Well, I Don't Know About That - America's First Amendment - The Jim Jefferies Show - Comedy Central
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2017
- Jim explores the constant controversy surrounding the notion of freedom of speech in the U.S.
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The cake thing reminded me of a Joke Obama made at his last Press Corps dinner. He was praising Joe Biden, and said, "We have become so close that some places in Indiana won't sell us pizza anymore."
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That’s actually a funny joke. You should try laughing sometime
Pat Doyle don’t get it ?
@@mannygarcia2051
Back when Mike Pence was Governor of Indiana there was a pizza shop that made a big deal about not serving gay people, which caused Pence to push through a "religious freedom" bill to allow businesses to discriminate based on religious beliefs.
Oh 😭😭😭😭 was to high my bad
"Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequence."
Truth!
Well it should.
Why?
+Pippin Well, I do not see how words have anything to do with physical consequences. They are on a different level and it is very hard to control. Is her being fired without legal process the right amount of punishment.. can I just think of the right punishment for speech I don't like? No, of course not, the Justice system must figure these things out, and they have to follow the first amendment.
A bit of a rambling comment, but it boils down to: The lady saying something about Warmbier hurts no one physically. Her being fired does hurt her and the people around her. It's disproportionate, and the Department of Justice would've ruled so if this had gone via the route it should have taken, the legal route.
So for example. If I said I am going to kill the president would it be unreasonable for me to be banned from visiting the whitehouse?
+Pippin A In principle I think that is wrong, yes. The security around the president is good enough to dismantle your plans if you actually tried. However I see that this is less practical than a ban, which also makes that less people make this threat.
But you do see how this is an instance where an individual says he will resort to violence HIM/HERSELF. This is a special case, as it probably also would for the Department of Justice.
I love how Jim leans back in the chair. This show feels like he's pontificating while slightly drunk. Fucking golden.
You had me when you said pontificate, and even conjugated it. You wouldn't get that from anyone watching Fox News.....
To you merks, anything is "golden" even Trumps hair. That's why you "golden" loving smegs voted him in.
Jefferies is shite.
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I had the same thought, I had the impression he was more than a little half-cocked he seems like he Downs a bottle of wild turkey and some Xanax and comes out and tells us how poorly we're doing at surviving and striving and democracy and excetera excetera excetera
God damn! At least learn how to spell "etcetera" before you go fucking it up TWICE IN A ROW!! LOL!! Illiterate fucks like you make my day.
I will have you know that as a non-avatar with a generic name I am offended by this generalization.
This reminds me of one of my favorite Onion headlines: Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be
Moral of the story:
Cheat on your partner with someone who has the same name.
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Two Ron's don't make it right.
@@timleary9537 Yes, but a couple of kids can definitely make IT right
There's a game called Catherine where this basically happens
To make sex more interesting, try calling out her sisters/mom's name as you reach the point of no return. Remember to hold on for dear life
Jim Jefferies points out that some furious people cannot understand their own founding documents! Plus I thank him for showing the WCCB News clip in this video!
His "understanding",I suspect,is tenuous at best...
Friggin’ Jim Jeffries, is comedy gold! He delivers every time! I love this guy.
I knew those people always talk about the constitution know nothing about it. Just like those with bible.
Can you blame them? I don't think they can read
Sounds personal, pal...😂
The declaration of independence was written about rear things that were actually happening. The bible is made up fairytale Noone cared if they don't know what it says
@@RahulPatel-og2ke Oh, They Can Read.... They Just Cherry Pick Out What They Like And Weaponize It.
i think its kinda funny how people are like "go back to your country" but jim jefferies is an american citizen with all the same rights as every american citizen. like lets not discriminate just cuz hes got an accent lmao. im just happy he says things to trigger people, lowkey the biggest troll ever
Alex Thompson he's not a citizen
Michael Morehouse just watch his stand up bro it explains every thing
Alex Thompson He has a green card he's not a citizen yet, though he does have an anchor baby lol. I worship this guys stand up btw.
Michael Morehouse oh shit i thought his green card days had been over and he got his citizen ship. and good lol i love his standup its the best
Alex Thompson You know what I could be wrong. That's just the last I heard. Just googled it and found nothing so who knows. But I do know it takes at least a decade and he has been here that long so maybe he is lol
"Americans love the freedom of speech, but the truth is the 1st Amendment is a lot like the Vagina. It's beautiful and complicated, and angry guys on the internet have no idea how it works." - Jim Jefferies
This is going to be classic quote, at least in my world.
Regarding NPR selected tweet: take one or two moronic tweets and equating it an entire group of people even group of those that we dislike is dishonest because that kind guilt by association have been used against good group of people as well.
Feon Jun he didn’t. He used a stupid response to show how stupid people can be.
It was more than one twitter account, though. Generalizing is bad, but all those that did tweet those kinds of responses... were generally stupid :P
@@nobullshiit5682 lol, ok.
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@twatoast cry cry me a river of melanin hahahahahaahahahhahahaha u twat
Love ya Jim and I am proud to have you as a fellow American
@Achilleskneel Avi Yameni is a wife beater. And yes we still love Jim Jeffries after editing Avi Yameni's long racist answer into a short racist answer.
The Slants are awesome, Sakura Sakura is one of my all time favorite songs!
