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New movie imagines America’s next Civil War | On Balance
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- Опубликовано: 14 дек 2023
- The trailer for Alex Garland‘s anticipated action movie “Civil War,” has dropped, set in the near future and depicting the U.S. amid a new civil war . Military historian Victor Davis Hanson, author of, “The End of Everything: How Wars Descend into Annihilation,” joins “On Balance With Leland Vittert” to discuss the premise of the movie, saying, “We are having a pre-Civil War geographical force multiplier."
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We're already in a cold civil war
2024 is gonna heat it up!
@@BajatheChickenMan: 2024 is going to be a nightmare.
True
Most of the so called republicans will side with the communists. For money and security.
@@T3_Survthat’s why political affiliation has to be left out of it
principles - and conviction to those principles - is all that matters
We are already in a civil war, we don't have to imagine what it will be like. We are living it. Question is, how far will it go.
Excellent thought!!
💯 correct
Please describe the Civil War you speak of as currently seen through your eyes.
@@ericgranberg8893 opposing governmental factions using lawfare against one another while opposing factions of citizens physically attack each other in the streets over political beliefs.
You are precisely correct. The real danger is if this turns into serious violence, because when that happens, the trucks and trains quit rolling, the food quits coming, the power goes off, the water quits flowing, and so on. That will by itself result in the deaths of millions, but also takes America out of the world’s power equation, which gives China and any other predatory global faction free rein to act. As for the movie, what movie? I heard not even a name for it.
Victor please stay healthy… We NEED you!
I firmly second THAT!
he is the voice of reason
The worst and most sinister part of this is that government has positioned itself to be both the instigator and the arbiter of all this.
You mean Donald Trump. Clearly he’s the instigator. His goon squad attacked the Capital on Jan 6th 2021 remember?
Yes so NATO ,one world order can come in and save us. Create a crises
Well said
A nation divided against itself cannot stand.
Obama and Brennan are 100 % responsible for the state if our country now.
Not 1 word about them in the news.
It wont
BUT a house with a bad foundation CAN prop itself up long enough to clean out the rot and make a new one..
just sayin..
And, we are about as divided as we have ever been.
@@ripvanwinkle2002 no. A house cannot prop itself up. Especially on a bad foundation.
The foundation, when it was laid, was good. The house that was built upon it, was good. The people that lived in the house for years and years was good and took care of the house and the land upon which the house sits.
Family upgrades, moves out to bigger and better house and a new family moves in. The family that moved in was not good , could not afford the house and did not take care of the house or the land upon which it sits. The grass grew tall, the trees started to fall and the land became unstable because of the trees that fell that left holes in the ground exposing the roots to rot and the water began to pour into the holes and around the foundation and made it crack and break and become weak which in turn made the house settle and crack and leak and rot.
So basically, this is what a ghetto thugg liberal gay muslim woketard obama did to our country in record time right under the eyes and nose of the people ...
The black community cannot be blamed completely because Obama is only half black and why he did not move back to Chicago.. Obama Hates Jews and poor black people....
Not convinced?
Look up obamas properties and see who his neighbors are.... no black people live even close to him around any of his many properties that he somehow managed to pay cash to pay off the mortgages immediately after Epstein was arrested and then murdered in his cell.....
Obanas net worth as of this past Monday, over 600 million dollars, 540 million of that coming in the last 4 years, immediately after Epstein was arrested in Tetorboro and then murdered in his cell.
What are the odds of that being coincidence?
The people that think the most armed country on Earth can't have a civil conflict are insane
Meh... I watched riots in my state. There was the COVID era right to work protests in my state. The media successfully denounced working people as terrorists. The there was the BLM riots. The governor joined the protests. It took over a year for the city to remove the scorch marks from when cars were flipped over and burned. The media called the protests "peaceful". BTW, there is NO snow in the lower 48 states. Why? It's not man-made global warming. Google "December 2023 Solar Flares". We have been hit by a series of powerful flares. *What's my point?* News is VERY suppressed in the USA. There was a power blackout in NYC & it was not reported in US media.
Well let's hope Trump gets voted back in then
If you think trump is not part of the show your kinda stupid.
More insane are people that think an insurrection happened in Jan 6 without guns !
It will probably start late in 2024 or early 2025. You cannot VOTE tyrants out of power.
The amount of wisdom that, Victor Davis Hanson, packs into every sentence is astounding.
wisdom - 1. the ability to use your knowledge and experience to make good decisions and judgments.
He lacks experience and knowledge of what it's like to be a racial minority in this country so when he says people being tribal based on their skin color , he can't understand because he's never been through anything like a racial minority in his life. I'll never under nationalism or patriotism
@@jvanek8512 Your statement goes both ways; a paradoxical statement. If you are a "minority" group, you lack the wisdom of other cultures; therefore, your statement holds no weight.🤨 It is purely a strawman argument.
