Ill take 10 reloadable launch cells, and however many drones can fit on a pallet, plus another pallet of missi....I mean, high altitude weather probes....
Quick idea. If you changed the detect from a short to a resistor you could have the flight computer detect the type of booster dependant on resistance detected
that's an understatement, he is probably being followed by an fbi surveillance team and stalked by several recruiters for companies that build missile systems for governments.
Great video. I don't do rockets but fly RC planes. One thing a few RC player do is have Reflective tape in stuff like batteries, receivers and servos. Makes it easier to find your lost items at time time with a huge flash light. I know it tight in there for extra stuff and the reflective tape will not last on the out side of the rocket. All so have to watching out for tape that will block singles. I'll have to check out your other videos. Keep up the great work.
Sorry you lost your avionics bay, data, and camera recording. I've spent a bit of time searching for planes and rockets in fields. Most recently, my Dad downed my 5" fpv quad in a lush soybean field. We had a bit of goggle dvr to provide general area, but what saved me was the auxiliary beeper. Setting the beeper up on the bench-top I thought it was crazy loud. In the real world under vegetation and wind it was difficult to hear, but we eventually found it. I have no doubt you will improve on your systems and redundancy. Thanks for the ride. I'll stay tuned in for the next one!
This is definitely worth considering, although with a rocket you have the added problems of a much larger potential search area and the possibility it buried itself in the ground since the parachute failed. Some sort of radio beacon might be the way, like we can use a directional antenna on FPV goggles if there’s still a weak video signal.
tip from a skydiver, use a braided dacron/polyester line instead of your kevlar "shock cord" as kevlar has so little stretch that it will easily apply too short of a duration (and much higher peak) shock load causing it to break free... and instead of trying to attach it to the load in tension loop it around and under the entire bay so that it is held in compression and much less likely to fail... also realize that even a human body from several thousand feet with a modest (10mph) cross wind will drift much more than you think, estimate the "terminal velocity" of you lost "bay" (much less than a rock, tennis ball, ping pong ball, small parachute) to determine the "freefall time and then apply that crosswind component to it
I don't know about the legality of rocket motors in the Staates but the Patriot PAC 3 doesn't use an explosive warhead so, it might not even count as a weapon....
@ it’s actually not the explosive charge that would be the problem any sort of active guidance system that has a camera on the nose of the rocket is actually considered illegal or pretty heavily restricted from what I understand.
This month I've been planning an infared cruise missile project with a couple friends we intend to air drop from an rc plane. I'm very excited to see where Hatchet goes! Your guidance videos have been so helpful it's not even funny... Thank you
Bro, absolute respect. Im gonna build something way less techy, but your ideas are awesome and very inspiring. I love drones, rockets, and planes. The math, the planning, and meticulous maintenance/ assembly. All worth it in the end.
Might be time to find a cheap little tattler beacon you can program (like an esp based chip). A two way link, plus a simple burp you can use a basic foxhunting (radio direction finding) antenna to get a bearing on (like two wires 1/2 wavelength apart, when the source is in line with the support between the wires the signal is at its loudest, but there are other antenna types, ie yagi, cantenna, loop, etc). The two way link could provide denser data, but if for some reason you cant find it but still talk to it you can send it a command to 'sleep' until a certain time (like when you can get back out into the field to look for it) to maximize battery life (maybe even a little solar cell if you want to get really paranoid). Have a minimum power mode that will just burp every minute or some such, perhaps a mode that if it does not detect a signal of some sort switch to burps every hour or something, again to maximize battery life yet still have a predictable behavior in the event of data link loss, maybe auto sleep between night hours. Or hell, add an old point and shoot xenon flash circuit (should be pretty light, heh light), and go around dusk, send it a signal to flash every 30s, minute, whatever, and look for it with a drone camera... [shrug] Just my 2 cents worth of brain droppings. Honestly, and I have about 20 years fabrication and machining experience under my flab, with all you've achieved so far Im a bit surprised the thing cant just walk home! LoL You've made some serious self taught/motivated/funded leaps and bounds not only in rocketry, but in autonomous control systems in general. If this stuff doesnt get you hired by raytheon or some other supplier of big boy toys, the world is truly unjust. Anyhoo, awesome work mate, keep on keeping on! 😎👍 Still jealous of that interface you've got going on, that thing is boss as frigg.
