Is there a summary of the arguments and evidence presented? Not to be offensive, but I'd like a little more background before I plop down and watch an hour long video I saw pop up on a youtube ad.
Professor Haim Shore made a summary revealing a few of the findings presented on his blog here: haimshore.blog/2020/01/17/linkage-between-torah-first-verse-and-pi-some-of-evrons-findings/
Oren Evron has outdone himself again. Truly unbelievable work to show more indisputable proofs of the divinity of the holy Torah. Surely there will be haters that already have a bias from their atheistic predisposition, but not a single one will actually provide a valid argument that negates the countless facts provided in this (and the other) video that Oren so perfectly executed. As a further chazak u'baruch, i want to say that the translation to English was superbly executed and verbalized by the speaker. People will never realize the amount of work and efforts that are put into translating the holy Torah into another language, and thereby communicating it. As someone who deals with this daily, I can assure you it requires an enormous amount of siyata d'shamay (divine assistance) similar to the one the Creator gave Oren to find these facts in the first place--the point being is that HaShem wants any unbiased mathematical minded person that’s looking for the truth to watch this video a few times (you're going to need to in order to truly absorb the true genius of it all). WATCH, ENJOY, Thank HaShem and His servant Oren for giving you the merit to watch and understand it (or at least most of it for someone like me :) )
Thank you very much for your comment! Reading through your comment shows that you know what you are talking about. The amount of efforts and work and funding needed for such a project to take place is very substantial, and I know how important these mathematical facts are. In fact these findings are as said in the video: just the tip of the iceberg of what is already known to me... and in the process I learned oh so much about things I recognize from outside without knowing them, needing to learn to go through a vast amount of material... What about all the unknowns? it is incredible!!! So much to learn..!!! Thank you again Rabbi Yaron! Shabbat Shalom
Thank you very much for your comment! The video is for everyone not just Jewish people, and I am very happy to read your comment as most people benefiting either don'y comment or don't have RUclips accounts and those who just.. hate.. comment all the time lol So your comment helps the community and strengthen the light in the darkness, Thank you very much! May you be blessed with all the goodness, kindness, prosperity and self fulfillment possible! Oren
ברוכים תהיו בע"ה תודה רבה לך, נכון, מי שרוצה לבחור בטוב, יכול להתבונן בעובדות מתמטיות ולהפנים ומי שרוצה ההפך - זה לא משנה מה הוא יראה הוא ימשיך בשלו, הרצון מעל השכל שבת שלום,
חזק וברוך אורן!!יפה מאוד על ההשקעה והטירחה סרטון מעניין ביותר עם הוכחות נפלאות שהופק בצורה פשוט מושלמת כמו ההוכחות שבו!! ישר כח גדול אבל גם מבלי כל ההוכחות המתמטיות האלה ניתן להוכיח שהתורה היא אלוקית עם הוכחות פשוטות כמו הסיבוב המינימלי של כדור הארץ סביב הירח שמוכח בגמרא בדיוק של 6 ספרות אחרי הנקודה,מספר הכוכבים בגלקסיה,ויטמין K שאחרי על כרישת הדם שיש יום אחד בחיי הגבר שיש אקסטרה 20 אחוז ממנו וזה ביום השמיני ביום המילה, ההתחייבויות שלכל דג שיש קשקש ודאי שיש לו גם סנפיר,ה4 חיות בהתורה מזהירה אותנו מהם שלא נתבלבל כי יש להם רק סימן כשרות אחד(גמל,חזיר,שפן וארנבת) שהם או מפריסות פרסה או רק מעלות גרה ועוד המוןןן הוכחות מדעיות שגם האתאיסט הכי גמור יודה אחרי שיקרא אותן שוודאי התורה היא אלוקית ואף אדם לא יכל לדעת את המידע הזה לפני שלושת אלפים שנה. קודם כל אני רוצה ממש להגיד תודה רבה לך על הסרטון המעניין ביותר שאני בטוח שטרחת והשקעת המון מזממך כדי להכין אותו בשביל לזכות את אחינו ואחיותנו היהודים אך אני חושב שאפשר גם לעשות סרטון יותר על ההוכחות המדעיות שבתורה ולפרסם אותו ברבים כי הרוצה לטעות יבוא ויטעה אך כשאדם יראה כאלו הוכחות מדעיות בוודאי לא יהיה לו שום צל של ספק שהתורה היא אלוקית, אני לא אומר שבהוכחות שלך יש טעות אך אתה יודע ככה בני אדם כשרוצים לפרוק עול יחפשו אותך על קטנות וצריך להפשיט את דברים עם הוכחות יותר ברורות ופשוטות... בכל אופן אחי היקר ישר כח גדול!! זכות ענקית יש לך ואני בטוח שאתה עושה הרבה נחת לאין סוף ברוך הוא ישתבח שמו ובעה שעוד ועוד יהודים יצפו בזה ויתחזקו וילכו בדרך התורה והמצוות כי זה רק יעשה טוב לכולנו בעולם הזה ובעולם הבא! השם יברך אותך בכל הברכות שבתורה !!!! אשרייך אורן אתה נשמה ממש טובה שככה אתה דואג להפיץ ברבים ולזכות יהודים בכל רחבי העולם!! שיהיה חודש טוב ומבורך לך ולכל עם ישראל אמן
שלום מיכאל, תודה על תגובתך היפה והמעניינת! אכן לתורת ישראל יש הוכחות רבות מאד (!) כולל ההוכחה החשובה ביותר: מעמד הר סיני והנצחת האירוע בצורה של צְבָת בִצְבָת עֲשׂוּיָה. העובדות המתמטיות שהובאו בסרט הזה הן בלתי ניתנות לערעור כמו ש 2+2=4 זה משהו שלא ניתן (רציונאלית) לערער עליו. מה יעשה כל אחד עם העובדות האלו? זה הנסיון שלו ואני ממליץ שמי שמראש לא רוצה את האמת שלא יראה את הסרט, תודה רבה על הפרגון שלך מיכאל ונראה שגם לך אכפת מאד מעם ישראל ולעזור ב"ה, אולי תנסה לעשות סרט בסגנון של מה שאמרת? יש לי רשימה ארוכה של סרטים והפקות ומחקרים עוד לעשות ולא אוכל להגיע לזה לצערי, שתזכה בע"ה לכל הברכות הטובות!! כל הישועות וההצלחות, הגשמה עצמית, עושר, שגשוג וכל טוב!! תודה רבה שוב על שכתבת כזו תגובה יפה, טובה, מפורטת ואיכפתית! בברכה, אורן
B"h! Yishtabach shemo!! Thank you Michael for your touching comment, it is really good and important to me to get the feedback, when you add your positive feedback it helps the community and me. All (respectful) feedback is welcome and needed and may hashem bless you with all the goodness and prosperity possible!! Thank you very much, Shabbat Shalom
It is a huge topic indeed, which covers stuff the majority of people falls to understand, or simply likes to mock because it can look strange, or doesn't apply to their point of view about the existence (starting from blind atheism, which is really present under this comment section) But it's a video not to underestimate for sure. Thank you, very interesting indeed, looking forward to analize it various times in the future. Edit: also, stunning editing on this video, it must've taken lot of time.
Thank you for your comment, Many people are in the mindset of nonesense over the internet and we can clearly see it in this comments section indeed. I think this alone can make one question what's going on: when mathematical facts are presented and people don't address them, make fallacies left and right and add dislikes without watching etc etc. The video editing took time and it also costly, but it is worth it for those seeking the truth, Thank you again for your comment, looking forward to hearing back from you
I almost cried watching this video. It touched me on a deep level. It was able to explain the Big Bang Theory to those who could not understand that both were possible and intertwined. Thank you so much for this video. May G-d bless you and give you the strength and power to make more such informative videos.
Thank you very much Forest Drugs, your comment is very encouraging and I thank you and hashem for it! May you be blessed as well, with all the goodness and kindness b"h!! I really hope and want to keep on creating such videos, there is much more information to be revealed!!! Part-2's production started months long ago, but was immediately stopped because of things going on in the world. I really hope to resume it asap!!! Thank you again for taking the time and adding your comment! Sincerely, Oren
Forest Drugs Forest, I also wept freely! I have had many trials in my life...I was saved from death more than a couple of times by what only could've been the hand of the Almighty. The revelations in Oren's video have the effect of childlike happiness, then jaw dropping awe...we who have believed all our lives and then we get this tremendous gift from Hashem---as if He were saying, "Nu, you were RIGHT!! I AM!!" Hashem Bless you, Forest!
Oren, Chag sameach! This work that you have done and shared selflessly brings to mind the passage in the first chapter of Pirke Avot; Shimon Ha Tzadik would say; "Upon three things is the world based; Upon Torah, upon Divine service, and acts of loving kindness." Certainly this research, which is so timely and needed by mankind, satisfies all three of the above. I've shared Part 1 with everyone I know. I know that the way will be cleared for you to continue your research and share it with a hurting world...and so that we all may be aware of the task of Tikkun Olam.
Wow Micahel, your comment is so deep and touched me incredibly dearly. I am with ahh inspired and feel of love and joy reading your comment. Hashem sent you as a messenger of that comment to give more fuel and goodness energy for this project. Thank you so much my dear friend, thank you! B"h we will try and and do more of this work. Part 2 is being developed and worked on right now.
@@2701 I am incredibly humbled and also filled with joy at your kind words, my Brother! Hakodesh baruch hu, has Malachim at work round about you (because naturally many, firmly in the grasp of yetzer hara are trying to work against...which will come to nothing! Baruch Hashem! Be well, my new and dear friend!
י- ה-ו-ה= 26 gematria Hebrew G-d= 26 gematria English In Hebrew and in English gematria=26 2 + 6= 8 Thus 8 is the only number after multiplying itself with another number the result will be always less than 8. e.g. 8×2=16, 1+6=7 e.g. 8×3=24, 2+ 4=6 8×4=32, 3+2=5 etc. Last digit always lower than original number 8. Meaning G-d's greatness is seen by His humbleness The number 8 in Judaism is a typological number, i.e. a number symbolizing the spiritual above
Hey cool video man, I have just one question and i apologize if this has been asked before: Pi is an irrational number so when you say 165 decimal points accuracy is really accurate (which it is) there are still an infinite amount of decimals more where the finding was ‘wrong’. Why do you think that is? Why couldn’t it have been perfectly ‘pi’?
Rens B. Thank you for your comment, I'm adding a like to it and replying, There is a wrong pre-supposition in the question presented in your comment, It pre-supposes there are infinite locations for "165" which is false How many index locations are there in Pi that are the 165th index location after the decimal point? Exactly 1 such location. Therefore, seeing 2701 (The value of the 1st verse of the Torah) at 165th location, meaning right at the exact right location of "נקודה" ("Point" in English) valued at exactly 165, means this is a 100% Perfect match that has 1 to 10,000 probability of being an accident on it's own and we saw the related findings reach to 1 to 2,300,000,000 and a total of 1 to 10,000,000,000,000,000 for the findings presented in this video, part-1 Thank you very much, Oren
@@2701 Yeah I've seen that in the video, and it is a nice find but I was just wondering why not just put in 'pi' in there instead of 2701 at the 165th location. Wouldn't it be better if the correct value of pi was in the text? Just wondering what your opinion on this is. Ty for the answer.
It's a nice find and actually an incredible find, as it shows 2701 located deep within Pi's decimal expansion right in the exact location of Nekudah - 165. And the first verse has been around for thousands of years. Since probability/chance cannot dismiss it but in fact validates it; it means a lot - and is very profound!! Moreover, it is a part of a much larger series of finds. Now, the best approximation for Pi that can appear naturally as average of initials of the Verse is presented in the verse 22/7 (3/14...), Pi is an irrational number and you can never express it's full decimal expansion therefore approximations is what you get. Moreover once we go to the actual decimals, the 1st verse of the Torah is connected perfectly, to exact matches of Pi and not approximations. What else is there in the decimal expansion of Pi etc? I want to produce part 2 and 3 but it will take time. Cheers,
@@2701 Thanks for your answer, I was just curious of your thoughts. Maybe one more question, why do you think it's pi of all irrational numbers, why not e or the sqaure root of two? What is so significant about pi ( I know you've touched upon this in the video but other irrational numbers are also important)? Or is it just an observation?
Hello again Rens B. You have very good questions and talk to the point, are you a journalist/blog writer? are you doing some work/paper about this? Firstly: do you Know that e or square root of two are not encoded as well? Obviously you don't. The fact we see Pi encoded so well and so fundamentally proves Pi is encoded. Does the exclude other constants? Obviously not. Other constants are encoded too by the way. The fact you know the code for your car doesn't mean in any way that you do not know the code for the door to your house. So the fact Pi is encoded and connected to the first verse of the Torah does not exclude other constants or anything else from being connected as well. Indeed, e is important and also the golden ratio is important etc. Pi seems to be one of the most if not the most fundamental constant out there though but that can be debated. Moreover: since Pi is the constant that defines circularity, as it is the ratio between the Diameter of a Circle to its' Circumference (Pi is very important in the definition of a circle, which has endless corners / sides [1]) Therefore, since Pi is so important in the definition of circles, once we have pre-defined terms connecting the first verse to the beginning of creation from a completely Circular-Shape, a completely Rounded Point [2] it means Pi is defined and connected to the first verse from way back [3]. This fact makes the connection between the first verse of the Torah to Pi a-priori and therefore to be specifically tested regardless of any other numbers or constants. Pi is connected to the Fibonacci series [4], and interestingly, the Fibonacci series is encoded in the Biblical Hebrew letters [5]. When I say encoded, I mean the entire series is encoded, it is encoded with a split of odd and even terms in the Hebrew letters, and interestingly: Pi is related to the part that has 2 letters in correlation, these 2 letters spell the name of Go-d from perspective of Constant-Mercy in the creation of the world and its’ maintenance. [6] Pi is also important as it is a factor in the normal distribution [7], as well as a vast amount of physical formula [8], meaning it is there: in the description of how nature operates as well as definitions of laws of nature etc. Someone asked me to look into e as it is also an important number in creation and I had very little time to check, maybe I will get back to it later on, yet I found significant things there already. There is work made by Rabbi Ginzburg and (Maybe Rabbi Shmuel Yaniv was part of it too) that was published about it and found interesting things. [9] [1] www.quora.com/Does-a-circle-have-no-angles-or-infinite-angles [2] Ets Chaim section A, B [3] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etz_Chaim_(book) 1573 the world's count [4] haimshore.blog/2019/08/15/fibonacci-series-pi-golden-ratio-simple-relationships/ [5] ruclips.net/video/OEitTICcVko/видео.html [6] same as [5] [7] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution [8] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_formulae_involving_%CF%80 [9] www.inner.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/7%2BSivan%2B5772.pdf page 7
מי שמסתכלים על זה ועוצמים עיניים ומחליטים לדחות אמת פשוטה, עובדות מתמטיות כה ברורות - זה עניין שלהם ומבחינה שכלית זה מחזק מאד לראות את התופעה הזו!! ממש מדהים! תודה רבה שהוספת את התגובה שלך, המחזקת והטובה הזו!! תהיה מבורך בכל מכל כל בע"ה!!! אפשר בבקשה לשאול האם יש לך דגשים לשיפור/שימור בהפקה ומה הכי אהבת? אתה לא חייב לשתף, זה עניין פרטי שלך, אבל אם תרצה, אשמח בע"ה בברכה רבה! אורן
I just finished the full video. I gotta say my mind is completely blown away. This video definitely helps reaffirm my faith and hopefully will put me back on track. Thank you for all of your hard work putting this together.
Thank you RuthlessProductions for this comment! From the bottom of my heart: I feel you!!!!!!!! I have made this video spending a lot of funding and time, and I get flames from many people who have strong hatred towards the subject and pre-suppose things against it. BUT getting even this one comment makes everything worth while!!! Because those seeking the truth and wanting the truth are as Diamonds and Gold!!! For them everything is worth!! These mathematical facts have many meanings for science and Torah studies - but we only just began!! I need to produce part 2 and 3 etc and your comment will aid in those hard works as it fuels this costly operation!!!!! Many people watch the video and feel the same as you but they don't add their comment. That's ok too of course, but you went out the way and added your comment, Thank you dear friend Oren
oren evron I didn’t come from a religious background but through lectures I learned many proofs which in my mind solidified the idea that the Torah is divine. I myself am not religious but observant of key holidays. My reason for not being religious has nothing to do with me knowing the truth. It’s more of a battle which I don’t fight hard enough for. I myself am tired of people saying God doesn’t exist. I have been wanting to start a RUclips channel where I logically prove the God exists. My approach was gonna be to highlight how every single part of the body is so amazingly designed that it had to have been designed by a higher power. I wanted to show my audience that a single celled organism simply cannot become all that exists today by mere randomness. I wanted to create a logical tree of “if this” “then that” kinda approach which is similar to software coding. I just can’t believe people can’t see what is clearly so obvious. Maybe my mind works differently. I’ve always excelled at problem solving. How can someone explain how identical twins have different fingerprints. Why did we need 5 fingers when 4 would have sufficed. I don’t buy the whole “we evolved” that way argument. There are creatures on this earth that CAN FLY for crying out loud. How the heck would evolution even know flying was possible. It’s so obvious there is a creator that it’s painful to sit back and do nothing. God willing I will have the motivation to push through my laziness and make this happen.
