You have to feel for Land Rover Discovery owners!

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  • Опубликовано: 28 янв 2025

Комментарии • 136

  • @joncoulthard9028
    @joncoulthard9028 Месяц назад +36

    I'm laughing about the LR comments. In 76 I served an apprenticeship in a rural village garage. We had so much work as a result of how poor these things were. I learnt to weld replacing rotted out rear crossmembers on 5 year old series 2a's. As my life progressed in the motor trade I had so many customers who were brand faithful to LR who had horrendous experiences. Fractured diff casings on Discoveries, huge MOT repairs on Range Rovers then the new models all with horror stories with poor engineering but great styling! I spent a lot of time in Kenya where 4wd vehicles have to work. They're all Toyota's. Nuff said ha ha!

  • @trevorjarvis3021
    @trevorjarvis3021 Месяц назад +7

    Excellent video James - you put so much effort into preparing your cars, they are a total credit and respect to you! As for the Land Rover with the new engine, their only option is to keep it and run it into the ground, they will never be able to “recover” any of the expenses by trading it in.

  • @stuartjomes7289
    @stuartjomes7289 Месяц назад +7

    Merry Christmas to you and Mrs Chops ....Another fantastic video.😊

  • @charliemansonUK
    @charliemansonUK Месяц назад +3

    I bought a TopDon 1200 well over a year ago after seeing you use it.
    I bought the small one as my bike had a random power drain and never had to charge it for almost a year.
    One morningbmy mate found he'd left the interior of his 6.5 ltr Cummins diesel Dodge Ram and the little TopDon 1200 got it going first time!
    Awesome bits of kit.

    • @EcoHamletsUK
      @EcoHamletsUK Месяц назад

      I got a 1200 too. Great for starting my Corsa, but even better for charging torches and running LED lights during a few days without power last weekend. It could have charged my phone too if we'd had a signal!

  • @paulmoore6345
    @paulmoore6345 Месяц назад +7

    Alfa has come out lovely

  • @williamreese7528
    @williamreese7528 Месяц назад +10

    The lot looks really good with the gravel. Should help keep the cars a little cleaner. Presents them better to your customers too.

  • @muffindell
    @muffindell Месяц назад +14

    It's actually amazing that Land rover still exists, I've never heard of a reliable one or one that doesn't leak oil

    • @ChopsGarage
      @ChopsGarage  Месяц назад

      Seems so although I'm at 145k on my 2006 rangie

    • @johnhutchinson8950
      @johnhutchinson8950 Месяц назад +4

      They say that 90% of original LandRovers ever built are still on the road. The other 10% made it home.......
      Gives a whole new meaning to "suit enthusiast", eh?

    • @muffindell
      @muffindell Месяц назад

      @@johnhutchinson8950 the original ones were simple and that's the key to all the problems, LandRover cannot build a modern, reliable and complex car, it can be done just look at the Toyota LandCruiser

    • @pirikaty
      @pirikaty Месяц назад

      My Freelander. 2.2 sd4 is the best car I have ever owned - probably because LR didnt make the engine and I'm one of those strange people who 'over service' their vehichles

    • @OM617a
      @OM617a Месяц назад +1

      Will stick with my 35 year old landcruiser, 300k miles and counting.

  • @gwizz9175
    @gwizz9175 Месяц назад +4

    I feel sorry for anyone stuck with a Discovery Sport or Evoque diesel, I have a late model Freelander 2 with the fantastic 2.2 diesel (PSA /Ford engine) I would have considered changing it for a DS but fortunately have done plenty of reading about their issues and now won't consider one at any price, they really are a ticking time bomb.

    • @PaulCopp
      @PaulCopp Месяц назад

      I swapped my FL2 at 14 years old and 140,000 miles for a 3 year old Discovery Sport. TBF I loved the car, great design, really comfortable and smooth to drive. After three years of ownership, I sold it and have now found I may have had a lucky escape, having spotted the comments on RUclips. Oil dilution, timing chains etc. A real shame as my experience was great and it is a genuinely nice car.

