Destroying Flat Earth Clown
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A flat earther saying 'let's get back to the science' is the most ironic thing I've heard all week 🤣😂
“I don’t appeal to authority,,” says the Flerf, then proceeds to read verbatim a script he got from some other Flerf’s RUclips video.
I was about to say for someone who "is not a flat earther, just not sure about the shape" his arguments sound a lot (and by a lot I just want to leave some wiggle room because it's basically 100%) like every flat earther's talking points ever
Genetic fallacy. Appealing to a YT video isn't necessarily bad. Address the argument itself.
12:15 PP is factually incorrect. Geocentrism doesn't necessarily assume earth is a sphere. Ptolemy's particular Geocentric model does, but Geocentrism itself just means the earth is the center of the cosmos. There are many Geocentric models and many of them don't claim earth is a sphere.
@@lightbeforethetunnelTbf, there are no flat Earth models because none can explain observations like the rotation of the stars varying by latitude or predict and describe the occurrence of solar and lunar eclipses. They have doodles, but no models that even attempt to explain all the facts at once.
@@stormburn1 There are tons of FE models wtf are you talking about dude
The dunning Krueger is amazing with this guy
The 1st rule of Dunning-Kruger Club is you don't know you're in Dunning-Kruger Club.
This guy was the real life example of "trust me bro Ive watched videos about this".
The wise man is always in doubt and the fool is just soooo damn sure of himself. Because they're always In such need to feel smarter than others, they'll just deny any and all actual facts.
BINGO!! You’ve hit it perfectly!!! I can’t stand listening to them, as I get older I have no patience for pontificating morons! 😂😜👍🏼
Some of the biggest liars are morninc flat eatrthers.
Moronic
@@johntrip07
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AND religious pressups
I love how whenever he has no argument he just references convergence, reminds me of religion
It's not a coincidence that a bunch of Creationists are are also Flerfers (God describes the world as flat in the bible). There is a HUGE overlap with the two groups.
"I would disagree with that"....next day he is using GPS to navigate to his next FLERF society meeting.
The global FLERF society
This took two seconds "Ptolemy argued that the Earth was a sphere in the center of the universe, from the simple observation that half the stars were above the horizon and half were below the horizon at any time (stars on rotating stellar sphere)"
I'm 100% sure that his sources were blog posts by other flat earthers
Flerfs and maths don't mix. Even the most basic maths confuses them. Angles just blow their minds.
Even Peterson's diagram of a triangle is dismissed as a "cartoon".
I don't think these people are incapable of maths, they aren't stupid. It's just that their ideology is so broken that the cognitive dissonence must be overwhelming.
@@marasmusine You don't need to be stupid to not understand maths. There are smart people, who can't even read the clock, just because their brain is bad with numbers (dyscalculia).
Gotta lie to flerf.
There are two constants about flat earthers:
1) They will always be completely ignorant and lack even a high school level understanding of every single subject they discuss.
2) They will always be under a narcissistic delusion that they are the best educated expert on everything, ever.
Narcissism seems to accompany their idiocy. MC Toon made a video about it. 👍
@@guitarista67 Another thing that's common to them.
They will say something that is clearly and demonstrably false, and when you point out to them how trivial it is to prove that it's false, they will whine about how you're "not being respectful". And wax lyrical about how "respectful" they're being (even when they're not).
They prefer conjecture over evidence as long as the conjecture points in the direction that they are suppressed, woke, Neo-like characters in the “matrix”.
The weird thing is they not only think they are not sub-normal, they think they are smart. One would think that every day challenges would make the fact of the matter obvious for them.
The Flat-earther creed: we are stupid and we are committed to our stupidity.
"History is a lie so your evidence is false but let me tell you about the model of the earth people used in the past."... Really?!
I think it’s wild that these guys are on a cell phone talking to you and don’t realize that if the earth wasn’t round then none of the physics required to make that device function would make sense either
Ain't ya heard? Satellites are just floating on balloons inside the firmament. Ayup.