Yes, as is written in: וּמִבְּשָׂרִי, אֶחֱזֶה אֱלוֹהַּ Which means that from our body we can see Go-d. It is clear as sun light to those who want truth. Evolution is false in every aspect of science btw, and for me the main part is the probability examination and the catch-22s like male and female, brain and heart and so on, one is dependent on the other. I won't go into it now as it is not the topic of discussion, but your point is valid and I recommend reading the material or watch the videos from ICR especially Stephen C. Meyer
@@inc55 From my observations, it seems like in this generation, the atheists have more of an agenda than do the bible thumpers. Even if Evolution was proven to be true, they wouldn't convince me. This is an old planet with lots of buried evidence from previous epochs of creation. The task being, not to mix into this life elements that have nothing to do with it. That is why the Torah begins with the letter Bet, the second letter of the Hebrew alphabet, which is like a square with one side missing, the side that face's into the Torah. The other side of the letter Bet it is said not to enquire of, this being the primordial Torah, represented by the letter Aleph. Of the Torah, all is contained within her, the main obstacle in receiving her teachings though is arrogance, which just happens to be the primary character trait of Atheists. I wish you strength in your endeavour!
That was a fantastic and well thought out conception of a video! I enjoyed it tremendously! Thank you! I do look forward to see more videos of this magnitude!
Thank you very much S L, working on the next episode - and we have material for many episodes as this is coded very deeply and thoroughly Thank you for taking your time adding the comment, it means a lot to me, May Go-d bless you with all the goodness!! self fulfillment, joy, health, wealth and everything good! Oren
I went through the video and ran the calculations and they are spot ON this is amazing - anyone who takes just a high level view of the Torah can see G-D on every page but this gives us even more proof of a divine creator and not just a random explosion and happen stance.
Tom, I am very appreciative of people that did what you did: as these findings are of such high importance, the logical thing to do is to examine them yourself. This is also what I love about this kind of research, as it is clearly visible to everyone, everyone can peer review the findings and see that the results are correct. It's not like some lab that one needs to trust the results are correct, everything can be replicated by most people around the world. Thank you very much for adding your comment, it is very important to me!! May hashem bless you with all the goodness throughout your entire life b"h!!! Kindness, prosperity and fulfillment of life!!! Thank you, Oren
By the way, you might be interested in watching 2 other videos, one about the relationship between the Fibonacci Series and the letters of the Alef Beit: ruclips.net/video/OEitTICcVko/видео.html And the other one, the study and research done by Professor Haim shore about the Biblical Hebrew and its' connection to physical attributes of the objects those words represent, like Moon/Earth/Sun etc: ruclips.net/video/QvKlP7hEo-Q/видео.html Thank you again, Oren
oren evron yes thank you I was very curious as to how Fibonacci might also be found in the Torah after this video!!!! Thank you very much. May Hashem continue to guide you and give you insights to share with all of humanity to bring us all to the knowledge of Hashem in preparation for mashiach. May Hashem bless you and your work, your family, and give you success and prosperity in health, wealth, wisdom and all things.
Amen !! Thank you!! I hope you will get twice as much you blessed me for your blessings! Fibonacci is a very important series, no wonder you thought about it - what we added in the end of this video: Code of Creation (part 1) about the Fibonacci series and it's connection to Pi is also very important and you can read about it more on Professor Haim Shore's blog: haimshore.blog/2019/08/15/fibonacci-series-pi-golden-ratio-simple-relationships/
שמח שנחשפתי לסרטון הזה. אפילו בתור אתאיסט הוא פקח לי עיניים. אני צפיתי בהכל בפליאה מוחלטת מכמה שהרבה מידע שם מדויק ושבאמת לא ניתן לעוות אותו. רק דבר אחד לא הבנתי כשסיכמת את סכום הגימטריה של בחירה חופשית הגעת ל2701 אבל אתה לחיברת לשם הרבה אותיות (דקה 56:11) שאני לא הבנתי מאיפה הם באו. אשמח להסבר תודה רבה על הסרטון, אפילו עם מה שלא הבנתי - כל השאר היה ממש מדויק והתקשר להרבה דברים שלמדתי בעבר וישבו לי בחלק האחורי של המוח, והם אשכרה הופיעו לי כאן בהקשר חדש שמתקשר לפסוק הראשון בתורה שאני מכיר ויודע שקיים משחר ההיסטוריה האנושית, זה מדהים, תודה
קובי! תודה רבה שהוספת את תגובתך! זה ריגש ועניין אותי מאד לקרוא וללמוד על הרצון שלך לבחון את הדברים, להעמיק ולבדוק הן את מה שאתה מבין והן את מה שעדיין לא. תכונה חשובה ומהותית ביותר ואני רוצה לברך אותך ולומר לך שבשביל תגובה אחת כזו הכל שווה לי וב"ה יש לא מעט שיצרו קשר בכל מני דרכים. אז שוב, ממש תודה רבה שהוספת את התגובה שלך! מה שאתה רואה בנושא "בחירה חופשית" זה השימוש בגימטריה מסוג "מילוי". כלומר חשיפת שם כל אחת מהאותיות באופן מלא. למשל האות ב' = 2 בגימטריה רגילה ובמילוי אנחנו כותבים את שם האות: ב-י-ת ומקבלים 412 (ב' 2 י' 10 ת 400, סה"כ 412). ככה ראית את המילוי של כל האותיות בביטוי "בחירה חופשית": ב(ית) ח(ית) י(וד) ר(יש) ה(י) ח(ית) ו(יו) פ(י) ש(ין) י(וד) ת(יו), כאשר כל אחת מהאותיות חושפת את כלל הערך של הכתיב שלה. לאותיות מסויימות יש יותר ממילוי אחד, יותר מדרך לגיטימית אחת לאיית אותן והמקורות של זה מופיעים בעיקר בספרי קבלה אבל גם בתלמוד. עובדה זו גורמת לזה שיש יותר חופש ביד מבצע המחקר/בדיקה לנסות ו"להתאים" את הערך כפי שהוא רוצה וחובה לקחת את החופש הזה בחשבון כאשר בוחנים מובהקות של ממצאים מהסוג הזה. האיות העיקרי לאותיות האלף בית, אשר יש לו מקורות רבים ועתיקים הוא כמופיע להלן, שים לב שיש 4 אותיות שיש להן 3 סוגי מילויין וזה דבר קריטי וחשוב ללימוד (ה',ו',פ',ת'): אלף בית גימל (לעיתים גם גמל) דלת הא / הי / הה (מילוי אלפין, מילוי יודין מילוי רגיל) ואו / ויו / וו (מילוי אלפין, מילוי יודין מילוי רגיל) זין חית טית יוד כף למד מם נון סמך עין פא / פי / פה (מילוי אלפין, מילוי יודין מילוי רגיל) צדי (ומסתבר שגם צדיק זה תקין) קוף ריש שין תאו / תיו / תו (מילוי אלפין, מילוי יודין מילוי רגיל) אז כאשר עושים גימטריה במילוי (למשל כמו שמופיע בסוף הסרט), צריך לקחת בחשבון את כל האפשרויות שעמדו לרשותינו ולדלל בהתאם את המובהקות. ככה הגענו למובהקות של צמד המילים "בחירה חופשית" במילוי של 1 ל 4000 המחשב בחן 250,000 הטלות ונלקחו בחשבון כל ההצלחות של כל סוגי המילויין. לאחר לקיחה בחשבון של כל ההצלחות בכל הסוגים הלגיטימיים התוצאה היא כאמור 1 ל 4000 (אתה יכול לראות פירוט בשלב הקרדיטס בסרט). כמו כן, אני חושב שתמצא את הסרטון הבא מאד מעניין: ruclips.net/video/OEitTICcVko/видео.html בסרט הזה תוכל לראות קשר מתמטי מושלם בין סדרת פיבונאצ'י המפורסמת לבין אותיות האלף בית. למעשה 4 אותיות חושפות את סדרת פיבונאצ'י בצורה שלמה ומושלמת וזה מתרחש גם כן על ידי שימוש ב"מילוי" בברכה רבה, אורן
ב"ה! שמח מאד לקרוא את תגובתך, אכן העובדות האלו משמעותיות מאד למגוון רחב של נושאים ובע"ה נמשיך ונפיץ עוד חלקים מהמחקר בהמשך, כאשר לוקחים את הזמן ומסויפים תגובה כמו שהוספת פה, זה עוזר לרבים ומחזק את הרצון להמשיך בעשייה - אז תודה לך על שהוספת את התגובה! בע"ה שתזכו לכל הברכות הטובות, כל ההצלחות, עושר, אור, שגשוג, נחת וכל טוב!
I've watched it all, since it's useless to comment on something you haven't watched. It is a decent theory, but it's an absolutely useless one if you lack faith. If there is no God and there is no soul, there are no needs for the props of traditional religion. With dogma and creed excluded, then immutable truth is also done for. There is no room for fixed, natural law or moral absolutes in this case, and the "absolute truth" you spoke of at the end becomes meaningless as well. This video is good to strengthen someone's faith but, as the like-dislike ratio shows, the people that came here through the ad that you paid for think very differently about all of this.
I added "like" to your comment as you actually address real issues with sincerity. While it is true that this video is good to strengthen faith, and it does in fact do just that, as these mathematical facts are of extreme robustness and meaning and at the same time it is also true that those with pre-suppositions opposing these facts will most likely not get to be rational about it and therefore as you said will throw it out the window: Some people do pause for a minute and think and realize actual facts. The video is not meant for those with the wrong pre-supposition as I know from experience that the will is above the mind, as it is also taught by Torah, and there is a rule that one should not show others something that they will not accept. This video is for people who actually seek truth. This is written in the text before the video starts!!! So thank you for the comment and for watching
This is not true. Ask any atheist if they care about objectivity or the truth and they'll tell you that they don't believe in God *because* they care about those things. You can disagree with them about that, but no one is going to say "no this is wrong because I don't like it and truth doesn't exist." Especially since this is a mathematical claim, which can be verified much more easily than other biblical claims. Besides, if truth doesn't exist believing God is just as correct as not believing anyways.
Christopher Bell, No one said that atheist will claim they don't care about objectivity or truth. in fact they will claim they do and that they are rational. It is not about what they claim, it is about what they actually do. Once confronted with real arguments and facts, if they don't like the result they automatically block it and dismiss it, mostly without even understanding the argument or addressing the facts. They just smelled it goes "the wrong way" for them and blocked it. Thank you, Oren
Well said Moreover, those who want to believe the multiverse in order to explain away this world, would encounter a bigger problem, now they have many other universes to explain, so they expended their problem not reduced it. If they want to say the other "universes" in that multiverse mechanics are all nonsense it would not matter for as long as they are universes they need explanation for their creation. so that is a fallacy that goes against Occam's razor. Furthermore, it seems 10 to the power 500 is the maximum such "universes" may exist as some scientists told me this figure from the framework of the theory of everything that allows this to even be somewhat conceivable. Thing is: even the tiniest DNA molecule needs back bone made of sugar that contains information of more than 200,000 bases, the minimum arrangement probability for the smallest known dna would be 10 to the power of 90,000 If one wants an explanation how to calculate it, just ask Anyway, it is a logical-run-away-trip. people invoking that idea just don't want to handle what's in-front of them. In our case it wouldn't matter even if there were endless such other universes, as we are looking at the Torah, and according to documented history no human being even knew the digits we see in perfect matches here repeatedly. In other videos, b"h bli neder, we will see that Pi's digits correspond to each other, which means the digits are intelligently created. Thank you Aviel for your great comment
Hazak for this video. I noticed that the first word Bereshit can be : G.od created Pi Bara 3 1 4 (small values). And, we have Bara Elokim, that is : Bara 1 3 5 1 4 (small values) can be Bara 3 1 4 1 5. Another thing, Elokim value is 86. If we calculate the small values, the result is 14, that is Elokim is position 1 of Pi. The sum of the 14 first values or Pi is 74, and when we look at the 74th position in Pi we find the value 86 !
Patrick Belaich, this is wonderful! Barah 3.1.4 small Gimatrya of Shin Yud Tav, it has the right order and the right meaning. Very nice! Someone else wrote this sometime in the comments section as well, I think in Hebrew. Did you watch Part 2? it is Hebrew only, yet it discusses at length about 314. Elokim small Gimatrya same digits as 3.1415 not by same order is: 1. interesting 2. needs explanation why it isn't the right order Need to calculate the odds of getting the right 5 digits in the wrong order using Hebrew letters and their respected frequencies, then if the result is enough improbable, at least 1:100 and above then we can move on to examine what it means. Perhaps it means that somehow the name of Hashem can be arranged in a meaningful geometrical array that conveys further meanings in this context. Let's for now assume the probability value is significant enough for us to speculate it is a valid thesis. What kind of arrangement of 5 letters can explain it? Indeed if you put the 5 letters in a Pentagonal formation, since it is the first Pentagonal number, you get the letters to be formatted only on the outlines, which is similar to a circle That way, indeed one of the 2 format of getting the right sequence 3-1-4-1-5 is applied It is the one where the letters are arranged this way: Lamed-Alef-Mem -Yud-Hey This indeed is interesting! requires testing of the probability explained above, and also the probability for 1 of the 2 formats of letters to lead to the right order. interesting. Then you wrote about value 86 of Elokim and 14 being the small Gimatrya. Indeed it is nice that 14 on 1st position, it isn't the only a-priori option, example 86th location would be more interesting for us, with the current data. Interesting to note that the Gymatria value between the letters of the SPECIFIC arrangement of the 5 letters of Hashem with the way they make 3-1-4-1-5 in the format that is pentagonal gives a number that is called "Binah" it is what makes the letters stick one another in a specific order, it is a building-force. In any case the value is 103. The next appearance of 14 is 103. The only reason we can give this not-a-priori number merit this time around is because we are talking about a specific off-order arrangement that gives this exact values. Do not know how much validity it has after all dilutions thought. Also you noted that the sum of the first 14 digits = 74 You can look at it as something without probability meaning, because it isn't a-priori number. btw it is about 1:45 to get such a result. But the probability of getting 86 at location 74 is 1:100. Yet, you need to divide it by a few options that are more a-priori. So I think it should be around 1:25 - 1:33 maybe 1:50 Also, please note that 2701 divided by 860 is 3.14 860 = 86 * 10 Indeed the CP of creation is Nekudah, which is Yud and the CP of the triangle of the letters of the 1st verse has a CP and indeed it is the letter Yud. Which Yud? the Yud from Eloh-ym. Have a great day! would love to hear more from you basa"d Oren
Thank you 2nd G!! Simple and to the point!! I thank Go-d for allowing me to find these important findings and to reveal this part-1 of the research!!! I am very thankful that you took the time and wrote your comment, it means a lot to me! Thank you! May you be blessed with all the goodness, prosperity and health for you and your loved ones!! Oren
BH you are also blessed the same, I will add blessed with strength to deal with the incessant nonsense being put as comments by some people. Bracha and Hatslacha! Dont Stop! Meir
Thank you very much Daniele da Roma! Your feedback means a lot to me! These mathematical facts are of extreme importance and in my opinion, whoever sees it without being bribed to disbelieve, the conclusion is very simple and straight forward. Furthermore, this has many implications for future studies and understanding about cosmology, physics and even for math as more in-depth research reveals. We will reveal more and more of what hashem allowed me to see in part 2 and 3 etc Go-d willing. Thank you, Oren
Here's an interesting little fact left out of this video for some reason: 2701 is a triangular number, meaning a set of 2701 points can be arranged into an equilateral triangle. 2701 is the 73rd in the set of triangular numbers, and 2701 can also be expressed as 37 * 73. The symmetrical nature of 37*73 reminds me of the symmetrical nature of the first 628 digits of Pi after the decimal point as shown in the video. Take any one of these three numbers and the sum of the digits adds up to 10: 2+7+0+1 or 7+3 or 3+7 all equal 10, which reminds me of the 10 sefirot in Kabbalah, and the use of a base 10 number system which has metaphysical significance in so many mystical traditions. For the record, 10 is a triangular number just like 2701. None of that compares to insane info elucidated in this video though. Great work!
Thank you Jack! Very high quality comment Indeed these facts are important, also note that 628, is 314 twice The significance of 2701 as T73 is so big I just couldn't put it in the video and said we'll discuss the number 2701 in other videos. In part 2, which is currently being created T73 is discussed and a preliminary examination is being presented basa"d. It has very significant qualities and many findings are to be discussed basa"d. Just one note: there is a difference between T4 (10) and T73 (2701) as the first has no CP and is a the first stand alone unit after the initial CP of creation, where as the later is the ultimate construct which is also a stand alone unit but is already much more complex Chochmah and Binah workings together and is the base for further structures and it has Central Points (CPs) all the way down to 10 and then 1. Have a good day, Oren
@@2701 Thanks for the response, looking forward to the next video. Is there a Kabbalistic text in particular that elaborates on the Nekuda Emtzait? You may have mentioned in the video but it I can't remember.