'Religion.' 'Sincerely held belief.' Basically, excuses to get away with behavior that is unacceptable... except for the excuse of 'I want to do this, I have no rational explanation or base of evidence to back it up, but if you don't oblige it will make me angry.'
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I was just watching some stand up from Patton Oswalt and he was making that point about anti-gay people having only one actual complaint which is that they don't like the idea of it/what they imagine is going on.
I think he did a great job explaining the crux of the problem and what's actually driving homophobic behavior vs what justifications are being used for it.
I'm not sure how often I hear people use the bible to justify good things rather than to justify behavior they seem to know is totalled f-ed up. It seems like it's always an excuse for discrimination or some level of human rights being taken away. Or just as an excuse for why it's ok to be prejudiced. What a shame those people don't choose better parts of the bible to live by like one of the many things Jesus said about not being judgemental, being kind and just not being a total dick in general lol.
It's sad religion is so often used to cause pain instead of to spread what immense value kindness has
Because value system are often backed up by their mere existence, and the explanation for why it works is rarely needed if it works. If you have a value system, odds are you got it from observing other people passively, and they too got it the same way, you don't have to justify your values, even though you maybe should, you just have to act them out.
And honestly who are you hurting by just refusing to serve gay weddings, it's not hard for them to just go to another shop. The whole thing is a service that the man offers, he can deny anyone for really any reason as long as it's his labour and his responsibility, you can't force him to change his values, because you can't force him to be anyone else than himself.
All wedding cakes are gay. Just saying.
What if the cake guy disapproves of someone's choice of mate because, say, she has buck teeth? Or because she's Jewish and he's Catholic? Or because they're Scientologists? Or because they're Middle-Eastern and probably Islamic? Are those things okay, too? What if he decided not to make cakes for people who were too old, on the grounds that he finds it "icky?"
What if the intended bride dominates the cake-selection process, and isn't submissive enough to her man? That's even a biblical reason to be against them as a couple.
Is it up to someone who provides a service to the public to pick and choose only certain people from that public he supposedly serves?
Erik Jarl: how would YOU feel if someone decided not to serve you in a public bakery because they don't like YOUR religion or personal choices? Sure, you can go to another bakery...and you should. But at the moment of being told they won't serve you, you think you'd still be asking, "Who does it hurt?" It might be hurting YOU. Frankly, I don't like the way you write RUclips posts, or the cut of your jib, and I wouldn't make you a cake if you were the last cake-eater on earth.
Who did I hurt? Nobody...right?
Nothing's more patriotic than having an Australian yelling at you about the 1st Amendment
They said that Trump supporters didnt recognize it as the Constitution, but I just saw somebody (some idiot?) saying that the posting of the Constitution was a subtle call for revolution by NPR. You can play "Fuck The Police" any day you like....but if you do it in public on the day of the Rodney King verdict, it may take on a different context to passersby and those within earshot. While Im sure that Jim Jeffries knows A TON about the nuances of the American founding documents, this MIGHT just be another "bash Trump and his supporters" show where some immigrant (Jefferies, Bee, Noah, Oliver, etc) is fed lines to read by coastal liberals. MIGHT.
Gekokujo76 just to clarify your ignorance, NPR does this every year. This is just the first year they tweeted it.
Jun Yan "SECOND REASON.....I'm foreign." 😂😂😂
Right...? Especially when they are legal Americans now.....
You call me ignorant, but these guys are talking about The Constitution and showing The Declaration of Independence (which is what NPR was tweeting). This whole situation is ridiculous....on both sides and everwhere in between. If this is the first year that NPR "Tweeted" the Declaration....how did they put it out in years past?
When I saw the lady with the signs, I’m like, “Oh she’s happy and cute, I might be interested,” and then I read the signs and become depressed. It’s the confidence that breaks my heart. Where’s the woman holding signs celebrating video games and pizza? Dungeons and Dragons? The MCU and Doctor Who? Oh... Ok, then. I’ll just go home.
"The problem with the world is that the intelligent are full of doubts and the ignorant are completely free of them." Stupid people are often really confident.
he's totally correct. the founding fathers were smart enough to say the government can't tell you to shut the fuck up, but you're perfectly free to tell your fellow citizens that all day long. that's not the ultimate purpose of freedom of speech of course, but...
Yes MemphiStig
I'm humor-challenged, but JJ makes me laugh. Thanks, man.
Dynamite 🧨
Oh sorry different jj. Lol
Why start a business if you don't want to run it like a business. It should be obvious that cutting off a percentage of people will hurt your revenue. If you don't like money then why did you start a business?
james d he kinda misrepresented the story - the baker makes cakes for anyone, but doesn't agree with gay marriage, so he didn't want to make a gay marriage cake ... i recognize that that sounds stupid and bigoted, but i agree that he shouldn't have to - here's why: if I'm a contractor and i win a build to build a lodge house for a local club, then come to find out that the club is the kkk, i shouldn't have any resistance pulling out of that project (or refusing it in the first place) and anyone who wanted to force my business to complete that project would drastically be infringing on my rights
plumlogan, you made a very good and logical argument here, the problem is the person you used it against, james d was simply talking about buisness intelligence, not rights to refuse service.
Wasn't the cake thing years ago? Shouldn't we just make a law specifically for such a scenario. The bakery got a lot of internet heat, that should be punishment enough. It's not like they have a monopoly on wedding cakes either.
