I dont think it was a mistake that they didn't ask for a jury trial. He knows he can't beat the case legitimately. Legitimacy is not his game. His only hope is to get a corrupt judge that can be bribed. It's much easier to bribe or manipulate a single judge than an entire jury.
@Legaleagle You should do a real lawyer reacts for the Bluey episode “family meeting”!!! It packs an impressive amount of trial 101 into 8 minutes. Witness tampering, cross examination, etc, and it’s cute and wholesome. Also because you seem like you could use a break from irl politics 😂
I don't think valuing Maralago at $750 million was overvaluing. $75 million for the property and $675 million for the national secrets stored in the ballroom and bathroom.
puts a different spin on his claim of "i could've sold it to Saudi Arabia for any price" yeah i bet he could when it had nuclear missile designs as reading material in the master bathroom.
It's been such a wonderful turn of events seeing progressive liberals interested in national security and foreign military action, while conservatives clamor for spending money and resources on Americans instead. It's almost like playing musical chairs and they each sat down in each other's seats.
Sure. Though it's just the usual situation that there's no need for "allegedly" when the person has been found guilty (criminal trial) or liable (civil).
@@Wakawakawakawakawakawakawaka7 If the intended point was "You know it's bad when you've been found guily/liable", then that point is so obvious that it's barely worth making.
@@beeble2003 I think it's more so that lawyers aren't allowed to specul8 in court. No matter how 'certain' the case or evidence is, lawyers are still supposed to, (as almost a matter of formality/professionalism,) say 'allegedly' to leave room for mistakes. 8ut when even the lawyers feel the case is so clear cut there's no need for the formality of protective vagueness, you KNOW you're screwed.
The irony is that he probably would've gotten away with all this if he had never gotten into politics. America doesn't seem to care about the illegal shennanigans of the very rich, but Trump brought attention to himself in the worst possible way and insists on keep doing so.
He'll probably get away with it anyway, since the AG presented no witnesses who testified that they relied on Trump's representations. Judge Engoron allowed the AG to simply speculate and speculation is inadmissible evidence, so I would not be surprised if the judgment is reversed on appeal.
@@scottmatheson3346 Well, it wasn't so much Hunter himself that brought the attention so much as a conga line of GOP members that have claims on claims, but no concrete evidence. The most the guy was hit with was two late instances of taxes (the thing that politicians hate, and have tried to kill the IRS over), and mishandling a gun (which the GOP doesn't care about, to the surprise of no one, since they're bought out by the NRA).
It's beyond ironic that a shady businessman who's being busted for fraud and misquoting property values would be screwed by the fact that his own lawyer was cutting corners
I'm kind of really pissed how low down workers are on that hierarchy of debt repayment. I think unpaid labor should be the first priority over other creditors.
Trickle down economics: the reasoning is that if other creditors don't get their money they won't be able to exploit theur own minions, making even more people not have money. That's not how it actuslly works ofc, but that's how the law sees it
Unless it changed recently 'payroll' always comes first. Not paying payroll is a criminal offense, and it is the last thing done just before declaring bankruptcy.
Costs of administering the bankruptcy, claims by secured creditors, and debts for alimony & child support have priority in bankruptcy. Wages, salaries, unpaid leave and commissions (up to $10,000, if accrued within 6 months of cessation of business) have priority over other unsecured creditors.
The 4th tier on his chart cover's Trump's employees. Contractors and subcontractors in the 2d tier are secured creditors, and they pay their own employees.
"Trump's lawyer Alina Habba forgot to check the box to request a Jury Trial. She really earned that 'F' tier ranking." - no medical procedure exists to treat a burn like that.
So my take on this is that this would have been such an egregiously incompetent mistake that, were it an actual mistake, Trump would fire her and call for her disbarment. The fact that he hasn't done so implies that this was the plan. He needed something to whine about when he loses. His next move is to complain about how he was cheated and how the judge who ruled against him is totally corrupt. It's easier to do that than argue against a jury verdict.
Maybe people running too far into the grey area, or well beyond it into the black, have a more restricted choice of lawyers and accountants willing to represent them, and can't always avail themselves of the best advisers. It's probably more of a "transactional" thing at that end of the spectrum, like transactional love.
Any body else just wishing all these corrupt banks and shady corporations would get hit this hard for their misdeeds? Tired of seeing rampant fraud and corruption punished with a slap on the wrist fine.
And all those in the gov that have overstepped also. He had/has friends and even those he acted as if weren't friends to ( hillary and Bill). The laptop and it's owners father etc (those in both parties) you know drane the swamp that is Washington DC. Would be nice 🥰
The banks that loaned Trump money based on the false property values are going to take a hit. He doesn't have enough money to repay the loans and the properties aren't worth enough to cover the loans if they're sold.
@@subliminalphishwell maybe trump shouldn't have been lying and screwing people over for decades to begin with, maybe Clinton's would be held accountable. Now it just seems like a child getting caught and trump(and his followers) are going "b-b-but they did it too!" And you didn't do anything about any of it before hand? Sus
"our attempt at fraud wasn't successful so we shouldn't be punished. You wouldn't jail someone for attempted bank robbery!" This is literally sideshow Bob logic.
A beautiful idea, but the reality would be pretty nasty-The Onion is part of the entity formerly known as The Gizmodo Group, whose CEO is noted Herb Jim Spanfeller.
Few years back one of our corporate clients tried to steal our patents in court of law. In the meantime they tried to make us look as unreliable bussiness partner by deliberately damaging delivered goods and returning them as non compliant with order and also noncompliant to IEC standards. They were caught red handed creating false evidence. Court have dismissed all of their claims and called them legally untrustworthy. One week later client company value was so low, that it was legally transferred to our ownership as part of compensation and it was not even enough to cover all losses they created, as their market value plumetted 100-fold. Don't do stupid things in front of court of law.
It seems to me that the defense of "I am not guilty because people had the choice whether or not to believe me, so it's not my fault" is a common one Trump and his lawyers use.
@@QuantumHistorianto be fair, “it’s not a lie because no one would believe us” is a genuine defense. It’s just a bad defense when you call your program news and aren’t obviously satire. The Onion lies all the time and that’s fine. Jon Oliver mixes lies and truths but tries to make the difference clear. Fox just said whatever they wanted and mixed it all together. And official financial statements are a bad place for the lies.
@@easternsuneasternsun171usually the ultra rich don’t like to have their wealth examined, and trump basically had a magnifying glass on him for four years
@@disabledchatzen5276 Its not about Trump Exploiting the common man that got him into this. Unfortunately. Laws tend to kind of favor people that do that to an extent. It was the Falsify of amounts on financial statements. Basically he was Lying to OTHER rich and powerful people. Big No no. And its also the fact that he has been doing it for a LONG time. I am sure the Multiple bankruptcies he has declared with said information will come into play should any of them be in the scoop of the time frame. BUT yeah. Not disagreeing with the need for putting Billionaires under a microscope to make sure its all up and up. But just saying what he is in trouble for here has NOTHING to do with exploiting vulnerable people. (Which yes he has done that) but more with him screwing over OTHER rich and powerful people and companies and Lying to them to get an edge.
It's getting funnier when the lawyers are not even trying to deny anything that the prosecutors say Trump did. They are just throwing words like "total immunity from prosecution" like if that helps their case.
I think this is the logical conclusion of trumpisms. You have this kabal of people that through ignorance or arrogance think they can simply ignore a problem or tell to go away and it will. Then inevitably you encounter a problem immune to your bs and you can’t do anything but dig yourself deeper.
Evoking the longstanding legal right of "Nuh uh!" Papers are being drawn up by Trump's lawyers now to institute the "My client is rubber and opposing council glue" defense.
Glad to see someone pointing out that the CYA clause in the statements saying that "Management is responsible for the financial statements" is to protect us, the accountants, and not the business owners who provide us with fraudulent information. In fact, after Enron and Worldcom, publicly traded companies cannot have the firm that prepares thier books also audit those books. Of course, avoiding audits is why Trump never took his company public, that and he can't risk having a board that could remove him, because they would.
I knew from news articles that things weren't looking good for Trump in regards to this, but hearing it all spelled out like that really captures just how staggeringly bad this can be.
Having to sell off the Trump trademarks is the last straw for badness. Real estate might be good and all, but the one thing that he would never choose to sell is his name, his silhouette, etc.
Legal Eagle has zero credibility because he only goes after Republicans. He completely ignores all the issues concerning Democrats. Notice I didn't say accusations or lying. I don't claim to know with this comment. Im all ears when it comes to what Legal Eagle has to say about all the issues involving Democrats. When anyone only goes after one side, then they can't be impartial. This is common sense.
Rush Limbaugh’s 2.7 acres property containing 3 homes was sold for $155 million. Do you believe that a 17 acres resort that makes yearly $20+ million only worth half of that?
The case has already been appealed and won.. .the judge broke multiple laws in this case including impersonating an expert within a courtroom and appointing himself as representative of a party without permission. Even the supposed "victims" of this crime said that Trump followed the law and their loans had been paid back in full.
I'm more upset that this is only coming to light now, even though there were numerous stories coming to light during his first presidential bid literally telling us ALL of this and how he lied his way into the Forbes list which helped cement his status as a business mogul.
The Forbes thing I'm kinda good with. Some guy calls you up and asks how much you are worth because they are doing a RUclips, er, magazine listicle? You fudge the numbers a bit. Meh. Guys exaggerate their shaft size, they've been doing it for millenia. But fudging your accounting books? Using that to get loans and do real business? That's not okay.
The judge involved in this case violated multiple laws including impersonating an expert when he ignored expert testimony within the court room AND appointing himself as representative of a party without permission. The case has already been appealed and won at both the state and federal level... even the supposed "victims" of this stated that not only did Trump follow the law, but that Trump had repaid the loans in full.
@@phillyphakename1255 that's exactly what the Forbes list was. Being on that list have him access he wouldn't have had other's. So him lying to get into that list is more than "exaggerating shaft size". That's a poor argument. Do better.
@@RndmBad A bank isn't going to give a loan because someone was on a RUclips video about rich people, or at least they shouldn't. And I think they didn't. This court case proves it. They looked at actual accounting documents, not a glorified BuzzFeed article. So again, you lie to some guy? Fine. I mean, I might think less of you because you are claiming something that you are not, but it's pretty low stakes. Systematic financial fraud however, is not low stakes.
Maybe it should be a rule about anyone who runs for president must disclose their taxes or else automatically be disqualified! Politicians has to be hold to a higher bar, so maybe this would be a rule for both senators and governors?
It's so goddamn disgusting, I fret about whether I should declare a room of my flat as work space, though it might not fully apply, and he doesn't just do blatantly illegal stuff to his taxes, he also overvalues everything to several hundred percent!@@unvergebeneid
Trump going political was the worst mistake of his life. You put a target like that on your back, things you and others normally get away with suddenly stop working.
It bothers me how he got away with it for so long… how many others are there like him? Probably the vast majority of the rich… and they get away with at the cost of everyone else.
That's nonsense. Politicians get away with far more than non-politicians. And even when they are completely busted they get away with a slap on the wrist compared to non politicians. His problem wasn't going political, it was having the "wrong" politics. And if that doesn't make not just bells go off, but your entire alarm system. I can't help you.
My dad worked for a Japanese corporate bank back in the 80s and 90s. Trump came to them back then asking for a loan. The Japanese bankers looked at the documents he provided, brought them to their team, and declined. Dad said that Trump was upset and tried to get them to loan him the money, saying something about he was good for the money and how he was successful. They still didn't loan to him because they said that their models showed that his financials were overinflated. So, I'm not sure why this is considered new info. It seems like it should've been well-known. I mean, it was definitely known at Dad's workplace. Edit: Just to clarify, Dad's branch of the Japanese bank was located in NYC.
And that's when he had his most recent bankruptcies, so your dad's company avoided quite the loss there, and that's also why Trump shouldn't be considered to have never harmed anyone. He's stiffed lots of contractors to maintain this illusion and hurt previous lenders even if they're not the current ones.
Because the banks he was working with were dirty as well. They used trump to launder Russian money. He's as dirty as they get. Russia owns him. And Putin wants his money.😂 Careful Donnie don't walk past any high windows!!!!!
It prob didn't make the news either, being over in Japan. And Trump stiffing workers and contractors, Polish immigrants and other little guys, wasn't salty enough for the regular media to cover and stay on top of.
“So, I’m not sure why this is considered new info.” It isn’t, a lot of people knew that Trump was a con artist, specially people from NYC knew. But the idiots that will let him sh*t on their moms didn’t listen so this is where we are now.
I’ve read/watched many news articles about the exaggeration of asset values in these cases, but I never saw those numbers until now. Not only did you show those numbers and how high they were inflated, you _cited_ your sources, among other things. Cold. Hard. Facts. Thank you!
Dude got to live big for decades on the back of and at the cost of innocent people. He hasn't got enough years left in him to make him properly pay for that. In the end, he got to live however he wanted. It is so disgusting
@@horrorhotel46290_"He hasn't got enough years left in him to make him properly pay for that."_ We don't know what's going to happen after we die. He might pay after he dies. The idea that the brain creates the mind's never been proven.
Same here in Germany with our kanzler. He probably did some shady business with a bank and their tax fraud, but who cares? He said " I don't remember" and that's it. If a normal human would do something, he would be chased over the country, put in handcuffs in in jail for 1000 years.
Not even a slap on the wrist, he was somehow allowed to not be cuffed. Imagine a poor person in the same scenario, officers would be kneeling on their neck.