Thank you, The next video is coming along b"h, though it is a Hebrew version There are many kabbalistic texts that elaborates a great deal, the main one is (as you said) mentioned in the video is "Ets Chaim" (A, Section B) by Rabbi Chaim Vital based on the teachings of the Ariza"l
In the Statistical Significance graph at 51:19 the final two lines are 1:130 and 1:130. They seem to be a repetition of the same phenomenon. Please correct me if I am mistaken. But if they are indeed two separate data points, they provide an additional beautiful idea. 130 is the gematria (numerical value) of צ"מ Twice צ"מ is צמצם )Restricted) , which is the exact description and verb used to describe the fashioning of the Nekuda Emtza'it, the Central Point of the Universe's Creation. As explained in the video, Nekuda Emtza'it has the value 776, which is the subject of the final 2 lines of the graph
Thank you for your interesting comment, They are 2 data points, one is From the 611th digit and the other is right After the 611th digit. Please note that the probability of 130 is examined using a statistical model and a more exact valuation can be 130-140 therefore I wouldn't use 130 as anchor (I just tested billions of sequences and got 1 to 140)
Just a quick question, does the computer check specifically for these examples or "similar" examples. For examples instead of first 82 being 2701, it's 2742 and the same thing for other categories..
Hello Peter, thank you for the quick question, When examining p value, of phenomenon of exact precision, the same phenomenon is to be matched to get the right p value. You can either calculate it using algorithm or by using large statistical data. Hope that answers your question, Feel free to ask which ever question you want, Oren
Step 1, make a video about a pseudo-scientific topic which also happens to be a very spicy topic. Step 2, sprinkle in meaningless data and big names to sound coherent and correct. Step 3, create a very enticing title(good job on that on) and promote it. Step 4, dodge any comments made on the video and repeatedly say that they haven't watched even 50% of video. Step 5, after baiting people to watch the video, you reap both the views and the watch hours. Amazingly put together. *edit* Don't forget to tell people not to edit their comments but to add extra ones instead to improve the viewer engagement.
Sounds like a plan. Just add a few more: 1. Don't make any commercials or money out of it 2. Invest your own money for license for music, footage etc 3. Invest alot in video production 4. Show people mathematical facts that reveal very important truths about reality and cosmology
lol Ivalince - if it wasn't so sad it would have been very funny... the whole research is of the Torah!! That foreign language is what's written in the Torah's first verse. Don't you think it is very poor to comment without even knowing what you are commenting on? I do. Take care,
Oren, GREAT WORK. Now im just wanting to get more insight on your spiritual beliefs and how it lines up with what is happening in the world today. Thanks!
I observe the Torah and try to make sure I align my world view with Torah as I want to be aligned with truth and Go-d Current affairs seem to be in perfect match with the prophecies of the great prophets and the explanations and sins of our sages.
Hello, apparently I've heard and checked that counting 611 numbers after the decimal poinf of euler's number gives 2808, first 17 gives 77 and 17 after the 611th gives 77 again. Moreover, 611 digits after the 17th gives 2808. And if we take away 17 from that (to get the mirror image) we get 77 yet again. This is over 60% of the findings related to pi found here. Ive checked multiple times hoping that I made some errors and it seems that it is indeed true unfortunately... And quite frankly makes me doubt that the findings in pi are all that special? Unless there is a verse with 2808 gematria value or something that also has something to do with 77. Could this "invalidate" what is presented here? What are your thoughts on the findings in e? How do they compare to what is presented here?
Hello Peter, Thank you for your comment, as usual your comments are good to read, Well, first of all if you have a set of 611 digits equal X and 17 digits from same location equal Y and another 17 digits after the 611 digits equal Y again then the total of the 628 digits equal X+Y + what is written above and therefore the 4th finding is a mathematical necessity and not really a finding. (unlike what is found in Pi as shown in this video). It is great to see that there is a correlation in pattern type between pi and Euler, based on the amount of digits of Small and Regular gematria values of Torah. If anything, then this further expands the mind about the root of creation in the 1st verse. How would something like that make the mathematical facts presented here negated? If the finding was perfectly matched, i.e 611 digits sum of 2701 and 17 sum 82, then it would be amazing and needs further investigation both for the connection between Euler and Pi and the 1st verse. Unfortunately it isn't the case and all you presented was some similarity with the type of pattern. The probability value you are asking is: what is the probability of getting that kind of pattern without(bold emphasize) a-priori sets of sum values(!) i.e it would have been considered as "success" even if it was 2807 or 2806 or 2805 or any other number, same for the 17 digits. Only criteria that was a-priori here is the mirror image and 611/17 digits. That alone, unfortunately is not very strong in terms of statistical value. But if it was a perfect match it would just expand and help us more with the code, it wouldn't negate it at all, if anything: strengthen what does not need to be strengthened. More over, we have seen here the squared digits and the matches with Nekudah and CP etc, all are perfect matches. By the way, code of creation part 2 is in Hebrew only, but maybe you should watch it anyway Have a great day basa"d Oren
@@2701 thank you for your quick and reasonable responses. I have watched some portions of the part 2, but given your suggestion I will check all of it now. Have a great day!
תודה רבה דניאל ולטמן - משתדלים ב"ה!! אנשים רבים דיווחו בכל מני דרכים שהם אף חוזרים בתשובה לאחר התבוננות מעמיקה בעובדות האלו - ב"ה!! מודה לה' יום יום שנתן לי את האפשרות לחשוף את הדברים האלו ולהציגם ובע"ה נמשיך ונצליח!! יש עוד הרבה מאד חומר!! שתזכה לכל הברכות הטובות, כל הישועות וההצלחות, אהבה ונחת לך ולכל עם ישראל בע"ה! בברכה, אורן
@@2701 אני נולדתי לבית חילוני הכי רחוק מהיהדות! ב"ה אני גילתי את האמת לבד לגמרי ללא שום הדרכה! אני מתחזק כבר מגיל 5 היום אני בן 16 ב"ה שומר תורה ומצוות חבדניק בדם ואוהב את הבורא בכל הלב והנשמה שלי אין עוד מלבדו!!!!! ואני מאוד מעריך את עבדותך לזיכוי וקירוב הרחוקים. בעז"ה יתברך נזכה לראות בהתגלות משיח צדקינו תכף ומיד ממש!
אשריך אשריך דניאל!!! מחמם את הלב לקרוא את הודעתך!! מקווה שנזכה לגאולה שלמה ומלאה במהרה מתוך רחמים אהבה ושמחה יחד עם כל עם בני ישראל בע"ה בקרוב מאד מאד!!
Oren, It might just be incidental, but I couldn't help but notice that 2701 and 82 both render the number 10...perhaps the ten Utterances? Probably I am reaching, but it did pop out (lol), in a manner of speaking. I'd appreciate your thoughts on this. Thanks, Oren.
It is not incidental, once the regular Gimatria is 10 the small Gimatria will follow, yet the number of letters is also 28 which is 10, and there are 10 statements and they call come from the root of wisdom, the point, the main point of creation. we are humans are not able to grasp something that has no shape or location etc, therefore the initial wisdom men can grasp is called a point it is the basic structure of everything and it is a location in space, so both are being sophisticatedly created at the same time. The letter that represents the point is called YUD which is 10 and ultimately it is 1 in small gimatria. This is the POINT of creation from which the 10 statements come from in the form of the 10 sefirot
Being humble means to actually check the validity of what you are saying and not to just assume you got it right, without even watching the video or addressing the facts.
oren evron no being humble is accepting that Ajay here has his opinion and you have yours, you’re just being an arrogant ass saying that you’re right and everyone else is wrong
LOL drifter - Oh the irony You say this after you, with your complete arrogance came here and said it is all nothing without even watching the video Humble doesn't mean to accept everything, humble means to accept truth, because truth is above you. When you accept everything you accept lies and then you put yourself ABOVE the truth. That is arrogance !!!!
oren evron here I did it for you: Humble: “having or showing a modest or low estimate of one's importance.” Literally nothing to do with accepting your batshit truth. You’re just an arrogant asshole demanding everyone stroke your ego
The information in this video will shatter the normal conception of this world/universe and each of our lives, moving the viewer to a higher level of consciousness. Ultimately--it could take a couple of centuries--informaiton such as this will force science to consider what I call "The Forbidden Hypothesis"--ie, the existence of a creator. When that happens, we will be an advanced civilization.
יש כתוביות בעברית לסרט הזה, מי שזה אל עובד לו שיפעילו את זה על ידי לחיצה על המלבן מצד ימין למטה ויש גם גרסה בעברית ב"ה: ruclips.net/video/bMD8fQuX1N4/видео.html
I will admit I havent watched the full video. But I will say that by the 5 minute mark you have jumped from pi and its use in geometry to its use in statistics...and have stated that due to that equation and the bell curve...every population and behavior of humans and animals are explained.....I'm sorry to say that no....its not. Human behavior is cause and effect as is animal behavior which is psychology and sociology and biology, not math and physics. I will edit as I watch and explain my critique as I go. At the 8 minute mark now, you jump from pi being used by the babylonians and Egyptians to the first words in genesis to god using the Torah as a blue print for the world. I'm christian. Not Jewish so idk how the story of the torah goes but in the bible it states god gave instructions to one of jesus's disciples on what to write into it and the history of the universe. So since you're using the torah I know itll be a bit different but the torah covers the same topics as the bibles old testament because they are both abrahamic religions, so I'm gonna go with you are connecting dots between scripture and math that are no where near one another. 9 minute mark, it feels like you took convenient letters out of a phrase to come up with 7 then made sure it added to your 22. Which is what the egyptions you say used to come up with pi, 22/7, but you also stated a few minutes ago involving the egyptions that they got that wrong by a digit, coming to 3.16 not 3.14. So which is it? Where they wrong or right? And you can do with with any statement, not just the one you chose in your video. I'm sure there's a phrase in alice in wonderland you can do this with as well and connect pi to the fact Lewis Carol was high off acid.
Thank you for your comment and I'm looking forward for your next "edits" or comments. I rather you add new comments and not edit. That way people can see what you said in what order. I NEVER EVER said that "every population and behavior of humans and animals are explained"!!!! what I did say is that such human behavior in many ways goes by the same normal distribution, which is observational fact www.usablestats.com/lessons/normal
@@2701 but that has nothing to do with pi and throws the viewer for a loop. Like yeah you can observe more people live I cities than in suburbs but the reason for that is more than statistics and math.
Yea, add comments here, that's the way to do it. The normal distribution is mathematically linked to Pi. It's just a simple math fact. Anyway, I would like to see your comments on the actual research and findings, Thank you, Oren
Hello Brook Book, The Numerical System of the Torah is known for thousands of years. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gematria There are 22 letters in the Alpha Beit and the system is like this: א = 1 ב = 2 ג = 3 ד = 4 ה = 5 ו = 6 ז = 7 ח = 8 ט = 9 י = 10 At this point, the values go +10 כ = 20 ל = 30 מ = 40 נ = 50 ס = 60 ע = 70 פ = 80 צ = 90 ק = 100 At this point, the values go +100 ר = 200 ש = 300 ת = 400 There is also a much less common use of last letters that continues until 900 for the end letters
It's like A is 1 B is two etc. In Hebrew it goes to ten and then goes to 10, 20, 30 etc Hebrew is called after Aber, Noah's descent who kept and taught the forgoten language after the flood. It was always called the holy original language God created the world with The letters are mathematical and energetical code, encrypt to every letter. And it's why reality is mathematical in its nature Also why the Tora must be read 24/7
Thank you so much for an amazing video with incredible insight. This has really made my day, and will continue to inspire my love for the creator moving forwards. Thanks again! God bless.
Don't waste and hour of your life, God wouldn't approve... By the way, as usual with this sort of "theories", it's just a numeric mess without any sense. If you want to find weird numerical coincidences, you will always find them everywhere. Peace.
Daniele, your comment, where you didn't watch the video, yet your pre-suppose everything shows everyone how important it is to actually watch the video. You just assume whatever you like and through your assumptions on others via public comments?
@@2701 I saw enough, trust me. Pick any other number and I'll find you hundreds of ways to combine it in the label of my t-shirt. This video is yet another attempt to make people believe in something invisible. Like in the past 2000 years, taking advantage of people low IQs and critical thinking (or their young age, of course). Go on like that, congratulations.
Daniele, did you even see the video? Because what you are saying requires the ability to switch data which is impossible for these mathematical facts. There isn't enough such wiggle room and Professor of Mathematics Daniel Michelson for example examined if "wiggle room" can explain away these facts. He found it that these findings cannot be explained with such wiggle room. If you want rational conversation please address the actual findings and show how what you said could be accomplished. You will see that rationally it is impossible. Only a person who did not examine the data would think this way unless he goes to irrational thinking. Therefore my question: did you even see the video? (I mean from start to finish) Cheers, Oren
@@simonesolazzo2320 Totally agree with you. The Torah is not a mathematical text book (not that this is math). The Torah is much more than these calculations. I appreciate the hard work and the time the creator of the video has devoted he really think this is the right thing to do. Anyway I think is better that we won't waste our time on this conversation and return to prove Fermat's last theorem.
The verse's value is 2701 and it is the first verse of the Torah which is 611. So this is not arbitrary at all. Furthermore, once we see that the same methodology repeats, any such wiggle rooms are obsolete. In reality it is repeated and the probability for it to happen by random (using the same methodology and having these perfect matches) is extremely minuscule.
you wrote in one comment that there are a number of big scientists that when asked how could evolution be true if it doesn't add up mathematically they just answered something like this "if not for evolution how do we explain how everything came into being". Can you reference me any sources to that which also have there names ?.
Oren you are an amazing person doing amazing work for Ha"Shem -is Oren Evron your real name? Your humility not to promote yourself but the Glory of Ha'Shem and His Torah is rare indeed. What is your full time profession if I may ask... לשׁון חכמים תיטיב דעת
Thank you my friend for your kind words and may hashem bless you and your family b"h. B"h we are doing Hishtadlut and G-od willing - truth will be revealed more and more, working on part-2 now! and yes it is my name
תודה - ב"ה ! משתדלים! בע"ה בלי נדר נעשה גם חלק 2 וחלק 3 וכן הלאה, יש חומר רב מאד לחשוף ב"ה! שתזכה לכל טוב ומכל טוב בע"ה! מודה לך שהקדשת מזמנך להוסיף תגובה
82 = 10 (8+2), 2701 = 10 (2+7+0+1). 10 can be the 10 commandments. 10 is also 1 (1+0) which means 1 G-d. 2701 read backwards is 10 - 72. 10 commandments - 72 names of G-d. Or 1 G-d, 72 names.
It all goes back to 1 and 10 because it is the Yud that is the center point, the Yud of Shem Elokim. You can actually see it when you make T7 (Sum of all numbers 1 to 7) for the letters of the first verse, which is 28, the center point is Yud of Elokim and around it you get 611 which is the Torah and around that you will get the limiting factor 2080 which is the Triangle of Din Some of what I just wrote are the findings of Rabbi Ginsburg
Simone, no one is saying that 10 sum is unique, and there was no statistical significant presented here, you are pushing an opened door and feel great about yourself as if you defeated others and showed ignorance, (which shouldn't make you feel so good either btw, but that's your problem) while in fact you showed nothing but your own ignorance and arrogance. This is repeated time and time again by you.
"This video is made available to the public out of thankfulness to the Creator of RUclips". This would be more accorate. Pd: the title in Hebrew has any purpose? Or just to give an aura of misticism like "ooooh is telling me the truth and has letters that I don't understand, this has to be real".
Reading such comments make one realize just how sad the situation is. The letters you see there are the 1st verse of the Torah, if you bother watching the video you are commenting on, you would have seen these letters in the video many times. Ahhh, Yet another red herring from someone who didn't even watch what he is criticizing... Cheers,
I am just.. confused for why PI is so important. There are many mathematical and physical constants, some arguably more important than PI. PI is just a ratio in the circle. actually, this ratio could've been defined differently (as circ/radius) and be 2PI, which will ruin this whole thing. To me PI feels very arbitrary; why not e, or the golden ratio, or the planck constants, or the constant of gravitation (to give a few)?
Thank you RonTheHuman for your good question - adding like to it Firstly why would one think e does not appear in the first verse? The fact we just saw Pi does not exclude the Golden ratio or e etc. In fact they are related as well. The value of pi as the ratio to the diameter is predefined and is used this way all around the Earth, it cannot be said that it has been defined this way for these matches to occur. Therefore even if Pi is "arbitrary" it wouldn't negate the research or dilute the probability as it is predefined this way. Why Pi specifically is related to the creation of the universe? 1. Pi is at the basic structure of geometry 2. Pi appears in many formula of physics and in the normal distribution 3. The first verse is predefined by Judaism to be the main verse of the creation of the world from scratch from a singular completely rounded central point in space. Thank you, Cheers, Oren P.S You can read more about why Pi is defined this way and not another way here: www.quora.com/Why-did-mathematicians-choose-Pi-to-be-the-ratio-of-the-circumference-to-diameter-of-a-circle-instead-of-circumference-to-radius
"Incredible" mathemical statistics and connections can be found almost everywhere if you reach far enough. Not to mention some, of your findings are based off of the wrong assumption that our human mathematical system is the only possible mathematical system.
