Marshall, Mesa Boogie, or Orange - Which Amp Has The Best DIRTY Tone?
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- Опубликовано: 11 апр 2021
- A great amp will make any guitar sound incredible...but which one is right for you? Let's find out!
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Let me know which amp you liked the best and if you could identify them!
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I am partial to the Marshall DSL 100. Thats what I own ! ✌️😊 I have a Richie Blackmore Strat and a Gibson Les paul also so best of most all worlds !
Orange scored last for me in two of the three tests :P I think I prefer the Mesa Boogie :D
I’m a straight metal guy and of these amps I think the Orange has the best metal high gain tones. That said I think that the Mesa Mark series is far superior to all three for metal tones.
I have a Mesa Boogie Tri-Axis powered by a Simul 2:90 and I feel I can get any tone I want with that setup and external EQ. Seriously, with patience and a lot of tweaking, I can nail in anything from a twin reverb to a Mark IIc+ and the three amps I demo’d today.
For clean tone I still use my Tri-Axis but I would love to get my hands on an old ADA MP1. I had one in the early 90’s and it has to be the best clean tone I’ve ever heard...they’re just really hard to come by these days and tend to go for way too much money.
1st comparison I could only ID the Marshall for sure. I'm impressed by the Orange! What a nice combo with the Les Paul. 👍✌
you should get, if you can find one... a Bugera V55HD Infinium. I just got one and it kind of sounds between the orange and marshall (maybe)... I haven't had it long and don't know how to use a tube amp very well. maybe you can do some videos on how to get tones like you have going on. my settings are never this good, getting better, but yours... wow!
I prefered Orange on all tones. And i thought i'd prefer the Marshall.
Some Marshall amps need to be pretty loud to bring up the bass - actually can become a problem at higher volume: too much bass.
It is a DSL100. A better comparison would have been the JCM800/900 compared to the other two. But Orange is incredible.
Orange is my fave here, but any Mesa/Boogie Mark series from IIC+ through V would make for a more difficult choice.
Haha me too. And i didnt like orange too much… but… just shows. Most ppl aim for that dark scooped full blown sound with orange amps -> doesnt do them justice. Same with rectos :/
I preferred the Orange as well, however I did rather also gravitate towards the Marshall for the high gain bit.
My guess it's that for most drive tones the Orange is the easiest to dial in and use, whereas you can go many ways with the Marshall and possibly even more with the Mesa, however the last one is by far the toughest to dial in.
I also wouldn't diss the Orange clean, as it's meant as a pedal platform that can be nudged any way with an eq and some boost/comp/OD even if it's not exactly immediately impressive or characterful by itself. Remember that the dirty channel builds on top of the same clean ;-)
Never played thru one but for me and I must say very surprisingly, Orange got my vote on all 3 tests.
A mate of mine has a Thunderverb 100, and a custom loaded 4x12 (I dunno what's in it, tbh). It's almost obscene.
I have played all three in live band situations many times. Really love all of them. Having said that. Once I got my Rockerverb Mk11, I haven’t been able to play on anything else at all. I can easily get a plexi tone on it, and all the tones I got from the Mesa, and Marshall. But can’t get any other amp to sound like my sweet sweet love. I truly believe that once you go orange there’s no going back. I play classic to hard rock, and 90s grunge style.
I’m a Mesa and Marshal guy because of my 80s obsession but you can’t deny that Orange sounds good.
They record great but I hate to play through one. Great rock tone but in my opinion doesn't go really further than that
@@FabrizioPeretti I'm an orange guy. I play metal , rock , and blues.....but no, you really cant do anything outside of this. The speakers are just celestions with bigger magnets for natural gain. So clean or dirty.....its always there.
