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  • Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
  • S04EP45| In today's episode of The Breakfast Club, Zenzele Ndebele speaks to CCC Acting President; Prof. Welshman Ncube. #Asakhe @followers @highlights

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  • @DungasheNyazitha
    @DungasheNyazitha 6 месяцев назад +3

    If prof can be given chance to lead he is more matured in politics has got leadership qualities we need brave man like him that can confront a buffalo and hold it with his hones kunini sithenjiswa I bullet train maqabane we're stuck here.

  • @delightmatarutse844
    @delightmatarutse844 7 месяцев назад +11

    Prof ,may the Lord judge you accordingly

  • @nkululekomasilonkululeko4426
    @nkululekomasilonkululeko4426 7 месяцев назад +4

    The Prof is a mature and brilliant politician resourceful enough to continue playing a pivotal role in the country. he never insulted or blasphemed his attackers. I personally know this man what a think tank. Siziba learn from this political guru. and u will learn the trade ropes..

    • @samgidds
      @samgidds 6 месяцев назад

      Even if you perceive him as a guru, everyone makes mistakes seasoned champions like him included. To me it was a huge mistake to wash his hands sitting in the terraces as Tshabangu devastated CCC.

  • @Gagisa2712
    @Gagisa2712 7 месяцев назад +13

    Champions of insults will always ignore facts and stick to undemocratic leadership. Thank you Prof for clarity🙏

  • @GlobaljusticeTalk
    @GlobaljusticeTalk 7 месяцев назад +17

    The most secretive issue is the most apparent .When all is said and done,political strategy must be backed by numbers . Politics is a game of numbers my good Prof . I can not fault your intellect , you are up there , but i am not convinced that the organization you intent to breath life into is still alive.You are flogging a dead horse. Plus , nothing happens by accident in politics . Tshabangu is a creature of those who are now caucusing to give CCC a new direction.

    • @rascocky6366
      @rascocky6366 7 месяцев назад

      Name names and give evidence because right now there are 3 or so CCC factions!! Tshabangu has his own which is totally different and against the one in which Biti, Ncube, Kore, etc are! If they had worked together Tshabangu and A. Mhlanga would have roasted Biti and Ncube!!

  • @faraimarutaya3207
    @faraimarutaya3207 7 месяцев назад +10

    The same way you failed to stop Tshabangu and Chamisa's dictatorship is exactly the sign that you cannot be trusted anymore. A true leader rises in times of turmoil and safe guards the gains of the people. You failed on that and this loud voice not will not save anything. We can't be talking about 2019, after all the poisoning from Khupe and Mwonzora. No, we needed something totally untainted. Taking us back to 2019 is mischief!

  • @Pagasus
    @Pagasus 7 месяцев назад +23

    Who & where was Tshabangu in relation to Gweru 2019? And how does Welshman know him,for him to even be able to call him and just accept whatever he did?🤔 Very strange

    • @Mashinge
      @Mashinge 7 месяцев назад +2

      Exactly, Tshabangu was not even at Gweru congress?

    • @josephmumhari6535
      @josephmumhari6535 7 месяцев назад +2

      Mutengesi

    • @rainmaker6434
      @rainmaker6434 7 месяцев назад +3

      What’s very strange is why you still believe Chamisa’s lies that he doesn’t know Tshabangu when we all have seen pictures of them together. Everybody in the CCC leadership knows Tshabangu

    • @josephmumhari6535
      @josephmumhari6535 7 месяцев назад

      @@rainmaker6434 kutorwa ma pick vese hakurevi chinhu nokuti chamisa anokwanisa kutorwa ma picture na anyone even me but hazvirevi kuti ànondiziva chamisa munhu wevanhu uye ukanachamisa in ndokwabdichaenda

    • @josephmumhari6535
      @josephmumhari6535 7 месяцев назад +2

      Kunachamisa ndokwatoenda ndiye wega parizvino akafannira kutungamira Zimbabwe zvinwe zvese mahumbwe

  • @hadriandengu4587
    @hadriandengu4587 6 месяцев назад +2

    Mr Ndebele please take charge of your interview.

    • @mehlom8656
      @mehlom8656 2 месяца назад

      Well said mate. It looked like it was a Welshman rally.

  • @tinashemavurayi
    @tinashemavurayi 7 месяцев назад +5

    Chamisa has his faults and mistakes but the betrayal you did to the people movement this time will not be forgiven.

    • @priscillamuchena6765
      @priscillamuchena6765 7 месяцев назад

      True noone is perfect but these snakes only thought of themselves and betrayed us citizens who is a fool to believe them

  • @faraimhandire6281
    @faraimhandire6281 7 месяцев назад +30

    Zenzele should have made an obvious follow up . Professor give an example of the autocratic tendencies that Chamisa showed. If you don't probe as a journalist it leads to a shallow interview.

    • @rashidhamisi1597
      @rashidhamisi1597 7 месяцев назад +9

      Once one says the party has no positions, and he is the only person with a position.. thats a red flag

    • @sindisongwenya7734
      @sindisongwenya7734 7 месяцев назад

      U failed in your party ungumgodoyi

    • @TawandaSawi
      @TawandaSawi 7 месяцев назад +4

      He imposed hwende in kuwadzana as an example

    • @rascocky6366
      @rascocky6366 7 месяцев назад

      If you hadn't noticed Chamisa's autocratic tendencies from more than a year ago then read the recent Lovemore Chinoputsa's resignation letter it;s there on Bulawayo24, then we can discuss further. Have you EVER heard of a party leader who just abandons a party without OFFICIALLY informing other members of the party. Not only that but then calls for his supporters to attack, insult and threaten the very MPs that party leader had appointed just because they didn't follow him blindly to wherever he was going? Is that not dictatorship? When you hear people say "Chamisa owns the CCC" what does that mean? Is that democracy? Who puts their face on party regalia as the party symbol?

