Recycled Disney Animation Compilation #3

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  • Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
  • The third installment of my most popular series is here at last! It's a bit shorter than the previous two, but you know what they say, simple yet effective!
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  • @TheChildofAuraReborn
    @TheChildofAuraReborn 3 года назад +3815

    I'm at least 95% sure that the Princess and the Frog is more of a callback than a trace.

    • @wiictvchannel1112
      @wiictvchannel1112 3 года назад +59

      I agree. Especially considering that the Sword in the Stone is a lesser known movie, and probably that scene in particular.

    • @lol-ot4pn
      @lol-ot4pn 3 года назад +9

      @@wiictvchannel1112
      I dont know if Using the argument thats its lesser known is good logic to disprove tracing.
      All the more reason they did it because no one would most likely notice.

    • @bruhkan457
      @bruhkan457 3 года назад +9

      @@lol-ot4pn I don't think it's tracing. They look really different other than the characters doing the same pose

    • @JesusChrist-sm4bm
      @JesusChrist-sm4bm 3 года назад +5

      Yhea. Because you know how hard it is to take Cell animations and then Scan it. And put it into you digital program (I swear That's the hardest part) to Then trace it

    • @wiictvchannel1112
      @wiictvchannel1112 3 года назад +3

      @@bruhkan457 That's what I was thinking. It's obviously very similar but different at the same time.

  • @jwheeler1106
    @jwheeler1106 3 года назад +5200

    I mean Disney does get a lot of flack for doing this in the 60s and 70s but animation is a very laborious process so you can understand a desire to maximize time and effort when putting stuff out there.

    • @kurvos
      @kurvos 3 года назад +137

      Which is ironic, because this method they ended up using because they were told to just ended up being MORE time-consuming and wasteful than it would have been NOT to do it.

    • @markushaahr9194
      @markushaahr9194 3 года назад +89

      @@kurvos yeah exactly, they had to go all the way through the vault to find these pieces of a paper, and it would’ve saved them just drawing up something new

    • @ron4202
      @ron4202 3 года назад +7

      Also, don't they have a lot of money lol

    • @calvingoshe7588
      @calvingoshe7588 3 года назад +84

      @@ron4202 they used to not be the world dominating destroyer of worlds they are now. In the earlier days of disney they were cramped into tiny spaces. So Walt Disney said to just reuse the cells and backgrounds thinking it would be cheaper in an effort to make budgets better. In all reality it just took longer to paint over and copy than it would to make something entirely unique.

    • @Sophia-cy5pm
      @Sophia-cy5pm 3 года назад +39

      Yeah Disney was a much smaller company back then, before The Little Mermaid the Animation portion of the company wasn’t doing so good during 60/70s. Which is why you also see pencil lines in aristocrats and the rescuers to save time and money on clean up.

  • @beastmaster0934
    @beastmaster0934 3 года назад +10271

    I feel like the Princess and the Frog one was just a reference.

    • @michaelrusso906
      @michaelrusso906 3 года назад +225

      Same here

    • @liiil8492
      @liiil8492 3 года назад +334

      Same. A good reference.

    • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
      @Obi-Wan_Kenobi 3 года назад +528

      Indeed. There is no way they copied animation from 50 years ago, the Princess and the Frog scene was surely original and just referenced the previous scene.

    • @makim_
      @makim_ 3 года назад +15

      Yep

    • @explosionmage
      @explosionmage 3 года назад +225

      They didn’t use cell animation in princess in the frog therefore it has to be a reference because they wouldn’t use cell animation for just one scene.

  • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
    @Obi-Wan_Kenobi 3 года назад +1475

    Some of these aren't recycled, they're either just very similar or a reference to an earlier piece of work. There is is no way the Princess and the Frog, a film that used modern digital technology, recycled animation from 50 years ago, simply no way.

    • @jerryalexis576
      @jerryalexis576 3 года назад +45

      Definitely a reference on The Princess and the Frog

    • @anyaisma4878
      @anyaisma4878 3 года назад +5

      Yeah, if they did they would have at least done more than one scene

    • @pussylover3000
      @pussylover3000 3 года назад +6

      Can you timestamp the princess and the frog one? I literally rewatched it twice and don't see anything
      Edit: nvm found it, it's in the thumbnail

    • @beatrizferraz593
      @beatrizferraz593 3 года назад +4

      they don't do references, they copy one to another since it was easier at the time

    • @paper7272
      @paper7272 3 года назад +3

      Thank you obi wan

  • @The_Hylian_Likely
    @The_Hylian_Likely 3 года назад +891

    Not all of these are straight up recycled. But it's been proven that Disney did this back in the 60s, 70s and 80s, or what was called the Disney Dark Ages. It's why animators like Don Bluth ended up leaving and went on to make their own studio. Production was more important than artistic expression, and Disney animators were forced to cut corners by recycling old work.