I can't wait to see the next step with Sapphire, your work help me and other people get inspired, i'm not from this area, i typically used to research on computer vision and autonomous vehicles, however some technologies used in rocket might be addapted to other things ...
toss a VIFLY Beacon on there to help locating lost items -- beeps/flashes/independently powered, recognizes crash so only actives when required.. also has light sensor to trigger light flashing when gets dark(er) outside, etc... plus tiny and cheap
I would add more thrust and larger tail control surfaces (area size). And maybe make a really light analog to the definitive plane with the exact same CG, to test dynamic pitch stability when hand launching. Every plane should be able to do stable unpowered glide, as long as it's light enough.
Just discovering your video (very nice), and something is telling me that the naming could be inspired by the French rocket program called "gemstones", I mean Lafayette System as a channel name, Diamond is the name for the rocket in this video, and the next rocket will be called Sapphire, will in the future one rocket be called Ruby or Emerald 😁 More seriously, thanks for sharing, that was a nice video.
Just a note on hatchet, make sure to consider the induced roll on the vehicle at lower speeds where the active fins have little control authority as the induced roll is pretty aggressive with EDFs. (also, reaction wheels are not a good solution to this given the gyroscopic precession when attitude changes)
Awesome stuff! Is it just me or does it look kinda like a miniature Standard missile, especially with the hot launch from a silo? How about implementing a dual pulse motor for the missi.... rocket?
Amazing work! Have you thought about putting an infrared/visible beacon on the avionics bay so you could see it when it lands (infrared with NV googles,-visible during nighttime, cheaper though)
17:27 oh I thought the Airframe from Diamond X is already made out of Composite. What is the white „Tube“ of Diamond X made of? You said in your assembly video of it „cardboard“ it thought it was a joke. Btw. you inspired me to build my own rocket. I’m currently at a very early stage. I started with (for me) the hardest part the programming and I’m Learning constantly.
About the tube, it looks like ones you'd buy for beginner model rocketry. It's "kraft paper" which is basically cardboard made using the "kraft process" which is a specific wood pulp manufacturing process.
Regarding the control fin vortex impingement on the booster fins. Would offsetting the booster fins by 45 degrees, i.e. so they are in between the rocket fins, reduce, or even better eliminate, the issue and allow active control during the booster stage of flight?
ive been flying rc planes for a while and lost way too much hadware over the years lol ive used buzzers years ago but for somthing withweight and size restriction like a rocket something like an apple air tag would work, it will only have a range of 30 meters or so. but it will help emsensly
Neat stuff! Are you flying at a site where control line model planes are flown? The aerial view appears to show 3 separate circles for control line planes. It looks like a great place to fly.
Time to add a beeper and a redundant SD storage card on the rocket stage, that or a secondary computer avionics only doing telemetry for data recording on the ground.
Do you not have a radio beacon with your avionics? ...just shove a cheap BLE tag in there. They're tiny, they weigh ~5g, cost ~$10, and you can detect them from ~30m away. (Ex: Minew E8) Put a BLE receiver on a quadcopter and you can find your stuff within a square mile area in just a few minutes.
I've seen some of your previous stuff and honestly I love it. I wish I could build rockets up here in Canada but its all illegal. Anyways I know you probably went over it before but whats your flight computer? is it just a pi? love the work btw
They regulate homemade rockets. Military technologies or possible ones and defensive technologies. The export of any of these which includes video guides and more.
