NOW Is The Time To Buy A Modern Classic - Here's Why [BMW E30 Touring]
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- I think we all know that changes are coming, but none of us know exactly what impact this will have for us enthusiasts. Modern classics offer a remarkable compromise between driver engagement but sadly, their future too is uncertain.
In this film, we examine the reasons why now is actually the best time to buy one.
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I own bmw e30 touring, I'm 16, have this baby since 14, really proud of my self
That's awesome, a really great car to own!
The car community is a great place. It's awesome to be able to bond over one thing that shares so many basic principles and yet is so diverse.
Classics, modern or oldschool are amazing, they all tell a story, they all lived a live, and they all require varying level of attention with upkeep. I got an e30 touring aswell and i love the thing to death. Modern classics are great because they are often quite affordable to young enthusiasts who grew up with these cars. They're the perfect entry-drug for any future car-nut ...
Thank you for the great content, i hope your channel picks up even more! Love the car and the style of videos you make.
Yep you're absolutely right, there's definitely something special about these machines, which I'm sure is not easy for everyone to understand from the sidelines. Awesome that you have an E30 Touring too. Thanks very much for watching!
I completely agree for all the reasons you have given. I don’t have a modern classic but two of your examples really strike a cord - the E30 and the Mk2 Golf. I would absolutely love to have an E30 and keep it forever. Magnificent work on your cinematography, editing and engaging script - a pleasure to watch.
Thank you Gerard, appreciate your kind words. I can highly recommend the E30 - a true classic, timeless design, great to drive and appreciated by all. Its just a very fulfilling ownership experience all round. Stay tuned for more!
Agreed on the cinematography and editing!
@@FootToPedal because of your insight and encouragement - I bought a 1986 E30 sedan about two weeks ago. I'm older and thus it is more of a Sunday car as you point out. Really enjoying it - a very affordable modern classic. Thank you for the encouragement and the inspiring video!
@@gerardrahman7687 Awesome to hear Gerard, so glad you managed to get one. Doesn't matter how you use it, as long as you enjoy owning it. No problem at all, stay tuned!
Modern classic I need to acquire is an E30 Touring, that's how I came across your channel. Such a beautiful machine and I have only seen 2 Tourings out and about in the UK. Lucky enough to see an 325i vert and 320i near my old work. Just 4 in total.
I'd highly recommend one Reece, they're beautiful cars and such a joy to own. I personally think they've aged so well, very much a timeless design. The Tourings certainly have a rarity factor too. Thanks for watching 👍
I have a 318i Touring Design Edition - Daytona Violett. I’m never selling it, i’m almost done with the restoration, and i’m so happy to be the owner of it. There really aren’t many left…
Awesome to hear your passion, and great to hear you're restoring yours too. Agree, these are becoming pretty rare cars now, got to look after them!
I had a 2000 BMW 330Ci, had it for a year but sold it to get a 2015 Mercedes A class. While I absolutely loved the Mercedes, I ended up selling it in January for another 330ci (a 2004 M Sport this time). Everyone thinks I'm mad but I'm very happy with my decision. It genuinely is new enough to be reliable and a daily yet it's just about old enough to feel special without being too old. I'd actually like to go older to be honest but I love it, such a good car!
Awesome choice man, love the 330ci. I think a lot of people are starting to look at older stuff these days, you definitely get that blend of it being a bit special and just more interesting than the modern stuff. Often more engaging to drive too!
Personally don't really see myself buying anything brand new anymore.
Yet another fantastic video! As an owner of an E30 Limousine and an E30 convertible I thoroughly enjoy your E30 Touring videos. Both cars have been in daily use for many years, these days I try to protect them against the salt during the colder months. Greetings from Germany!
Thanks Jens, much appreciated! Awesome to hear you have 2 E30s yourself - yeah I try to protect mine from the salt too this time of year. Thanks for watching!
In addition to earlier comment: the car one time saved my life, on the A5 where Stuttgart is left and Basel right, doing almost 200 KMH in light snow, the car with caravan I was overtaking, didn't know or couldn't see that 2 lanes were going left and he pushed me almost into the barrier, so I went with 2 wheels over the non turmac bit with some fresh snow, that saved me a few hartbeats
I picked up a 1986 325es 5 speed coupe a little over a year ago, it had been sitting for years in a driveway. I've spent quite a bit of time and money bringing it back to life but it's so worth it. I drive two or three times a week. I enjoy your videos, keep it up!