Hello, Yes, if you have enough wiggle room you can find many things. This is not the case, as we are talking about a specific location and specific connection. Namely: the most famous book in the history of mankind, it's very first verse which is predefined to be the main statement of the creator in creating the world from a completely rounded point from scratch. As for mathematics, I do not need to prove anything about math itself, we don't know of other math and therefore that can't dilute the probability obviously. Thank you, Oren
The 1st Pasuk that equals creation is 22/7 which equals: 3.14... Furthermore, Hashem's merciful name equals 26. So 26/7 is 3.714...... which perhaps means when Hashem added his mercy to creation, the number 7 was added to the result. Does this mean anything because 7 is a very important number in Judaism?
Hello Jake, Thank you for your comment The most merciful name of Hashem is E-l (א-ל) meaning 31 which are the 2 first numerals of Pi, then Shakay (ש.ד.י) has 3 numerals of Pi 314 and these 2 appear together many times. The name you refer to is the noun name it contains everything and it is indeed name of mercy but mostly tifeeret. There is a strong connection between that name and the number 7, we might discuss it some other time
Oh boy this couldn't have been advertised to a worse person. There was not a single point made in this video that cannot be explained by backwards reasoning, evaluating with the end result as a prescribed goal in mind, random chance, or just being uneducated.
The first proof i see is about adding the values of the letters to return pi. Which according to the video is significant due to the circular nature of the universe because god divided across all sides evenly. This statement could should be used for a sphere with different calculations behind it. but let's grant the circle. First of all, the sentence used is arbitrary. Any other sentence could have been picked. But this one has been picked with the wanted result in mind. Then the calculation made. Why add all the numbers. Why not multiply the numbers, string them or add the numbers for all the letters in the words instead of just the first ones? Arbitrarily picked. Thirdly the values of the letters are arbitrary. There is nothing special about the order the letters in the alphabet are in, and therefore the number Pi is not special in this context either. The points above go for nearly every "statistic" made in this video. I will not elaborate on the rest because it will take too long. I am merely replying to hopefully alert others to the faulty reasoning made in this video. Kind regards,
Thank you for your comment You wrote: "The first proof i see is about adding the values of the letters to return pi. Which according to the video is significant due to the circular nature of the universe because god divided across all sides evenly. This statement could should be used for a sphere with different calculations behind it. but let's grant the circle. " Answer: Pi is as important for a circle and for a sphere. In the next pages there is discussion about sphere as well. But again for "pi" it will not matter as this constant value is important for both. So this point is pointless. You wrote: "First of all, the sentence used is arbitrary. Any other sentence could have been picked. But this one has been picked with the wanted result in mind. " Answer: No, my dear friend, this is not an arbitrary verse. it is the very first verse. if this was the 1171th verse your point would start to make sense and you could dilute the probability by 1171. However, again since this is the first verse this claim is baseless. Furthermore, this specific verse is the verse that a-priori thousands of years ago Jewish scholars regarded as the main verse of creation and on top of that, this is the verse in discussion a-priority with the reference of the initial creation from a singular point from Kaballah hundreds of years ago, well before the computer/modern age. Next you wrote: "Then the calculation made. Why add all the numbers. Why not multiply the numbers, string them or add the numbers for all the letters in the words instead of just the first ones? Arbitrarily picked." Answer: The most basic mathematical form is adding, it is what you teach your kids first, after counting which is not a mathematical action. So this is the most a-priory method of inquiry. However, if you insist, you may dilute by 2 the probability even though it isn't rational because of the order of a-priori list of such examinations. Furthermore, multiplying would usually result in big numbers, which means you cannot get the average of Pi almost never, therefore you cannot dilute it by "2 but rather by much much less as such act would have much lower probability. You wrote: "Thirdly the values of the letters are arbitrary. There is nothing special about the order the letters in the alphabet are in, and therefore the number Pi is not special in this context either." Answer: The values of the Hebrew Alphabet are known for thousands of years. Therefore you cannot accuse the researcher for switching the values arbitrarily. This point is once again: false. Thank you very much for adding this comment, It is important to see the answers to such claim as the claims themselves before actually looking at what's in front of you are important and make sense. However this research is a very serious research and has been examined by well known experts of math and science. Thank you, Oren
@@2701 you kind of made a mistake in your explaination by admitting to fit the calculation to the wanted result in the following sentence: multiplying would usually result in big numbers, which means you can almost never get the average of pi because it will have a lower probability. Here you just admitted to fitting the calculation to the wanted solution.
For some reason the reply I sent was stuck and got wiped out of youtube. Anyway, yes these are all valid spellings and you can see the valid spelling and statistical significance of this incredible finding at the end notes. Have a great day, Oren
Go-d... Dude, just say God... I know you shouldn't say the word "God" in vain... but seriously... this is the internet, just say God. lmao no need for formalities, im a christian myself, and we always say the full word c'mon XD
Hateva = 86 = Elokim Yes, Go-d as the creator of the world is called Elokim, the one who poses and holds all the forces of nature, the judgement of structure
But If its Stolen the Story from Sumerian.. can IT be from God?? I dont know what to believe is ther even an after Life ?😢 I grew Up jewish and i stopped Praying i have Problems with my health with just 30 years.. can god heal me through the Torah.. can you tell me a Psalm for healing i dont know the tehilim with Psalm i should look please help me.
Hello, We are addressing the findings presented in the video, any comment on them? A. Not stolen from Sumerian. Whatever they knew and believe they wrote, some of it is true and therefore some of it appears in Torah as well, like the flood, which was recorded by many cultures around the world. That is... because it happened. As for healing, it depends on the Cause of the illnesses, causes that can be identified and removed, will lead to cure. So you need to learn it thoroughly or go to someone who has, like Rabbi Asherov. Have a good day basa"d
רגע רגע רגע אז אתה מבין עברית כאילו? You know hebrew? אז מה הסרטון בא להגיד? מאיפה התחילה הבריאה? Please answer! What the video is going to talk about. what do you wanna say, in simpel words please?
הסרט מראה כיצד התחילה בריאת היקום על פי תורת הקבלה ופשט התורה, בסרט מוצגות עובדות מתמטיות עם התאמה בין הפסוק הראשון בתורה, הפסוק המרכזי של בריאת היקום ובפרט התחלתו לבין הספרות של הקבוע המתמטי פאי למאות ספרות אחרי הנקודה העשרונית. ארכימדס גילה 2 ספרות אחרי הנקודה העשרונית והתורה קדמה לארכימדס בהרבה מאד זמן. לכן, כאשר רואים התאמות כאלו ומבחן ההיסתברות מראה ש"מזל" או "אקראיות" לא יכול להסביר את ההתאמות אז ברור ש"מישהו" עשה את זה. מי המישהו הזה? כתוב בפסוק הראשון עצמו: בראשית ברא א-ל-ה-י-ם את השמים ואת הארץ, פשוט וברור, מי שרוצה, יבוא ויראה, יבחן ויבדוק ומי שלא - עניין שלו בברכה רבה, אורן
Thank you for adding your comment traxler! People sometimes reduce the meaning of adding positive comments and we are left only with those who really like to... do the opposite. The good comments add a lot to the atmosphere, and they show people what's really going on with the viewers - it is zikuy harabim Thank you again, it means a lot to me and fuels this "operation" of revealing the truth Thank you again, May Hashem blesses you with every goodness possible, health prosperity and self fulfillment! Thank you, Oren
Here is a summary with some of the findings presented, in a squeezed post made by Professor Haim Shore: haimshore.blog/2020/01/17/linkage-between-torah-first-verse-and-pi-some-of-evrons-findings/
ישתבח שמו!! תודה רבה על שהוספת תגובה אריאל, משתדלים ב"ה!! זה היה חלק א' ובע"ה בל"נ נוציא סרטי המשך - יש כמות עצומה של ממצאים שצריך לחשוף בע"ה!!!! שתזכה לכל הברכות הטובות, כל הישועות וההצלחות, אהבה, שמחה, נחת, שגשוג ועוד בע"ה!! אורן
In Hebrew: A in Adam stands for Afer meaning dust. D in Adam stands for Daam meaning blood. M stands for Mayim meaning water. Thus Adam (man) is made from dust, blood, water.
So your "creator" looked at the Torah, & then made everything whereas before there had only been " light"? Have I got that right? Then please explain to me where the Torah came from if there was only "light" & who wrote it???
Hello Phillip, It's not "my creator" it is our creator, Before the world was created there was no world, and the "infinite light" is a proverb for Go-d, meaning, the infinite one. So before there was the universe there was only the infinite one (Which he is not light but for the proverb light is being used) and the Torah is called "Orayta" meaning light with instructions, so these instructions were made by the creator before creating the universe. This is to create fundamental metaphysical layer for the creation. Now, Would you address the mathematical facts presented?
I see, so you want to dismiss mathematical facts and not address simple truths It's your choice, the will is free - do as you please, Have a good day, Cheers,
oren evron. You deal in a field belonging to the sciences. So who is right, you the mathematician, or at the least a person who uses the instrument of mathematics, numbers, to illustrate your hypothesis, or the scientists who propose the "big bang" theory? 🤔.👋.
You didn't watch the video did you? There is no discrepancy between the "Big bang" theory and the mathematical facts presented. in fact, we see direct evidence for the universe to start from singularity, a single point in space. I suggest sitting down and watching the video Do as you please, as your will is free Have a good day, Oren
lol the puddle fits perfectly in that hole because it has to, i.e statistical value of 1 to 1. But when someone goes to his house and clicks on the code for his door a code of 8 digits and he got it perfectly right and the door opens, he must have known the code.
@@2701 The dude who got the code correct could've been guessing for around 2000 years (or whenever the Torah was made) till he got it right then the passerby would have no reason not to believe he knew the code. Just because something managed to click, doesn't mean the answers are definitive. There's always more than meets the eye, and we will probably never definitively know the answer to whether or not someone even knew the code in the first place. Not trying to poke holes in your argument, just offering another perspective. I respect the effort you went through in this theory, but I don't think it simply qualifies enough as a damning answer. EDIT: And I don't think anything can or will be able to qualify as a clear answer to what's really going on. Maybe we weren't meant to have one.
Hello evorm, Hundreds of numerals of Pi after the decimal point were not known until the age of computers. The text is written and cannot be changed: from thousands of years ago. Therefore this argument is false
That's a fallacy, You don't need to discard "coincidence" completely, you just need to have it more probable for one way than the other significantly In science 5% (1 to 20) is enough for many publications. and 1 to 100 is well respected. Here are talking about 1 to 10,000,000,000,000,000 therefore it is well above what's needed Even a DNA test of your own mother would most definitely wouldn't be as significant as this In statistical hypothesis testing, a result has statistical significance when it is very unlikely to have occurred given the null hypothesis. More precisely, a study's defined significance level, denoted by, is the probability of the study rejecting the null hypothesis, given that the null hypothesis were assumed to be true; and the p-value of a result, is the probability of obtaining a result at least as extreme, given that the null hypothesis were true. The result is statistically significant, by the standards of the study, when . The significance level for a study is chosen before data collection, and is typically set to 5% en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_significance
Are there Torah lessons in English on RUclips? Are there books in English that everyone can buy? What's not allowed is to study the oral Torah and Halachah or in-depth Kaballah study as a Chevrutah. Conclusion, the kind of Torah information appearing in this video is allowed. Shabbat Shalom b"h
ככל שאנחנו לומדים יותר, ככה אנחנו מגלים עד כמה ידיעתינו מוגבלת ורואים שיש עולם שלם של דברים שעוד לא גילינו ולא חקרנו ולא למדנו ורב הנסתר על הגלוי בהרבה מאד!!!! ישתבח שמו לעד!!! ברכה והצלחה בכל מכל כל בע"ה!
Thank you very much for your feedback! I do want to continue making more b"h!!! There are so many more important findings to show the world, it's amazing!! Thank you again, may hashem blesses you with all goodness
Is there a summary of the arguments and evidence presented? Not to be offensive, but I'd like a little more background before I plop down and watch an hour long video I saw pop up on a youtube ad.
Professor Haim Shore made a summary revealing a few of the findings presented on his blog here:
haimshore.blog/2020/01/17/linkage-between-torah-first-verse-and-pi-some-of-evrons-findings/
Please note that this summary by Professor Shore regards the Hebrew version of the video:
ruclips.net/video/bMD8fQuX1N4/видео.html
@@2701 Thanks! I'll definitely look into it. I just needed a primer before watching the whole thing
New video, with introduction to "Code of Creation" is now out:
ruclips.net/video/RNy5b6EkrZQ/видео.html
Oren Evron has outdone himself again. Truly unbelievable work to show more indisputable proofs of the divinity of the holy Torah. Surely there will be haters that already have a bias from their atheistic predisposition, but not a single one will actually provide a valid argument that negates the countless facts provided in this (and the other) video that Oren so perfectly executed. As a further chazak u'baruch, i want to say that the translation to English was superbly executed and verbalized by the speaker. People will never realize the amount of work and efforts that are put into translating the holy Torah into another language, and thereby communicating it. As someone who deals with this daily, I can assure you it requires an enormous amount of siyata d'shamay (divine assistance) similar to the one the Creator gave Oren to find these facts in the first place--the point being is that HaShem wants any unbiased mathematical minded person that’s looking for the truth to watch this video a few times (you're going to need to in order to truly absorb the true genius of it all). WATCH, ENJOY, Thank HaShem and His servant Oren for giving you the merit to watch and understand it (or at least most of it for someone like me :) )
Thank you very much for your comment!
Reading through your comment shows that you know what you are talking about. The amount of efforts and work and funding needed for such a project to take place is very substantial, and I know how important these mathematical facts are. In fact these findings are as said in the video: just the tip of the iceberg of what is already known to me... and in the process I learned oh so much about things I recognize from outside without knowing them, needing to learn to go through a vast amount of material... What about all the unknowns? it is incredible!!! So much to learn..!!!
Thank you again Rabbi Yaron!
Shabbat Shalom
I'm not jewish, but this video blew my mind
Thank you very much for your comment!
The video is for everyone not just Jewish people, and I am very happy to read your comment as most people benefiting either don'y comment or don't have RUclips accounts and those who just.. hate.. comment all the time lol
So your comment helps the community and strengthen the light in the darkness,
Thank you very much!
May you be blessed with all the goodness, kindness, prosperity and self fulfillment possible!
Oren
definitely a monumental video
אשרייך. סרטון מושקע מאוד. כנראה יהיו לא מאמינים, אבל גם זה כתוב בתורה, כך שאין צורך להרגיש צער מזה.
ברוך ה׳.
ברוכים תהיו בע"ה
תודה רבה לך,
נכון, מי שרוצה לבחור בטוב, יכול להתבונן בעובדות מתמטיות ולהפנים ומי שרוצה ההפך - זה לא משנה מה הוא יראה הוא ימשיך בשלו, הרצון מעל השכל
שבת שלום,
oren evron אמת. שבת שלום
@@2701 אהבה רבה לך
בחזרה, ב"ה
@@2701 can't wait
חזק וברוך אורן!!יפה מאוד על ההשקעה והטירחה סרטון מעניין ביותר עם הוכחות נפלאות שהופק בצורה פשוט מושלמת כמו ההוכחות שבו!! ישר כח גדול אבל גם מבלי כל ההוכחות המתמטיות האלה ניתן להוכיח שהתורה היא אלוקית עם הוכחות פשוטות כמו הסיבוב המינימלי של כדור הארץ סביב הירח שמוכח בגמרא בדיוק של 6 ספרות אחרי הנקודה,מספר הכוכבים בגלקסיה,ויטמין K שאחרי על כרישת הדם שיש יום אחד בחיי הגבר שיש אקסטרה 20 אחוז ממנו וזה ביום השמיני ביום המילה, ההתחייבויות שלכל דג שיש קשקש ודאי שיש לו גם סנפיר,ה4 חיות בהתורה מזהירה אותנו מהם שלא נתבלבל כי יש להם רק סימן כשרות אחד(גמל,חזיר,שפן וארנבת) שהם או מפריסות פרסה או רק מעלות גרה ועוד המוןןן הוכחות מדעיות שגם האתאיסט הכי גמור יודה אחרי שיקרא אותן שוודאי התורה היא אלוקית ואף אדם לא יכל לדעת את המידע הזה לפני שלושת אלפים שנה.
קודם כל אני רוצה ממש להגיד תודה רבה לך על הסרטון המעניין ביותר שאני בטוח שטרחת והשקעת המון מזממך כדי להכין אותו בשביל לזכות את אחינו ואחיותנו היהודים אך אני חושב שאפשר גם לעשות סרטון יותר על ההוכחות המדעיות שבתורה ולפרסם אותו ברבים כי הרוצה לטעות יבוא ויטעה אך כשאדם יראה כאלו הוכחות מדעיות בוודאי לא יהיה לו שום צל של ספק שהתורה היא אלוקית, אני לא אומר שבהוכחות שלך יש טעות אך אתה יודע ככה בני אדם כשרוצים לפרוק עול יחפשו אותך על קטנות וצריך להפשיט את דברים עם הוכחות יותר ברורות ופשוטות... בכל אופן אחי היקר ישר כח גדול!! זכות ענקית יש לך ואני בטוח שאתה עושה הרבה נחת לאין סוף ברוך הוא ישתבח שמו ובעה שעוד ועוד יהודים יצפו בזה ויתחזקו וילכו בדרך התורה והמצוות כי זה רק יעשה טוב לכולנו בעולם הזה ובעולם הבא!
