Buying a second Leyland COE! Weirdest truck ever made!

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  • Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
  • A long while ago I bought my dream truck, a Leyland FG COE! This truck is a much worse example but very important to the build. How much is useable? What am i going to do with it? You'll have to watch and see!
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  • @donrico5122
    @donrico5122 4 месяца назад +20

    we drove several of these Diesels for Palmer & Harvey, delivering to Pubs all round Bucks Berks & Oxon. Frosty mornings whichever one would start, we used to tow start the others.
    Recall standing up in the cab to put more pressure on the brakes downhill, double declutch but if you missed the gear you were in a runaway truck!

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      That sounds terrifying 🤣🤣
      What if none of them would start? Ahah

    • @donrico5122
      @donrico5122 4 месяца назад +3

      @@elheffeschopshop 1 was better maintained for that reason, with lots of 'easy start'

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      Hahhah good work :)

  • @davecreek6299
    @davecreek6299 4 месяца назад +6

    In 1974 when I was 18, I was a training electric lineman for the Riccarton Borough Council in Christchurch NZ. I learnt to drive in one - I thought it was petrol though - and yes double clutching in first and second gear as they were straight cut gears. It was 1968 model if I remember right and we never got it into top gear as it was the line truck and we had a city run. They were known here as "Austin arm breakers" due to the gear stick being slightly behind your driving position. Also "Glasshouse". I left there and decided to go truck driving. The Yard foreman at my interview said let's go for a drive. We walked out and towards a TK bedford. Sweet I thought. But just next to it and back a bit was an arm breaker and this was what we got into. I nearly walked away then. Anyhow, we started off and up through the gears we went and the bloke couldn't believe that I didn't clash the gears! I was hired. On my first day I got to drive the "Good Truck" and that was fine but driving around the city up and down narrow alley ways etc was not for me. I was not fond of them.

  • @bren70ssss94
    @bren70ssss94 4 месяца назад +12

    Wow , these were everywhere growing up in ireland in the 70s along with transits and the old commer vans 😊

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад +1

      They must have all rotted away :(

    • @mikescudder4621
      @mikescudder4621 4 месяца назад

      Cool.... i thought about taking on a project Commer van about 15 years ago. Didnt pull the trigger...

  • @meirionevans5137
    @meirionevans5137 4 месяца назад +7

    Pretty much every coal merchant in 70's/80's UK used these. The 'Threpenny bit' cabs were ideal for multi drop work. Noisy as hell with 4-cyl diesel engine. Love the sun hat!

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      Seems like they were everywhere!

    • @philhawley1219
      @philhawley1219 4 месяца назад +2

      We put a very thick rug over the engine box to make it quieter in the cab.

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      I imagine they were noisy!

    • @peterbalac1915
      @peterbalac1915 4 месяца назад

      The post I was looking for, Threpenny bits 😂 I used to work for a seed merchant they had a J2 van if I remember right, they used to hire one of these for bigger payloads they were horrendous things but didn't know any Better back then .

  • @keithchessun5085
    @keithchessun5085 4 месяца назад +9

    When we had a problem like that, we'd pair a couple of 12v batteries in series to make 24 volts and feed it to the coil and starter. The boost rarely failed.

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад +1

      Ill give it a rip!

    • @peterduxbury927
      @peterduxbury927 4 месяца назад +3

      Sometimes, a single 12V Battery cannot give a full 12V to the Spark Coil, which can produce a really weak spark when cranking. Spark Coil may only have 10V - not 12V. A small (separate) 12V battery on the Spark Coil would cure this issue. I always think that a good spark is critical to any vehicle that has been asleep for three or four decades. I was hoping to see it fire-up and run on six! Greetings from Australia.

    • @jbhtrams
      @jbhtrams 4 месяца назад

      As I said!!!

  • @Equiluxe1
    @Equiluxe1 4 месяца назад +4

    I had a BMC/Leyland 360 back in the 1970's. 2.2 diesel engine started in all weathers and never let me down. Drove all over the country in it, loved that truck. A bit slow top speed but it would out accelerate most things in the 0 to 20 speed, ideal for town deliveries. Still have the service manual. Also had a 900 with the six cylinder with lift off body.

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      What were you haulingm

    • @Equiluxe1
      @Equiluxe1 4 месяца назад

      @@elheffeschopshop Scientific instruments and animal medical supplies, additives mostly.

  • @petersmith4455
    @petersmith4455 5 месяцев назад +15

    hi, its a BMC, i remember when they first came out in the 60s when BL took over they were re branded, mainly used as bread vans

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  5 месяцев назад +3

      What makes it a bmc? They were sold as bmc, austin and leyland :)

    • @willtricks9432
      @willtricks9432 5 месяцев назад +4

      I had a 1976 Sunblest Bread van, FG550. simple yet efficient, and loud.

