Battle of Bronkhorstspruit
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- The Battle of Bronkhorstspruit was the first major clash of the First Boer War. It was a battle between a British army column and a group of Boers, fought by the Bronkhorstspruit River, a few miles east of the town of Bronkhorstspruit, Transvaal on 20 December 1880.
A column of British soldiers consisting of six officers and 246 men of the 94th Regiment, as well as 12 men of the Army Service Corps and four of the Army Hospital Corps, were marching on a road to Pretoria, when at least 250 Boers appeared to the left of the column.[2] Making use of the limited cover, the Boers crept to within 200 yards of the British. Lt. Col. Philip Robert Anstruther parleyed with a Boer envoy, who had brought a request from the Transvaal government to turn back.[3] Anstruther refused, but before he could move his column into skirmish formation the Boers opened fire at 12:30 pm.
Within fifteen minutes most of the officers were killed or wounded, and the horses and oxen pulling the covered wagons at the front and rear of the column were killed, preventing any movement. Shocked by the sudden and aggressive nature of the attack, Lt. Col. Anstruther gave the order to surrender. In a battle lasting just fifteen minutes, 156 British soldiers were killed or wounded, with the rest taken prisoner. Reported Boer casualties were only two killed and five wounded. Anstruther was himself wounded during the fight and died on the 26th of December following the amputation of one of his legs.[1]
British Soldier: They've been playing the same bloody song over and over for the last 5 hours. Somebody kill me!
South Africa is a shithole don’t be too proud
@@romyarmada9580 Not the boers fault.
Boer rebels : Okay, challenge accepted....bang! bang! bang!
🤣
Boers: Hold my beer.
The British were experts at making their soldiers easy targets...the absolute best in the business with a loud marching band, bright red coats, white cross-straps over the heart for a bullseye, and white helmets. It must have taken some serious thinking to make their troops that vulnerable in open ground, BRAVO
@Mira Ferriviario You seem to be in denial of what you just watched in this video as it was sheer stupidity no matter how you try to spin it. And this wasn't their first encounter with guerrilla warfare as it happened more than a hundred years earlier with the French and Indian War where the British used the same outdated tactics in various encounters. The FRENCH successfully used guerilla warfare tactics against the British on several occasions so NO, it wasn't "all European armies". Only the Brits overwhelming numbers in North America allowed them to be victorious over the French in the end. It took British military leaders well over a century to catch up to the weapons being used....slow learners.
Incidents like this are largely why the British Army switched to black or tan uniforms in the later 19th century.
Tell us all that you know nothing about military history, without telling us you know nothing about military history.
@@oscaburns Are you blind?
He’s right …. This army was used around the world to manage the biggest empire ever known. Yes the boer war was different but until then, it was just fine. So the guy is utterly ignorant of his history
Beautiful to see the history of my country. My grandfather was involved in the 1899-1902 boer war. He shared many stories with me. I had to attend an Afrikaans school, as he hated the British.
jy kan hom nie blameer nie .. na wat hy en sy mense deurgemaak het.
Hi, when i was in secondary school, we in USSR were studing history of anglo-buer wars. I remember Orange republic, Transwaal. .. We were singing song - Transwaal, Transwaal , my mother land, you are all in flame.... Greetings from Russia
@@ПетрПетров-б4о Thank you for sharing. Much appreciated.
@@ПетрПетров-б4о Interestingly, the Boers were often revered for bravery by non-British regimes. They were used as an example by the Nazi propaganda machine too to inspire endurance in the face of overwhelming odds.
@@tonyvanderhelm2934 agreed
The Boers learnt from every enemy engagement. After this battle they incorporated a brass band into every action.
Hahaha
Haha, yeah you can tell this is Boer propaganda just by that! Ridiculous.
A competent commander knows that you do not march a force in columns like that without sending out riders to scout your route and guard your flanks, to prevent ambushes like this one. British officers purchased their commissions, instead of being promoted for merit, so there were many officers who didn't know what the hell they were doing.
Purchase of commissions ended in 1871 but I suppose there were many still serving at the time of the 1st Boer War.
Not only that .I remember Roger Moore came from a ordinary English family,but somehow he had that upper class accent. When he got called up as part of the normal Brit army call up they made him a officer simply because of his accent and bearing .He says he was as amazed as well , but was not going to complain.Back then class distinction was still alive and kicking and I beleive this was in the late 50s.
So no only do we employ a marching band to alert the enemy of our location, but we tell the enemy exactly where we're headed. What could go wrong.
Exactly what I was about to comment. No van guard, no flankers....shows the CO's utter contempt and lack of respect for his adversary....or complete incompetence.
Once more it was not an ambush. Check your dictionaries for the definition of Ambush and you will find it is defined as a "SURPRISE attack from cover". Now how could it be an ambush if a envoy was sent with a letter demanding Anstruther turn about??? He refused and marched on, whereas he could of done what you incorrectly stated he had no time to do, he could of retreated and reformed, taking position, anything he chose. The truth is that the night before at the send off dinner both local English farmers and townspeople as well as traitor Boers, warned him of the force that would confront him. Additionally he did have outriders who reported Boer activity ahead. So your arguments do not hold water. It was down to pomp, arrogance and contempt by strutting Sandhurst dandys. Not less the exceptional competence and fighting ability of the Boers, simple farmers who outwitted and out fought them in the following three battles as well, Laings Nek, Skynshoogte and Majuba proving it was no fluke or luck. To many of us Colonel Anstruther was known as An"strutter".