@yonderTheGreat The thing is, a business does not have the right to discriminate against protected classes which include race, gender, religion, age, political affiliation or sexual preference. They could have refused to make the cake for no reason, but they clearly pointed out that they were discriminating against gay people. I also believe that this was taken to court, and the baker was ordered to bake the cake.
Refusing service to a Klan member or Nazi is perfectly legal, as they are not protected groups.
@yonderTheGreat no, I'm a manager in America. What I quoted was federal law. The Klan and nazis have the right to say what they want but businesses can legally refuse them. Because they're both classified as hate groups and not political ideologies.
Most liberals read the founding documents. Conservatives talk about them but like the Bible have only read the first sentence...
Along the same lines, every atheist and open-minded Christian has read and analyzed the Bible thoroughly. Fundamentals rarely know anything about it except whatever quote taken out of context that supports a bigoted belief that they already held. Of course it's easier to canonize something that you've never read, because then you can never question it.
@@andrewjohnson6716 back in my student politics days, we used to 'composite' motions that had been submitted to get them ready for debate; only rule was we had to use the words of the existing motions and amendments, but that meant we could completely change the meaning of a motion by careful editing. It's a bit like how some god-botherers treat the bible with their selective editing and taking everything out of context...
@@andrewjohnson6716 Yep, fundamentalists rarely know anything about anything, that's the whole point of being a fundamentalist bigot. Just accept what you're told without ever thinking for yourself and questioning it.
This could be the silliest comment of 2018.
Except they stopped at the first amendment. Let me know when they're ready to read the second one...
I'm so used to the beep that my brain cancels is out and replaces it with a swear word.
I GOT INTO THE BUTTPLUG BUSINESS TO STOP SODOMY ROFLLLLLLL
Jim Jefferies is about to bring late night back for CC
Speaks about free speech whilst being censored. Good job America.
Pyotr Alexeyevich Kropotkin Touché komrad, although in the United States journalists don't disappear as much, nor does hate crime go as unpunished as in Russia.
Pyotr Alexeyevich Kropotkin corporations are allowed censor you. If you want to work for certain companies you have to follow certain guidelines. Like he said it doesn't give you freedom from consequences just means the government can't arrest you for it.
Pyotr Alexeyevich Kropotkin he's allowed to say it - the company he works for is allowed to make decisions about whether to air it or bleep it ... this is not mind blowing stuff
Can I get uhhhhh.....Glasnost and Perestroika?
Pyotr Alexeyevich Kropotkin
I DO HAVE TO SAY,..
we have a rating system.
It is what it is.
But by ALLOWING him to say those words,.. And then bleeping them. It allows even our Younger Crowd to take it as it is.
Kids Love Bleeps ☺☺☺
...and they ain't stupid hehe...
So it's all good
“It goes against my religious beliefs”. So what?
SadieBear the Steeler Fan Heiress Because freedom of religion is protected
SadieBear the Steeler Fan Heiress So they don’t have to make them a gay cake.. Whether it’s because of religious beliefs or not.
I just love when those particular people in America bitch about their "religious freedoms", like pharmacists refusing to allow customers access to birth control (or even access to another worker who'll give them birth control), when what they really mean is they only want to do half their job. If being a pharmacist violates your religious beliefs, fine, don't be a pharmacist... but don't get a job as a bacon taste tester then complain the job violates your religious freedoms as a Jew/Muslim.
The Joker Your rights end where someone else’s begins. You can belief in whatever religion or beliefs you want. You can not violate someone’s rights because of that.
Hun Ta I don’t recall people having a right to force others to perform actions that they don’t want to do..
The key difference is that the government cannot enforce the consequences.
Republican here. All the First Amendment says is that government cannot censor your speech, provided it's within the confines of the law. You are not protected from any public or private consequences of what you say. NFL players kneeling? No problem! Government can't do jack. Are they fair game to be shit on by fans for doing so? Yup. Are they fair game to be fired? Yup, they're private employees.
Everything in the Bill of Rights is a restriction on government. And it's beautiful.
Alan Nguyen The example you gave is not hate speech, so of course the government can’t do anything about it. The Westboro Baptist Church can picket outside your loved ones funeral and you can’t do jack.
If you are being silenced what does it matter who is doing it?
@@giveryourall5413 That made NO sense whatsoever.
Nick T Haha my comment made no sense? Okay son, seeing as you’re struggling with basic comprehension, let’s break down my comment piece by piece and point out what your brain struggles to fathom. Bless you.
The obvious answer if you're a baker (any baker, not just the bigoted idiots) is to draw up a list of the things you will put on a cake. Then post that and tell customers you don't do custom lettering; they have to pick something on the list. It should be an expansive list, including several nice wedding phrases, but no custom phrases and no names. That's what I would do, and I'd be happy to make a cake for a gay wedding. It keeps things simple; they always get complicated when customization enters the picture, no matter what you're making or selling.
That probably would make your shop less competitive ... It's fairly standard to sell customizable cakes.
But honestly, i couldn't give a shit about that baker.
First time seeing his show, amazing!!
Love his humorous analogies!!!
I love his new format. Pity they have to censor it though. It should just have a warning at the beginning saying
*"Not suitable for Christians or children"*
Woah man thats xenophobic...
May I inquire as to what this fine gentleman has felt pressured into editing out of such a fine post?