    • @pussylover3000
      @pussylover3000 3 года назад +34

      The reason they were forced is the time limit. The directors/bosses/managers whatever had a strict and short due date so the animators were usually forced or just had no other choice

    • @madamemystica
      @madamemystica 3 года назад +9

      @@pussylover3000 saddest fact is how it's still happening, look what happened to frozen 2

    • @pussylover3000
      @pussylover3000 3 года назад +15

      @@madamemystica mhm. Its so sad that they still haven't learnt that a movie can take longer, yet be better quality. And it's not like they're a tiny group, with barely any money and 2 animators, that need to rush themselves so they can get cash asap. They're a multimillion company that has dozens of animators and can take it easy and just give them time, as they literally still have money.

    • @belfreak_386
      @belfreak_386 3 года назад +8

      @@pussylover3000 That’s the thing, Disney doesn’t care anymore all that matters is how much money they can get out of it because it’s Disney they literally put live action remakes of their old popular films instead of making new stories.
      Disney is all about chasing more and more money, they don’t care if their movies could be better or not as long as it gives them money then that’s all it matters.

    • @ihatelife5464
      @ihatelife5464 3 года назад +5

      @@madamemystica and look what happened to The Lion King (2019 Remake).

  • @villalobosedwin1214
    @villalobosedwin1214 3 года назад +5020

    A lot of these aren’t recycled, just really similar to each other.

    • @pepercat17
      @pepercat17 3 года назад +291

      I was just about to say the same. But the point was proven that Disney recycles animation.

    • @edizgunes
      @edizgunes 3 года назад +63

      Maybe referenced or traced?

    • @villalobosedwin1214
      @villalobosedwin1214 3 года назад +3

      @@edizgunes Possibly.

    • @Frothericweon
      @Frothericweon 3 года назад +46

      I am more than sure that this one was recycled 0:49

    • @TECfan1
      @TECfan1 3 года назад +43

      Right exactly. Like the final one with the two kiss scenes. The timing doesn't even line up and the characters are posed slightly differently.

  • @valtheemokid4005
    @valtheemokid4005 3 года назад +841

    They were basically like: I'm not reanimating that shit

    • @sanujakhanal8745
      @sanujakhanal8745 3 года назад +34

      Yeah I would say that too ngl lmao

    • @TheLorivas
      @TheLorivas 3 года назад +7

      I mean they can after all they animated something so they can reuse that thing y’know what I mean

    • @smokeytherat1533
      @smokeytherat1533 3 года назад +6

      Yeah, it would take hours and hours to remake it when you could just reuse something.

    • @crossfire7874
      @crossfire7874 3 года назад +2

      That the way to do it

    • @Chronowizpal
      @Chronowizpal 3 года назад +3

      My necromancer when she sees her ex:

  • @N-GinAndTonicTM
    @N-GinAndTonicTM 3 года назад +502

    I mean, is anyone genuinely surprised over this?
    Disney's animation style during the 1930's-1980's wasn't exactly the easiest, cheapest or most effective way of animating.

    • @spacetechempire510
      @spacetechempire510 3 года назад +11

      Ya the focus on quality. And I’m pretty Shure that if any film company made a standard animation they will use it. Due to its faster and most wont notice unless they where on the look out for it.

    • @N-GinAndTonicTM
      @N-GinAndTonicTM 3 года назад +4

      @@spacetechempire510
      I mean, I spent four years in Media Studies at college and came out of it with a Distinction.
      You learn to pick up on this stuff very quickly.

    • @Starfire861
      @Starfire861 3 года назад +1

      Yeah. Most of these movies were from back when all animation was done with traditional methods, and when Disney wasn’t the multi-billion mega corporation it is today.

    • @olgamandagi6438
      @olgamandagi6438 2 года назад +1

      Tarzan Taking Jane To ride on Tantor is so similar to how Aladdin is taking Jasmine to ride on his carpet.

  • @frankydman
    @frankydman 3 года назад +382

    For the curious- the whole premise of Disney “recycling” animation can actually be pinpointed to 1 individual- Wolfgang Reitherman, one of Walt’s legendary Nine Old Men. Much like how Milt Kahl became known for his “head swaggle,” Reitherman became known for reusing animation sequences. However- it wasn’t a matter of time or money in these cases- Reitherman was not one to take chances when it came to animation, and he liked using what he knew “worked,” so it wasn’t so much a “recycling” as it was a matter of using a technique called rotoscoping- a process which was no more cost effective, and could actually take longer than coming up with new stuff. But again- Reitherman liked sticking to what he knew worked, so when he took over directing duties in the 60s and 70s, that is when the “recycling” really took off.

    • @simple-commentator-not-rea7345
      @simple-commentator-not-rea7345 3 года назад +28

      Sticking to what works, and not taking chances. Sounds like it still applies to Disney today. Perhaps a little too much

    • @SirKolass
      @SirKolass 3 года назад +1

      The legendary 9

    • @imsippinteainyocomments6133
      @imsippinteainyocomments6133 3 года назад +1

      so if it aint broke dont fix it, is his moto then. which isn't that much of an upgrade from labeling it all as "traces and redraws".