השם יברך אותך בכל הברכות שבתורה !!!! אשרייך אורן אתה נשמה ממש טובה שככה אתה דואג להפיץ ברבים ולזכות יהודים בכל רחבי העולם!! שיהיה חודש טוב ומבורך לך ולכל עם ישראל אמן
שלום מיכאל,
תודה על תגובתך היפה והמעניינת!
אכן לתורת ישראל יש הוכחות רבות מאד (!) כולל ההוכחה החשובה ביותר: מעמד הר סיני והנצחת האירוע בצורה של צְבָת בִצְבָת עֲשׂוּיָה.
העובדות המתמטיות שהובאו בסרט הזה הן בלתי ניתנות לערעור כמו ש 2+2=4 זה משהו שלא ניתן (רציונאלית) לערער עליו. מה יעשה כל אחד עם העובדות האלו? זה הנסיון שלו ואני ממליץ שמי שמראש לא רוצה את האמת שלא יראה את הסרט,
תודה רבה על הפרגון שלך מיכאל ונראה שגם לך אכפת מאד מעם ישראל ולעזור ב"ה, אולי תנסה לעשות סרט בסגנון של מה שאמרת? יש לי רשימה ארוכה של סרטים והפקות ומחקרים עוד לעשות ולא אוכל להגיע לזה לצערי,
שתזכה בע"ה לכל הברכות הטובות!! כל הישועות וההצלחות, הגשמה עצמית, עושר, שגשוג וכל טוב!!
תודה רבה שוב על שכתבת כזו תגובה יפה, טובה, מפורטת ואיכפתית!
בברכה,
אורן
@@2701 וואלה בע"ה אחי תגיד יש איך לפנות אליך בפרטי? יש לי כמה שאלות אם אפשר בבקשה
בשמחה, אתה יכול ליצור קשר דרך האימייל:
oren_evron @ yahoo . com
(בלי רווחים כמובן)
בברכה רבה,
אורן
לא חסר הוכחות לקיום הבורא.רואים את זה
נכון, פה יש גם הוכחה שהבורא נתן את התורה
This is amazing and beautiful. I am envious for the merit your are sure to receive for this - this work is nothing less than a true Kiddush Hashem.
B"h! Yishtabach shemo!!
Thank you Michael for your touching comment, it is really good and important to me to get the feedback, when you add your positive feedback it helps the community and me. All (respectful) feedback is welcome and needed and may hashem bless you with all the goodness and prosperity possible!!
Thank you very much,
Shabbat Shalom
It is a huge topic indeed, which covers stuff the majority of people falls to understand, or simply likes to mock because it can look strange, or doesn't apply to their point of view about the existence (starting from blind atheism, which is really present under this comment section) But it's a video not to underestimate for sure. Thank you, very interesting indeed, looking forward to analize it various times in the future.
Edit: also, stunning editing on this video, it must've taken lot of time.
Thank you for your comment,
Many people are in the mindset of nonesense over the internet and we can clearly see it in this comments section indeed. I think this alone can make one question what's going on: when mathematical facts are presented and people don't address them, make fallacies left and right and add dislikes without watching etc etc.
The video editing took time and it also costly, but it is worth it for those seeking the truth,
Thank you again for your comment, looking forward to hearing back from you
אורן כל הכבוד אני נכנס מחדש לסרטון ורואה שאתה פעיל ואכפת לך מהקהל שלך ואתה מגיב לכל מי שיש בעיה או לא הבין
צריך עוד אנשים כמוך בארץ❤
תודה רבה יאיר, משתדל ב"ה:)
אגב, האם ראית את הסרט הזה: (?)
ruclips.net/video/OEitTICcVko/видео.html
I almost cried watching this video. It touched me on a deep level. It was able to explain the Big Bang Theory to those who could not understand that both were possible and intertwined. Thank you so much for this video. May G-d bless you and give you the strength and power to make more such informative videos.
Thank you very much Forest Drugs, your comment is very encouraging and I thank you and hashem for it! May you be blessed as well, with all the goodness and kindness b"h!! I really hope and want to keep on creating such videos, there is much more information to be revealed!!! Part-2's production started months long ago, but was immediately stopped because of things going on in the world. I really hope to resume it asap!!!
Thank you again for taking the time and adding your comment!
Sincerely,
Oren
Forest Drugs Forest, I also wept freely! I have had many trials in my life...I was saved from death more than a couple of times by what only could've been the hand of the Almighty. The revelations in Oren's video have the effect of childlike happiness, then jaw dropping awe...we who have believed all our lives and then we get this tremendous gift from Hashem---as if He were saying, "Nu, you were RIGHT!! I AM!!" Hashem Bless you, Forest!
Oren, Chag sameach! This work that you have done and shared selflessly brings to mind the passage in the first chapter of Pirke Avot; Shimon Ha Tzadik would say; "Upon three things is the world based; Upon Torah, upon Divine service, and acts of loving kindness." Certainly
this research, which is so timely and needed by mankind, satisfies all three of the above. I've shared Part 1 with everyone I know. I know that the way will be cleared for you to continue your research and share it with a hurting world...and so that we all may be aware of the task of Tikkun Olam.
Wow Micahel, your comment is so deep and touched me incredibly dearly. I am with ahh inspired and feel of love and joy reading your comment. Hashem sent you as a messenger of that comment to give more fuel and goodness energy for this project. Thank you so much my dear friend, thank you!
B"h we will try and and do more of this work. Part 2 is being developed and worked on right now.
@@2701 I am incredibly humbled and also filled with joy at your kind words, my Brother!
Hakodesh baruch hu, has Malachim at work round about you (because naturally many, firmly in the grasp of yetzer hara are trying to work against...which will come to nothing! Baruch Hashem!
Be well, my new and dear friend!
Thank you my dear friend, thank you!
י- ה-ו-ה= 26 gematria Hebrew
G-d= 26 gematria English
In Hebrew and in English gematria=26
2 + 6= 8 Thus
8 is the only number after multiplying itself with another number the result will be always less than 8. e.g. 8×2=16, 1+6=7
e.g. 8×3=24, 2+ 4=6
8×4=32, 3+2=5 etc.
Last digit always lower than original number 8.
Meaning G-d's greatness is seen by His humbleness
The number 8 in Judaism is a typological number, i.e. a number symbolizing the spiritual above
Hey cool video man, I have just one question and i apologize if this has been asked before: Pi is an irrational number so when you say 165 decimal points accuracy is really accurate (which it is) there are still an infinite amount of decimals more where the finding was ‘wrong’. Why do you think that is? Why couldn’t it have been perfectly ‘pi’?
Rens B. Thank you for your comment,
I'm adding a like to it and replying,
There is a wrong pre-supposition in the question presented in your comment,
It pre-supposes there are infinite locations for "165" which is false
How many index locations are there in Pi that are the 165th index location after the decimal point?
Exactly 1 such location.
Therefore, seeing 2701 (The value of the 1st verse of the Torah) at 165th location, meaning right at the exact right location of "נקודה" ("Point" in English) valued at exactly 165, means this is a 100% Perfect match that has 1 to 10,000 probability of being an accident on it's own and we saw the related findings reach to 1 to 2,300,000,000 and a total of 1 to 10,000,000,000,000,000 for the findings presented in this video, part-1
Thank you very much,
Oren
@@2701 Yeah I've seen that in the video, and it is a nice find but I was just wondering why not just put in 'pi' in there instead of 2701 at the 165th location. Wouldn't it be better if the correct value of pi was in the text? Just wondering what your opinion on this is. Ty for the answer.
It's a nice find and actually an incredible find, as it shows 2701 located deep within Pi's decimal expansion right in the exact location of Nekudah - 165. And the first verse has been around for thousands of years. Since probability/chance cannot dismiss it but in fact validates it; it means a lot - and is very profound!! Moreover, it is a part of a much larger series of finds.
Now, the best approximation for Pi that can appear naturally as average of initials of the Verse is presented in the verse 22/7 (3/14...), Pi is an irrational number and you can never express it's full decimal expansion therefore approximations is what you get. Moreover once we go to the actual decimals, the 1st verse of the Torah is connected perfectly, to exact matches of Pi and not approximations.
What else is there in the decimal expansion of Pi etc? I want to produce part 2 and 3 but it will take time.
Cheers,
@@2701 Thanks for your answer, I was just curious of your thoughts. Maybe one more question, why do you think it's pi of all irrational numbers, why not e or the sqaure root of two? What is so significant about pi ( I know you've touched upon this in the video but other irrational numbers are also important)? Or is it just an observation?
Hello again Rens B.
You have very good questions and talk to the point, are you a journalist/blog writer? are you doing some work/paper about this?
Firstly: do you Know that e or square root of two are not encoded as well? Obviously you don't.
The fact we see Pi encoded so well and so fundamentally proves Pi is encoded. Does the exclude other constants? Obviously not. Other constants are encoded too by the way.
The fact you know the code for your car doesn't mean in any way that you do not know the code for the door to your house.
So the fact Pi is encoded and connected to the first verse of the Torah does not exclude other constants or anything else from being connected as well.
Indeed, e is important and also the golden ratio is important etc. Pi seems to be one of the most if not the most fundamental constant out there though but that can be debated.
Moreover: since Pi is the constant that defines circularity, as it is the ratio between the Diameter of a Circle to its' Circumference (Pi is very important in the definition of a circle, which has endless corners / sides [1])
Therefore, since Pi is so important in the definition of circles, once we have pre-defined terms connecting the first verse to the beginning of creation from a completely Circular-Shape, a completely Rounded Point [2] it means Pi is defined and connected to the first verse from way back [3].
This fact makes the connection between the first verse of the Torah to Pi a-priori and therefore to be specifically tested regardless of any other numbers or constants.
Pi is connected to the Fibonacci series [4], and interestingly, the Fibonacci series is encoded in the Biblical Hebrew letters [5]. When I say encoded, I mean the entire series is encoded, it is encoded with a split of odd and even terms in the Hebrew letters, and interestingly: Pi is related to the part that has 2 letters in correlation, these 2 letters spell the name of Go-d from perspective of Constant-Mercy in the creation of the world and its’ maintenance. [6]
Pi is also important as it is a factor in the normal distribution [7], as well as a vast amount of physical formula [8], meaning it is there: in the description of how nature operates as well as definitions of laws of nature etc.
Someone asked me to look into e as it is also an important number in creation and I had very little time to check, maybe I will get back to it later on, yet I found significant things there already. There is work made by Rabbi Ginzburg and (Maybe Rabbi Shmuel Yaniv was part of it too) that was published about it and found interesting things. [9]
[1] www.quora.com/Does-a-circle-have-no-angles-or-infinite-angles
[2] Ets Chaim section A, B
[3] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etz_Chaim_(book) 1573 the world's count
[4] haimshore.blog/2019/08/15/fibonacci-series-pi-golden-ratio-simple-relationships/
[5] ruclips.net/video/OEitTICcVko/видео.html
[6] same as [5]
[7] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution
[8] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_formulae_involving_%CF%80
[9] www.inner.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/7%2BSivan%2B5772.pdf page 7
Can't wait for part 2! thank you for this mindblowing information!!
You are welcome Lia! Thank you for adding your comment!
I hope part 2 will come out sooner rather than later as well! Will try to get it out there !
אורן, כל הכבוד על המחקר ועל ההפקה, פשוט מדהים! אני בטח לא צריך להגיד לך שאין צורך להתרגש מכל קטני האמונה. עיניים להם ולא יראו...
מי שמסתכלים על זה ועוצמים עיניים ומחליטים לדחות אמת פשוטה, עובדות מתמטיות כה ברורות - זה עניין שלהם ומבחינה שכלית זה מחזק מאד לראות את התופעה הזו!! ממש מדהים!
תודה רבה שהוספת את התגובה שלך, המחזקת והטובה הזו!! תהיה מבורך בכל מכל כל בע"ה!!!
אפשר בבקשה לשאול האם יש לך דגשים לשיפור/שימור בהפקה ומה הכי אהבת?
אתה לא חייב לשתף, זה עניין פרטי שלך, אבל אם תרצה, אשמח בע"ה
בברכה רבה!
אורן
I just finished the full video. I gotta say my mind is completely blown away. This video definitely helps reaffirm my faith and hopefully will put me back on track. Thank you for all of your hard work putting this together.
Thank you RuthlessProductions for this comment!
From the bottom of my heart: I feel you!!!!!!!!
I have made this video spending a lot of funding and time, and I get flames from many people who have strong hatred towards the subject and pre-suppose things against it. BUT getting even this one comment makes everything worth while!!! Because those seeking the truth and wanting the truth are as Diamonds and Gold!!! For them everything is worth!!
These mathematical facts have many meanings for science and Torah studies - but we only just began!! I need to produce part 2 and 3 etc and your comment will aid in those hard works as it fuels this costly operation!!!!!
Many people watch the video and feel the same as you but they don't add their comment. That's ok too of course, but you went out the way and added your comment,
Thank you dear friend
Oren
oren evron I didn’t come from a religious background but through lectures I learned many proofs which in my mind solidified the idea that the Torah is divine. I myself am not religious but observant of key holidays. My reason for not being religious has nothing to do with me knowing the truth. It’s more of a battle which I don’t fight hard enough for. I myself am tired of people saying God doesn’t exist. I have been wanting to start a RUclips channel where I logically prove the God exists. My approach was gonna be to highlight how every single part of the body is so amazingly designed that it had to have been designed by a higher power. I wanted to show my audience that a single celled organism simply cannot become all that exists today by mere randomness. I wanted to create a logical tree of “if this” “then that” kinda approach which is similar to software coding. I just can’t believe people can’t see what is clearly so obvious. Maybe my mind works differently. I’ve always excelled at problem solving. How can someone explain how identical twins have different fingerprints. Why did we need 5 fingers when 4 would have sufficed. I don’t buy the whole “we evolved” that way argument. There are creatures on this earth that CAN FLY for crying out loud. How the heck would evolution even know flying was possible. It’s so obvious there is a creator that it’s painful to sit back and do nothing. God willing I will have the motivation to push through my laziness and make this happen.
Yes, as is written in:
וּמִבְּשָׂרִי, אֶחֱזֶה אֱלוֹהַּ
Which means that from our body we can see Go-d. It is clear as sun light to those who want truth.
Evolution is false in every aspect of science btw, and for me the main part is the probability examination and the catch-22s like male and female, brain and heart and so on, one is dependent on the other.
I won't go into it now as it is not the topic of discussion, but your point is valid and I recommend reading the material or watch the videos from ICR especially Stephen C. Meyer
@@inc55 From my observations, it seems like in this generation, the atheists have more of an agenda than do the bible thumpers. Even if Evolution was proven to be true, they wouldn't convince me. This is an old planet with lots of buried evidence from previous epochs of creation. The task being, not to mix into this life elements that have nothing to do with it. That is why the Torah begins with the letter Bet, the second letter of the Hebrew alphabet, which is like a square with one side missing, the side that face's into the Torah. The other side of the letter Bet it is said not to enquire of, this being the primordial Torah, represented by the letter Aleph. Of the Torah, all is contained within her, the main obstacle in receiving her teachings though is arrogance, which just happens to be the primary character trait of Atheists. I wish you strength in your endeavour!
That was a fantastic and well thought out conception of a video! I enjoyed it tremendously! Thank you! I do look forward to see more videos of this magnitude!
Thank you very much S L, working on the next episode - and we have material for many episodes as this is coded very deeply and thoroughly
Thank you for taking your time adding the comment, it means a lot to me,
May Go-d bless you with all the goodness!! self fulfillment, joy, health, wealth and everything good!
Oren
I went through the video and ran the calculations and they are spot ON this is amazing - anyone who takes just a high level view of the Torah can see G-D on every page but this gives us even more proof of a divine creator and not just a random explosion and happen stance.
Tom, I am very appreciative of people that did what you did: as these findings are of such high importance, the logical thing to do is to examine them yourself. This is also what I love about this kind of research, as it is clearly visible to everyone, everyone can peer review the findings and see that the results are correct.
It's not like some lab that one needs to trust the results are correct, everything can be replicated by most people around the world.
Thank you very much for adding your comment, it is very important to me!!
May hashem bless you with all the goodness throughout your entire life b"h!!! Kindness, prosperity and fulfillment of life!!!
Thank you,
Oren
By the way, you might be interested in watching 2 other videos, one about the relationship between the Fibonacci Series and the letters of the Alef Beit:
ruclips.net/video/OEitTICcVko/видео.html
And the other one, the study and research done by Professor Haim shore about the Biblical Hebrew and its' connection to physical attributes of the objects those words represent, like Moon/Earth/Sun etc:
ruclips.net/video/QvKlP7hEo-Q/видео.html
Thank you again,
Oren
oren evron yes thank you I was very curious as to how Fibonacci might also be found in the Torah after this video!!!! Thank you very much. May Hashem continue to guide you and give you insights to share with all of humanity to bring us all to the knowledge of Hashem in preparation for mashiach. May Hashem bless you and your work, your family, and give you success and prosperity in health, wealth, wisdom and all things.
Amen !! Thank you!! I hope you will get twice as much you blessed me for your blessings!
Fibonacci is a very important series, no wonder you thought about it - what we added in the end of this video: Code of Creation (part 1) about the Fibonacci series and it's connection to Pi is also very important and you can read about it more on Professor Haim Shore's blog:
haimshore.blog/2019/08/15/fibonacci-series-pi-golden-ratio-simple-relationships/
שמח שנחשפתי לסרטון הזה. אפילו בתור אתאיסט הוא פקח לי עיניים.