Warren NZ -
You're half-right mate - I think most children could handle it!! :)
+Briavel1 In terms of belief in imaginary beings yes Christians = Children
Christianphobia!
Running Back. lol
Even though Running Back is a Quarterback.
Was looking for a comment about this
The natives say indian
@@kirbfruit it's a factually incorrect term tho
Actual Indians exist ya know (and way outnumber Native Americans)
Ok, I want Comedy central to know I unambiguously want to see as much Jim Jefferies as they want to provide. I intend on watching on RUclips, because, come on, do I even have to explain? But yes, please more Jim Jefferies. I'm American, and I approve this Aussie!
This dude is fantastic. He is quickly becoming a comedic hero here in America. That about sums it up,right ?
this shit is great. I'll leave it at that
When my college is in the news but for a bad reason... Goddammit UD.
Time to switch schools
We don ‘t even know the words for our own Constitution..So much could have been done with the material too!! Love me some of you, Jim!!
I can call you a BEEP and you can call me a BEEP and I can tell you to BEEP off and you can tell me to BEEP off, so BEEP off America, and I'm allowed to say that!
Well, by law yes. But the beeps certainly sound somewhat ironic in that message...
The thing people forget about the wedding cake thing is that it's a public business. That means that, no, you can't refuse service to anyone for any reason you please. There are specific cases that are protected by law: you can't refuse service on the basis of religion, race, sexual orientation, age (as long as they're over 18 or 21, depending on the nature of the business), and a few other categories. Refusing service for any reasons beyond that is fair game, however. Choice of employer and political affiliation, for example, aren't protected classes.
It's the same reasoning behind saying that a business can't refuse service to black people.
It's so weird to see Jim sober.
Gecko That was sober????!!!
One of my friends is an Aussie... It's sober if they've only had two bottles of Whiskey...
It's also the same for my relatives...
He's a lot better this way. His sloppiness when he was drunk was off-putting.
I love this Jim Jefferies 👍🏻 . Exactly 1 year after he started. Now its an Awesome show 👍🏻
Second Amendment advocates always bring up responsibility. They are the ones who will verify that the right to own a gun comes with responsibility each time they reply with 'why should responsible gun owners be penalized because criminals irresponsibly use guns?'
Well, how do you check responsibility? It is pretty much given then that irresponsibility must have consequences. The very word comes from return action. Consequences.
So why is it that Congress has outlawed the tracking of gun sales. Almost all guns are manufactured legally. Yet somehow down the line they become 'illegal...' but only once they get deadly. In most cases, the owner purchased it still technically legally, but then used it either to commit suicide, or murder. And yet nobody is held responsible.
If the government issues a license to drive to a known alcoholic, the clerk, the manager, the statesman who voted for the law will all be fired. With guns, no license needs to be issued, just a background check, and if that person commits murder, having been known as mentally unstable, or a domestic abuser, who is held responsible? Nobody! Sometimes not even the murderer because of the 'insanity' plea. Certainly none of the sellers.
'Oh I'm sorry, my client didn't know that robbing a bank and shooting anyone in the way was wrong. He was insane. He only posted six or seven times about loving to shoot at people. If anything, that proves they are insane. Let them off the hook. And that means you should not discriminate against them for wanting to buy more guns. They need all the protection they can get!'
...but only once they get deadly. In most cases, the owner purchased it still technically legally, but then used it either to commit suicide, or murder. And yet nobody is held responsible.
This is one of the stupidest statements ever uttered. Rob a bank, go to jail, murder someone go to the electric chair, commit suicide go to hell.
I've worked with Jim before, great guy, and I'm excited for this show. BUT WHO IS DOING THE GRAPHICS?! DA FAQ?! Hire me for half the rate of whatever you pay those ppl.
With the exception of Colbert and Trevor all great late/ early hosts are great!
I have made this exact point when arguing in comment sections of videos wherein other comedians are b*tching that their rights are being violated. They complain that PC culture is going too far, and point to examples when people have lost endorsement/book deals or shows. They bring up freedom of speech, but other than Jeffries, I don't think most comedians understand what it means. The freedom of speech pertains to the government, in that they cannot arrest or beat you for expressing yourself; it does not mean that you get to say whatever you want without consequence... the consequences are just social, not legal. The rest of us also have free speech, and if we don't like the way that you express yourself, we are free to express our dislike. We also have freedom of association, and can choose not to associate with you in any private way (including business dealings like endorsements, just not public services).
For example, the KKK should have the right to express themselves by holding a rally. However, the rest of us also have the right to express ourselves by protesting the rally (having a counter-rally). If I see you being part of the KKK, I am free not to have you as my spokesman for my company, not shop at your store (boycott), not to invite you to be a member of my private club, and not have you over for dinner. Those are all examples of a social cost, as opposed to a legal cost, like having the police beat you or arrest you because of something you said (or a sign you were holding read). I think this is a reasonable balance. You get to say whatever you want without the government getting involved, but so do the rest of us. Unless you are a business open to the public, you also do not have to have business dealing with anyone. If you want to, you can also stop socializing with someone. All of this just seems to be other people expressing their rights, but when it happens to a comedian or pundit because of something they said, all of a sudden it is about their freedom of speech being infringed upon.