There are 2 types of people, those who love orange amps, and those who eat soup with a fork
@@BOBANDVEG LOL good one
@@BOBANDVEG Orange has a darker tone and sounds quite bad with humbuckers unless I mess with the EQ. I like them as a company but let’s compare Jimmy Pages orange tone today to his Marshall tone of yesteryear and I think we both know which one is iconic and which one isn’t
@@alexmurphy5289 enjoy your soup sir
I think the biggest takeaway is that all-noon is not the correct EQ setting for most amps. Also, I think the Marshall needed to be a little louder. Also, killer Paul!
@@0megalul309 and Marshalls need to be loud enough to get past the bright cap.
@@PFDarkside I run an eq in the loop of my DSL-20HR.
If I cut the signal with the eq and crank the amp to compensate it seems to have similar results to a $500+ attenuator.
Big ol' bitchin' Marshall tone without the broken windows and visits from the "Friendly Fuzz!!!"
Yes, all controls at noon is no way to run a test. None of them sounded really good and I know all three are great sounding amps if they're properly dialed in.
Marshall struck my ear best each time. I was surprised how nice the Orange sounded in the final test - lost its tinniness, turning it into a great bright tone.
I love the low gain grit that Orange has for 70s and 80s rock, and the high gain doomy style that modern Orange amps have,
But I'm still a Peavey guy
Indeed, I believe Jim Root has his own signature Orange
I'm a huge peavey guy too, I do play alot through my marshall but I love the clean tone of my peaveys.
Every Peavey I ever played through sounded like an icepick in the ear.
Admittedly, I played Stratocasters exclusively back then. But even with a humbucker loaded axe I just can't find a sound I like.
I always avoided Marshall because everyone and their mother has one. Then the DSL line came out and I figured WTF??? At that price, why not???
I sold my Mesa and haven't looked back.
Now I know what everyone and their mothers know...lol!!!
Peavey XXL is a magnificent cheap amp if you can find one.
I love my FiLs Peavey Bandit
Never seen or played any of those but still watched all the way.
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The Marshall was my overall winner, with the Orange coming in second. I love that DSL brightness and crunch.
Hi. That was a fantastic demo of just the right length too. Thank you for taking the time to make this comparison. Regards.
I never thought I’d say it, but the Marshall made the hair on my arms stand up. It’s my favorite. I guess I just like my 80s metal for a reason.
I've used all 3 in studio and live situations. They're all great brands. Using a Tiny Terror all the time now. It just feels right.
Cool video!
I'm a bassist and I use the Bass Terror. Simple setup that makes you work the tone and volume knobs. I love orange...have a Terror and a Bax Bangeetar for my six string needs.
I have noticed a lot of bass players using Orange Amps and Cabinets. Orange sells an Orange (color orange) bass guitar.
The Orange Rocker/Rockerverb is such an underrated amp.
In metal scene , rockerverb is one of the most favorite amps after 5150/6505
@@Miasma666yeah lol everyone used a rockerverb these days
I never realized how much I loved the Orange tone until I saw this, thank you.
Love your videos Darrell! Comparisons like this are inherently difficult where you're trying to reduce the variables for a true A/B comp, but setting all EQ knobs on 12 o'clock really does the Mesa a disservice. I've owned several amps and the dual rec is the only one where 12'oclock across the board doesn't sound very good IMO. The manual even says 12 o'clock isn't a great starting place, and people who claim they can't get a good tone out of a dual rec just need to read the manual to figure out how to use the EQ knobs to get the tone they are after. It's insane how versatile that amp is once you know how to use it! But yeah, for this comp I think the Orange won, and it's the only one of the 3 I don't own..go figure XD
Keep up the fire content dude
This was a great way to compare amps! The blind samples made me focus on the sound without having the presumption of already knowing which brand it was. Btw, I'm diggin' that flannel! 👌
The Orange scored a 3 out of 3. It is clearly my favourite.
Very interesting and informative video, as always.
I was surprised how much I liked the Orange. There was an Orange amp in the practice studio I used to go to which didn’t sound like that, so I thought didn’t like Orange. Will definitely try them out more!