  • @darrenwilson8042
    @darrenwilson8042 Месяц назад +3

    That Owatrol gives such good results I almost wish I had some faded black plastics myself lol

  • @chelseaboyuk75
    @chelseaboyuk75 Месяц назад +1

    Cheers chops and merry Christmas

  • @henrykravitz468
    @henrykravitz468 Месяц назад

    Excellent video, James. You and CarUK show how much effort you put into preparing your cars, which is a total credit to you. With the Land Rover wouldn't it be best for them to keep it as they won't get the money back, they put in with the new engine. Have a great week James.

  • @zzhughesd
    @zzhughesd Месяц назад +3

    Choppy, so many options on Poly Carb headlight polish ups, I used to do 1 hour 30 mins a side 3 grits, 1 Trizact 3000 and 1 headlight compound. Instead go over with Metal Polish for about 3 mins and 90% seam to polish up lovely and last 2-6 months, So I'm now a metal headlight polisher from a 5+ stepper saving 27 mins a headlight , odd

  • @DanielGallivan-qt3fz
    @DanielGallivan-qt3fz Месяц назад

    Great video James, this is you doing what you do best. Making me want to travel half way across the country to buy cars that I wouldn't even consider buying normally. That mito looks cracking and great value. There's another channel I watch who shall remain. Nameless, I love watching their channel, but not once have they had a car where I think yep, I'd buy that, even though they do the more premium german brands. Your cars just have such great appeal. You were brave bidding on that Land rover, that would scare me to death. Had a similar story on my channel with a guy that traded in an ecoboost, £3500 on a new engine, the car had 115k miles, but the engine had only done 9k miles and he traded it in for £800 because he was scared to death of it going wrong again.

  • @johnpritchard2772
    @johnpritchard2772 Месяц назад

    Hello James, with you having mentioned that the car keys had gone missing, and you had accidently thrown them away with the cardboard into the bin, that was very good to have your friend Pete with you help find them!! Another interesting and varied content to your video - so enjoy them, oh, LR - I like the looks but just keep away from them, I could not afford the repair and serving bills!! Best wishes from Lincolnshire

  • @CF21LDB
    @CF21LDB Месяц назад +3

    Glad you liked the card buddy. Hopefully you get to meet Happy Go Larry oops I mean Blu in person next year lol

  • @rogermurphy1154
    @rogermurphy1154 Месяц назад +6

    Had an XF, never had my hand out of my pocket, JLR stuff made out of wet pasta

  • @notmanynamesleft
    @notmanynamesleft Месяц назад +12

    £10k for an engine that's shite in the first place for an 8 year old wagon wtf! That's like a brand new small car 🤔 you could get an M57 conversion for way less and actually have something decent at the end of it.

  • @thebrowns5337
    @thebrowns5337 Месяц назад +8

    No car engine is without risk of fault but I don't understand why modern engineers tuck service parts deep in the engine or why they forget simple things like rubber belts don't like oil.
    In theory we should be getting better and better at design and engineering, and in most cases we are, yet car makers buck this trend. Is it profiteering or are they really just challenged?

    • @steveworth544
      @steveworth544 Месяц назад +2

      Your right and if you think back to cars of 15+ years ago you expected at least 150K miles from an engine and sometimes much more. How can it be "green" to produce self destructing cars?

    • @ChopsGarage
      @ChopsGarage  Месяц назад +2

      I think emissions has done it

    • @oceandrive7283
      @oceandrive7283 Месяц назад +1

      Because they're now designed with emissions and efficiency at the very forefront. They're fantastic when new and cover thoses briefs very well but, that comes at the expense of more systems to go wrong and long term reliability isn't there.
      As long as it makes it through the 3 year warranty period, JLR don't care after that.

  • @davidridge5287
    @davidridge5287 Месяц назад +15

    It's frankly quite staggering that they've never been able to produce a product that's reliable ever since the brand became so desirable from the launch of the original Disco all those years ago. If it was a Japanese brand, they'd have engineered solutions within months. I'm probably one of millions who loves the way they look, generally, but wouldn't touch one with a bargepole. Engines, suspensions, electronics, depreciation.... All as grim as it gets, for a massive premium 🤪🤨🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @thebrowns5337
      @thebrowns5337 Месяц назад +2

      You forgot the ease of which they are stolen. Range Rovers can't even be insured in some parts of the UK.