Maher might be on the wrong side of this issue, but Jeffries isn't. Sure, I would agree that people are a bit too sensitive in my opinion, and that "trigger warnings" and "safe spaces" seem ridiculous to me, but that is others expressing their freedoms. I do not have to obey trigger warnings or go to safe spaces, so let others do what they want... it is kind of like how I view religion- as long as you don't force others to be involved, feel free to do whatever you want. If they were banning material rather than providing warnings about content, then I would have a problem; or if they wanted to make everywhere a "safe space", again I would have issues with that. To me, though they seem ridiculous, I can find parallels that already exist when it comes to religion- their safe spaces are called churches, and they demanded rating systems for TV and movies to advise parents who want to shield their kids. I also disregard those ratings and avoid those churches, so why wouldn't I do the same with trigger warnings and safe spaces?
quantumperception too long
quantumperception you wrote: " it is kind of like how I view religion- as long as you don't force others to be involved, feel free to do whatever you want." But forcing others to be involved is quite central to almost every religion, especially when it comes to children. In fact religions would die out in a couple of generations without that forcing.
+Dangerous Joy How did you get that from what I wrote? I am for parental warnings and trigger warnings. I will disregard them, since I am an adult who may choose to do so, but I have no problem with the audience being warned so that they can avoid content that they won't like, or protect their kids. If anything, I like them because they also help me find what adult content I want- I am way more likely to go to a movie that is rated R than I am to watch a G or PG one. If a comedy show/movie has a warning that cancer, rape, AIDS, or domestic violence will be featured/discussed, I am more likely to see it, because I consider anyone who can make such dark subjects funny to be a master. For instance, Tig Nitaro made me laugh about her cancer, and Jim Jeffries and Louis CK both have great jokes involving rape. I love the talent it takes to find humor in horrible stuff, but if you had a love one die of cancer or had survived a rape, I of course have no problem with you being warned and avoiding their stand-up, or shielding you kids from such subjects. So long as you don't try to stop me from watching them, I have no problem with it. I actually appreciate them trying to inform their audience- some may use it to steer away from adult/dark subjects, but people like me will use them to find those adult/dark subjects. Seems like a win-win.
+Daneelro Children are of course their parents responsibility, and that is where the forcing comes into play. A parent making their kids go to church or religious school is different than a religion forcing an adult, or even a kid, to attend. I may not like parents teaching their kids falsehoods, but that is their right. If the religion itself was that one forcing the kid, or adult, to take part, that is totally different, and that is where I would have a problem. I was forced to go to church and Catholic school, but the Catholic church didn't force me, my parents did. That was how they chose to raise me, and was their right. As an adult, I now no longer attend church; I am now going back to school, and have avoided religious schools. That is my choice, and so long as I am not forced to participate, I have no problem with others choosing to attend church or religious schools, or parents forcing their kids to do so.
I've heard of 'brain drain' from Australia into the US, but what exactly would this be?
ah no JIM! what the fuck have you done to your teeth?!?!?!
benito tommassi fixed them?
Cletus's Buttplug Emporium.......holy shit that one of the funniest things I've ever seen! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!
There are people I find absolutely reprehensible like Alex Jones, Gavin Mkkkinnes, President Trump, etc. but I fully support their right to freedom of expression. Freedom of speech doesn't only include speech that you agree with. That's the whole point of it.
"The slants" 😂😂😂
If there’s one thing I’ve learned in my short life it’s never underestimate the stupidity of humans.
Iv'e had a long life and have come up with the same conclusion .
You will always fall short of the truth though.
@@solstice2318 Not sure what you mean .
Edit . I do include myself , i have done many stupid things .
Jim Jefferies is my favorite Aussie! Nails it every time!
Netherlands: Jim!!! you are an inspiration to me.! i was waiting soo lang for your own show.
The netherlands has hiss show on CC two. But allot of people don't know jim as well as i do. huge comedy fan!
I wish they would start a new season for jim jeffreys
@Frosty Ghost hhahaha
you have the right to say what you want, but as you will be responsible for your statement, you may want to preserve the right to remain silent because your words can and will be used against you. see 1st amendments best friend, 5th amendment. Responsibility for your actions. Shalom.
Kirk Broglin Check out Jim Jefferies on the Avi Yemeni Show. In it Jim draws a pic of Muhammad. He’s such a funny rat.
We had a similar cake baking case in the UK. A northern Irish gay couple wanted a wedding cake, the baker was happy to make it, BUT refused to ice a pro gay marriage slogan. Now it went through the courts who found in favour of the couple, but there is a great deal of unease about the decision being tyrannical. The baker was not discriminating by refusing service, only by refusing to ice a slogan he did not morally agree with. There’s been an appeal which was refused, but there is also a judicial review on the cards as the case could force a gay baker to ice a cake with anti homosexual biblical quotes, or a Jewish baker to ice SS runes.
That's interesting when someone from somewhere else has to explain to us when not to use the First Amendment good job Jim
How ironic that a bit about freedom of speech has so many beeped out words in it...
I am a RN and they had us sign a document in which it details subjects that are not allowed on our social media because my words may insulted a patient or family member of that patient. It is their company and they don’t want specific subjects or topics represented by their employees. It’s fine with me, if one day I choose to say something shitty, i still can, but I may not have a job in the morning.
This should be on daily.