@@jvanek8512he is smarter than you will ever live to be
@@biggoards2772 I am a minority who has faced discrimination growing up in this country and it's why I'm not patriotic. Davis has never faced anything equivalent in his life he and you can never understand. If I had to put my self in a group I'd be loyal to people who look like me before some common citizenship nonsense
@@jvanek8512 That's your experience however, YOUR experience is the exception not the rule.....think on that. You seem very narrow minded; do you think you're special? That others haven't experienced some form of discrimination? Where is the wisdom in your logic? How do you know whether this man hasn't dealt with hard times? Are you 2 related? If not, you must be a mind reader who can divinate peoples lives right?
VDH is a great man! Extremely intelligent and actually tells the truth!
Victor always has a great handle on the situation.
Yeah, a great hold on idiocy.
Of course real racists like this victor davis character tries to play up "class" to hide his true racial feelings and simultaneously hopes that he can deceive others...sorry VIC - the gig is up.
He doesn't know shit from Shinola.
"College" does NOT mean you are educated.
More like indoctrinated.
But it can mean that you are educated if you're in a STEM field, where you really do train your mind to develop some deep concepts
So it’s only education when you agree with it?
@@Rnankn If it's a bunch of psycho babble that goes in one ear and out the other, it's really not educating you. You can agree, disagree, be indifferent or undecided about what is being taught. Far too much of college is straight up word salad.
@@donsena2013having been to college means you're credentialed and gain expertise in one field if study.
STEM is necessary for industry.
But the social sciences is where it's at if you want to understand the world. In fact, that's exactly why they exist. But there's less of an industrial value attached.
Generally people should stick to their fields. Too many college grads think they know more than they do.
Personally I think being educated is a lot more than a degree, and you don't need one necessarily. I've met too many idiot narrow minded degree holders to believe that...
Victor Davis Hanson is the voice of reason among a vast sea of ignorance.
gordon chang very knowledgeable regarding the worlds super power>>>>CHINA.
I prefer Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson good man👍🏻
All of the race stuff started in July 2013 when Barry was outraged at the full acquittal in a court of law of George Zimmerman for the death of Trayvon Martin and encouraged protests.
All of the race stuff started in July 2013 following Barry's reaction to the full acquittal in a court of law of George Zimmerman for the death of Trayvon Martin
Encouraged protests
Great interview: Honest, comprehensive and to the point.
College programmed... Not educated...
IT’s education. You should try it sometime. Get real.
Indoctrinated and brainwashed. They do not even know that FDR refused to save any Jews and starved Americans and punished farmers who did not help him starve people.
If the college system is not educating people. This country is doomed.
@@shawn13mertle13 Yes. The US is rotting from the inside. Young Americans do not know FDR was a Jew-hater who refused to save any Jews. He also starved Americans and put racists on the Supreme Court.
Engineering, math and sciences are probably the only exception.
I was a college professor for many years. I did my best to create a tolerant environment where everyone felt like they could speak. But our universities are in serious decline. They are fomenting this leftwing subculture that is out of touch with reality. The professors/administrators/hr people never realize it because they live in their heads and never really encounter people who think differently from them. Then the students are sent out into the world convinced by the propaganda they've been fed, which in their view must be true because it's what "smart" people taught them. The whole thing is a recipe for disaster that may be unavoidable at this point. The only way out of it is to found new universities that have a different culture. But the effect of those institutions wouldn't be felt for at least 10 years or so. It may be too late.
this was defector yuri besmenov's prediction in the 80s, amazing how similar it is
Our security agencies stated that the most dangerous threat to civil peace is right-wing extremist, not the left. You cannot say you promote a tolerant environment in one sentence, and then blame all woes on, what, a leftwing subculture. That's about as far from a tolerant environment that you can get.
We have to hit bottom to look up to the light. That's the story of the prodigal son.
So you're a right-wing Trumper
Really! Like the "rightwing subculture' doesn't live in a bubble dominated by fantastical conspiricy theories... One thing I have noticed about right wingers that buy into such pathetic BS like QAnon is that they aren't stupid at all, but rather gullible beyond belief...
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Yet one party is erasing history as we speak
💯
Victor Davis Hanson has the unique ability to decipher what is and what isn't in this country. He is the Walter Cronkite of our generation.
Thank you for mentioning Wyoming in this, we get left out of conversations alot. I've lived on both coasts, big cities but love calling 6,000 feet elevation in Wyoming home now. I feel like we'll be one of the last outposts of American FREEDOM there is.
Same here in Kentucky
And Utah
I faced facts There are 2 or 3 different countries from sea to sea . A Secession party is in order . We don't need another Cival War
Caucus mountains Wyoming, that’s why it’s good to know some brothers from out there
yes, i live in eastern side of oregon, where mail in ballots have saddled us without a voice since the great leadership of tom mccall. many outside of urban sprawl want to expand idahos western border over this vast portion of the beaver state. even if that effort succeeds, we are still saddled with national crisis and chaos. wyoming is far more balanced politically, displayed by the revolt against despicable war pig lizzy cheney.