    • @OM617a
      @OM617a Месяц назад

      Get the equivalent Toyota, much better vehicles and better looking in my opinion. Only issue is the cost to buy, they barely depreciate.

  • @johnneutralobserver5944
    @johnneutralobserver5944 Месяц назад

    Fantastically informative site. 👍

  • @johnmackenzie7487
    @johnmackenzie7487 Месяц назад +4

    Doesn't post to the Scottish Highlands ! How often I get that, and it doesn't mean post on the Royal mail sense of the words, it means some greedy delivery company that wants to charge the sender extra, when the Royal Mail can do anywhere for the same price.

    • @alexrobinson2281
      @alexrobinson2281 Месяц назад

      Well said John , Royal Mail is a lifeline up here , usually arrives the next day , local couriers are good but can only delivery what arrives at Inverness , it’s the first courier from the start that’s the problem

  • @roystonvehicles9129
    @roystonvehicles9129 Месяц назад

    Good buy, if it would have come off with a new engine bud, just don't be tempted at say 80 to 90k without one, that's bang on when they go. Had a xe jag in and you could hear the chain at 90k,cheap tax and 60 mpg tho, my son ran it for a year, it was getting klankey tho at the end, sold it on e Bay as needing a chain, a guy with a little garage bought it.

  • @scotspie501douglas7
    @scotspie501douglas7 Месяц назад

    whats the pressure washer reel in the corner

  • @GaryJWright
    @GaryJWright Месяц назад +31

    ingenium engine should be called in-the-bin-ium engine

    • @slowery43
      @slowery43 Месяц назад

      are you a 11 year old who thinks they're hilarious? Good lord give up on your comedy dreams Princess

    • @Tunners26
      @Tunners26 Месяц назад

      Rebrand - Land Rover revoque and recovery! 😂😂

  • @MarkBailey-hn7uv
    @MarkBailey-hn7uv Месяц назад

    What do JLR say about these engines , are they updating and or improving them?

  • @bluefish2303
    @bluefish2303 Месяц назад

    That Alfa is a gorgeous looking car ❤ Antara also looks well 👍

  • @bigdude8470
    @bigdude8470 Месяц назад

    It’s crazy how a difference in light depending on where you live …. At 4 in Huddersfield it’s pitch black!!

  • @alastairkeith8553
    @alastairkeith8553 Месяц назад

    I’ve had a Disco Sport since new - 2017 at 70k - no significant issues and it’s been a great car - the key is to service them annually at 8k miles. The stipulated 2year 21k service is just too much for a hard working diesel that suffers from diesel dilution of the engine oil. I do appreciate people have had failures and I always listen for a potential rattle at start up.

    • @ChopsGarage
      @ChopsGarage  Месяц назад

      Makes sense

    • @charlesoakley5210
      @charlesoakley5210 Месяц назад

      They never made a discovery sport back then

    • @alastairkeith8553
      @alastairkeith8553 Месяц назад

      @@charlesoakley5210 lol - corrected typo to 2017. In 2007 I had a Freelander 2 which did 115k faultless miles other than a new clutch and consumables. The key is regular annual servicing at 8k miles max

    • @byronmills5952
      @byronmills5952 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@charlesoakley5210Disco Sport dates from 2014 to present day.

  • @cardealerpro
    @cardealerpro Месяц назад

    Cracking video mate

  • @AshlynnCairns
    @AshlynnCairns Месяц назад +24

    You just keep getting better. Can’t wait for the next drop!

  • @patrickyorke3028
    @patrickyorke3028 Месяц назад

    Great vid. Thanks. What's the story with the Gold Ital?

  • @MariaMadden-d1d
    @MariaMadden-d1d Месяц назад

    wow, that alfa is popping!! lovely car!!

  • @dghdavies
    @dghdavies Месяц назад

    What's up with the Morris Ital? Was it supplied by Hoddesdon Motors?