Sir I have been watching this kind of stuff for more than 3 yrs now and finally I have joined a college of my interest and wanted to know what things I should know to make these kind of things , I know that I should know some things that I got to know from sources but what you think I should know !!! Pls guide
Would offsetting the booster fins from the actively controlled fins by 45 degrees help reduce the impact of vortex shedding and allow for active control during the boost phase as well?
There's a bunch of techniques for locating errant components, both passive and active. Kinda surprised you're not using any. Conards and chaotic airflow are easily solved. Do a little research for your next build. I've seen cheap store bought Drones used to check "conditions" before a launch. Others in "station keeping" throughout the flight. Faults and Failures carry just as much learning as do successes. I build and develop SCRAMJETs.
Question: What CAD software do you use? I'm interested in a similar type of building and I was wondering what you use. Also did you make your ground control software yourself?(It's really cool!)
big "we have SM-3 at home" energy and I genuinely love it
Home defense THAAD PLZ
I was going to say the same thing, big time SM-X--ER vibes
Pop that on your "Hatchet" and suddenly you have a ground-launched -cruise missile- air recon drone. This is awesome!
Ill take 10 reloadable launch cells, and however many drones can fit on a pallet, plus another pallet of missi....I mean, high altitude weather probes....
You just put yourself on a list somewhere 😂
@@Tyrone-Ward Thats a good point.....Ill take 20....
Quick idea. If you changed the detect from a short to a resistor you could have the flight computer detect the type of booster dependant on resistance detected
Resistance detection with a known resistor is preferred either way, because then you can tell if the connection is faulted
bro gotta be on several watchlists
if you ain't on several what are you doing with your life?
@sayorancode words to live by. 😤
that's an understatement, he is probably being followed by an fbi surveillance team and stalked by several recruiters for companies that build missile systems for governments.
Bro works for the government so…..
@@reedthorngag1810I can guarantee you he is not.
Great video. I don't do rockets but fly RC planes. One thing a few RC player do is have Reflective tape in stuff like batteries, receivers and servos. Makes it easier to find your lost items at time time with a huge flash light. I know it tight in there for extra stuff and the reflective tape will not last on the out side of the rocket. All so have to watching out for tape that will block singles. I'll have to check out your other videos. Keep up the great work.
Put a beeper in the rocket
Sorry you lost your avionics bay, data, and camera recording. I've spent a bit of time searching for planes and rockets in fields. Most recently, my Dad downed my 5" fpv quad in a lush soybean field. We had a bit of goggle dvr to provide general area, but what saved me was the auxiliary beeper. Setting the beeper up on the bench-top I thought it was crazy loud. In the real world under vegetation and wind it was difficult to hear, but we eventually found it. I have no doubt you will improve on your systems and redundancy. Thanks for the ride. I'll stay tuned in for the next one!
This is definitely worth considering, although with a rocket you have the added problems of a much larger potential search area and the possibility it buried itself in the ground since the parachute failed. Some sort of radio beacon might be the way, like we can use a directional antenna on FPV goggles if there’s still a weak video signal.
Good idea
tip from a skydiver, use a braided dacron/polyester line instead of your kevlar "shock cord" as kevlar has so little stretch that it will easily apply too short of a duration (and much higher peak) shock load causing it to break free... and instead of trying to attach it to the load in tension loop it around and under the entire bay so that it is held in compression and much less likely to fail...
also realize that even a human body from several thousand feet with a modest (10mph) cross wind will drift much more than you think, estimate the "terminal velocity" of you lost "bay" (much less than a rock, tennis ball, ping pong ball, small parachute) to determine the "freefall time and then apply that crosswind component to it
This is probably the most interesting model rocket projects with an active control system on youtube❤
6:57 good to see the new QC Engineer at work! :D
2nd Amendment should cover home defense Patriot systems if I want, This is such brilliant fun content.