    • @frankydman
      @frankydman 3 года назад +1

      @@imsippinteainyocomments6133 Its still technically not tracing though; in the words of legendary Disney Animator Homer Jonas:
      "Rotoscoping is not tracing… tracing is tracing”
      You are right though, that he probably thought that way. As Disney Legend Floyd Norman put it:
      “It’s actually harder and takes longer to redraw an existing sequence... it’s a lot faster and easier to just do new animation, and it’s a lot more fun for the animators. But Woolie liked to play it safe and use stuff he knew would work. That’s all it was.”

    • @LucyWest370
      @LucyWest370 3 года назад +1

      @@simple-commentator-not-rea7345 “sticking to what works.”
      (Releases either so-so or terrible movies)

  • @DanielLovesArt
    @DanielLovesArt 3 года назад +161

    There's a difference between recycled animation, and inspired animation. Bagira and Grumpy are two totally different creatures, you can't tell me the animation is recycled!

    • @TGMD1986
      @TGMD1986  3 года назад +20

      I'll give that one to you. Maybe there's a few others in here that aren't necessarily "recycled" so to speak, but since I already created two other compilations, It only made sense for me to include this as the third installment.
      Regardless, I think it's still a good video nonetheless, and you may call it whatever you want! 😊

    • @pumkinpatchwork
      @pumkinpatchwork 3 года назад +9

      I think they mean that the actual movement is recycled, not the frames themselves. the animators could have traced over the older frames or used the original as inspiration

    • @DanielLovesArt
      @DanielLovesArt 3 года назад +3

      @@pumkinpatchworkbut... they literally responded to this comment in a way that presents what they were meaning, and what they were meaning is not as you describe.

    • @ma.2089
      @ma.2089 3 года назад

      @@TGMD1986 perhaps retitle it? Esp considering the prevailing comments are literally just saying they aren’t recycled and it’s clickbait at this point

    • @imapicklemorty5107
      @imapicklemorty5107 3 года назад

      @@ma.2089 bro yt content creators now adays have to click bait cuz they can't make actual that's their own they have to clickbait or steal content and say its theirs and im not saying this youtuber did that but he did click clickbait and didn't do his research properly

  • @ladylynx9891
    @ladylynx9891 3 года назад +283

    Cheesus people, you took the word "recycling" way too personally. The same studios MADE the original too, is in their OWN archives, copying from yourself isn't a crime, it's just smart as hell if you want to save extra time. So it's _right_ to say they're recycled, doesn't make the artists involved less talented, and the uploader isn't criticising anyone.

    • @TGMD1986
      @TGMD1986  3 года назад +42

      Thank you for the shout-out. I honestly couldn't care less what the viewers prefer to call it. As long as they take their time out to watch the video while simultaneously learning about the big picture, I'm more than happy!

    • @crashpal
      @crashpal 3 года назад +11

      Spiderman: "I Missed The Part Where That's My Problem"

    • @The_Hylian_Likely
      @The_Hylian_Likely 3 года назад +4

      Doesn't make them less talented, but sure as hell pisses enough of them off to walk out of Disney and make their own animation studio.

    • @datdamndog389
      @datdamndog389 3 года назад +4

      @@The_Hylian_Likely did any of them ever actually say they wherent happy about it? and if so why would they be? they we're paid by disney to make those animations for disney. disney owns them and can use them in whatever way they want.

    • @tails230
      @tails230 3 года назад +4

      True. Other studios like Warner Bros recycled many things as well.
      They've recycled the same explosion screen countless times in many Looney Tunes cartoons.

  • @bubblylemon9471
    @bubblylemon9471 3 года назад +110

    Please keep in mind, it was NOT as easy as it is today, to make a movie, and an animated one at that.

    • @Gurerere
      @Gurerere 3 года назад +16

      And even nowadays is not THAT easy. As an animation student being taught on 2D and 3D animation, it is pretty damn hard. We use things called "presets" that is basically the same as "recicling" but just on things that are way too tedious to animate like walking cycles and such! So yeah, TLDR; Animation is haaaaard....

    • @darth3911
      @darth3911 3 года назад +1

      @@Gurerere Back then you had to hand draw all the scenes
      that’s why it was common for recycled animation to happen.

    • @queerstioninglife
      @queerstioninglife 3 года назад

      Well…. Look at frozen 2 they still have not learned

  • @Rabanitooooo
    @Rabanitooooo 3 года назад +33

    Animation is really hard work, they have all the right to do this

  • @melon_sprout
    @melon_sprout 3 года назад +111

    why do people complain about recycled animation so much?? animating is really hard y'all-

    • @maee1507
      @maee1507 3 года назад +2

      it's not like Disney is a huge company hiring hundreds of animators 🙄

    • @31oannamphong66
      @31oannamphong66 3 года назад +15

      @@maee1507 well, it not like the 40s-60s, disney was that rich

    • @melon_sprout
      @melon_sprout 3 года назад +16

      @@maee1507 that doesn't change how hard animation is. it takes a whole studio of workers to make one single game over a long period of time, animation is kinda the same

    • @ratmondshaw3921
      @ratmondshaw3921 3 года назад +8

      @@maee1507 you do realize that doesn't make the process any easier right

    • @danielhernandez2575
      @danielhernandez2575 3 года назад +3

      Look at all you excusing Disney for being lazy, same type of people that were drooling for the live action remakes.