If they knew what SA was going to like today, both sides would've put down their arms and gone for a beer.
And leave all the gold behind? That's why their fighting.
Yes they would have done just that!
Gold fever!
@@tmdrm9817 The British are notorious for eliminating whole civilization's for their wealth.
@@muqri.2745 I just don't like the idea of attacking a country for it's gold! The British are notorious for eliminating whole civilization's!
For me this is such an EVOCATIVE film scene! 88 years after this skirmish occurred I was 2d lieutenant in the occupying army in a mostly obscure country in SE Asia called South Vietnam. 65% of the time I was in the group that was ambushed; 35% I was in the group of ambushers. As I'd learned in Army OCS training, it was ALWAYS better to be the ambusher -- rather than the ambushee.
The irony with this piece of film is that I identify so much more strongly with the Boers than with the Brits. But, perhaps that's the film maker's intent, i.e., to make the viewer sympathize with the under dogs.
Respect from the north east of England.sir.
@@jmc0075 Thank you, kindly, sir, and best wishes to you & yours from the Northeast Edge of the American Great Plains!
I always respect those who "step up to the plate" for their country.
@@michaelthwaite3282 Thank you. I'm glad that age keeps me from having to do that again.
This shit's been happening for two millennia at least. The ten year Trojan War, described in bloody detail in the Iliad, was the Greek's "Vietnam," ... fought with swords and spears instead of M16s and naplam.
Interesting thought for me; this was is the reason i'm alive today. My great-grandfather and his brother both fought for the English during the war, so when they returned to their town in Ireland they were shunned so they left for America. Now I am here.
I love how the officer while under fire stood up and walked to his men with his mount like a respectable gent
Wrong weapons. The Boers are shown with British Martini Henrys, they would have been using Sniders or Wesley-Richards, breech loaders.
they may well have been using Mausers by then..
BEN AVEIGA No, few mausers entered private hands in the 1870s. Both Boer States bought the Model 1895 "Swedish" Mauser from 1895 on and sold them to burghers at cost. They are stamped and marked.. Otherwise Krag Jorgensons were issued to some Commandos and the ZARP police in 1880.
Lee-Metfords by 1880 surely?
Brad Brassman The Lee Metford wasn't invented until 1888, so that's not possible. But I can't see them using Martini Henrys.
Apparently they were field-trialed by British troops long before 1888, during which year it officially replaced the Martini Henry, but it was under development at least nine years prior to that. British troops had it in plenty of time for the Second Boer War, so its possible that these were used in this engagement.
Boers: "We know where you are and we have you surrounded."
British Officer: "How on earth would you know that? Our orders were strictly secret!"
Boers: "We followed the sound of a marching band and the sight of bright red walking targets."
British Officer: "Witchcraft!"
Lol... The commander was just your average gentry with no real experience. If it had been a commander like Horatio Shirley or others, I doubt very much the outcome would have been what it was. You can find a whole lot of commanders with experience but yet, I can't find this guy... except the one that commanded 62nd foot.
Lets show them de wae
Haha in Holland we call that: ‘boerenverstand’, not witchcraft👻🇱🇺🇱🇺🇱🇺
It is hard to believe the British won given so many of their officers were so completely incompetent. No vanguard, no flankers, no scouts. Then gets tipped off your in an ambush by the ambushers and does not pull back out of it, or even deploy for battle.
hahahahah
Col./General von Letteow-Voerbeck learned his trade in this war.
Perfected in German East Africa, WWI
Unbeaten!
play loud music, wear brightly colored uniforms and march like a boss through enemy land...man that's a recipe for disaster
+SkyFire
No.. they would have been eaten up as well had it not been an island nation.
It does not really work to judge the actions of 19th century people by our today's standpoints heavily influenced by modern technology and the outcome of it for field tactics.
Before there were machine guns, armoured vehicles and airplanes, the display of power - and also an act of self-empowerment - was to make a presence in the most recognisable and impressive way. It is a bit like showing of in the way of presenting your confidence in capability to overcome all circumstances. Hence the 19th century-related ideals of manliness.
Conquest worked in showing your presence ("and the cunning use of flags" to quote Eddie Izzard) and maintain the dominance. First impress, then inflict fear if necessary by the use of violence.
The old concept of gallantry was to face a situation against the odds and thereby show will and determination and skill. That would reveal your true quality as a man and a leader and a role model.
And then there is the notion of seeing the opponent as inferior in general. This attitude also was very common in that era in every colonial scenario committed by all nations operating in that field.
Due to industrialisation and the exploding growth of knowledge through scientific research activities the faith to master every difficulty was very strong.
praeceptor nice speech man but that set of ideas didn't save these guys from being man-butchered like lambs in this 'ere ambush
No doubt.