Airline pilot here. One can observe left to right curvature on a clear day at altitudes as low as 10,000 ft above sea level. All you need is a window, an unobstructed view to the horizon (clear air), and a straight edge of some sort. A smooth ride is also important, so you can line the straight edge up.
Once you do it's pretty easy to see the very slight amount of curve if you try to hold a line along the horizon with the straight edge. You can keep the corners on the horizon, but the middle will always bulge slightly from your straight edge.
Higher is obviously better, but I've definitely managed to detect the curve as low as 10,000 ft. The first time I saw it this way was from 35,000 ft.
I always make a point of demonstrating this to anyone I'm flying with when the seeing conditions are good enough.
Edit: spelling
I often wonder why it is repeated in so many of these discussions that you need to be above 120k feet or something like that to even see it. It was super obvious to me at 39k feet on a recent flight I was on. I took a few photos but forgot that I should take 3 -high middle low- just to compare barrel distortion. I'll remember next time. Anyway IF there was significant barrel distortion, where I shot the horizon on the lower 1/2 of the shot, it would have tended to straighten out the curve of the earth. (iPhone 13 regular, not wide angle) it was right there to see (and matched what I saw with my eyes)
Wait, you aren’t going to mention that you have to constantly “push the nose down” to follow Earth’s curvature and not fly off into space? 😆 kidding
@@AnthonyValcic I've heard the complaint about the windows bulge out when the airplane is pressurized, making the window like a fish eye lens!"
lol
The roads on the ground are typically pretty straight, and if you find a place where the roads go for 20 miles or so with engineered, surveyed precision, you can easily tell that the windows don't, in fact, "create" a curve.
Flerfy nonsense is so easy to debunk simply by looking out a window it's amazing to me that they continue to insist that "Just use your eyeballs" is some kind of valid argument.
@@Splattervision-qh1sd I wrote a whole post on this a while back. While the nose of the airplane does, in fact, "drop" to compensate for the curve, the rate is about one degree per 60 nautical miles. Not exactly a roller coaster.
The flerfs lost their shit because the math was so easy and quickly debunked their nonsense. I'm obviously a NASA shill. Or Satan. Not sure if they meant one or the other or both.
What's really happening is that the airplane is holding a pressure level (altitude) dynamically, and one of the dynamic forces is the slowly shifting center of gravity of the Earth. So as the direction down changes, the nose automatically compensates as the airplane holds altitude (by autopilot, awesome pilot, or simply trim).
Flerfs seem to think the Earth, by relative size, is really is about the size of a stress ball while airplanes are as big as whatever toy they've found, so roughly as big as Florida.
So sure I'll mention it... And then show flerfs how stupid easy it is to do some simple junior high level cal-ka-laytin.
Also, any level shows that the ocean is lower than the level line at any appreciable altitude!! That can ONLY be true on a globe earth.
Thank you for putting up with these dishonest cowards. When you put up those pictures towards the end I couldn't stop laughing.
Here’s the problem with flat earth “perspective”:
Parallel lines converge, but never cross.
The ocean (supposedly a flat plane according to flat earthers) is parallel to our sight line to whatever object we’re looking at straight ahead of us.
The water covers the object from the bottom up, showing that those supposedly parallel lines cross, meaning that one of those lines is not straight
This guy avoiding what a convergence rate is was the funniest thing I've seen in a long time.
Let's bring up someone and ignore the fact that they believed in a spherical earth and only focus on the geocentric part
9:53 He gets absolutely destroyed, then goes “so let’s just agree with my first point…”
I'd love to see some flat earther programmers make a SpaceEngine type simulation, and have them try and reconcile all our observations. In SpaceEngine you can put the camera on Earth, speed up time, and see the stars rotate in one direction in the north hemisphere, the other direction on the south hemisphere, and see where the sun is at different times of the year.
C'mon flat earthers, let's see your model!