Actually, unfortunately, hate speech is more important than knowing when to shut up. Hate let's you know the first amendment is in tact and working while being quiet can and does occur under any and all forms of government.
@ZionHillCalling Oh, yeah?
Told him. 😂🤣😃
I'm generally liking this video, but the reason I'm actually making an effort is the fact that yes - by the age of 40 - take some action to rectify the orgasm situation. I'm not certified to modify your antidepressant prescription. Talk to your pharmanazist or your psychologatrist.
His dramatic hand gestures in this segment reminds me a lot of lewis black.
Jim welcome to America...love you buddy...
Damn Jim, you look good, kinda less fucked up.
Plot twist: there’s a lot of jims
Fun fact, the girl from the West Burro Baptist church is Megan Felps. She left the church after her grandfather died,
One of the most important shows on TV right now and funniest, glad he's allowed to be himself and the network didn't try to do a chapelle show on him
That's hilarious cake shop owners refusing to serve gay's - that's half your clientele. Way to ruin a business.
Hilarious part is that he forgot to mention the supreme court ruled in the cake shop ownered favor.
It was only wedding cakes they refused to make for gay people, nobody refused to do business with gays other than wedding cakes.
It's their business, their choice. Bill Burr agrees with me.
@daAnder71 Nobody gives a fuck, douche.
The irony is that liberal minded people want the government to FORCE these businesses to stay in business by baking the cakes anyway. I agree that they should be able to refuse service to anyone for any reason. They will ruin their business themselves. Let the free market work. It will weed out the bigots and racists
Wasn't the cake thing years ago? Shouldn't we just make a law specifically for such a scenario. The bakery got a lot of internet heat, that should be punishment enough. It's not like they have a monopoly on wedding cakes either.
Also Chic fil la had an anti gay marriage event a few years ago, NATIONALLY. No ones pushing the chain restaurant but everyone is dog pilling a mom and pop shop on ONE instance??? Jesus Christ
Drill chic fil a got its fair share of hate for that
@@liamsmith331 It did? Cause that was nationally, and no one talks about it today.
This small business did this and people bring it up years later. I read they moved out of the town and set up shop elsewhere under a different name.
Chic-fil-la has opened two new spots in Columbus Ohio (not a large city). I doubt Chic is hurting that much long term.
@@Dennis0is0Mr1Swag I may wrong but i believe they have changed their tune a bit in response. I can only speak from my own experience but a lot of my gay friends were not at all happy with chic-fil-a and still joke about it from time to time. I dont go there myself, thats all i can control but i dont go out to eat at that sort of place anyway so i wouldnt call it much of a sacrifice.
Someone having done something i dont like before doesnt make me okay with people doing it again. Who knows why this story has caught as much attention as it did? Maybe because chic-fil-a doesnt really have any way of knowing you're gay when you ask for tendies unless you are literally making out with your boyfriend in line, anything to do with marriage makes divulging that information necessary.
I just don't see how this is really an example of inconsistency on the part of the LGBT+ individuals and allies if they are upset about it, if that is in fact what you are getting at. It doesn't sound like thats what you mean but just saying.
My favorite Jim!
When Jim's at his good spirits, he is the best among all the night shows' hosts. Live long and prosper sir
Jim with his hair done and in a suit??? The end is nigh...
Michae right
Jim is right just because you have freedom of speach does not give people the right to act like arse holes though some think that's exactly what it means
That was so well done.
Jim is amazong
no comments...really?
0:15 seconds into the video, and I had to pause it because I was facepalming so hard. How can people be so stupid? Seriously! How is it physically possible for people like that to even remember to breath? What does their brain even look like? It's like [Adult Swim], 90's MTV, and Ren and Stimpy's creators all got together to create *the* singular stupidest cartoon of all time, except it already exists in real life. Any hope I had left for humanity just lept out the window, probably to its death, and frankly, I can't blame it.
The first amendment is the best thing about the US, I wish we had it in Canada!
If you don't like what someone says, don't listen!
"Plugging all the butts up"
Lol
I wish the people saying "freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequence" would be as understanding when people are fired for their race or their sexuality.
Well there is a very big differance, being gay or black is not something you can do anything about, were as saying something is a choice that we all make, if someone CHOOSES to say something 'out of place' or 'disrespectful' the buisness owner has the right to fire them. And firing someone over something out of their control is unreasonable and wrong.
If they got fired because of their race, how did they get hired in the first place?
I like Jim. He's an American in my eyes. We may not see eye to eye on "guns" but, I like him just fine.
Goorpijp Wessel well that escalated quickly
Goorpijp Wessel I think that says a lot about you.
Nope, that says a lot about American gun idiocy, which actually kills actual toddlers, and then denies responsibility.
Goorpijp Wessel And how is mental health going where you're At? Laughing at gunned down toddlers? You're sick. There's no excuse for that. It's one thing to say we have a serious gun issue and children are dying but, that's not what's going on wth you. You're not only laughing at deaths but, the deaths of toddlers. Yet gun owners are the bad people? Ok...At least we don't laugh when kids die. Not even the evil scary gun owners. I won't go any further into this with you but, take care and good luck.
I will enjoy my guns. And if one happens to go crazy and kill someone,I'll not like that gun anymore. Where you from by the way?Not gonna lie, the nipple twisting line made me chuckle.