    • @truthhurts4100
      @truthhurts4100 7 месяцев назад +7

      Mahare was not a member of CCC; she contested as an independent candidate, but she was appointed party speaker from nowhere. You can choose to ignore Chamisa's autocratic tendencies, but they are all over you need to open your eyes

  • @Mbambe24
    @Mbambe24 7 месяцев назад +13

    Great wisdom Prof but I’m not happy with how you handled the Tshabangu case still.You called,asked and left it there instead of regrouping and fight this guy who gave more parliamentarians to ZANU.Looks like you just wanted to expose Chamisa because of his shortcomings.You chose to burn the house and try to rebuild it later.It might be to late now.Worse you want to engage Tshabangu after all this ,instead of expelling him as he acted authoritarian above all of you just as you are accusing Chamisa.Double faced.

    • @rejoicedube
      @rejoicedube 7 месяцев назад +1

      Chamisa was still lying that they don’t know who Tshabangu is at that time which was his chosen strategy to deal with the situation. How did you want him to deal with it?

    • @tonderaimaipenzi8346
      @tonderaimaipenzi8346 6 месяцев назад

      Indeed they were laughing in their armpits

    • @rascocky6366
      @rascocky6366 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@rejoicedube True. Chamisa is getting away with it while blaming others for his own failures!!

    • @rascocky6366
      @rascocky6366 6 месяцев назад +1

      Why do you want to FORGET and DISREGARD the fact that Ncube and Biti had been sidelined by Chamisa and couldn't form a parallel defence team against Tshabangu. Where Ncube is answerable is talking to and asking Tshabangu about the recalls then doing nothing further. Unless of course there were other things said which he is not revealing. Why is it NOT a SINGLE PERSON (including Chamisa) in the CCC want to CLARIFY who Tshabangu is exactly?

  • @lastonhussein6835
    @lastonhussein6835 7 месяцев назад +18

    You can hear Sengezo behind him

  • @ndodanasibanda764
    @ndodanasibanda764 6 месяцев назад +2

    Lesten careful if you are sincere enough you will understand this iconic guy .Only Gugurawundist can not understand this

  • @sylvestermushonga4620
    @sylvestermushonga4620 7 месяцев назад +19

    This man proves to be the voice behind Tshabangu. Clearly Tshabangu tried to explain exactly the same things the Prof is explaining. He didn't do it well because it wasn't his idea. Now the man who owns the idea has come hence the eloquence

    • @zvazvazva1270
      @zvazvazva1270 7 месяцев назад

      Hahahha Pro we will meet pambili le!

    • @davidmlambo1988
      @davidmlambo1988 7 месяцев назад +1

      This platform was for welsh to try and clear his name Zenzele did not ask him the facts on the ground. Anyway the train is gone.

    • @morisiojaya2890
      @morisiojaya2890 7 месяцев назад

      Was

  • @remypipe
    @remypipe 7 месяцев назад +3

    Zenzele my brother you are a very good journalist.. when you bring someone on your platform you let them speak their mind and you ask priceless questions..keep on keeping on

  • @TendaiHove-y4e
    @TendaiHove-y4e 6 месяцев назад +2

    Well said Prof. the party most of the time competes to be Zanu PF that needs to be done away. An interesting interview, leadership in motion.

  • @mazvelelakhabo4488
    @mazvelelakhabo4488 7 месяцев назад +5

    Now I can join ccc as long chamisa is not there chamisa thinks he is the only beater person

    • @rejoicedube
      @rejoicedube 7 месяцев назад

      True! Focusing on the things that matter

    • @blessedmatizira480
      @blessedmatizira480 7 месяцев назад +3

      Chamisa is the real deal, denying Zanu pf two thirds is no joke in an election

  • @ephiosmadondo3706
    @ephiosmadondo3706 7 месяцев назад +17

    I like it when the Prof said, people are not fools. Indeed the masses know their leaders, and some have taken the wrong turn. Time will tell

    • @rascocky6366
      @rascocky6366 7 месяцев назад

      unfortunately PEOPLE ARE FOOLS! They have been indoctrinated by zanupoof to such an extend that they think the zanupoof way of doing things is the best and when opposition leaders use the same method they find it normal. Intolerance to different opinion, spite, mudslinging, lies, verbal attacks, etc are all zanupoof methods and the people believe them without asking any questions or for evidence. That not how change comes with more of the same!! Where is democracy, accountability and transparency?

  • @cronwellmukodzo
    @cronwellmukodzo 7 месяцев назад +5

    Thats why Chamisa left ccc he had no ground to claim that its him who started the party nw i know where ccc started from

  • @shinginyamugama7516
    @shinginyamugama7516 7 месяцев назад +12

    Well articulated prof. Facts can be unpopular but they remain facts.

  • @TaringwaMunyonho-mh9pp
    @TaringwaMunyonho-mh9pp 7 месяцев назад +12

    So do u mean recalling mps was the best solution to solve your problems hence giving away our hard fought efforts

    • @blessingndoro3729
      @blessingndoro3729 6 месяцев назад

      He's tired of doing politics decided to mess up coming out with some desperate measures

  • @archibaldnyamayaro9490
    @archibaldnyamayaro9490 7 месяцев назад +4

    This guys is sharpand preaches a better realistic message than chamisa unfortunately

  • @brightmihlamabhena5833
    @brightmihlamabhena5833 7 месяцев назад +12

    There is a serious lack of maturity in the Zimbabwean politics and people at large, as long as Zimbabweans continue to support leaders based on their ethnicity, tribe and popularity instead political ideology we are doomed for another 100 years.

    • @udhogo
      @udhogo 6 месяцев назад +1

      Well said man.