I don't know about the legality of rocket motors in the Staates but the Patriot PAC 3 doesn't use an explosive warhead so, it might not even count as a weapon....
@ it’s actually not the explosive charge that would be the problem any sort of active guidance system that has a camera on the nose of the rocket is actually considered illegal or pretty heavily restricted from what I understand.
@@TackshooterOG laws are killjoys
@@TackshooterOGSo passive guidance is out of the question, but radar and other ways to guide are totally legal?
@ not a lawyer nor am going to speculate on what is legal
That's awesome! i'm excited to see Sapphire and Hatchet launch.
This month I've been planning an infared cruise missile project with a couple friends we intend to air drop from an rc plane. I'm very excited to see where Hatchet goes! Your guidance videos have been so helpful it's not even funny... Thank you
Bro, absolute respect. Im gonna build something way less techy, but your ideas are awesome and very inspiring. I love drones, rockets, and planes. The math, the planning, and meticulous maintenance/ assembly. All worth it in the end.
6:36 LOL THE CAT IS LOCKED IN
He is very concerned about the fins
“Hmm yes, The fins seem to be finning”
Might be time to find a cheap little tattler beacon you can program (like an esp based chip). A two way link, plus a simple burp you can use a basic foxhunting (radio direction finding) antenna to get a bearing on (like two wires 1/2 wavelength apart, when the source is in line with the support between the wires the signal is at its loudest, but there are other antenna types, ie yagi, cantenna, loop, etc). The two way link could provide denser data, but if for some reason you cant find it but still talk to it you can send it a command to 'sleep' until a certain time (like when you can get back out into the field to look for it) to maximize battery life (maybe even a little solar cell if you want to get really paranoid). Have a minimum power mode that will just burp every minute or some such, perhaps a mode that if it does not detect a signal of some sort switch to burps every hour or something, again to maximize battery life yet still have a predictable behavior in the event of data link loss, maybe auto sleep between night hours. Or hell, add an old point and shoot xenon flash circuit (should be pretty light, heh light), and go around dusk, send it a signal to flash every 30s, minute, whatever, and look for it with a drone camera...
[shrug] Just my 2 cents worth of brain droppings. Honestly, and I have about 20 years fabrication and machining experience under my flab, with all you've achieved so far Im a bit surprised the thing cant just walk home! LoL You've made some serious self taught/motivated/funded leaps and bounds not only in rocketry, but in autonomous control systems in general. If this stuff doesnt get you hired by raytheon or some other supplier of big boy toys, the world is truly unjust. Anyhoo, awesome work mate, keep on keeping on! 😎👍
Still jealous of that interface you've got going on, that thing is boss as frigg.
Your cats are just golden. Great project!
This is really impresive! This is the stuff that is highly regarded on your CV.
you are really my motivation to continue exploring in the messy rabbit hole that is rocket sience. gotta love it :)
I'm very excited to see where this project goes!!
Although, I still don't understand why you're making Sapphire red. 😂
Good to hear from a fellow Hoosier! Very cool work you are doing, as a soon-to-graduate Computer Engineer I am very impressed. Keep up the good work!
This is Incredibly cool! Well done! You are toatally on several watchlists! The government might also want to hire you!!
Awesome video! Excited for videos on the upcoming projects!
SHEESH, great work bro! Also, shout out to CF-PC filament.🚀
This has been my favorite video. The content and structure kept me engaged the whole video.
I can't wait to see the next step with Sapphire, your work help me and other people get inspired, i'm not from this area, i typically used to research on computer vision and autonomous vehicles, however some technologies used in rocket might be addapted to other things ...
Well done, really excellent work!
Man this is great. I feel inspired,motivated and a tad bit jelous at the same time. I am also determined to implement guidances
100% quality CAT control :-) Excelent profi project! Thanks.
I’m a beginner, but I have to say how impressed I am with what you’ve done using cardboard and plastic.
