This was my take. Current eren has been waiting for future eren to open his memories to grisha, while grisha was losing it eren was inside his mind watching the terror vision alongside grisha to learn whats going to happen later, when grisha said zeke had to stop eren it meant that grisha had finally seen the end, meaning eren had just seen the end.
also what Eren is doing here is trying to break Zeke's will to fight, he allowed Zeke to have a closure with Grisha so that there's nothing left within him to push further for his goal(euthanize plan)
It's quite funny and ironic to know that how the Founding Titan was ruled by its predecessors, yet the Attack Titan was ruled by its successors. Isayama really knows how to make a parallel story.
@@nerevarchthn6860 eren ruled the attack titans because of his founding titan's abilities that's how he was able to send memories to kruger about armin and mikasa and to grisha and his younger self
@@nerevarchthn6860 no it's not that's just speculation from grisha both kruger and grisha saw the future because eren sent the memories to them not because they can do it with the attack titan eren was only able to send memories back because of the founding titan ability no other attack titan was able to see the future only eren who had both the attack and founding and we know that eren can send what he want through the founder when activated by royal blood again both thing eren had in his hand the attack titan's real power was the will to fight against the king that's why all the holders were revolutionary don't forget that the power to erase memories was also a founding titan ability
Once again, props to Grisha's VA. He absolutely went off in this episode. The stuff with him and Zeke was really great. And even though Eren tries to act all like, "I was tricking you all along, brother. I would never go along with a plan like this" for most of this episode, I think Eren actually does care for and love Zeke. And the reason I say that is because we see that when Grisha tells Zeke to stop Eren, Eren forcibly rejects Zeke from the memory. Meaning Eren could've ejected Zeke the moment the Reiss family was taken care of. But he instead chose to wait and allowed both Grisha and Zeke to get their own form of emotional closure before cutting them off. So yeah, I think Eren does care for his older brother. The same way that Zeke cares about Eren and wanted to show him the light of his plan, Eren cares about Zeke but won't stop moving forward to reach his.
Eren doesn't love Zeke, he pities him. There is significant difference. And Eren is able to forcibly eject Zeke from the memory because Zeke is losing control of the situation. It is a battle of wills and Zeke's is faltering.
I think that Zeke is the one who shuts the memory down. He was the one who initiated the walk through Grishas memories, and I think once he heard his dad’s shocking warning, he pulled the plug on the memory out of the panic wanting to exit that whole situation. He’s so shook he just fell down out of disbelief while Eren of course had the collected smug look, because he knew exactly what was going down. IMO
@@Timtomjg yes exactly this, it was zeke backing out of pure shock n terror cause in the next episode you can see that Eren wasn't done, he said "you haven't even seen the part where I eat Girsha" So it was Zeke backing out not Eren throwing him out.. Also Eren is allowing Zeke to get a closure because he's also trying to break Zeke's will to fight so that he can't continue with euthanasia plan
Zeke is the one who ejected from the memory. He had the founder and Eren was taunting him with the fact that they had skipped the memory where Eren inherits the AT.
The basement twist was huge but this twist cemented AoT as one of the best things I’ve ever read/watched. This blew my mind when I read it in the manga for the first time. Also Grisha’s voice actor is hands down the best in the series. He gave an award winning performance 🤯
@You alright boi ? I mean we knew from day 1 that there was an outside world but we didn’t know the scale of it. I read the manga and we had to wait literal months between chapters with nothing to go off of so it was surprising to read when it dropped for the first time. With the Mikasa thing, I think it was a weird plot point that didn’t really need to be in the story imo. She’s badass without some BS power
If you rewatch Eren talking to Zeke about what Grisha did to the royal family, Eren says he was disgusted by Grisha’s actions. Eren was upset not that Grisha attacked the royal family, but that he was unable to.
17:34 To Morgan's point, the speed at which Eren resorts to violence is not by any means normal. He's had a normal, boring upbringing his entire life up until that point. No 10 (?) year old should be capable of that level of aggression unless they're some sort of psychopath or grew up in a violent, war-torn environment. For a variety of reasons, it took a full episode for the survey corps to get used to the idea of human on human violence back in season 3, yet it was second nature to Eren. Obviously Isayama was trying to convey that Eren's disposition is not something that was forced on him or inherited, and that he was always like this since birth, but Morgan is right to point out how disturbing it should be.
Agree. I understand that it was Mikasa or them and it was the only way but Eren killing two men specially at such young age and never losing a night's sleep over it says something.
@@paulsanchez7833 Not only that when his dad questions his actions he refers to the men as animals that needed to be slaughtered. The kid was disturbed...
I also love how Isayama intentionally places Eren's child-murdering-spree *before* he gets the attack titan. He was like that without any titan influence.
@@AvereeChaloupka Eren *is* the Attack Titan's influence; none of its inheritors would have pushed forward like they did without his memories, including himself.
but have you thought about why was he always like this since birth, being born in a peaceful non violent atmosphere he still turned out this way why? answer is Ymir. He's born out of Ymir's hatred n anger that she didn't show infront of anyone but was feeling inside all along. She was waiting for someone like him, this hatred of hers took 2k years to come on surface as Eren.. 💀💀
Last episode Sean, you thought Zeke had out smarted Eren. After this episode, we learn Eren was playing past, present and future 4D path chess all at once and winning. Also, Grisha's VA. 👏👏 👏
I don't really see Eren playing particularly good chess here. He just knows parts of how the future goes, so he tries to follow the path he thinks leads there. But he's still going to get outmaneuvered at times (like with Zeke or with Marley's surprise attack).
@@MRST0R yeaah like he knows what would happen in the future but not the detailed information but makes actions that leads him there to that future on how it will be kinda like being a blind person using Google maps to go to a certain destination
@@UnlistedAgain I think you got it wrong . Eren saw many future but in everyone at the end Paradise is destroyed and some deaths inevitable like Shasha that's why Eren was pissed . Eren saw if Mikasa confessed that day what would happen . In the end Eren made them hero and died but still Paradise destroyed . Eren was creating this new future by changing some events .He didn't take there titan powers so they could stop him and become hero . Eren was above everyone and in the end he made right decision not Alliance
@@tito3996 no one was able to understand the power right away cause it's a bit confusing Everyone had to take the time to process the information before being able to fully get how the powers work
remember when the owl told grisha to build a family inside the walls? that was no random suggestion, this episode is implying eren staged his own birth 💀
I'm glad morgan brought up Eren killing people as a child because it can sometimes be brushed off as anime exaggeration but this episode pretty much solidifies that no Eren is kinda psycho and this is just the kind of person he is, that wasn't just a one off weird thing for developing our otherwise noble hero, our protag is kinda psycho
She was also so on point when she paralleled the two situations. Like yes, those gross human traffickers should have been dealt with.. but he was so brutal.