  • @matthewmiller7207
    @matthewmiller7207 3 года назад +75

    @0:21, That's a surprise to see. They did it all the way to the end of the era of traditional hand-drawn Disney animation.

    • @TGMD1986
      @TGMD1986  3 года назад +27

      That one, most likely, could just be a reference or an easter egg, so to speak. I don't really see any other reason why they would feel obligated to recycle it, since that was during an era where they were NOT struggling financially, at least compared to the 60's/70's when it was common for them to do so.

    • @thederptor2571
      @thederptor2571 3 года назад

      What about the Winnie The Pooh movie that came after this

    • @Kevinrikeith
      @Kevinrikeith 3 года назад

      This one is more than likely a reference, they used a digital animation software for Princess and the Frog and hand drawn for sword in the stone. It legit would’ve been more work to trace each individual frame than to just make a new scene. There’s a few of them on here like the one with the three crows and Grumpy as the movements are completely different.

  • @tommybro5313
    @tommybro5313 3 года назад +22

    It’s funny how this is all seamless without comparing one another.

  • @GiggityGoo205
    @GiggityGoo205 3 года назад +8

    Renaissance artists would often save parts of pieces for the sole purpose of duplication in relative pieces. For example, a pattern of folds was used repeatedly once for a woman's dress and another time for a table cloth I don't remember from who specifically.

    • @spacetechempire510
      @spacetechempire510 3 года назад

      Makes scence due to you don’t want to make a thousand fold patterns for a background character or table.

  • @misterwhy6026
    @misterwhy6026 3 года назад +71

    “They’re just using the same animation over and over, what kinda cut-rate production is this.”

    • @MytischCrafts
      @MytischCrafts 3 года назад +20

      As a person who has done animations, it takes FOR EVER that’s why

    • @misterwhy6026
      @misterwhy6026 3 года назад +11

      @@MytischCrafts I understand that, I was just making a little joke.

    • @TECfan1
      @TECfan1 3 года назад +8

      Hehe, Cars reference.

    • @paperclip6377
      @paperclip6377 3 года назад

      @@MytischCrafts r/YouDidntGetTheJokeOrSomethingIdk

    • @ayarriba9093
      @ayarriba9093 3 года назад

      @@MytischCrafts I guess you haven't watched Cars?

  • @everything-comics1102
    @everything-comics1102 3 года назад +20

    The older ones look smoother than the newer ones, rip

    • @henloworld514
      @henloworld514 3 года назад +1

      probably because Disney had their best animators work on the big picture movies, then let animators reuse scenes in later sequels and movies not meant for theaters to save on time and money

  • @manghariz2211
    @manghariz2211 3 года назад +19

    Some are just similiar
    But some are practically the same

  • @ralphcalzada4767
    @ralphcalzada4767 3 года назад +8

    I don't see the reason why people get mad for reusing animations. Animations take a lot of work and it costs more and takes more time to create original animations. Mad respect for animators

    • @fiiuslair
      @fiiuslair 3 года назад +1

      Yeah exactly. I feel like people who look down upon this don't really understand how hard animation is. Especially when these movies where made. They are just being smart with their process.

  • @joshuasmith2486
    @joshuasmith2486 3 года назад +9

    This video actually give me confidence as a budding animator

  • @spcrri4796
    @spcrri4796 3 года назад +14

    I've never heard of Goliath II. I'll have to watch that one. It's short and looked cute.

  • @dr.livesey6120
    @dr.livesey6120 3 года назад +8

    0:47 this scene from dumbo is my number one most saddest heart breaking moment in any Disney film

    • @SlyFan-mp8dc
      @SlyFan-mp8dc 3 года назад

      Have you seen the part in Fox and the Hound where Tod's caretaker drops him off in the forest? I'm a 6 foot 4 man and I still get teary eyed watching that scene.

    • @jordanwebb1543
      @jordanwebb1543 3 года назад

      @@SlyFan-mp8dc naw when Bambi’s mom died

    • @dr.livesey6120
      @dr.livesey6120 3 года назад

      @@SlyFan-mp8dc im about 6ft but bro when i see that scene do you remember the soft caressing feeling of a moms love, and how its like no other love you can get absolutely anywhere else and how his head stops in her arms like he knows its the Last day he will be able to feel that love thats impossible to get any other way, im no mamas boy but i feel that hurt man

    • @ihatelife5464
      @ihatelife5464 3 года назад

      Mufasa’s death made me flood my room.