Hatchet is most definitely something I’ll be looking forward to
Wow! this graphics mod for KSP is phenominal.
This is definitely my favourite channel of the year!
Best rocket channel!
you dont know how long ive waited for this video
It might be a good idea to add your contact info directly into the future component prints.
toss a VIFLY Beacon on there to help locating lost items -- beeps/flashes/independently powered, recognizes crash so only actives when required.. also has light sensor to trigger light flashing when gets dark(er) outside, etc... plus tiny and cheap
I would add more thrust and larger tail control surfaces (area size). And maybe make a really light analog to the definitive plane with the exact same CG, to test dynamic pitch stability when hand launching. Every plane should be able to do stable unpowered glide, as long as it's light enough.
Just discovering your video (very nice), and something is telling me that the naming could be inspired by the French rocket program called "gemstones",
I mean Lafayette System as a channel name, Diamond is the name for the rocket in this video, and the next rocket will be called Sapphire, will in the future one rocket be called Ruby or Emerald 😁
More seriously, thanks for sharing, that was a nice video.
Amazing video as usual! And amazing cat
Just a note on hatchet, make sure to consider the induced roll on the vehicle at lower speeds where the active fins have little control authority as the induced roll is pretty aggressive with EDFs. (also, reaction wheels are not a good solution to this given the gyroscopic precession when attitude changes)
Great Job , this is amazing 🔥🔥
Such a pretty rocket
Awesome work!
Awesome stuff!
Is it just me or does it look kinda like a miniature Standard missile, especially with the hot launch from a silo?
How about implementing a dual pulse motor for the missi.... rocket?
"this one just pops off - oh no, I broke something else"
dude if i had a nickel
Nice work , keep going
Guided multistage rocket with a camera and tvc+canards. Where have I seen that?
Add an airtag on each ... it will help to find them
Amazing work! Have you thought about putting an infrared/visible beacon on the avionics bay so you could see it when it lands (infrared with NV googles,-visible during nighttime, cheaper though)
this is the dark side of engineering 😅 Please keep up the good work your vids are awesome!
To fix the control fin vortices hitting the booster fins, just rotate your booster 45 degrees. Then the vortices go between the booster fins.
Nice flight, too bad about the recovery. I'm really looking forward to hatchet and Sapphire!
Hey! This is really awesome. How exactly would one go about making the ignition and separation pyros?
17:27 oh I thought the Airframe from Diamond X is already made out of Composite.
What is the white „Tube“ of Diamond X made of? You said in your assembly video of it „cardboard“ it thought it was a joke.
Btw. you inspired me to build my own rocket. I’m currently at a very early stage. I started with (for me) the hardest part the programming and I’m Learning constantly.
Technically, cardboard is a composite of paper and glue!
@ ok thx
About the tube, it looks like ones you'd buy for beginner model rocketry. It's "kraft paper" which is basically cardboard made using the "kraft process" which is a specific wood pulp manufacturing process.
@@kevinl2482 thanks for the information!
Would be nice to see with more propellant mass. Estes rockets with a C motor can reach 2000 feet.
yeah we got youtubers building SM-2ERs now this is so cool
Isnt better to rotate the booster fin attach points 45° to not encounter the vortex of the main tubes's fins?
Why dont you use rollerons for roll control instead of fins?
Amazing!
For canard control, what if you try some more unusual wing/canard shape something like the Russian R-27?
super cool! what are the igniters you are using? (9:30)
Regarding the control fin vortex impingement on the booster fins. Would offsetting the booster fins by 45 degrees, i.e. so they are in between the rocket fins, reduce, or even better eliminate, the issue and allow active control during the booster stage of flight?
That can certainly help! The only challenge is finding a fin orientation that works for control and leaves space for the launch rail :)
ive been flying rc planes for a while and lost way too much hadware over the years lol
ive used buzzers years ago but for somthing withweight and size restriction like a rocket something like an apple air tag would work, it will only have a range of 30 meters or so. but it will help emsensly
3:55 aww kitty
idk anything about aerodyanamics or rockets,what's the fin like structures on the body of the rocket above the fins??