@@kendrakey2495 But it can only do that to the wielders of the Attack Titan. Child Eren didn't have Titan powers when he stabbed two people to death. That was all him!
"I'm not in danger, Zeke! I'm the danger! A guy opens his door and gets manipulated and you think that of me?! No! I'm the one who manipulates!" - Eren "Heisenberg" Jaeger
Krueger wondered whose memories those were, so he didn't know the full picture of what the Attack Titan could do. The words he spoke were word-for-word what Grisha told Eren when injecting him, as Eren remembered in the episode he saved Armin and Mikasa from canon fire. Krueger could have been recalling Grisha's memories of explaining how to turn into a titan.
Wasn’t Kruger the one who explained the ‘secret’ of the attack titan to grisha in the first place? How could he not know? I just thought he was saying he didn’t know who’s menories those were because he doesn’t know who the future inheritors are, but he knows that there are future inheritors.
@@Ivy94F He didn't explain the secret. If he had, Eren would have known about it before losing Historia's hand. Instead, Kruger just alluded to it. Grisha would have to figure it out on his own as he was being tormented by visions sent by his son.
A cool thing that took me a few watches to get is that everything Grisha is seeing through the memories is from Eren’s point of view. So when Eren is staring at him he’s essentially seeing himself in 3rd person, and whenever Grisha could see and hear Zeke it was because Eren was looking at Zeke
Eren can choose which memories he wants to show the past Attack Titan inheritors, that's why when Grisha was screaming at the end, he said "Why won't you show me everything? The wall being destroyed, & the day it happens. If Carla is safe." Eren is strategically sprinkling these memories to Grisha, manipulating him to do what Eren wants. When Eren kissed Historia's hand, that moment unlocked all the memories for him, that's why his whole demeanor changed. Initially he became depressed in the last episode of Season 3, while everyone was celebrating seeing the ocean for the first time, Eren was the only one that seemed off. Then in Season 4 he just outcasted himself. From the moment he kissed Historia's hand, he knew everything that was going to happen, but just not in detail (stuff like Sasha dying), he just knew what he had to do from that point on. This episode was so good, I was mindblown & glad I wasn't spoiled. Lol
Eren's chains from the previous episode have a new meaning by the end of this one. He's a prisoner of fate unable to change the path he was on from the beginning. Looking back, it's interesting how the episode that revealed Grisha killing the Reiss family is simply titled 'Sin' without alluding to any specific person.
Holy crap I can't believe we're finally at THAT episode😭🙌 it's been a long time coming but I think we're all ready for their minds to be blown once again for the absolute insanity that is episode 21🤯
Grisha and Frieda are there for no other reason than to act as vessels so two people, one years in the future and one dead for a century, can have a debate on the nature of sin and freedom.
The moment Isayama got prices for Season2 Episode 6 ''Warrior'', as one of the best written/produced plottwists ever - he already wrote the ''Memories of the future'' and ''From you 2000years ago'' scenery that changes the whole paradigm of storywriting. Aot started 2011 and there Grisha already watched at grown future Eren in Chapter1/Episode1. That, for me, makes aot the best show to rewatch :D The whole 1-3 Saga are completely enchanted through all the foreshadows in like every episode and introductions to future Storycircles.
19:12 it's really Eren "sitting there", the only reason the Attack Titan can see the future it's Eren, he's able to move freely through the paths after he gets Ymir's power. it's not really the attack titan power if you stop to think about it, Eren just manipulated all the attack titan holders (his father for example) to get him on the right path, it's specifically Eren's power
Yep it's kinda weird when you think about how marley never found the attack titan even though it was right under them, then how kruger chose a failed spy to go into the walls all by himself to retake the founding titan knowing that even marley couldn't.
it was actually the attack titan + royal blood power, cus just the attack titan couldnt do it, sadly Eren didnt liked to hold hands with Historia more often
I really love how Sean pointed out the similarities to GoT's Three-Eyed Raven subplot here. Funnily enough IMHO AoT handled the whole "(literally) take a trip down memory lane / influence the past" arc better. It gave me what I wanted from GoT.
So few things to point out. - It is possible that Eren and Zeke spent years in Grisha´s memories. - Grisha didn´t "see" Zeke himself, he saw at Eren´s point of view, thats why he began to look depressed. Becasuse he all ways knew that the future Attack Titan is watching his every move (this is why people theorize they spent years in memories).
There's no question that this episode is the greatest and most confusing of all. Still I have something to point out. 15:10 Every time Grisha was able to see Zeke it's because he was seeing from Eren's Point of view. Because Eren was seeing both his father and brother, Grisha could hug his older son. ;) Great reaction! :)
Beside the great plot twist, the flow of the events, the awesome music, and the details, Grisha's VA did a phenomenal job this ep. Like u can feel the pain and devastation from what he did and saw especially when he said "I killed them are u happy now". This scene makes me tear up every time. Loved ur reaction btw as always. Waiting for u to finish this so I can binge watch ur reaction again❤️
I'm with Morgan. Eren relishes in the extreme, and I feel like that's what she's trying to say about him. He in no way questions himself going full violent in any scenario regarding vengeance. Killing the traffickers wasn't something most of us lost sleep over. I think what shocked us was this literal kid who took pleasure in their deaths and didn't think one more thought about it. Idc who you are that's disturbing, especially for a child who's had a decent upbringing; and I think that was the point. When he turned into a titan for the first time, once again, he was relishing in the destruction. When he was fighting Annie at the end of season 1, he said, "I will destroy everything." Correct me if I'm wrong on that or if it was a translation thing. But yea, I definitely see her point that he's always been like this from the very start. From ep 1, y'all have told Eren he needs to chill. lol
Exactly. The decent upbringing part. It’s very subtle but it’s a huge clue to Eren’s innate horrific nature despite his environment. I see him as the inverse of Levi. Levi’s environment would design him to be violent yet he’s very much a caring and sensitive soul.
Well...now we know that the moment Eren kissed Historia's hand at the end of S3, the Eren we knew then basically died. Poor guy really got mindfucked in the most twisted way possible lol...no wonder he changed so drastically in his demeanor 😞 MAPPA really elevated the manga this episode! Everything from the voice acting (Grisha's VA went off!!) to the animation was just so beautifully done.