@@lordofthe6string Nah the poor person's punishment would have be proportional to the charges. The accused would have "charged three officers, disabled their body cams, stole their guns, and shot themself in the back twenty seven times".
Unfortunately he's a former president 😔 He will only be on house arrest if that. Poor people go to jail for stealing bread while he's probably going to get away with 2.2 billion dollars in real estate fraud. The MAGAs talk about "two criminal justice systems".... I'm not sure if that's so horrible because it's so Orwellen or the terrible irony. 🤦🏼they have no idea....
Holy shit, it's been so long and Trump has done so much other crap that I COMPLETELY forgot about the real-estate fraud. Imagine having a criminal who's done so much crime you've legit forgotten about their previous accusations that they're only NOW going to trial for
That's the thing, he's been at this con so long he genuinely doesn't know the difference between being a lying, cheating con-man and being a legitimate businessman. He thinks that legitimate business involves lying, cheating, conning, stealing, intimidating, and making shit up to deflect when you're called out on it.
I've said for years that fraud would be what would ultimately nail Trump since, unlike some other things he does, there's objective paper trails with hard evidence he's lied to banks and the government on his financial forms. I even remember way back when Michael Cohen was testifying before Congress that AOC specifically stood out in that hearing because she explicitly took time to ask Cohen detailed questions regarding Trump inflating his property values on financial forms. And I remember thinking to myself that the rest of that hearing was mainly showboating and soundbites, but AOC actually managed to pull out information that state and federal prosecutors could hypothetically use to ultimately charge Trump with fraud. And sure enough, here we are!
I wouldn’t be surprised if they “forgot to check the box” on purpose. When found guilty trump can cry and yell that a “crooked judge” did it to him. Because you know…everyone loves him and a jury would never find him guilty…
@@grmpEqweer I thought this too, but that would actually work in his favor. Double jeopardy applies to this. So if he is convicted and then proves that it was an unfair trial (a mistrial) then everything has to be repealed and he can't be sued for it again. He would in fact get off, scott free, but they didn't go that route. They didn't go the route that would quite literally get him off rather easily because it would not be hard today to prove there was bias against him in a jury. Yet they didn't do that, they didn't go the easy way, which means the lawyer very likely did it on purpose.
So you are okay with a lying and corrupt judge? The lender has them independently assessed, it's not Trump making arbitrary numbers. His lenders said that they were not overvalued but the judge is an idiot or he's corrupt. Or could be both. Developers are pissed off too because if he says that Mar-A-Lago is only worth 18 million then that devalues everything around it also. So yeah he's an idiot.
@@DarkMatterBurrito If lying and corrupt meant properly holding those who commit crimes, then yes. But by definition, no republican judge lies or is corrupt if thats what it means.
@@CreativeName574no, I'm not. But there is such a thing as actual justice and not political revenge which you seem to be okay with no matter if what the judge is saying is objectively false.
Just ask them to do their research on him AND NOT ANYONE ELSE. They love to try to bring other people in saying they did it. Yeah other people did this stuff but he in the hot seat and this is a good start.
@ericstoverink6579 Hey man don't let the media split us up. The whole red vs blue, right vs left just distracts from the fact that its those with power vs those without. There are equally corrupt people, at every level of political office, on both sides of the spectrum.
When a lawyer casts aside the word "allegedly" and just says "it's been proven", you not only know it's indisputable fact, but you also know that person/business has no case to sue. Everyone, Everywhere, clings to the protections the term "allegedly" provides. Also Trump saying "do not believe anything" reminds me of a beautiful quote "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
It should he rewritten to say "The Republican Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
One of my friends works at Colliers International as part of a real estate appraisal team. Our last real drinking binge was when they got it wrong by € 2 million on a € 45 million property. They had to report to their client's board of directors and as he put it: By the time they were done shouting, all his hair was pointed backwards. The concept that someone acting in good faith or with correct information could get a valuation wrong by a factor of 10, is unheard of.
This was the difference between "tax value" and "market value", which are two very different things. Tax value is based on constants whereas market value fluctuates. I use a pool as an example. The pool itself is the tax value. The amount of water included (if any), cleaning services, the condition of the pool, how many people visit, etc, are the market value.
Tax values and market values may indeed be prepared on different bases and therefore give different $ values. Neither of those bases permits the use of incorrect facts though.
You would think a smart person who does shifty business deals would not bring attention to himself by running for president of the United States. He basically signed away his life because of his own ego. He deserves to lose it all and a jail cell.
Crooks k n o w other Crooks sadly it's called capitalism I've often wondered why would anyone want to be president you catch hell from the left you catch hell from the right and your life becomes an open book personally I think Trump was shocked that he won the presidency yes he drew all the attention to himself he used the presidency to enrich himself now the corrupt and Shady business deals are coming to light most certainly appears the long arm of the law has caught up with the shyster
To be fair, the guy has been getting away with everything scotfree for literally his entire life. He's what, in his 70s now? Its a hollow victory to imprison him most likely at the end of his life.
And all of his supporters need to follow suit. We have the records of everyone who voted for him. They are the real .issue. facing America, and even if Trump goes to prison, his supporters will still .exist. That needs to be rectified.
Holy crap I know EXACTLY what Trump was thinking with the Mar-a-lago estate. He was thinking HE personally couldn't develop the property but someone else could. I guarantee that was a loophole he thought he found in those papers he signed.
@dionh70 believe it or not, you can say something famous, and after that, you've said it. Hear me out I know it's confusing. So you see, when a phrase is famous. It's because a lot of people know it, and guess what? That usually means people say it.
@@heszedjim9699 It seems the confusion is on your end. The OP on this thread structured his comment in such a way to imply that he was the original source of the phrase, an implication that others noticed as well, leading them to also comment in opposition to his implication of originality. I hope this helps clear up your confusion.
I love that Trump lied about the value of property on his taxes, then as president, removed the ability for me to deduct the cost of my measly 100 sq ft home office, which I work out of full time.
@@MatthewQuinton We used to have the Standard Deduction as well as itemized deduction for small amounts, like work clothes or a small office space. Trump came in an changed it to one or the other. Effectively taxing working people MORE as most people don't itemize things like yachts but things like work tools that don't add up to more than the Standard Deduction. I was pissed when I did my taxes the first year Trump's tax laws went into effect and I couldn't take deductions that I had for years, but a person itemizing 30,000 ft condos wouldn't care about a measly 10,000 standard deduction being taken away.
@@citronm1405 I don't remember ever being able to take a standard deduction and being able to itemize on the same return. Am I wrong about that? It doesn't make a lot of sense that you would be able to take both because you would effectively be getting a tax break on the same purchase twice.
Except it's worse than that. Saying that nobody was harmed is simply false. The banks _were_ harmed. If Trump had not inflated the value of his properties, he would have received less favourable loan terms. In other words, the banks would have made more profit from him if he'd been honest. Therefore, lying cost the banks money.
Fun Fact: Trump has long held that a large portion of his net worth is not real estate, cash, or stock, but the value of the "Trump" brand. This ruling severely damages that brand.
He also said over and over that he 'did not include the brand value' in his financial statements, when he actually did. He vastly overvalued everything, including his now worthless brand. Many branded Trump properties have sued to remove the branding, because it's cancer now.
All politics aside, everything aside- I believe his brand should be worth negative? For example where I am we hate rogers as an internet service provider, they can offer one hell of a promotional offer and people will still pick anyone else over them from their sheer aweful customer service and lousy reputation. Trump has been known for not paying his employees some of the time, so its always high risk to do any amount of business with the guy. If that is part of his brand, then it should be worth negative? A brand should be recognizable, trustworthy, consistent, trump is only recognizable even from space, but not trustworthy nor consistent except in his inconsistency. So his brand- should reduce the value of the products he sells- not increase it? he has no good will backing him.
Trump’s argument is like saying that speeding at 80mph in a 25mph residential area is legal, because somehow nobody was killed. And anyway, I went to a highway later where the speed limit was 80mph.
Or simply replacing the speed limit signs with ones of your own making, and stating "risk of speed is subjective and depends on the skill of the driver. I could go to any race track and find skilled drivers who could safely navigate going 100 in a 25 zone, thus the zone should accommodate drivers of such skill at all times, even if it's only hypothetical".
@@Real_MisterSir Considering the long list of his bankruptcies, and the fact that most bank refuse to give him any loan due to unreliability and bad credit, he is hardly a skilled racer in this story:D
It's like saying your doublewide is worth $250,000, the bank says $100,000 and loans you money based on that, and then some insane prosecutor says it's worth $1000 and drags you to court for claiming too high, which incidentally isn't illegal but the prosecutor ran on the promise of "getting you" because the rest of the trailer park hates your guts.
the judge claimed that "tax value" and "market value" were the same thing and is in hot water for ignoring expert testimony and appointing himself as representative of a party without permission. Tax value is based on constants because market value fluctuates. Market value is based on the purchasing price as currently valued. let's use a pool as an example. The tax value would be on the pool itself. The market value could include things like: how much water is included, cleaning services, the current condition of the pool, how many people visit the pool, etc As an example, compare market prices of food in different locations. At the supermarket, hot dogs are about a dollar or two. At a ball park or in certain states, they can be five dollars or more. So, which is the market value? $1 or $5? the answer is NEITHER because those are under different conditions and the market value would be determined by either a national average for store price OR based on location.
@@nathanielbass771 I had to do tax and accounting as part of my degree, and what I can remember is that: Tax value and Market Value are not the same, but they also aren't several million dollars apart. Because additions like "water", cleaning services and conditions aren't that big a consideration. Market value still predominantly is valued based on the pool itself. You might get a few hundred dollars to maybe a couple thousand dollars in difference. Trumps valuation is fraud, blatant and brazen. Also There is quite literally no article that has been produced suggesting that the Judge appointed himself as a representative.
@@nathanielbass771 your example doesn't hold water. Trump & co-conspirators weren't claiming that their "hot dog" had different values in different markets. They were claiming that, at the ball park because some people don't buy a $5 hot dog, their hot dog is only worth $1. But when talking to investors they're saying that there's a scenario in which a starving Jeff Bezos would pay $7,000,000 for the same hot dog so the fair market value is $7,000,000. It's a bald face lie if you bother to glance at the facts.
@@nathanielbass771 Fact is, overstating an object's size by a large amount in order to make it appear more valuable, does indicate neither tax nor market value, but an imaginary one. And that's just one point of several.
Nah. It's not that at all. His biggest blunder is never stopping giving them more reasons to hate him. And then reminding everyone they why they hate him whenever something gets their attention and gives him a potential chance to slip away quietly.
@@DarthMcDoomington He should simply just never have touched high politics. No reason for him to actively paint such a target on his back, but he probably felt invincible and reinforced bad behavior due to how much effort it actually took to deal with his fraudulent mannerisms. He's someone who has never been in a position where he couldn't brush off those who told him no. Daddy's money gave him many things, except for the most important life lesson: Everyone can fall, if they keep walking towards the edge.
@@Real_MisterSir You know how rich boomers and gen-xers are, only THEIR generation has ever struggled for anything, only THEY do any work, only THEY are worthy of even scraps, it doesn't matter than younger generations do twice the work for half the price because that's all there is, THEY could afford to buy a house after delivering pizza therefore everyone else is just a whiner. And of course, only THEY are TRULY patriotic! The fact they deliberately destroy the economy of the country whose flag they wave in everyone else's faces is irrelevant. The economy they destroyed not magically fixing itself is the young millennials and zoomers fault.
His biggest blunder was constantly lying about things that are both legal issues and punishable by fines and/or jail time. He just doesn't know how to shut his pie hole and now he's in big trouble for it.@@DarthMcDoomington
@@ericm5315 That's what I said, well part of it. "And then reminding everyone they why they hate him whenever something gets their attention and gives him a potential chance to slip away quietly." He could have walked away while everyone else was distracted, but he just HAD to say "HEY EVERYONE! I'M STILL HERE AND YOU STILL HATE ME!" He also kept committing new crimes and getting himself in the news, said news organizations would gladly ignore his crimes, but he kept committing new ones and giving people even more reasons to hate him.
I wonder if she forgot to check the box for a jury trial or it was a conscious decision. Perhaps trumps thought is that if a jury found him to have committed fraud, it’s harder to argue they were biased compared to a single judge (he can easily assert that the judge was out to get him, corrupt, or just incompetent).
I'm wondering about something much grimmer: I wonder if she chose not to, knowing that if there were such a Jury, that every single one of those jury members' Loved Ones were going to be in mortal danger. If she chose not to, either to protect them... or to prevent T from getting himself in even bigger trouble when he got caught.
I'm going with incompetence rather than any kind of clever plan. The great thing about Trump is he pathologically cannot deal with being told no or not winning, so any reasonable and competent lawyers that have to tell him that in order to get him out of trouble were fired long ago. On top of that he doesn't have any loyalty to anybody, he straight up never pays anybody despite being an alleged billionaire, so competent lawyers who would be willing to put up with his crap don't want to work with him. So now he's left with a legal team that are not only incompetent toadies but so incompetent that they think he'll definitely pony up the money and stand in their corner when needed, which he never has. It's like the perfect echo chamber of the dumbest and most divorced from reality people on earth.
@marvelouslife1309 gaming laptops are usually Hugh spec and can used for more than games including graphically intense PowerPoints or video editing so it's not uncommon the see people use gaming laptops even if it's not for mainly gaming
I think it's just been working for him his whole bloated, overlong life, falling a$$-first upwards over and over, why would he stop now? All it really took was pissing off 70 percent of America nonstop for years.
That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it.