I miss this show!
jim jefferies is the only "late night talk show" that I stand behind, the medium might be dying, but Jim is giving new life into a reformed comedy style. Wish he had his show back tho..
I am so glad to have this beautiful son of a bitch in my country. No, Aus, you can not have him back.
Lol? Why do you have to ruin your own business or lose profits just because you disagree with someone's religion or belief? Someone pays you for a wedding cake... go and make the damn cake!
waste25sec It will potentially hurt their business but they have absolutely every right to that decision. It’s their business after all.
Have you also noticed that the mainstream media likes to report on these Christian bakeries whilst completely ignoring Muslim bakeries who’ll refuse the exact same requests?
Devil8355, he wasn't talking about their rights to refuse service, he was making a simple, yet logical comment on running a buisness.and the fact that these buisness owners are dumb enough to refuse money for a cake.
- - Everyone knows that it’s a stupid business practice to kick customers out because of their sexual orientation.
I just wanted to point out the double standard the mainstream media has when they witch hunt Christian Bakeries whilst ignoring the Muslim Bakeries who refuse the exact same requests.
Yeh i see your point, well it just goes to show how much bias and bullshit the mainstream media spouts.
Kevin Fox “(Ie the vast majority of them)”.
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Yup, for some reason folks forget there are consequences to exercising freedom...
I often find myself reminding people: "You know, you also have the right to remain silent."
Speech is protected speech regardless of its content. Once you start banning SOME speech where do you draw the line?
Is that so??? ok try yelling Allah Akbar in an airport terminal and see how it goes, I wanna bet you are not gonna do it again despite of your so called free speech.
Any speech that directly causes injury or violence is illegal. I can't tell people that there's a bomb on a plane and get away with it. I also can't scream at a crowd of people to "kill that fucker" until they do it, and be okay because freedom of speech.
Somewhere... Anytime somebody asks "Where does it stop?" the answer is always somewhere... You may give your kid a kit-kat bar but you wouldn't let them snort cocaine...
Collin McLean
While that is mostly true, a ban on offensive speech is certainly a slippery slope because offense is entirely subjective and entirely non-quantifiable.
Case by case basis, which is how legal matters are resolved in this country. For instance, the classic answer is you can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater. You can't use speech that directly endangers lives; you cannot legally encourage anyone to commit a crime. That slippery slope argument simply does not hold (just as it doesn't hold for any subject).
A baker that refuses to sell cake to a gay couple, can you spot the irony there? Not to be homophobic or anything but I thought most of the people working in that were gay. Lol.
Do you know what "gay" means?
Victor Wu happy
Talking about irony - gay couple wants their wedding cake to be made by a homophobic zealot?
Thats not being gay, thats masochism...
uegvdczuVF I see your point, but if you open a business selling goods to the public, you should be willing to serve the public regardless of who they are or what they believe or how they conduct their personal life. You are there to provide a service to all who walk through your door. Now if you wish to open a private business that only caters to members only and people must pass muster under your rules, then fine. You can discriminate all you like. But to blatantly open your doors to the general public, you cannot discriminate just because you choose to do so. We as a nation already went through this with the Civil Rights Act where public businesses wanted to discriminate against blacks and refuse them service. Same thing.
Malcolm X had the best take on this during the times of "sitting in" diners and demanding service. Are you really going to eat something made by an angry man who dislikes you? I wouldnt. Politics or no politics....I wouldnt.
Love his acccccent 🙂
Hate speech doesn’t legally exist, it is simply speech which you find offensive. What constitutes as offensive differs from person to person, and therefore cannot be defined. It’s dangerous to punish people for a crime which cannot be objectively defined.
Some of these arguments presented have been done to death and the free speech arguements always wins. Red skins thing, they surveyed thousands of native Americans, the vast majority don't care, I think the Native American community has more to think about that a fucjing sports franchise's name. The gay wedding cake thing, well I don't want to force anyone to do anything they don't want to do. I don't agree with them, and people who hold these views will see less business as a result. So I don't care, you're free to think and say what you want, doesn't mean people will listen or respect you, free speech is completely free, stop trying to peg it back
Well, there are of course functions with the obligation of being indiscriminate, like doctor or politician.
The Litter Bug 1967 act, can't discriminate against customers if you run a public business. The cake shop owner was acting unconstitutionally and illegally.
Also, if I keep telling you that "I'm going to kill you", you might enjoy the possibility of legal action against me. As a side note, I am getting tired of pointing out obvious shit to people on RUclips. Get your brains in order already.
About the cake shop, it's a shop, a public shop. so this meams if a gay couple wants a cake, legally he is obligated to make the cake as a shop keeper, now if it was just some random dude walking in the street then yea he can say no to baking a cake for random people
+XxZigiixX Public you mean state owned/government owned and unless the government is handing out pastries then he retains his right to deny service
Freedom of speech is part of all democracies and not unique to the US (even if 'muricans believe so..). ALL democratic countries share that part in their constitutions.
Now, since it's part of the democratic process, it also implies that YOU CAN'T FUCKING USE IT FOR NON-DEMOCRATIC PURPOSES! If you want to be part of democracy, you'll have to follow the rules. It's that simple. So, no, freedom of speech doesn't mean you can go on a racist rampage and claim you have the right to do so. Racism is against the law in any democratic country worth the name of it.