I think the craziest thing about the argument between Grisha and Frieda is that it's not even them arguing. It would be more accurate to say that its a throwdown between Eren years in the future through his father, and King Fritz a hundred years in the past through his descendant. The time in this show is all sorts of crazy fucker.
Loved this ep. Eren really said "The eff do you mean, daddy issues? Traumatize your father right back!" XD I love that everyone thought that eren was playing Zekes game, but eren wasn't even playing the same game. Mans was out here playing 6D chess🤣 Also i love the voice actors, especially Eren's, but grishas va really shone this ep. Last also. I have to remind you that the author of attack on Titan manga said that once the manga is over, he wants to start a spa with the blood and sweat of his fans. So you know the dude is insane and has more shit planned.
Morgan hit it on the head. Yes, when we saw Eren saving Mikasa we were like "fuck yeah", but when you think about it it's chilling to think a child around 8 just planned and killed humans just like that without hesitation. Eren was never a normal person, he's always had this in him since he was born. So yeah, that was foreshadowing by Isayama for this twist: Eren is actually a psycho.
Clarification eren does choose when past users sees memories. That is why whenever you see Grisha react in some way eren is always behind him. Grisha in those moments is seeing himself through erens eye's
14:26 This is literally the personification of a Marvel movie: "Let me ruin the gravitas in this scene to insert a pointless, unfunny fucking joke and ruin the moment because I need some attention."
You dont understand it. It has nothing to do with zeke. Zeke only made it possible to CHANGE the past, seeing is no problem. And his future can be seen through grishas memorys of the memorys of a future eren. So he himself decides what he sees and what he doesnt
@@tito3996 But didnt Grisha say that eren SHOWED him his memories of the future? So those memories werent obtained by grisha. Also can you explain how seeing the past is no problem, and how zeke only makes it possible to change?
Memories of the Future. People refer to this episode as the "greatest twist" in any fiction or TV out here. 12 years worth of build up since Episode 1 all for it to pay-off flawlessly, and executed thematically perfect without fail.
On the "Grisha saw what Eren's going to do, i trust his opinion comment"; Grisha did tell Zeke to stop Eren but that was BEFORE he knew the walls had been destroyed and his wife was eaten alive. AFTER he learned all of that, Grisha still went ahead and gave Eren his titans(Attack and Founding he just stole) despite knowing Eren pushed him to kill the whole family, etc...
He didn't know that his wife was dead or not, but he DID know that the walls were going to be broken. He's pleading with the royal family to use their power to stop that very thing from happening/continuing.
This is probably why Eren did not let Grisha know if Carla would survive or not. After what he just did to him, he knew that Grisha needed the shock of losing yet another loved one to Marley to go ahead and give him the titans.
The Attack Titan can't change the past. The only reason it could do anything in that moment was Zeke enabled it by taking Eren on the walk down memory lane. The Attack Titan can just act independent of a linear timeline in that one moment because Grisha and Eren are both the same single entity-the Attack Titan. Eren didn't really change the past, the Attack Titan just did what it always did in a non-linear order from our perspective. Also I don't think it is about "Eren accessing Grisha" or anything like that...more like the Attack Titan picks and chooses what future memories to reveal to the past inheritors of the Attack Titan. The way I understand it is essentially the Attack Titan is in itself a separate individual with its own intentions and it hijacks every inheritor to make them do what it needs them to do to reach its final goal....a goal Eren's iteration of the Attack Titan seems to be fulfilling...
Just a wild theory. Eren woke up crying in the very first episode of AOT. Could he have seen all these events and the ones to come as a nightmare so he woke up crying? I don't know if its possible since he only got the titan form afterwards but the memories are all connected and present time Eren can traverse through the memories and he showed those memories to the past Eren. 🤔🤔
eren only had the power to manipulate grisha because he got to the paths with zeke and was allowed into those memories, the manipulation aspect isnt something consistent across all attack titans
At the end of season 3 where Eren kisses Historia's hand, a couple minutes before that he says to Armin "How can anyone know the future?". Lmao Isayama had this whole thing planned out and was probably just giggling to himself writing it.
For me personally, I didn't think the Attack Titan can go back and change history. It's just that they have access to memories of the past and the future, which gives them so much information on what to do. However, in this episode, we should remember that the place they are currently in is the place where all paths converge. Past, present, and future kind of connect to that same place. Eren doesn't have that power without the royal blood involved. Attack Titans having access to future owners' memories combined with Eren being in a place where all paths converge (including Eren's and Grisha's) made it possible for him to influence Grisha in that time.
The Reiner reveal plot twist from Season 2 looks kinda cute now, doesn't it? We all thought that was the craziest shit ever, but this is so much bigger. The whole show started because Eren wanted to do a global genocide to free the Eldians on the island. If Eren didn't push his dad to steal the Founding Titan, the Marleyans wouldn't have sent the Warriors, and Eren's mom wouldn't have been killed, and Eren probably wouldn't have grown up to be someone capable of doing a global genocide. It's a full circle.
Eren is that one villain whose backstory and reasoning for why he's doing what he's doing is so good, it'll trick you into thinking he's the main hero.
@@bruhhh8326 no hero's doing genocide. I already accepted that eren made up his mind to be the "bad guy" but there's still mofos thinking he's still the "hero".
I think Eren is controlling what Grisha and to some extent Kruger sees so that no one does anything drastic to change. The story has to unfold exactly this way to get to the ending. I think present Eren can see glimpses of the future but again future Eren is controlling it.
I don't see it that way. IMHO, all that Eren knew about the future is what Grisha talked about at the church. Neither Eren nor any other Attack Titan can see their own future. They can only see memories of their successors. Season 3 Eren only saw this church scene through Grisha's eyes, and S1 Grisha saw parts of that church scene through S4 Eren's eyes (thanks to Zeke's royal blood memory shenanigans).
22:30 im not sure if the bast attack titans knew about the ability of changing memories bcs they probably were controlled by eren crouger said after mentioning armin and mikasa that he didn't knew the person that send this memory
He didn't know whose memories they were. Personally I think it's actually Grisha's memory from when he was about to inject Eren and telling him how to transform to save Armin and Mikasa. Literally word for word what Grisha said in S1 when Eren first transformed on purpose. And who knows, maybe that Grisha had already seen memories of Eren needing to transform to save Armin and Mikasa.