@glowyboi7175 It did though. Not in the Dominion case, in a past case. They insisted that Tucker Carlson was clearly not meant to be taken completely seriously and therefore his outlandish claims could not be punished. And they won that case. In fact the only reason they lost the Dominion case is because Tucker wasn’t the only Fox host spreading lies, instead they all were and because they can’t claims EVERYONE isn’t meant to be taken seriously the argument didn’t hold.
From what I've learned from Elon musk and trump. Rich people who claim to be self made men are excellent examples of the Dunning cruger effect. They will run themselves off a cliff if their isn't an entire economy of people paid to keep them from doing so and even then they might do it still... pulling everyone else in their miserable company down with them.
things trump has claimed to know more about than anybody: campaign finance, tv ratings, ISIS, social media, courts, lawsuits, politicians, the visa system, trade, the US government, renewable energy, taxes, debt, money, infrastructure, borders, construction, technology, drones, banking, wall street, the military, and the "horror of nuclear." they should rename the dunning kruger effect to the trump effect.
Seriously the lawyer forgetting to check the box for a jury trial is going to go down in history as one of the dumbest things in the history of lawyer-dom. I mean it has to be in like, the top 10 of the biggest examples of "for want of a nail" screwups in the history of the legal system, right?
this dos not make any sense, isn't that just going to lead to kangaroo court's? like for what purpose dos having the option of having no jury achieve exactly?
I really don't understand how it's legal for clients to get screwed over by their lawyer messing up like that. It seems completely unfair, like a less extreme version of your lawyer accidentally saying you plead guilty. Same shit with Alex Jones lawyer sending a shit ton of incriminating evidence to the prosecution by accident, I don't get how someone can just be screwed over by their lawyer that hard, I'd think the lawyer would be disbarred or the evidence not admissible.
@@lukasg4807 In Alex Jones's case, it's important to note that he'd sworn those documents (which he was legally required to hand over) didn't exist. Sure it might not be entirely 'fair' to get screwed over by your lawyer like that, but when you ask your lawyer to commit crimes, what should the remedy be?
@@simonteesdale9752 Didn't the prosecuting lawyer contact Alex Jones lawyer giving him the chance to take back the files so they wouldn't be admissible? I don't really understand the rules around evidence but I thought the prosecution having to inform the defense and give them a chance to respond meant it wasn't something Alex Jones had to turn in.
All the people scammed by Trump from the Trump University victims, vendors who were never paid for their work, etc. must be feeling at least a little bit of vindication.
I hope all those little guys can find their invoices & get them ready - hopefully no timing has made them impossible to collect ! THAT would be really a good thing if he was forced to pay what he has owed to so many small contractors over the years !
Unfortunately, as I just found by looking it up, only things within 3 years can be sued for collection. Each state has a statute of limitations for collecting this kind of stuff, and in NY it is 3. I really hope that some of them filed a contractor lean on the properties as that might still be there and would have to be paid I would guess at step 2 as the banks wouldn't want to miss out on anything.
And isn't it strange that the vile Trump-hating DA doesn't see anything wrong with Trump U business. Just stuff thar no bank has a problem with because all the banks vetted Trump's assets and got paid on time. No crime there. No upset bankers. No late payments. Umm ... where is the crime?
Jumping in here, don't mind me, but if these other criminals were publicly outed as such to their voters, I feel confident saying they would actually lose votes. Trump voters are impervious to his obvious issues. Hey have a good one, aight? Any enemy of hypocrisy is a friend of mine. I just don't think this is one of those cases.
What's really scary to me is that he's always been like this, and it only came out when he went into politics and pissed off powerful people. It really makes me wonder how many millionaires are the same way, but we don't know because they're not as public
I have this definite feeling that Trump's fraud is "business as usual" in the world that he and many other real estate guys inhabit. Trump is just one who got caught.
The lesson being: if you do crimes, you should not run for president, because a sizable percentage of the nation will collectively fund pointing the biggest spotlight at your life to discover every reason you shouldn't have the job.
Listening to lawyers is fascinating, you can see the way your training effects the way you speak, the little rhetorical flourishes and substructure underneath, i really like that
"Sophisticated counsel should have known better" is the kind of sentence that makes me feel embarrassed for that lawyer just by reading it. And they had to say it twice!
6:47 One thing everybody seems to be missing regarding his claim that "no one was harmed" is that in fact, yes, people were harmed. Either the bank's shareholders or whoever else benefits from the profits of said bank because he overinflated the values of his properties to get a better interest rate on the loans. The money he put in his pocket by getting a better interest rate was taken directly out of the pockets of the shareholders and/or investors in the bank.
@@KanyinYT that's like arguing the guy who broke into your house didn't really harm you because your alarm company should have warned you of his tresspass.
@@KanyinYT That sounds like your own admission, more than anything. People are fully capable of both knowing what they're talking about _and_ disagreeing with you.
Wait until he's back in the Oval Office. EDIT: for those incapable of telling, I'm not a Trump nut, I'm just a guy who knows we live in the dumbest timeline. Why would a Trump nut be watching Legal Eagle??
Except this is more the neglectful parent who failed to take the kid's toys away when they first started misbehaving 5 years ago and now he's pulling this shit in public and becoming a massive embarrassment so they take away the kid's toys, send them to bed without dinner and ground them for the rest of their lives. Trying to do all the punishments all at once. The "right" answer here would be for New York to prosecute such a high profile career criminal 40 or 50 years ago when he was just starting out and try to rehabilitate his business ethics before things got so out of control. Unfortunately they failed to do that so here we are - trying to do all the punishments all at once. On one hand its a little unfair to the kid - they were never taught any better. But on the other hand, continuing to let it slide just means they also won't be taught any better next time or the time after that.
No, its more like the bad kid finally hit that age where he's considered to be an adult and suddenly all the stuff he used to do is no longer being handled with counseling and community service. Suddenly there's actual accountability and the kid thinks its unfair. He's only being charged with the stuff he's actively involved in, though. No sign of the 70+ alleged SA's or charity scams being used to ratchet up the severity of the punishments or whatever. No "all the punishments all at once." Just no more free ride.
The metaphor would be correct if you would take away a toddlers toys permanently instead of giving them a timeout. That’s just child abuse and in this case weaponization of the DOJ
@@Epicname333 The Doj is supposed to be a weapon against corruption and criminality. That's its entire purpose for existing. And, despite both the metaphor and Trump's childish behavior, he is NOT a child. Even now, he's not being charged with 1% of what he could be. 20 stolen documents, rather than 20,000. Zero charges related to his time in office.
@@Epicname333 What are you talking about? Its not "permanent". I mean at Trump's age and given the sheer number and seriousness of his crimes, he won't likely survive the sentence, but that doesn't make his sentence "permanent". Also, its not "weaponization" of the DOJ to persecute crimes - that's their entire job. Your personal like or dislike of the accused is 100% irrelevant.
I love the fact that 90% of why trump gets in so much shit is not even because of the original crime but in his really poor attempts to cover them up 😂
@rgmartin2536 oh he 100% did the crime, he has straight up confessed to most of them but the sentence would be a lot lighter if he just went through the normal process instead of trying to 1 up the system and destroy evidence and interfere with things
and if he'd said post Jan 6th that due to unforeseen circumstances he had no desire to run again for political office, none of it would have happened to him either. Which is exactly why a large portion of the US thinks, rightfully so, that this is politically motivated. I'm glad you and your 30+ upvotes can so clearly elucidate the absurdity of the claim that it isn't.
Drumpf’s income now is contributions from his supporters, which he launders through his PAC. I’m expecting in the future a massive indictment of Drumpf for fraud and money laundering with regard to his PAC’s. The wins just keep coming for Drumpf.
@@michaelcicero2967ironically they tried giving him plenty of leeway to avoid seeming political. He still did the crimes so it’s technically not political, but I’m willing to bet it would’ve been swept under the rug if he didn’t keep pushing it
Something I might never understand is how my Christian conservative family supports Trump because he claims to be pro life. "he's a known liar and cheater" met with "yes but he says he's pro life"
In my experience, for people like that, it's less about being good Christians and more about pushing their dogma on the rest of us. Jimmy Carter was a good christian, and they turned on him as soon as they realized he actually practiced what he preached.
funnily enough, that's actually one of the only lies he ever told. Trump had actually overpaid his previous year by around a million dollars and used that to reduce the tax value for the next year as a credit.
taxes are taxes, if someone said they found a way to skirt taxes they are showing they are NOT smart. some tax person lied to them and duped them into fraudulently doing taxes.
Unbelievable how someone achieved “billionaire” status basically by inheriting a bunch of money, not paying contractors, and lying about the value of their assets. While doing way less work than the average working class individual. The entire concept of “self-made billionaires” is so glaringly empty all the way down to its core.
there is exactly one self-made billionaire in the world, and he got there by literally inventing the Windows operating system, an infinitely reproducible and universal software as a cornerstone of all economic activity in the 21st century. It was a literal once in history confluence of factors. everyone else climbs on the skeletons of antebellum generations
The funniest thing is that he would have more money than he has now if he'd just taken his inheritance and parked it in an S&P 500 Index account. His active involvement underperformed a completely passive stock market investment.
They claim to be movers and shakers, people who innovate and create value for society, but the truth is they are simply parasites extracting value from society and hoarding it for themselves.
It is truly shocking to hear "professional lawyers" use arguments that would get you laughed out of high school debate class like "if I hypothetically sold it to the richest men alive they might be willing to pay such an unreasonably high price, so I should be legally allowed to declare it's worth that much" I'm genuinely baffled that you can graduate law school with that level of incompetence
Imagine stealing 100 million dollars, using that million dollars to invest and make 15 million dollars in profit, then returning the original 100 million and acting like you should be able to keep the 15 million in profit. Like the original owner couldn't have made 15 million in profits too if they had access to their money. That's what Trump is trying to do here, in essence.
"No one was harmed here." is a terrible argument. If I loan someone a million dollars because they put up property as collateral saying it is 1 million, but in reality, that property is only work 250k, if you don't pay me back, I am out my money; but even if you do, I could have actually given that loan to someone who did actually have it. So, the argument "no one is harmed" is just wrong. Money isn't infinite, money given to you is money that can't be given to someone else.
I've spent so much of my adult life trying to avoid leaning into the natural human capacity for schadenfreude BUT if anyone has spent their whole life taking advantage of people, lying, being selfish, causing destruction and hurt and worse, it's Donald Trump and I'm allowing myself to quietly relish the karma that's FINALLY catching up to him.
Did he honestly think all those businesses he shafted over decades were just going to go quietly away and leave him alone? When you deliberately hurt so many people eventually they cooperate and bite back. Cohen is a perfect example
@@nigeldepledge3790 I mean, karma is both traditionally and colloquially just the concept of things you do having an effect/consequences. The principle of karma in Indian religions can relate to rebirths but that’s not a consensus or definition. However, I take your point 🙃
Don't be too hard on yourself. It's not like he'll end of in the poor house. People are willing to give him their last dime for a piece of his used toilet paper. He can just do a book deal for a book someone else writes, some speaking engagements, or some more NFts and he'll be rich again.
It is. You can create a fictonal company with a trillion shares and get someone to buy one for $1. Therefore you can legitimately claim the company is now worth $1 trillion. However, the auditors are going to come after you pretty quick...
Theranos. Plus it's more like "billionaire" , because I have never heard of other legit billionaires being this bad at paying *everyone* , and begging poor ppl to give him money. Keep in mind that show of his basically pulled him out of the poorhouse & he was claiming he was a filthy rich person then.
Trump has been doing this for so many years. The only thing I don’t understand is why this wasn’t done sooner. I thought he would never be touched. Other governmental figures need to be prosecuted the same.
maybe because "tax value" and "market value" aren't even close to the same thing and when asked, the supposed "victims" say that Trump not only followed the law but that he actually paid back his loans?
@@nathanielbass771 right .... and alleging that Mar-a-Lago was worth 10x the tax value because of unrestricted development potential when he himself donated that development potential in order to get a tax break ... that was so totally accidental /s
If I had the money, I would buy the Trump brand and the Port A Potty company. Then I would start distributing Port A Trump units at festivals, construction sites, etc. for everyone to shit in.
Okay... but can we do this with all other highly affluent people. I'm thrilled that we can hold people accountable in this regard... but disheartened that much of this is happening after his transgressions are so public that they can't be ignored. Why couldn't this have been caught BEFORE presidency.
From what I understand, during the Michael Cohen hearings, AOC asked him a bunch of questions about Trump committing business fraud and the answers he gave allowed investors to justify deeper inquiries, leading to this.
It cracks me up that chump isn't even attempting to deny any of his numerous crimes; he is insistent that if he weren't currently in political running, none of these cases would be pursued. Ok, AND? What does it matter why any legal department is looking into any of these crimes? If a crime was committed, justice must be served. Is he trying to say he would have gotten away with it if he had just laid low? Maybe, maybe not; but he is a career criminal by his own admission.
Well, in this case, he's not denying the conduct -- he's simply denying that that conduct was unlawful. To be fair, that is a relatively common situation. For example, any time somebody denies murder or assault on the grounds of self defence, they're admitting the conduct (the killing or injury) but denying that it was unlawful.
@@beeble2003 Which makes sense when talking about self defence, but literally none of Trumps "arguments" (read half-formed thoughts) held any legal water, and half made no sense what so ever. People talk about Biden being senile (clearly not fit for presidency either), but Trump can barely form a coherent sentence. Neither of those old geysers should be president of one of the most powerful military powers in the world, although I'd rather have Biden. At least he's a lot less dangerous, and less unpredictable.