Great review thank you 🎸🎸
Orange all the way. Amazing sounds
Impressed. Awesome video.
Great video 😊 !! I was capable of identifying the amps and I am so proud about it 😄 The low end gave me easily the Dual Rectifier (6L6). The sizzle in the high mids gave me the Marshall. 3 legends in this video but I have to say that the "all at 12" doesn't pay justice to the dual rectifier. I mean in this video it sounds clearly behind the Marshall and orange for Rock tones. However with the vintage mode, cutting some low ends and adding some presence it is by far my favorite choice next to the BE-100 for Rock tones 😎
I love this video idea for this channel!
You really have some great toys!!! I have to use simulations to get close to these tones. I have had marshall but not the other 2. (and only a fender twin these days) Being on a gear diet sucks, but I can still read and enjoy browsing the menu!
How do I get here 3 minutes after upload and there's already several other comments? Bravo Darrell! :)
Because some of us live to comment first...
xD
Terrific video!
I prefer simplicity in an amp in order to get the tones I want. One of the biggest reasons I gravitate towards Orange. Also the note definition is unbelievable with them. I have the Crush 120, & even for a solid state, I get every Orange sound I want
Marshall for me all the way but that’s what was big in 80’s when I was young. That’s what my friends all played so that is the sound that sounds right to me. With that said I wouldn’t complain if someone would give me any of them. Great video as always. You are definitely on of my favorite channels. 🤠🎸🤘
Great Video
Wow I chose Marshall, Orange then Mesa on each segment. They all sounded great and would use any one.
Orange! The TH30 has a wonderful clean channel as well.
Good stuff! This novice thanks you for all of your videos.
GREAT Video !!!!!
My favorite for all three was the Orange! Fantastic video!
Absolutely love the finish on that Les Paul! :O. Also, the Mesa in the first test you did didn't sound as gritty as the other 2 and I find it would sound nice for some Blues with some slight grittiness to it
I own a Dual Rec and a Marshall. I need a Rockerverb to complete the collection! Love them all. This demo really didn't do the Dual Rec any favors. It is so versatile I can get almost any tone I want from it. I also have an old Boogie Studio Pre that sounds amazing. Just buy all three!!
That orange amp really blew me away. Picked it every time. Never thought I’d like an orange amp!
The problem with that is Darrell, each amp's "innate character" also means that the tone stack is totally different. Setting all at 12 means nothing, as that isn't a magic spot where there is no boost/cut like is often mistaken.
You're right there isnt one amp I ever used that I set everything at 12 o'clock. The best test would be find the "sweet" spot on each....then record them. That way you get the best tones from the amps to compare.
@@bobboitt3126 Exactly.
Yup, JTM45 HW, Jubilee and 1987xl along with Vintage 30 and Greenback Celestine. All 3 of these blows away all three of the pics for the video Blending / Jumpering the channels on the Plexis and that unique mid pot on the 45, sounds like no other!!!
I got the first set wrong, but got the rest correct. The Marshall was easy to tell apart and the Mesa you could tell on the high gain pretty easy. Love them all!
Great comparison, thank you.
Les Paul and Marshall: match made in heaven!
Great video as always. Have you ever used the Amplitude5 that's out now?
Thanks for this video Darrell, loved the Orange all the way through. It confirmed one thing I have come to believe, run your Marshall really loud or it will sound fizzy, I have seen this demonstrated time and time again. I hated the Marshall DSL I demoed at guitar center, but I'm now sure it had more to do with the volume being on 2, instead of 8 or 10... That said,I liked the Orange best on 1st and 3rd demo, and the Mesa in the second demo.
Wow ! If you would have ask me I would have told you the Orange would be the last of the three that I would buy but it was my favorite on each of the three you played.
DAMN!!! Not only was I able to correctly guess each amp in each tone comparison, but I'm now convinced I need a Mesa Dual Rec!!