  • @martinwright5853
    @martinwright5853 Месяц назад

    Hi James, could you add that bumper gel look next time please.
    It looks fantastic

  • @garymorris801
    @garymorris801 Месяц назад +1

    Great video mate again well done them engines are really bad

  • @Mrunknown223-q9x
    @Mrunknown223-q9x Месяц назад

    Saw 2015 66,000k Range Rover go though our local auction with a £11,000 new engine in it ,sold for £11k ! Only 6k on new engine !

  • @liamegan4303
    @liamegan4303 Месяц назад

    Hello from Ireland, James. Did you get, that Alfa off, Joe? Nice Car 🚗 👌. Those Meriva's are quite nice, actually lol. Wicked video, James lol. 🙏🙏👌👏👏👏👏👏

  • @jamesbarran-scott437
    @jamesbarran-scott437 Месяц назад +13

    They’re doing quite well if they’ve only put 1 engine in it so far 😂

    • @mikeb7050
      @mikeb7050 Месяц назад

      You cranked that one didn’t you! 🤣

  • @roystonvehicles9129
    @roystonvehicles9129 Месяц назад +1

    Great video

  • @petewatson4093
    @petewatson4093 Месяц назад

    £10k.... painful 😮
    Turnbridge Pete

  • @TrevorBuick
    @TrevorBuick Месяц назад

    What's happening with the Red XK8 James?

  • @paramedicchrisbookseries
    @paramedicchrisbookseries Месяц назад

    Going from strength to strength

  • @paulspeller968
    @paulspeller968 Месяц назад

    dam son you need a cab heater 🤣🤣🤣 nice battery issue like you say that could easy catch one out if your not carful . gave up the mobile malarkey years ago factory based now . however this morning had a shakedown car go down and i got lumbered going to look at it funny how they always seem to “limp” it to the local garage so they were sitting drinking coffee will i was looking at the car no poxy coat and it was freezing 🥶 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Brian-nf6bt
    @Brian-nf6bt Месяц назад +6

    Well if you spend 10 grand on a new engine you have to run that car,no good trying to PX it and get some or most of that 10 grand back.

    • @watchanything-c7r
      @watchanything-c7r Месяц назад

      ye get some dim idiots that think they going to get close to what they paid to fix it if they didnt fix it then it be worth scrap 🤣 thats like selling a car that only worth £2k and someone saying i want £2700 because i paid a garage to fix my car at cost of £700 as ive seen a few adverts where they come out with i had to spend blah blah well if you didnt spend blah blah your car worth next to nothing 🤣

  • @jamesm90
    @jamesm90 Месяц назад

    JLR chharge 20k for an ingenium, 10k is independent garage price.

  • @alanmckeown5377
    @alanmckeown5377 Месяц назад

    Sounds like your still cutting those new teeth in mate wee alfa looks fantastic 👌🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿😁

  • @eskimojulie
    @eskimojulie Месяц назад +4

    Wow that makes me feel lucky , Iv'e been running a 2.7 tdv6 that's just turned 20 years old and paid less than 10K for it over 8 years ago with no what I would call major problems 🤞and she has just gone through another MOT 😀.

    • @skylarkfieldfarm
      @skylarkfieldfarm Месяц назад

      My disco 3 has done 140k miles and has been great

  • @johndawson8806
    @johndawson8806 Месяц назад

    should have stuck to the original price chops landrover nightmare

  • @chiefrocka8604
    @chiefrocka8604 Месяц назад +1

    You could spend £20k on 2 lr engines but the car is expected to have a working engine regardless so expecting to claw a huge chunk of money back is ludicrous off a new buyer .
    Insurance companies won’t pay out 10 grand more because it’s got a new dealer fitted donky and it gets stuffed 2 weeks later
    Ludicrous it’s worth what it’s worth and such a huge amount is never coming back , I’d of said a grand over book as a gooodwill gesture as long as it’s got a invoice for £10k

    • @ChopsGarage
      @ChopsGarage  Месяц назад

      Yep it's not coming back to them

  • @STEVIEBHOY
    @STEVIEBHOY Месяц назад

    I'm considering buying an Alfa Romeo Giulietta Cloverleaf James, any pointers?