Thanks for watching, Todd! And that's great hear, glad you saved it and brought it back on the road. Hope you continue to enjoy the car 👍
the quality of this video is amazing
Thanks Jan, appreciate it!
Great shots and nice edit as usual :) I agree on all points, altough i find most cars already after 2000 to be a little too complicated to maintain often.
I'm currently searching for your cars big brother, The E34 Touring
Keep your videos coming in the future :D
Thanks a lot man! Love the E34, especially the Touring, best of luck with the search!
E34 Touring is also high on my list!
My late grandfather had one of the late E30 Touring Lux (run-out) models. I loved it! Would love one one day.
Awesome to hear, yeah they're very cool cars!
Currently I have a 91 Eunos Roadster/ MX5 with the daft pop ups I daily, I'd love to own an E30 Touring for my next car as I grew up around BMW's & my parents both have one 👍
You won't regret buying one!
Nice video. I totally agree with you. Car community is very great and now after the years to the pandemic, with all the lockdowns and not seeing other people, you can now head to one of the many car meets and get to know other car enthusiasts. I am from Germany and I got myself an E30 prefacelift 320 in red two years ago. I drive it as often as possible and it gets me out of this modern world just in the moment I turn the key. Nice job with this video, keep it up mate.
Thanks Martin, glad you enjoy your E30 and are able to find car communities too! Totally agree, going for a drive is a great form of escapism, sometimes there's nothing better. Glad you enjoyed the video 👍
Hi there, in 1994 I had a 325ix Touring total full options except leather, bought in Germany for 30.000 DM, was in NL 1991 125.000 guilders !!!
Fabulous car, will tell more later via iMac, now on SE2016 too small for typing
Sounds like a lovely car, really like the iX models, you don't see them around much. Must have been great to have one of them back in the 90s!
In 2003 I bought another 325IX Touring in Green, Malachitegrün, now real FO so with leather ... Of the IX touring seem only 1687 examples produced, manual and automatic, so quite rare. That green one, which I found in Swiss, came on sale some 2 months ago, but it wasn't completely original anymore, otherwise I might have bought it again
Thanks for sharing your stories with your E30s! Sounds like you've had some great times in 325iXs and they've clearly served you well. Shame the green example wasn't completely original anymore, it is difficult to find ones that haven't been messed with these days. Thanks a lot for watching!
Great video, you are so right, they are so much fun, a real change from the everyday norm, I have a 1982 MK1 Golf GTI, a 1990 Renault 5 GT Turbo and a 1987 Porsche 911 3.2 Carrera. All drive totally differently but all are such great fun at legal speed limits 😀
Thanks Mark! Sounds like a great collection you have there, some really incredible cars! Glad you enjoyed the video and can also appreciate these modern classics
My dream car, in black color.. They cost like 10k+€ now... Enjoy it my friend :)
I'm sure you'll manage to get one soon! Yeah prices have gone a bit mad in recent times. Thanks!
Great video, fantastic car, well put philosophy, and I totally agree. I picked up a ‘93 Volvo 940 Turbo Estate last year just before nice examples started shooting up in price….tight, smooth, engaging to drive, and it has prompted a conversation or two at the pumps. 😉
A precision machine at a time when cars as precision machinery are starting to become a memory. Now it seems cars are just generic throw-away appliances like your refrigerator or iPad.
This era of “modern classics” may be the last generation of cars we can truly enjoy.
Thanks Tim, totally agree - the modern stuff seems to be more a consumable item, rather a shame. I bet your 940 Turbo is a really cool car, do like an old Volvo it must be said. Thanks a lot for watching!
I still enjoy my 2003 E39 530i Sport Champagne Edition II (M54 engine); it's done just over 39,000 miles and still love it.
Awesome, I bet that's a beautiful car and must be fantastic condition with that mileage. I hope you continue to enjoy it 👍
@@FootToPedal Thanks! And thanks for the great videos!
Plenty more to come :)
The milage suggests that you haven't enjoyed it that much yet?! 😂
@@y4nnickschmitt Hahaha great comment! It was in storage for many years by the previous owner so blame him :D
Love my touring.
They're awesome cars!
Loved the new video ollie,cant belive what a bargain you got with that touring,have you seen the last couple old colonial sold,Big money, these cars I believe our now out of the price of the normal person unless you pay 5 k for a under powered 318 that needs work,Ill keep on enjoying your Bella touring until I win the lottery 🙏
Thanks Brian, yes certainly won't see prices that low again I don't think!