@@MartinFinnerup I never said he was making _good_ arguments. I'm just pointing out that "Isn't even trying to deny it" is a completely normal situation and doesn't automatically imply that somebody feels they're above the law.
@@beeble2003 no, he makes no more bones about whether his conduct was unlawful. He and his lawyers have even given up that tack with the documents case. All they have left is table thumping and whining of witch-hunts. His press statements now all focus (as much as anything he says can be focused) on the idea that if he weren't a political candidate, these crimes would be allowed to rest. He might even truly believe that everyone is as corrupt and unlawful as he is, and that only those who ruffle feathers get legal pursuit.
It’s so funny how NONE OF THIS HAD TO HAPPEN. He could have grifted for the next few decades if he simply hadn’t run for office Edit: Since I have to clarify for those lacking comprehension skills, if he hadn’t run in 2016 he would have STAYED under the radar as he has been for the last few DECADES. Rule number one of crime is don’t bring unnecessary attention to yourself
@socraytes it started with him using campaign funds to pay hush money to a porn star. That is where the truth about his fraud came out. So had he not run he could have gotten away with it.
Absolutely! If you buy a candy bar for a dollar, you cannot set a sale price above a dollar, or it is fraud? The executives of evey bsiness in the country MUST be arrested NOW!
The only reason it ever happened is because Trump managed to piss off enough seriously powerful people that he finally maneuvered himself into a position where his money couldn't save him.
The judge violated multiple laws in the case including impersonating an expert when he disregarded expert testimony and when he appointed himself as representative of a party without permission. The case has already been appealed and won at both state and federal level...
There's a saying on the internet: "If corporations are people, they should be able to receive the death penalty" I never expected in a million years that would become true!
Brand loyalty is an awful disease, and I'm sure that at least 85% from both sides suffer tragically from it. The even more tragic part is... they don't believe they suffer from it.
I would like to think the cult is smaller than it was when he won the 2016 election. Still absurdly large, though, like people thinking a .175 hitter who also can't field should be in the Hall of Fame, and are willing to riot in Cooperstown if asked.
Don't hold your breath. The AG and the judge screwed up. The AG failed to produce any witness that claims he/she relied on Trump's magic numbers, so the only evidence is speculation, which is inadmissible and grounds for appelate reversal.
@@alexanderSydneyOzoh how wrong you are Imagine if a left wing group bought his name, you think i wouldnt pay an enourmous premium for trump brand abortion pills? Trump brand estrogen? Trump brand dominatrix gear? Imagine the brand trolling you could do Have a trump brand version of every single thing the right hates and fears, id pay so much for things like that
Legal Eagle Pro Tip #1: "When the judge compares your argument to the film Groundhog Day and accuses you of sophistry, you're about to get a legal beatdown." Words to live by. Thanks - I needed the chuckle.
He really doesn't. He inherited all of his money and assets from his dad and he's been squandering them for decades. The man's produced more flops than a fish on land.
I'm reminded of Eddie Murphy's line in the classic 1980s movie Trading Places: "It occurs to me that the best way to hurt rich people is by turning them into poor people."
"Obviously, this court cannot consider an 'expert affidavit' that is based on unexplained and unsubstantiated 'dream[s]'" - well, I suppose this is the most professional and blatant way of saying "you're full of sh*t".
have to say it. Trump really looks shaken in those news clips, almost like some one slapped him in the face. this ruling must really hit him where it hurts.
Because it's at the point where he's committed so many blatantly obvious crimes that he can't just money his way out of it like all the other politicians and wealthy do
It's scary that even though some people have finally realized who Trump is and has always been, there are still many out there who will see all of this and still not accept that Trump has always been a conman looking out for only his own interests.
@@faytbouleouve9811the point you are missing is that describes every single politician. They all are conmen with an agenda looking out for their interests. The reason trump has as much support as he does is because regardless of the controversial things hes said he still seems to push for america first in a day in age where we really need that. We dont need jobs being pushed over seas or to be paying a huge price for energy when we could be energy sufficient. The current administration seems to cater to other countries (ukraine) more than trying to help with ours.
@@faytbouleouve9811 News for you, every leader of the US for the past several decades has been a complete sociopath. The last non-sociopathic president was probably JFK and the sociopaths murdered him in cold blood.
Yep. Right now they are over on Fox/etc shouting about activist judges and constitutional rights. I clicked on a Fox site just to see the response and it was stunning. There is literally nothing that he can do that will turn them against him.
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I dont think it was a mistake that they didn't ask for a jury trial. He knows he can't beat the case legitimately. Legitimacy is not his game. His only hope is to get a corrupt judge that can be bribed. It's much easier to bribe or manipulate a single judge than an entire jury.
@Legaleagle You should do a real lawyer reacts for the Bluey episode “family meeting”!!! It packs an impressive amount of trial 101 into 8 minutes. Witness tampering, cross examination, etc, and it’s cute and wholesome. Also because you seem like you could use a break from irl politics 😂
I think you need to look at a dictionary and revisit the Oath of Office. Words are losing their meaning with you.
I don't think valuing Maralago at $750 million was overvaluing. $75 million for the property and $675 million for the national secrets stored in the ballroom and bathroom.
Excellent point !!
And the Saudis gave soulless Jared $2 BILLION ... for what, I wonder...
puts a different spin on his claim of "i could've sold it to Saudi Arabia for any price" yeah i bet he could when it had nuclear missile designs as reading material in the master bathroom.
It's been such a wonderful turn of events seeing progressive liberals interested in national security and foreign military action, while conservatives clamor for spending money and resources on Americans instead. It's almost like playing musical chairs and they each sat down in each other's seats.
@@michaelcicero2967when was that , in details where and what have Republicans ever spent money on any group outside of billionaires & millionaires.
You know it's bad when the lawyers stop saying allegedly
Sure. Though it's just the usual situation that there's no need for "allegedly" when the person has been found guilty (criminal trial) or liable (civil).
@@beeble2003that’s…that’s the point💀
@@Wakawakawakawakawakawakawaka7 If the intended point was "You know it's bad when you've been found guily/liable", then that point is so obvious that it's barely worth making.
@@beeble2003 obvious or not, it's a good comment
@@beeble2003 I think it's more so that lawyers aren't allowed to specul8 in court. No matter how 'certain' the case or evidence is, lawyers are still supposed to, (as almost a matter of formality/professionalism,) say 'allegedly' to leave room for mistakes. 8ut when even the lawyers feel the case is so clear cut there's no need for the formality of protective vagueness, you KNOW you're screwed.
The irony is that he probably would've gotten away with all this if he had never gotten into politics. America doesn't seem to care about the illegal shennanigans of the very rich, but Trump brought attention to himself in the worst possible way and insists on keep doing so.
Imagine if people actually liked him as president. He’d still probably get away with it
@@Scroogsirrelevant at this point, he's never been likeable either ...this is him, this was always him
like hunter biden, except hunter didn't even run for office.
He'll probably get away with it anyway, since the AG presented no witnesses who testified that they relied on Trump's representations. Judge Engoron allowed the AG to simply speculate and speculation is inadmissible evidence, so I would not be surprised if the judgment is reversed on appeal.
@@scottmatheson3346 Well, it wasn't so much Hunter himself that brought the attention so much as a conga line of GOP members that have claims on claims, but no concrete evidence. The most the guy was hit with was two late instances of taxes (the thing that politicians hate, and have tried to kill the IRS over), and mishandling a gun (which the GOP doesn't care about, to the surprise of no one, since they're bought out by the NRA).
It's beyond ironic that a shady businessman who's being busted for fraud and misquoting property values would be screwed by the fact that his own lawyer was cutting corners
His ego can only afford the 'yes men' lawyers 😂
Heh he "forgot" to check the box.
@@nathanfuelling2577oh my god can you imagine if that lawyer took the job as a horse of Troy. He went in to bring Trump down. That's so rich.
No sane person believes that mar a lago is worth a paltry 20 million. You'd have to be a lunatic, or a dem, to believe it.
It’s called Karma
I'm kind of really pissed how low down workers are on that hierarchy of debt repayment. I think unpaid labor should be the first priority over other creditors.
I strongly agree
Trickle down economics: the reasoning is that if other creditors don't get their money they won't be able to exploit theur own minions, making even more people not have money.
That's not how it actuslly works ofc, but that's how the law sees it
Unless it changed recently 'payroll' always comes first. Not paying payroll is a criminal offense, and it is the last thing done just before declaring bankruptcy.
Costs of administering the bankruptcy, claims by secured creditors, and debts for alimony & child support have priority in bankruptcy. Wages, salaries, unpaid leave and commissions (up to $10,000, if accrued within 6 months of cessation of business) have priority over other unsecured creditors.
The 4th tier on his chart cover's Trump's employees. Contractors and subcontractors in the 2d tier are secured creditors, and they pay their own employees.
"Trump's lawyer Alina Habba forgot to check the box to request a Jury Trial. She really earned that 'F' tier ranking." - no medical procedure exists to treat a burn like that.
The Lord works in mysterious ways!🙂
So my take on this is that this would have been such an egregiously incompetent mistake that, were it an actual mistake, Trump would fire her and call for her disbarment. The fact that he hasn't done so implies that this was the plan. He needed something to whine about when he loses. His next move is to complain about how he was cheated and how the judge who ruled against him is totally corrupt. It's easier to do that than argue against a jury verdict.
F tier level for Habba is a shade too generous, -X would be closer.
Maybe people running too far into the grey area, or well beyond it into the black, have a more restricted choice of lawyers and accountants willing to represent them, and can't always avail themselves of the best advisers. It's probably more of a "transactional" thing at that end of the spectrum, like transactional love.
@@cuttwice3905In my part of the world we use U--ungraded. So bad it didn't even deserve to go on the scale
Any body else just wishing all these corrupt banks and shady corporations would get hit this hard for their misdeeds? Tired of seeing rampant fraud and corruption punished with a slap on the wrist fine.
And all those in the gov that have overstepped also. He had/has friends and even those he acted as if weren't friends to ( hillary and Bill). The laptop and it's owners father etc (those in both parties) you know drane the swamp that is Washington DC. Would be nice 🥰
The banks that loaned Trump money based on the false property values are going to take a hit. He doesn't have enough money to repay the loans and the properties aren't worth enough to cover the loans if they're sold.
Remember the Panama papers? See anything done about it?
@@subliminalphishwell maybe trump shouldn't have been lying and screwing people over for decades to begin with, maybe Clinton's would be held accountable. Now it just seems like a child getting caught and trump(and his followers) are going "b-b-but they did it too!" And you didn't do anything about any of it before hand? Sus
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You're actually unhinged lmao.
"our attempt at fraud wasn't successful so we shouldn't be punished. You wouldn't jail someone for attempted bank robbery!" This is literally sideshow Bob logic.
Right?! Attempted robbery is a real punishable crime!
Nope. There was no attempt at fraud. Proven.
@@cameronwalker294 show us the proof then, cameron.
The judge in the case disagrees, and his opinion matters more than yours.
Except sideshow Bob is twenty times more competent than chimp
I sincerely hope that, if the right to use and profit from Trump's name and image comes up for auction, that it should get purchased by The Onion.
A beautiful idea, but the reality would be pretty nasty-The Onion is part of the entity formerly known as The Gizmodo Group, whose CEO is noted Herb Jim Spanfeller.
Oh God yes please
LOL that idea should be crowdfunded so it can happen if the name and brand does come up for sale
I would contribute my own money for The Onion to win that auction.
@@chaosflash912 "Shut up and take my money now!!!!" lol
Imagine having your previously lost court cases used as precedent against you in court
and it was your defense team the one to bring them to the table.
Can't imagine anyone who could imagine that tbh
It happens a lot actually
Its only precedent if it was affirmed by an appellate court. A trial court judgement is not precedent.
Few years back one of our corporate clients tried to steal our patents in court of law. In the meantime they tried to make us look as unreliable bussiness partner by deliberately damaging delivered goods and returning them as non compliant with order and also noncompliant to IEC standards. They were caught red handed creating false evidence. Court have dismissed all of their claims and called them legally untrustworthy. One week later client company value was so low, that it was legally transferred to our ownership as part of compensation and it was not even enough to cover all losses they created, as their market value plumetted 100-fold. Don't do stupid things in front of court of law.
It seems to me that the defense of "I am not guilty because people had the choice whether or not to believe me, so it's not my fault" is a common one Trump and his lawyers use.
It's similar to Fox News' _"It's not a lie because we didn't expect anybody to take us seriously"_ line of thought
@@QuantumHistorianto be fair, “it’s not a lie because no one would believe us” is a genuine defense. It’s just a bad defense when you call your program news and aren’t obviously satire. The Onion lies all the time and that’s fine. Jon Oliver mixes lies and truths but tries to make the difference clear. Fox just said whatever they wanted and mixed it all together. And official financial statements are a bad place for the lies.
And most abusers/cult leaders/politicians
"if they let me victimize them, it's their fault not mine"
Its been the defense of conmen for ages.
Court: "Nice evaluation, Mr. Trump. How about you back it up with a source?"
Trump: "The source is that I made it the f*ck up!"
Now this needs to continue for other billionaires. You cannot convince me Trump is the only billionaire committing fraud like this
@@A_R_B_Gif that kind of evidence exists, why not?
Well apparently not since there has NEVER been a case like this . 🤔
@@easternsuneasternsun171usually the ultra rich don’t like to have their wealth examined, and trump basically had a magnifying glass on him for four years
@@A_R_B_G Show me how you plan to make an honest billion without exploiting the energy of those around you.