    • @aswclassicsiow8588
      @aswclassicsiow8588 4 месяца назад +4

      They were badged Austin or Morris until 1968 then badged as BMC from 1968 until 1970 then badged as Leyland from 1970 onwards

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      What year did they finish up as leyland?

    • @willtricks9432
      @willtricks9432 4 месяца назад +1

      @@elheffeschopshop Not sure when Leyland took over Morris, BMC etc but I did see some FG's registered up to 1980.
      If you look on YT for UK Hippy Truck, New age Traveller and on sites like Travellers Home's or UK free festival videos you will see hundreds of FG's. there are still a few around.

  • @Free_Ranger_CT110
    @Free_Ranger_CT110 4 месяца назад +8

    There are two early '60's Thames Trader trucks for sale near where I live & I've been hanging my nose over them. This video has given me the kick I needed to get out & buy one or both. Thanks!

  • @DaveButler2000
    @DaveButler2000 4 месяца назад +4

    I know them as Leland Redlines. I worked for a company delivering frozen food. The small van was a 350 FG. The engine was straight out of a taxi. The second one was a 550 FG with a six cylinder. I was lucky, I was the HGV driver so had the Bedford KM
    Tater I worked for Lyon’s Maid and had a 700 FG.

    • @johnknipe5673
      @johnknipe5673 4 месяца назад

      I worked for the same company

  • @Schlipperschlopper
    @Schlipperschlopper 4 месяца назад +10

    Leyland was the king of trucks, busses and cars!

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      Certainly have their design styles nailed down!

    • @ldnwholesale8552
      @ldnwholesale8552 4 месяца назад +1

      Leyland was king of crap. None of their vehicles were ever any good.

    • @Schlipperschlopper
      @Schlipperschlopper 4 месяца назад +3

      @@ldnwholesale8552 you are wrong

    • @jbhtrams
      @jbhtrams 4 месяца назад

      Bedfordshire were better runners!!!

    • @jbhtrams
      @jbhtrams 4 месяца назад

      BEDFORDS

  • @raychambers3646
    @raychambers3646 5 месяцев назад +7

    My dad used drive one of these as a small furniture van in the 60s good all round vision especially with the low windows . He used drive it around ,ondon .

  • @africadreamin
    @africadreamin 4 месяца назад +8

    Had one in England in the early eighties, known as a threepenny bit because of the angled cab, put a small mini skip loader on the back, and sold it immediately.

  • @Ken_Dodds_Tickling_Stick
    @Ken_Dodds_Tickling_Stick 4 месяца назад +2

    My dad was an inspector in cab trim in Bathgate, Scotland where these, the BMC FG commercials were made in the 1970s and early 80s.

  • @ajwalou-nack2343
    @ajwalou-nack2343 4 месяца назад +3

    I used to drive one with my brother in 1979 . It was Express Diaries in Didcot Oxfordshire. It's all long gone now . My brother was a milkman and those doors you could keep open. What a thing that lorry was .

    • @andyariel304
      @andyariel304 4 месяца назад +2

      6 cylinder 4 litre Austin engine.as used in the Jensen 541and Austin Sheerline.

  • @BethzeidaJohnson
    @BethzeidaJohnson 4 месяца назад +3

    Ironic thing is that its looks like that cab would meet a lot of the current London lorry regs for vision.

  • @tineca407
    @tineca407 5 месяцев назад +8

    In 1977 I was 7 and went with my dad in one of these to a quarry in Cumbria near Kirk stone pass. I could see the sheer drop through those threpny bit windows and was so scared I got out and walked up the track😂

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  5 месяцев назад

      Hahah i dont blame you that sounds a bit freaky

    • @willtricks9432
      @willtricks9432 4 месяца назад +2

      Had an old Leyland Boxer BT mobile Cable laying work shop. Ten Tonner.
      Took it to Criccieth North Wales with the family in the crew cab, over the mountains at night .
      Pulled into a small town and stopped for a bag of chips about 9.00. Stopped an old fella and asked him the way to Criccieth, he asked where i'd come from so I pointed back up the mountain.
      He said Bloody hell over there in THAT!
      Went back a week later in the day, it was a proper,
      "Italian Job" mountain road. scary in the light but stunning. Cheers

