Taught all of my kids many self preservation lessons to prepare them for creeps, foremost they were told to tell the abductor to 'let them go, you don't know what damage my mother is capable of doing, she doesn't either. She will hunt you down relentlessly. etc. Mama bear fury unleashed.
If thats abuse then why did she leave comments about missing him? Maybe, maybe just maybe the father was the controlling one and did not want his daughter to date Bryce? I guess only the daughter and father know the truth if he was or wasnt abusive.
Why did she deny it ? Why would he kill the guy otherwise ? It makes no sense that she defends her abuser over her dad. The dad was obviously controlling & violent. A warning is ok, murder is not.
Murder doesn't have to be rational. We're often driven by emotions. You can't actually tell if Bryce was abusing her or not. We have no definite proof. We do know that the dad wasn't the most moral person ever. Did you hear that he was sentenced for SA?
It boggles my mind that as many you tube video's & shows that tell people how they screwed up when committing a crime that they still screw up and get caught!!!!
SHE WANTED OUT OF HER OVERBEARING HOME LIFE! Dad is a crazy control freak who saw Bryce as the man who enabled his daughter to escape him! End of! There was no abuse by Bryce! He made that crap up! I wouldn’t be surprised if he has deviant inclinations towards his daughter!
@RottenInDenmarkOrginal know them personally, dad is a super creep. Makes most women skin crawl. I wouldn't let our kids be friends because he made me so uncomfortable.
@@tylerbirgle1295 if that’s how you took my comment, you need to spend some more time in the classroom learning about reading comprehension. Don’t project your feelings onto my comment. Yikes.
@@EarlLayne the dad was charged criminally with SA twice before. There is something wrong with him. If his daughter was being abused this should have been handled very differently.
The like/upvote/whatever has created a system where people read the headline, skip the content , and just immediately say the first thing that comes to mind. All just for points.
Come on commentators , the daughter stated on her FB page that Bryce never abused her , The dad was just a controlling freak that wanted to have his daughters for himself ”when daddy’s girls is taken on weird level I guess !!
@@derpdiggler7413 No, her denial of abuse does not necessarily indicate abuse. Her father was convicted of R &pe twice before indicating he had issues. Even if the boyfriend was "abusing" his daughter a solution was no to kill him.
He was charged criminally with SA twice before. There is something wrong with him. If his daughter was being abused this should have been handled very differently.
@@omarbatista7970 Michael was an over possessive father and his daughter was a grown adult who did not want to leave Bryce and chose to stay with him. Michael should have butt out and if his friends were really his friends they would have alerted the police and let the police handle the situation.
Poor planning on the father’s part. He’s acting so suspicious. If his daughter was being abused there are definitely other ways to deal with this. Something tells me “daddy” didn’t want her to move to Alaska. People don’t just turn off their phone and go all over the countryside. Like the police haven’t heard that story before!
Laflex is pops to daughter. Video shows he was convicted of multiple crims against women when younger. So, pops is reading into other people what he actually is, a (p)ervert. Then pops illkays daughters boyfriend, likely out of jealousy which is even grosser.
I honestly think Dad is creepy all the way around. I have NO problem with him defending his daughter, but it’s much more to it. Not normal. My opinion.
He has always made my skin crawl. He had that effect on most women. I wouldn't let our kids be friends because he creeped me out and made my skin crawl. Ick
He dug the hole ahead of time. It was clearly premeditated. And just to add, her dad is obviously crazy. I don’t know that I even believe he’d been abusing Cordelia.
Bryce was not the abusive type... her dad was making assumptions and killed him over it. I'm from brainerd and have run into Bryce a few times and my buddy's knew him well. Anyways R.I.P Bryce that P.O.S is locked up now luckily.
@@shevystudio They are mindless sheeps. Daughter only has nice things to say about Bryce and these sheeps still claim Bryce was abusive. Maybe the father was the controlling one? Just maybe?
Even after the boyfriend had been murdered, his daughter maintained her boyfriend's innocence. I think the father misjudged the situation. Even now, she speaks positively of her boyfriend. There was no actual proof the boyfriend was abusing her, and neither did the daughter ever (not once) say that he did.