It's coming. No doubt.
I support the Pirates! We are "behind enemy lines" in Kalifornia.
Thank you Victor for a great take on this. Common sense is sorely lacking in this country. The “desk bound elite” need to be educated about what is really important to keep this country together or this film will become a reality.
The fascist MAGA cultists who want to make Trump a dictator need to be educated about what is really important to keep this country together.
There, fixed it for you.
And the "orange jeezus" lovers need to read a book and stop watching Fox or whichever facist media outlet.
I wouldn't exactly say the "desk bound elite" are in great positions either. Our jobs have been outsourced to other countries as well.
This isn't an issue with costbound elites as much as it is an issue with corporations screwing over Americans to save a quick buck.
It is possible that those of us who sacrificed to obtain an education somehow failed to learn the lessons those who elected to remain ignorant learned while we were studying facts. Please consider that we are all teachers and students throughout our lives. Please consider what trump offers America. Ignorance is no excuse for treason.
So, the conflict will be between those grounded in reality and those who aren't. I think we can all see how that will turn out.
one side already has a lot more guns.
Yeah, and the side that's NOT grounded in reality and living in the Trump la-la land is the side that has more guns. Thanks Right-wing rag, News Nation (Media Bias Chart. Ad-Fonts).
Lefties don't want to lose yet another civil war. Besides; dems can't fight with body odor and misspelled protest signage.
£ock~n~£oad
@@BajatheChickenMantrue enough.
I didn’t realize it was a movie. I just thought it was the nightly news.
I was hoping that it was the nightly news.
😂
The nightly news is a movie too.
It's all a bad sci- fi movie and we're in it.
It's called conditioning to what's coming!
What's the name of the movie, it was cut out of this video
Victor David Hanson’s insight is invaluable, cautionary warning to the tribalism being fomented on college campuses and arrogance of academic “elites” (Harvard, Penn, MIT) to the nonsense they are espousing
Right. Unlike the tribalism & arrogance of the MAGA cult espousing all their nonsense.
Thanks for being so biased & one-sided in your views.
Screw college. It’s a socialist training system to turn our kids against us. A degree is Worthless today. You need to have a skill not a pice of paper. Screw democrats and their gimme gimme attitudes. Get a job
yes, many institutions tolerate the intolerable. uc irvine on quite a anti semite display the last couple decades.
What’s nonsense is this statement… The far right Talking Heads and misinformation and disinformation campaign is what is fomenting this tribalism. And putting the educated necessarily into this shows that you have been folding into this Extreme Right cult
My nephew moved from Tacoma , Wa. to Wyoming . Fifty years ago my parents moved from Western Washington to Eastern Washington , you say that was not a very big move , oh yes it was , Eastern Wa. was way more conservative then Western Wa/. Thanks Mom & Dad
Let Dr Hanson Talk that’s why I’m watching
Haha
When Professor Hansen speaks it would be worth your time to listen .
It ain't worth my time to listen.
About two weeks until the New Year 🎉 Never thought I would live long enough to see 1860! 😳😂
😅👍
Brilliant insights! He describes our declining condition accurately and we all know where this is going....
Everything he said was biased and inaccurate.
@@Rnankn 😅😅😅 Uh, huh. Go back to your mom's basement. Empty arguments from uninformed people are not interesting.
I’m in my 60’s and still in the fight behind enemy lines in CA. The country I served is on its last breath and I have no hope for it. I saw this a very long time ago and we decided not to bring children into this 🤬up world. I will resist and fight to the end for the country we used to be, even when there is no hope.😢 We have been far too generous to the elite & lazy.
How sad you haven’t experienced children. I’m nearly 70 and couldn’t imagine my life without sharing it with my 3 children.
@@edwardgomez3633some people don't want to have to see their kids suffer....some do
This combat vet will also join the militia
@@noneyabusiness88 my 3 live full lives. Wealthy does not equate to happy. Many dont have kids because they “cant afford to”.
@@noneyabusiness88 If by 'suffer' you mean learn that the world isn't all rainbows and butterflies, got news for you. It's been going on since the dawn of time. I was very young when I learned our President was shot and killed, we got roped into a war in Vietnam where older brother's friends and wife's cousin were killed, MLK and Robert Kennedy assassinated, Son of Sam, Yuba City kidnapper, etc. etc. There's always been f'd up people out there, but thanks to smartphones the coverage is in your face now. And political pundits from both sides of the aisle use the footage to push their agenda that the other party are all idiots. Yawn.
“The consolidation of the States into one vast empire, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of ruin which has overwhelmed all that preceded it.”
-- General Robert E. Lee, CSA (retired)
You mean deceased.
@@jacobmasters438 Both. “Old soldiers never die, they just fade away.” (Gen. Douglas MacArthur, 19 April 1951) Lee had the prescience to see what would happen eventually. Too bad no one took him seriously.