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад +1

      Hahah i love late night weird road travels

  • @JeniwebMedia
    @JeniwebMedia 4 месяца назад +1

    I owned FG beaver tail recovery 40 years ago, it was fitted with a 6 cylinder 4l liter Rolls Royce engine made under licence by Austin. That truck could fly with a bullet proof engine, downside was the engine was petrol and a bit heavy on fuel at 20 MPG, but nothing could stop it, bulletproof. After a long day driving heading for home base which was halfway up a mountain the fan belt snapped I kept going 10 miles to the foot hills and another 7 miles all up hill, worrying about overheating. No worries the temp gauge was a bit higher then normal and the rad blow a bit of steam, she cooled down quickly and all in one piece ready to work again once the new fan belt was fitted, great engine. Unfortunate a lot the diesel models had a cylinder liner seal problem. The 2.2 diesels about the same as London Black cabs used and a lot of Ambulance was also a great engine. Asking for tips the carbs are a pain and need to spotless slightest dirt will cause starting problems. Might I suggest that the head needs coming off the carbs serviced and fuel on syphon feed. I just asked hubby who did all our servicing he I
    Doesn’t think there are any short cuts and may also help to get the ignition serviced. Good luck these are great engines.

  • @erniepenny221
    @erniepenny221 4 месяца назад +2

    Drove one of these brand new and built as a Caltex fuel tanker, mostly used for delivering fuel for domestic home heating about 1970 in N.Z.

  • @charliemanson4808
    @charliemanson4808 4 месяца назад +2

    I remember in the 1970's rural Scotland we had a van version of theses to sell bread, cakes, essentials and sweets.
    I thought the cab doors were awesome and always wanted one to make a camper out of, but finding one in the uk 🇬🇧 that hasn't dissolved into the ground is almost impossible.

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      Thats awesome! They are rare in aus too, but luckily we dont really have salted roads or snow

  • @alancampbell1008
    @alancampbell1008 4 месяца назад +4

    To free a stuck open valve fill the cylinder with some cord or rope then turn it over by hand, the cord will compress and push the valve closed.

  • @pjofurey6239
    @pjofurey6239 4 месяца назад +4

    I had one of these “three penny bits “ slow but awesome in the summer , my mates all had motorcycles , we all did , a few had cars I had one of these with a hi-ab , driving around in the summer having girls climb off the motorcycles and into the cab to skin up were blessed and happy daze . My doors were curved IIRC and slid into the cab behind the driver AIRCON BABY.fill that dink with ATF , USE A FARM JACK TO LIFT the weight - open a cold one , repeat .
    Good luck mate - following

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад +1

      That sounds like some core memories! A hi-ab would be the dream for the new planned build :)
      Thanks for subscribing, hopefully i do you proud

  • @georgelowles5077
    @georgelowles5077 4 месяца назад +2

    Drove one of these delivering lemonade in the early seventies.

  • @daviddavies2072
    @daviddavies2072 4 месяца назад +1

    Good working trucks , happy memories working in the 70s and 80s, good luck in keeping these trucks alive 👍🇬🇧

  • @paulketchupwitheverything767
    @paulketchupwitheverything767 4 месяца назад +1

    I remember those trucks so well as a kid when they were in regular use. The low level windows in the cab were so distinctive and I can't think of anything else like it.

  • @GrandadTinkerer
    @GrandadTinkerer 4 месяца назад

    When I was about 13, many, many years ago, one of my neighbours used to drive one of these for a bakery, delivering bread to shops. If I was awake early on a Saturday morning, I would go and help out on the round, in return for some pocket money.
    I remember one particular shop, where I would be provided with a wonderful cup of steaming, milky coffee, while the 'bread man' disappeared upstairs with the lady of the shop.
    It was only years later when I became older, and wiser enough to realise what had been going on!

  • @barrybark3995
    @barrybark3995 4 месяца назад +2

    went round the factory at an open day in 1978 at Bathgate near Edingburgh ,it was cool each one on the line was different colours and they really looked old fashioned even then but cool.

  • @aswclassicsiow8588
    @aswclassicsiow8588 4 месяца назад +3

    Drove one of the Diesel FG's back in 70s in my teens with an insulated body delivering meat to shops and hotels before old enough to take my class 1 HGV

  • @FrederickHopkins-xb6me
    @FrederickHopkins-xb6me 4 месяца назад +1

    In my last job in the U.K. we had a roofer customer who would bring his 'thrupenny bit' in once a year for its annual rebuild for testing.

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      Annual rebuild sounds like a costly excersise ahahah

  • @gimble447
    @gimble447 4 месяца назад +3

    Not weird atall, when I was a kid a family member had the smaller 350fg version with the single wheels and chrome hubcaps as a horse box and lots of mobile shops ( mostly bakers) had them. Interesting fact is that the angled suicide doors meant that they could be left open while driving and not petrude past the side of the vehicle, I’ve been on the lookout for a 350fg for nearly 30 yrs lol, my search continues, although they are woefully slow lol 😊

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      Awesome info! My other one has 345 badges but was a dual wheel truck, i assume that just means a bigger engine?

    • @gimble447
      @gimble447 4 месяца назад

      @@elheffeschopshop no 350 relates to Payload being 3.5 tonnes, 3.45 is just what it’s rated to in your country, 545 wil be 5.5 tonnes etc etc 👍

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      Ahhh okay thankyou!