It always happens when the concepts of warfare differ.
That's why the use of the crossbow was deemed unknightly, irregulars are treated differently and snipers can't be sure to be taken prisoner if they surrender.
praeceptor who knows what type of warfare the future holds, what exotic weapons man will invent to kill his fellow man...like someone said (forgot his name) I quote "as long as there are men there will be wars" end quote
love the band you know just in case any enemy waiting to ambush you didn't notice the massive dust cloud and red uniforms
A resounding defeat for the British. That's probably why I've never heard of this battle before.
Never mentioned in the classrooms of us Baby Boomers where half the map high on every classroom was painted red.
@@VerbranntiChaib1 Come on...everyone knew how tough the Boer War was...the British generally like to celebrate effective enemies
Don't be a tit...Zulu Dawn, Dunkirk, A Bridge Too Far...the British are the only ones to make films about their setbacks
Did you hear about the eventual capitulation of the Boers or tgeir disgusting treatment of the natives and invention of apartheid unfer the guise of Christian values? Quite so. Winning individual engagements does not win wars.
Its generally the Americans who don't like to mention their defeats.
*The First Boer War was one of the first overseas fights* where lessons from the War Between the States were implemented. The Afrikaner bushwhack shown here was similar to Northern Virginia's surprise attack on Potomac on day one of The Wilderness sixteen years earlier, but in tall grass rather than forest. Both sides had cartridge rifles here; the British army strandardized on the Martini-Henry, while the Afrikaner commandos packed Remington Rolling Blocks, Sharps falling-blocks, and other cartridge single-shots.
Then they got Mausers
@@squalofelice for the 2nd Anglo Boer war 20 tears later.
@@squalofelice This is 1881 which the Boers won.
The war you are referring to was from 1899 to 1902 ...
First boer war the .450 Westley Richards, a falling-block, single-action, breech-loading model rifle, with accuracy up to 600 yards was used. Second boer war Mauser 1895, from Germany. Where did you get Remington from? Remington rifle's were used by some but wasn't popular, Remington revolvers however were popular, there were colt and Winchesters used too but the .450 Wesley Richards was the rifle of choice
@@tonyvanderhelm2934 they had gewehr 71...
3:45 Man walks like that horse is the biggest inconvenience.
I know the Brits lost this battle but damn that was a quick reaction the way they quickly formed up without delay and panic.
They lost because they were kids with a toy gun in their hand, compared to the Boers. This is like FC Barcelona vs your local amateur soccer club.
@@dutchskyrimgamer.youtube2748 More like Man United against barcelona *but Man U had prepared to play rugby instead.
The British had the best trained army in the world, at that time, in drill and fighting experience. The Boers had the element of surprise, marksmanship and they knew their home territory. Never mind the fact that they're tough as nails. It's why people like Churchill and Sherlock Holmes respected them so much.
Didn't lose battle held ground
"You have two minutes to make up your mind". Shouldn't the British commander have suspected that a trap had been set? I mean, the way the messenger said it just sounded like "If you don't turn back now, you will all die"
ElAshtonio Of course, but the war hadn't started so he was calling their bluff and didn't expect to be fired on.
ElAshtonio
That's what I thought as well. In a case like this gotta wonder what would've been the best tactics for the British. The Boers were hidden away and the British were out in the open.
The English did not realize the "power of the Mauser".
During the First Anglo Boer war the boers did not have Mauser rifles ( That was the 2nd Anglo Boer war 1899-1902) They used Martini Henry rifles during this war ( 1881 ).
I'm a Brit but I'm ashamed of what we did to the Boers. The battle of Spion Kop is still subtly acknowledged in Liverpool. The whole idea of British Colonialism was to profit the safely-distanced rich at the expense of anyone who stood in their way - on both sides, British soldier or native. Wealthy profiteers still exist today, killing around the world as they go. Sies mon, I'm heartily sick of it.
Not to disparage Anfield's use of the term, but lots of sports ground have had steep single tier terraces behind one goal that are called Kop. The first recorded reference was in 1904 where a local journalist likened a the stand at Woolwich Arsenal's Manor Ground to soldiers standing on the hill at the Battle of Spion Kop.
2sepgorillas
I’m a Boer and I’m sick of my ancestors who killed black African parents in order to capture and enslave their young children. My ancestors were a filthy load of uneducated slavers and I hate them for that. Thank god the British came in an thought them some manners. The British should rejoice every year on the anniversary of their final defeat of the evil boers. The British made the world a better place. I am 100% descended from the Boers.
augnkn93043 your people are fucking legends and you should be proud.
@@augnkn93043 you are trying to hard to convince us that you are a Boer - why is that ?
@@augnkn93043 Het jy geweet die sogenoemde swart nasies wat uit sentraal Afrika suidwaart getrek het , het die arme KHoisan boesman nasies verkrag en vermoor soveel so dat die boesmans uit KZN moes vlug na die Kalahari woestyn.
Dit help nie om skuldig te voel oor vroeer geskiedenis nie,
Aanvaar dat niemand lewend vandag skuldig is daaraan.