Season 4 is my favorite because it’s a point where there isn’t a “bad guy”. It’s all about your perspective. Eren may seem like the bad guy to us now, but considering what he’s doing it for…how bad is he…
@@artbarge713 How? Before Eren ever acted the Eldian sympathizers were gassing each other up to free the Eldians of the world by killing the hateful devils of Paradis. The hateful devils that had no idea what was going on or that there was a world outside their walls. Willy Tybur gathered all nations to declare war on Paradis without having clear knowledge that Eren was skulking in the background. Even the attack on Paradis Island was entirely selfish. The rest of the world was catching up with their anti Titan weapons and Marley needed the Founding Titan and Paradis's resources to keep their war machine going. Eren is responsible for a lot. A lot a lot. But the nations of the world earned Paradis's hatred. You can't hold those people responsible for the sins of their grandfather's, grandfather's, grandfather's, grandfathers.
@@artbarge713 except they have literally punished the island way more than necessary and are trying to get rude of them?? Sooooo again, who’s the villain. Are you watching the show w your eyes closed
They got it wrong af, eren can only communicate with grisha. Back and forwards. AND eren can controll what he sends to grisha. Grisha cried about why eren didnt show him the future of his wife
Not only Grisha, Eren simply manipulates every Attack Titan's successors to accomplish his plan (Kruger and his predecessors), because he's the only Attack Titan's shifter who has the power of Founding Titan, hence why he could easily put his will to them like, "We keep moving forward. Even if we die. Even after death."
Eren can't even have 2 way communication with Grisha. He can only send one way messages, like standing in front of a mirror and ordering him to fight. It was only because Zeke played a movie of Grisha's memories that they were able to communicate with each other.
The founding titans power made eren's attack titan the strongest attack titan...he could manipulate the past users of the attack titan because of the founding titans power
I'm so glad I can finally say this and it not be a spoiler, Thank you for being the only reaction channel to realize Eren was a fucked up kid and a murderer from the beginning instead of looking at the earlier moments of the show with rose tinted lenses. Eren is a freaking sociopath, and I am so happy that I'm finally not the only one who already knew Eren was gonna jump to genocide from the start (I mean c'mon, he has basically chosen violence as the immediate solution to pretty much everything)
Eren ne peut pas voir son futur mais il peut envoyer ses souvenirs dans le passé. Mais il a les souvenirs de son père. Si dans le futur il envoie ses souvenir à son père que son son lui du passé à accès aux souvenirs de son père qui lui a les souvenirs du futur d'eren alors eren peut voir son futur dans les souvenirs de son prédécesseur 🤯
I never understood why they didn't show Eren's thoughts right after he ended up killing a whole bunch of people when he fought Annie inside wall Sheena, i didn't read the manga so i don't know if they are gonna touch on that, but i find it strange that no scene was made showing Eren feeling conflicted or something
Part of it I suspect is because Eren is not fully conscious in his titan form until he fights Reiner halfway through season 2. He's mostly in a blind rage up until that point. The "reification of mankind's rage" as it was once eloquently put by Mikasa.
@@gokay6476 But i think it's still off putting to the audience seeing him and his friends not mentioning or thinking about it when it happened, Mikasa talked to Eren when he attacked Marley but it wasn't the first time he killed innocents, as if Isayama decided to not touch on that and ignore for a moment without giving a justification why
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This was my take. Current eren has been waiting for future eren to open his memories to grisha, while grisha was losing it eren was inside his mind watching the terror vision alongside grisha to learn whats going to happen later, when grisha said zeke had to stop eren it meant that grisha had finally seen the end, meaning eren had just seen the end.
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Great, now I think the Editor is Sean's twin brother
also what Eren is doing here is trying to break Zeke's will to fight, he allowed Zeke to have a closure with Grisha so that there's nothing left within him to push further for his goal(euthanize plan)
It's quite funny and ironic to know that how the Founding Titan was ruled by its predecessors, yet the Attack Titan was ruled by its successors. Isayama really knows how to make a parallel story.
Thats not entirely true only eren ruled the attack titans while the founder can always influence the next generation
@@nerevarchthn6860 eren ruled the attack titans because of his founding titan's abilities that's how he was able to send memories to kruger about armin and mikasa and to grisha and his younger self
@@aligmal5031 that has nothing to do with the founding titan its purely attack titan power
@@nerevarchthn6860 no it's not that's just speculation from grisha both kruger and grisha saw the future because eren sent the memories to them not because they can do it with the attack titan eren was only able to send memories back because of the founding titan ability no other attack titan was able to see the future only eren who had both the attack and founding and we know that eren can send what he want through the founder when activated by royal blood again both thing eren had in his hand
the attack titan's real power was the will to fight against the king that's why all the holders were revolutionary
don't forget that the power to erase memories was also a founding titan ability
This is, in fact, the reason why I accused Morgan of witchcraft during the season 3 finale. I've yet to see any reason to retract the allegation.
Once again, props to Grisha's VA. He absolutely went off in this episode. The stuff with him and Zeke was really great. And even though Eren tries to act all like, "I was tricking you all along, brother. I would never go along with a plan like this" for most of this episode, I think Eren actually does care for and love Zeke. And the reason I say that is because we see that when Grisha tells Zeke to stop Eren, Eren forcibly rejects Zeke from the memory. Meaning Eren could've ejected Zeke the moment the Reiss family was taken care of. But he instead chose to wait and allowed both Grisha and Zeke to get their own form of emotional closure before cutting them off. So yeah, I think Eren does care for his older brother. The same way that Zeke cares about Eren and wanted to show him the light of his plan, Eren cares about Zeke but won't stop moving forward to reach his.
Eren doesn't love Zeke, he pities him. There is significant difference. And Eren is able to forcibly eject Zeke from the memory because Zeke is losing control of the situation. It is a battle of wills and Zeke's is faltering.
I think that Zeke is the one who shuts the memory down. He was the one who initiated the walk through Grishas memories, and I think once he heard his dad’s shocking warning, he pulled the plug on the memory out of the panic wanting to exit that whole situation. He’s so shook he just fell down out of disbelief while Eren of course had the collected smug look, because he knew exactly what was going down. IMO
@@Timtomjg yes exactly this, it was zeke backing out of pure shock n terror cause in the next episode you can see that Eren wasn't done, he said "you haven't even seen the part where I eat Girsha" So it was Zeke backing out not Eren throwing him out.. Also Eren is allowing Zeke to get a closure because he's also trying to break Zeke's will to fight so that he can't continue with euthanasia plan
yes, insanely powerful
Zeke is the one who ejected from the memory. He had the founder and Eren was taunting him with the fact that they had skipped the memory where Eren inherits the AT.