    • @nkululekochakawa2642
      @nkululekochakawa2642 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you .

    • @dumontuliki855
      @dumontuliki855 6 месяцев назад

      The problem is with us the people the politicians are just capitalising on that

    • @brightondube7941
      @brightondube7941 5 месяцев назад

      powerful observation my Bro

  • @sammychani5594
    @sammychani5594 7 месяцев назад +5

    Ncube is saying Tshabangu was/is not CCC SG so if everybody denies the Tshabangu claim how come Zanu pf believed him??

  • @josephm71
    @josephm71 7 месяцев назад +4

    So Welshman called Chabangu 3 times without consulting the party organs? This man is a liar.

  • @aquelinemakwindi8797
    @aquelinemakwindi8797 7 месяцев назад +12

    Is Prof in other words saying Advocate Chamisa is an authoritarian 💁🏾‍♀️. Interesting 😊 which party are they planning to get back MDC or CCC?

    • @keabetsoencube7639
      @keabetsoencube7639 7 месяцев назад

      I all humbleness I know ure very intelligent is Chamisa a democrat or a Good dictactor … mind you its not wrong having a good dictactor 😅

    • @Rsham1970
      @Rsham1970 7 месяцев назад

      Very intelligent question

    • @TalentDarangwa-qu5ok
      @TalentDarangwa-qu5ok 7 месяцев назад

      Even kindergarten kidz can see this is nonsense

    • @samgidds
      @samgidds 6 месяцев назад

      No other words here. He is directly saying Chamisa is a dictator! Is he? I need the evidence.

  • @enockdzanas2420
    @enockdzanas2420 7 месяцев назад +27

    so tshabangu was right that he is working with some leaders in ccc

    • @rascocky6366
      @rascocky6366 7 месяцев назад

      That didn't come out from this interview. Your deductions are baseless. Ncube in this interview said there was a court decision and the he was "speaking: with Chamisa on that issue(of recalls).

    • @dumontuliki855
      @dumontuliki855 5 месяцев назад

      Yes he said it several times that chamisa is in agreement with what he is doing

    • @rascocky6366
      @rascocky6366 5 месяцев назад

      @@dumontuliki855 Saying it doesn't necessarily mean that's the truth. One has to listen to what the other side is also saying and MOST IMPORTANTLY the REALITY on the ground. Politicians always say things to please the listener but act differently!!

  • @aezean5618
    @aezean5618 7 месяцев назад +3

    This man is confused. If he insists CCC is MDC alliance, how come Mwonzora is not part of it. CCC is a new entity that members of MDC like Mwonzora could not be part of. It was formed by people who used to be MDC but it’s a new entity. This guy and his Tshabangu crew will not be in politics soon

  • @SKunetsa
    @SKunetsa 7 месяцев назад +6

    19:51
    So how did Tshabangu recall MPs?

  • @bheshu1
    @bheshu1 7 месяцев назад +16

    Zim has a leadership drought mainly bécause the majority of people approach politics like their bush churches. The idea that a popular leader does no wrong and is followed no matter what is a serious defect in Zim politics. These people just suspend their thinking abilities and shout stupid slogans like ED pfee, chamisa chete chete.

    • @rashedngadze8853
      @rashedngadze8853 7 месяцев назад +1

      The popular leader can do wrong but he gets MPs and Councillors elected the unpopular leaders recall the elected MPs and go on to lose the same constituents. You can now judge who people will trust here

    • @bheshu1
      @bheshu1 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@rashedngadze8853 Why not call the popular leader to account rather than just gloss over his wrongs?

    • @kaiganaxabystc4136
      @kaiganaxabystc4136 7 месяцев назад +1

      Leadership is about numbers and having people following. A wrong leader with a following is better than a right leader with no following.

    • @jedza3541
      @jedza3541 7 месяцев назад +1

      Haurevi nhema. I think zvitori mu DNA medu, just check karanganda TV. We respect authority to a fault. A Chief can trample on people's rights, and everyone will still 100% support him. Also noticed kuti there's little difference between MaProfita and n'anga. And these people are trusted so much they're like small gods. So I'm not surprised with the blind following that I see the zim politics. The people remind me of the Jews in the bible when asked by Pontius Pilate kuti tonunura ani Jesu kana kuti Barabbas they chose the criminal.

  • @rascocky6366
    @rascocky6366 7 месяцев назад +3

    Zenzele should have asked for further clarification about Tshabangu's actual position in the CCC and how he became the CCC SG since the Gweru congress didn't elect him.

  • @simbaguveya6471
    @simbaguveya6471 7 месяцев назад +7

    So who’s Sengezo Tshabangu ????

  • @mehlom8656
    @mehlom8656 2 месяца назад

    This man is more dangerous than ZANU as he masquerades as a democrat and a common sense guy. If Welshman was disgusted by Tshabangu's dirty work he should have castigated him and came out in the media to disown him. Keep in mind that Welshman, upon his appointment as an interim CCC leader, pledged to reach out to Tshabangu and never did anything to castigate Tshabangu for undermining people's democratic will. It baffles me that Welshman has said warm things about Tshabangu than he has said to Chamisa. It's equally disturbing that there seems to be more impetus to engage Tshabangu than engage Chamisa.
    I wonder how Welshman intends to engage ZANU as the ruling party is bent on destroying any opposition, unless if the opposition is a ZANU puppet. This implies that Welshman is either deluded or hiding from telling us his real objective here.
    Keep in mind that this self proclaimed democrat does not give any precise date for a CCC congress. You can get it from me that there will be no CCC congress this year as Welshman knows he has no political clout at all.
    Also note how Welshman evades to answer the question if he will contest at the next congress. One feels that the interviewer could have been a bit more critical and should have endeavoured the expose the unfounded claims in Welshman's submission.