Yes, the British army had a lot to learn, in both Boer wars and after. But even allowing for all their mistakes, they would certainly not go marching along in column without having scouts out at the front and flanks. The Zulu war gave them a lesson in using a little more caution.
Yes but we leant a lot from that war that helped us mobilise and fight WW1
They did have flankers who reported Boer activity beside the intelligence from local farmers, not to mention the chance given them by the envoy sent.
Unfortunately this is completely inaccurate.
The video clip would have us believe that a colonel in the British army encountered armed Boer fighters while advancing, and made no attempt to ready his troops for battle. This is a great disrespect to col Anstruther who was a trained military man.
I lived in Bronkhorstspruit exactly where this battle took place and many of the Boer families still live there. What a pity this is so distorted.
The British were marching on Pretoria in order to anex the capital of the Transvaal republic. Some farmers (Boer) banded together in order to resist the foreign power from invading their republic. The Boers had no military training.
The British advance stopped when they saw the Boer forces on horseback along the ridge - not lying in the grass.
The sight of the boers on horseback caused Col Anstruther to immediately order his men into battle formation, ready for volley fire (a prudent military response to sighting armed enemy horsemen). Both sides faced off with each other while the Boer horseman approached the commander of the British.
When the boer rider (named De Beer) approached the British formation, the British were already in "open order" ready to fire.
When the boers were first sighted at 500 yards along the ridge, the order was given for the British Martini Henry rifle sights to be set at 500 yards.
With the rapid advance of the boers, the British did not reset their rifle sights for closer engagement (200 or 150 yards).
This simple blunder caused most of the British volley fire to pass harmlessly over the advancing Boers.
It is unclear who fired the first shot with each side blaming the other.
The result was that a group of farmers fighting for their homeland decimated the mighty British army and sparked the "First Boer War".
Thank you Peter ... 100 persent correct .. the British force was marching from Lydenburg to reinforce the garrison in Pretoria.
@@tonyvanderhelm2934, 100 percent bullshit: _"A Boer messenger, Burgher de Beer, who spoke English well, approached the head of the column under a flag of truce and bearing a letter, and informed Lt.-Col. Anstruther that his men would shoot within a few minutes. This instruction came from the triumvirate who had declared the independence of the South African Republic from British administration. Anstruther refused and the Boers opened fire, reportedly at 12:30pm, before he could move his column into skirmish formation. De Beer had given Anstruther six minutes, but some of the Boers began firing before that time expired."_
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bronkhorstspruit
The British had cleared out the Zulus and were exhausted. The Boers shouldve cooked them a nice dinner..
That very well might have been the case ,but i prefer the the Holyburg version.
Thanks for the correction. Movie producers never seem to prefer the truth.
Man 1 : Battle of Bronkhorstspruit
Man 2 : Bless you !
I am a Boer but I cringed when I watched this...It is not easy to stomach. I have to remind myself that it was war and that we were facing a legitimate trained army with superior weapons and superior numbers with a whole empire behind them. But still! It was a massacre not a proper battle.
I can just marvel at the folly of the British who believed that the threat of war and the mere show of force would suffice to make the Boers capitulate and surrender. I think the British counted on that. Too bad the Boers didn't read the script......?" You are just farm boys...... you can't fight an empire!?"
But its good to note that the British learned a valuable lesson during the First Boer War. It was the last war in which they used their upright battle stance strategy. They also changed their red tunics out and when they returned for the Second Boer War, they wore Khaki uniforms to blend in with the veld landscape of the Highveld.
Another thing they learned and adopted during the Boer war was trench warfare! I stand corrected, but I think the Boer War was the first time that soldiers dug trenches to fortify their positions. At least that was what my primary school teacher told us some 50 years ago. If it is true, then it is the most terrible "gift" the Boers could give to the world - trench warfare! Just think of the millions of soldiers who died in those hell holes of the 1st World War! A crying shame....!
My grandfather was one of them. Pity I was never able to meet him.
@@gotcha1885 My great, great grandfather went up Majuba under fire.
One of the 2 Boers that died in the battle was shown in this movie at 4:40
The other at 4:50
One of their deaths was Covid
This deserves an HBO series.
My Grandfather was at the Relief of Ladysmith . Also Spien Kop. Brits were down to their last horse. Eating them, not riding them. He was a Signaler in the QRR. [ Queen's Own Rifles } . Took the signal ; Queen Victoria had died.
ARE U HONEST?
best soldiers in the world ,fight like lions lead by retards
He fought under General Buller.
Thats cool but that was 20 years after this war :-D
+Make Water Safe
Still relevant because it was the very last of the Boer Wars. Also it would be somewhat harder to find a grandson of a person who fought in the war during the 1880s.
A truly glorious sight to see. Not as beautiful as the Battle of Isandlwana but still a cheerful video for a Saturday afternoon.
Marching with music on a free field with an commander high on a horse - making your enemy a happy day with a dance!
Boers and Rhodeys had to the some of the hardest bastards on the planet. Some of the best examples of the European race. Respect from UK.
