia.
I hope malaysia follow the decision of the court.. sabah, 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
Im getting tired watching your hand gestures...
But very informative content tho...