  • @barrythompson1754
    @barrythompson1754 4 месяца назад +7

    Give that starter motor a medal!!!!

  • @martinhenrybezer8516
    @martinhenrybezer8516 4 месяца назад +3

    Blimey! ... that takes me back looking at that truck...

  • @pappakilo3965
    @pappakilo3965 3 месяца назад

    Back in the 1960s our neighbour ran a coal delivery business from his back yard. He had a truck like that with rear end that held and weighed out coal into bags. Its colour was Midnight Blue or thereabouts

  • @an-albumhole4400
    @an-albumhole4400 4 месяца назад +1

    Back in the late 70s / very early 80s these COE trucks were used as coal sack delivery trucks in my part of the UK
    I like the look, with the small windows and the rearward doors, when I was younger I thought the door design was especially for the coal delivery (I guess at that time them sooty old COE's were sadly coming to the end of there working lives)

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      It sounds like they were used for everything! What a good old truck
      The doors were designed for alleyways, so the driver could get onto the step without being further out of the side of the truck!

  • @willtricks9432
    @willtricks9432 5 месяцев назад +8

    I had a 3.8L Diesel in my FG550, it was a 7.5 Ton gross, I could bump start that on my own with a 2ft roll. Fantastic machine.
    That truck with a four speed would do 65mph on the flat, never pulled away in 1st, always 2nd but it would crawl up any hill in first. Cheers

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  5 месяцев назад

      Thats awesome! Sounds like they were tough old rigs

    • @keithterry2169
      @keithterry2169 5 месяцев назад

      The firm that I worked for in the 60s , 70s had a fleet of these. 5 ton to 9 ton GVW and engines were either 4 or 6 cylinder diesels or 6 cylinder petrols.

    • @willtricks9432
      @willtricks9432 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@keithterry2169 One of my earliest memories is sitting on the cab floor of my dads FG, passenger door as we pulled into to cafe on the A5 before it hits the M1 south of Dunstable.
      I would have been about 4 or 5.

    • @gimble447
      @gimble447 4 месяца назад

      @@willtricks9432 as a child I often found myself at the passengers feet looking out the window too lol

    • @cawsticky1322
      @cawsticky1322 4 месяца назад

      Hehe the 2 ft bump start, i had a Sherpa van that would start as easy as that, i was camping at the bbottom of a muddy slope, had a flat tyre too, used the last of the battery to put air in in, a 1 ft bump start then in second gear at tick over got out and pushed it up the wet grassy slope, jumping back in aas she gained traction....they were the days, everything was easier

  • @curtisnewton895
    @curtisnewton895 4 месяца назад +2

    I just love that truck cabin

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      Thanks man! Super weird and excellent styling

  • @marcusjones8357
    @marcusjones8357 4 месяца назад

    I have a brochure for this! Described as LEYLAND FG (350, 420 + 550). Collected myself when I was a kid in the 70's.

  • @trevorbarthorpe3251
    @trevorbarthorpe3251 4 месяца назад +1

    You need a long hill and a few mates to start them mate then don't stop it till the next hill good luck with it brings back many memories

  • @chriswilson8757
    @chriswilson8757 4 месяца назад +1

    I used to drive a Twin Steer Leyland Brick Truck with Joey box driving in the City with a full load was nuts ! Never got overweight !

  • @asa1973100
    @asa1973100 4 месяца назад +1

    I remember a fleet of these lorries with those funny little glass windows in the lower front all driving out the dairy’s buy where I grew up .

  • @basiltaylor8910
    @basiltaylor8910 4 месяца назад +1

    It is not a crap lorry, love the FG soo cute, I remember Hilliers a local Pie and Sausage Factory ran pram wheeled BMC FG oil burners as delivery vans with a rear door. WHO 316R was one FG Chassis Cowl owned by Hilliers that smoked like a Gardner 6LW. If I had your tatty FG, the chassis be shortened, then beefed up to fit a Small Block Chevy LS V-8 mated to beefed up ZF 6P26 6 Speed automatic stirred by a Hurst selector driving a Ford F-250 back axle fitted with Quaifes unique torque biasing diff .

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      That would make a fun little truck!
      I plan to use a mixture of this truck, the other fg and my isuzu npr to make a roadtrip warrior!

  • @teebodk3917
    @teebodk3917 4 месяца назад +1

    One I remember quite strongly from my childhood, and also happens to be one of my favourites along with Bedford TK and J-Series. Back then, British trucks were very common in Denmark - it seems to have ended around 1970 or so, with Scania and Volvo grabbing the vast majority of the truck market.

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      Seems like these were everywhere!