@Margaret Gust They also developed suitable military tactics to subdue the Boers...in particular light cavalry/rangers
The Brits essentially gave up the element of surprise by marching with a brass bland playing so loudly.....
Movies like this make you appreciate smokeless powder.
I respect the Boers more than any other enemy. The greatest we ever had
Zulus, Gurkhas, plenty others to compare.
Oh, really? I seem to remember some chap called Napoleon, and a bunch of chaps called the Wehrmacht. Or are you saying beating them was piece of cake?
@@DieFlabbergast Yes.
Whatch Rugby
Pretty accurate depiction of this "battle" (more of a skirmish since there were fewer than 600 total combatants, 268 British and 250 Boers). A few things: the British were wearing there famous scarlet tunics, the last war in which they would, but they had removed their helmet badges and dyed their helmets khaki with tea or coffee by this point serving in South Africa, a similar mistake made by the famous movie Zulu. Also, it shows many of the Boers using Martini-Henry rifles, which were common among the Boers, but the most popular weapon of for the Boers at the time, before they received large shipments of Mausers from Germany, was the Westly-Richards Falling Block rifle.
This depicts a battle during the 1st Anglo Boer war { 1881 } the Mausers were used during the 2nd Anglo Boer war. ( 1899 - 1902 )
There actually is a (video) if I may call it that of a surviving Boer and Brit schermish on the internet (they are around 80+) where they describe the battle.
Mausers, now There's! a rifle!
It was the style to walk bravely and seemingly oblivious to the danger they may be approaching.
Not in every situation, but some situations called for cool, calm bravery instead of a loud Banzai rush ing charge.
NO..COMING FROM THE BRITS OF THAT TIME...
IT WAS UTTER ARROGANCE...!
nothing has changed nowadays..with the yanks..
ARROGANCE....PURE AND SIMPLE
and a too big a dose of
religious beliefs that god would protect them..duh..
@@dominiqueschaffner308 Individuals vary...Are you grouping different country's men by assigning typical characteristics to each one? That's personal prejudice of one country over another....Not PC, my boy...
The Brits, Yanks and Aussies all did it often, just to approach like they were on an evening stroll.
Of course, it wasn't that way in a pitched infantry engagement, but when entering into the unknown,
some would show such bravado.
So, you hate the Brits, the Yanks, AND God? ( And LOUDLY!), but not the Krauts, eh, Schaffner?
Tell your commanding officer to kindly Foxtrot Oscar, there’s a good chap
Haha! Excellent Clamb-J!
AWESOME!
The Boers were marksmen, they wouldn't fight the Brits up close and personal. Rather they would pick them off one by one. They were trained at a young age how to shoot and often did so in the prone position. These guys could shoot a tick off a fleas ass!
There is a extensive documentary on youtube on the Boers and their Maussers (2nd Boer war). They did not have bajonets, as they never would let the English come that close.
Great Boers Warriors
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Here’s my take on firearms in 2023 and in 1880. In 2023, lots of people own lots of guns but how many people actually know how to use them? In 1880, everyone owned a few guns and I’m pretty sure everyone knew how to use them.
British officers would walk around the battlefield with a naked sword in their hands,which was like telling the Boer snipers:"I'm over here".
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it never fails. the "redshirts" always are the ones who get killed on every mission.
What this fails to show, is that the commander was an imbecile, and Britain had a few gentry type trying to make a name for themselves.
Really, very musical on advance, and no scouts, no skirmishers? Really?
The Russian did, practically, the same during their invasion of Finland in 1939.
Who is so stupid to attack Finland in December, with soldiers in olive uniforms meant for southern climate?
With the band on the head of the soldier colum.
The Finns told the russians were very polite, to stand up in the snow, easy to be picked, one after the other.
Russia won the war the following spring. They conquered enough land to bury all their dead (and they were a lot).
You have to remember, this was the first war in which the British encountered guerilla tactics with breech-loading rifles. Before that, muzzleloaders had been the order of the day, and remember, every general prepares to fight the last war, not the current one. There were noted changes from this conflict in British military tactics. Khaki uniforms were introduced and the famous "Redcoat" uniform began to be phased out. British tactics changed as well to incorporate more flexibility that more modern weaponry permitted. In the Second Boer War, British tactics were quite different. Don't forget, most Europeans thought cavalry charges were still a valid tactic at the start of WWI, not realizing the machine gun had ended that as a practical tool of war.
They fought the Americans who used Guerrilla warfare.
And the British commander, out in the lead, then tells him their plans !
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Amazing how much faster the Boers fired than the British.
british batallions looked like they were going to a birthday party
didn't know there were any movies about the boer war...thanks!
There were 2 Boer Wars, this is the First Boer War 1880-1
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@@СаулТарвиц-з7ы What?`
Breaker Morant.
Most schools don't teach that.How a small island..influenced world history for the last 500 years. for the better I believe.\
you're going to die laughing when you saw them acting.
Ok so from the real accounts, the commander order the rear supplies to bring up ammunition as the men was not expecting a fight. It took too long so when the first shot were fired, the column was pretty much trapped and ill prepared. They didnt continue marching as depicted in the movie after receiving the message.
what gets me, besides the uniforms, band, etc.... is there is no mounted point or flankers... shouldn't that have been common sense by then????