@@disabledchatzen5276 Its not about Trump Exploiting the common man that got him into this. Unfortunately. Laws tend to kind of favor people that do that to an extent. It was the Falsify of amounts on financial statements. Basically he was Lying to OTHER rich and powerful people. Big No no. And its also the fact that he has been doing it for a LONG time. I am sure the Multiple bankruptcies he has declared with said information will come into play should any of them be in the scoop of the time frame.
BUT yeah. Not disagreeing with the need for putting Billionaires under a microscope to make sure its all up and up. But just saying what he is in trouble for here has NOTHING to do with exploiting vulnerable people. (Which yes he has done that) but more with him screwing over OTHER rich and powerful people and companies and Lying to them to get an edge.
They really went and attempted "trust me, bro" as a legal argument.
Watch for the next appeal when they invoke the "no tagbacks" rule of fraudulent accounting practices, and the "no u" defense for contempt of court.
Technically the legal argument seemed more like "well you shouldn't have trusted me, that's a skill issue."
The old Sideshow Bob "no harm, no foul" argument.
Or "trust me and not anyone else, bro, cannot emphasize how little you should trust ANYONE who contradicts me bro"
It's getting funnier when the lawyers are not even trying to deny anything that the prosecutors say Trump did. They are just throwing words like "total immunity from prosecution" like if that helps their case.
Seem like a "Hail Mary" move.
He's a Soverign Citizen!
I think this is the logical conclusion of trumpisms. You have this kabal of people that through ignorance or arrogance think they can simply ignore a problem or tell to go away and it will. Then inevitably you encounter a problem immune to your bs and you can’t do anything but dig yourself deeper.
Evoking the longstanding legal right of "Nuh uh!"
Papers are being drawn up by Trump's lawyers now to institute the "My client is rubber and opposing council glue" defense.
@@trouty606😂😂😂
Glad to see someone pointing out that the CYA clause in the statements saying that "Management is responsible for the financial statements" is to protect us, the accountants, and not the business owners who provide us with fraudulent information. In fact, after Enron and Worldcom, publicly traded companies cannot have the firm that prepares thier books also audit those books. Of course, avoiding audits is why Trump never took his company public, that and he can't risk having a board that could remove him, because they would.
I knew from news articles that things weren't looking good for Trump in regards to this, but hearing it all spelled out like that really captures just how staggeringly bad this can be.
Having to sell off the Trump trademarks is the last straw for badness. Real estate might be good and all, but the one thing that he would never choose to sell is his name, his silhouette, etc.
Legal Eagle has zero credibility because he only goes after Republicans.
He completely ignores all the issues concerning Democrats. Notice I didn't say accusations or lying. I don't claim to know with this comment. Im all ears when it comes to what Legal Eagle has to say about all the issues involving Democrats.
When anyone only goes after one side, then they can't be impartial. This is common sense.
@@phillyphakename1255to be fair his silhouette is absolutely massive so it would be pretty difficult to get rid of it
Rush Limbaugh’s 2.7 acres property containing 3 homes was sold for $155 million. Do you believe that a 17 acres resort that makes yearly $20+ million only worth half of that?
The case has already been appealed and won.. .the judge broke multiple laws in this case including impersonating an expert within a courtroom and appointing himself as representative of a party without permission. Even the supposed "victims" of this crime said that Trump followed the law and their loans had been paid back in full.
I'm more upset that this is only coming to light now, even though there were numerous stories coming to light during his first presidential bid literally telling us ALL of this and how he lied his way into the Forbes list which helped cement his status as a business mogul.
Yeah im glad at least one mega rich person is being held to similar standards as us peons sucks that the rest of them wont be held accountable though
The Forbes thing I'm kinda good with. Some guy calls you up and asks how much you are worth because they are doing a RUclips, er, magazine listicle? You fudge the numbers a bit. Meh. Guys exaggerate their shaft size, they've been doing it for millenia.
But fudging your accounting books? Using that to get loans and do real business? That's not okay.
The judge involved in this case violated multiple laws including impersonating an expert when he ignored expert testimony within the court room AND appointing himself as representative of a party without permission. The case has already been appealed and won at both the state and federal level... even the supposed "victims" of this stated that not only did Trump follow the law, but that Trump had repaid the loans in full.
@@phillyphakename1255 that's exactly what the Forbes list was. Being on that list have him access he wouldn't have had other's. So him lying to get into that list is more than "exaggerating shaft size". That's a poor argument. Do better.
@@RndmBad A bank isn't going to give a loan because someone was on a RUclips video about rich people, or at least they shouldn't.
And I think they didn't. This court case proves it. They looked at actual accounting documents, not a glorified BuzzFeed article.
So again, you lie to some guy? Fine. I mean, I might think less of you because you are claiming something that you are not, but it's pretty low stakes. Systematic financial fraud however, is not low stakes.
As it turns out the guy had a GREAT reason for not disclosing his taxes when he was running for president.
kinda funny, eh? His own auditors weren't auditing him.
I thought the same thing. That reason just can't have been that he was being audited. Nobody seems to have audited that guy in decades.
Maybe it should be a rule about anyone who runs for president must disclose their taxes or else automatically be disqualified!
Politicians has to be hold to a higher bar, so maybe this would be a rule for both senators and governors?
Like we didn’t already strongly suspect as much.
It's so goddamn disgusting, I fret about whether I should declare a room of my flat as work space, though it might not fully apply, and he doesn't just do blatantly illegal stuff to his taxes, he also overvalues everything to several hundred percent!@@unvergebeneid
I just love the amount of professional grade shade that's been thrown by that report
@robertmancuso4383
He literally has made a video about Hunter's plea deal...
The best line in any of Eagle’s videos ever: “No, I guess it isn’t ‘alleged’ anymore.”
I second that!
2:03 For a LAWYER to lose the "allegedly" is a MASSIVE power move lmao
You know you're boned when lawyers stop using "allegedly" about your crimes in public statements lol
And this is the person who wants to be the speaker of the house.
@@brodriguez11000President
@@SkywarpG1X
He also wants to be speaker of the house.
Trump going political was the worst mistake of his life. You put a target like that on your back, things you and others normally get away with suddenly stop working.
It bothers me how he got away with it for so long… how many others are there like him? Probably the vast majority of the rich… and they get away with at the cost of everyone else.
@@Shadow-rt3fx How did he get away with doing something he didn't do? SMH!
@@videowatchaccount7551
He did do it though. It's been proven.
@@videowatchaccount7551 probably the same way you were conceived. By paying someone.
That's nonsense. Politicians get away with far more than non-politicians. And even when they are completely busted they get away with a slap on the wrist compared to non politicians. His problem wasn't going political, it was having the "wrong" politics.
And if that doesn't make not just bells go off, but your entire alarm system. I can't help you.
My dad worked for a Japanese corporate bank back in the 80s and 90s. Trump came to them back then asking for a loan. The Japanese bankers looked at the documents he provided, brought them to their team, and declined. Dad said that Trump was upset and tried to get them to loan him the money, saying something about he was good for the money and how he was successful. They still didn't loan to him because they said that their models showed that his financials were overinflated. So, I'm not sure why this is considered new info. It seems like it should've been well-known. I mean, it was definitely known at Dad's workplace.
Edit: Just to clarify, Dad's branch of the Japanese bank was located in NYC.
And that's when he had his most recent bankruptcies, so your dad's company avoided quite the loss there, and that's also why Trump shouldn't be considered to have never harmed anyone. He's stiffed lots of contractors to maintain this illusion and hurt previous lenders even if they're not the current ones.
Because the banks he was working with were dirty as well. They used trump to launder Russian money. He's as dirty as they get. Russia owns him. And Putin wants his money.😂 Careful Donnie don't walk past any high windows!!!!!
It prob didn't make the news either, being over in Japan. And Trump stiffing workers and contractors, Polish immigrants and other little guys, wasn't salty enough for the regular media to cover and stay on top of.
“So, I’m not sure why this is considered new info.” It isn’t, a lot of people knew that Trump was a con artist, specially people from NYC knew. But the idiots that will let him sh*t on their moms didn’t listen so this is where we are now.
Well, Trump himself is overinflated due way to many cheeseburgers. Seems to be a common theme for this man!
I’ve read/watched many news articles about the exaggeration of asset values in these cases, but I never saw those numbers until now. Not only did you show those numbers and how high they were inflated, you _cited_ your sources, among other things. Cold. Hard. Facts. Thank you!
WOW... I never thought it would happen. Trump has entered the "Find Out" phase of his 80-year "F*** Around" tour. This makes me extremely happy.
There is a thing called karma.
She has a long memory.
Be careful what you wish for.
Dude got to live big for decades on the back of and at the cost of innocent people.
He hasn't got enough years left in him to make him properly pay for that.
In the end, he got to live however he wanted.
It is so disgusting
@@horrorhotel46290_"He hasn't got enough years left in him to make him properly pay for that."_
We don't know what's going to happen after we die. He might pay after he dies. The idea that the brain creates the mind's never been proven.
His family will live with the find out part for generations
Wish it happen much sooner but it's good all the same
People who aren't rich end up in jail in a heartbeat. The rich and powerful get fines and a slap in the hand.
If the price is a fine then it's fine for a price
Same here in Germany with our kanzler. He probably did some shady business with a bank and their tax fraud, but who cares? He said " I don't remember" and that's it. If a normal human would do something, he would be chased over the country, put in handcuffs in in jail for 1000 years.
Not even a slap on the wrist, he was somehow allowed to not be cuffed. Imagine a poor person in the same scenario, officers would be kneeling on their neck.
@@lordofthe6string Nah the poor person's punishment would have be proportional to the charges. The accused would have "charged three officers, disabled their body cams, stole their guns, and shot themself in the back twenty seven times".
Unfortunately he's a former president 😔 He will only be on house arrest if that. Poor people go to jail for stealing bread while he's probably going to get away with 2.2 billion dollars in real estate fraud. The MAGAs talk about "two criminal justice systems".... I'm not sure if that's so horrible because it's so Orwellen or the terrible irony. 🤦🏼they have no idea....
Holy shit, it's been so long and Trump has done so much other crap that I COMPLETELY forgot about the real-estate fraud.
Imagine having a criminal who's done so much crime you've legit forgotten about their previous accusations that they're only NOW going to trial for
That's the thing, he's been at this con so long he genuinely doesn't know the difference between being a lying, cheating con-man and being a legitimate businessman. He thinks that legitimate business involves lying, cheating, conning, stealing, intimidating, and making shit up to deflect when you're called out on it.
I've said for years that fraud would be what would ultimately nail Trump since, unlike some other things he does, there's objective paper trails with hard evidence he's lied to banks and the government on his financial forms. I even remember way back when Michael Cohen was testifying before Congress that AOC specifically stood out in that hearing because she explicitly took time to ask Cohen detailed questions regarding Trump inflating his property values on financial forms. And I remember thinking to myself that the rest of that hearing was mainly showboating and soundbites, but AOC actually managed to pull out information that state and federal prosecutors could hypothetically use to ultimately charge Trump with fraud. And sure enough, here we are!
There's also that video phone MLM scheme trial that's going through the motions now... 🙂
Its kind of like Capone getting locked away for Income Tax Evasion
Trump had a novel defense strategy: commit so many crimes the prosecution wouldn't know where to start. They found a place to start
I wouldn’t be surprised if they “forgot to check the box” on purpose. When found guilty trump can cry and yell that a “crooked judge” did it to him. Because you know…everyone loves him and a jury would never find him guilty…
Nah, he'd just scream that he couldn't get a fair jury in NYC.
Yep. That’s my theory too,
He wants a target to attack. And to get his stochastic terrorists to attack.
@@grmpEqweer I thought this too, but that would actually work in his favor. Double jeopardy applies to this. So if he is convicted and then proves that it was an unfair trial (a mistrial) then everything has to be repealed and he can't be sued for it again. He would in fact get off, scott free, but they didn't go that route. They didn't go the route that would quite literally get him off rather easily because it would not be hard today to prove there was bias against him in a jury. Yet they didn't do that, they didn't go the easy way, which means the lawyer very likely did it on purpose.
@@umbraviventemif its because of a mistrial, double jeopardy doesn't always stick
The fraud case brought by the NY Attorney General is a civil action, not criminal. Double jeopardy principles don’t apply as a result.
It makes me glad that the judge is doing his utmost to prevent Trump from getting out of this. He needs to be punished just like anyone else would be.
So you are okay with a lying and corrupt judge? The lender has them independently assessed, it's not Trump making arbitrary numbers. His lenders said that they were not overvalued but the judge is an idiot or he's corrupt. Or could be both. Developers are pissed off too because if he says that Mar-A-Lago is only worth 18 million then that devalues everything around it also. So yeah he's an idiot.
@@DarkMatterBurritoof course, it's on his side.
@xAquinasx so you are ok with a lying and corrupt politician?
@@DarkMatterBurrito If lying and corrupt meant properly holding those who commit crimes, then yes. But by definition, no republican judge lies or is corrupt if thats what it means.
@@CreativeName574no, I'm not. But there is such a thing as actual justice and not political revenge which you seem to be okay with no matter if what the judge is saying is objectively false.
It’s so stunning to me that there are still people on this planet who are surprised by the fact that Trump is a pathological liar.
Just ask them to do their research on him AND NOT ANYONE ELSE. They love to try to bring other people in saying they did it. Yeah other people did this stuff but he in the hot seat and this is a good start.
What's more stunning is the number of people who don't see him as a liar at all.
@@ericstoverink6579 Yeah. We're legitimately living in the plot of Idiocracy. It's terrifying.