    • @teebodk3917
      @teebodk3917 4 месяца назад

      @@elheffeschopshop And those strange curved windows really made them stand out.
      As a diecast model collector I was quite shocked to find out, that no proper model exists of this (proper, being bigger than 1/76th scale)... well, there was an Asian primitive "bus"-version (a bed with benches and open tarpaulin top), but it was only sold in Asia and the prices were quite high already without shipping and taxes, so I never dared buy one.

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      I have looked for one as well ahah

  • @Mercmad
    @Mercmad 4 месяца назад +3

    Watching this i can see a few things which is stopping it from running. 1/the jumper leads. those need to inserted up the rear of who ever imports them. I make my own using quality clamps and welding cable. The power sapping fake copper the CCp uses to make leads is often the reason cars cant be jumped.
    2/ was it an intake valve stuck open? If it was,the intake charge is getting blown out of the manifold
    3/did you try it without the muffler? I've seen plenty of non runners fixed by replacing collapsed mufflers and today it's cats.
    4/ I'd have connected the battery closer to the starter .
    5/Compression? does it have any?

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      2 - exhaust i believe and 2 different cyl haha
      3 - ooo good idea
      4 - thats a fair point
      5 - i doubt it 🤣

  • @jamesmc1272
    @jamesmc1272 4 месяца назад +1

    The BMC fg diesel could be difficult to start when they got tired I remember it was my job to spray the easy start while the driver cranked. it could easily do half a can a day. Takes me back to 78.

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      Wow that sounds like a wonderful morning routine ahah
      Happy to help ;)

  • @torrerobb2238
    @torrerobb2238 3 месяца назад

    We had one off these BMC FG trucks when I was a teenager many years ago, it was origionally owned by Everready Batteries and was one off their delivery vehicles, my dad brought it and we, as a family spent many weekends, converting it into a camper van and ran it for many years with many trips away. It was used by my mother as her daily driver but eventually the steering became to heavy for her so it was sadly sold. enjoyed your efforts to get this one running but sadened to know this one will be cut up
    Robb Torremolinos Spain

  • @Simon_W74
    @Simon_W74 4 месяца назад +2

    We had one of these abandoned on a building site at the back of our House. in the 70s. We used to play in it and another truck that was with it. It is forever etched in my memory as I found out just how well a pan tin lid flies like a Frisbee. As another kid throw it and it hit me in the face cutting my nose. I was only 4 at the time and I still have the scar. I got another scar related to paint a few years later. As my Mate had borrowed a tin of paint from the Builders store and dropped it whilst getting over the gate. So I ended up trying to catch it with my forehead, so I have a scar running from one eyebrow to the other. I know think of them as my freedom scars. as Kids today wouldn't get them as most of the poor buggers live online, as their parents have been scarred into thinking the World is a really bad place. We knew who to avoid and how to really avoid and most of us made it into adulthood with only scraps and scars and for some broken bones. Sadly it was also my Generation that started to stop kids from having a proper childhood.

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад +1

      They are some good memories, even if at the time they were not great
      I remember similar stuff from my childhood which wasnt that long ago 😅
      The world changes quickly!

  • @davidsnowball2981
    @davidsnowball2981 4 месяца назад +1

    Used to drive one of those as a delivery truck for a bakery in the UK, snapped the crank it was a diesel

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      Thats a large issue to have 😅 sounds like these were everywhere!

  • @roberthay8706
    @roberthay8706 4 месяца назад +1

    used to service one of these 1968 a bread van for a local company. Mi i remember you were inand out the cab doing the tappets.and part of the service was to change the wheels and tyres diagonally. aproper pain.but a good solid truck but oh so slow.

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      Im glad i wasnt the only one getting annoying with getting in and out ahah

  • @alexangus9966
    @alexangus9966 4 месяца назад +1

    My late father had anbex bread van one that he did removals in when I was a child, apparently I used to sleep on the engine cover

  • @shinjisan2015
    @shinjisan2015 5 месяцев назад +2

    spray compresses air into the carby as you pour in fuel, might make a better mixture for fire everywhere... I mean ignition in the cylinder.

  • @darrencarney6771
    @darrencarney6771 4 месяца назад

    Remember those Leyland wagons when I was kid.

  • @jbhtrams
    @jbhtrams 4 месяца назад

    It seems to need to spin a little quicker.
    Don't do it for long but try 24 volts in short spurts!
    It used to work on Vauxhall Vivas and Chevettes!!!

  • @martynflynn8368
    @martynflynn8368 4 месяца назад

    This video just randomly came into my feed today but I'm glad it did as it brings back memories of being an 11 year old kid in the UK. I had a Saturday job helping a delivery driver deliver bread to shops in and around the Birmingham and Midlands area of the UK. We used to use these very trucks with a rigid housing on the back constructed specifically to rack the bread trays containing the loaves of bread and cakes etc. This was around 1973/74 and 75 and totally would not be allowed by law in this day and age but it never did me any harm, got to make a little money at the weekend and eat as many cakes as I could in an 8 hour period ha ha.