  • @TGMD1986
    @TGMD1986  3 года назад +4

    I must get this out before anyone draws conclusions (No pun intended):
    Personally, I find this technique quite fascinating. This video is NOT meant to reflect the technique in a negative light. I DO NOT believe Disney was "lazy" or "unmotivated" during this time. Yes, they WERE struggling financially after (And even before) Walt passed away. So it's easy to assume that they needed to cut-down on budgets and time, but I don't necessarily think that's the case.
    Wolfgang Reitherman. One of Disney's 'Nine Old Men', wanted to create something of a tradition. He purposefully acquired pre-animated cells from prior movies to add to newer works because HE believed it would result in a "higher quality product". When in reality, it proved to be much more painstaking than the original way of drawing NEW cells! Another one of Disney's 'Nine Old Men', Milt Kahl, did not share his feelings lightly:
    "I detest the use of-it just breaks my heart to see animation from 'Snow White' used in 'The Rescuers'. It kills me, and it just embarrasses me to tears." - Milt Kahl.
    As for the more recent movies like 'The Princess And The Frog', I do believe that those were probably just homages to the older works. A cute way of saying "Hey do you remember this!?", so to speak.

  • @BingethBongeth
    @BingethBongeth 3 года назад

    The way this is put together with the background music makes this feel extremely nostalgic, like I'm watching it on a VCR in the living room while everyone is asleep

  • @angelicadeleon8517
    @angelicadeleon8517 3 года назад +11

    0:46 I knew it

  • @Abranime18
    @Abranime18 3 года назад +7

    0:17 First and Last Walt Disney’s movies 😦

  • @GabrielaMilleo
    @GabrielaMilleo 3 года назад +2

    Many people call this laziness but animation is really fucking hard!!!! I'd like to see YOU come up with brand new shots for every single second of a film, it's a good thing they just trace over things they've already done on blink and you'll miss it moments so they can actually put the budget on bigger and more interesting original sequences!

  • @breadsticks6712
    @breadsticks6712 3 года назад +3

    If I knew they recycled just because, I would be equally as happy because of their time and effort into these masterpieces

  • @ANIMATIONLOVERBT
    @ANIMATIONLOVERBT 3 года назад +16

    Quite famous 🙂 both as a quote to themselves and, especially just after Disney had died, to save money. See the similarities between Robin Hood, Snow White, Aristocats and Jungle Book

  • @dylangeltzeiler946
    @dylangeltzeiler946 3 года назад +13

    0:30 Ha Ha. Talk about brotherly blood. What? Patch & Lucky are Blood brothers.

  • @aguy7848
    @aguy7848 3 года назад +1

    0:48 Wow, almost identical frames, and yet the Dumbo version is so much more powerful and emotional.

  • @JayJayTay
    @JayJayTay 3 года назад +1

    Comic and manga artists will do the same thing too, using the same backgrounds for different panels. Sometimes they'll use just a part of it, other times they use most of it and draw more in to fill in gaps, etc. It's an extremely efficient way to save time and money for them.

  • @Al-Cheese
    @Al-Cheese 3 года назад +1

    Love how this was recommended to me a few days after odd1sout's video

  • @MrT_Rex
    @MrT_Rex 3 года назад +7

    Recycle is good kids !! You don't need to burn what you hate, right Walt ?😏

  • @Bakedcakeyyy
    @Bakedcakeyyy 3 года назад +2

    Having worked in the 3D animation industry for almost 2 years now (altho not exactly the same but the foundations are similar) - we do a LOT of "recycling" for productions BUT they are usually worked on top of - and never just copy+pasted, there are still effort put in to them but they are done for the sake of deadlines usually

  • @helixxia9320
    @helixxia9320 3 года назад

    i feel like many of these are just a little throwback or easter egg to past movies. i think it's kind of cute and fun to try and find. props to those who did find all of these little similarities and compile them to a video

  • @cortexius181
    @cortexius181 3 года назад +2

    Knowing the pain of animating via cel papers, I'm more surprised by the fact that they could still make it go with the flow.

  • @missoli
    @missoli 3 года назад +1

    They’re actually pretty smart for doing this. Traditional animation takes a LONG time, and if they have the resources already available there’s no harm in recycling to be more efficient

  • @cheezeburgerdog1464
    @cheezeburgerdog1464 3 года назад +8

    I'm surprised Disney hasn't copyrighted themselves yet for copying animation.

  • @Riley.jones04
    @Riley.jones04 3 года назад

    I think that these recycled animations are pretty neat. Like a nod to their past creations, or a reliving of a previous experience.

  • @darkstarmoonshadow
    @darkstarmoonshadow 3 года назад +1

    I love how the music climates

  • @Banana-Uhl
    @Banana-Uhl 3 года назад +1

    I am shocked to find out that princess and the frog came out in 2009. How time flies

  • @larrymcphe8821
    @larrymcphe8821 3 года назад

    Old Disney movie are just magical

  • @alicialightchills6126
    @alicialightchills6126 3 года назад

    I see a lot of people saying traced, which may be particularly true. But there are so many negative connotations with that word. And I just want to make it clear that it is very normal for 2d animation companies to recycle previous animations in a their movies. Not only Disney does this. There are plenty other companies that may do this with movies and tv shows in 2D. 2D animation is an extremely tedious and long process. It’s especially necessary when your pushing out a new movie/show almost every year. It’s also a very good way to save some money. I hope this video opens some people’s eyes to how complex and demanding the animation industry really is.