  • @lancencube5205
    @lancencube5205 7 месяцев назад +8

    Problem is that fanatics of Chamisa want to hear what they want to hear and if anybody says the truth as it comes they are not liked.its sad.why can't people just be fair

    • @masvingozimuto
      @masvingozimuto 7 месяцев назад +1

      I hear you. May you can help some of us. What is it that Chamisa did wrong that pushed the good guys like Tshabangu to recall the people that were chosen by the electrolate?
      Why didn't Tshabangu fight Chamisa internaly than fight the will of the people?
      Now that Chamisa has left for Tshabangu to take over ( which is something you and Zanu should celebrate) why still attack the guy and his supporters?

    • @lancencube5205
      @lancencube5205 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@masvingozimuto let me help you.Chamisa did not repsect results of primary elections done by the party.He brought and imposed his people when he was being corrected internal he thought he is now a God who should not be challenged then this is the result of his actions.Tshabangu just wanted to put sanity in the part and let the will of the people reign in the party

    • @tapiwajames341
      @tapiwajames341 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@masvingozimutoif there is anyone attacking anyone is Chamisa fanatics they're like those people from the prophets churches the guy is clearly a dictator he imposed his own candidates he destroyed structures except his even the way he speaks is dictatorial come on open your eyes

    • @masvingozimuto
      @masvingozimuto 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@lancencube5205Okay fine. It seems we have 2 wills of the people. The will of the people in CCC who participated in the primary elections, and the will of the people who participated in general elections.
      The ones Chamisa imposed won the the general elections I don't know if they are any who lost. Even the double candidature the ones whom you claim won the primary elections lost.
      It is also surprising that after the recalls were made Tshabangu then got the people you are saying won the primary elections to represent CCC and they lost. I don't know if they are any who won. What I know is ZANU now have two thirds majority.
      Still let us assume you are correct that Chamisa made a blunder, would it not have been better to fight Chamisa than to recall the MPs .which were elected by people .
      Let me also educate you.
      You and I may for some reason not like Chamisa. But when God says that's the men to take Zimbabwe to the promised land , no superpower can stop him. We don't have to like him , but when the time has come, we can only fight him at our own risk. Leadership is not a title, leadership is responsibility. If you take it buy force it will bite you.

    • @kentaprises
      @kentaprises 6 месяцев назад

      🥱🥱🥱

  • @masvingozimuto
    @masvingozimuto 7 месяцев назад +1

    The questions, which no one wants to answer are
    1) How did Tshabangu get the powers to recall the MPs alone ? If he was not alone who was he working with and to achieve what.
    2) How do we expect Chamisa to build a strong team that he can work with when the same team wakes up and just go against the will of the people? It would have been better to fight Chamisa within than fight the will of the people you are perpoting they are the owners of the party.
    3) The electrorate is intelligent enough tto know why CCC did not have known structures. Infiltration has always been a problem.
    I will conclude by saying the real problem was created by ZANU and its agents within CCC so that you guys focus on useless recalls instead of disputed elections Chamisa knows that thats why he left because he knows where the power comes from.
    I listerned to Tshabangu only once when he was talking to Trevor Ncube. If you people call that guy a leader, then you are a big joke. After his recalls did you win? Is Zanu not having two third majority? and you still want to blame Chanisa.

  • @privilege_mufc
    @privilege_mufc 7 месяцев назад +7

    This was a lecture by Prof and not an interview.

  • @forbytsingano8389
    @forbytsingano8389 7 месяцев назад +6

    Why calling Hlabangu and not your President Chamisa to adress the anormally

    • @tanakatumba6230
      @tanakatumba6230 7 месяцев назад +1

      Coz is no longer part of CCC and declared to have nothing to do with it.

    • @rejoicedube
      @rejoicedube 7 месяцев назад +1

      Chamisa was still busy lying to voters that he does not know Tshabangu which meant no one could advise Chamisa to deal with Tshabangu properly

  • @ndodanasibanda764
    @ndodanasibanda764 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank u Prof you are a man .

  • @obertnyamanza3005
    @obertnyamanza3005 7 месяцев назад +5

    These guys waited for chamisa to bring in some great votes then chipped bcz without chamisa they were not gonna make it

    • @SKunetsa
      @SKunetsa 7 месяцев назад

      21:39 true

    • @obertnyamanza3005
      @obertnyamanza3005 7 месяцев назад

      Giving zanu pf 2 thirds majority.so boss you actually make sure that all these strong opposition parties are squashed starting from the first MDC to Mdc ncube until now whereby you help the creation of CCC ncube /biti ,what a political genocide!as a lawyer,a professional lawyer truly speaking it never clicked into your mind that zimbambeans will definitely know that you are working for zanu as their agent.if you think so then political science must start as a subject and be the seventh zimsec grade 7 subject

    • @citizenchild547
      @citizenchild547 6 месяцев назад

      Very true

    • @nkululekochakawa2642
      @nkululekochakawa2642 5 месяцев назад

      You are not telling the truth bruh. Chamisa is not a party. Please know that, otherwise you forcing some of us to withdraw our support for him and become tribal.

  • @mbizi4573
    @mbizi4573 7 месяцев назад

    This is the man who should be the leader of the opposition, not that dumb wannabe dictator Chamisa. I can listen to Prof Ncube all day

  • @Rsham1970
    @Rsham1970 7 месяцев назад +40

    This man was the main voice behind Tshabangu

    • @senzompofu8164
      @senzompofu8164 7 месяцев назад +4

      so what?