The basement twist was huge but this twist cemented AoT as one of the best things I’ve ever read/watched. This blew my mind when I read it in the manga for the first time. Also Grisha’s voice actor is hands down the best in the series. He gave an award winning performance 🤯
The performance was insane S tier
@You alright boi ? I mean we knew from day 1 that there was an outside world but we didn’t know the scale of it. I read the manga and we had to wait literal months between chapters with nothing to go off of so it was surprising to read when it dropped for the first time. With the Mikasa thing, I think it was a weird plot point that didn’t really need to be in the story imo. She’s badass without some BS power
If you rewatch Eren talking to Zeke about what Grisha did to the royal family, Eren says he was disgusted by Grisha’s actions. Eren was upset not that Grisha attacked the royal family, but that he was unable to.
17:34 To Morgan's point, the speed at which Eren resorts to violence is not by any means normal. He's had a normal, boring upbringing his entire life up until that point. No 10 (?) year old should be capable of that level of aggression unless they're some sort of psychopath or grew up in a violent, war-torn environment. For a variety of reasons, it took a full episode for the survey corps to get used to the idea of human on human violence back in season 3, yet it was second nature to Eren. Obviously Isayama was trying to convey that Eren's disposition is not something that was forced on him or inherited, and that he was always like this since birth, but Morgan is right to point out how disturbing it should be.
Agree. I understand that it was Mikasa or them and it was the only way but Eren killing two men specially at such young age and never losing a night's sleep over it says something.
@@paulsanchez7833 Not only that when his dad questions his actions he refers to the men as animals that needed to be slaughtered. The kid was disturbed...
I also love how Isayama intentionally places Eren's child-murdering-spree *before* he gets the attack titan. He was like that without any titan influence.
@@AvereeChaloupka Eren *is* the Attack Titan's influence; none of its inheritors would have pushed forward like they did without his memories, including himself.
but have you thought about why was he always like this since birth, being born in a peaceful non violent atmosphere he still turned out this way why? answer is Ymir. He's born out of Ymir's hatred n anger that she didn't show infront of anyone but was feeling inside all along. She was waiting for someone like him, this hatred of hers took 2k years to come on surface as Eren.. 💀💀
Last episode Sean, you thought Zeke had out smarted Eren.
After this episode, we learn Eren was playing past, present and future 4D path chess all at once and winning.
Also, Grisha's VA. 👏👏 👏
I don't really see Eren playing particularly good chess here. He just knows parts of how the future goes, so he tries to follow the path he thinks leads there. But he's still going to get outmaneuvered at times (like with Zeke or with Marley's surprise attack).
@@UnlistedAgain or when Sasha died
@@MRST0R yeaah like he knows what would happen in the future but not the detailed information but makes actions that leads him there to that future on how it will be kinda like being a blind person using Google maps to go to a certain destination
@@UnlistedAgain I think you got it wrong . Eren saw many future but in everyone at the end Paradise is destroyed and some deaths inevitable like Shasha that's why Eren was pissed . Eren saw if Mikasa confessed that day what would happen . In the end Eren made them hero and died but still Paradise destroyed . Eren was creating this new future by changing some events .He didn't take there titan powers so they could stop him and become hero . Eren was above everyone and in the end he made right decision not Alliance
Seriously, Morgan is the biggest brain reactor I’ve ever seen watch this show. Hands down. WAY smarter than me and Intead the manga years ago haha
No, just no. They got all wrong and dont unterstand the powers correctly
FilmBuff understands and remembers everything. Man is wild.
@@funisanartform Robiniyo too he's so underrated honestly
Sheera from Yaboyroshi
@@tito3996 no one was able to understand the power right away cause it's a bit confusing
Everyone had to take the time to process the information before being able to fully get how the powers work
remember when the owl told grisha to build a family inside the walls? that was no random suggestion,
this episode is implying eren staged his own birth 💀
Maybe. It's also possible Krueger just saw glimpses of Grisha's memories with a family within the wall.
@elheber yea, Eren made Krueger see those memories. His point still stands.
I'm glad morgan brought up Eren killing people as a child because it can sometimes be brushed off as anime exaggeration but this episode pretty much solidifies that no Eren is kinda psycho and this is just the kind of person he is, that wasn't just a one off weird thing for developing our otherwise noble hero, our protag is kinda psycho
Exactly lol. When his actions are pointed out it's always "well he did what he had to do" when that's not even the issue.
She was also so on point when she paralleled the two situations. Like yes, those gross human traffickers should have been dealt with.. but he was so brutal.
I’m convinced he wasn’t psycho, I think Titan Eren can go in the past and change things obviously, so he went back to make sure to save Mikasa.
@@kendrakey2495 But it can only do that to the wielders of the Attack Titan. Child Eren didn't have Titan powers when he stabbed two people to death. That was all him!
Eren was the child Grisha wanted in Liberio, and Zeke was the child he wanted in Paradis. What a tragic life did Grisha had, smh
I never thought of this before. Damn, Zeke could've had the childhood he dreamed of
True
"I'm not in danger, Zeke! I'm the danger! A guy opens his door and gets manipulated and you think that of me?! No! I'm the one who manipulates!"
- Eren "Heisenberg" Jaeger
Krueger wondered whose memories those were, so he didn't know the full picture of what the Attack Titan could do. The words he spoke were word-for-word what Grisha told Eren when injecting him, as Eren remembered in the episode he saved Armin and Mikasa from canon fire. Krueger could have been recalling Grisha's memories of explaining how to turn into a titan.
Wasn’t Kruger the one who explained the ‘secret’ of the attack titan to grisha in the first place? How could he not know? I just thought he was saying he didn’t know who’s menories those were because he doesn’t know who the future inheritors are, but he knows that there are future inheritors.
@@Ivy94F He didn't explain the secret. If he had, Eren would have known about it before losing Historia's hand. Instead, Kruger just alluded to it. Grisha would have to figure it out on his own as he was being tormented by visions sent by his son.
Remember when we were all confused when Krueger said Mikasa and Armin
LMAO the editor making the patreon AD
im dying xD
13:28 i like how this directly mirrors the stuff we see from king fritz the next episode
"Stand up my slave"
A cool thing that took me a few watches to get is that everything Grisha is seeing through the memories is from Eren’s point of view. So when Eren is staring at him he’s essentially seeing himself in 3rd person, and whenever Grisha could see and hear Zeke it was because Eren was looking at Zeke
Zeke Before this Episode: "F*ck Grisha!"
Zeke After this Episode: "Daddy?"