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      Haha that sounds like an awesome job for an 11 year old! Glad i brought back some fond memories :)

  • @michaelanthony3816
    @michaelanthony3816 4 месяца назад +1

    Get some kr oil it is great
    Use an eye droper to apply. Good luck

  • @nickb5391
    @nickb5391 5 месяцев назад +2

    I used to work on them in my day job in the mid 70's to early 80's, yours looks like a 550FG which i think had the 3.8 diesel engine normally or the rarer petrol engine

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  5 месяцев назад

      What are the visual differences?

    • @nickb5391
      @nickb5391 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@elheffeschopshop the 420FG (2 Ton) had slightly smaller tyres & narrower axles, the 350FG (35 CWT) had single rear wheels, the 550FG was a 3 Ton

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  5 месяцев назад

      This one says 245f on the side and the other says 345f
      Thanks for the info!

  • @ratheskin58
    @ratheskin58 4 месяца назад +3

    The crank nut is probably inch and an eighth BSF, it certainly wasn't built with metric fixings!

  • @michaelanthony3816
    @michaelanthony3816 4 месяца назад +2

    Use a little spray start (eather,) good luck

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад +1

      I fed it most of a can and it didnt seem to want it 😅

  • @johnblend5483
    @johnblend5483 4 месяца назад

    Remember back in 1984,i was 9 years old,in Malaysia,i ride this Leyland,but in mini bus version,its route Kroh to Grik,passing Klian Intan,climbing the Gunung Paku hill near Rahman Hydraulic mines...just a history of it...

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      That would have been a wild ride up and down mountains!

  • @OLDHAT19
    @OLDHAT19 4 месяца назад +1

    Drove a diesel version of the Leyland FG we used it as a breakdown truck all i remember it was bloody slow

  • @johnpark-jones4285
    @johnpark-jones4285 4 месяца назад +1

    I used to drive one of those around South Wales U.K. in the 70’s.

  • @herbertjohnston4608
    @herbertjohnston4608 4 месяца назад +1

    I drove one in belfast early 70s a box van with little mirrors.

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      What were you hauling?

    • @herbertjohnston4608
      @herbertjohnston4608 4 месяца назад

      @elheffeschopshop small goods for factories 🏭 she only had a single wheel axle dyes and chemicals. Before health and safety my child's buggy pram fitted in front corner I could drive around local streets to get him asleep 😴 while he was teething. 🙏

  • @bwilliams463
    @bwilliams463 4 месяца назад

    International Harvester in the U.S. made a similar-looking COE high-visibility cab to this. The truck that Hugh Jackman's character hauls his fighting robot(s) around in is one example, in this case a 1960 Sightliner.

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      That really shows the difference between english design and the us designs ahah

  • @charlesallanstewart-kl2op
    @charlesallanstewart-kl2op 4 месяца назад +1

    Love ' em don't know why ! Love double decker buses London
    ones 😁😁😁😁

  • @davidthomsongray
    @davidthomsongray 4 месяца назад +1

    Remember seeing them at the Bathgate factory in the nineteen seventies to early eighties ready for despatch in Uk or Export.

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      Maybe you saw this one...

    • @colinbaird7789
      @colinbaird7789 4 месяца назад

      I remember them as well, I stayed a couple of miles from the Bathgate factory, and i still stay nearby. The long gone factory is now a large housing estate.

  • @nomdeplume798
    @nomdeplume798 4 месяца назад

    They used to be used for urban deliveries as you could clip the doors back against the box body and you can just jump out and back in again.

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      I cant wait to drive around with the doors open!

  • @deanedeane4318
    @deanedeane4318 4 месяца назад +1

    Hi Bro from across the ditch !!! Cool ol trucks. I have a double cab one badged Leyland ( the last time I looked) it has a big arse petrol guzzling 6 which I understand is factory. When we last drove it it sure ran sweet however there was never enough fuel in my neighborhood to steal so she was parked up.....ratrod one-day maybe. Just one stupid comment, from memory some of the early British stuff was positive earth as I remember but not sure at what point that changed..... someone might clarify that.... Good luck Mate 😉🙃😎

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      Double cab! Woahhhh
      Thats a really good point i didnt even think of that haah

    • @philhawley1219
      @philhawley1219 4 месяца назад

      @@elheffeschopshop It was about 1970 that British vehicles started to change to negative earth.

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      Thanks mate!