There’s a physicist, Bruce Sherwood, who built a 3D computer model using FE claims. It’s hilarious, nothing works right; the sun changes angular size by over a factor of 2 throughout the day, the stars follow a weird, elliptical path, etc. If these clowns actually had to live in their bs world it would be an apocalyptic nightmare as sun and moon would have to break the sound barrier, sonic booms reverberating off their stupid dome 24/7 😂
Ahhhh yes, that’s Chris Vanam. He’s the wish version of Witsit.
Oh thought it was Derrick. Flerfs are really just bad copies of each others lmao
Ohh is that who this is? I thought he was familiar.
Dude got a PHD at RUclips flerf University.
It’s like he thinks if he’s polite you’d just let him get away with lying lmfao
"Ok...sooo....alright..."
*exhales*
"...Im WeLl AwArE oF pHoToSyNtHeSiS, r U?"
"Stop interrupting me" says the guy who continually interrupts and keeps babbling whenever the host attempts to respond to anything he says.
Strong agree-sovereign citizens are terrifying
Those morons can turn a simple traffic stop and ticket into a first degree felony.
@@Scrapla1…I’ve watched regular citizens do much worse.
The implication of this is crazy
When ever a flerfer ask if there are pictures of the globe, I always ask, is there pictures of the disc? How do you know it isn’t cubed and that’s why there’s an ice wall?
If I remember from my uni days, (Studying Geography with several Climatology modules) Chi Squared is the statistical analysis you do at the end. You're looking for an N95 certainty. That means that the chance that your null hypothesis is correct is 0.05%. We also used the Student's T test. It's not something you manually work out yourself. You enter all the data into a statistical prog like Minitab and let that do the calculations.
Essentially you're working out the strength of correlation of your data to the data you would expect to see if your null hypothesis was true.
It's one of the great things about science. You choose a version of the question that you try to prove right, and you fail to prove it.
Such as "There is no statistical relationship between human CO2 output and increase in Global temps"
You then run your experiments/ analysis and establish that the chance that statement is true is 0.05% (and that the results are statistically significant and could not have occurred by chance).
You have therefore opened up routes for further investigation because there IS a statistical relationship by failing to prove that there isn't.
Happy to be corrected on any of that - it is like 20 years since I graduated and I haven't been in the field for a long time.
Thank you for explaining to us. I think I’ve heard about that concept in the past, so I’ll vote that you’re spot on (doesn’t mean much but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ )
For me one of the simpler debunkings of a flat Earth is that every single pilot in the entire world would have to be "in on it", and not one of them has ever revealed it.
That's cute. He's doing basic algebra and you're doing trig. Aren't FLERFs just the cutest
He's one of these "elevation angles requite a flat earth" guys. So so bad.
Flerfer saying "I think both of us could be scientists" and Peterson responding "No I don't think either of us are smart enough to do that." reminds me of the quote "A wise man knows he knows nothing. A stupid man believes he knows everything."
Flerfs have never been able to explain why "atmospheric conditions" hide a portion of an object. They just say it and never explain
Strictly speaking, a "debate" between a normal person/global vs. a flatearther is really a science-based intervention because it's always a teaching session for flatearthers.
Sorry:"global" should be "glober".
"Hmm, I would disagree with that." And then proceeds to not explain why, typical flerfs. Just deny, deny, deny. That, and he keeps rambling on with a script in order to act like he's saying something intelligent.
Blah blah blah "converging" blah blah blah "atmospheric conditions" blah blah blah "don't trust "them""
4:26 this is a logical fallacy. you are creating a false dilemma by assuming that due to him not knowing about a chi-square analysis must mean he is unable to interpret any data, or as you related to it, being able to "tell people what to believe in."
If we’re being generous, he’s using it as a diagnostic.
The thing about flat earthers is that they're always wrong but never in doubt. Frankly I find them tedious and frequently pompous.
Reality is never good enough for some people.
As a VFX artist I can say with 100% certainty you cannot make that photo of the earth with paper mache
There's one thing that tells us that Earth is sphereoidal is hydrostatic equilibrium. It's why you cant stack sand.