That's a nice one😂
He ruined his childhood and still forgave him 🥲
Eren can choose which memories he wants to show the past Attack Titan inheritors, that's why when Grisha was screaming at the end, he said "Why won't you show me everything? The wall being destroyed, & the day it happens. If Carla is safe." Eren is strategically sprinkling these memories to Grisha, manipulating him to do what Eren wants. When Eren kissed Historia's hand, that moment unlocked all the memories for him, that's why his whole demeanor changed. Initially he became depressed in the last episode of Season 3, while everyone was celebrating seeing the ocean for the first time, Eren was the only one that seemed off. Then in Season 4 he just outcasted himself. From the moment he kissed Historia's hand, he knew everything that was going to happen, but just not in detail (stuff like Sasha dying), he just knew what he had to do from that point on. This episode was so good, I was mindblown & glad I wasn't spoiled. Lol
this episode was a banger but that patreon ad read was hands down the best part of this video imo lmao
Eren's chains from the previous episode have a new meaning by the end of this one. He's a prisoner of fate unable to change the path he was on from the beginning.
Looking back, it's interesting how the episode that revealed Grisha killing the Reiss family is simply titled 'Sin' without alluding to any specific person.
Abe is an S tier editor 💯
Y'all are great, but Abe is the real mvp of this group 🤣👏👌
totally the one who keeps the ship floating. He's amazing
Holy crap I can't believe we're finally at THAT episode😭🙌 it's been a long time coming but I think we're all ready for their minds to be blown once again for the absolute insanity that is episode 21🤯
Eren is the reverse of king fritz. Fritz goes forward to influence future shifters while Eren goes back.
The details in this series is amazing.
Grisha and Frieda are there for no other reason than to act as vessels so two people, one years in the future and one dead for a century, can have a debate on the nature of sin and freedom.
The moment Isayama got prices for Season2 Episode 6 ''Warrior'', as one of the best written/produced plottwists ever - he already wrote the ''Memories of the future'' and ''From you 2000years ago'' scenery that changes the whole paradigm of storywriting. Aot started 2011 and there Grisha already watched at grown future Eren in Chapter1/Episode1.
That, for me, makes aot the best show to rewatch :D The whole 1-3 Saga are completely enchanted through all the foreshadows in like every episode and introductions to future Storycircles.
19:12 it's really Eren "sitting there", the only reason the Attack Titan can see the future it's Eren, he's able to move freely through the paths after he gets Ymir's power. it's not really the attack titan power if you stop to think about it, Eren just manipulated all the attack titan holders (his father for example) to get him on the right path, it's specifically Eren's power
Like Eren manipulated all the Attack Titan holders in the history... Wow
Yep it's kinda weird when you think about how marley never found the attack titan even though it was right under them, then how kruger chose a failed spy to go into the walls all by himself to retake the founding titan knowing that even marley couldn't.
it was actually the attack titan + royal blood power, cus just the attack titan couldnt do it, sadly Eren didnt liked to hold hands with Historia more often
Abe is awesome
I really love how Sean pointed out the similarities to GoT's Three-Eyed Raven subplot here.
Funnily enough IMHO AoT handled the whole "(literally) take a trip down memory lane / influence the past" arc better. It gave me what I wanted from GoT.
Hajime Isayama is a Huge GOT fan. He based AOT on GOT books as reference
You dont need to say IMHO lol, no one would think GoT handled it better, that shit was yikes.
@Parizal badass no one asked you.
@Parizal badass cry about it
Figuring out how Eren talked to his dad and how Grisha could see Zeke scrambles your brain, man. 😵💫
25:54 There it is!
So few things to point out.
- It is possible that Eren and Zeke spent years in Grisha´s memories.
- Grisha didn´t "see" Zeke himself, he saw at Eren´s point of view, thats why he began to look depressed. Becasuse he all ways knew that the future Attack Titan is watching his every move (this is why people theorize they spent years in memories).
There's no question that this episode is the greatest and most confusing of all. Still I have something to point out. 15:10 Every time Grisha was able to see Zeke it's because he was seeing from Eren's Point of view. Because Eren was seeing both his father and brother, Grisha could hug his older son. ;) Great reaction! :)
Beside the great plot twist, the flow of the events, the awesome music, and the details, Grisha's VA did a phenomenal job this ep. Like u can feel the pain and devastation from what he did and saw especially when he said "I killed them are u happy now". This scene makes me tear up every time. Loved ur reaction btw as always. Waiting for u to finish this so I can binge watch ur reaction again❤️
14:25 My guy just decided to ruin the moment😀
I'm with Morgan. Eren relishes in the extreme, and I feel like that's what she's trying to say about him. He in no way questions himself going full violent in any scenario regarding vengeance. Killing the traffickers wasn't something most of us lost sleep over. I think what shocked us was this literal kid who took pleasure in their deaths and didn't think one more thought about it. Idc who you are that's disturbing, especially for a child who's had a decent upbringing; and I think that was the point.
When he turned into a titan for the first time, once again, he was relishing in the destruction. When he was fighting Annie at the end of season 1, he said, "I will destroy everything." Correct me if I'm wrong on that or if it was a translation thing.
But yea, I definitely see her point that he's always been like this from the very start. From ep 1, y'all have told Eren he needs to chill. lol
Exactly. The decent upbringing part. It’s very subtle but it’s a huge clue to Eren’s innate horrific nature despite his environment. I see him as the inverse of Levi. Levi’s environment would design him to be violent yet he’s very much a caring and sensitive soul.
Abe deserves all the money just for this episode alone.
Well...now we know that the moment Eren kissed Historia's hand at the end of S3, the Eren we knew then basically died. Poor guy really got mindfucked in the most twisted way possible lol...no wonder he changed so drastically in his demeanor 😞
MAPPA really elevated the manga this episode! Everything from the voice acting (Grisha's VA went off!!) to the animation was just so beautifully done.
He got spoiled by that, that's why he's pissed
@@rfnugi LOL indeed he did
I think the craziest thing about the argument between Grisha and Frieda is that it's not even them arguing. It would be more accurate to say that its a throwdown between Eren years in the future through his father, and King Fritz a hundred years in the past through his descendant.
The time in this show is all sorts of crazy fucker.
14:07 I’m so glad you picked that up, literally don’t see anyone else mentioning that
Loved this ep.
Eren really said "The eff do you mean, daddy issues? Traumatize your father right back!" XD
I love that everyone thought that eren was playing Zekes game, but eren wasn't even playing the same game. Mans was out here playing 6D chess🤣
Also i love the voice actors, especially Eren's, but grishas va really shone this ep.