He was always a creeper. He always made my skin crawl. He made the girls on the softball team uncomfortable while he "helped" coach. The girls had a meeting about it. I wouldn't let my girl be friends with his girl because of him. Skin crawls
You do realize the Tribes were constantly fighting each other and taking members of other tribes as slaves… some of y’all love to leave all that out. The USA is beautiful today.
This was unequivocally premeditated. It sucks that people use tragedy to make jokes. They should be thankful for,and always forgive,and remember to hug and tell the ones they love how much they mean to them. In an instant, they could be gone. Brian in Arizona
Sounds to me like it was premeditated but poorly. I totally get wanting to protect your daughter, but I would have just scared the crap out of the guy and told him to never come back. You can't be there to protect your daughter if you're in jail for the rest of your life.
Didn't they find the boyfriend innocent? I've watched this same story a few times from different channels, and they found no evidence of abuse, no 911 calls, no bruises or anything. Was there new evidence found this long after? All the other stories made it out to seem like the dad was overly protective and a little crazy.
All of you defending the dad, did you not watch the whole video? He's an abuser himself, he just did it sexually. Don't do crap that could come back around to you.
What an elaborate lie. He would’ve had to have said a whole nother version of this lie to his daughter’s face as she cried. 😬 And, he falsely admits to evidence tampering to the police.
People only post great things on fb, nobody wants or would post about being abused, too humiliating. What this father did now is just made his daughter glorify the abuser. To her , she will only remember the honeymoon periods and love the abuser forever, until she gets therapy. It also made her hate her father forever. Just such a big loss for everyone.
doesn't matter split up, if you need to get police involved, but no one deserves to be executed over false allegations. It's sickening that there are people like you who think this is ok. You obviously hate men.
What was the father's costume? Ostensibly he was wearing one, since he was at a family Halloween party when the police found him for questioning. "Exhausted business dad riding the subway home?" "1950s husband after a long day?"
You do know that the daughter only had great things to say about Bryce? And she accused her dad of stressing her out? Nope, you have had to watch the video to know this....
I don’t condone killing but , I don’t condone being put in the state of mind to do it and abusing any man’s daughters will put any Father there . There will be no WARNING ‼️ for some as Bryce 😔
@ I knew from watching this video that it was the fathers twisted thoughts that he will pay for with PRISON JUSTICE but , I’m speaking from sane thoughts of , what would happen if a protective father as myself was put in that state of mind , After any type of abuse !! I may go to Prison but , I guarantee he don’t touch my daughter again !! Here lies the who once thought that’s what he really was 🪦
Maybe men would stop abusing women if they knew they might have to face the women's enraged family members without legal repercussions (for the victims' families). Same with SA. They do it partially because they essentially get away with it.
change your title you should be sued for defamation no record or proof the bf was abusive in trial same was said all over her fb it was said you took what the perpatrator said and ran with it meanwhile hes in prision lol some people have pdf file tendencies and that father seems like one
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A lot of comments defending abuse, do something to a person's child and youll get exactly whats coming to you. Go argue with a wall.
Well said Hun
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Taught all of my kids many self preservation lessons to prepare them for creeps, foremost they were told to tell the abductor to 'let them go, you don't know what damage my mother is capable of doing, she doesn't either. She will hunt you down relentlessly. etc. Mama bear fury unleashed.
If thats abuse then why did she leave comments about missing him? Maybe, maybe just maybe the father was the controlling one and did not want his daughter to date Bryce? I guess only the daughter and father know the truth if he was or wasnt abusive.
Exactly
This should be a warning , never put your hands on a mans daughter or kids / grankids
Exactly, because sometimes it ain't about JUSTICE..it's about "JUST US" 😡
Or son
You get life in prison
@MoneyMan28 I take the risk I personally don't care for my self as long as my daughter is safe from a monster
@@kingofmfgreens she chose to be his gf
If you're gonna kill somebody, you might not want to have gps on ya, and yeah, you might not want to tell anyone
dont abuse someone either....
or everyone.
Dude dresses like Michael Douglas in Falling Down
They found him at a Halloween party, it could be what he was going for
That was a great movie!!!
He didn't normally look like that. He was a carpenter by trade and looked the roll. Creeper
As far as I’m concerned if the boyfriend was abusing or beating his daughter, that’s what fathers do, they protect their children.