As you say plenty have sold for very strong money in recent times, but to me it's all about the ownership and driving experience, its a true joy.
Thanks for watching!
I’ve owned my e36 318i for over 10 years and I do my own spannering on it inc new clutch and suspension so I engage with it that way,I have to say though I hate the way it drives compared to my 3.0l e85 z4,I live in the south of France though so I can really push the car and will probably return to the uk to buy an e60 5 series estate in the future then my garage will be complete,love the videos btw 👍
Thanks for watching and great to hear from a fellow E30 and Z4 owner!
@@FootToPedal E36😉
😂 sorry I misread your comment earlier! Still love the E36 👌
later that week a friend got stuck on the slope with a nissan patrol...with my 325ix on standard tyres I drove towards the Nissan (on the slope with the IX) and pulled it out !!! unfortunately no video of it
Awsome video mate, I just love e30's I subsctibed you, good luck with nice clasic cars
Thanks man, much appreciated! Stay tuned for more 👍
A cracking video pal, enjoyed whilst supping my morning cup of tea.
Now, I have a question.
Like yourself, I own an E86 but asking this with all bias removed and purely from the angle of this latest video of yours.
Would you consider the E86 to be a modern classic and if not quite at the right age just yet to be so, do you think it will be?
I did not buy my E86 as an investment or any such reason, I had always had a serious soft spot for them and the rare occasion I did see one on the road, well, it was an occasion. For me, the classic coupe lines, long bonnet housing a delicious straight 6 and indeed the interior, bespoke for the E86 (and E85 of course). So when an opportunity arose for me to get myself one as a weekend car if you like, I grabbed the chance.
Thanks very much, appreciate you watching!
A very good question indeed - I suppose we must start by defining what a modern classic is. Certainly subjective, but I generally take the view point that they are cars which have the reliability and relative performance of cars of the current time, but are usually much more analogue and simplistic and clearly of times gone by. For me, the E86 is pretty much at modern classic status. The oldest models are now 15 years old and they are certainly from an era of BMW we will never see again - the ideology was so different back then. A timeless design housing the signature BMW straight 6, I think you are being perfectly reasonable to call one a modern classic, I certainly would at this stage.
I think that status will only solidify as time goes on too. Stay tuned as there will be some E86 videos in this series, coming very soon!
2001 BMW E39 525i... had her for 8 years... been through a lot together...i have a new job paying me well and all i want to do is make her perfect rather than buy or lease a new car
Sounds great! Yeah I personally think these cars are worth investing in now, may as well keep them on the road 👍
I'm a life long car enthusiast but modern cars leave me cold. The wife has the modern daily but I've ended up with a low mileage e63 manual (never used to like the shape but big fan now), e46 325ti Compact with a m54b30 in it built primarily for the Nurburgring and as of this week a 1988 BMW e30 320i 4 door in beige. Came with bottletops but ive just purchased some mint 15" BBS from e30 Zone.
Yeah do like the E63 a lot these days, very cool cars indeed, particularly the M6! A great collection you have there - I've got 14" bottle tops for mine too, much prefer the 15" BBS alloys but will keep hold of the Bottle tops as they came with the car from new. Agree that the modern cars don't even come closer to the older stuff in terms of feel and engagement, speed really is not everything!
I've been considering a e63 M6, with a manual conversion (£6k), the potential future bills are putting me off. 630i is a nice drive 150kg lighter than the v8.
Quick question on the e30. I see you have Kumho tyres, how have you found them? I need to buy some tyres for mine
Yeah the S85 engine in those is certainly maintenance heavy so it could potentially get expensive.
The Kumho tyres have been great actually! Quite limited on choice with a 15" rim these days but they've served me well. Plenty of traction in the wet and dry, I don't push the car too hard though. I'd certainly recommend them!
Would you consider selling anytime soon…?!
P.s. the reverse bonnet mounted shot is the winner
I'd like to keep my E30 forever hopefully 😂
And thanks, I'm a big fan of that shot myself!
I just want my Prelude back... and maybe an NSX, 2nd gen MR2, 240sx, E30, E34, any old Datsun, Golf, and the list goes on and on, haha... I guess my E46 and NC Miata are alright too! edit: S2000...