@@davidbruce5524 I believe this was to reinforcement to bring order to a trouble region of South Africa. The commander thought it was more like a riot that broke out and he was being sent to bring order instead of a full on rebellion.
First Boer war was a definite shock for the the Brits. We'd been fighting mostly tribesman to that point and the Boers certainly didn't play by the rules old boy! Kudos to the Boers though for what was essentially a motley bunch of farmers.
Quite similar to the american colonies some 100 years earlier
Toby Tawaqal American colonies were slaughter for the colonists in the first two generations where are you citing that from?
They just sit there in their bright red uniforms in the middle of an open field.
"Legion soldiers gleam like fresh fallen snow and clank like a kitchen. They head this way, we'll know it." ~ some Boer, 4E 1880.
Yep thats how war conducted back then soilders would stand really nice and close to eachover just incase you miss to make you definetly hit someone
Boondock Saint There one step away from having targets attached to their chests
Boondock Saint - the brits learnt a lot from that war. khaki uniforms. commando units and they used concentration camps
Daniel rogers
The red was to help pick each other out from the smoke of the battlefield. Don't ask me why 'cause that's just what I've heard...
the battle of Bronkhorstspruit was in december 1880. smokeless powder was not invented until 1884. before that large engagements produced so much smoke as to obscure the soldiers from their commanders further back. colourful uniforms were the norm before the 20th century so as to make it easier to make out the soldiers in the thick smoke. skirmishers, of couse, did not want to be seen, wich is why german Jägers and the british Green Jackets, for example, wore green uniforms, rather than prussian blue/scarlet, and portugese Caçadores wore brown uniforms.
What is the name of the march the British band is playing?
As King Solomon said, "Vanity all is Vanity" and to that may I add arrogance!
Courageous Boers ⚡👍😊.
The Republic of the Transvaal deserves independence 😍.
BRITAIN FOREVER COWARDLY TACTICS FROM THE BOERS DIDNT HAVE THE BOTTLE TO ENGAGE US ON OPEN GROUND
Awesome. What is the name of this film?
How the "mighty" are fallen. Serious dose of reality.
The British are really easy to see with those bright red uniforms and white helmets. That probably didn't help them at all.
How about a video of the battle of Paardeberg for a change
We learn.
Then win.
You can't have excellent safety at sea without a Titanic first.
Yeah, you learned that you couldn't beat the boers in battle, so you locked up their women and children in concentration camps.
......NAH JUST COULDN'T GET THEM TO FIGHT LIKE MEN.
BulletBill64 worked though didnt it
...he had plenty of his own. Anyway he's just a minor league mass murderer, why don't you mention Uncle Joe or the chairman, now the were experts.....
The Brits actually had pretty good battle drill.
They just had terrible spacing and security.
No. The guy, like many, was inexperienced and pretty much out to make a name for themselves. Or to put it another way, he purchased his way to his position.
You have to give cerdit where it is due. It takes a lot of guts to stand and fight like the British did when everyone around you gets slaughtered. In retrospect it is not clever, but they followed orders and did not break rank. For that I salute them.
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Battle begins at 3:33
That German general iWWI (von Lettow-Vorbeck) did the same.Cut off from supplies from Germany he was able to hold out for five years tying down about 350,000 British troops that could have been used in Europe. He found out about the German surrender five months after the fact.
Fine soldier but the troops he tied down were mainly natives on both sides. The German government paid their askaris pensions right up to the last one died
Sorry but a "battle" Bronkhorstspruit does not make. A skirmish yes a battle no.
Its actually a nice tune wafting across the plains 🎵
ikr what march song is it?
@@WanEdrysfahmin The song is called "Kiss me Mother Darling" Unfortunately I couldn't find any videos on RUclips the march other than this movie, here is longer version of the music ruclips.net/video/sAKn8lB1YL8/видео.html
3:39 RIP acting skills.
*EUH*
EUH
Favorite rifle of the Boers in this war was the .450 Westley Richards falling-block, single-action, breech-loading rifle. Several factors may have worked against the British. The Boers were protected by a low ridge and the British were essentially out in the open. The range was rather close, about 150 yards. Force was about equal. I am wondering about wind conditions. The British fired high which could have been effected by wind blowing the black powder from the Boers back in their faces as well as their own (soldiers blinded by black powder tend to fire high unless under strict discipline and the Boers tended to target officers first) and the British soldiers were not trained for small accuracy. The Boers, by nature, hunters, could sight small.
Stupidity was the deadliest weapon that day.
No forward scouts, no telescopes employed by officers, and the Lt Col. is depicted as firing a hand gun at a target at least 500 yards away. I doubt he would have lasted long serving under Wellington over 50 years prior to this engagement.
"Well, Seargent, the thing is.....one of the officers has lost a leg"
Very good Boers. Well done
Их победа вдохновила Индию!
Lol, lets march around and play some loud ass music and see what happens, cause we're cool like that lol
They had rifles in the Napoleonic wars,namely the Baker rifle and I do think that the British would have had skirmish lines out.