    • @purposemoyo1873
      @purposemoyo1873 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@senzompofu8164msunu

    • @Urgirllibertyloveyoy
      @Urgirllibertyloveyoy 7 месяцев назад

      He still is good, but he needs to o ow he is not as charismatic and should leave the main leadership position to those who are

    • @rascocky6366
      @rascocky6366 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@Urgirllibertyloveyoy Did Ncube say he is the permanent for life president? He was quite clear about that by saying the congress will decide.

    • @morisiojaya2890
      @morisiojaya2890 7 месяцев назад

      Was

  • @Gagisa2712
    @Gagisa2712 7 месяцев назад +3

    If maturity was a person then its definitely Prof Welsh.
    Uyindoda okaMathonsi.

  • @servioussibanda3287
    @servioussibanda3287 7 месяцев назад +3

    I have always had much respect for this guy, but orchestrating tye recall of mps elected by tens of thousands of people just to hand zpf the much wanted 2/3 majority has been the worst I expected from him no matter what differences he had with the change champion. Now let's see what he can accomplish! NONSENSE!

  • @brianmazorodze4860
    @brianmazorodze4860 6 месяцев назад +1

    Prof, it's interesting that you first get informed by a colleague in diaspora about the recalls then your first thought is to call Tshabangu himself to confirm and not your President Chamisa to find out if he is aware of the news.

  • @douglasmolai2980
    @douglasmolai2980 7 месяцев назад +5

    So you told us you were in contact with twabangu and you did not communicate this with President Chamisa so true what twabangu said he had backing from you and biti. Go well to zanu pf let's see if you will still have a party when the blue movement is announced

  • @dwaynetino
    @dwaynetino 7 месяцев назад +2

    You are wrong when you say people are not foolish. It is common knowledge that Zimbabweans believe in putting all hopes and power in one person, both ruling and opposition

  • @user-ui2xz6uy8d
    @user-ui2xz6uy8d 7 месяцев назад +4

    He said the first list of recalls comprised of close friends to NC,is Nelson imposing his allies on people?

    • @josephchikati4239
      @josephchikati4239 7 месяцев назад

      It's now very clear he was behind the recalls

  • @michaeltmutena8985
    @michaeltmutena8985 7 месяцев назад +6

    There is no more party to talk about!

  • @jerrynyauta6060
    @jerrynyauta6060 7 месяцев назад +2

    Mr Ndebele should have pushed for more answers, he was a bit lenient.

  • @keabetsoencube7639
    @keabetsoencube7639 7 месяцев назад +13

    Some comment here are blatantly stupid you mean u are ready for a dictatorship ??! Then wats the difference between Chamisa and Zanu

    • @senzenimoyo7873
      @senzenimoyo7873 7 месяцев назад

      So you prefer to give Zanu Pf all the seats only because you don’t want Chamisa to lead.What these guys did was evil they don’t care about the citizens but they only care about their stomachs.

    • @Munhu370
      @Munhu370 7 месяцев назад

      Were in history have you ever head of a dictator resigning. Why did the democracy failed on by elections. Why would you like to clinch to a dictators head as your democratic party's logo.

    • @SKunetsa
      @SKunetsa 7 месяцев назад

      Which dictatirship?

    • @collinsmago233
      @collinsmago233 7 месяцев назад +2

      prof as much as he doesnt have the crowd he spoke facts there no to dictatorship in opposition

    • @kundaichirunga5406
      @kundaichirunga5406 7 месяцев назад

      The difference is Chamisa

  • @josephmumhari6535
    @josephmumhari6535 7 месяцев назад +28

    You recalled mps in order to became president 😠😠

    • @nematombo15
      @nematombo15 7 месяцев назад +2

      If that is true, why haven't the recalled MPs resigned from the party?

    • @josephmumhari6535
      @josephmumhari6535 7 месяцев назад

      @@nematombo15 ko handi vavatidzingwa nechekare

  • @michaelmutsengi8463
    @michaelmutsengi8463 7 месяцев назад +3

    A fair account of the goings in the party. We hope the same questions should be posed to nelson and see how he fares. Or bring them together and interview them.

    • @agrippamukonyora
      @agrippamukonyora 4 месяца назад

      He will blame his fellow comrades obvious. He doesn't want to take responsibility and he is toxic

  • @MathewMusarurwa-pp6dt
    @MathewMusarurwa-pp6dt 7 месяцев назад +2

    Where were u when Advocate was campaigning???

  • @berthamusanhu7813
    @berthamusanhu7813 7 месяцев назад +7

    Problem is people already decided what they thought before they listened. So they will never see ma blind spots of their favorites.

  • @munyaradzichiremba5586
    @munyaradzichiremba5586 7 месяцев назад +14

    Thank you for being a man of integrity. Ngiziqhenya ngani. INkosi inibusise.

    • @SKunetsa
      @SKunetsa 7 месяцев назад +2

      What integrity is there in recalling people elected?

    • @edwinndlovu301
      @edwinndlovu301 7 месяцев назад +1

      Udakiwe njengaye lawe 😂😂😂

    • @GlobaljusticeTalk
      @GlobaljusticeTalk 7 месяцев назад

      There is no integrity in all he is saying . The Supreme Court judgement directed that MDC T go back to 2014 structures . Him and his cabal are the architects of the CCC's death.

    • @munyaradzichiremba5586
      @munyaradzichiremba5586 7 месяцев назад

      @@edwinndlovu301 Cha Cha Cha. Isimo sasekhaya yiso esidakhiweyo. We need not be myopic. The longer we remain disintegrated politically, the longer Zanu PF will continue to ruin our country.

    • @user-sd4us2ov9n
      @user-sd4us2ov9n 7 месяцев назад +1

      You are crazy

  • @kdkd2457
    @kdkd2457 7 месяцев назад +1

    If Mr Acting President is not associated with Sengezo. Where did he get the powers to recall people. Moreover if Ccc leadership was the one which was elected under the banner of MDC Alliance. Surely he was not & is not the SG.. Why is mr Acting President called Sengezo & affirm that he was recalling mps & ddnt condem this imposter ?