Ahaha yeah thats a really great list of cars right there! This is why I love the modern classic realm, everywhere you look is just cool stuff I'd like to own 😂 As a youtube video once said, now is the time to buy a modern classic ahaha
@@FootToPedal Haha, kinda a cliche list, maybe, but for a reason... also a very incomplete list... Cheers!
Yep so many great options!
Totally agree, hopefully, we will not be banned and forced to buy technology that I believe at present is flawed in design and not 100% truthful on the environmental statistics when taking into account battery disposal, costs of replacement, etc that will force older electric cars to be scrapped prematurely in the future, just my thoughts on the current status of electric car design. I will stay with my 2006 Z4 2.5i SE for now :)
Yeah I certainly have concerns about the transparency of policies and actual data from the changes being made. Think there could be a few holes, particularly around the production of batteries but also the general infrastructure. We shall see what happens though as time goes on. Thanks for watching!
I am the proud owner of one of these beautiful E34 station wagon. Strangely though there is a dangerous from wheel wobble above 60-80Kmph. Has anyone here experience such an issue and what advice can you provide?
I love the E34 wagon! Regarding the wheel wobble, try getting your wheels rebalanced first. If that doesn't fix it you might want to try getting the suspension geometry realigned, best to get a specialist to look at it properly though
10 years ago was the time to buy a modern classic, especially e30s..
Yeah 10 years ago you'd have saved a lot of money
Most cars after 2010 are so soulless they might as well be electric.
Yeah I think things really went downhill after 2015, and now it's a sorry state for so-called "driver's cars". Hoping this series will allow everyone to appreciate some really cool modern classics. Thanks for watching
@@FootToPedal I'm just hoping that someone (maybe Toyota or Mazda) will release lightweight, RWD electric sports cars. As much I'll miss the sound and rev matching.
I'm sick of all these overweight, blobby things on the road these days.
No worries, thanks for the good videos. 👍
Yeah same here, that's about the only thing that would interest me. Apparently some small companies have been looking at manual gearboxes for electric vehicles, which sounds strange at first but it could genuinely work quite well.
Agreed though, when a new 3 series exceeds 1600kg in weight you start to realise how heavy and cumbersome things have become, not to mention the ever growing list of 2 ton EV's!
Plenty more to come so stay tuned 👍
Great video, and I'm a believer, I've had an e86 z4 coupe for the last couple of years for exactly the reasons you suggest. I just have one comment - how do you balance it with the undeniable facts around vehicle emissions and the environment, especially if you have one of these old gas guzzlers as a daily? I wrestle with this a lot, so interested to hear your take.
Thanks Ashley, a very relevant point you bring up there.
I have a relatively simple answer - annual mileage. The E30 for me is a bit more of a special occasion car. Throughout the summer I like to get it out as often as I can, but this time of year, due to the salt etc, it tends to stay tucked away until we got the odd day of nice weather. So that ultimately means the mileage I do annually is very small in comparison to most cars (maybe 1k to 2k). The E86 will probably do about 6k a year, so it's a similar story.
You've also got to consider the emissions of actually producing a car, which are usually enormous. So if I'm using a 33 year old BMW that has served 5 or 6 people in its life, even if its dirtier for the environment when being driven, I am not sending it to the scrap and initiating the emissions release for the production of a new one.
Believe it or not, there was a stat I covered in a video last year about the 2030 petrol/diesel ban, that the average classic car emits less emissions annually than a single return flight to the Mediterranean would. In other words, if you own an EV and went on holiday there once a year, you'd be doing more damage to the environment than I would in a year running a classic!
@@FootToPedal thanks for your reply, and I think that's a view many of us share. Perhaps the picture changes a bit of you were using the classic to do 20k miles a year, I'm sure there is a tipping point somewhere, where the full life cycle emissions start to be more favourable for the EV, even including those produced in manufacture. Time is running out though... The market for used EVs is growing. Let's hope the law continues to allow us to enjoy our old motors (in moderation).
Yeah absolutely, I think there is definitely a tipping point, but I'd imagine you'd have to do quite a bit of mileage to hit that.
I'm assuming most modern classic owners don't do crazy mileage so perhaps that helps the argument a bit.
But yeah times are changing fast, ideally anyone who wasn't interested in cars would buy EVs such that the impact from the small number of ICE cars on the road each year is negligible, then hopefully we'd be safe. We shall see I guess!
My best car the bmw m3 e30
O please try to mercedes w201 petrol model 1993