So Far, Helldivers 2 Is A MASTERCLASS In Live Service Support And Ongoing Storytelling
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- Опубликовано: 8 апр 2024
- It almost feels like the games industry has collectively chosen to use the live service model in the worst ways possible. With some very rare exceptions, the vast majority of times a game chooses to be an ongoing experience, that decision is made first and foremost (if not even entirely) for monetary reasons.
Very rarely do we see games adopting that model for the good of their actual playing experience- but that is exactly what Helldivers 2 has done, and done it in a way that many may not even have believed could be done anymore.
From how it collaborates with the entire community to tell its story, to the unique ways in which it keeps rolling out new content and features, Helldivers 2 has established an incredible live service blueprint that everyone else in the industry needs to study extensively. 
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NOTE: Since the writing of this feature, Arrowhead Game Studios has confirmed that the Automaton faction has returned to Helldivers 2.
We're doomed 😢
Lock and load! FOR SUPER EAAAAAAARRRRRRTH!!!!!
Somehow they returned.
We beat those toasters once, we'll beat em again. For Super Earth!
Also how malevelon creek was 100% a player driven thing story wise and the devs acknowledged it and made it part of the lore.
The creek is legendary.. The trees spoke binary
The cape reward when it was captured was genius!
Hate the Creek, Love the Crawl
I bought this game on release and had no idea wtf it was about....but I was hooked instantly. The devs are amazing and the community is fantastic.
Same here, a week after I bought a ps5. Had no idea it was coming out. Great intro to PlayStation.
Microtransactions are micro. No hyped-up roadmap. No fancy corporate marketing. Allowing players to discover new stuff in the game. Engaging with players through in-character posts and tweets. Reasonable price. And most importantly, the game was designed to be fun before asking us to spend more money on it. In short, it's a breath of fresh air.
you forgot the part where you can gain the premium coins in game
@@loj114 Most live service games do that already. Their battle passes also do not expire. This is a big thing for me because I do not want to be forced to play because of a time limit for something I bought. I want to play the game to have fun and chill out.
@@GNCD2099Don't think there's any other game that keeps previous battle pass up. Not sure what other games let you farm in game currency. The one i played that let you earn currency, is through their battle pass but it's limited.
i want to add that the basic battlepass, that comes with the game, has almost enough currency to buy another battle pass.
so, by playing a bit the game, you already have earned a battlepass.
@@vincentramirez6967 That's what I meant. They are the only ones whose battle passes do not expire.
HELLDIVERS 2 has been such a great experience that, for the first time ever, i bought the game for someone else.
If this game doesn't get any award i lost faith in gaming
GOTY. Others, supposedly "triple A" games, are just using their brand name to siphon money from players. Hopefully they learn from Arrowhead.
The only game from my experience where player base is not toxic, everybody is helping each other.
This is honestly the best game I’ve played since halo 3, keep it up arrowhead 😁
I’ll add left 4 dead 1 & 2, on that list as well.
GOTY hands down
easily. best multiplayer/co op game in the past 10 years
THIS is what Live Service was SUPPOSED to be when we first heard about it. It was supposed to be a continuous win/win for devs AND players Why did it take so long to do it right?
Because investors are pushing to maximize profits like in the mobile market telling publishers to do so
There needs to be a fireproof armor set
Don't need fireproof if you're not an idiot
@@jilau7478 true, but u can never account for the idiots around u
The Arc resistant armour gave 95% reduction because only players get arc weapons. I think a Fire resistant armour should be 40%, maybe a little less. Automatons also have fire weapons and besides, fire weapons are more predictable than arc weapons. Make it so fire is still dangerous but give the player some wiggle room.
Of course, what we really need is for fire damage on enemies to function properly. Right now, only the host player can use it properly.
Dolphin dive makes this pointless
@@King_Jarvus
Dive + Shield
Remember next Helldivers video that it's Illuminate, not Illuminati. 😅 I understand it happens, even had a good laugh.
SES Stallion Of Selfless Service reporting for duty
Still one of the best live service games we gotten in years even the most popular ones
Helldivers 2 is an homage to the 90s era Hollywood science fiction
The one thing I hope they add to the game is the ability to get your samples out of a hole if you fall in it and die.
No!!!! It's supposed to be difficult and let it stay that way.
@@MultiSam42 there's a difference between being difficult and being unobtainable. When you spend 35 minutes collecting every sample on the map, on the highest difficulty Just a fall into a hole in the dark and lose all of the samples with no way to get them back, It's a little dirty. Even if the only way to get them back was to use a hell bomb or something similar to blow up the hole, I'd be all for it 💥💥💥
Helldivers don't fish
I agree, to often i have been blown of a cliff or in deep water and cant get my samples back :(
I love this game and for the most part enjoy playing! I mostly match up with randos as folks i know don't play HD2. I would imagine this is a blast with friends. I have a lot of hours already, but i know id play much more if i played with a group of people consistently.
I'll dive with you, PS5 or PC?
just talk a bit and ask to be friends with people you have good games with. Most people are open to adding others, they may not be consistent but if you build a list of like minded divers you should be able to join/call them in and always have3-4 people to play with
Most live service games feel like work. Helldivers 2 feels fun. There's a lot more nuance to it, but that's the key difference that publishers miss.