I honestly thought I'd end up going for Mesa but every single round I picked the orange, I think that's telling me I should spend more time with the micro terror I got a few months back.
Good video, thanks.
Any chance you can do a review of Morris amps? He makes amplifiers out of Welland Ontario Canada.
Cheers
Great video as always Darrell, was wondering though, living in the great white North, have you played Traynor amps before?
I haven't played through any of these amps but am quite aware of there capabilities, and I was able to tell which was which. After this back to back to back comparison I have to say the Orange is my choice followed by the Marshall. Thanks Darrell.
Wow, this surprised me! I favored the Mesa/Boogie all three times, it sounded killer. The Orange took 2nd place for me. Marshall also sounded great, just a little too fizzy in the high end for my taste. Awesome comparison, Darrell!
Damn, Orange really shines here, especially from 3:49. Full, very balanced, round and punchy tone. Mesa was too flubby and wooly. Marshall has too much hi end spike and harshness.
Indeed.
I felt the same! MAN, did I possibly buy the wrong amps???
Presence knob is powerful, so actual setting can be different, but orange truly rocks
I have orange amps and marshall amps. Without thinking I always seem to go to my or50. it just kicks with thick rock tones. Awesome review as always.
The presentation of the blind test was great! I picked Orange twice, and I originally thought that I didn't care for Orange.
I would love to see a video on recording / amp set-up at home, so I don't kill my ears or my neighbours and still get to play with a great tone. Much love
Thats why I also have my modelers, .Fractal ACE FX III, AX8, and Helix... Recording / Neighbors aren't a problem anymore and the tones are spot on. ✌🏽
I like the Mesa but inlove that Les Paul.Great playing as usual.
Hello Darrell Great vid TY. I noticed you changed the pickups on your LP Standard, I have a 2017 LP Standard with the stock Burstbucker pros I am noticing these PUs are a bit muddy and not clear. The PUs on your LP sounded great very clear ,can i ask what they are TY from Toronto.
I had the easiest time picking out the Mesa...the mid scoop was pretty apparent to my ears. The Marshall and Orange seemed most similar to me.
Nice opener! 🤘🏻🎸🤓
Did this blind and was really surprised to have picked Orange all 3 times! I've been a budget player since like 2005 and always wanted a Mesa Double/Triple Rec but may navigate towards the Orange heads now. Thanks so much for this! Quality content as usual
Orange has the crush pro series of solid state amps that are based on the rockerverb and get 99% of the way there for much cheaper than a rockerverb.
Orange is crushing it in the amps! They are amazing imo
@@DarthCiliatus researching now. Been playing a Schecter PT Blackjack 2004 since 2004. A couple of years ago I got a good deal on a Line6 POD HD 500x with all the expansion packs. Haven't had a real amp since like 2015 (which was a Crate head and cab just so I could play shows) Been in apartments for like the last 10 years but am moving into a house in a few months. I need to be able to turn up.
@@Madchris8828 My favorite lead sound has always been Synyster from Avenged Sevenfold. I know he uses his own sig guitar (with sustainiac and a custom invader. I have a JB/69 combo in my PT but am putting a pair of Invaders in soon) and amp but even before that he used schecters and bogner uberschalls. Can I get something comparatively nasally and with similar breakup out of an orange?
@@MusingMuso can't answer that for sure. I would imagine so. I'd say go try it out at a local guitar store just to be sure. But not sure that's even possible right now. I would think it can be done though
I was really diggin the orange on the distortion
Jim Root from Slipknots go to. Great sound, especially with distortion
I picked the Marshall on every one! I love that upper brightness in the distortion.
I liked them all in the different spots, but I guess that shows their differences. For each on I chose a different amp on the blind test
1. Mesa
2. Marshall
3. Orange (not surprising because of the lows)
The only one I could pick out was orange because it has its own character I found pretty evident
I searched for my first amp to play mostly blues (I have a Godin Session Custom 59') 1 year ago. I went with Orange (Crush 35RT). The Orange sound with pure nickel strings and vintage pickups is simply beautiful.