Last also. I have to remind you that the author of attack on Titan manga said that once the manga is over, he wants to start a spa with the blood and sweat of his fans. So you know the dude is insane and has more shit planned.
I like how y'all are some of the few reactors I've seen actually see Eren as a kid wasn't all there and didn't gloss over his actions.
welcome Sean to the "did Eren actually make this happen" club
it's the edits for me, god damn it i love this channel 😂😂😂😂
Morgan hit it on the head. Yes, when we saw Eren saving Mikasa we were like "fuck yeah", but when you think about it it's chilling to think a child around 8 just planned and killed humans just like that without hesitation. Eren was never a normal person, he's always had this in him since he was born. So yeah, that was foreshadowing by Isayama for this twist: Eren is actually a psycho.
Clarification eren does choose when past users sees memories. That is why whenever you see Grisha react in some way eren is always behind him. Grisha in those moments is seeing himself through erens eye's
14:26
This is literally the personification of a Marvel movie: "Let me ruin the gravitas in this scene to insert a pointless, unfunny fucking joke and ruin the moment because I need some attention."
Eren cannot see everything in future or past, Just a few things. And he only was capable to do that because Zeke took him to his dad memories
You dont understand it. It has nothing to do with zeke. Zeke only made it possible to CHANGE the past, seeing is no problem. And his future can be seen through grishas memorys of the memorys of a future eren. So he himself decides what he sees and what he doesnt
@@tito3996 But didnt Grisha say that eren SHOWED him his memories of the future? So those memories werent obtained by grisha. Also can you explain how seeing the past is no problem, and how zeke only makes it possible to change?
Memories of the Future. People refer to this episode as the "greatest twist" in any fiction or TV out here. 12 years worth of build up since Episode 1 all for it to pay-off flawlessly, and executed thematically perfect without fail.
I thought the greatest twist was Light being Kira
@@FlydingVent9296 how so. We knew Light was Kira in episode 1😂
@@FlydingVent9296 lmao ded
Thats a bit too mich dont you think? Lol
@@dorguinas tell me what twist is better than this
the bran/3EyedRaven episode lol. i swear the writer of AoT must've been a big fan of GoT because their is so many parallels.
On the "Grisha saw what Eren's going to do, i trust his opinion comment"; Grisha did tell Zeke to stop Eren but that was BEFORE he knew the walls had been destroyed and his wife was eaten alive. AFTER he learned all of that, Grisha still went ahead and gave Eren his titans(Attack and Founding he just stole) despite knowing Eren pushed him to kill the whole family, etc...
After he knew Carla was eaten by titan, he was like, "Fuck it, do what you want to do, Eren, avenge your mother and crush Marley to the ground."
He didn't know that his wife was dead or not, but he DID know that the walls were going to be broken. He's pleading with the royal family to use their power to stop that very thing from happening/continuing.
This is probably why Eren did not let Grisha know if Carla would survive or not. After what he just did to him, he knew that Grisha needed the shock of losing yet another loved one to Marley to go ahead and give him the titans.
I'm glad Emil is with them. I enjoy watching his reactions too plus he guides them well.
"We dont know what Eren is trying to do"
the OP: THE RUMBLING IS COMING!
wow, iwonder what is he gonna do! 🤣🤣
Grisha only can see Zeke when Eren is looking at him.
The Attack Titan can't change the past. The only reason it could do anything in that moment was Zeke enabled it by taking Eren on the walk down memory lane. The Attack Titan can just act independent of a linear timeline in that one moment because Grisha and Eren are both the same single entity-the Attack Titan. Eren didn't really change the past, the Attack Titan just did what it always did in a non-linear order from our perspective.
Also I don't think it is about "Eren accessing Grisha" or anything like that...more like the Attack Titan picks and chooses what future memories to reveal to the past inheritors of the Attack Titan. The way I understand it is essentially the Attack Titan is in itself a separate individual with its own intentions and it hijacks every inheritor to make them do what it needs them to do to reach its final goal....a goal Eren's iteration of the Attack Titan seems to be fulfilling...
Great reaction y'all, can't wait for you to get to the next episode. Y'all aren't ready for what's coming!
Just a wild theory. Eren woke up crying in the very first episode of AOT. Could he have seen all these events and the ones to come as a nightmare so he woke up crying? I don't know if its possible since he only got the titan form afterwards but the memories are all connected and present time Eren can traverse through the memories and he showed those memories to the past Eren. 🤔🤔
eren only had the power to manipulate grisha because he got to the paths with zeke and was allowed into those memories, the manipulation aspect isnt something consistent across all attack titans
The child Eren who killed those guys was not child Eren, that was Titan Eren controlling him to save Mikasa
Morgan has a psychic third eye there's no other explanation
At the end of season 3 where Eren kisses Historia's hand, a couple minutes before that he says to Armin "How can anyone know the future?". Lmao Isayama had this whole thing planned out and was probably just giggling to himself writing it.
For me personally, I didn't think the Attack Titan can go back and change history. It's just that they have access to memories of the past and the future, which gives them so much information on what to do. However, in this episode, we should remember that the place they are currently in is the place where all paths converge. Past, present, and future kind of connect to that same place. Eren doesn't have that power without the royal blood involved. Attack Titans having access to future owners' memories combined with Eren being in a place where all paths converge (including Eren's and Grisha's) made it possible for him to influence Grisha in that time.
Eren: "Take the shot, Grisha. Kill the child."
Well, absolute power can corrupt absolutely, but if power is not used to protect the people, it is also useless. Goes both ways there King Fritz.
The Reiner reveal plot twist from Season 2 looks kinda cute now, doesn't it? We all thought that was the craziest shit ever, but this is so much bigger. The whole show started because Eren wanted to do a global genocide to free the Eldians on the island. If Eren didn't push his dad to steal the Founding Titan, the Marleyans wouldn't have sent the Warriors, and Eren's mom wouldn't have been killed, and Eren probably wouldn't have grown up to be someone capable of doing a global genocide. It's a full circle.
Biggest twist of all was how smooth Sean's voice was for that patreon ad read. Hot damn 🥵
That Patreon ad read was… incredible. 😂
Eren is that one villain whose backstory and reasoning for why he's doing what he's doing is so good, it'll trick you into thinking he's the main hero.
He is a hero you just choose to look at him as a villain
@@bruhhh8326 no hero kills billions of children my dude
@@V_i_vi_an didn’t the alliance do the same thing but you guys call them hero so stfu
@@bruhhh8326 no hero's doing genocide. I already accepted that eren made up his mind to be the "bad guy" but there's still mofos thinking he's still the "hero".