    • @ChopsGarage
      @ChopsGarage  Месяц назад +1

      They need good histories. Ideally from specialist

    • @johnhutchinson8950
      @johnhutchinson8950 Месяц назад +1

      If you can see the road through the floor..........it may have a rust problem !

    • @STEVIEBHOY
      @STEVIEBHOY Месяц назад

      @@johnhutchinson8950 funnily enough Fred Flintstone is listed as a previous owner 😂👍

  • @tomthompson7400
    @tomthompson7400 Месяц назад +1

    thats how land rovers are , or if its an evoque folk tell you they have a range rover ,,,, they are pure garbage , how the sales team keep selling them without customers returning and punching them in the throat I dont know, Its always the nice folk , the decent folk who seem to get caught with them too , I fix them for a living and some days I could weep for the folk who bought them.

  • @WigwamWalsall
    @WigwamWalsall Месяц назад

    Traded In my Disc Sport 66 reg on 122k miles a few weeks ago, dealer paid me £6k, new chain etc fitted at 110k miles @ £2;700. Great spec luxury car, but it’s essential to change the oil every 12/15k miles, a cheap DIY job for under £100. Look after them and they are fine, what car is void of problems? I blame LandRover dealers for not being honest, 21k service schedule is nonsense.

    • @ChopsGarage
      @ChopsGarage  Месяц назад

      I agree I think that's the thing , 2yr service mad

  • @stephenrichards5386
    @stephenrichards5386 Месяц назад

    That's me James. I've lost my garage keys. I think I threw in the recycling with a cardboard box I was clearing at the time. Lost for ever. It's old age mate

  • @smoothmicra
    @smoothmicra Месяц назад +1

    Ah, Land Rover quality and excellent customer service. They should think about introducing it for the first time... 🙄

  • @alanw8311
    @alanw8311 Месяц назад

    What's the point of timing chains if you have to replace it at 88,000 miles when timing belts are good for 100,000 and are far easier and cheaper to change !

  • @ingopaul67
    @ingopaul67 Месяц назад

    Ingenium, JLR taking short term profit while destroying used car values and the company in the long term. So many problems, timing chains, turbos, EGR/oil dilution. A friend was quoted £17k by JLR for a new engine, eventually had it repaired by a specialist for £8k. JLR very reluctant to take responsibility and contribute to the cost.

  • @williamfence566
    @williamfence566 Месяц назад

    There's enough publicity around to avoid problem vehicles. JLR ingenium , Stellantis Pure tech and Ford Ecoboom . Chops Garage and Car Pitch onto a good thing selling older proven stuff.

    • @MrNikoid
      @MrNikoid Месяц назад

      Agreed. People just need to do their homework but they don't because they are under the illusion JLR are a premium brand and will play fair when things go wrong.

  • @yeshua-Political-Party
    @yeshua-Political-Party Месяц назад

    🕊️🙏🏿🕊️

  • @mikX4
    @mikX4 Месяц назад +3

    Alfas are gorgeous, just like an Italian suit :)

  • @Finglesham
    @Finglesham Месяц назад

    If an owner spent £10 K on a new engine you should keep it until it is worn out. You never, ever, get your money back selling a car on for anything.

  • @fire44x
    @fire44x Месяц назад

    Landys with 2.0 engines still make good money this way rr velor 134k was 12k

  • @steve8039
    @steve8039 Месяц назад

    Well, modern Landrovers are shite, that's for sure. Still got my 2016 Defender (Puma 2.2). Would never touch anything newer. I used to own a Disco3 (great vehicle), but moved that on a long while ago. We got my wife a Disco4, but again the diesel has a bad reputation for snapping cranks etc, so we got a Japanese import 5L V8. Yes, chains were very rattly and there's known issues with the cooling system, so I fixed all that myself. It was a big job, but that engine is bloody lovely. Simple, no turbo or Euro shite. It's how a car should be.

  • @mikerittmanreborn4955
    @mikerittmanreborn4955 Месяц назад

    Pete is a power ranger

  • @MrRedfreds
    @MrRedfreds Месяц назад +5

    New engine 10k, just keep the car

    • @watchanything-c7r
      @watchanything-c7r Месяц назад +1

      probably last another 3yr or so lol

    • @primafacie6442
      @primafacie6442 Месяц назад

      They likely want rid after the warranty and before it goes pop again.