Orange FTW, but I've never seen such a simple and clear example of the iconic tone of each. Now, if I could only afford any one of those . . .
I'm a bassist and I've been using Orange for years. Great sound and loud enough to knock birds out of the sky. Plus, the gear holds up to heavy gigging...almost like it's bulletproof. I was so impressed that all my six string stuff is Orange was well. My guitarist in my blues trio is a Mesa girl. She absolutely loves Mesa...
Interesting... you don't see Mesa Boogies often for Blues. You usually see them often for Metal/Hard Rock
@@FloodExterminator Yep. She used to have a Rectifier combo (double I think). She got rid of it a long time ago-thing weighed way more than my Orange setup- and has a much smaller and simpler setup now. She's been using Mesa for years, she found her sound. She tried a lot of amps over the years, Fenders, Marshalls, Peaveys etc and Mesa is where she landed. She makes it work. I think it's a Mark 5 combo that she has now.
@@ferox965 Indeed, Orange does tend to make small but powerful amps and cabs
@@FloodExterminator Walter Trout uses Mesa combos
Any chances of you ever doing a review on the Black Spirit 200? just bought one and after almost 3 years of research and weighing my options i decided it was the right one for me. it's really hard to beat the value of that amp head. i know theres tons of reviews on that amp already but i think you do some really great videos and would be worthy to see on your channel!
That was awesome love those sounds,how did you get 3 amp heads to fit in the palm of your hand, that's like 350 watts
Hi Darrell, thank you for this especial, it is very helpful, i think you should also comparing the quality price, I suppose the Boogie will be much more expensive, but yes nice video
Good blind test, I best like Marshall and Mesa.
They’re all great! My personal favs are the Mesa and Orange
You forgot to say "I hope your having a great day " that always makes me smile...........great video thanks.
Damn!!!.loved the orange on all blind tests. Looked it up and DAMN THEY PRICEY AS FUGH!! Gonna keep an eye out for some used ones
I’ve had two Orange amps. I loved them both. The last one I had was an OR50. My buddy plugged it into his giant ass wall of Sound City cabs and it ripped. My favorite thing about the Orange amps is that they sound good set at 12 O clock no matter what. The EQ sections are also very good when you do use them.
Great Shoot out
The Orange really surprised me, I was dead set on getting a DSL100 but now I'm debating on the Rockerverb 50, sounds great, but at this point in time I think I would like a decent to good clean channel as well, so I might stick with getting a DSL
Hi again Darrell, I stated before, I have the exact Marshall's, so I am partial to that. I also have the orange. But I do not have the Mesa. I prefer Fender over Mesa. Great comparison though. I use the Marshall's for most of the recording. Great video today.
I used to hate orange amps but lately I’ve had some financial troubles and needed a cheap tube amp and actually went with the orange micro dark hybrid. I hated it at first, but I have to say, it is astonishing the tones you get from the little beast and it’s actually my main amp thus far. It introduced me to orange and taught me to not be so biased on amp brands
The Orange gets my vote for break-up and high gain. It sounds very balanced, not too much, not too little. But the Mesa has it's unique tone and I can't pick between it and the Orange for Classic Rock. If I do upgrade my amp, I know what to look for and also how to tune my Blackstar's EQ to get a specific tone. The Marshall really needs to be let loose and EQ'd to get it to sound like I want it to I guess. Anyways, amazing video, great playing and riffs as always. Thanks so much for these videos man, helps beginners like me a lot.
Thanks for the video! Highly instructive to me about my tastes and the many ways my "brain" tries to tell me things otherwise. You see, I have a Tiny Terror and LOVE IT! Simple. Beautiful sounds. Very easy to sculpt them. But my brain tells me I need another Marshall (Have origin 20) or I need a Mesa. but hearing the tones done here, I think: I should save up and see about an Orange upgrade. Til then, I'll be rockin' my Tiny Terror!. Thanks!