It seems like the British were marching on a peacetime footing, hence the music and lack of scouts. During wartime they would have had light cavalry scouting ahead.
Also this is a movie and movies tend to be utterly shit at showing proper tactics and procedures; the director might just have thought that having the British march to music with no scouts would work for the story he was trying to tell and ignored his historical advisor.
Ignoring historical advisors is something of a tradition among filmmakers.
Crazy Wolfgang. LOl. You got thrashed in this first war, went away with your tail between your legs, and spent the next 19 years gathering the biggest army you have ever had to this day to fight FARMERS. Why? Because you cowards knew if you came alone again, even with all your modern arms and logistics, you would have been thrashed again and more than before. Pomp, like ath arrogant Col. AnSTRUTTER, did not help him at all MAN TO MAN. Every war since the American war of independance you have been beaten. Since you have had to call on the Yanks twice to save you asses.
Its the British way
Mr. Shanky. Yes, we know that, no mercy even for thousands of your own who were dying of hypothermia and starvation at this very time while you squandered millions on this war in the pursuit of diamonds, gold and other minerals. Empire bully boys, but only when you have the numerical and logistic advantage as is typical of a coward. But in this war, as in the American war of independence you got whipped no end. especially old AnSTRUTTER.
whats the name of the march
The worse thing you can do is kneel and fire. you make yourself a perfect target. The Boers could not lose this battle.
You make yourself a bigger target by standing.
Well that had to be absolutely frightening for that column. To be caught in the open like that. That was a lot of lead being sent in their direction.
Ok we got slaughtered but hey it was worth being there only for the music !
Someone below says the British commander "screwed" his men, but I think not so; the man was Lt-Col Philip Anstruther and he had orders to proceed immediately to Pretoria. At this stage there had been no fighting and he was not expecting an ambush on the scale that the Boers had laid. Anstruther pointed out that his orders insisted that he march on to Pretoria "and to Pretoria he would go". The result was a massacre; the colonel died himself a few days later of wounds.
"Quick ! Tell them that Boers have set a trap at Brank... Bronkho... Bronkoj... something"
Nobody can invade a dutch country without getting lost.
It is an African country.
@Peter Don’t know how you can come up with that conclusion 350,000 British vs 80,000 Boers. On top of that the illegal tactics of the scorched earth policy and concentration camps.
On top of that the Australians showed up late. BTW I have heard Canadians and Welsh make the same claim as you.
I think Wales have even worse town names than the Dutch or the Boers.
@@randmorf That's why after centuries of failing invasion, king Edward built fortresses with French or English names. His lords could ask for help "west of Beaumaris" instead of "near Llansadwrn".
@@randmorf If the British were fighting the Dutch ,... why didn't they just invade Holland ...It's just an English channel away.
Well, it was a 250 men shooting squad vs a nicely marching band of nearly the same amount of people clad in neon red uniforms. How long something like this was supposed to last anyway? I'd say that if it took 15 minutes, then it took 15 minutes longer than it should have.
And... Jesus Christ youtube, how the hell did I end up here anyway? I was supposed to be looking for some .32 ACP gel tests, not some random history video!
Still +1'ed it for the Russell Crowe ancestor extra seen at 3:18
lol i was listening to The Jam ,wtf,i'll watch this anyway
No such thing as Blasphemy any longer mate; besides, he never even existed.
***** Dear Henry,
Blasphemy involves insulting God, which I did not, I just sinned against the 2nd Commandment and took His name in vain.
But, lo-and-behold, the last time I stepped into a church was when my brother decided it was a good idea to get married. So there goes the third Commandment.
I also get into heated arguments with my parents, which would go against the 4th, and really like to get laid with my hot gf, and off the window flew yet another Commandment.
But... I'm a divorcee... however, where's the Commandment that rules against that? Oh right, there's none, because the People of Moses needed order and laws to get to the Holy Land, and mainly, get well into the reproduction business, something He supports and we can see when He didn't seem to mind earlier when Abraham stuck it into his servant 'cause his wife just couldn't get pregnant.
Soooo.... welp, we're Human, and even when our lack of perfection is no excuse to sin, then still, whoever is free of it, feel free to throw the first stone :-)
May you all have a nice day :-D
Dear Henry, with all due respect, I think you're misunderstanding me. I never tried to imply I was taking pride in being a sinner, which after all, we all are. And commiting a sin doesn't mean that somebody hates Jesus, it just means that a rule has been broken, just like skipping a red light on purpose doesn't mean you hate your country. Well I hope to have cleared things up. May you have a nice day.
Your lord, not mine. And of course, have a nice day.
The American Civil War and the Boer War showed the world that the tactics of old had become extremely obsolete due to the advancement of firearms. The line formations, uniforms, and music during battle and marching just couldn’t continue. The evolution began during the Russo-Japanese and the Spanish-American Wars but finally reached the more modern style of today during the Second World War of small fireteams and cover then advance combat.
We were all able to share a nice cup of tea in the end. Jan Smuts wrote the paper recommending the formation of the Royal Air Force.