  • @jondoherty3884
    @jondoherty3884 5 месяцев назад +3

    It's called a thruppie bit or a gold fish bowl

  • @Snowy1of1
    @Snowy1of1 4 месяца назад

    We live 30 mins by car (15 by Motorbike) away from where these were built.
    They are quite the odd truck but I love seeing you doing this. Your friend has a bus with the same cab, awesome!
    Sadly a lot of these found in the UK are way past being a parts vehicle.
    Seeing you spray it and chunks of bondo, muck, or whatever you guys call it flying of, satisfying but yet sad. Hopefully the body parts you need are solid and you can make a decent cab from it all.
    New subscriber. Will be following this build and checking the other stuff you have.

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад +1

      Such a small world!
      The bus will make an appearance on the channel one day, its very similar but no lower windows unfortunately
      Thanks for the sub mate :) hope to get ripping into it soon but theres a few hurdles first

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад +1

      Also check out the other leyland videos if you havent already they are from a while back but they show the better cab :)

  • @nigeltoon1848
    @nigeltoon1848 4 месяца назад

    Probably too late now, but I’d run a gravity feed tank to the carb rather than sloshing it down the venturi. It’s so close to running.

  • @nicward1917
    @nicward1917 4 месяца назад

    Great old Layland Thrupenny bit.

  • @user-vw5sb8lh2d
    @user-vw5sb8lh2d 4 месяца назад +1

    Seems a shame to cut up the cab , maybe useful to other people who need to restore another bmc fg type truck??😢😢

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      Thats exactly what im doing with it :) keeping everything that is useable

  • @davidjones332
    @davidjones332 4 месяца назад

    Not weird at all! The cab was deliberately designed for delivery work in congested streets, the idea being that the doors did not protrude beyond the body when opened, and provided a safe space for the driver to step down without the risk of being hit by passing traffic. The glass front quarter panels gave extra visibility when manoeuvring in confined spaces. It's always surprised me that more designers didn't follow BMC's lead.

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      I absolutely love the design and reasons behind them! But compared to trucks these days it sure is weird ahah

  • @martinkevin4827
    @martinkevin4827 18 дней назад +1

    Do you have a starting handle ? That way by pass the starter motor . I had one of these trucks

  • @michaelanthony3816
    @michaelanthony3816 4 месяца назад +1

    Clean starter the brushes may be bad or take it to a starter shop have it checked
    😂

  • @someonejaw
    @someonejaw 4 месяца назад +2

    give the starter 24 volts run the coil on 12 volts it will start

  • @tomkalleske3475
    @tomkalleske3475 5 месяцев назад +1

    I'd call it a win, it technically ran for a second or two there. Props to that starter 😂

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  5 месяцев назад +1

      Haha yeah it did run... kinda 🤣🤣 starters putting in work, its just so slow

  • @williamoneill9699
    @williamoneill9699 4 месяца назад

    Over here in Ireland I remember one of these delivering milk to our house, glass bottles back then as well

  • @coupster5464
    @coupster5464 4 месяца назад

    Arnott's biscuits ran these with a Holden 308 V8 conversion.. brother ran a 308 swapped version on the farm.

  • @andrewwmacfadyen6958
    @andrewwmacfadyen6958 4 месяца назад

    Very popular for local delivery vehicles in the UK from the Austin side of the BL BMC family tree Built in the BMC Truck and Tractor plant in Bathgate Scotland

  • @TonyLing
    @TonyLing 4 месяца назад

    We used to call that the FG back in the old Dart

  • @martin4787
    @martin4787 4 месяца назад +1

    The points gap is 15 thou, plug gap 25 thou. Free the valves up by tapping on the top of the rocker or use pry bars or both. You're pissing into the wind otherwise. Also connect the starter using proper battery leads. You're losing cranking speed by using jump leads and also connect up 2 batterys + to + and - to - to retain a 12v system. This will also give you more cranking speed by reducing the draw from one battery and lastly, remove the carb and strip and clean it and then you can set up a gravity feed system to keep the carb full of fuel.

  • @johncone9516
    @johncone9516 4 месяца назад +1

    These were the mainstay of the bread delivery companies in the UK

  • @IsMise
    @IsMise 4 месяца назад +1

    Maybe it is positive earth and heating the coil

  • @bitterdrinker
    @bitterdrinker 4 месяца назад

    My dad drove one of these picking up and dropping of equipment for an engineering company he worked for. He liked it until the Ford Transit came along.

  • @philipgould4438
    @philipgould4438 5 месяцев назад +1

    Yay ! nailing yourself to the cross again, El Heffe ? Tis Easter after all. What time does the egg hunt start ?

