Why can Goten and Trunks Go Super Saiyan SO Easily?

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  • @NarKu2011
    @NarKu2011 2 месяца назад +88

    That’s why there was a “tingling sensation on their back” 💀

  • @matti.8465
    @matti.8465 2 месяца назад +210

    Universe 6 Saiyans are also implied to be more evolved than the ones in Universe 7, so that might come with more S-cells.

    • @xavgmng
      @xavgmng 2 месяца назад +25

      Its not just implied. They are more evolved. They evolved past their need for tails (which is another way of saying that THEY solved the issue that the U7 saiyans couldnt. which is to fight their ego/“monkey-mind” literally)

    • @DanielMWJ
      @DanielMWJ 2 месяца назад

      "More evolved" is stupid. That's not how evolution works.

    • @Hatsune_mikuxX
      @Hatsune_mikuxX 2 месяца назад +5

      So much for evolving u6 saiyans strongest form would be super saiyan 3 man while the supposedly less evolved saiyans highest form is Super saiyan 4 which might have higher levels universe 7 saiyans wipes the floor with u6 saiyans

    • @DanielMWJ
      @DanielMWJ 2 месяца назад +4

      @@xavgmng Evolution doesn't work like that.

    • @xavierwalker6470
      @xavierwalker6470 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@@Hatsune_mikuxXstronger form does not equal stronger character

  • @eugenekrabs2403
    @eugenekrabs2403 2 месяца назад +92

    So S-Cells are the Dragonball equivalent to Star Wars' Midichlorians

    • @deathxanamon7211
      @deathxanamon7211 2 месяца назад +12

      Yep, in the fact that their use is only to explain why some characters have such great potential.

    • @alexjackyperson101
      @alexjackyperson101 2 месяца назад +4

      But better honestly, it shows how pure hearted a sayian is

    • @azimuddin1890
      @azimuddin1890 2 месяца назад +2

      @@alexjackyperson101
      Well the Midichlorians also explain why not everyone can become Jedi or Sith. Otherwise there’d be much more or them, or Sidious would see everyone as a threat.
      Let’s say a made up scenario where in this, anyone can be a Jedi: During the Galactic Empires reign over the galaxy, a random person wants to become a Jedi, finds all the artifacts they need, train for two decades, and becomes an off-shoot Jedi, and fights Vooder the Wise Guy.

    • @christianbryan6961
      @christianbryan6961 Месяц назад +2

      Imagine having both

  • @vulth9907
    @vulth9907 2 месяца назад +27

    "By the power of bullshit, i call upon my master technique, on the spot bullshit explaination !"
    Toriyama in nearly all interviews, probably

  • @elizapony8736
    @elizapony8736 2 месяца назад +51

    My theory is Super Saiyan gets easier for those around you, once someone breaks that initial barrier.
    But what i don't understand is why did Kid Trunks have Super Saiyan, but Future Trunks had to lose Gohan to get his?

    • @Omegamatias
      @Omegamatias 2 месяца назад +20

      He didn't in the manga, Trunks had SSJ from the beginning, it was Toei who tied the transformation with Gohan's death for dramatic flair

    • @scramblelikeaeggbeforeifol5833
      @scramblelikeaeggbeforeifol5833 2 месяца назад +2

      This is not demon slayer 💀

    • @impedimency1007
      @impedimency1007 2 месяца назад +2

      it kinda makes sense more that trunks didn't get it till gohan died with SmugSticks theory, because of a peaceful world, main timeline goten and trunks could happily and peacefully achieve it because of their surroundings while trunks was in a destroyed world constantly under theat so he couldn't make as many s-cells as fast

    • @Omegamatias
      @Omegamatias 2 месяца назад

      @@impedimency1007 That's a nice hypothesis, but the thing is, Goten and Trunks don't need the enviroment that much for their S-Cells as much as people think. Toriyama explained that they inherited a great amount of S-Cells from their fathers (which don't trigger the transformation, just make it a lot easier) especially Goten since Goku already was a SSJ, and also they're mutants, "Tailless progidies". The fact is that there is already an explanation for why they got SSJ so early, and even if Toei's History of Trunks has that great moment, the thing is that at least the original material shows that it wasn't really needed

    • @harikiranv8580
      @harikiranv8580 2 месяца назад

      Well kid trumks had goten to train and spar where eventually they did use ssj, but in manga its implied that future trunks from young age also did undergo ssj before gohans death.