@ericstoverink6579 Hey man don't let the media split us up. The whole red vs blue, right vs left just distracts from the fact that its those with power vs those without. There are equally corrupt people, at every level of political office, on both sides of the spectrum.
Yep and Obama was a holy black god.
My uncle went to jail once for bouncing a $100 check.
It took a couple of months for the court system to react.
Oh justice is swift for the poor. 😊
@@Sochi314being poor is truly the biggest crime a person can commit 😔
When a lawyer casts aside the word "allegedly" and just says "it's been proven", you not only know it's indisputable fact, but you also know that person/business has no case to sue. Everyone, Everywhere, clings to the protections the term "allegedly" provides. Also Trump saying "do not believe anything" reminds me of a beautiful quote "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
I've been thinking of that quote since he first got elected.
Orwell?
@@maryhales4595yeah he invoked it very early on when telling his followers to disregard all news reporting.. which, by and large, they have done.
@@mantistoboggan5171 Yep! 1984.
It should he rewritten to say
"The Republican Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
One of my friends works at Colliers International as part of a real estate appraisal team. Our last real drinking binge was when they got it wrong by € 2 million on a € 45 million property. They had to report to their client's board of directors and as he put it: By the time they were done shouting, all his hair was pointed backwards.
The concept that someone acting in good faith or with correct information could get a valuation wrong by a factor of 10, is unheard of.
In the case of mar-a-lago, it was even 2700%. It's like Trump himself. Unhinged.
This was the difference between "tax value" and "market value", which are two very different things. Tax value is based on constants whereas market value fluctuates. I use a pool as an example. The pool itself is the tax value. The amount of water included (if any), cleaning services, the condition of the pool, how many people visit, etc, are the market value.
@@nathanielbass771knowing the difference between tax assessment value and appraisal value does not get the “OrAnGe MaN bAd” headlines though.
@@nathanielbass771 I guess that makes everybody a billionaire then.
Tax values and market values may indeed be prepared on different bases and therefore give different $ values. Neither of those bases permits the use of incorrect facts though.
You would think a smart person who does shifty business deals would not bring attention to himself by running for president of the United States. He basically signed away his life because of his own ego. He deserves to lose it all and a jail cell.
Your mistake was ever assuming him to have any sort of intelligence.
Crooks k n o w other Crooks sadly it's called capitalism I've often wondered why would anyone want to be president you catch hell from the left you catch hell from the right and your life becomes an open book personally I think Trump was shocked that he won the presidency yes he drew all the attention to himself he used the presidency to enrich himself now the corrupt and Shady business deals are coming to light most certainly appears the long arm of the law has caught up with the shyster
And just think, it all started because of his penchant for cheating on his taxes.
To be fair, the guy has been getting away with everything scotfree for literally his entire life. He's what, in his 70s now? Its a hollow victory to imprison him most likely at the end of his life.
And all of his supporters need to follow suit. We have the records of everyone who voted for him. They are the real .issue. facing America, and even if Trump goes to prison, his supporters will still .exist.
That needs to be rectified.
Holy crap I know EXACTLY what Trump was thinking with the Mar-a-lago estate. He was thinking HE personally couldn't develop the property but someone else could. I guarantee that was a loophole he thought he found in those papers he signed.
Oh, no doubt.
He legit actually tried this argument in his defence, per the judgement
@@AlexanderKrell Did he really? I don't know if I should be proud or sad that nailed it.
@@AlexanderKrell "There's nothing wrong with misleading potential investors!"
I once said I wouldn’t agree with corporate personhood until a company is executed in the state of Texas… I will be watching this closely
I have a fridge magnet from over a decade ago with that same phrase on it. I find your assertion dubious.
The original quote, which became a somewhat famous bumper sticker is"
"I’ll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one." - Robert Reich
@dionh70 believe it or not, you can say something famous, and after that, you've said it. Hear me out I know it's confusing.
So you see, when a phrase is famous. It's because a lot of people know it, and guess what? That usually means people say it.
@@blindleader42*savage*, I love it
@@heszedjim9699 It seems the confusion is on your end. The OP on this thread structured his comment in such a way to imply that he was the original source of the phrase, an implication that others noticed as well, leading them to also comment in opposition to his implication of originality. I hope this helps clear up your confusion.
I love that Trump lied about the value of property on his taxes, then as president, removed the ability for me to deduct the cost of my measly 100 sq ft home office, which I work out of full time.
Have you tried claiming that your home office is 1000 square feet?
@@SynchroScore thank you, I needed that laugh!!! HaHaHAhahaaaaaaaa
Something that small you are probably better off with a standard deduction anyway.
@@MatthewQuinton We used to have the Standard Deduction as well as itemized deduction for small amounts, like work clothes or a small office space. Trump came in an changed it to one or the other. Effectively taxing working people MORE as most people don't itemize things like yachts but things like work tools that don't add up to more than the Standard Deduction.
I was pissed when I did my taxes the first year Trump's tax laws went into effect and I couldn't take deductions that I had for years, but a person itemizing 30,000 ft condos wouldn't care about a measly 10,000 standard deduction being taken away.
@@citronm1405 I don't remember ever being able to take a standard deduction and being able to itemize on the same return. Am I wrong about that? It doesn't make a lot of sense that you would be able to take both because you would effectively be getting a tax break on the same purchase twice.
Trump: "Your honour, you can't expect me to value my assets accurately, my hands are to tiny to count on."
Can he actually count though?
6:54 Trump saying there is no crime because no one was harmed is like a drunk driver saying that he shouldn't get a DUI because he didn't hit anybody
Except it's worse than that. Saying that nobody was harmed is simply false. The banks _were_ harmed. If Trump had not inflated the value of his properties, he would have received less favourable loan terms. In other words, the banks would have made more profit from him if he'd been honest. Therefore, lying cost the banks money.
@@beeble2003didn't he cause a bank to go under?
Plus look at all the small businesses that went under because he didn't pay them for their services
@@beeble2003like saying you only hit one person
@Souls4Roca officer, I ran that kid over when I was drunk, but he didn't die, so... not guilty?
6:44 - I love how the judge italicized "in this very case" he was so mad
Fun Fact: Trump has long held that a large portion of his net worth is not real estate, cash, or stock, but the value of the "Trump" brand. This ruling severely damages that brand.
I wouldn't buy that for a dollar.
I think the 4 years in office where the most damaging thing to that brand
He also said over and over that he 'did not include the brand value' in his financial statements, when he actually did. He vastly overvalued everything, including his now worthless brand. Many branded Trump properties have sued to remove the branding, because it's cancer now.
Much like the person himself, I'm not paying 😅
All politics aside, everything aside- I believe his brand should be worth negative? For example where I am we hate rogers as an internet service provider, they can offer one hell of a promotional offer and people will still pick anyone else over them from their sheer aweful customer service and lousy reputation. Trump has been known for not paying his employees some of the time, so its always high risk to do any amount of business with the guy. If that is part of his brand, then it should be worth negative? A brand should be recognizable, trustworthy, consistent, trump is only recognizable even from space, but not trustworthy nor consistent except in his inconsistency. So his brand- should reduce the value of the products he sells- not increase it? he has no good will backing him.
Oh man. If this had happened when I was taking business law, we wouldn't have talked about anything else for weeks.
Trump’s argument is like saying that speeding at 80mph in a 25mph residential area is legal, because somehow nobody was killed. And anyway, I went to a highway later where the speed limit was 80mph.
And saying it was worth it because I'm sure the next street will be 95 mph anyways
Or simply replacing the speed limit signs with ones of your own making, and stating "risk of speed is subjective and depends on the skill of the driver. I could go to any race track and find skilled drivers who could safely navigate going 100 in a 25 zone, thus the zone should accommodate drivers of such skill at all times, even if it's only hypothetical".
@@Real_MisterSir Considering the long list of his bankruptcies, and the fact that most bank refuse to give him any loan due to unreliability and bad credit, he is hardly a skilled racer in this story:D
It's like saying your doublewide is worth $250,000, the bank says $100,000 and loans you money based on that, and then some insane prosecutor says it's worth $1000 and drags you to court for claiming too high, which incidentally isn't illegal but the prosecutor ran on the promise of "getting you" because the rest of the trailer park hates your guts.
@@juzoli I'll have you know that his best quality is that he's very fast...
...especially when on such a steep downhill slope. XD
If the judge has to say "Apparently the point was not received" that's a bad sign.
the judge claimed that "tax value" and "market value" were the same thing and is in hot water for ignoring expert testimony and appointing himself as representative of a party without permission. Tax value is based on constants because market value fluctuates. Market value is based on the purchasing price as currently valued. let's use a pool as an example. The tax value would be on the pool itself. The market value could include things like: how much water is included, cleaning services, the current condition of the pool, how many people visit the pool, etc As an example, compare market prices of food in different locations. At the supermarket, hot dogs are about a dollar or two. At a ball park or in certain states, they can be five dollars or more. So, which is the market value? $1 or $5? the answer is NEITHER because those are under different conditions and the market value would be determined by either a national average for store price OR based on location.
@@nathanielbass771 I had to do tax and accounting as part of my degree, and what I can remember is that: Tax value and Market Value are not the same, but they also aren't several million dollars apart. Because additions like "water", cleaning services and conditions aren't that big a consideration. Market value still predominantly is valued based on the pool itself. You might get a few hundred dollars to maybe a couple thousand dollars in difference. Trumps valuation is fraud, blatant and brazen.
Also There is quite literally no article that has been produced suggesting that the Judge appointed himself as a representative.
LOL @@nathanielbass771
@@nathanielbass771 your example doesn't hold water. Trump & co-conspirators weren't claiming that their "hot dog" had different values in different markets.
They were claiming that, at the ball park because some people don't buy a $5 hot dog, their hot dog is only worth $1. But when talking to investors they're saying that there's a scenario in which a starving Jeff Bezos would pay $7,000,000 for the same hot dog so the fair market value is $7,000,000.
It's a bald face lie if you bother to glance at the facts.
@@nathanielbass771 Fact is, overstating an object's size by a large amount in order to make it appear more valuable, does indicate neither tax nor market value, but an imaginary one. And that's just one point of several.
I think Trump's biggest blunder in this case is underestimating how much New York City, and by extension the state of New York, hates him.
Nah. It's not that at all.
His biggest blunder is never stopping giving them more reasons to hate him. And then reminding everyone they why they hate him whenever something gets their attention and gives him a potential chance to slip away quietly.
@@DarthMcDoomington He should simply just never have touched high politics. No reason for him to actively paint such a target on his back, but he probably felt invincible and reinforced bad behavior due to how much effort it actually took to deal with his fraudulent mannerisms. He's someone who has never been in a position where he couldn't brush off those who told him no. Daddy's money gave him many things, except for the most important life lesson: Everyone can fall, if they keep walking towards the edge.
@@Real_MisterSir You know how rich boomers and gen-xers are, only THEIR generation has ever struggled for anything, only THEY do any work, only THEY are worthy of even scraps, it doesn't matter than younger generations do twice the work for half the price because that's all there is, THEY could afford to buy a house after delivering pizza therefore everyone else is just a whiner.
And of course, only THEY are TRULY patriotic! The fact they deliberately destroy the economy of the country whose flag they wave in everyone else's faces is irrelevant. The economy they destroyed not magically fixing itself is the young millennials and zoomers fault.
His biggest blunder was constantly lying about things that are both legal issues and punishable by fines and/or jail time. He just doesn't know how to shut his pie hole and now he's in big trouble for it.@@DarthMcDoomington
@@ericm5315 That's what I said, well part of it. "And then reminding everyone they why they hate him whenever something gets their attention and gives him a potential chance to slip away quietly."
He could have walked away while everyone else was distracted, but he just HAD to say "HEY EVERYONE! I'M STILL HERE AND YOU STILL HATE ME!"
He also kept committing new crimes and getting himself in the news, said news organizations would gladly ignore his crimes, but he kept committing new ones and giving people even more reasons to hate him.
i love the "oh wait its not alleged anymore i can clown on him" lmao
I wonder if she forgot to check the box for a jury trial or it was a conscious decision. Perhaps trumps thought is that if a jury found him to have committed fraud, it’s harder to argue they were biased compared to a single judge (he can easily assert that the judge was out to get him, corrupt, or just incompetent).
Had that thought too, but more directly he's already claiming the court is being unfair by not allowing a jury!
I'm wondering about something much grimmer: I wonder if she chose not to, knowing that if there were such a Jury, that every single one of those jury members' Loved Ones were going to be in mortal danger.
If she chose not to, either to protect them... or to prevent T from getting himself in even bigger trouble when he got caught.
Didn't someone say she had a gaming laptop when she was in court? She is one serious fake lawyer.
I'm going with incompetence rather than any kind of clever plan. The great thing about Trump is he pathologically cannot deal with being told no or not winning, so any reasonable and competent lawyers that have to tell him that in order to get him out of trouble were fired long ago.
On top of that he doesn't have any loyalty to anybody, he straight up never pays anybody despite being an alleged billionaire, so competent lawyers who would be willing to put up with his crap don't want to work with him.
So now he's left with a legal team that are not only incompetent toadies but so incompetent that they think he'll definitely pony up the money and stand in their corner when needed, which he never has.
It's like the perfect echo chamber of the dumbest and most divorced from reality people on earth.
@marvelouslife1309 gaming laptops are usually Hugh spec and can used for more than games including graphically intense PowerPoints or video editing so it's not uncommon the see people use gaming laptops even if it's not for mainly gaming
How exactly does Trump believe "You can't believe a word I say, and if you do, then I'm not liable for the results!" is a defense...?
I get the feeling he's been told in person - often - that his words are meaningless.