Darrell you are a mind reader!!! said that dozens of times to myself before.
All three Amps are cool , i have an old orange AMP, i Love this Sound, super Video, Darrell. 🎶🎤🎹🚗🎼🎙️🎵🎧🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸👍😉
I absolutely love the sound of the the Marshall. I’m in the market for a new amp and while I love the dsl100 it’s definitely more power then I need. I don’t gig at all and the genres I’m playing are mostly blues and classic rock. Im not into chugging and scooped mids not there is anything wrong with it just not my thing. I’ve been looking at the Hughes and letter GM40 and I was wondering since you did the video on that amp how do you like it and do u think that might be a better option? Especially now that you’ve had a year to use it
What I learned: I don’t know tone 😂
I'm with you there. Lol
Every video;
Me: "that sounds terrible"
Reviewer: "listen to that beautiful tone"
I liked them all, but the Marshall does it for me. followed by Orange then Mesa. Darrell, I put the Tone Monster EQ pre-amp in my IB Ebay bass, man what a difference, thanks for that tip.
I liked the MB dual rect all 3 times. Done deal for me. thanks
I have a Mesa Boogie Mark V and I won't be getting rid of it any time soon :) I do also really like the other two amps, but the Mark V is easily capable of making almost any type of sound you might ever want for an electric guitar. [ and it's REAAALLY loud ;) ]
Nice comparison. Easy to detect the Rockerverb, as I play a RV50 MKI head (6V6 tubes) for years. I disagree about some views. The RV is quite versatile once you understand how to work with the four gainstages in the drivechannel. And the cleans are phenomenal, if you use the right preamptubes and crank the clean channel a bit. You might not expect it, but this amp can cover many styles. And yes, it has character in spades.
I’m debating by a combo of the mk1.
Picked the the Marshall as my preferred tone all three times , I play through a Vox so really had no dog in this fight , really good comparison !
I have an Orange Crush Pro 120 and I couldn’t be happier with it. I’m running it through a Marshall MX 412AR and man it sounds awesome!!! I can’t wait to save up and get a Marshall head and a second cab. Just so I can have the different sound and a full stack!!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🎸🎸🎸🎸😎
i really dig all the orange tones , dual everything but overdrive sounded awesome too
Interesting comparison. People rarely play/record with EQ set to neutral, so I'm used to hearing these amps with EQ's/presence adjusted. I couldn't tell which one was which until he named them.
Decisions, all amazing. I’m a Spark fan at home . Love Mesa and Marshall
I have got a dsl40c and put a v30 speaker in it and it sounds amazing, love marshalls there's just something about how they sound
Wow I preferred the dual rectifier, I’m shocked 😮 gotta love these blind tests!!
Found I liked the Orange on all three comparisons
I am back to my 3rd JCM 50 watt Plexi. They all have a lovely snarl in the lower mids that I did not hear in your Marshall. I got fooled by your Marshall. What I like about the Plexi is in spite of the gain flat picking never gets muddy.
Can you set the eq on the marshall and make it sound similar to orange, to show the powerfull eq.
Orange has a saturation and character I love! Marshall a close second. Was kinda hoping the Badlander would be in here too!
Nice demo amigo! I was totally expecting to like the Marshall the best, but time after time I guessed the tones wrong! But being honest with the blind taste test I have to say every clip I thought the Orange came out on top. I’m sure the clean isn’t as good but with a heavy rock tone like that I’m sure you could go old school and dial the guitar back for some amazing cleaner sounds.
The clean on a rockerverb is amazing
I think what would’ve made this even more interesting is to have these sounds in the context of a mix. Simply put what may sound good by itself doesn’t always work in the context of a mix