אני צפיתי בהכל בפליאה מוחלטת מכמה שהרבה מידע שם מדויק ושבאמת לא ניתן לעוות אותו. רק דבר אחד לא הבנתי
כשסיכמת את סכום הגימטריה של בחירה חופשית הגעת ל2701 אבל אתה לחיברת לשם הרבה אותיות (דקה 56:11) שאני לא הבנתי מאיפה הם באו. אשמח להסבר
תודה רבה על הסרטון, אפילו עם מה שלא הבנתי - כל השאר היה ממש מדויק והתקשר להרבה דברים שלמדתי בעבר וישבו לי בחלק האחורי של המוח, והם אשכרה הופיעו לי כאן בהקשר חדש שמתקשר לפסוק הראשון בתורה שאני מכיר ויודע שקיים משחר ההיסטוריה האנושית, זה מדהים, תודה
קובי!
תודה רבה שהוספת את תגובתך! זה ריגש ועניין אותי מאד לקרוא וללמוד על הרצון שלך לבחון את הדברים, להעמיק ולבדוק הן את מה שאתה מבין והן את מה שעדיין לא. תכונה חשובה ומהותית ביותר ואני רוצה לברך אותך ולומר לך שבשביל תגובה אחת כזו הכל שווה לי וב"ה יש לא מעט שיצרו קשר בכל מני דרכים. אז שוב, ממש תודה רבה שהוספת את התגובה שלך!
מה שאתה רואה בנושא "בחירה חופשית" זה השימוש בגימטריה מסוג "מילוי". כלומר חשיפת שם כל אחת מהאותיות באופן מלא.
למשל האות ב' = 2 בגימטריה רגילה ובמילוי אנחנו כותבים את שם האות: ב-י-ת ומקבלים 412 (ב' 2 י' 10 ת 400, סה"כ 412). ככה ראית את המילוי של כל האותיות בביטוי "בחירה חופשית": ב(ית) ח(ית) י(וד) ר(יש) ה(י) ח(ית) ו(יו) פ(י) ש(ין) י(וד) ת(יו), כאשר כל אחת מהאותיות חושפת את כלל הערך של הכתיב שלה.
לאותיות מסויימות יש יותר ממילוי אחד, יותר מדרך לגיטימית אחת לאיית אותן והמקורות של זה מופיעים בעיקר בספרי קבלה אבל גם בתלמוד. עובדה זו גורמת לזה שיש יותר חופש ביד מבצע המחקר/בדיקה לנסות ו"להתאים" את הערך כפי שהוא רוצה וחובה לקחת את החופש הזה בחשבון כאשר בוחנים מובהקות של ממצאים מהסוג הזה.
האיות העיקרי לאותיות האלף בית, אשר יש לו מקורות רבים ועתיקים הוא כמופיע להלן, שים לב שיש 4 אותיות שיש להן 3 סוגי מילויין וזה דבר קריטי וחשוב ללימוד (ה',ו',פ',ת'):
אלף
בית
גימל (לעיתים גם גמל)
דלת
הא / הי / הה (מילוי אלפין, מילוי יודין מילוי רגיל)
ואו / ויו / וו (מילוי אלפין, מילוי יודין מילוי רגיל)
זין
חית
טית
יוד
כף
למד
מם
נון
סמך
עין
פא / פי / פה (מילוי אלפין, מילוי יודין מילוי רגיל)
צדי (ומסתבר שגם צדיק זה תקין)
קוף
ריש
שין
תאו / תיו / תו (מילוי אלפין, מילוי יודין מילוי רגיל)
אז כאשר עושים גימטריה במילוי (למשל כמו שמופיע בסוף הסרט), צריך לקחת בחשבון את כל האפשרויות שעמדו לרשותינו ולדלל בהתאם את המובהקות.
ככה הגענו למובהקות של צמד המילים "בחירה חופשית" במילוי של 1 ל 4000
המחשב בחן 250,000 הטלות ונלקחו בחשבון כל ההצלחות של כל סוגי המילויין. לאחר לקיחה בחשבון של כל ההצלחות בכל הסוגים הלגיטימיים התוצאה היא כאמור 1 ל 4000 (אתה יכול לראות פירוט בשלב הקרדיטס בסרט).
כמו כן, אני חושב שתמצא את הסרטון הבא מאד מעניין:
ruclips.net/video/OEitTICcVko/видео.html
בסרט הזה תוכל לראות קשר מתמטי מושלם בין סדרת פיבונאצ'י המפורסמת לבין אותיות האלף בית. למעשה 4 אותיות חושפות את סדרת פיבונאצ'י בצורה שלמה ומושלמת וזה מתרחש גם כן על ידי שימוש ב"מילוי"
בברכה רבה,
אורן
ואוו סרטון מעולה!
המון עבודות מעניינות שהשאירו אותי עם פה פתוח!
נהנתי מאוד.
ב"ה! שמח מאד לקרוא את תגובתך,
אכן העובדות האלו משמעותיות מאד למגוון רחב של נושאים ובע"ה נמשיך ונפיץ עוד חלקים מהמחקר בהמשך,
כאשר לוקחים את הזמן ומסויפים תגובה כמו שהוספת פה, זה עוזר לרבים ומחזק את הרצון להמשיך בעשייה - אז תודה לך על שהוספת את התגובה!
בע"ה שתזכו לכל הברכות הטובות, כל ההצלחות, עושר, אור, שגשוג, נחת וכל טוב!
I've watched it all, since it's useless to comment on something you haven't watched.
It is a decent theory, but it's an absolutely useless one if you lack faith.
If there is no God and there is no soul, there are no needs for the props of traditional religion. With dogma and creed excluded, then immutable truth is also done for. There is no room for fixed, natural law or moral absolutes in this case, and the "absolute truth" you spoke of at the end becomes meaningless as well.
This video is good to strengthen someone's faith but, as the like-dislike ratio shows, the people that came here through the ad that you paid for think very differently about all of this.
I added "like" to your comment as you actually address real issues with sincerity.
While it is true that this video is good to strengthen faith, and it does in fact do just that, as these mathematical facts are of extreme robustness and meaning and at the same time it is also true that those with pre-suppositions opposing these facts will most likely not get to be rational about it and therefore as you said will throw it out the window: Some people do pause for a minute and think and realize actual facts.
The video is not meant for those with the wrong pre-supposition as I know from experience that the will is above the mind, as it is also taught by Torah, and there is a rule that one should not show others something that they will not accept. This video is for people who actually seek truth.
This is written in the text before the video starts!!!
So thank you for the comment and for watching
This is not true. Ask any atheist if they care about objectivity or the truth and they'll tell you that they don't believe in God *because* they care about those things. You can disagree with them about that, but no one is going to say "no this is wrong because I don't like it and truth doesn't exist." Especially since this is a mathematical claim, which can be verified much more easily than other biblical claims. Besides, if truth doesn't exist believing God is just as correct as not believing anyways.
Christopher Bell,
No one said that atheist will claim they don't care about objectivity or truth. in fact they will claim they do and that they are rational.
It is not about what they claim, it is about what they actually do. Once confronted with real arguments and facts, if they don't like the result they automatically block it and dismiss it, mostly without even understanding the argument or addressing the facts. They just smelled it goes "the wrong way" for them and blocked it.
Thank you,
Oren
Well said
Moreover, those who want to believe the multiverse in order to explain away this world, would encounter a bigger problem, now they have many other universes to explain, so they expended their problem not reduced it.
If they want to say the other "universes" in that multiverse mechanics are all nonsense it would not matter for as long as they are universes they need explanation for their creation. so that is a fallacy that goes against Occam's razor.
Furthermore, it seems 10 to the power 500 is the maximum such "universes" may exist as some scientists told me this figure from the framework of the theory of everything that allows this to even be somewhat conceivable.
Thing is: even the tiniest DNA molecule needs back bone made of sugar that contains information of more than 200,000 bases, the minimum arrangement probability for the smallest known dna would be 10 to the power of 90,000
If one wants an explanation how to calculate it, just ask
Anyway, it is a logical-run-away-trip. people invoking that idea just don't want to handle what's in-front of them.
In our case it wouldn't matter even if there were endless such other universes, as we are looking at the Torah, and according to documented history no human being even knew the digits we see in perfect matches here repeatedly.
In other videos, b"h bli neder, we will see that Pi's digits correspond to each other, which means the digits are intelligently created.
Thank you Aviel for your great comment
Hazak for this video.
I noticed that the first word Bereshit can be : G.od created Pi
Bara 3 1 4 (small values).
And, we have Bara Elokim, that is :
Bara 1 3 5 1 4 (small values) can be Bara 3 1 4 1 5.
Another thing, Elokim value is 86.
If we calculate the small values, the result is 14, that is Elokim is position 1 of Pi.
The sum of the 14 first values or Pi is 74, and when we look at the 74th position in Pi we find the value 86 !
Patrick Belaich, this is wonderful!
Barah 3.1.4 small Gimatrya of Shin Yud Tav, it has the right order and the right meaning. Very nice! Someone else wrote this sometime in the comments section as well, I think in Hebrew.
Did you watch Part 2? it is Hebrew only, yet it discusses at length about 314.
Elokim small Gimatrya same digits as 3.1415 not by same order is:
1. interesting
2. needs explanation why it isn't the right order
Need to calculate the odds of getting the right 5 digits in the wrong order using Hebrew letters and their respected frequencies, then if the result is enough improbable, at least 1:100 and above then we can move on to examine what it means. Perhaps it means that somehow the name of Hashem can be arranged in a meaningful geometrical array that conveys further meanings in this context.
Let's for now assume the probability value is significant enough for us to speculate it is a valid thesis. What kind of arrangement of 5 letters can explain it?
Indeed if you put the 5 letters in a Pentagonal formation, since it is the first Pentagonal number, you get the letters to be formatted only on the outlines, which is similar to a circle
That way, indeed one of the 2 format of getting the right sequence 3-1-4-1-5 is applied
It is the one where the letters are arranged this way: Lamed-Alef-Mem -Yud-Hey
This indeed is interesting! requires testing of the probability explained above, and also the probability for 1 of the 2 formats of letters to lead to the right order. interesting.
Then you wrote about value 86 of Elokim and 14 being the small Gimatrya.
Indeed it is nice that 14 on 1st position, it isn't the only a-priori option, example 86th location would be more interesting for us, with the current data.
Interesting to note that the Gymatria value between the letters of the SPECIFIC arrangement of the 5 letters of Hashem with the way they make 3-1-4-1-5 in the format that is pentagonal gives a number that is called "Binah" it is what makes the letters stick one another in a specific order, it is a building-force. In any case the value is 103.
The next appearance of 14 is 103. The only reason we can give this not-a-priori number merit this time around is because we are talking about a specific off-order arrangement that gives this exact values. Do not know how much validity it has after all dilutions thought.
Also you noted that the sum of the first 14 digits = 74
You can look at it as something without probability meaning, because it isn't a-priori number. btw it is about 1:45 to get such a result.
But the probability of getting 86 at location 74 is 1:100. Yet, you need to divide it by a few options that are more a-priori.
So I think it should be around 1:25 - 1:33
maybe 1:50
Also, please note that 2701 divided by 860 is 3.14
860 = 86 * 10
Indeed the CP of creation is Nekudah, which is Yud and the CP of the triangle of the letters of the 1st verse has a CP and indeed it is the letter Yud. Which Yud? the Yud from Eloh-ym.
Have a great day! would love to hear more from you basa"d
Oren
יא מלך כמה כיף לראות שהתורה אמת. כל פעם אני מתחזק מההוכחות האלה, אבל הפעם זה השיא..
ב"ה ב"ה ב"ה!! אשריך!!
עובדים על חלק ב' כעת!
תודה רבה על התגובה שלך! שתזכה שה' יאיר לך פנים ולשמוח שמחת אמת יחד עם כל עם ישראל בע"ה!
Oren Evron,
I want to write many pages of comments that this video deserves, but instead I will leave you with one...
This is simply Stunning!
Kol Tuv
Thank you 2nd G!!
Simple and to the point!!
I thank Go-d for allowing me to find these important findings and to reveal this part-1 of the research!!!
I am very thankful that you took the time and wrote your comment, it means a lot to me!
Thank you!
May you be blessed with all the goodness, prosperity and health for you and your loved ones!!
Oren
BH you are also blessed the same,
I will add blessed with strength to deal with the incessant nonsense being put as comments by some people.
Bracha and Hatslacha! Dont Stop!
Meir
Thank you very much Meir!! b"h Naase Venazliach
Astonishing video, Mr. Oren. Thanks a lot for your accurate and thorough explaination!
Thank you very much Daniele da Roma! Your feedback means a lot to me!
These mathematical facts are of extreme importance and in my opinion, whoever sees it without being bribed to disbelieve, the conclusion is very simple and straight forward. Furthermore, this has many implications for future studies and understanding about cosmology, physics and even for math as more in-depth research reveals. We will reveal more and more of what hashem allowed me to see in part 2 and 3 etc Go-d willing.
Thank you,
Oren
Breath taking.Thank you.Praise God.
Baruch Hashem, you are welcome
Here's an interesting little fact left out of this video for some reason: 2701 is a triangular number, meaning a set of 2701 points can be arranged into an equilateral triangle. 2701 is the 73rd in the set of triangular numbers, and 2701 can also be expressed as 37 * 73. The symmetrical nature of 37*73 reminds me of the symmetrical nature of the first 628 digits of Pi after the decimal point as shown in the video. Take any one of these three numbers and the sum of the digits adds up to 10: 2+7+0+1 or 7+3 or 3+7 all equal 10, which reminds me of the 10 sefirot in Kabbalah, and the use of a base 10 number system which has metaphysical significance in so many mystical traditions. For the record, 10 is a triangular number just like 2701. None of that compares to insane info elucidated in this video though. Great work!
Thank you Jack! Very high quality comment
Indeed these facts are important, also note that 628, is 314 twice
The significance of 2701 as T73 is so big I just couldn't put it in the video and said we'll discuss the number 2701 in other videos. In part 2, which is currently being created T73 is discussed and a preliminary examination is being presented basa"d. It has very significant qualities and many findings are to be discussed basa"d.
Just one note: there is a difference between T4 (10) and T73 (2701) as the first has no CP and is a the first stand alone unit after the initial CP of creation, where as the later is the ultimate construct which is also a stand alone unit but is already much more complex Chochmah and Binah workings together and is the base for further structures and it has Central Points (CPs) all the way down to 10 and then 1.
Have a good day,
Oren
@@2701 Thanks for the response, looking forward to the next video. Is there a Kabbalistic text in particular that elaborates on the Nekuda Emtzait? You may have mentioned in the video but it I can't remember.
Thank you,
The next video is coming along b"h, though it is a Hebrew version
There are many kabbalistic texts that elaborates a great deal, the main one is (as you said) mentioned in the video is "Ets Chaim" (A, Section B) by Rabbi Chaim Vital based on the teachings of the Ariza"l
In the Statistical Significance graph at 51:19 the final two lines are 1:130 and 1:130.
They seem to be a repetition of the same phenomenon. Please correct me if I am mistaken.
But if they are indeed two separate data points, they provide an additional beautiful idea.
130 is the gematria (numerical value) of צ"מ
Twice צ"מ is צמצם )Restricted) , which is the exact description and verb used to describe the fashioning of the Nekuda Emtza'it, the Central Point of the Universe's Creation.
As explained in the video, Nekuda Emtza'it has the value 776, which is the subject of the final 2 lines of the graph
Thank you for your interesting comment,
They are 2 data points, one is From the 611th digit and the other is right After the 611th digit.
Please note that the probability of 130 is examined using a statistical model and a more exact valuation can be 130-140 therefore I wouldn't use 130 as anchor (I just tested billions of sequences and got 1 to 140)
@@2701 I understand. Thank you. I assumed that the 1:130 was not precise
You are welcome my friend and thank you
were you the narrator for this video, or did you get someone else to narrate, like with your other videos? thanks
When speaking English I get someone with better English than mine to speak
@@2701 ok
Just a quick question, does the computer check specifically for these examples or "similar" examples. For examples instead of first 82 being 2701, it's 2742 and the same thing for other categories..
Hello Peter, thank you for the quick question,
When examining p value, of phenomenon of exact precision, the same phenomenon is to be matched to get the right p value. You can either calculate it using algorithm or by using large statistical data.
Hope that answers your question,
Feel free to ask which ever question you want,
Oren
Step 1, make a video about a pseudo-scientific topic which also happens to be a very spicy topic. Step 2, sprinkle in meaningless data and big names to sound coherent and correct. Step 3, create a very enticing title(good job on that on) and promote it. Step 4, dodge any comments made on the video and repeatedly say that they haven't watched even 50% of video. Step 5, after baiting people to watch the video, you reap both the views and the watch hours. Amazingly put together.
*edit*
Don't forget to tell people not to edit their comments but to add extra ones instead to improve the viewer engagement.
Sounds like a plan. Just add a few more:
1. Don't make any commercials or money out of it
2. Invest your own money for license for music, footage etc
3. Invest alot in video production
4. Show people mathematical facts that reveal very important truths about reality and cosmology
Also: Add some letters in an foreign alphabet to make it look misterious.
lol Ivalince - if it wasn't so sad it would have been very funny...
the whole research is of the Torah!!