  • @imsaturnlol
    @imsaturnlol 3 года назад

    This. Brings me back

  • @epicureanbard
    @epicureanbard 3 года назад +1

    I was WONDERING why that wolf looked so cat-like!

  • @somerandomname3124
    @somerandomname3124 3 года назад

    Ok but can we take a moment to appreciate how beautiful the animation is at times.
    2D animation has never really reached a lot of the level these films had their aesthetic can hardly be captured even today.

  • @jonathanlai3073
    @jonathanlai3073 3 года назад +2

    These are the days before keyframes can simply be copy and pasted with a few strokes of the keyboard. This technique saved so much time and money since everything was drawn by hand back then.

    • @MrJerkdude1
      @MrJerkdude1 3 года назад +1

      It did not save money. It was actually more expensive that way. Just time

    • @jonathanlai3073
      @jonathanlai3073 3 года назад

      @@MrJerkdude1 I disagree. Hand drawn animation uses primarily two forms of workflow: pose by pose and straight ahead.
      Pose by pose is setting key poses that the character goes through in the scene while straight ahead means drawing the next frame based off the last (used a lot in effects)
      The issue with new animation work is that it needs to be storyboarded, then key poses needs to be designed / adjusted / reworked to the approval of the director. The the in-betweener comes in to fill in the transition frames between the poses.
      When they reference/ copy old animation you can pretty much skip all the adjustments and timing design.
      Less work = Less billable time = save money

    • @MrJerkdude1
      @MrJerkdude1 Год назад

      @@jonathanlai3073 This is a long time ago, but it was explicitly mentioned by insiders during at least the older productions that it was more expensive to recycle animation. It's not a matter of agreeing. I'm just objectively right.

  • @marinetteproductions
    @marinetteproductions 3 года назад +1

    0:59 I knew I had a feeling Snow White and Aurora were alike

  • @kathrynadkisson8964
    @kathrynadkisson8964 3 года назад

    I enjoy this more than I should

  • @dontworryyoullbealright6949
    @dontworryyoullbealright6949 3 года назад +2

    I forgot where I've seen it but I saw a vid stating that they often recycle animation to save time and budget and so on

    • @queerstioninglife
      @queerstioninglife 3 года назад

      Yes since they did not use drawing tablets to make these it’s really hard to make 30 seconds of animation and making a whole 1hour movie-

  • @SonicMovieFan1000
    @SonicMovieFan1000 3 года назад +1

    A Disney film: OK, you can copy my homework, but don't make it obvious
    The Other Films:

  • @guyofminimalimportance7
    @guyofminimalimportance7 3 года назад +1

    I heard apparently the animators felt like digging up the old animation cycles and imposing them in was more laborious than just drawing new animations completely; but the studio's insistence on keeping the old stuff for reuse is part of why some of these old films are preserved.

  • @fairytalesim7153
    @fairytalesim7153 3 года назад

    Watched for the nostalgia

  • @5alware
    @5alware 3 года назад

    Good for them for having good resource management

  • @josegallese6133
    @josegallese6133 3 года назад +1

    0:25 my favourite part

  • @workdayfiddle
    @workdayfiddle 3 года назад +1

    It makes sense to recycle when you look at how difficult the animation process was back in the 1900s

  • @shrekwazowski3836
    @shrekwazowski3836 3 года назад +12

    The Princess and the Frog one was just a reference.

    • @queenofawesome2550
      @queenofawesome2550 3 года назад +2

      I never even noticed that reference until this video how cool.

  • @user-zq6yz5gf6d
    @user-zq6yz5gf6d 3 года назад

    I never noticed any of these wow thanks for showing us this

  • @mercenarymaster6937
    @mercenarymaster6937 3 года назад

    I love recycled animations ❤❤

  • @wiictvchannel1112
    @wiictvchannel1112 3 года назад +3

    I feel like a lot of these are homages or references. If they aren't it's kinda crazy how well the original animation held up against the much further away movie is recycling. Like, I don't care for Disney much these days but you have to give them credit back then. XD

  • @NovaGN
    @NovaGN 3 года назад +1

    There is just something about older Animation that feels good. It's just less smoothed out and feels more tangible to me

  • @LemonMoon
    @LemonMoon 3 года назад

    I feel like more people need to understand that animation is actually there really hard and takes a long time and when you have strict deadlines, part of animation is learning where to cut the corners to get your stuff done.

  • @Antifearn
    @Antifearn 3 года назад +5

    I don’t think the Sleeping Beauty kiss is recycled at all. Both Aurora and Phillip are at an angle, while Snow White and her prince are in a straight line.

  • @Brand-pn5yz
    @Brand-pn5yz Год назад +1

    Plot twist: aurora and snow white wakes up
    "Who are you and why are you in my room?

  • @vulturedrawz
    @vulturedrawz 3 года назад +1

    Well, imagine, you have to draw like 300 frames for one scene, but a very similar scene already exists that you’ve made
    So do you:
    Save time and still end up with a good animation?
    Or
    Waste time just to have basically the same project.
    It’s not a big deal if they reuse animations!

  • @ninjapants7688
    @ninjapants7688 3 года назад

    "Hey me, can I borrow your homework?"
    "Sure but make sure... wait.."