Learned a new word today: crepe-secular. It's a tasty egg pancake with no religious beliefs.
Bro can just make cricket noises
The 5 Ds of this flerf:
-divert
-divert
-divert
-divert
-divert
what about "doh"? 😂
You have to establish with them that a circle is an infinite amount of single points. 26:30
YOU CAN'T WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH A LIAR !!
You don't need a PhD. What you need is the scientific approach to the world. First - you observe. Second - you try to find explanation for what you see. Third - you make sure your explanations are true by making more observations.
You don't say - "I don't know that shape Earth is, but it's not a sphere."
We HAVE gone to space, look up and watch all those satellites zoom past at night, does anyone believe not one of them has had a camera on board ?
People like this make me wonder if we deserve to survive as a species.
Wow. Even saying 'carbon dioxide' is virtue signalling these days.
its virtue signaling to say the sky is blue you woke science SJW LGBTQ+ activist
Forget the windmills. Just ask any flat earther if he can see Burj Khalifa in Dubai. UAE, Merdeka in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, Shanghai Tower in Shanghai, Abraj Al-Bait Clock Tower in Mecca, Ping an International Finance Centre in Shenzhenn Lotte World Towe in Seoul, One World Trade Center in New York City, and Guangzhou CTF Finance Center in Guangzhou from where he is standing right now. Those are the 8 tallest buildings in the world. If you were standing on a flat plane, you should be able to see ALL of them, no matter where you are. Either that, or you should be able to see the mouintains that are blocking your view of them. If you can't see all of these buildings, OR the mountains that are taller than them and block their view, then the only possible answer is that you're standing on a sphere.
I wonder why airplanes do not disappear from the bottom up as they fly further away.
Sure they do
You can’t talk to these people if they deny space travel
You're absolutely correct, these kinds of arguments usually come in a matched set, and many of the 'arguments' end up including or dovetailing with anti-semitism, whether overt or covert.
" i could show you 12 different references" sure thing kiddo. Ya didn't though did ya
I keep waiting for someone (like Planet) to push a Flerf to prove there’s a million person conspiracy that’s lasted 2500 years. If they can’t make it past that argument…..they’re done
Eratosthenes literally solved for the circumference of the earth lmao
As soon as he said "They believe" . I understood he believes every geologist across the world is lying
😂 hahaha that part near the end put me in tears.
This is how you can tell a flat earther doesn’t understand or care that they are wrong they always bring up perspective not realizing that perspective doesn’t matter cuz even if your not there the curve still will be. In a sense they don’t want to believe they don’t matter even though everything in their life points to the contrary so they have to find something to make themselves feel important or better than others
"Crupsucular rays"
They’re harbulary rays.
@@davidmarquart3912 parabolic rays
I actually feel sorry for the guy. Life must be incredibly frustrating when you believe all history and observed facts is a lie.
Cletus is a Macedonian name. The most famous one (Cletus the Black) was an Admiral in Alexander the Great's navy.
It’s the interpretation of those facts that somehow become confused in the face of logic
The crickets noise ay the end was the mic drop 😂
Ok, so walk towards the horizon, you never reach it. So, there's two assumptions that can be made. A) The earth is infinite (which would mean it's infinite in mass which causes all kinds of problems. Or B) it is a sphere
This is the kindest rudest guest I've ever seen
When you arrive by sea from Europe to New York, the first thing you will see is the top parts of the buildings.
This is because of earth shape, if earth was flat you would see the full city slowly fading out from far fog, not only the top parts emerging from below the horizon line.
It’s not the PHD it’s the method. PHD just means you’ve memorized a lot of facts. It doesn’t mean you have critical thinking skills.
The only dense medium I see here is this guy's skull.
Another example of someone who knows a lot of words, but not how to string them together in order to make sense.
I honestly don’t know how you can do this time and time again with idiots like this and maintain your sanity. I tip my hat to you good sir.
Did he just called the polar coordinate system on our planet a "cartesian" coordinate system? (19:23)
I would love to have a plate of this guy’s word salad. Seems like if I ate it, it would make me more ignorant of science, and they say ignorance is bliss.