Lee was right
@@fumble_brewski5410 Then why did Lee deem it not worthwhile to flee into the mountains and wage gorilla warfare against the Federals? He knew what it would have led too. The idea of fighting another civil war is utterly ridiculous. We should try the whole voting thing first. In fact just this past November my county only had 8.9% registered voter turnout. That's unacceptable in a Constitutional Republic. By definition that is mob rule.
Thanks for sharing this quote as it led me to a list of other insightful quotations attributed to RE Lee. A complex man. Clearly, a man who had a grasp of history in his day and time and opined seriously about longer term developments that would reach far beyond his death in 1870. He is a man worth studying, on many dimensions.
We're seeing this in Canada too.
I fear our country is speeding towards the precipice of civil war on roller skates. One minor historical nit to pick with you. At around 2:30, you correctly recount how R E Lee turned down the opportunity to command the union army. He was not, however, a general at the time. The highest rank he achieved in the U S Army was Colonel. Respectfully submitted
One side denies the possibility, the otherside prepares for war
Mmmmm not entirely the side you say is not dealing in reality commands all the agencies with guns (and nuclear weapons- as Biden reminded us) and they react with this power at their leisure. I cite Inauguration Day where Biden had more troops deployed in DC than than Afghanistan at the time. The left planned and executed Jan 6th as a pretext to employ such force as to intimidate or incite insurrection. They are not stupid.
💯 correct
Correct. Say it. Democrats keep playing inside the lines and think if they can just get the other side to see it there way everything will be okay. The other side keeps crossing the lines and get bolder by the minute, right up to Election Day 2024.
@@CarlosIowa What the...??? "Democrats keep playing inside the lines..." You are either a troll or insane. Democrats broke their own state laws in 2020 & 2022 elections so they could keep counting. Democrats in my state tread all over the state & federal constitutions. Supreme Court ruled against the magazine bans, but Democrats keep pushing the unconstitutional bans.
When one party is actively trying to keep the other party's candidate off primary ballots, its a bit of a stretch to claim they are "playing inside the lines". @@CarlosIowa
It wouldn't shock me if this became a documentary this same time next year.
You, unfortunately, have a good chance of being correct. All this powder keg needs is an igniter. The 2024 election will provide the spark no matter what the outcome. While our first civil war is aptly called the "War between the Blue and Gray," the next will be recorded as between the "Red & Blue."
I dont get why Texas and Calo would team up. Like what 😂.
@@Noodlepunk I''m guessing the executive producers did this to bake some 'NOT REAL' into the cake. Otherwise too terrifying.
@@Noodlepunk Nothing said they would. I think the point is that they are two different spectrums who both disagree with the norm (Federal Gov.)
@@Noodlepunk both could succeed for very different reasons that would normally put them at odds, but have to set aside their differences temporarily to join together in fighting the federal government.
Similar to how the nazis and communists did in 1920's Germany. Once they topple the government together, they fought it out until the nazis beat them and took over.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend mentality
I remember a similar movie in the 80's. THE DAY AFTER was a dystopian movie about survival of nuclear war during the arms race US/Russia.
It’s already beginning, the population is shifting to their preferred regions
Great movie!!! The part when Kevin bacon saying “ya know we pissed a lot of people off over the last few years” so true
What movie are they talking about? The Obama Netflix movie?
www.youtube.com/@Frazior/featured
Bacon would know,, He and his wife are liberal biden lovers.....
Thank God we have intelligent people like Victor Davis Hanson, because Leland isn't that smart.
Ah GOP Lee now openly hosting seditious commentators on the fairest show on TV. No coverage of the missing Trump binder or the Rudy verdict for lying about the 2020 election… is d’nesh guest hosting this week? Disgraceful!
@@Mymenagerie714more clearer?
is that similar to “more better”?
When Victor Davis Hanson speaks, you listen.
Has it ever occurred to you that comments like this are part of the problem?
@@scottythetrex5197 Which comments?
Not to mention that in the trailer for the movie it’s stated that all empires fall, it happened to the Persians, the Greeks, the Romans, the Abbasids, the Mongols etc. All were mighty empires but they rise and fall like the tide and sadly the U.S is no exception and it is definitely a topic to worry about for sure.
The potential reality of this can't be lost on any of us
We're breathing the Potential
@@franklinj1038💯 🎯
I don’t he’s right about college education as far as it relates to economic opportunity.
The skilled trades are fairly screaming for new employees - and offering generous pay and benefits, even huge sign-on bonuses in some cases.
If I were a young person today, I’d learn how to weld or drive truck, etc. That’s where the opportunity and money is.
Not trucking unless union.
@@robertwatkins9106 True -- the best-compensated truckers I've known were unionized.
Naw. As far as I know college graduates have significantly higher life time earnings...
I'd prefer pursuing our dreams rather than chasing money blindly.