  • @cmvogt5951
    @cmvogt5951 3 года назад +2

    That's some Quite Disney Hand-Drawn Animation there.

  • @James.Oakleaf
    @James.Oakleaf 2 месяца назад +1

    the difference between Snow white and her prince charming with Aurora and Prince Philip ais that Philip and Aurora are about the same gae while Snow White is only 14 and that prince charming is like 18 somesay older

  • @smokeytherat1533
    @smokeytherat1533 3 года назад

    To people saying that this is lazy, especially when these animations were made, it took hours and hours to make one full frame, it's not laziness.

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. 3 года назад

    Some are more nods than recycled. The Frog Princess is the best example of this.

  • @rastaramune7893
    @rastaramune7893 3 года назад

    Most people are making sense of why Disney would recycle, but honestly this just makes me realize how many Disney movies I didn't watch

  • @henloworld514
    @henloworld514 3 года назад +4

    I don’t understand why people are getting so defensive in the comments lol. The creator of this video never said it was bad to reuse animation

    • @TGMD1986
      @TGMD1986  3 года назад

      Funny you mentioned it. I'm going to upload a follow-up video to this one soon regarding the comment section. Replying to as much people as I can just doesn't seem to work anymore...

    • @henloworld514
      @henloworld514 3 года назад +1

      @@TGMD1986 yeah seems like most people assumed you meant that because of the side by side comparison, Disney apparently gets criticized frequently for reusing animation, or maybe they feel an obligation to get defensive about every possible criticism since Disney made up most of their childhoods? perhaps adding a disclaimer in the beginning of these types of compilations could help

  • @koichan33
    @koichan33 3 года назад

    “Can i copy your homework?”
    “Sure, just change it up a bit.”

  • @LuckyUser63
    @LuckyUser63 3 года назад +1

    Meanwhile Toby fox: "look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power"

  • @peteyabit9488
    @peteyabit9488 3 года назад +1

    if you think reusing animations is bad watch anime its a good way of saving money

  • @basicbee5548
    @basicbee5548 3 года назад

    Disney: yeah im run out of idea
    Also disney: i gonna slap the old one into the new one

  • @Percyco
    @Percyco 3 года назад

    Ok so, are my thoughts about it:
    The Rescuers - Traced
    Robin Hood - This is a bit difficult to get since the camera view is much different, but you can clearly see how some of the bells have the same exact shape frame to frame.
    So it's probably traced with some minor things added, same applies for the second shot.
    Goliath - Clearly traced
    The Jungle Book - Feels like Snow White was used as a reference more than a direct trace, wouldn't call it a complete re-use or a traced animation, the timing and the poses are totally different.
    Princess Frog - The original shot was used as a reference, but in this case it comes off as a cute easter egg more than a time saving maneuver, it's an homage.
    The Fancy Free - Apart from the fact that most of the animation at the beginning is completely original, the ending is still quite different from the original.
    It's either a coincidence or the original shot was just used as a reference but I doubt it, they're just different.
    101 Dalmatians II - This is either a trace or a direct replica.
    The Black Cauldron - Traced
    The Sword And The Stone - Traced
    101 Dalmatians II - The beginning is original but the rest seems like it was traced or HIGHLY referenced
    101 Dalmatians - The frame has been clearly re-drawn in it's entirity, even the prospective is totally different.
    It's just the same location with the same design, but I wouldn't call it a Re-Use.
    Goliath II - Traced
    Sleeping Beauty - Uh wha?? These are totally different, different poses, different timing, totally different approach to the scene. This is all but a re-used animation, it's just an homage to the original scene.
    In the end, 5 out of 13 of these aren't (imo) traced, the rest being either highly referenced or straight up traced.
    It's still a cute video and really informative since a lot of comments are sharing knowledge about Disney, but it's clearly flawed in it's content.

  • @swag304
    @swag304 3 года назад +1

    Dang I didn’t know the Disney movies were that old

  • @rodmarferia5478
    @rodmarferia5478 3 года назад +2

    I was right all the time and it is that the first film will always have a compilation and identical scenes for the next film be it princesses or talking animals .✊😄😄😄😜

  • @uno3191
    @uno3191 3 года назад +1

    Bambi: *You can copy us just don’t make it too obvious*
    The Rescuers:

  • @StephonZeno
    @StephonZeno 3 года назад

    I guess this is an example of working smarter, not harder.

  • @burge2695
    @burge2695 3 года назад +16

    I don't mind..disney movies during those times were 1000% better then the garbage we get today

    • @burge2695
      @burge2695 3 года назад

      @@TGMD1986 I've enjoyed lately watching studio ghibli movies...more simple and calm..slower..and overall better story

    • @itsadam_shah
      @itsadam_shah 3 года назад +3

      but raya and the last dragon ain't that bad tho

    • @puterboy2
      @puterboy2 3 года назад

      You must be jaded. I know I am.

    • @JessicaChastainFan
      @JessicaChastainFan 3 года назад +1

      @@itsadam_shah Raya was great, yes. A rare exception. But, it's no Pinocchio or even Hunchback of Notre Dame.