That foreign language is what's written in the Torah's first verse.
Don't you think it is very poor to comment without even knowing what you are commenting on?
I do.
Take care,
@@2701 smart reply😉
@@Ivalince_ That's Hebrew
Oren, GREAT WORK. Now im just wanting to get more insight on your spiritual beliefs and how it lines up with what is happening in the world today. Thanks!
I observe the Torah and try to make sure I align my world view with Torah as I want to be aligned with truth and Go-d
Current affairs seem to be in perfect match with the prophecies of the great prophets and the explanations and sins of our sages.
Hello, apparently I've heard and checked that counting 611 numbers after the decimal poinf of euler's number gives 2808, first 17 gives 77 and 17 after the 611th gives 77 again. Moreover, 611 digits after the 17th gives 2808. And if we take away 17 from that (to get the mirror image) we get 77 yet again. This is over 60% of the findings related to pi found here. Ive checked multiple times hoping that I made some errors and it seems that it is indeed true unfortunately... And quite frankly makes me doubt that the findings in pi are all that special? Unless there is a verse with 2808 gematria value or something that also has something to do with 77. Could this "invalidate" what is presented here? What are your thoughts on the findings in e? How do they compare to what is presented here?
Hello Peter,
Thank you for your comment, as usual your comments are good to read,
Well, first of all if you have a set of 611 digits equal X and 17 digits from same location equal Y and another 17 digits after the 611 digits equal Y again then the total of the 628 digits equal X+Y + what is written above and therefore the 4th finding is a mathematical necessity and not really a finding. (unlike what is found in Pi as shown in this video).
It is great to see that there is a correlation in pattern type between pi and Euler, based on the amount of digits of Small and Regular gematria values of Torah. If anything, then this further expands the mind about the root of creation in the 1st verse.
How would something like that make the mathematical facts presented here negated?
If the finding was perfectly matched, i.e 611 digits sum of 2701 and 17 sum 82, then it would be amazing and needs further investigation both for the connection between Euler and Pi and the 1st verse. Unfortunately it isn't the case and all you presented was some similarity with the type of pattern.
The probability value you are asking is: what is the probability of getting that kind of pattern without(bold emphasize) a-priori sets of sum values(!) i.e it would have been considered as "success" even if it was 2807 or 2806 or 2805 or any other number, same for the 17 digits. Only criteria that was a-priori here is the mirror image and 611/17 digits. That alone, unfortunately is not very strong in terms of statistical value.
But if it was a perfect match it would just expand and help us more with the code, it wouldn't negate it at all, if anything: strengthen what does not need to be strengthened.
More over, we have seen here the squared digits and the matches with Nekudah and CP etc, all are perfect matches.
By the way, code of creation part 2 is in Hebrew only, but maybe you should watch it anyway
Have a great day basa"d
Oren
@@2701 thank you for your quick and reasonable responses. I have watched some portions of the part 2, but given your suggestion I will check all of it now. Have a great day!
ישר כוייח!
זיכוי הרבים גדול מאוד ברכה והצלחה!
תודה רבה דניאל ולטמן - משתדלים ב"ה!!
אנשים רבים דיווחו בכל מני דרכים שהם אף חוזרים בתשובה לאחר התבוננות מעמיקה בעובדות האלו - ב"ה!! מודה לה' יום יום שנתן לי את האפשרות לחשוף את הדברים האלו ולהציגם ובע"ה נמשיך ונצליח!! יש עוד הרבה מאד חומר!!
שתזכה לכל הברכות הטובות, כל הישועות וההצלחות, אהבה ונחת לך ולכל עם ישראל בע"ה!
בברכה,
אורן
@@2701 אני נולדתי לבית חילוני הכי רחוק מהיהדות!
ב"ה אני גילתי את האמת לבד לגמרי ללא שום הדרכה! אני מתחזק כבר מגיל 5 היום אני בן 16 ב"ה שומר תורה ומצוות חבדניק בדם ואוהב את הבורא בכל הלב והנשמה שלי אין עוד מלבדו!!!!!
ואני מאוד מעריך את עבדותך לזיכוי וקירוב הרחוקים.
בעז"ה יתברך נזכה לראות בהתגלות משיח צדקינו תכף ומיד ממש!
אשריך אשריך דניאל!!! מחמם את הלב לקרוא את הודעתך!! מקווה שנזכה לגאולה שלמה ומלאה במהרה מתוך רחמים אהבה ושמחה יחד עם כל עם בני ישראל בע"ה בקרוב מאד מאד!!
@@דניאלולטמן ואווווווו מדהים כל הכבוד לך ♥️♥️♥️♥️
හොද ගුරුවරයෙක්
Thank you b"h
Shalom, I would like to watch the second part if possible.... would you please share it with me?
Here is a link for you, but unfortunately it's in Hebrew, we do not have an English version
ruclips.net/video/TeqDs1Y3gKA/видео.html
985 dislikes was because 985 people pressed the wrong like button
nice one
Oren, It might just be incidental, but I couldn't help but notice that 2701 and 82 both render the number 10...perhaps the ten Utterances? Probably I am reaching, but it did pop out (lol), in a manner of speaking. I'd appreciate your thoughts on this. Thanks, Oren.
It is not incidental, once the regular Gimatria is 10 the small Gimatria will follow, yet the number of letters is also 28 which is 10, and there are 10 statements and they call come from the root of wisdom, the point, the main point of creation. we are humans are not able to grasp something that has no shape or location etc, therefore the initial wisdom men can grasp is called a point it is the basic structure of everything and it is a location in space, so both are being sophisticatedly created at the same time.
The letter that represents the point is called YUD which is 10 and ultimately it is 1 in small gimatria.
This is the POINT of creation from which the 10 statements come from in the form of the 10 sefirot
@@2701 Toda, my friend, yes, I see-- your answer gave answered my question and much more!
It's one way to see, there are so many ways. It's subjective. The vedic civilisation got another version. Let's be humble.
Hello Ajay,
What is subjective? Would you care to address the actual mathematical findings, or the probability calculations and show what you mean?
Being humble means to actually check the validity of what you are saying and not to just assume you got it right, without even watching the video or addressing the facts.
oren evron no being humble is accepting that Ajay here has his opinion and you have yours, you’re just being an arrogant ass saying that you’re right and everyone else is wrong
LOL drifter - Oh the irony
You say this after you, with your complete arrogance came here and said it is all nothing without even watching the video
Humble doesn't mean to accept everything, humble means to accept truth, because truth is above you. When you accept everything you accept lies and then you put yourself ABOVE the truth. That is arrogance !!!!
oren evron here I did it for you:
Humble: “having or showing a modest or low estimate of one's importance.”
Literally nothing to do with accepting your batshit truth. You’re just an arrogant asshole demanding everyone stroke your ego
אשריכם צדיקים‼️
ברוך השם ברוך שמו! תודה רבה אשריכם אתם על התגובה היפה ב"ה
קידוש ה' עצום, תבורך אורן.
ב"ה תודה רבה מתן, משתדל !
בע"ה תבורך בכל הדברים הטובים, שגשוג, נחת, הגשמה עצמית ועוד!
The information in this video will shatter the normal conception of this world/universe and each of our lives, moving the viewer to a higher level of consciousness. Ultimately--it could take a couple of centuries--informaiton such as this will force science to consider what I call "The Forbidden Hypothesis"--ie, the existence of a creator. When that happens, we will be an advanced civilization.
כל הכבוד על הסרטון באמת❤
אבל אתה ישראלי?
כן, תודה רבה ב"ה
אני ישראלי ויש גם גרסה בעברית:
ruclips.net/video/bMD8fQuX1N4/видео.html
יש הרבה אנשים שלא יודעים עברית שביקשו תרגום
יש כתוביות בעברית לסרט הזה, מי שזה אל עובד לו שיפעילו את זה על ידי לחיצה על המלבן מצד ימין למטה
ויש גם גרסה בעברית ב"ה:
ruclips.net/video/bMD8fQuX1N4/видео.html
@@2701 רציתי לכתוב את זה ליאיר להסביר לו שבסרטון בעברית אנשים שלא ידעו עברית רצו תרגום באנגלית
תודה לך
Very well done and informative. Thanks for all that you poured into putting this video together. Amazing!
Thank you for your great feedback dear Ross N,
May you be blessed with all goodness basa"d
Great video! Is there a part 2 out yet?
Hello Truth Wins, indeed part 2 is out, but Hebrew only at the moment:
ruclips.net/video/TeqDs1Y3gKA/видео.html
YO! i have no idea why but im here. i am jewish, i do speak hebrew. its epic. keep it up BOI
Thank you! May Hashem bless you with all goodness
כל הכבוד קידוש שם שמיים
ב"ה - ברוך שמו! תודה רבה
בע"ה תזכו לכל הברכות הטובות
I will admit I havent watched the full video. But I will say that by the 5 minute mark you have jumped from pi and its use in geometry to its use in statistics...and have stated that due to that equation and the bell curve...every population and behavior of humans and animals are explained.....I'm sorry to say that no....its not. Human behavior is cause and effect as is animal behavior which is psychology and sociology and biology, not math and physics. I will edit as I watch and explain my critique as I go. At the 8 minute mark now, you jump from pi being used by the babylonians and Egyptians to the first words in genesis to god using the Torah as a blue print for the world. I'm christian. Not Jewish so idk how the story of the torah goes but in the bible it states god gave instructions to one of jesus's disciples on what to write into it and the history of the universe. So since you're using the torah I know itll be a bit different but the torah covers the same topics as the bibles old testament because they are both abrahamic religions, so I'm gonna go with you are connecting dots between scripture and math that are no where near one another.
9 minute mark, it feels like you took convenient letters out of a phrase to come up with 7 then made sure it added to your 22. Which is what the egyptions you say used to come up with pi, 22/7, but you also stated a few minutes ago involving the egyptions that they got that wrong by a digit, coming to 3.16 not 3.14. So which is it? Where they wrong or right? And you can do with with any statement, not just the one you chose in your video. I'm sure there's a phrase in alice in wonderland you can do this with as well and connect pi to the fact Lewis Carol was high off acid.
Thank you for your comment and I'm looking forward for your next "edits" or comments. I rather you add new comments and not edit. That way people can see what you said in what order.
I NEVER EVER said that "every population and behavior of humans and animals are explained"!!!! what I did say is that such human behavior in many ways goes by the same normal distribution, which is observational fact
www.usablestats.com/lessons/normal
@@2701 but that has nothing to do with pi and throws the viewer for a loop. Like yeah you can observe more people live I cities than in suburbs but the reason for that is more than statistics and math.
@@2701 also, not editing it really. Just didnt want to clog the comment section so I'm just adding more I fo to my comment.
Yea, add comments here, that's the way to do it.
The normal distribution is mathematically linked to Pi. It's just a simple math fact.
Anyway, I would like to see your comments on the actual research and findings,
Thank you,
Oren
For that reason.... I’m Out...
ברוך ה'.
כל הכבוד♥️
הכל מה', ב"ה ברוך שמו!
תזכו כל הברכות הטובות בע"ה,
בברכה,
אלוף
ברוכים תהיו!
What I simply do not understand here is how letters are randomly assigned numbers, can anyone explain?
Hello Brook Book,
The Numerical System of the Torah is known for thousands of years.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gematria
There are 22 letters in the Alpha Beit and the system is like this:
א = 1
ב = 2
ג = 3
ד = 4
ה = 5
ו = 6
ז = 7
ח = 8
ט = 9
י = 10
At this point, the values go +10
כ = 20
ל = 30
מ = 40
נ = 50
ס = 60
ע = 70
פ = 80
צ = 90
ק = 100
At this point, the values go +100
ר = 200
ש = 300
ת = 400
There is also a much less common use of last letters that continues until 900 for the end letters
It's like A is 1 B is two etc. In Hebrew it goes to ten and then goes to 10, 20, 30 etc
Hebrew is called after Aber, Noah's descent who kept and taught the forgoten language after the flood.
It was always called the holy original language God created the world with
The letters are mathematical and energetical code, encrypt to every letter.
And it's why reality is mathematical in its nature
Also why the Tora must be read 24/7
Thank you so much for an amazing video with incredible insight. This has really made my day, and will continue to inspire my love for the creator moving forwards. Thanks again! God bless.
can I share on fb? ...looks like a lot of fun checking out the links!
Sure
מדהיםםםםם כל הכבוד אשרייך! תודה שאתה מפיץ את האמת בעולם תודה!!!!!!
מדהים .תורה משמיים.
חד משמעית, ישתבח שמו לעד!!!
שתזכה בע"ה לכל הברכות הטובות, כל הישועות וההצלחות, נחת בכל, שגשוג והגשמה עצמית!!!
אורן
Don't waste and hour of your life, God wouldn't approve... By the way, as usual with this sort of "theories", it's just a numeric mess without any sense. If you want to find weird numerical coincidences, you will always find them everywhere. Peace.
Daniele, your comment, where you didn't watch the video, yet your pre-suppose everything shows everyone how important it is to actually watch the video.
You just assume whatever you like and through your assumptions on others via public comments?
@@2701 I saw enough, trust me. Pick any other number and I'll find you hundreds of ways to combine it in the label of my t-shirt. This video is yet another attempt to make people believe in something invisible. Like in the past 2000 years, taking advantage of people low IQs and critical thinking (or their young age, of course). Go on like that, congratulations.
Daniele, did you even see the video?
Because what you are saying requires the ability to switch data which is impossible for these mathematical facts. There isn't enough such wiggle room and Professor of Mathematics Daniel Michelson for example examined if "wiggle room" can explain away these facts. He found it that these findings cannot be explained with such wiggle room.
If you want rational conversation please address the actual findings and show how what you said could be accomplished. You will see that rationally it is impossible. Only a person who did not examine the data would think this way unless he goes to irrational thinking. Therefore my question: did you even see the video?
(I mean from start to finish)
Cheers,
Oren
@@simonesolazzo2320 Totally agree with you. The Torah is not a mathematical text book (not that this is math). The Torah is much more than these calculations. I appreciate the hard work and the time the creator of the video has devoted he really think this is the right thing to do. Anyway I think is better that we won't waste our time on this conversation and return to prove Fermat's last theorem.
The verse's value is 2701 and it is the first verse of the Torah which is 611. So this is not arbitrary at all. Furthermore, once we see that the same methodology repeats, any such wiggle rooms are obsolete. In reality it is repeated and the probability for it to happen by random (using the same methodology and having these perfect matches) is extremely minuscule.
Que hermoso sus Videos 😊❤
Thank you, Barcuh Hashem!
By the way "Pi" is very similar to פה!
If there is such a code, humanity shouldn’t try to play God. There’s always a price to be paid by doing such things.
100%
you wrote in one comment that there are a number of big scientists that when asked how could evolution be true if it doesn't add up mathematically they just answered something like this "if not for evolution how do we explain how everything came into being". Can you reference me any sources to that which also have there names ?.
answersingenesis.org/evidence-against-evolution/probability/does-evolution-have-a-chance/
@@2701 thank you very much. its an important link.
You are very welcome
I changed the url, to a better one
Oren you are an amazing person doing amazing work for Ha"Shem -is Oren Evron your real name? Your humility not to promote yourself but the Glory of Ha'Shem and His Torah is rare indeed. What is your full time profession if I may ask... לשׁון חכמים תיטיב דעת
Thank you my friend for your kind words and may hashem bless you and your family b"h. B"h we are doing Hishtadlut and G-od willing - truth will be revealed more and more, working on part-2 now! and yes it is my name
סרטון מדהים. מאוד אהבתי
תודה - ב"ה ! משתדלים!
בע"ה בלי נדר נעשה גם חלק 2 וחלק 3 וכן הלאה, יש חומר רב מאד לחשוף ב"ה!
שתזכה לכל טוב ומכל טוב בע"ה! מודה לך שהקדשת מזמנך להוסיף תגובה
82 = 10 (8+2), 2701 = 10 (2+7+0+1). 10 can be the 10 commandments. 10 is also 1 (1+0) which means 1 G-d. 2701 read backwards is 10 - 72. 10 commandments - 72 names of G-d. Or 1 G-d, 72 names.
It all goes back to 1 and 10 because it is the Yud that is the center point, the Yud of Shem Elokim.
You can actually see it when you make T7 (Sum of all numbers 1 to 7) for the letters of the first verse, which is 28, the center point is Yud of Elokim and around it you get 611 which is the Torah and around that you will get the limiting factor 2080 which is the Triangle of Din
Some of what I just wrote are the findings of Rabbi Ginsburg
interesting. and the 10 commandments were given in 2 groups - 2 by G-d and 8 by Moses
Bruh 10(8+2)=10*8+10*2=80+20=100≠82 so idk where you learned your math but it’s wrong it’s even more confusing than this video
Simone, no one is saying that 10 sum is unique, and there was no statistical significant presented here, you are pushing an opened door and feel great about yourself as if you defeated others and showed ignorance, (which shouldn't make you feel so good either btw, but that's your problem) while in fact you showed nothing but your own ignorance and arrogance. This is repeated time and time again by you.
A true eye-opener!
Thank you very much for adding your comment!!