Trades are getting Lawyer money now! Plumber did 2 hrs work and I forked over 3 Benjamin's ! I put twins through College 4 years ago and it was just staring to become DEI, communist convention centers. Now, forgetaboutit! So many trades will train you WITH PAY, to have a life-long skill that is portable. Imagine NOT paying the Federal Government the equivalent of a 30 year mortgage to pay for your $hitty, overpriced worthless (in most cases) education. Whats a student loan rate now, 6/7%?!? Start making $40K plus at 18! By the time your in your mid 20's. your over $100K! Average mean salary in the US is $54K!!!!!! Don't waste you time unless Gender Science and Puppetry are your JAM!
“We’re going to Fundamentally change America”
b. obama
That was fun.
I now know what George H. W. Bush meant when he said "We will usher in a New World Order"
Notably, Remington, one of our nation’s oldest manufacturers (guns!) is leaving New York and moving to business-friendly Georgia. Also, I doubt the same old union voting bloc will be reliably voting for Brandon after he told a factory worker in a hard hat “I don’t work for you “ and events have proved it’s obviously true.
A-hole works for himself...
Never heard that Brandon comment before. Methinks you're lying.
I certainly saw his remarks live on NEWSMAX but I guess you only watch CNN.
@@robr1089 If you saw his remarks on Newsmax live, your opinion is already warped and highly suspect.
@@donyoung7874You voted for Biden?
This movie will break Box office records especially in USA
hello pretty lady how are you doing today and the weather condition like
Another insightful observation by one of the wisest persons I've heard speak in modern times, perhaps ever!
i take exception to the terms working class and college educated. i have a batchelor's degree and i've worked my ass off for over 45 years. Just because you're college educated doesn't mean you don't have to work for a living, and work hard. that's one of the things changes in our language has done, drawn artificial divisions.
The modern college educated = indoctrinated sheepole
Yes. Look at VDH himself, a farmer who went to college. He never lost his connection to reality.
He is talking about today's college graduates not the ones who attended a American first college you attended.you do prove educated reduces common sense.
Civil engineers do some real work, and are generally a little more based than the average “studies” major.
Throughout human history, slaves were never allowed arms by their masters...
Who is working to disarm YOU ???
Professor Hanson is the best!!❤
The divide really isn’t by state; it’s really urban vs rural. Even the bluest states have large cities that are dark red.
Tell me what blue states have larger cities that are dark red?
@@MrSteeDooare you serious? Austin TX, New Orleans, Atlanta, Cleveland, Memphis, Charlotte, etc etc
@@JohnR22926 Those are all red state cities that are deep blue. You have things completely backwards
@@JohnR22926 Austin is a liberal city. But maybe you're Californian and think its conservative. Those inner city blacks in Atlanta or Cleveland are NOT voting red, or are the wealthy educated liberals. (Austin is rich white liberal)
Keep your powder dry and your bayonets sharpened.
And your WITS about you!
And your Axes mended or 🤔 Ex's attended
Agreed
No bayonet. Tactical tomahawk.
Uh…I think you’ll need fewer AR-15’s and more F-15’s😂
Interesting how "college educated " doesn't translate to working class. The takeaway is that "college educated ",is synonymous to "elite ".
Interesting paradigm. I got a BA in accounting and then became a Union electrician for the next 36 years. When I did that you never told anyone you went to college or you would never get into the apprenticeship. My degree was virtually free due to the military. Am also a vet. Never viewed going to college as being “elite” never viewed being a blue collar worker us being “lower”. Made $349K my last year before retirement 2 years ago at age 60. Was a site superintendent my last 15 years in the trade. Just facts.
And yes I am solidly red. You cannot find a more ardent supporter of those limitations placed on the government, known as The Bill of Rights, than myself. You can read them, especially the 2A, and see that there were no compromises written in. The 2A is blunt.
@@consco3667 The colleges and universities have become brain washing boot camps for the left. I was an English major in the 90's and read the Communist manifest and Mein Kampf, and unless you are aware of the nefarious intent behind what's happening in this country, which most young people aren't, it will be too late to save what we have here in this country.
@@consco3667 I got out of the Infantry, went and got my BA in Literature, because I enjoyed the subject. Went back to blue collar jobs afterward. I will say, however, before I went into the Army, working as a coal miner, how pissed we were when a history teacher went into the mines. We felt he squandered opportunities most of us had never had. But, the money was better in the mines at the time.
@@durgan5668 I always felt my advantage was while on active duty I got 3 years of college out of the way. As a person who does math in my head accounting made sense to me. 😂 Never have had resentment for anyone due to their choices.
Sometimes I look back at it and think that Elon Musks career path would’ve been a better choice 😂😂😂😂😂
And they're some of the most unlearned and idiotic people around. And their unwitting parents pay 10s of thousands of dollars for the pure crap they call "education." Read the Great Books, etc., and stay out of those intellectually bankrupt institutions.
My concern is that the advent of a civil war here in the U.S. will be seen as a green light for Russia, China, and North Korea to seize the initiative and launch a coordinated attack. I am fairly certain that they have played a major role in fomenting the current political polarization that we currently have here in the states.
Nah. We’re the most geographically protected country on earth. We’ve already seen how Russian is severely handicapped logistically trying to invade their neighbor.