    • @bavard100
      @bavard100 3 года назад

      @@TGMD1986 I think they could use cgi and 2D together. Like Sony. Omg Sony is like the new Disney. T.heir animation is AMZING like spider-verse, meet the Mitchell’s [don’t like the story tbh but animation amazing] and personally I like vivo best. I love how in 2d when they don’t make it realistic for example princess and the frog almost there scene but they do it in 3D [beat to my own drum]. The 2D Iin Vvo is amazing and in spiderverse.
      Personally I think adapting is best instead of going back in ive with complete Hand drawn. As an animator myself who just graduated and I can ONLY do 2D. It really sucks that technology has moved on. I can only apply for tv shows. I do miss the 2D animation. But I do love looking at how advance and amazing 3D has become.
      Maybe they could animated the old traditional way [12 principles] but in cgi and not try to make realistic.

  • @zerovod4150
    @zerovod4150 3 года назад

    I don't know how y'all view "recycled" but I find them more like Easter eggs.

  • @Dafdgo
    @Dafdgo 3 года назад +1

    The truth is, I do not blame him who had the passion to do the same if they were

  • @Anon.279
    @Anon.279 3 года назад +2

    They are the same studio who made the original on as well. So, I see no problem calling it ‘recycled’.

  • @JoeSavySC2
    @JoeSavySC2 3 года назад

    Considering it was all hand drawn frame by frame animation, pretty good I'd say

  • @陳冠廷-m9j
    @陳冠廷-m9j 3 года назад

    "The sword in the stone" and "101 Dalmatians" both have a part that someone use a rod hit another man behind him unintentionally.

  • @henrylechmere5042
    @henrylechmere5042 3 года назад +2

    History repeats itself like reincarnation

  • @kgunitkeese17
    @kgunitkeese17 3 года назад

    Bear in mind that most of these films did not have a very big budget that they could work on. So they were forced to use recycled animations for on going films. I personally don’t see a problem with it because it makes the references a lot more wholesome in my opinion.

  • @W0LFB3AT5
    @W0LFB3AT5 3 года назад +7

    They honestly recycled “The Princess and the Frog”?
    This is the 21st century. I thought animators tend to become more improvised in our modern times…

    • @applejuices
      @applejuices 3 года назад +11

      They didn’t recycle that. The whole animating process of the princess and the frog is different from older movies, and I don’t think it’s very likely they used traditional animation for just that shot. It’s obviously just a reference

    • @W0LFB3AT5
      @W0LFB3AT5 3 года назад

      @@applejuices ah. I see.

    • @queerstioninglife
      @queerstioninglife 3 года назад

      @@applejuices what about the 101 Dalmatians one 0:31

  • @legoangrybirds8630
    @legoangrybirds8630 3 года назад +8

    As a kid I knew about the recycled animation scenes when I watched Snow White, Robin Hood and the jungle book.

    • @fangirl_43
      @fangirl_43 3 года назад

      @urso amarelo Golden x toy Chica ??????????

    • @fangirl_43
      @fangirl_43 3 года назад

      @urso amarelo Golden x toy Chica 🤔

  • @samuelattias3604
    @samuelattias3604 Год назад +1

    Yeah

  • @manuliza6420
    @manuliza6420 3 года назад +1

    These feel more like callbacks than recycles

  • @Trecherousbeast
    @Trecherousbeast 3 года назад +5

    0:02 recycled
    0:08 reference (bells aren’t even moving at the same speed)
    0:10 recycled (not sure about the mice, but the rice lines up perfectly)
    0:13 recycled
    0:17 not even sure if referenced (animation doesn’t line up at all, both characters are just in a similar situation)
    0:21 reference (characters aren’t even the same species, poses don’t line up)
    0:23 recycled
    0:25 not even sure if referenced (both groups of characters happen to be crows, animation doesn’t line up, just in a similar situation)
    0:30 reference (animation doesn’t line up, there aren’t too many ways you can animate a dog yawning)
    0:34 possibly recycled most likely referenced (animation doesn’t line up)
    0:36 possibly recycled
    0:39 reference (animation doesn’t line up)
    0:44 isn’t even animation, just a shot of Big Ben.
    0:47 recycled
    0:56 recycled

    • @Trecherousbeast
      @Trecherousbeast 3 года назад

      @MUSHROOMS AND MOTHS yeah, I wasn't too sure about that one. The poses and everything ljne up really well in my opinion, but most recycled animation usually looks like a carbon copy of the original. It doesn't help that both princes pretty much look identical.

    • @datdamndog389
      @datdamndog389 3 года назад

      i would say that 0:25 is referenced. theres a part where the beaks of the 3 birds below line up perfectly.

  • @K0ira
    @K0ira 3 года назад

    Well, it seems like most of the time, the thing changes quite a lot, like it goes from a dwarf to a panther.

  • @mateoh2438
    @mateoh2438 3 года назад

    Some are like obvious recolors but some look like homages

  • @ashhlol
    @ashhlol 3 года назад

    The fact that the older ones have better quality lmao