You might also want to see Professor Haim Shore's research:
ruclips.net/video/QvKlP7hEo-Q/видео.html
🍀🕎🍀
14:40 wow, that is just crazy insane accurate.
Part 2 here yet?
Not yet, my production on part 2 was interrupted, but I will resume working on it b"h bli neder asap
וואוו תודה רבה על סרטון יפה 💓
בשמחה רבה ב"ה - משתדלים!
בע"ה תזכי לכל הברכות וההצלחות והדברים הטובים!! שגשוג, אושר, נחת והגשמה עצמית!!
Wonderful!
"This video is made available to the public out of thankfulness to the Creator of RUclips". This would be more accorate.
Pd: the title in Hebrew has any purpose? Or just to give an aura of misticism like "ooooh is telling me the truth and has letters that I don't understand, this has to be real".
Reading such comments make one realize just how sad the situation is.
The letters you see there are the 1st verse of the Torah, if you bother watching the video you are commenting on, you would have seen these letters in the video many times.
Ahhh,
Yet another red herring from someone who didn't even watch what he is criticizing...
Cheers,
Amazing! Thank you
You are very much welcome and thank you as well for commenting!
אמת תורתינו הקדושה‼️
I am just.. confused for why PI is so important. There are many mathematical and physical constants, some arguably more important than PI. PI is just a ratio in the circle. actually, this ratio could've been defined differently (as circ/radius) and be 2PI, which will ruin this whole thing. To me PI feels very arbitrary; why not e, or the golden ratio, or the planck constants, or the constant of gravitation (to give a few)?
Thank you RonTheHuman for your good question - adding like to it
Firstly why would one think e does not appear in the first verse? The fact we just saw Pi does not exclude the Golden ratio or e etc. In fact they are related as well.
The value of pi as the ratio to the diameter is predefined and is used this way all around the Earth, it cannot be said that it has been defined this way for these matches to occur. Therefore even if Pi is "arbitrary" it wouldn't negate the research or dilute the probability as it is predefined this way.
Why Pi specifically is related to the creation of the universe?
1. Pi is at the basic structure of geometry
2. Pi appears in many formula of physics and in the normal distribution
3. The first verse is predefined by Judaism to be the main verse of the creation of the world from scratch from a singular completely rounded central point in space.
Thank you,
Cheers,
Oren
P.S
You can read more about why Pi is defined this way and not another way here:
www.quora.com/Why-did-mathematicians-choose-Pi-to-be-the-ratio-of-the-circumference-to-diameter-of-a-circle-instead-of-circumference-to-radius
ישר כח אורן, כל הסרטים שלך צריכים להיות מתורגמים לאנגלית.
אשריך, בע"ה יהיו עוד ועוד תכנים גם באנגלית. מלאכת ההפקה לוקחת משאבים רבים אבל זה שווה את זה ב"ה
"Incredible" mathemical statistics and connections can be found almost everywhere if you reach far enough.
Not to mention some, of your findings are based off of the wrong assumption that our human mathematical system is the only possible mathematical system.
Hello,
Yes, if you have enough wiggle room you can find many things.
This is not the case, as we are talking about a specific location and specific connection. Namely: the most famous book in the history of mankind, it's very first verse which is predefined to be the main statement of the creator in creating the world from a completely rounded point from scratch.
As for mathematics, I do not need to prove anything about math itself, we don't know of other math and therefore that can't dilute the probability obviously.
Thank you,
Oren
Thank you.
You are welcome ! b"h
🍀🕎🍀
The 1st Pasuk that equals creation is 22/7 which equals: 3.14... Furthermore, Hashem's merciful name equals 26. So 26/7 is 3.714...... which perhaps means when Hashem added his mercy to creation, the number 7 was added to the result. Does this mean anything because 7 is a very important number in Judaism?
Hello Jake,
Thank you for your comment
The most merciful name of Hashem is E-l (א-ל) meaning 31 which are the 2 first numerals of Pi, then Shakay (ש.ד.י) has 3 numerals of Pi 314 and these 2 appear together many times.
The name you refer to is the noun name it contains everything and it is indeed name of mercy but mostly tifeeret.
There is a strong connection between that name and the number 7, we might discuss it some other time
@@2701 Very Interesting! Thank you so much for replying
You are welcome dear Jake and thank you as well
Oh boy this couldn't have been advertised to a worse person. There was not a single point made in this video that cannot be explained by backwards reasoning, evaluating with the end result as a prescribed goal in mind, random chance, or just being uneducated.
Hello and thank you for adding a comment,
Please go ahead and regard the first 3 mathematical facts and their probabilities to prove your point...
The first proof i see is about adding the values of the letters to return pi. Which according to the video is significant due to the circular nature of the universe because god divided across all sides evenly. This statement could should be used for a sphere with different calculations behind it. but let's grant the circle.
First of all, the sentence used is arbitrary. Any other sentence could have been picked. But this one has been picked with the wanted result in mind.
Then the calculation made. Why add all the numbers. Why not multiply the numbers, string them or add the numbers for all the letters in the words instead of just the first ones? Arbitrarily picked.
Thirdly the values of the letters are arbitrary. There is nothing special about the order the letters in the alphabet are in, and therefore the number Pi is not special in this context either.
The points above go for nearly every "statistic" made in this video. I will not elaborate on the rest because it will take too long. I am merely replying to hopefully alert others to the faulty reasoning made in this video.
Kind regards,
jeffrooow. Thank you very much.
Thank you for your comment
You wrote: "The first proof i see is about adding the values of the letters to return pi. Which according to the video is significant due to the circular nature of the universe because god divided across all sides evenly. This statement could should be used for a sphere with different calculations behind it. but let's grant the circle. "
Answer:
Pi is as important for a circle and for a sphere. In the next pages there is discussion about sphere as well. But again for "pi" it will not matter as this constant value is important for both. So this point is pointless.
You wrote:
"First of all, the sentence used is arbitrary. Any other sentence could have been picked. But this one has been picked with the wanted result in mind. "
Answer:
No, my dear friend, this is not an arbitrary verse. it is the very first verse. if this was the 1171th verse your point would start to make sense and you could dilute the probability by 1171. However, again since this is the first verse this claim is baseless.
Furthermore, this specific verse is the verse that a-priori thousands of years ago Jewish scholars regarded as the main verse of creation and on top of that, this is the verse in discussion a-priority with the reference of the initial creation from a singular point from Kaballah hundreds of years ago, well before the computer/modern age.
Next you wrote:
"Then the calculation made. Why add all the numbers. Why not multiply the numbers, string them or add the numbers for all the letters in the words instead of just the first ones? Arbitrarily picked."
Answer:
The most basic mathematical form is adding, it is what you teach your kids first, after counting which is not a mathematical action. So this is the most a-priory method of inquiry. However, if you insist, you may dilute by 2 the probability even though it isn't rational because of the order of a-priori list of such examinations. Furthermore, multiplying would usually result in big numbers, which means you cannot get the average of Pi almost never, therefore you cannot dilute it by "2 but rather by much much less as such act would have much lower probability.
You wrote:
"Thirdly the values of the letters are arbitrary. There is nothing special about the order the letters in the alphabet are in, and therefore the number Pi is not special in this context either."
Answer:
The values of the Hebrew Alphabet are known for thousands of years. Therefore you cannot accuse the researcher for switching the values arbitrarily. This point is once again: false.
Thank you very much for adding this comment,
It is important to see the answers to such claim as the claims themselves before actually looking at what's in front of you are important and make sense. However this research is a very serious research and has been examined by well known experts of math and science.
Thank you,
Oren
@@2701 you kind of made a mistake in your explaination by admitting to fit the calculation to the wanted result in the following sentence: multiplying would usually result in big numbers, which means you can almost never get the average of pi because it will have a lower probability. Here you just admitted to fitting the calculation to the wanted solution.
וואו
do you even think it would be possible for aliens to generate a verse with such findings?
Once we see part 2 the answer will be a definite: no!!
@@2701 now im even more excited for it
Working on it!! takes much longer than anticipated, but it's progressing ! b"h
@@2701 yay
@@2701 i still would like to know more about what part 2 contains
at 56:05 the letters ח, ו, & ת are spelled weirdly with a yud. ive never seen that before. are those realy accurate ways to spell those letters?
For some reason the reply I sent was stuck and got wiped out of youtube.
Anyway, yes these are all valid spellings and you can see the valid spelling and statistical significance of this incredible finding at the end notes.
Have a great day,
Oren
@@2701 ok thanks
Go-d... Dude, just say God... I know you shouldn't say the word "God" in vain... but seriously... this is the internet, just say God. lmao no need for formalities, im a christian myself, and we always say the full word c'mon XD
Elokim=god
Teva=nature
Same numerical value
Hateva = 86 = Elokim
Yes, Go-d as the creator of the world is called Elokim, the one who poses and holds all the forces of nature, the judgement of structure
But If its Stolen the Story from Sumerian.. can IT be from God?? I dont know what to believe is ther even an after Life ?😢 I grew Up jewish and i stopped Praying i have Problems with my health with just 30 years.. can god heal me through the Torah.. can you tell me a Psalm for healing i dont know the tehilim with Psalm i should look please help me.
Hello,
We are addressing the findings presented in the video, any comment on them?
A. Not stolen from Sumerian. Whatever they knew and believe they wrote, some of it is true and therefore some of it appears in Torah as well, like the flood, which was recorded by many cultures around the world. That is... because it happened.
As for healing, it depends on the Cause of the illnesses, causes that can be identified and removed, will lead to cure. So you need to learn it thoroughly or go to someone who has, like Rabbi Asherov.
Have a good day basa"d
רגע רגע רגע אז אתה מבין עברית כאילו?
You know hebrew?
אז מה הסרטון בא להגיד? מאיפה התחילה הבריאה?
Please answer!
What the video is going to talk about. what do you wanna say, in simpel words please?
צפית בסרט? עד לאיפה הגעת?
הסרט מראה כיצד התחילה בריאת היקום על פי תורת הקבלה ופשט התורה, בסרט מוצגות עובדות מתמטיות עם התאמה בין הפסוק הראשון בתורה, הפסוק המרכזי של בריאת היקום ובפרט התחלתו לבין הספרות של הקבוע המתמטי פאי למאות ספרות אחרי הנקודה העשרונית. ארכימדס גילה 2 ספרות אחרי הנקודה העשרונית והתורה קדמה לארכימדס בהרבה מאד זמן.
לכן, כאשר רואים התאמות כאלו ומבחן ההיסתברות מראה ש"מזל" או "אקראיות" לא יכול להסביר את ההתאמות אז ברור ש"מישהו" עשה את זה. מי המישהו הזה?
כתוב בפסוק הראשון עצמו: בראשית ברא א-ל-ה-י-ם את השמים ואת הארץ,
פשוט וברור,
מי שרוצה, יבוא ויראה, יבחן ויבדוק ומי שלא - עניין שלו
בברכה רבה,
אורן
@@2701 דילגתי לקטע של אתוהים ברא את השמים ואת הארץ וגם שם וגם בהתחלה לא הבנתי
מציע לצפות מההתחלה ועד הסוף בע"ה
אם יהיו לך שאלות לאחר מכן, תכתוב ואשמח לענות כפי יכולתי בע"ה בל"נ
כל טוב,
@@2701 ישר כוח אחי על ההשקעה❤
כל הכבוד
הכל מה', יתברך שמו לעד!
תודה רבה שמצאת את הזמן להוסיף תגובה אילון, שתזכה לכל הברכות, כל הישועות, נחת, שגשוג ואהבה בע"ה!
Dorime
@@yehudashayer7828 latire
Wow! Beautiful!
Thank you for adding your comment traxler!
People sometimes reduce the meaning of adding positive comments and we are left only with those who really like to... do the opposite.
The good comments add a lot to the atmosphere, and they show people what's really going on with the viewers - it is zikuy harabim
Thank you again, it means a lot to me and fuels this "operation" of revealing the truth
Thank you again,
May Hashem blesses you with every goodness possible, health prosperity and self fulfillment!
Thank you,
Oren
TLDR please?
Here is a summary with some of the findings presented, in a squeezed post made by Professor Haim Shore:
haimshore.blog/2020/01/17/linkage-between-torah-first-verse-and-pi-some-of-evrons-findings/
וואו איזה יופי של סירטון
ישתבח שמו!! תודה רבה על שהוספת תגובה אריאל,
משתדלים ב"ה!!
זה היה חלק א' ובע"ה בל"נ נוציא סרטי המשך - יש כמות עצומה של ממצאים שצריך לחשוף בע"ה!!!!
שתזכה לכל הברכות הטובות, כל הישועות וההצלחות, אהבה, שמחה, נחת, שגשוג ועוד בע"ה!!
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@@2701 מחכה בקוצר רוח לחלק ב
בע"ה נעשה ונצליח!!
In Hebrew:
A in Adam stands for Afer meaning dust.
D in Adam stands for Daam meaning blood.
M stands for Mayim meaning water.
Thus Adam (man) is made from dust, blood, water.
Not true. Afar written with letter Ain, Adam with letter Aleph
So your "creator" looked at the Torah, & then made everything whereas before there had only been " light"?
Have I got that right?
Then please explain to me where the Torah came from if there was only "light" & who wrote it???
Hello Phillip,
It's not "my creator" it is our creator,
Before the world was created there was no world, and the "infinite light" is a proverb for Go-d, meaning, the infinite one. So before there was the universe there was only the infinite one (Which he is not light but for the proverb light is being used) and the Torah is called "Orayta" meaning light with instructions, so these instructions were made by the creator before creating the universe. This is to create fundamental metaphysical layer for the creation.
Now,
Would you address the mathematical facts presented?
oren evron. No, because I am not a mathematician. But Ido understand that numbers can create an appearance of something, that doesn't exist.
I see, so you want to dismiss mathematical facts and not address simple truths
It's your choice, the will is free - do as you please,
Have a good day,
Cheers,
oren evron. You deal in a field belonging to the sciences. So who is right, you the mathematician, or at the least a person who uses the instrument of mathematics, numbers, to illustrate your hypothesis, or the scientists who propose the "big bang" theory? 🤔.👋.
You didn't watch the video did you?
There is no discrepancy between the "Big bang" theory and the mathematical facts presented. in fact, we see direct evidence for the universe to start from singularity, a single point in space.
I suggest sitting down and watching the video
Do as you please, as your will is free
Have a good day,
Oren
"You see, the puddle fits perfectly in that whole, so it the puddle must have been made by some sentient being"
lol the puddle fits perfectly in that hole because it has to, i.e statistical value of 1 to 1.
But when someone goes to his house and clicks on the code for his door a code of 8 digits and he got it perfectly right and the door opens, he must have known the code.
@@2701 The dude who got the code correct could've been guessing for around 2000 years (or whenever the Torah was made) till he got it right then the passerby would have no reason not to believe he knew the code. Just because something managed to click, doesn't mean the answers are definitive. There's always more than meets the eye, and we will probably never definitively know the answer to whether or not someone even knew the code in the first place. Not trying to poke holes in your argument, just offering another perspective. I respect the effort you went through in this theory, but I don't think it simply qualifies enough as a damning answer.
EDIT: And I don't think anything can or will be able to qualify as a clear answer to what's really going on. Maybe we weren't meant to have one.
Hello evorm,
Hundreds of numerals of Pi after the decimal point were not known until the age of computers.
The text is written and cannot be changed: from thousands of years ago.
Therefore this argument is false
@@2701 Have you discarded completely coincidence?
That's a fallacy,
You don't need to discard "coincidence" completely, you just need to have it more probable for one way than the other significantly
In science 5% (1 to 20) is enough for many publications. and 1 to 100 is well respected.
Here are talking about 1 to 10,000,000,000,000,000 therefore it is well above what's needed
Even a DNA test of your own mother would most definitely wouldn't be as significant as this
In statistical hypothesis testing, a result has statistical significance when it is very unlikely to have occurred given the null hypothesis. More precisely, a study's defined significance level, denoted by, is the probability of the study rejecting the null hypothesis, given that the null hypothesis were assumed to be true; and the p-value of a result, is the probability of obtaining a result at least as extreme, given that the null hypothesis were true. The result is statistically significant, by the standards of the study, when . The significance level for a study is chosen before data collection, and is typically set to 5%
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_significance
Thank you very much, thank you again
Baruch Hashem - you are very welcome!
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ברוך השם!!!!!
isn't this (gematria, zohar, etc.) forbidden torah study for gentiles? thanks
Are there Torah lessons in English on RUclips? Are there books in English that everyone can buy?
What's not allowed is to study the oral Torah and Halachah or in-depth Kaballah study as a Chevrutah.
Conclusion, the kind of Torah information appearing in this video is allowed.
Shabbat Shalom b"h
@@2701 i thought it applied to all "gemara"
Chevrutah of Gamarah is forbidden yeah
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ישתבח שמו לעד!!!
ברכה והצלחה בכל מכל כל בע"ה!
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please make more!!!
Thank you very much for your feedback! I do want to continue making more b"h!!! There are so many more important findings to show the world, it's amazing!! Thank you again, may hashem blesses you with all goodness
@@2701 may Hashem bless you in everything as well!
when do you plan to have another one
Thank you! b"h
I am hoping to release it before Pessach b"h bli neder
maybe much sooner, I don't know yet
@@2701 yay!