Most defiantly China.
China Joe Biden …
China for sure
It was Mark Zuckerberg! Stop blaming foreign countries a yt man did this
We need to listen to this man.
Lee was a Colonel at the outbreak of the War to Repel Lincoln’s Aggression. He became a general while in Confederate service. But, yes, he was offered a generalship in the Union Army and command of all union forces. He declined the commission because he was a Virginian first and could not lead a foreign army to invade his native state to kill friends, relatives, and neighbors. It was the only honorable and moral choice.
The war started when rebels attacked a US fort in Charleston harbor. There had been no "Lincoln Aggression" at that point. It was all in the fevered imagination of a lot of South Carolinians when they interpreted Lincoln's words the way they wanted to interpret them. They started the actual aggression, not Lincoln.
Yes the South did start the hot part of the war with the firing on Ft. Sumter as it believed as a sovereign nation they couldn't allow another country to have a fort in their territory. The interesting thing is no one was killed on either side in the bombardment. I've often wondered if they just bought the fort as a piece of real estate if the war could have been avoided? My guess is it would have just cooked off somewhere else at a later time.
@@red88chevy The Confederacy made offers to buy the Union forts and arsenals in Confederate states. The Union turned them down in no uncertain terms. The Union would have never given up those forts peacefully. Why should it? They were federal property.
Lincoln forced the Confederacy into acting, and if it hadn’t been Sumpter, it would have been elsewhere. There was not any legal justification for the aggression of the North, which is why President David was never tried for treason; the attorneys for the Union could find no constitutional or legal basis for a prosecution, and so it was quietly dropped.
@@cleanwillie1307 President Lincoln suspended the writ and habeas corpus and arrested numerous people for committing no crimes other than disagreeing. Lincoln had an arrest warrant issued for John C. Breckenridge, his political rival for the presidency from Kentucky and the Democratic Party. Breckenridge was against secession, but was forced into the Confederacy bc of Lincoln’s actions. Breckenridge had been the youngest VP in history at 36, he was a rising star in politics. Breckenridge is one of hundreds of others whose rights were violated during a time of combustible fuel that ignited the war. Also, Lincoln baited the South to firing shots at Ft. Sumter. I’m a Lincoln fan and my relatives fought for the Confederacy. Lincoln had the world on his shoulders and I applaud him for keeping our country together and his work that led to the end of slavery, but he is not innocent of violating the US Constitution. The War Between the States was brewing since 1783. Lincoln forced the war upon our nation just as much as any southern politician that advocated secession. Lincoln was an aggressor with his actions. Violation of rights are what pushes conflicts not just economic ideologies. People feel like their Constitutional rights are under threat by our current government and executive administration… actions speak louder than words, and the actions of our current administration,plus the media, has created this toxic environment. It needs to stop and forcing people to believe lies must stop. We have way more in common than differences. Outside forces are obviously involved in this as well as bought politicians and media outlets. God be with us all!
Urbanite aspiring rappers and trust-funder hipsters Vs hunters, survivalists, combat veterans including a sizeable former special forces community.
Who wins?
Thank you couldn't have said it any better 😂🤘
😁🤘🏻
And don`t forget all the college students studying Lesbian dance history and getting worthless degrees. Surely these people will be willing to bust some caps and pull their weight. It has been pointed out that the vast majority of American soldiers killed in combat during Iraq, Afghanistan wars have been white, working class guys from southern states. And the vast majority of the combat infantry units are made up of white southern working-class. Anyone who does not understand the implications of that is stupid.
I agree with what your saying...but the govt. Will side with one group and I don't think it will be the right.
But that's why they are letting in all these foreign men. They came to "fight".
If you think this is bad you haven't seen how people go insane after three days of chaos. The average American think they will be ok no matter what happens.. If you feel bad when you use a mousetrap and kill a mouse you're going to be in immense shock when SHTF..
im happy more people are bring this to light!!! you cant fool us anymore!!!
"College Influenced" not "college educated"
EXACTLY. Many professors are very convincing speakers. If we're not careful we will be influenced by their divisiveness, including this one who is capitalizing on the division with his book.
College brainwashed works for me.
the wake up movies begin ...
leave the world behind? 🤔🤔
Less government versus more government is one issue that did not get settled in the CW and it still rages today to the point of festering into rage for both sides.
I absolutely love listeng to victor speak
This country was founded on the idea of allegiance to your state. Hence "states rights". The Federal government was intended to be a LIMITED central government with LIMITED powers. With all powers not SPECIFICALLY granted to it in the Constitution to remain with the state's (ie: the people). We have fallen so far from the original design of our republic I am not sure there is any going back. As well the population of the US has the largest amount of foreign born inhabitants (they may or may not be citizens) at any point in history. Many of who may or may not have any allegiance to anything connected to American heritage or culture. That is not a slight on immigrants. We are all immigrants at some point in our ancestry. But if you want to be a part of this Nation, assimilate. Contribute to it. Do your part to defend it. Make it better and pass it along to future generations. My first direct lineage (4th great grandfather) ancestor came to North America in the 1750's and was involved in the founding and creation of this Nation. I have direct relatives who have worn the uniform of this Nation in every conflict since the Revolution and technically before (French & Indian Wars). We have been here since the beginning. We will be here til the end (whenever that end may come). Doing what we can to preserve it and protect it.