How did you print such nice fins? What kind of servos did you use? Can you please show more about fins controls? Plese
Might need to get a drone out there. Do a grid sweep then post the whole video, I bet people on here would love to comb through the video
You started with Diamond and now you're going on to Sapphire? I look forward to your eventual space shot, which I assume will be called Talc!
Maybe Stevie could track down the avionics for you!
Neat stuff!
Are you flying at a site where control line model planes are flown?
The aerial view appears to show 3 separate circles for control line planes. It looks like a great place to fly.
Would an Apple airtag work in future models to help recovery? Talking as someone without ANY experience in this stuff.
That's a decent shout, not for long distance l but once you get on close it'll be awesome for exact location
Time to add a beeper and a redundant SD storage card on the rocket stage, that or a secondary computer avionics only doing telemetry for data recording on the ground.
Do you not have a radio beacon with your avionics? ...just shove a cheap BLE tag in there.
They're tiny, they weigh ~5g, cost ~$10, and you can detect them from ~30m away. (Ex: Minew E8)
Put a BLE receiver on a quadcopter and you can find your stuff within a square mile area in just a few minutes.
I’M PLEAAAAASEEEE KEEP STEVIE AROUND FOR FUTURE VIDEOS HE’S THE BEST
Dude! So cool!
I've seen some of your previous stuff and honestly I love it. I wish I could build rockets up here in Canada but its all illegal. Anyways I know you probably went over it before but whats your flight computer? is it just a pi? love the work btw
whats the music at the begning? its epic sorta like a super hero finally realizing his potential against all odds
What does itar mean? I teach amateur rocketry?
International Traffic in Arms Regulations
They regulate homemade rockets. Military technologies or possible ones and defensive technologies. The export of any of these which includes video guides and more.
What is a controllable rocket if not a missile?
super great work man, will you implicate it to the silo launch system? like a Mk41?
3:54 ENGINEERING KITTY
I'm certain that watching this video series is gonna get me on a list..
This is cool, I'd love to work on a high performance flight computer
Sir I have been watching this kind of stuff for more than 3 yrs now and finally I have joined a college of my interest and wanted to know what things I should know to make these kind of things , I know that I should know some things that I got to know from sources but what you think I should know !!! Pls guide
Your videos are so cool. Do you have any advice on where to start to get into this hobby?
Would offsetting the booster fins from the actively controlled fins by 45 degrees help reduce the impact of vortex shedding and allow for active control during the boost phase as well?
I still love how it resembles a Standard missile
There's a bunch of techniques for locating errant components, both passive and active. Kinda surprised you're not using any.
Conards and chaotic airflow are easily solved. Do a little research for your next build.
I've seen cheap store bought Drones used to check "conditions" before a launch. Others in "station keeping" throughout the flight.
Faults and Failures carry just as much learning as do successes.
I build and develop SCRAMJETs.
what antenna do you use for telemetry?
I would love to see a hot staging on the new rocket! The best part is no part am I right?
what are you using for a propellant, Because if its an ammonium nitrate mix it dosent look like its oxidizing well from the Yellow smoke.
Im amazed that this is legal, at some point its just a homemade kinetic missile right? Its just one step away from being a not so kinetic missile
Why don't you use a gyro instead of that slightly wobbly roll program?
How much do it cost to build a basic rocket? Just fly n fall...
😢
You should ask bps for an ava or spark for sapphire
Time to get into CNC machining
Apple airtags to find rocket parts?
Let’s go Lafayette, do you live close to the school or go to it?
Question: What CAD software do you use? I'm interested in a similar type of building and I was wondering what you use. Also did you make your ground control software yourself?(It's really cool!)
hope you picked that glass fibre rocket part out of the field