This entire show has been a villain origin story
I think Eren is controlling what Grisha and to some extent Kruger sees so that no one does anything drastic to change. The story has to unfold exactly this way to get to the ending. I think present Eren can see glimpses of the future but again future Eren is controlling it.
I don't see it that way. IMHO, all that Eren knew about the future is what Grisha talked about at the church. Neither Eren nor any other Attack Titan can see their own future. They can only see memories of their successors. Season 3 Eren only saw this church scene through Grisha's eyes, and S1 Grisha saw parts of that church scene through S4 Eren's eyes (thanks to Zeke's royal blood memory shenanigans).
22:30 im not sure if the bast attack titans knew about the ability of changing memories bcs they probably were controlled by eren
crouger said after mentioning armin and mikasa that he didn't knew the person that send this memory
He didn't know whose memories they were. Personally I think it's actually Grisha's memory from when he was about to inject Eren and telling him how to transform to save Armin and Mikasa. Literally word for word what Grisha said in S1 when Eren first transformed on purpose. And who knows, maybe that Grisha had already seen memories of Eren needing to transform to save Armin and Mikasa.
Eren, the king of gaslighting.
dude on top left looks like a pokemon professor
Honestly this whole thing feels beyond good guys and bad guys.
yeah thats exactly it.
Emil came thru!! Excellent explanation bud! And Abe saving the day in the start had me rolling! Lmao 😂
Season 4 is my favorite because it’s a point where there isn’t a “bad guy”. It’s all about your perspective. Eren may seem like the bad guy to us now, but considering what he’s doing it for…how bad is he…
Pretty bad.
@@artbarge713 meh, only as bad as everyone else in the world trying to attack them. It’s kill or be killed
@@AshleyGarcia-ck2ki I mean, Eren intentionally caused the declaration, then terrorist attacked it. He is the root of all their current problems.
@@artbarge713 How? Before Eren ever acted the Eldian sympathizers were gassing each other up to free the Eldians of the world by killing the hateful devils of Paradis. The hateful devils that had no idea what was going on or that there was a world outside their walls. Willy Tybur gathered all nations to declare war on Paradis without having clear knowledge that Eren was skulking in the background. Even the attack on Paradis Island was entirely selfish. The rest of the world was catching up with their anti Titan weapons and Marley needed the Founding Titan and Paradis's resources to keep their war machine going.
Eren is responsible for a lot. A lot a lot. But the nations of the world earned Paradis's hatred. You can't hold those people responsible for the sins of their grandfather's, grandfather's, grandfather's, grandfathers.
@@artbarge713 except they have literally punished the island way more than necessary and are trying to get rude of them?? Sooooo again, who’s the villain. Are you watching the show w your eyes closed
Goated editer btw
Eren, I feel, is the embodiment of the attack titan and that's why he holds so much power.
12:18 Idk if im mistaken but didn't Grisha say "All these memories had been guiding US to this moment"? Not me? I'm just askin 😅
Diamn are they binging all the ep in one sitting
They got it wrong af, eren can only communicate with grisha. Back and forwards. AND eren can controll what he sends to grisha. Grisha cried about why eren didnt show him the future of his wife
Not only Grisha, Eren simply manipulates every Attack Titan's successors to accomplish his plan (Kruger and his predecessors), because he's the only Attack Titan's shifter who has the power of Founding Titan, hence why he could easily put his will to them like, "We keep moving forward. Even if we die. Even after death."
Eren can't even have 2 way communication with Grisha. He can only send one way messages, like standing in front of a mirror and ordering him to fight. It was only because Zeke played a movie of Grisha's memories that they were able to communicate with each other.
Eren was and always has been a monster
This is, IMO, the best episode of AoT and quite possibly the best twist in the history of fiction. The build up and execution was flawless.
Eren is not a good guy or a bad guy he is a force of Nature He is a gaurdian angle to his friends and a Devil for his enemies.
Holy shit this really is like the Three-Eyed Raven. Eren just Hodor'd his dad.
This is exactly what I've always been thinking!
@@pat_1308 hold the door = kill the Reis family
emil is unbearable. He represents majority of how the fandom thinks.
Hey Sean, I've always wondered what song you use for the intro?
The founding titans power made eren's attack titan the strongest attack titan...he could manipulate the past users of the attack titan because of the founding titans power
I'm so glad I can finally say this and it not be a spoiler, Thank you for being the only reaction channel to realize Eren was a fucked up kid and a murderer from the beginning instead of looking at the earlier moments of the show with rose tinted lenses. Eren is a freaking sociopath, and I am so happy that I'm finally not the only one who already knew Eren was gonna jump to genocide from the start (I mean c'mon, he has basically chosen violence as the immediate solution to pretty much everything)
Eren ne peut pas voir son futur mais il peut envoyer ses souvenirs dans le passé. Mais il a les souvenirs de son père. Si dans le futur il envoie ses souvenir à son père que son son lui du passé à accès aux souvenirs de son père qui lui a les souvenirs du futur d'eren alors eren peut voir son futur dans les souvenirs de son prédécesseur 🤯
What a group!
This plot twist is on Par with stranger things 4 plot twist all in one year
What a episode!
I never understood why they didn't show Eren's thoughts right after he ended up killing a whole bunch of people when he fought Annie inside wall Sheena, i didn't read the manga so i don't know if they are gonna touch on that, but i find it strange that no scene was made showing Eren feeling conflicted or something
Part of it I suspect is because Eren is not fully conscious in his titan form until he fights Reiner halfway through season 2. He's mostly in a blind rage up until that point. The "reification of mankind's rage" as it was once eloquently put by Mikasa.
It's gonna be in the final episode i think (according to manga)
@@ICavalcadeI I'm talking about after the fight, and if you rewatch it you can see that he is conscious during a good chunk of the fight
Probably has to do something with him saying “I’ll destroy the world”
@@gokay6476 But i think it's still off putting to the audience seeing him and his friends not mentioning or thinking about it when it happened, Mikasa talked to Eren when he attacked Marley but it wasn't the first time he killed innocents, as if Isayama decided to not touch on that and ignore for a moment without giving a justification why
I’m not gone say too much but damn Morgan is good👀
Back then eren is the child he most wanted, then later zeke is the most child he wanted
Are the korra videos coming back
funny you should ask!
Its been Eren All Along
aye 420 blaze it
lol
In all seriousness this fucking episode has some of the best voice acting👌
Grisha, son of Eren