  • @colinhandy5998
    @colinhandy5998 Месяц назад

    The antara is cheap. My neighbours just paid 6k for 1 on a 62. And it's shite compared to urs. Boost leaks fucked brake calliper. Gotta be able to get at least 5k. Especially down south

  • @brianridley1102
    @brianridley1102 Месяц назад

    Customer should sell that car privately

  • @chrisardern4594
    @chrisardern4594 Месяц назад

    Unfortunately a car of that sort is definitely not a investment. 10k ouch.

  • @AllanT-nu4rw
    @AllanT-nu4rw Месяц назад

    BL the plughole of despair, JLR,,,,hold my beer.

  • @derekfleming3095
    @derekfleming3095 Месяц назад +3

    Those engines are abysmal
    So many people won’t touch them and prices offered for them are depressingly low if you’re the seller

  • @Brian-om2hh
    @Brian-om2hh Месяц назад +11

    Just my personal opinion, but I'd avoid buying anything with Land Rover or Range Rover badges on it. The older they are, the deeper your pockets need to be.

    • @slowery43
      @slowery43 Месяц назад +1

      nobody asked for your opinion, go back and read the comments... you're anything but a credible expert on car purchasing who's opinion shold be considered in any way

    • @keithposter5543
      @keithposter5543 Месяц назад

      @@slowery43 Ouch

  • @mikedavies4263
    @mikedavies4263 Месяц назад

    The engine in a range rover vouge is the sd engine better

  • @andysalter4473
    @andysalter4473 Месяц назад +3

    Vauxhall Antara, horrible drive.

    • @StephenRandall-x6s
      @StephenRandall-x6s Месяц назад +1

      Brave to retail a Vaux.Antara,engine oil leaks(same engine as in Chev.Captiva),very fuel thirsty especially 4wd auto models.At the dealers where i worked Motability stopped supplying them because customers could not afford the fuel costs!

    • @jontallon73
      @jontallon73 Месяц назад +1

      They don't call them Craptiva for nothing.

  • @chrisaris8756
    @chrisaris8756 Месяц назад

    Had several Jags with the Ingenium and they have been fine. It seems that Land Rover have the lion’s share of the problems. Talking to an ex service manager (before the LBGTSW£ crowd at Jaguar made him redundant) reckoned it was down to the stupidly long oil change intervals. The 6 cylinder Ingenium is excellent

    • @neilbucknell9564
      @neilbucknell9564 Месяц назад

      As the owner of a 63k mile Disco Sport, with no problems I would mention that there's an oil warning message advising an oil change that comes on about every 10k miles that I'd guess many ignore. It would be better if this was a recommended oil change interval. BTW - the car's a peach!

  • @davidjenkins6453
    @davidjenkins6453 Месяц назад

    Click bait

  • @stephenlaw9827
    @stephenlaw9827 Месяц назад

    JLR make and sell crap.

  • @alexc9584
    @alexc9584 Месяц назад

    You have to feel for Land Rover Discovery owners: No you don't. If you're stupid enough to buy one then you get all that comes with it (which is very well and widely publicised)!

    • @ChopsGarage
      @ChopsGarage  Месяц назад

      Plenty of people buy what they like

    • @johnhutchinson8950
      @johnhutchinson8950 Месяц назад

      @@ChopsGarage Very true. I remember a hideous Ssangyong people mover from years ago (Stavic?) which was ugly as hell and got universally panned in many reviews (scoring usually 0 or 1 out of 5). People still bought them.....lol

  • @slowery43
    @slowery43 Месяц назад +4

    Silly/ridiculous title - I've never felt bad for any decisions others make, couldn't care any less how others decide to spent their time or money it is of zero concern or judgment of mine

    • @ChopsGarage
      @ChopsGarage  Месяц назад +15

      Well you watched so did it job

    • @peteski5201
      @peteski5201 Месяц назад

      And yet you comment 😂 tit

  • @bigdude8470
    @bigdude8470 Месяц назад

    It’s crazy how a difference in light depending on where you live …. At 4 in Huddersfield it’s pitch black!!