God bless you, that was well said! Sadly most of our recent immigrants have no intention to become Americans, just to take advantage of our largesse. There are enclaves of different cultures everywhere, and more division is ongoing. We are becoming tribal, not united, and our Nation is falling into pieces.
I Also, Have Descendants Who Fought and a couple have died , defending our Nation since its Founding . We came to America in 1678 and are "Still" defending our Country in Uniform
borders, language, culture. you are absolutely correct our constitution is being trashed.
States rights is the confederate contention, but they've made the cars alike and decided that issue is a problem with the Federal Government.
Lev 19:35, Pro 11:1
@@curtbrockhaus6131 I do not exactly understand what you are trying to say but the states created the federal government. All of the powers that the federal government possesses came from the states and if a power/authority was not given it does not exist at the federal level. Or atleast that was the intention. The problem is we have fallen so far from the original structure it is unrecognizable.
President Lincoln suspended the writ and habeas corpus and arrested numerous people for committing no crimes other than disagreeing. Lincoln had an arrest warrant issued for John C. Breckenridge, his political rival for the presidency from Kentucky and the Democratic Party. Breckenridge was against secession, but was forced into the Confederacy bc of Lincoln’s actions. Breckenridge had been the youngest VP in history at 36, he was a rising star in politics. Breckenridge is one of hundreds of others whose rights were violated during a time of combustible fuel that ignited the war. Also, Lincoln baited the South to firing shots at Ft. Sumter. I’m a Lincoln fan and my relatives fought for the Confederacy. Lincoln had the world on his shoulders and I applaud him for keeping our country together and his work that led to the end of slavery, but he is not innocent of violating the US Constitution. The War Between the States was brewing since 1783. Lincoln forced the war upon our nation just as much as any southern politician that advocated secession. Lincoln was an aggressor with his actions. Violation of rights are what pushes conflicts not just economic ideologies. People feel like their Constitutional rights are under threat by our current government and executive administration… actions speak louder than words, and the actions of our current administration,plus the media, has created this toxic environment. It needs to stop and forcing people to believe lies must stop. We have way more in common than differences. Outside forces are obviously involved in this as well as bought politicians and media outlets. God be with us all! Arresting political rivals and inflaming toxic political situations… does any of this sound familiar???
South Carolina threatened to leave the Union as early as 1828 and 1832 over tariffs they deemed illogical to their regional sustainability. The politicians kept kicking the large issue down the road for someone else to figure out or contain.
By 1860 the lid was about to come off.
@@ericscottstevens you’re spot on. Andrew Jackson prevented civil war, but many could see what was coming. Jackson was a very strong leader and from sheer force of will kept the Union together and maintained the peace. After Jackson until Lincoln the country got one termers, and VPs who inherited the problems from the deaths of their predecessors. Weak leaders. By the 1850s the second generation of American leaders that kept making deals like the Missouri Compromise, Compromise of 1833, Compromise of 1850, etc… were dead or dying. The third generation of American leaders particularly up north were done with making deals to keep the peace. It was inevitable.
Victor Davis Hanson is the best!! Hope to meet him someday.
It's VERY possible. Red vs blue, it's been pushed for decades
We can avoid a civil war if we reduce the federal government, reinforce the idea of state rights, more localized government.
Guess you have no clue how corrupt local government is these days, as well. Pay attention you will be shocked
SEAL the goddamn border, and ENFORCE every law on the books. Everything will sort itself out from there. Oh, and AMERICA FIRST ON ANY AND ALL DECISIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
States are dependent on federal government money. They can't go to war if they don't want to lose their budget. The military capacity and ability of a single state is miniscule.
@@TehKaiser correct, this is all theater to get you folks riled up
@@TehKaiser incorrect, the federal government is dependent on the states, not states dependent on federal government. You got it completely backwards. The federal government does not produce a thing, they collect taxes on what the state produces, owns, and off sales. The states have all the power, it’s time to start acting like it.
Most "blue" States are really just States were the urban population vastly outnumbers the rural populations. IE New York and California, where 90% of the geography is actually red.
In war, you need soldiers not geography.
@@HIMYMTR ...white suburban soccer moms don't make great soldiers either.
Yes they know this and they use it to convert all state to the blue side.
Exactly there are no blue states only blue cities
@@howard7689 Exactly, and all of the govt is urban. That's why the militia types will never be effective,
Right on! May be necessary to save the country!
Yes, I think I will seek out this movie, I agree based on the way things are going.
A lot of people in central Massachusetts even independent voters are conservative and will vote that way .