I’d be careful what you say on social media mate
Yeah you should reread what you just said and change it because you are very wrong
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You never know who's daughter you are messing with.. woman beaters pay attention.
@richard7930
Agree 💯
Dressed like Agent 47
More like GayGent 69
LOL
@@beingblack😂😂😂😂
Halloween.
He didn't normally look like this. He was a carpenter by trade and looked the roll.
Why did she deny it ? Why would he kill the guy otherwise ? It makes no sense that she defends her abuser over her dad. The dad was obviously controlling & violent. A warning is ok, murder is not.
Murder doesn't have to be rational. We're often driven by emotions. You can't actually tell if Bryce was abusing her or not. We have no definite proof. We do know that the dad wasn't the most moral person ever. Did you hear that he was sentenced for SA?
@@ossian108 congratulations on being an abuse condoner. I feel bad for anyone unfortunate enough to have to endure you.
she dickmatized
@@MonkHoward maybe it was the father who was abusing her and was mad he took her away from all that
Or she lied to her father.
It boggles my mind that as many you tube video's & shows that tell people how they screwed up when committing a crime that they still screw up and get caught!!!!
You need not utter a word to the police and court
I thought the same!!!😮
Some people don’t think when they do it and some people think they are too smart that they will get away with it pffff never 👎
@ReRe13- 😂 💯 🎯
I found this statistic jaw dropping---nearly 50% of murders in the US go unsolved.
SHE WANTED OUT OF HER OVERBEARING HOME LIFE! Dad is a crazy control freak who saw Bryce as the man who enabled his daughter to escape him! End of! There was no abuse by Bryce! He made that crap up! I wouldn’t be surprised if he has deviant inclinations towards his daughter!
@RottenInDenmarkOrginal know them personally, dad is a super creep. Makes most women skin crawl. I wouldn't let our kids be friends because he made me so uncomfortable.
Ol dad was in love with his daughter and didn’t like seeing her with someone else. Yikes.
Probably that
Kinda weird to defend an abuser 🤷🏼♂️ but you do you weirdo
@@tylerbirgle1295 if that’s how you took my comment, you need to spend some more time in the classroom learning about reading comprehension. Don’t project your feelings onto my comment. Yikes.
Yeah, I think it was premeditated. Sound like a dad that was jealous of his daughter’s boyfriend
He wasn't jealous. He just hated Bryce.
@@sheiladineen9483 He was jealous. He stalked her last boyfriend also.
He wanted her meat
@@OtisFlintjealous? He was beating the woman
@@EarlLayne the dad was charged criminally with SA twice before. There is something wrong with him. If his daughter was being abused this should have been handled very differently.
For those defending Dad it’s obvious you didn’t watch the entire video. Dad was the controlling one. And what’s up with that tattoo? Very creepy.
THANK YOU! the comments completely missed the context.
The like/upvote/whatever has created a system where people read the headline, skip the content , and just immediately say the first thing that comes to mind. All just for points.
And an abuser himself
@JeepGirl45 your dad clearly raised a punching bag. its a shame that you think this is acceptable behavior.
The father was the obsessive one to his daughter. He did not want her to leave and move away with the boyfriend. I mean the tattoo is a dead giveaway.
""IS VERY POSSESSIVE""
THAT'S CALLED PROJECTING!!!😂
I'd say its a pretty normal tatoo, atleast I think?
Come on commentators , the daughter stated on her FB page that Bryce never abused her , The dad was just a controlling freak that wanted to have his daughters for himself ”when daddy’s girls is taken on weird level I guess !!
The father has a criminal record involving SA. He has something wrong with him.
@@loralieisa there are a lot of ways to cop that charge. it doesn't always mean what you think jds
a victim denying allegations of abuse on facebook if anything is more indicative of abuse
@@derpdiggler7413 agree
@@derpdiggler7413 No, her denial of abuse does not necessarily indicate abuse. Her father was convicted of R &pe twice before indicating he had issues. Even if the boyfriend was "abusing" his daughter a solution was no to kill him.
Premeditated. Nothing more. Nothing less. This dad is a weirdo.
He was charged criminally with SA twice before. There is something wrong with him. If his daughter was being abused this should have been handled very differently.
Crazy! I don’t think any abuse was actually happening. Until it’s proven don’t assume.