I think it's just been working for him his whole bloated, overlong life, falling a$$-first upwards over and over, why would he stop now? All it really took was pissing off 70 percent of America nonstop for years.
Unfortunately depending on the case that literally is a defense. Worked for Fox News with Tucker Carlson, for example, before they sacked him
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
@glowyboi7175 It did though. Not in the Dominion case, in a past case. They insisted that Tucker Carlson was clearly not meant to be taken completely seriously and therefore his outlandish claims could not be punished. And they won that case. In fact the only reason they lost the Dominion case is because Tucker wasn’t the only Fox host spreading lies, instead they all were and because they can’t claims EVERYONE isn’t meant to be taken seriously the argument didn’t hold.
From what I've learned from Elon musk and trump. Rich people who claim to be self made men are excellent examples of the Dunning cruger effect. They will run themselves off a cliff if their isn't an entire economy of people paid to keep them from doing so and even then they might do it still... pulling everyone else in their miserable company down with them.
So true.
In the old west they'd have been found dead like any other snake oil salesmen. Just more shit to be scraped off someone else's boot.
This makes you wonder what exactly is in Elons closet…
@@Beth.H
Skeletons made entirely from emerald
things trump has claimed to know more about than anybody: campaign finance, tv ratings, ISIS, social media, courts, lawsuits, politicians, the visa system, trade, the US government, renewable energy, taxes, debt, money, infrastructure, borders, construction, technology, drones, banking, wall street, the military, and the "horror of nuclear." they should rename the dunning kruger effect to the trump effect.
Seriously the lawyer forgetting to check the box for a jury trial is going to go down in history as one of the dumbest things in the history of lawyer-dom. I mean it has to be in like, the top 10 of the biggest examples of "for want of a nail" screwups in the history of the legal system, right?
this dos not make any sense, isn't that just going to lead to kangaroo court's?
like for what purpose dos having the option of having no jury achieve exactly?
I really don't understand how it's legal for clients to get screwed over by their lawyer messing up like that. It seems completely unfair, like a less extreme version of your lawyer accidentally saying you plead guilty.
Same shit with Alex Jones lawyer sending a shit ton of incriminating evidence to the prosecution by accident, I don't get how someone can just be screwed over by their lawyer that hard, I'd think the lawyer would be disbarred or the evidence not admissible.
Okay, but what if it was intentional?
@@lukasg4807 In Alex Jones's case, it's important to note that he'd sworn those documents (which he was legally required to hand over) didn't exist.
Sure it might not be entirely 'fair' to get screwed over by your lawyer like that, but when you ask your lawyer to commit crimes, what should the remedy be?
@@simonteesdale9752 Didn't the prosecuting lawyer contact Alex Jones lawyer giving him the chance to take back the files so they wouldn't be admissible? I don't really understand the rules around evidence but I thought the prosecution having to inform the defense and give them a chance to respond meant it wasn't something Alex Jones had to turn in.
All the people scammed by Trump from the Trump University victims, vendors who were never paid for their work, etc. must be feeling at least a little bit of vindication.
I hope all those little guys can find their invoices & get them ready - hopefully no timing has made them impossible to collect ! THAT would be really a good thing if he was forced to pay what he has owed to so many small contractors over the years !
Yeah the workers should be prioritized over any bank.
Unfortunately, as I just found by looking it up, only things within 3 years can be sued for collection. Each state has a statute of limitations for collecting this kind of stuff, and in NY it is 3. I really hope that some of them filed a contractor lean on the properties as that might still be there and would have to be paid I would guess at step 2 as the banks wouldn't want to miss out on anything.
And isn't it strange that the vile Trump-hating DA doesn't see anything wrong with Trump U business. Just stuff thar no bank has a problem with because all the banks vetted Trump's assets and got paid on time. No crime there. No upset bankers. No late payments. Umm ... where is the crime?
@@landerson7348 How can it only be 3 years when these things take years..?
He's now a publicly proven shyster of the highest order.
Which matters not at all to the people who'll be giving him their vote next year.
They willfully disbelieve. They see what they want to.
@stcarday9923 better than your criminals. Hypocritical don't you think?
stcarday has criminals? Have they been holding out on the rest of us?
I think those folks believe it's a feature to lie, scam, cheat and hate.
Jumping in here, don't mind me, but if these other criminals were publicly outed as such to their voters, I feel confident saying they would actually lose votes. Trump voters are impervious to his obvious issues. Hey have a good one, aight? Any enemy of hypocrisy is a friend of mine. I just don't think this is one of those cases.
What's really scary to me is that he's always been like this, and it only came out when he went into politics and pissed off powerful people. It really makes me wonder how many millionaires are the same way, but we don't know because they're not as public
Going into politics he lost his trtransparency
I have this definite feeling that Trump's fraud is "business as usual" in the world that he and many other real estate guys inhabit. Trump is just one who got caught.
The lesson being: if you do crimes, you should not run for president, because a sizable percentage of the nation will collectively fund pointing the biggest spotlight at your life to discover every reason you shouldn't have the job.
Exhibit B is Elon Musk...
@@ValleyOakPaperPrecisely. 👏🏼
Listening to lawyers is fascinating, you can see the way your training effects the way you speak, the little rhetorical flourishes and substructure underneath, i really like that
Amen
Yeah it's really refreshing to listen to well-spoken people especially nowadays lmao.
"Sophisticated counsel should have known better" is the kind of sentence that makes me feel embarrassed for that lawyer just by reading it. And they had to say it twice!
they put it in writing, that should hurt.
It’s a truly beautiful sentence. Chef’s kiss
6:47 One thing everybody seems to be missing regarding his claim that "no one was harmed" is that in fact, yes, people were harmed. Either the bank's shareholders or whoever else benefits from the profits of said bank because he overinflated the values of his properties to get a better interest rate on the loans. The money he put in his pocket by getting a better interest rate was taken directly out of the pockets of the shareholders and/or investors in the bank.
And if the "Music" stopped the banks would be left with property worth a fraction of the money lent.
Do banks suddenly not have independent property evaluators now or something? Strange that even the banks say thy weren't harmed.
@@KanyinYT that's like arguing the guy who broke into your house didn't really harm you because your alarm company should have warned you of his tresspass.
@@scottmatheson3346 No it's really not. You're allowed to say you have no idea what you're talking about.
@@KanyinYT That sounds like your own admission, more than anything. People are fully capable of both knowing what they're talking about _and_ disagreeing with you.
I used to hate hearing about Trump all of the time but not anymore.
Wait until he's back in the Oval Office.
EDIT: for those incapable of telling, I'm not a Trump nut, I'm just a guy who knows we live in the dumbest timeline.
Why would a Trump nut be watching Legal Eagle??
Nothing like watching Circus de Soleil levels of clownery for absolutely no direct cost to your own pocket.
@@whobitmynamethe cope is strong in this one 😂
@@ILikeToSayCaKaw He didn't say he'd be President at the time, just in the office.
@@whobitmynamewhat happens if he loses again, you gonna try another coup? Lol
As a friend of mine once simplified: “What happens when a toddler misbehaves and throws a tantrum? You take their toys away.”
Except this is more the neglectful parent who failed to take the kid's toys away when they first started misbehaving 5 years ago and now he's pulling this shit in public and becoming a massive embarrassment so they take away the kid's toys, send them to bed without dinner and ground them for the rest of their lives. Trying to do all the punishments all at once.
The "right" answer here would be for New York to prosecute such a high profile career criminal 40 or 50 years ago when he was just starting out and try to rehabilitate his business ethics before things got so out of control. Unfortunately they failed to do that so here we are - trying to do all the punishments all at once.
On one hand its a little unfair to the kid - they were never taught any better. But on the other hand, continuing to let it slide just means they also won't be taught any better next time or the time after that.
No, its more like the bad kid finally hit that age where he's considered to be an adult and suddenly all the stuff he used to do is no longer being handled with counseling and community service. Suddenly there's actual accountability and the kid thinks its unfair.
He's only being charged with the stuff he's actively involved in, though. No sign of the 70+ alleged SA's or charity scams being used to ratchet up the severity of the punishments or whatever. No "all the punishments all at once." Just no more free ride.
The metaphor would be correct if you would take away a toddlers toys permanently instead of giving them a timeout. That’s just child abuse and in this case weaponization of the DOJ
@@Epicname333 The Doj is supposed to be a weapon against corruption and criminality. That's its entire purpose for existing.
And, despite both the metaphor and Trump's childish behavior, he is NOT a child. Even now, he's not being charged with 1% of what he could be. 20 stolen documents, rather than 20,000. Zero charges related to his time in office.
@@Epicname333 What are you talking about? Its not "permanent". I mean at Trump's age and given the sheer number and seriousness of his crimes, he won't likely survive the sentence, but that doesn't make his sentence "permanent".
Also, its not "weaponization" of the DOJ to persecute crimes - that's their entire job. Your personal like or dislike of the accused is 100% irrelevant.
I love the fact that 90% of why trump gets in so much shit is not even because of the original crime but in his really poor attempts to cover them up 😂
Even better: he continues doing the same crimes after facing an injunction and a court ordered monitor.
@pierrecurie or he brags about getting away with it, when there was no cause to investigate it at the time, BECAUSE he covered it up.
@rgmartin2536 oh he 100% did the crime, he has straight up confessed to most of them but the sentence would be a lot lighter if he just went through the normal process instead of trying to 1 up the system and destroy evidence and interfere with things
@@luissanchez-ue1dt No, he really didn't. It's too the point that you are just making up loes to feel good.
@@springerworks002cope harder
And to think, if Trump never tried inflating his ego by becoming president none of this would be happening to him.
A narcissist's ego is already astronomically large, at that point he probably felt he deserved it
and if he'd said post Jan 6th that due to unforeseen circumstances he had no desire to run again for political office, none of it would have happened to him either. Which is exactly why a large portion of the US thinks, rightfully so, that this is politically motivated. I'm glad you and your 30+ upvotes can so clearly elucidate the absurdity of the claim that it isn't.
Drumpf’s income now is contributions from his supporters, which he launders through his PAC. I’m expecting in the future a massive indictment of Drumpf for fraud and money laundering with regard to his PAC’s. The wins just keep coming for Drumpf.
I think it's the other way around. He ran for president to avoid prosecution for 4-8 years.
@@michaelcicero2967ironically they tried giving him plenty of leeway to avoid seeming political. He still did the crimes so it’s technically not political, but I’m willing to bet it would’ve been swept under the rug if he didn’t keep pushing it
The "Unexplained and unsubstatiated dreams" footnote had me howling with laughter
Something I might never understand is how my Christian conservative family supports Trump because he claims to be pro life. "he's a known liar and cheater" met with "yes but he says he's pro life"
In my experience, for people like that, it's less about being good Christians and more about pushing their dogma on the rest of us. Jimmy Carter was a good christian, and they turned on him as soon as they realized he actually practiced what he preached.
Don't expect decency or sound logic from cultists. Sorry you have to deal with them.
@@catboysephiroth560dude stop being agaist religion a cult is a flowing of extremists who persecute non cultists especialy former cultists
Values in this case only matter when it comes to skin color
Same as the dems, policy over personality
"I pay no taxes because I'm smart" Never forget that quote.
funnily enough, that's actually one of the only lies he ever told. Trump had actually overpaid his previous year by around a million dollars and used that to reduce the tax value for the next year as a credit.
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend", never try to cheat on your taxes.
taxes are taxes, if someone said they found a way to skirt taxes they are showing they are NOT smart. some tax person lied to them and duped them into fraudulently doing taxes.
He claimed to benefit from the same tax codes as many other politicians exposing a faulty system.
@@henlohenlo689nah! It's more he got out of line and than he lost his rights to do his taxes that way anymore. While other elites still do not it.
Unbelievable how someone achieved “billionaire” status basically by inheriting a bunch of money, not paying contractors, and lying about the value of their assets. While doing way less work than the average working class individual.
The entire concept of “self-made billionaires” is so glaringly empty all the way down to its core.
there is exactly one self-made billionaire in the world, and he got there by literally inventing the Windows operating system, an infinitely reproducible and universal software as a cornerstone of all economic activity in the 21st century.
It was a literal once in history confluence of factors.
everyone else climbs on the skeletons of antebellum generations
The entire concept of "discovery and civilization of America" comes pretty close, but why contrast false with empty?
Lets not forget avoiding tax.
The funniest thing is that he would have more money than he has now if he'd just taken his inheritance and parked it in an S&P 500 Index account. His active involvement underperformed a completely passive stock market investment.
They claim to be movers and shakers, people who innovate and create value for society, but the truth is they are simply parasites extracting value from society and hoarding it for themselves.
Something I'm amazed Trump is taking this long to learn is that the people of NY are famous for their short tempers for a damn good reason.
New York is corrupt and all the judges reflect this.
F NY.
lol....new yawk. relevant since...never.
We don't take people's bs very well this is true.
@@farhatjones683 Yeah, New York City is "irrelevant". Keep telling yourself that
It is truly shocking to hear "professional lawyers" use arguments that would get you laughed out of high school debate class like "if I hypothetically sold it to the richest men alive they might be willing to pay such an unreasonably high price, so I should be legally allowed to declare it's worth that much"
I'm genuinely baffled that you can graduate law school with that level of incompetence
You know its bad when a lawyer stops using the term 'allegedly'.
This is gonna be talked about in law school for years.
In the motivation to new students "as long as you not this bad you doing ok"
You mean ' decades '?
Imagine stealing 100 million dollars, using that million dollars to invest and make 15 million dollars in profit, then returning the original 100 million and acting like you should be able to keep the 15 million in profit.