  • @ReasonSithole-rx2jm
    @ReasonSithole-rx2jm 6 месяцев назад

    Prof Welsh is a very good example of a failed politician. He toppled Prof Mutambara and became president of that party and destroyed it now he is doing the same...He should not be anywhere near a political party.

  • @AfricasDNA
    @AfricasDNA 7 месяцев назад +5

    We need @taffytheman to react to this Tshabangu Team who gave ZANU PF 2 3rds majority.

  • @ndodanasibanda764
    @ndodanasibanda764 6 месяцев назад +1

    Good move thank u Welsh we luv u

  • @isaacnyathi-ng2tf
    @isaacnyathi-ng2tf 7 месяцев назад +2

    This man is talking about 2019 I don't understand him

  • @forbytsingano8389
    @forbytsingano8389 7 месяцев назад +8

    If you were not behind Hlabangu, why did you not put brakes on him as top leader? Did you have interest in the outcome of his recalls? We need answers Prof

    • @gilbertschengeta1920
      @gilbertschengeta1920 7 месяцев назад

      Dudes not asking questions on our behalf.He is simple making us know kurr Ncube is the President for now

    • @berthamusanhu7813
      @berthamusanhu7813 7 месяцев назад +3

      Why did Chamisa not put breaks on it as well. All of them are 🚮

    • @lovemoretafirenyika6038
      @lovemoretafirenyika6038 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@berthamusanhu7813Chamisa wrote a letter to parliament explaining the procedures they would take as a party in terms of recalls a month before Tshabangu recalled MPs.

    • @priscillamuchena6765
      @priscillamuchena6765 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@lovemoretafirenyika6038Chamisa tried to stop but these snakes and zanu pf chose not to listen to him he even wrote to Mudende the speaker but he over ruled that

    • @samgidds
      @samgidds 6 месяцев назад

      @@berthamusanhu7813didn’t Chamisa try and fail as ZANU PF speaker of parliament ignored Chamisa’s calls to ignore Tshabangu?

  • @khosinimsebele7835
    @khosinimsebele7835 7 месяцев назад +11

    I believe that seniority has to do with conscience and integrity, you guys you value your stomach more than the suffering majority of Zimbabweans. I wonder why our senior politicians when they about to maintain their legacy they lose . Zimbabwe doesn't have genuine people centred politicians all is centred on themselves, their children and families nothing to do with Zimbabweans and Zimbabwe itself. What a shame. Smith must be laughing in his grave that people sacrificed their lives for their own to oppress them.

    • @Mashinge
      @Mashinge 7 месяцев назад

      Somewhat one would assume Smith was correct to say blacks are incapable of running a government?

    • @archibaldnyamayaro9490
      @archibaldnyamayaro9490 7 месяцев назад +1

      Guys this is politics .reflect on chamisa is he not thinking w his stomach.he can not do it alone.remember these are big guys.if he can not work with others den clearly his leadership is questionable

    • @khosinimsebele7835
      @khosinimsebele7835 7 месяцев назад

      @@archibaldnyamayaro9490 big guys without direction, all of these opposition guys don’t tell the truth they are hungry lions greedy and hungry for power, they sold out they gave ZANU of 2/3 majority they are now going to change the constitution the way they want even choose which oppositions should be registered or not. Zimbabweans we are a divided desperate nation no direction and it’s us the majority who are going to suffer whilst these politicians are feeding themselves.

    • @rejoicedube
      @rejoicedube 7 месяцев назад

      @@archibaldnyamayaro9490 so true. A leaders main job is to galvanize people to a singular objective. Consistently since Tsvangirai died Chamisa has failed at this task.

    • @khumbulanimoyo4770
      @khumbulanimoyo4770 6 месяцев назад

      Zimbabweans, our major challenge is the leadership quality drought we are facing aa a country. These pple are only after filling their stomachs. Some of these leaders started selling to zpf nd this is exactly what divided them.This problem then caused mistrust amoung them.Chamisa therefore cld not trust any of them.This is what decimated the party.A leadership that fails to deal with infiltration is dead.Chabangu is a zpf project simply and clar.Today, he has accomplished the project of handing zpf a 2 third majority, he is now getting the payment that's due to him.Selling the country???? Eishyyyyy, so sad.Finally , I query the sincerity of SADC though. Thy dnt care abt Zimbabweans lives, do not matter its so clear

  • @tmakuunga
    @tmakuunga 7 месяцев назад +2

    Let them do the way they want but tell you what they will fail again

  • @williammandisodza549
    @williammandisodza549 7 месяцев назад +6

    To me this is just a good interview. Zenzele allowed Welsham to share his views without unnecessary interjections. This is the purpose of an interview, for us to hear what the interviewee's points are. Not a fan of Ncube but he made sense.

    • @mutandwadonaldmukwasi4178
      @mutandwadonaldmukwasi4178 7 месяцев назад +2

      From the questions asked in the comment section he did not do us justice ,he should have asked the questions of how he was quiet all along and fails to address the way forward with Tshabangu

    • @williammandisodza549
      @williammandisodza549 7 месяцев назад

      Is this not the same with NC boss? There is no one in the CCC presidium who stood against Tshabangu. No single affidavit submitted disowning him? @@mutandwadonaldmukwasi4178

  • @Sie-7
    @Sie-7 6 месяцев назад

    I have one question for The Professor, which leadership was elected in Gweru, by the Tshabangu's words, you see. When you launched the part you said you are starting afresh. You should not talk about honest and integrity when you cannot be honest about the difference between CCC and MDC-Alliance. You are a disgrace to be honest. People will not forgive you for this.