When Michael told certain people he was going to kill Bryce did those people call the police? Never take a murder threat lightly from anyone.
Harder daddy
Oh yeah daddy, right there. Yeah just like that
@@omarbatista7970 Michael was an over possessive father and his daughter was a grown adult who did not want to leave Bryce and chose to stay with him. Michael should have butt out and if his friends were really his friends they would have alerted the police and let the police handle the situation.
@@annb8296 you were clearly never loved as a child do me a favor never have children yourself
yes they did. he told his sister and then she told their brother who went to the police
Poor planning on the father’s part. He’s acting so suspicious. If his daughter was being abused there are definitely other ways to deal with this. Something tells me “daddy” didn’t want her to move to Alaska. People don’t just turn off their phone and go all over the countryside. Like the police haven’t heard that story before!
Basically what I learned if you want to kill somebody don’t bring yourself phone
That and what auto is used.
Exactly! Also no newer model vehicles.
U guys r missing the obvious. Don't be last person seen with the murder victim.😳
@@WalterJ-i9rthank you!
Play continued videos on utube set up auto text message times but don't take the phone 😒
Laflex is pops to daughter. Video shows he was convicted of multiple crims against women when younger. So, pops is reading into other people what he actually is, a (p)ervert. Then pops illkays daughters boyfriend, likely out of jealousy which is even grosser.
More likely that you are the one projecting.
@@dobiaccoyah I was gonna say... It's pretty obvious what happened to all of us. You not so much.
Is any of your skitzoposting even in english?
@@CalamityM it’s actually an entirely coherent comment.
Will never know because he killed the man with zero evidence to prove abuse. Just a dbag human being.
""HE'S VERY POSSESSIVE""
WE CALL THAT PROJECTING 😂
It's his daughter!
@@Sup3rB4dVideosAgain, PROJECTING
morality. don't take justice into your own hands without knowing anything…
That’s his daughter who kept showing up with odd bruises😐
@@shixlds According to him.
@@shixlds then go to the police. now he's in prison for the rest of his life bc of his own assumptions
Dad is creepy over his daughter. Makes my skin crawl
i agree
I honestly think Dad is creepy all the way around. I have NO problem with him defending his daughter, but it’s much more to it. Not normal. My opinion.
He has always made my skin crawl. He had that effect on most women. I wouldn't let our kids be friends because he creeped me out and made my skin crawl. Ick
The father did something worse than the boyfriend allegedly did.
Cry about it
@@jellybean-ej7lk It's not worth me crying about but my observation has certainly struck a nerve with you.
No he did not
@@hamodalbatal464 Watch the full video, dude….
Apparently it is cause you keep crying about it@@user-ys2ko2jt4y
He dug the hole ahead of time. It was clearly premeditated.
And just to add, her dad is obviously crazy. I don’t know that I even believe he’d been abusing Cordelia.
It’s uncanny how much couple looked alike. Such a terrible decision the dad made.
They look like siblings.... wouldn't it be wild if a DNA test revealed they had the same father 🙄😱
That's what I was thinking, looks like sister and brother.
Right?!
He did not look 23 what is up with gen z ers looking older 👀
@@zaq1337drugs and alcohol age you.Most gen Z can’t handle life without using weed.
He dug the hole ahead of time. It was clearly premeditated.
Bryce was not the abusive type... her dad was making assumptions and killed him over it. I'm from brainerd and have run into Bryce a few times and my buddy's knew him well. Anyways R.I.P Bryce that P.O.S is locked up now luckily.
So all the abuse claims were BS? just asking
@@foxxrider250rthe only one that ever made claims of abuse was the father ........
@@s15240drifter69 doesn’t surprise me. He sounded crazy
*His fantastical story is ridiculous. Surprised the detectives didn’t burst into laughter 🤭 😆!!!!🤣🤣*
Cordelia Laflex is an insane name
She should have left this guy her Dad would have gone on what th his life and her to
The title is a total lie and miss leading
The dad was jealous of his daughter relationship because she said he never abused her
Victims are always afraid of their abusers.
Dad is jealous his loosing his girl growing up and moving on with life .🤦♀️
People smile with their eyes. Bryce smile is genuine and authentic. He was a truly sweet soul. Rip.
More questions than answers here. Where's the police interview of her? None of this makes any sense.