Hanson is referring to "Harvard's Claudine Gay, Penn's Liz Magill and Sally Kornbluth of MIT".
Name of movie?
Civil War
I pray and hope this isn’t all hype. They talked about this in the past about a red wave which never happened. How anyone can vote Democratic in 2024 after witnessing what they did to our culture and AMERICA is beyond me.👎🇺🇸 The past 3 years has been the worst I have ever seen with Dems in power.
We are seeing a very real course correction. Let's pray that it will remain peaceful.
the red wave didnt happen because the chair of the GOP sabotaged it both times to try and prevent "Trump types" from gaining office..
the red wave got washed out by swamp slime
Sadly, many ballots only have democrats on tickets like in big cities or just in California. It's very hard to find Republicans or alternate candidates. Hence, voters have no choice but to vote democrat and leaves California as a one party state. Dictatorship? Yes
There's plenty about the Democratic agenda that's wrong. But if you don't think the GOP sh!t the bed by being hijacked by evangelicals to the point of successfully taking us back in time (reversing 50 year old Roe v Wade) then you will continue to be clueless as to why the red wave never happened. Regardless of your stance on that very important topic, more Americans support a woman's right to choose. We're supposed to be a self governed nation where majority rules. But don't kill babies, amirite? And make the Guvmint stop 'em from doing it, cuz we're the party of FREEDOM!
You got that right, friend.
It is starting in high school which is more influential than college. The public educational system is the problem.
A house divided against itself can not stand. We are Americans first. The reason America has and can stand through time is our ability to unite and work together for a common good. We are unique in the history of the world in many positive ways. We should focus on what unites us not what divides us.
Steve when we're at the point when the other side doesn't know the difference between a man and a woman, Ive got nothing more to discuss with them.
I see and feel the exact same thing a countries greatness was defined as unity which we no longer have in many ways a hateful division
Whiteness, Christian nationalism, patriotism, women back in the home, no abortion or birth control isn’t important to a large segment of the population…sorry. I just did a quick fly in and out of the Missouri Bootheel for a cousin’s funeral. It looked like a 3rd world country with downtowns abandoned…yet these people vote solid red😂
Facts and truth before feeling.
A true American genius
This is why the founders intended the power to remain within the States where the people could better control it.
All great societies fail, eventually. All of them.
Soviet Union for one
"The Anglo-sphere is committing mass suicide". quote from ~ Victor Davis Hanson - Hoover Institution 04/09/2021
I trust Victor Davis Hanson....He speaks softly but has a deep well of knowledge and under
standing....We should all listen to him with purpose and gratitude !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As a university student in the mid 1980s, I thought that it was very obvious that college wasn't the real world. I enjoyed my time in the bubble, but knew that life was very different off campus.
we Catholics have abdicated our responsibility and forfeited our credibility
in the face of political polarization and increasing secularism.
What is the name of the movie???
Anyone who wants to see what civil war looks like should read Hanson's A War Like No Other; God preserve us from that!
I'm an old man. If I was young, I would emigrate to the EU where I would find social stability
Victor Hanson...national treasure!
preview for 2024 yall!
The anchor is so clueless
Vittert sure likes to hear himself talk - Let VDH get a word in please.
Whats the movie?
Cannot WAIT‼️‼️‼️
The Aliens are on the side of the Government, since the United States is overseen by an advanced alien shadow government....
the illegal aliens are too! The government will recruit them to fight Americans. Look at how many fighting age men are coming across the southern border by the day.
😂
Something clearly there in there government 😢
Extra-terrestrial aliens are a fabrication of the Government.
Dr Hanson , a great intellectual.
Victor Davis Hanson tells it like it is ! A great narrator of American history !
At this point idk how you can even watch alien movies and think it’s entirely out of the the realm of possibility. We’re at a point where it’s just as possible as the civil war 😂
What's the name of the movie?
lets get the party started
Atlas is not only going to shrug, he is going to shutter.
Obama, has his hands on this movie. This is what he wants.
You mean funding it in part like the recent Netflix film? Can you provide citations for your assertion?
@@johnmguzman7491 I assert the fact, that Obama has his hands on this administration and the damned film. He is a real piece of work, who definitely needs attention from the DOJ and Law Enforcement. The whole justice system is a wreck, with George Soros backed D.A.’s and judges. Then on top of that, we have Merrick Garland, who is in the pocket of this administration. They have this Union in a mess of huge proportions, like I have never witnessed. The majority of the media covers for this administration. They want Trump so bad. What they are doing has never happened here. It’s all a nightmare. The new crew will be at the polls. That is a guaranteed wish from the Democrat politicians. If Trump does not make it back, the fate of this Union will be sealed. A non politician, who is not corrupt like a politician, is the only way at this point.
@@Faronthefiddler I had said this for years. You are correct.
"...things fall apart; the center cannot hold; mere anarchy is loosed upon the world;
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere the ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.
...And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"
(W.B. Yeats, from "The Second Coming," 1919)