  • @saassaas460
    @saassaas460 2 месяца назад +50

    So this means a biologist
    like Gero could creat Super Saiyan infinite by giving more and more s-cells to Goku? *Joking, lol*

    • @modelomegatyler
      @modelomegatyler 2 месяца назад +2

      he'd have to pull some from another saiyan. ^^'

    • @jbear9
      @jbear9 2 месяца назад

      In theory kind of yes.

  • @azimuddin1890
    @azimuddin1890 2 месяца назад +2

    What makes them more impressive is that they have park close to Cell Saga level, as a guide even said Goten’s power is not inferior, and Gohan even thinks he would surpass him if he himself doesn’t train. I also heard that (Present) Trunks’ base power is = to that of no.18, not sure but makes sense as Dabra even thinks the Saiyajin trio was powerful but not Piccolo Jr who was stronger than no.17 who was stronger than no.18. So to me it checks out.
    Also that they mastered Super Saiyajin. In the Cell Saga, Gokou & Gohan mastered Super Saiyajin, which was originally Grade 1, the form all Saiyajin obtain first, and improves them to be like their base so they aren’t aggressive, don’t let out their aura like they always do in the manga from grade 1-3, and they can stay in it for a long time. Goten & (Present) Trunks literally have those, and you can tell as Goten acts no different than his base, which is a characteristic of Grade 4 / Mastered Super Saiyajin.
    Those two are far more impressive to me than them having Super Saiyajin Grade 1.

  • @Iceflkn
    @Iceflkn 2 месяца назад +1

    It would be cool if the saiyans had created the s cells with their unique technology. Even if it turns out that they had forgotten this through the generations. It might also explain why they look so much alike and are born in birthing pods.

  • @ianhardy9375
    @ianhardy9375 2 месяца назад +1

    Vegeta have gotten the Saiyan buff since Frieza beat him mercilessly and killed him but was revive and spend an unknown amount of time in space, during the three year gap, he trained under 300x to 450x gravity so he supposed his limit but did not acquired enough S cells to trigger the transformation as he continue his training in space the second time till dealing with meteors, before he left, he left a parting gift for Bulma. Goku on the other hand was already a super Saiyan and surpassed his limits to master the form and during the nine day wait before the Cell games, Goku spend time with his family and left a parting gift for chi chi before the event so it's not surprising that the two boys inherited the super Saiyan from their fathers

  • @Mr_randomchaos
    @Mr_randomchaos 2 месяца назад +1

    I wish this was used instead of the back tingly thing

  • @deuspalirroia
    @deuspalirroia 2 месяца назад +1

    On the universe 6 topic, most people think its bs they are as strong as they are but we know the kinds the saiyan they stronger than can become, easier

  • @Dashingcookie
    @Dashingcookie 2 месяца назад +6

    That means if Goku and Vegeta have a child now the the kids will go ui and ue in a second but what Abt Frieza

  • @cody3504
    @cody3504 2 месяца назад

    Imagine a version of Frieza that just farms Saiyans knowing this information lol

  • @genesismultiverse4896
    @genesismultiverse4896 2 месяца назад +1

    Huh surprisingly Luke the medaclorians which are the reason force users use the force

  • @PhantomStar1987
    @PhantomStar1987 2 месяца назад +1

    Interesting! I didn't know this! Thx! 😊

  • @smallwjl
    @smallwjl 2 месяца назад

    My theory to add to this is if you live as a conquering space lirate always possibly about to die you would be under a lot of stress. The stess hormone cortisol either surpresses s cell production or kills the cells outright. This would also go along with gokus assertion that ssj comes from a need, which can be tied back to the flight or fight response, meaning heightened adreline, coupled with higher s cells, with a high enough power level triggers the inital transformation.

  • @rashedulhaqueshimul
    @rashedulhaqueshimul 2 месяца назад +3

    Out of curiosity, are Ted and Mattie on a break or something?