Thank you sir. Jan Smuts was one of the Boer generals. Do yourself a favour and read up on his history and achievements later in the British Commonwealth. He was instrumental in the Irish independence, the United Nations, was the shadow Prime minister of Britain during WW II (in case Winston Churchill got killed), amongst others. His contribution to the British Empire (and the world) after the the Second Boer War is huge.
@@ockertbrits6907 what makes you think I didn’t already know much of his history. Not just any Tom dick or Harry who was a former enemy, could come along and be highly influential in the formation of a new Armed Service in another country. Clearly, he had a lot of punch with Churchill. I’m a former Commando. Guess what, I even know where that name originates #shakesheadindisbelief
@@gl2773 Right on! Thank you. It was were it originated, Kommando with a K and not a C. It never existed in the English language until Churchill who was so impressed with the tactics lauded it. My youngest son trained as a Marine.
@@davethorstry6700 someone says they know origins of a word, then gets told where it came from 😂 I hope your son had a good career as a boot neck.
The boers were great fighters!
You can't shoot at a band! It's simply not done.
poor soldiers can you imagine marching on that horrible music for hours
John Black That sort of music helps with staying in unison. You can easily march at a constant speed at the beat of the drums.
Try listening to Bieber music while marching in the heat.
Boers really set the bar. The up-coming Mexican revolutionaries would learn a lesson or two from Boer tactics.
Fortunately, the Britts wised up somewhat and went to a tan colored khaki uniform for the second Boer War.
One only hopes the change in uniform also enabled a change to "no marching band", I'd hate to be marching behind a band in the open veld signalling my position to every hostile in the area. Clearly field tactics have advanced since then!
What March are they playing?
Henry Savage it should be kiss me mother darling
I saw this in 1863 right after its release. Good flick.
On DVD or streaming ?
What movie is this from?
Thomas Larkin
Una de tantas batallas perdidas por los británicos, aunque luego las vendieran como victorias. Ejemplo paradigmático el frustrado intento de conquista de Cartagena de Indias por el almirante Vernon, derrotado de forma brillante por el capitán general español D. Blas de Lezo. A pesar de la humillante derrota, los ingleses acuñaron una moneda para festejar la victoria que hubieran deseado.
'Brilliantly defeated'?
Are we talking about the same battle here?
All de Lezo did was burn his ships, and sit in the fortress and wait for disease to kill the enemy.
Tone your pride down pal
@@lollius88Tu ignorancia está a la altura de tu dogmatismo. Cómo os duele cuando la verdad se impone sobre vuestra repugnante arrogancia.
That 'ol black powder (gun powder) sure gave away a person's position back then. Not like the smokeless gun powder of today.
It was also a good thing when soldiers gave up smoking pipes and cigarettes and switched to smokeless powder. Put a little bit in your cheek for that great tobacco flavor.
It's always nice when the people you're shooting rifles, at are obliging enough to wear bright red uniforms, that make such excellent targets. a very traditional military unwilling to adapt to changing conditions, will pay a heavy cost in men for that unwillingness. Like Pickets charge, brave and a spectacular show, but doomed before it began.
Those 11mm cartridges tho
Those are transvaal cigars
5:13 when you are taking a big crap.
The Stock Exchange War, as it was known at the time.
We need a Monty Python version of this!
I believe The Meaning of Life had a Boer War scene, not necessarily this battle. I believe one of the Pythons was smoking a pipe and reading a book as his leg was amputated in a tent while all hell was breaking loose outside.
Listen to " Spionkop by the Goon Show "
Strange to see all these with martini henry rifles as the boers had a lot of Mauser rifles.
No at this stage they didn't. The Mausers were purchased and used during the Second Boer War, 20 years later.
I wonder when our British army realised wandering around the bush with a marching band and dressed in bright red uniforms was maybe not the best idea of all time ,quite remarkable nobody suggested it at the time .
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In the movie you see a lot of smoke when the Boers fire their rifles. This is not historically correct. The Boers used modern Mauser rifles with cartridges that produced very little smoke. This was one of the reasons for the successes of the Boers on the battlefield: they attacked from their hidden positions and the British hardly could find out where the enemy was that decimated their ranks because they were invisible.
euroka Nico den Heijer That was the second Boer war. This film depicts the first Boer war when the British used martini Henry rifles firing a 45 caliber black powder cartridge. The boers were using similar types made by Westly Richards also firing black powder. I have owned and used martini rifles here in South Africa where I live. An interesting little bit of information about the second boer war is that some of the older boer soldiers would prefer their martinis to the Mauser but because of the black powder smoke the other boer troops wouldn’t allow them into their positions as the smoke would give them away to the British.
This depicts the First not the Second Boer War . Mauser's were not yet in use( the official adoption was the 1893 Mauser ) and the Boers used a mixture of rifles including various types of 'Martini 'actioned rifles. using black powder cartridges
They're firing blanks anyway, so there's gonna be some smoke. Especially with that god-awful 1960s soundtrack, they might want more powder and smoke a) so you can tell they're firing their guns and b) so it sounds like a gun going off and not like pop-rocks.
Wrong war, poes