To much talking 🤔, why not talk to girl🤦♀️why not ask Dad what he did to him.
I think he watches his daughters shower
People posting comments before watching the video is wild
Because they want to be first to comment
Maybe they've seen the police body worn 🎥 from other content creator's
@@shevystudio They are mindless sheeps. Daughter only has nice things to say about Bryce and these sheeps still claim Bryce was abusive. Maybe the father was the controlling one? Just maybe?
It's wild that you call that behavior "wild."
Being first is more important that being right in todays world unfortunately
The father is a wack job
Even after the boyfriend had been murdered, his daughter maintained her boyfriend's innocence. I think the father misjudged the situation. Even now, she speaks positively of her boyfriend. There was no actual proof the boyfriend was abusing her, and neither did the daughter ever (not once) say that he did.
I watched the whole thing and i still dont understand. Why did he kill Bryce?
He was abusing his daughter by hitting her
He has a few screws missing in his brain.
@hamodalbatal464 not according to the daughter. She defended the boyfriend during the trial.
@@hamodalbatal464 According to the murderer only. Daughter says otherwise.
Cuz Dad was psychotic
The entire original video will tell you that the boyfriend was not hurting or abusing his daughter.
His shaky voice during the first few minutes of those detectives talking to him would have made my radar beep loud!!
He was always a creeper. He always made my skin crawl. He made the girls on the softball team uncomfortable while he "helped" coach. The girls had a meeting about it. I wouldn't let my girl be friends with his girl because of him. Skin crawls
Only thing this father seems to be guilty of is being terrible at planning and covering tracks.
Father is a creeper. He makes most women uncomfortable. Ick
This is a garbage title for this video and it's getting comments which are ridiculous really if you watch the whole thing.
The father looks crazy
So what? He's protecting his kid we should all look crazy when someone hurts our children
@@rudyguevara9873 He protected no one. He was jealous of Bryce, simple as that.
America must of been a beautiful place when only native Indians lived there. All the wild buffalo the scenery must of been amazing.
Rodney Mullen invented the kickflip and many more skateboard tricks.
If we weren't here England would've taken it. It would be even worse than what we're going through now.
You have no idea the whole story. Giants roamed this land. Go listen to what the Hopi leader says about it.
@@spookshow6999your wife ?
You do realize the Tribes were constantly fighting each other and taking members of other tribes as slaves… some of y’all love to leave all that out.
The USA is beautiful today.
That's so sad, to lose her love like that.
You mean her abuser
@@godzillamanstreb524 You clearly didn’t watch the whole video…shame.
since when was 8 months considered a long-term relationship??
idk but daddy sounds so nervous his voice cracking like 12 yr old boy hitting puberty
This was unequivocally premeditated.
It sucks that people use tragedy to make jokes.
They should be thankful for,and always forgive,and remember to hug and tell the ones they love how much they mean to them.
In an instant, they could be gone.
Brian in Arizona
16:09 bro when they showed his high-school photos I could tell he was a pervert..
The fact this is Law and Crime too is insane. You guys were reputable.
They play clips from other channels from time to time
Sounds to me like it was premeditated but poorly. I totally get wanting to protect your daughter, but I would have just scared the crap out of the guy and told him to never come back. You can't be there to protect your daughter if you're in jail for the rest of your life.
Here so early the comments didn't spoil anything lol!
Thank goodness you commemorated the occasion with a comment, lest we fail to observe its importance in the future.
@kingayy9267 I obviously don't have anything going for me. One of the highest accomplishments of my life!
@@KayHarperOfficial🤣😂🤣😂
Didn't they find the boyfriend innocent? I've watched this same story a few times from different channels, and they found no evidence of abuse, no 911 calls, no bruises or anything. Was there new evidence found this long after? All the other stories made it out to seem like the dad was overly protective and a little crazy.
He is a creepy creeper. Makes women uncomfortable. I wouldn't let my daughter and cordillia be friends because he made my skin crawl.
All of you defending the dad, did you not watch the whole video? He's an abuser himself, he just did it sexually. Don't do crap that could come back around to you.
What an elaborate lie. He would’ve had to have said a whole nother version of this lie to his daughter’s face as she cried. 😬 And, he falsely admits to evidence tampering to the police.