  • @user-un5tg7en2r
    @user-un5tg7en2r 7 месяцев назад

    Leave Ncube alone celebrate your New party I wish he became a first Ndebele president in the history we are tired to be lead by cowards dictators

  • @uncleTee2023
    @uncleTee2023 6 месяцев назад

    But you Ncube had nothing to do with MDC-T. You already had a breakway political party MDC-N. How did you come back to CCC? This does not make sense.

  • @SK-rt5hk
    @SK-rt5hk 7 месяцев назад +2

    Why did you not tell us what you are now saying before we went to vote? We wasted our time voting yet you knew you were not in support of the candidates. For that WN you betrayed us as the voters. We are not part of your fights with Chamisa

  • @ivuchigora4195
    @ivuchigora4195 7 месяцев назад +15

    Professor Ncube after articulating what Zimbabweans are suffering from, the greatest betrayal you did was to donate parliamentary seats to Zanu on a silver plater through your recalls.

    • @mrngalande621
      @mrngalande621 7 месяцев назад +2

      You can follow your little dictator and leave them alone you don't feed them

    • @vie79
      @vie79 7 месяцев назад

      Neither you​@@mrngalande621

    • @ganyanimax2984
      @ganyanimax2984 7 месяцев назад

      U Welshman Ncube akuyena U Leader we opposition party why engakhulumi ngezindlu zabantu ezidilizwayo .ngoba yena ule plazi alinikwa Yizanu e gweru

    • @everbote7858
      @everbote7858 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@mrngalande621The. Ncuve and crew are sellouts let's go to election we will sho you ask Mwonzora mapera vatengesi chero mukataura makamira pagomo kupedza nguva. Citizens taenda ne blue train. Chero mukamudana nemazita api Chamisa tinaye. 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

    • @Mishy_Media
      @Mishy_Media 7 месяцев назад

      Chamisa akutizai mongoteera semapofu

  • @aifhelimudau2133
    @aifhelimudau2133 7 месяцев назад +2

    Welshman must not say the owners of the party are us the people. Your team of leaders recalled the people voted by us as you say we are the owners. You don't really care about the people you care more about your own benefit

    • @chrisngorima4212
      @chrisngorima4212 7 месяцев назад

      He is a professor in selling out,remember he even plotted against Morgan by introducing him to that Ben Mernash ,he wanted Morgan to be killed

  • @agrippamukonyora
    @agrippamukonyora 4 месяца назад

    Chamisa simply destroyed the party by sidelining his comrades. He indirectly created Shabangu

  • @tnyakama
    @tnyakama 7 месяцев назад

    This is a struggle Welshman. Focus on building the Chamisa brand to fight Zanu PF oppression. trying to implement democratic principles its not going to help anyone, rather it will expose the party to more Zanu PF infiltration. Learn or Perish !!

  • @blessingbhura1528
    @blessingbhura1528 6 месяцев назад

    You call someone illegally recalling elected members of parliament 3 times and not even once you ask him to stop? Or at least comment about it until Now? This Prof is a double agent surely 🤔

  • @JayDee-fx3tq
    @JayDee-fx3tq 7 месяцев назад

    He Welshman Ncube is a sell out since 2002 against opposition party.

  • @Simbarashe-v2o
    @Simbarashe-v2o 7 месяцев назад +3

    Where have this eloquent leader been all along. Prof you nailed I think I have found a sober humble knowledgeable leader. I am pure Shona I will give you my vote.

  • @BukalangaTv
    @BukalangaTv 7 месяцев назад +1

    Welsham is not telling the truth. He knows very well what transpired during those recall. How do you continue working with someone who instinctively dismantled your party like that? And analysing his statement to me he might be an interim leader but Tshabangu still leads this CCC as they still bagg him not to recall some again.

  • @patinamophiri8835
    @patinamophiri8835 7 месяцев назад +1

    Listen to how Prof describes his conversation with Tshabangu: He asks Tshabangu if he has recalled 73 people to which Tshabangu says no and that he recalled 23. A fake conversation, a lie, which exposes Prof I have respected for years. Why did Prof not ask Tshabangu why how he was doing the recalls

  • @pfungwayemoyochirowodza7858
    @pfungwayemoyochirowodza7858 7 месяцев назад +1

    The political formula is Welshman Ncube + Tendai Biti + Tshabangu = mwonzora (political DEAD )

  • @rejoicedube
    @rejoicedube 7 месяцев назад +1

    Have we forgotten that at the beginning Chamisa claimed he did not know Tshabangu? People are angry at the wrong people.

    • @munyaradzimunoz9536
      @munyaradzimunoz9536 6 месяцев назад

      when did he say that send us the link not just corridor talk

  • @georgemckanda9372
    @georgemckanda9372 7 месяцев назад +1

    Please tell us your purpose of calling Tshabangu when you heard of his recalls and only kept quite? Can't ypu see that you technically admitting your involvement?

  • @rejoicedube
    @rejoicedube 7 месяцев назад +1

    Chamisa refused to take responsibility for creating the Tshabangu situation! Then lied he didn’t know Tshabangu who clearly was deep in the party.

  • @SKunetsa
    @SKunetsa 7 месяцев назад +1

    8:51 why then were there recalls? If others had agreed to move?

  • @munyaradzichiremba5586
    @munyaradzichiremba5586 7 месяцев назад +6

    My heart bleeds for the ordinary Zimbabweans who are taken for a ride by Zanu PF. Sir Ncube, may the favour of God be upon you and your leadership. May there be unit and oneness in your party so that hope can be ignited in people's hearts that Zimbabwe shall become a strong nation and the bread basket of Africa. It is not easy being a foreigner. We have become the scum of the earth. I put my vote behind you.