  • @LUCAS_1843
    @LUCAS_1843 2 месяца назад

    Or it could be a time distortion from Trunks Time traveling 🤔

  • @guardianknight3447
    @guardianknight3447 2 месяца назад +1

    So there are new information the legendary super saiyan is actualy a mutant like broly so in the past mutant saiyan is consider the legendary but because they so rare and basicaly no great fighter left in universe the saiyan lost their drive to become stronger and the information of the legendary super saiyan get mistaken for the ordinary super saiyan transformation

  • @V-A-U-G-H-N
    @V-A-U-G-H-N 2 месяца назад +2

    So too many u get broly to few u get king vegeta

  • @AnonyBoiii
    @AnonyBoiii 2 месяца назад

    Even with the S-Cells “explanation”, I still think Goten, Trunks, Caulifla, and Kale got SSJ too quickly and easily (as well as SSJ2 for the latter two).
    Goten and Trunks should’ve unlocked SSJ when they got news of Vegeta’s and Gohan’s deaths at the hands of Buu. Then during their time in the Time Chamber training, they’d learn to control it. Also no SSJ3 Gotenks, cause that still makes no sense.
    As for Caulifla and Kale, I feel like just leaving it at Caulifla only managing to tap into it briefly rather than full-on achieving it with the back-tingling method would’ve been better, along with a brief showing of Kale’s berserk rage in her base through an outburst rather than (again) right out achieving it after crying a bit.

  • @Tores444
    @Tores444 2 месяца назад

    He just made up some bullshit like midichlorians in Star Wars 😂

  • @jasonhuynh5174
    @jasonhuynh5174 2 месяца назад

    Ok but I’m not so sure about universe 6 Saiyan being gentle hearted

  • @hoshiryu
    @hoshiryu 2 месяца назад

    I'm ok with the Explanations, but I will still despise U6 Saiyans, also going with how Games were used as Official Media back then, a Power Level of 8K was apparently enough, now a days it has to be around Goku landing on Namek or vs Frieza

  • @Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024
    @Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024 2 месяца назад

    I'm pretty sure It's less that they're prodigies and more that they're born powerful enough, like U6 Saiyans basically being able to will themselves into super Saiyan without significant anger
    The S cells also logically correlate with power of course
    Like if you're born with cosmic powers you're not a prodigy you're gifted yes but not a prodigy
    Someone who can learn 100 years worth of knowledge in 10 is a prodigy

  • @Charcol_x_gameplay
    @Charcol_x_gameplay 2 месяца назад +1

    Do one with great ape vegeta and goku pls and pin me if you eventually do it

  • @thezeldatheorist3217
    @thezeldatheorist3217 2 месяца назад

    Universe 6 saiyans have no tails so they might be different in that regard mb that’s why they turn ssj so easily

  • @Lil_Agent-4
    @Lil_Agent-4 2 месяца назад

    And yet The actual Super Saiyan of Legend was depicted to be a demonic wicked monster
    *cough Z Broly cough cough

    • @RackerTheRascalMashup
      @RackerTheRascalMashup 2 месяца назад

      Legends change up as time passes. Misinformation could be one of the many factors to why no Saiyans could figure out how to become a Super saiyan

  • @NinjaAimless
    @NinjaAimless 2 месяца назад

    I felt it was just Genetics for the kids. Once there daddies hate it unlocked it was unleashed in there DNA especially for Goku where him and Goham….i mean Gohan mastered it to the point it felt normal. Let’s just hop Pan gets it in the next movie or whatnot 🤔.

  • @NickDoraRaw
    @NickDoraRaw 2 месяца назад

    So epigenetics

  • @shariq32gaming39
    @shariq32gaming39 2 месяца назад

    I really hate how the universe 6 saiyan become super Saiyan they should have worked hard to unlock super Saiyan

  • @Blitraz
    @Blitraz 2 месяца назад

    But yamoshi's power was not close to namek goku if im not mistaken.

  • @BlankEmoticonReal
    @BlankEmoticonReal 2 месяца назад

    Saiyan offspring are stronger than their parents it’s why vegeta was so much stronger than his dad

  • @greenspeedser
    @greenspeedser 2 месяца назад

    It's equivalent to bonney going ssj

  • @NinjaAimless
    @NinjaAimless 2 месяца назад

    Ahhhh so the S stands for Stupid as Hell I see 🤔. Legendary you are Akira Toriyama, good idea… this was not 😂.

  • @Goku_makes_shorts
    @Goku_makes_shorts 2 месяца назад

    Truly why goten got ss

  • @bensoncheung2801
    @bensoncheung2801 2 месяца назад

    Cool.

  • @CallMeIAN1
    @CallMeIAN1 2 месяца назад

    Bullshit, the basis itself is intelligible. oh boy, i miss the old ssj, where it was an invincible grasp of power in a legend, now its just a shadow.