BadTrip
"All democratic countries have freedom of speech, not just the US"
"Any democracy worth its salt jails people for thoughtcrimes"
These are not compatible statements. Freedom if Speech includes the freedom to be racist. If you ACT on that racism through hate crimes or discrimination in housing or hiring you can be punished for your ACTIONS, but not for your speech.
The United States is NOT a democracy, and it's not supposed to be. We are a federal Constitutional republic. A pure democracy is mob rule, where the majority can simply vote away the rights of the minority.
Absolutely, all speech has a consequence. I'm talking about government censorship of speech. Any employer can fire you or refuse to hire you for what you say, schools can expel you for saying anything, and a business can refuse service to you. That's 100% fair game. The idea behind freedom of speech is that it protects all speech (with the exception of egregious illegal actions) from government censorship, even unpopular speech that could be considered offensive, distasteful, etc. The problem with hate speech laws is that there is no hard-line concrete standard across the board, and you would have to turn to government to regulate speech. That is the antithesis of America's founding. If I found a business that refused to serve Asians, I would gladly take my business elsewhere, spread the word of the policy, and let the discriminatory business fail. We believe that once the government has the power to censor speech from one end of the spectrum, then you have given it the ability to censor everyone. There is no such thing as a right to not be offended, as absolutely anything can be deemed offensive, and the lines become arbitrary. Simply put: We have the right to hoot, holler, and swing our fists as much as we want, but that right ends at the tip of another person's nose.
Alan, just because a John Birch Society video says something does not make it true. The USA is a Constitutional Democracy.
Alan: saying it is one thing. Yelling it at somebody all day is quite another. It is harassment and is not protected. I really doubt that you would not care if somebody were screaming insults at you all day. I also doute your Vietnamese last name is your real name, but I can't prove it.
Freedom of speech should come with responsibility and respect for others should be paramount.
5:53 'MURICA **Star Spangled Banner Intensifies**
The wedding shop owner has every right to refuse service and run the business as they see fit. Just because you exist does not mean you are entitled to be served. If they truly believe it is against their religion to be gay they have a right to refuse service to their potential customers hedonistic lifestyles.
Freedom of speech, press, RELIGION, petition, and assemble are guaranteed rights in America - and forcing the owner to go against their religion is infringing on their rights.
If anything the customer should find someone else - that is the great thing about capitalism - competition.
Nick Voncloft Your rights end where someone else’s begins. Freedom of religions means you can believe in whatever you want. It doesn’t mean you can break laws or violate someone’s rights. I can believe I should kill people for religious reasons, but I would still go to jail for killing someone. You have the right to believe whatever you want. You do not have the right to force your beliefs on other people or discriminate against them. Also, the religion says nothing about not being gay. So, it’s not really following religion to discriminate against gay people, especially since the religion says to treat everyone equally and with respect.
No, he does not. Business owners are not free to refuse service to anyone they like. There are laws against discrimination in this country and businesses have to follow them. Don't like it? Go spend a year in an actual theocracy and see what life is like. Otherwise, you'll just have to put up with that pesky Bill of Rights. Frustrating, I know.
There's a big difference between "I believe this thing and though you don't, you have to respect that", and "you are this thing, and I believe that, in an ideal world, what you are shouldn't exist, but you have to respect that". You can have opinions and beliefs, but when your beliefs are founded on cruelty towards others -- infringing on the rights of other people -- that's the line. If you want freedom of speech, it's your responsibility to know the difference. I'm just letting you know, because I don't think you do.
Ok. So lets say an atheist baker refuses to help a Christian couple.
Jason Montgomery Um what's your point? In this scenario the atheist group is at fault, since the your disbelief at god shouldn't be affecting your professional career. And it's the same other way around.
Believing in something doesn't give you the right to not do your job without factual reasonings. Gay people are born that way and that baker isn't born with a bible. He serves hetero black, asian, Hispanic etc. couples and he even made weeding cakes for fucking dogs, so yup he's discriminating. Last time I checked you can happily be a dick but please in your own time while not effecting others.
Comedy central is ruining jim jefferies for me.
Are you saying that what he says isn't his own opinion? That's just fucking retarded.
@@TheNotoriousDUDE Jim is an atheist OP is basically saying I'm a Christian and this thing triggers me.
I'm pretty sure you're replying to the wrong comment, Randy.
Hey, it's a steady paycheck. Beats going on tour.
Omg Jim has the tv host hair the transformation has begun
He's an honorary American in my eyes. Thank you Jim Jeffries.
I liked him when he was less political.
When the hell was that?
Ah never watched Jim before have you?
Tsk tsk... you are living in your country and you're American and yet all you do is talk trash about the administration and your country. Your president can't do that alone. besides it's you, American people who voted for that man. I'm not an American and I don't care about your country much BUT you see you have to do something other than looking at his mistakes. DO SOMETHING REAL AND FOR THE GOOD.✌
LegitimateKill tsk tsk... yah it's what you do. obviously!!!
LegitimateKill love your country. Don't let any other nation to remind you that.
Khalifa's point was that you're all talk no action and should change that. I'm not surprised at all that you missed this 100% and instead read it as shitting on your country.
Daneelro thank goodness here is someone who is not dumb. Who can actually comprehend English. 😚💪
I don't need to love my government to love my country. as corrupt as the world is everyday you didn't hurt someone is a good day