    • @alexiopanyumba9058
      @alexiopanyumba9058 7 месяцев назад

      I don't see any change from these guys they have failed the people, power hungry not worried about those who died just greedy, they will not succeed

    • @munyaradzichiremba5586
      @munyaradzichiremba5586 7 месяцев назад

      @@alexiopanyumba9058 We can cry and allow Zanu PF to preside over our lives forever or we can attempt to remove the evil regime. Needless to say, Zanu PF has lost at least twice and yet they continue to rule. I really salute these gentlemen.

    • @alexiopanyumba9058
      @alexiopanyumba9058 7 месяцев назад

      Can't you see that this is a Zanu pf project, just watch the space, Chamisa is the only person who can bring change if not stopped by these guys, Biti Ncube and others.Mutsvaga said it and I thought it's a joke, he said Biti and Ncube are ours and that came true

    • @brianjustin1642
      @brianjustin1642 7 месяцев назад +1

      If you are using Gweru Congress why not using the name MDC Alliance.....

    • @morisiojaya2890
      @morisiojaya2890 7 месяцев назад

      Benzi

  • @diasporaintellect4485
    @diasporaintellect4485 6 месяцев назад

    PLEASE PROFESSOR NCUBE, GET BACK TOGETHER WITH MWONZORA AND START AFRESH AND LETS DO THINGS PROPERLY GOING FORWARD!!

    • @samgidds
      @samgidds 6 месяцев назад

      Hehehehe

  • @SKunetsa
    @SKunetsa 7 месяцев назад +1

    24:31
    😂😂😂😂
    He was mum on whether Tshabangu will continue to recall😂😂
    24:58 He is a mor⁰n.

  • @liznyak7666
    @liznyak7666 7 месяцев назад

    I was a diehard supporter of Chamisa but I realized hapana kwatirikuenda neLeadership yake. Too many lies and false hopes. He is failure! MDC-C failed. CCC failed. Whatever he is gonna form will be a failure again. When is he gonna admit that 2 elections did not take us to promise land and it’s time to change leadership! Tshabangu is the baby of strategy of no structures. Anybody could just come and claim a position they did not hold. I’m not going to be part of Chamisa’s cult.

  • @prevalencemaphosa1415
    @prevalencemaphosa1415 6 месяцев назад

    I am not at all convinced that Chamisa and co do not know anything about Tshabangu. Lack of accountability is what has brought us here ..Kunzima

  • @esaumadzura
    @esaumadzura 7 месяцев назад +1

    Zenzele, you just showed us your leniency towards this guy. Why ask tame uninteresting questions, If anything, the nutty professor came out worse than he intended or planned. Good bye Mr professor, the so called spy at the campus. You are done for good, it's over bro.

  • @athurhotmak
    @athurhotmak 7 месяцев назад

    Can you really engage the state to give you your party back??? Will the state (which is ZanuPF) allow that to happen????

  • @PrivilegeNsingo
    @PrivilegeNsingo 7 месяцев назад +1

    As long as CCC is working with tshabangu I will not vote for ccc

  • @DenfordMupita
    @DenfordMupita 7 месяцев назад

    The problem in zim is we give too much respect to the so called educated guys, profs, docs lawyers etc bt this country is down bcz of them; and now its them killing the opposition. I hope the ordinary people wil dump them and move forward

  • @luckynezira7263
    @luckynezira7263 7 месяцев назад +1

    CCC is MDC Alliance no 2 ways about that.

  • @bonganincube9331
    @bonganincube9331 7 месяцев назад +1

    When I grow up I want to be a politician, 😂

  • @tatendamutedzi1753
    @tatendamutedzi1753 6 месяцев назад +1

    Power hungry dude. Good luck, you need it. Another Mwonzora style down fall loading

  • @gabrielchaibva7800
    @gabrielchaibva7800 7 месяцев назад

    Can you tell us Prof why you did nothing, i mean nothing at all as VP that your party could last seat 22 January 2022 without you attempting to call one meeting! Why as VP was not involved in planning especially, leading to congress under ccc? Why did you not publish the leadership of ccc? surely why not have a published constitution? this is hogwash!!

  • @drchiduku
    @drchiduku 7 месяцев назад +3

    1. You correctly point out that Tshabangu was not the interim SG. Don't you think your silence on the recalls as a lawyer and VP was too loud?

  • @lawrencevensondube8098
    @lawrencevensondube8098 6 месяцев назад

    There is something big in the opposition going back to Tsvangirai .. greediness.. dictatorship.. .. this needs to be sorted.. ZANU PF is taking advantage of that

  • @menzondhlovu1500
    @menzondhlovu1500 7 месяцев назад +2

    When are you putting your face on the logo prof I mean as the most senior leader who has been elected to act first you can't be lifting a barner with toxic Chamisa's face

  • @liznyak7666
    @liznyak7666 7 месяцев назад +5

    I understand Prof Welsh. Chamisa has turned the party to a cult. It’s no longer chinhu chevanhu but party yaChamisa.

    • @priscillamuchena6765
      @priscillamuchena6765 7 месяцев назад +1

      A coin has 2 sides so don't just jump into conclusion before you get both sides. I don't expect anything to come from Prof he has failed before with his own party MDC Ncube what happened to it did it ever get seats anywhere??

    • @rejoicedube
      @rejoicedube 7 месяцев назад

      @@priscillamuchena6765you will never get the other side because they can’t say anything without showing they lied. Chamisa lied. People died.

    • @samgidds
      @samgidds 6 месяцев назад

      Haivuyiwe better ZANU PF gets 2/3 than for Chamisa get credit?

  • @edmorengengeza618
    @edmorengengeza618 7 месяцев назад

    Yes we are not fools and we know what we want. We want CHAMISA not this nonsense