I think it was premeditated! Great video!
People only post great things on fb, nobody wants or would post about being abused, too humiliating. What this father did now is just made his daughter glorify the abuser. To her , she will only remember the honeymoon periods and love the abuser forever, until she gets therapy. It also made her hate her father forever. Just such a big loss for everyone.
doesn't matter split up, if you need to get police involved, but no one deserves to be executed over false allegations. It's sickening that there are people like you who think this is ok. You obviously hate men.
Could be unfortunate situation for both the dad and boyfriend but from an evidentiary point, the dad is the only one who knows the story he’s told .
No man should hit a woman!!!!... not beware of dog !!!!!!! It's beware of dad!!!!!!!!
Wow! you are not smart
Bad dad.
What was the father's costume?
Ostensibly he was wearing one, since he was at a family Halloween party when the police found him for questioning.
"Exhausted business dad riding the subway home?"
"1950s husband after a long day?"
Agent 47 from Hitman
Michael Douglas falling down
Aaaw lawd he done went up and done told it on the mountain
LOL!!!!!!love your comment.
If all fathers defended their daughters, the world would be a peaceful place.
Safer, never peaceful.
You do know that the daughter only had great things to say about Bryce? And she accused her dad of stressing her out? Nope, you have had to watch the video to know this....
Maybe he was a control freak?? That was daughter said. The tattoo on dad's back is creepy too.
Didn't actually watch the video eh?
He’s a Boomer for switching cars but keeping his cellphone on him 😅
Don’t let the headline fool you.
This story is all about control. I never wanted kids, particularly a daughter.
They were only dating 8 months. WTH?!
He told on himself vocally and electronically
I don’t condone killing but ,
I don’t condone being put in the state of mind to do it and abusing any man’s daughters will put any Father there . There will be no WARNING ‼️ for some as Bryce 😔
You are wrong on this one. The dad is the creeper.
@ I knew from watching this video that it was the fathers twisted thoughts that he will pay for with PRISON JUSTICE but , I’m speaking from sane thoughts of , what would happen if a protective father as myself was put in that state of mind , After any type of abuse !!
I may go to Prison but , I guarantee he don’t touch my daughter again !!
Here lies the who once thought that’s what he really was 🪦
Now stop talking and call an attorney.
I can't stand a liar but other then that i don't see what the father did wrong...
Dadds.😅😅 now he is going fishing
And the Father-of-the-Year award goes to...
Not this loser.
Definitely not the psycho that killed his daughters boyfriend and ruined her life
What any father should be allowed to do!!!!
Maybe men would stop abusing women if they knew they might have to face the women's enraged family members without legal repercussions (for the victims' families). Same with SA.
They do it partially because they essentially get away with it.
You obviously didn’t finish the story
Sounds like someone commenting a minute after the video was posted, as you did.
There are laws for a reason just call police get them locked up and inmates will deal with them at least the father wouldn't be locked up then
I watched the whole video. These guys need to learn to keep their hands to themselves. Zero sympathy for abusers.
The dude beat the guy daughter, even though she wants to lie
Get back gang!!!
Her fault. 100%
Daughter was probably beating on the dude constantly.
Doesn't sound your daughter is being honest if she's still obsessively texting her man, and now you're paying it for the rest of your miserable life.
She’s trauma bonded
I’ll take these AI narrations over Weber and Levy live reading commercials.
I guess he £()¢ked around and found out how much some fathers loves their children.
Father of the year. . If only he would've dug deeper
The dad was a scumbag psychopath
Never trust half siblings................
He might use too excessive force but he's the real father alright
Sounds like dad's too possessive of his little girls.
He talks just a bit too much too!
@@1927suhe's being asked questions!
change your title you should be sued for defamation no record or proof the bf was abusive in trial same was said all over her fb it was said you took what the perpatrator said and ran with it meanwhile hes in prision lol some people have pdf file tendencies and that father seems like one
I love happy endings! Bye bye Bryce!😢😂
SAD 😢
Dad sounds ike George Clooney🤣🤣🤣
They like photos from behind trees.
Daughter had a bruise from wrestling. Playing hide the sausage seemed more of a reason.
Got to keep your hands to yourself.
It was premeditated...
Not to condone the father but I understand
100% premeditated.