  • @user-bp7qt9bd2z
    @user-bp7qt9bd2z 4 месяца назад +1

    Drove a few of these in the early 70's. I don't recall them having the 4 litre/6 as I thought they had the Austin 2.7 litre/4. These trucks then were so tired they could not be trusted to reach the front gate before breaking down The Japanese were getting a foothold by then, specifically Toyota & Daihatsu, both of which had far superior products & eventually spelled the end of the smaller British trucks. That said, just this last week I was given a 51 Austin Loadstar with this engine. I am yet to repeat your exercise to determine it's fitness & at this stage given it's condition, may have to part it out.....I swore blind I would never own another Pommie vehicle years ago.......oh dear, what have I done?

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      Sounds like a super cool truck! Where are you located? I wonder if the 6cyl was an aussie thing?

    • @user-bp7qt9bd2z
      @user-bp7qt9bd2z 4 месяца назад

      @@elheffeschopshop Not sure if it was an Aussie thing. This motor was available in NZ but the only place I recall seeing it was in a Morris Isis sedan. This old truck spent it's whole life on a farm in north eastern Tasmania. The farm boys have done a good job destroying it. It was fitted with an under body hoist & an oversize grain bin. Looking at the dimensions I suspect payloads were in the order 3 to 400% of it's designed rating. Originally built as a 7ton 10 cwt unit, I suspect it has had a hard life judging by the damage. That said, the crankcase breather appears clean and the radiator had been drained 20 odd years ago, so I am hoping it will run again

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад +1

      Sounds awesome :) feel free to send me some photos on instagram or facebook :)

    • @philhawley1219
      @philhawley1219 4 месяца назад

      We had a 4 litre/6 petrol model here in England. It was fitted with a low ratio diff for use on steep hills. About 8 mpg empty and 6 laden. The six had a four bearing crank, when it started knocking we changed the engine for a four cylinder diesel.

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      A modern diesel?

  • @lindatrundles
    @lindatrundles 4 месяца назад

    Such a cool truck, can't wait to see how it ends up!

  • @davemorris8764
    @davemorris8764 5 месяцев назад +3

    Learned how to drive at the age of 13 in one of these doing a milk run with my dad

  • @denis9450
    @denis9450 4 месяца назад

    I drove these every day in the day I never had a problem with them delivering bread in Liverpool we also had a Ford D which you had to double the clutch all the time you got that good changing down you did not need the clutch if you got the revs correct none synchro box's

  • @downtheshedwithbyron
    @downtheshedwithbyron 5 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome dude
    Some times the best way to buy parts is to buy another haha

  • @Itsonlytwobolts
    @Itsonlytwobolts 5 месяцев назад +1

    Can you lever the valve up through the plug hole ?

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  5 месяцев назад

      Unfortunately not, dale and i tried that whilst trying to lift the valve, its pretty well frozen in there

  • @martinhenrybezer8516
    @martinhenrybezer8516 4 месяца назад +1

    We called them a three penny in England because of the rear entry...

  • @TheV8nutter
    @TheV8nutter 4 месяца назад +1

    24 volt that sucker. Its not spinning over fast enough!

  • @POOLEYTONY1
    @POOLEYTONY1 4 месяца назад +1

    got a picture of my dad standing next to he s mid 60s before moving onto a bedford then scania.

  • @ManuelPerez-ip4bb
    @ManuelPerez-ip4bb 4 месяца назад +1

    Remember that Leyland put the L in LS ( Leyland Service)

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      Haha, this ones getting a diesel, but one of my other trucks has an ls amd t400 ;)

  • @danielgriffith7694
    @danielgriffith7694 4 месяца назад

    You need a can of either or starting fluid 😱. Even brake cleaner works 👍

  • @RogerWarren-ec2ql
    @RogerWarren-ec2ql 4 месяца назад +1

    Good.motor.when.running.i.own.about.10.of.them.smooth.runnig.motor.❤❤❤❤❤

  • @kevinchamberlain7928
    @kevinchamberlain7928 3 месяца назад

    Genius design with superb vision from the front! Leyland produced some utter shite but there was genius sprinkled throughout it.

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  3 месяца назад

      I love the english designs, not so much their engineering aha! I cant wait to see what the vision is like actually driving it

  • @kellyswoodyard
    @kellyswoodyard 4 месяца назад +1

    These were the biggest abortion of a truck, ever built. I worked in a plant nursery for a short while, and they had a much later one, that broke down every time I, or anybody else, drove it. The owner was a pom, he also had a Leyland tractor, it was every bit as bad as the truck.

    • @elheffeschopshop
      @elheffeschopshop  4 месяца назад

      Dont worry ill be fitting a modern driveline

    • @RogerWarren-ec2ql
      @RogerWarren-ec2ql 4 месяца назад

      Too.much.bad.rumors.on.austins.and.bmc..like.gold.to.me..australia❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @jameshughes8581
    @jameshughes8581 4 месяца назад +1

    Hot lacer thinner in carb

  • @chrisval78
    @chrisval78 4 месяца назад

    The problem is not the vehicle, it's the operator.