  • @Roto3
    @Roto3 2 месяца назад +9

    If only didn't bring that " Tingly back feelling " nonsense into the story. 🤢

    • @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle
      @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle 2 месяца назад +2

      As if making two 10yo super saiyans was any better

    • @zenkaiforms
      @zenkaiforms 2 месяца назад

      Let it go whining won't do shit

    • @geekforeverpixelgamingsurl5007
      @geekforeverpixelgamingsurl5007 2 месяца назад +1

      @@HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyleI’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks that way.

    • @Roto3
      @Roto3 2 месяца назад

      @@zenkaiforms Let's not defend crappy writing decisions.

    • @Roto3
      @Roto3 2 месяца назад

      @@HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle ⚠️ *half breed Saiyan jumpscare* ⚠️

  • @cartoonloverkaisa
    @cartoonloverkaisa 2 месяца назад

    Still doesn't excuse It only took "tingling sensations" for caulifla, to achieve ssj..
    (S-cells or not, the way caulifla explained how they managed to turn ssj had to be the most bullsh## thing I've ever heard In DB..) 😑

  • @DanielMWJ
    @DanielMWJ 2 месяца назад

    It's really cringeworthy when authors make shit up without doing enough research to make sure what they're saying isn't stupid.

    • @What-ish
      @What-ish 2 месяца назад

      Eh. Its fiction. Pseudoscience comes with the territory. If you let that piss you off you won't be able to enjoy any of it.

    • @DanielMWJ
      @DanielMWJ 2 месяца назад

      @@What-ish It's really only a problem because it's such *basic* knowledge. Like, 5th grade stuff. It's not technology, either. You can get away with a lot with technology and extreme or novel physics, but basic biology? Instant destruction of suspension of disbelief.

  • @obi-nh9eh
    @obi-nh9eh 2 месяца назад +1

    That...kinda ruins the fun

  • @Kevdawg516
    @Kevdawg516 2 месяца назад

    What’s with the bots talking about call of duty..? 😂

    • @Enerjjak
      @Enerjjak 2 месяца назад

      Was wondering the same thing honestly😅

  • @Sg190th
    @Sg190th 2 месяца назад

    S Cells

  • @KamehamehaSuperStyle
    @KamehamehaSuperStyle 2 месяца назад +1

    🤫🧏

    • @SmugStick
      @SmugStick  2 месяца назад +4

      Stay mewing king

    • @Roto3
      @Roto3 2 месяца назад

      THE KING OF CATS 🤯🤯🤯🤯

    • @bensoncheung2801
      @bensoncheung2801 2 месяца назад

      Wow.

  • @aaronking1642
    @aaronking1642 2 месяца назад

    He didn't say this until wayyyyy after buu arc was written. Immediate dislike. Enjoy the extra engagement as I call you a fake fan

  • @boredfangerrude8759
    @boredfangerrude8759 2 месяца назад

    Not Saiyans, half Human, half Saiyan.
    S Cells are NOT Canon.
    #RejectSuperBullshit

    • @nostalgiaboy6240
      @nostalgiaboy6240 2 месяца назад +1

      the s cells were from a toriyama interview

    • @boredfangerrude8759
      @boredfangerrude8759 2 месяца назад

      @@nostalgiaboy6240 Noted. Still not canon.

    • @NotTheDragon837
      @NotTheDragon837 2 месяца назад +1

      @@boredfangerrude8759 Toriyama literally said that's how it worked. Whether you like it or not, you can't say it's not canon. because that is just your own headcanon. you can't just disregard it because you don't like it. that's like saying "Oh I don't like X character, they're awful. so actually any scene with X character in it, isn't actually canon.

    • @boredfangerrude8759
      @boredfangerrude8759 2 месяца назад

      @NotTheDragon837 1-Because of the issues with outside sources like interviews, taking them as canon makes no sense. For example, contradictory information or info that just doesn't make sense. So sensible people take them with a mountain of salt.
      2-WE decide what is canon. The original source material is the only ironclad Canon. Everything else is up to us to accept or reject because if we reject something and vote with our wallets, they have to bend to us, to decannonize it.
      Remember, GT was a canon continuation at one point, but it was de-canonized after the backlash.

    • @NotTheDragon837
      @NotTheDragon837 2 месяца назад +1

      @@boredfangerrude8759 Again, it came from Toriyama himself. First off I don't remember GT ever being canon? And secondly, if that was even the case, then official sources made it no longer canon. No contradictory statements or official changes have been made to make the S-Cell thing no longer canon.
      If what you said about GT is true, the backlash it received made the official Dragon Ball team de-canonize it. But they have not done that to this thing, thus meaning it is canon, and will be canon until official sources say otherwise