For DEMOCRACY!!
I love how they add new enemies in game without saying anything.
Suicide Squad never had any hype from cradle to the grave.
All they need to do is buff the armor from the Cutting Edge Warbond, hopefully make it immune to EMS
@guyincle126 EMS doesn't kill, it slows you down or interrupts comms. They can also reduce the affect 95% like they did arc damage.
Point is no one is using the Armor in my games nor in the footage I see from content creators, so it's a fail, and a failed expansion/DLC hurts longevity.
100% agree. Fantastic game. 100% the way to do it. Last game I got burned on was BF 2042.
imagen that the word live in live service is key... U would think this was a given... I still think its much more fun fighting the bugs then the robots.
Loving the game
Sonehow, the Bots returned.
but their community communication is trash. From CM drama, CEO comments, Dev's frustration taken on the community.. idk
GOTY
It’s so good
ffs. its illuminate not illuminaté.
I love this game!!!
SES Leviathan of Audacity entering ftl...
So this game is all about constantly shooting stuff?
o7 Helldivers!
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aged like milk
The gameplay and the battle pass system of Helldivers 2 is very good, its just that the cosmetic rewards are not to my liking.
ILLUMINATAY
I cant take this guy seriously his gamer tag is phareeha and plays on difficulty under level 7
And I bet you other publishers would get the wrong lesson from this game
That’s pretty much a given.
They'll hire experts to make a checklist of what makes it fun but they will still somehow get it wrong. Remember the time when everyone was trying to make a MOBA of their own? Well, only 2-3 are still alive and kicking. We're in the looter shooter era and from the looks of it, the same thing will happen. Only a small handful will survive and it will be no surprise that it will be the ones who set the trend.
@@GNCD2099 Same with MMORPGs afer EverQuest came out and for most of the 00s. Ultima Online came first but the genre really saw it's mainstream success with EverQuest pre-WoW. A lot of publishers and devs gambled with being the next success story. Also, with FPS and Open World games but both eventually found it's way out of just being trends.
Absolutely right you are. Without even understanding what makes a live service work and what gamers want from it, they ll just come up with generic live service title, developed by a single player games developer 😂😂😂😂 (this is the biggest irony) off course talking about crystal dynamics, rocksteady and some other studios like arcane(the redfall disaster) I am an xbox fañ and play on the console as well, but that don't mean I won't criticize xbox so that they learn what went wrong. Unlike some playstation fan boys who ll only look to target xbox and blame xbox for playstation's mistakes 😂😂😂 I wish they understand.
@@BrokenNoahLost all faith in Warner Brothers Interactive Entertainment Discovery Channel when they confirmed all live service going forward over "volatile" nonsense despite releasing the best selling video game of last year
Surely you mean Deep Rock Galactic.
I widh they had a campaign cause i have no friends 😢
Its fun solo aswell... I mostly play solo.
Wish it had local co-op
I play solo all the time. Beaten every difficulty too.
DEMOCRACY CANNOT BE STOPPED!
Take notes xbox
omg imagine blowing $70 on Anthem
it would be sweet for an alien and predator crossover
No, a starship troopers crossover tho
@@RT-bt5ql it pretty much is already that tho
The way that you say the illuminate lol😂 don’t ever do that again
@user-br3lg6cb8e I’m good thanks! 😊
Just do your homework better.
Shout out to the ps 5 helldivers. No shout out to the pc peeps
Far from masterclass, but still fun when it works
Illuminahté??? Lol
@user-br3lg6cb8e no
Xbox reinforcements still waiting.
Not needed us ps and pc players got this and it's a sony ip so won't be on xbox
Mate the 21+ million xbots are not needed plus even Microsoft confirmed almost all of those are glorified rental service users not actual supporters, hell PC alone has almost 2 billion users alone meaning no new market is required
Buddy, it's not just a game Sony published. They also own the intellectual property. It's not coming to other consoles. Get over it.
I hate how you say illuminate
Wait the illuminati? So now there's 4 factions and one is humans with too much power? 😂😂😂
Illuminate are not illuminati 😂
Honestly lost hype for it. I’ve dealt with so many crashes, glitches, network errors, and getting randomly kicked it’s insane.
When I do play it’s wildly imbalanced and inconsistent in difficulty. Since it’s been so glitchy it’s even hard to tell what’s by design.
Looked forward to this since announce and it’s actually disappointing
@user-br3lg6cb8e sure, how do I message the channel ?
Too bad its live service. I won't pay for a money pit
It's not a money pit. By any definition.
Yeah if the servers wouldn't crash ALL THE TIME
It's not entirely the engine I think it's the anti cheat
Get rid of the kernel level anticheat and I’m in.
Tbh, we all need to look into Arrowhead's financials before saying whether this live service is successful or not. It's fun and fair for players but Joel still have a company to run and families to feed. I gratefully paid for the game and 2000+ super credit extra just to keep the live service going. Consider it a tips to the studio.
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