Half an hour in the guest finally gives an argument for the ball not being a ball, namely the existence of crepuscular rays, which is completely explained by perspective, the same phenomenon that explains why railroad tracks appear to get narrower, but does not explain why things disappear when they go over a hill.
For not being a flat earther he sure likes to regurgitate their half-baked ideas.
God I hate this fake respectfulness.
"Its nonsence man" walks away
If plants always propagated to use all the available atmospheric carbon dioxide, why is there still atmospheric carbon dioxide?
How is it possible for the sun to throw horizontal shadows at dusk on a flat Earth? The sun would never fully set!
I love when they learn to pronounce new words. They use them all the time.
So glad i found this channel
The Flatard cannot accept the simple and obvious explanation for the pictures of the drilling rigs and the wind turbines.
The bottoms are obscured by something between us and them - what can it be? The sea: there's nothing else there.
The further away ones are obscured more, why? Because they are lower down from our point of view.
But the bottoms are all at sea level, so how can they be lower down ? Sea level curves with the surface of the globe.
We can get into more fine detail about the exact size and distance of the objects, and atmospheric refraction, and how differences in the density of the medium through which light is travelling from the object to our eyes (i.e. atmospheric distortion) can distort the image we see, but until they can grasp the absolute basics, there's no point in having that conversation.
the real nail in the coffin though, is we can predict exactly how much each turbine will be obscured and it will match reality. our models of the earth and the atmosphere are so fine tuned now, that they are devastatingly accurate. even walter bislin's earth curve calculator pretty much nails it every time.
As a canadian, jordan peterson gave these idiots i live nesr to much power to feel like they make points.
Did this guy call Ptolemy ptolygamy?
Yes, yes he did.
Just popping in to say anarchism and democracy are not mutually exclusive, in fact i believe they go hand in hand.
I admire your patience!
When you can't prove a point, seek to discredit the other.
so he did say it with air quotes
Someone who is only repeating what FE grifters have brainwashed him with, constantly stating that the person presenting mathematically and through diagrams why his claims are wrong is only repeating what "they" told him, is the greatest form of irony. DAF!!
This dude. I swear. Why are all these callers so condescending and so confident. Didn't he just say, "this is your channels" then he says, "impulse control dude. Let me talk" and his "let's just have an intellectual conversation". 🤦♀️ These ignorant people always think they are right. Every. Single. Time. Also, they don't like science but want to use it when it fits their idea. They don't like how "they" (REAL SCIENTISTS) can interject their "opinion" or "personal emotional yada yada" but when you use math (not personal), they disagree and say no. 🤦♀️🤷♀️ People like this dude don't want to learn anything and arguing with them is such a waste of time.
You said the second oil rig was "lower in elevation"......🤦♂️
dude how can you keep this calm?
The best part is, they're dumb enough to believe that someone else will just "believe" their nonsense answers. The convergence of the diffraction
of your perspective makes everything APPEAR like it would on a spherical earth BUT RLLY FLAT THO.
Saint Peterson out here with divine patience. i couldn't handle listening to Nathan Oakley spout nonsense, i don't know if i would even attempt to listen to someone parrot it when they don't understand what any of it means or even what Nathan thinks it means.
35:39 That was graphic, haha!
A Chi²-analysis tells you how probable it is that a theoretial claim is true. You calculate the value Chi² from the difference between what theory claims and what the experiment has measured. Then there is a scale, based on how many degrees of freedom your system has, that tells which value of Chi² is how probable. The result is the answer to the question: "How probable is it that the theory matches the experiment?"
(You don't actually need to do all of these calculations yourself. There are pre-calculated tables that you can find in textbooks or via Google. You simply look up where on the chart your type of physical system and your Chi²-value are and you read the probability on the chart.)
Refraction actually allows you to see more over the horizon, not less. Oofers flat earthers dont realize theyre the mark for a meme
Now the ending was so funny. Well done. Flerfs are full of BS.