Like the original owner couldn't have made 15 million in profits too if they had access to their money.
That's what Trump is trying to do here, in essence.
"No one was harmed here." is a terrible argument. If I loan someone a million dollars because they put up property as collateral saying it is 1 million, but in reality, that property is only work 250k, if you don't pay me back, I am out my money; but even if you do, I could have actually given that loan to someone who did actually have it. So, the argument "no one is harmed" is just wrong. Money isn't infinite, money given to you is money that can't be given to someone else.
His crimes were common knowledge. It’s nice to see he is finally getting what’s coming to him.
Hunter's illegal business with Ukraine and China? I KNOW! ITS TIME!!!!
As a famous quote states “What goes around, comes back around.”
I've spent so much of my adult life trying to avoid leaning into the natural human capacity for schadenfreude BUT if anyone has spent their whole life taking advantage of people, lying, being selfish, causing destruction and hurt and worse, it's Donald Trump and I'm allowing myself to quietly relish the karma that's FINALLY catching up to him.
Did he honestly think all those businesses he shafted over decades were just going to go quietly away and leave him alone? When you deliberately hurt so many people eventually they cooperate and bite back. Cohen is a perfect example
Karma is about what you get reincarnated as.
This is poetic justice.
@@nigeldepledge3790 I mean, karma is both traditionally and colloquially just the concept of things you do having an effect/consequences. The principle of karma in Indian religions can relate to rebirths but that’s not a consensus or definition. However, I take your point 🙃
Don't be too hard on yourself. It's not like he'll end of in the poor house. People are willing to give him their last dime for a piece of his used toilet paper. He can just do a book deal for a book someone else writes, some speaking engagements, or some more NFts and he'll be rich again.
@@johndoe6032he'd probably LOSE money on the NFT's at this point.
"It's not false inflation! Plenty of billionaires would buy it for that price!"
Billionaire logic in a nutshell.
It's worth some random number because I can name some people who have more money than that number!
It is. You can create a fictonal company with a trillion shares and get someone to buy one for $1. Therefore you can legitimately claim the company is now worth $1 trillion. However, the auditors are going to come after you pretty quick...
Theranos.
Plus it's more like "billionaire" , because I have never heard of other legit billionaires being this bad at paying *everyone* , and begging poor ppl to give him money. Keep in mind that show of his basically pulled him out of the poorhouse & he was claiming he was a filthy rich person then.
More damning, he didn't say "a billionaire would buy it," he specifically said "someone in saudi arabia" - he's all but naming his backer.
Trump has been doing this for so many years. The only thing I don’t understand is why this wasn’t done sooner. I thought he would never be touched. Other governmental figures need to be prosecuted the same.
maybe because "tax value" and "market value" aren't even close to the same thing and when asked, the supposed "victims" say that Trump not only followed the law but that he actually paid back his loans?
@@nathanielbass771Yeah and that's why he overestimated his apartment by 20,000 sqft? That's surely just the difference between tax and market value.
@@nathanielbass771 right .... and alleging that Mar-a-Lago was worth 10x the tax value because of unrestricted development potential when he himself donated that development potential in order to get a tax break ... that was so totally accidental /s
Seems like he's finally getting punished because he tried to overthrow the government. Turns out treason stops you getting a blind eye on your crimes.
donvote and report chatbots like that thing.
"Irony, can be very ironic, sometimes." Man you really ARE a lawyer
The idea of a bidding war for the Trump brand just tickles me.
If I had the money, I would buy the Trump brand and the Port A Potty company. Then I would start distributing Port A Trump units at festivals, construction sites, etc. for everyone to shit in.
@@MrClickityI like that idea!
@@MrClickity "Trump Dumps"?
The GOP should buy Trump brand and use AI and tell everyone Trump isn't the real Trump and listen to there AI
@@yesyes3010 are you dim? He wants to dissolve the constitution!
Okay... but can we do this with all other highly affluent people. I'm thrilled that we can hold people accountable in this regard... but disheartened that much of this is happening after his transgressions are so public that they can't be ignored. Why couldn't this have been caught BEFORE presidency.
From what I understand, during the Michael Cohen hearings, AOC asked him a bunch of questions about Trump committing business fraud and the answers he gave allowed investors to justify deeper inquiries, leading to this.
@@Fralexion true. But also it makes me wonder the legal definition of asset values. And also the complexity of solid and liquid assets
*FINALLY* a Judge does their job and serves justice! This is helping to restore my faith in the courts of America.
Now, to throw the book at sovcits and frauditors.
@@thomasbecker9676
Unlike sovcits auditors are not actually breaking any laws.
@@memegazer They are. Don't be a lens-licker.
@@thomasbecker9676How are they breaking laws?
@@kx7500
Some people think being obnoxious about your rights should be illegal I guess
"Angron kicks Trump out of New York" was not on my 2023 bingo card.
It cracks me up that chump isn't even attempting to deny any of his numerous crimes; he is insistent that if he weren't currently in political running, none of these cases would be pursued. Ok, AND? What does it matter why any legal department is looking into any of these crimes? If a crime was committed, justice must be served. Is he trying to say he would have gotten away with it if he had just laid low? Maybe, maybe not; but he is a career criminal by his own admission.
That's always been his greatest weakness. He just can never help himself from bragging about his crimes.
Well, in this case, he's not denying the conduct -- he's simply denying that that conduct was unlawful. To be fair, that is a relatively common situation. For example, any time somebody denies murder or assault on the grounds of self defence, they're admitting the conduct (the killing or injury) but denying that it was unlawful.
@@beeble2003 Which makes sense when talking about self defence, but literally none of Trumps "arguments" (read half-formed thoughts) held any legal water, and half made no sense what so ever.
People talk about Biden being senile (clearly not fit for presidency either), but Trump can barely form a coherent sentence.
Neither of those old geysers should be president of one of the most powerful military powers in the world, although I'd rather have Biden.
At least he's a lot less dangerous, and less unpredictable.
@@MartinFinnerup I never said he was making _good_ arguments. I'm just pointing out that "Isn't even trying to deny it" is a completely normal situation and doesn't automatically imply that somebody feels they're above the law.
@@beeble2003 no, he makes no more bones about whether his conduct was unlawful. He and his lawyers have even given up that tack with the documents case. All they have left is table thumping and whining of witch-hunts. His press statements now all focus (as much as anything he says can be focused) on the idea that if he weren't a political candidate, these crimes would be allowed to rest. He might even truly believe that everyone is as corrupt and unlawful as he is, and that only those who ruffle feathers get legal pursuit.
It’s so funny how NONE OF THIS HAD TO HAPPEN. He could have grifted for the next few decades if he simply hadn’t run for office
Edit: Since I have to clarify for those lacking comprehension skills, if he hadn’t run in 2016 he would have STAYED under the radar as he has been for the last few DECADES. Rule number one of crime is don’t bring unnecessary attention to yourself
Narcissists can never see the mistakes they make, either in fore or hindsight.
In other words, e's getting indicted because he's running for office. Thank you for saying the quiet part out loud.
@@socraytes He's getting indicted because he broke a whole host of laws.
@@etougaming2176 The prosecution started WAY before he even ran for president.
@socraytes it started with him using campaign funds to pay hush money to a porn star. That is where the truth about his fraud came out. So had he not run he could have gotten away with it.
Everytime Trump brags about how much he and his brand are actually worth way more, I'm like "hey look, Tax fraud"
Absolutely! If you buy a candy bar for a dollar, you cannot set a sale price above a dollar, or it is fraud? The executives of evey bsiness in the country MUST be arrested NOW!
The judge needs to ask him if he wants to pay the retroactive property taxes on what he claims mar-a-lago is worth
im confused as to why anyone would claim something costs more than its worth when that makes you have to pay way more property tax and other costs?
@@ModrunOfficialbecause he's not paying anything for them, he doesn't pay taxes...
Right, now let's start making a list. Koch, Crowe, Musk..........................................................
He's scared. His demeanor is different, his voice too. The speed of his speech, the darting around of his eyes, the mild shake in his words
Wait. Are you telling me that Trump lied? I am going to have to sit down so I can process this information.
Buster: "You really think someone would do that? Just go on TV and tell lies?"
Perfect sarcasm here sir xD
🤣
Might take a few months to get it all straight.
I'm not going to lie: it is genuinely shocking that the American justice system is finding him accountable for anything given its track record.
I can't believe they actually did something after ALL THIS TIME !!!!!!!😡
Hopefully this is just the start of him facing conseq for his actions, as well as others like him
Seriously. He's been operating like this, very openly, for DECADES.
The only reason it ever happened is because Trump managed to piss off enough seriously powerful people that he finally maneuvered himself into a position where his money couldn't save him.
The judge violated multiple laws in the case including impersonating an expert when he disregarded expert testimony and when he appointed himself as representative of a party without permission. The case has already been appealed and won at both state and federal level...
There's a saying on the internet: "If corporations are people, they should be able to receive the death penalty" I never expected in a million years that would become true!
It’s insane this man still has a loyal following.
What's even more insane, is that the Democratic Criminal Empire has such a loyal following!! 🤡🤡🤡
He's the first white supremacist to actually get into office. That's the only thing his supporters care about.
Brand loyalty is an awful disease, and I'm sure that at least 85% from both sides suffer tragically from it. The even more tragic part is... they don't believe they suffer from it.
People are surprisingly afraid of being wrong.
I would like to think the cult is smaller than it was when he won the 2016 election. Still absurdly large, though, like people thinking a .175 hitter who also can't field should be in the Hall of Fame, and are willing to riot in Cooperstown if asked.
If Trump loses the right to monetize his name, that will be hilarious in the most ironic way; I really hope that comes to pass.
Haven't laughed so much since Fox had to cough up $ 800 million🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Don't hold your breath. The AG and the judge screwed up. The AG failed to produce any witness that claims he/she relied on Trump's magic numbers, so the only evidence is speculation, which is inadmissible and grounds for appelate reversal.
Donald Trump will have to go by the name "The Criminal Formerly Known as Donald Trump" 🤣
At this point, I doubt there is any scope to monetize his name anyway.
@@alexanderSydneyOzoh how wrong you are
Imagine if a left wing group bought his name, you think i wouldnt pay an enourmous premium for trump brand abortion pills? Trump brand estrogen? Trump brand dominatrix gear? Imagine the brand trolling you could do
Have a trump brand version of every single thing the right hates and fears, id pay so much for things like that
Legal Eagle Pro Tip #1: "When the judge compares your argument to the film Groundhog Day and accuses you of sophistry, you're about to get a legal beatdown." Words to live by. Thanks - I needed the chuckle.
They're treating him like any other organized criminal; You hit them where their money is and you take away their ability to launder it.
That's it exactly.
Trump can't keep his massive cons going when he has no access to funding and markets. Especially real estate markets.
Democrat party is the most organized criminal enterprise in American history. They own all the DA's and the judges.
The more I hear about these cases, the more convinced I am that Donald J Trump has no idea how money actually works.
He really doesn't. He inherited all of his money and assets from his dad and he's been squandering them for decades. The man's produced more flops than a fish on land.
He does that’s why he overvaluated his assets. He deserves a slap on the wrist for this instead of the corporate death penalty though. This is INSANE.
I'm reminded of Eddie Murphy's line in the classic 1980s movie Trading Places: "It occurs to me that the best way to hurt rich people is by turning them into poor people."
Remember everyone, it's perfectly acceptable (if not encouraged) to point and laugh at floundering billionaires.
In fact, I'd call it trendy! And I love this trend!
I don't think he was ever a billionaire.
@@sans3go342That just makes it funnier
Oh, I've been laughing and cringing at Elon for years.
@@sans3go342Considering his tendency to lie on financial matters, I wouldn't be surprised at all if you were correct.
"Obviously, this court cannot consider an 'expert affidavit' that is based on unexplained and unsubstantiated 'dream[s]'" - well, I suppose this is the most professional and blatant way of saying "you're full of sh*t".
have to say it. Trump really looks shaken in those news clips, almost like some one slapped him in the face. this ruling must really hit him where it hurts.
I'd say that last part was correct. All, or pretty much all of his properties plus his name is owned by organizations in NY. He's gone.
Because it's at the point where he's committed so many blatantly obvious crimes that he can't just money his way out of it like all the other politicians and wealthy do
Right in the narcissism
Couldn't happen to a more deserving crook.
It's scary that even though some people have finally realized who Trump is and has always been, there are still many out there who will see all of this and still not accept that Trump has always been a conman looking out for only his own interests.
What's even worse is that he ran an entire country for 4 years. And not any country, but THE country.
@@faytbouleouve9811the point you are missing is that describes every single politician. They all are conmen with an agenda looking out for their interests. The reason trump has as much support as he does is because regardless of the controversial things hes said he still seems to push for america first in a day in age where we really need that. We dont need jobs being pushed over seas or to be paying a huge price for energy when we could be energy sufficient. The current administration seems to cater to other countries (ukraine) more than trying to help with ours.
@@faytbouleouve9811 News for you, every leader of the US for the past several decades has been a complete sociopath. The last non-sociopathic president was probably JFK and the sociopaths murdered him in cold blood.
Yep. Right now they are over on Fox/etc shouting about activist judges and constitutional rights. I clicked on a Fox site just to see the response and it was stunning. There is literally nothing that he can do that will turn them against him.
@faytbouleouve9811 ah American exceptionalism. what qbout the USA makes it *the* country exactly?
I enjoy these videos because even though this guy talks fast and I'm not a lawyer, everything he says is understandable. Good work.
Yeah I agree, Legal Eagle's great.