There were also 1966 and '67, when respective leaders Jackie Stewart and Parnelli Jones had parts break on their cars when they seemed to be sure winners. Don't forget 1972, when Gary Bettenhausen led most of the race until suffering ignition trouble, and Jerry Grant looked like a possible winner until being forced to make a pit stop for a flat tire, and taking fuel from teammate Bobby Unser's tank, later resulting in Grant being bumped from 2nd to 12th place.
No joke. You can definitely tell this guy didn't do his homework. There were many that come to mind that were way more iconic that what was shown. Like you said the 67 Parnelli Jones is still one of the most memorable. The announcers were going crazy about the domination that turbine car was providing but then to have it fail so close to the end on a couple dollar part. Unreal. 😢
It’s also difficult to imagine the weight that awful butterfly effect had on JR. Just a huge cloud hanging over him outside of what ended up being his biggest chance at the 500 😢
Hildebrand crash is considered one of the biggest choke in all of sports history. The mistake is much more subtle than it looks. Hildebrand was entering the final turn with almost no fuel and came upon a slowing car into the final turn. He could have either braked and stayed behind the car through the turn, which would have taken forever, or else pass him on the outside, but off the racing line. He chose the latter, and on worn tyres, he understeered into the outside of the wall at the exit of turn 4. I also think there was possibly a 3rd option would have been to pass on the outside but at a reduced speed, if he had started earlier way before the final turn 4. But I am not 100% positive that it was possible.
Good stuff! Let’s go way back to 1912, the 2nd running of the 500: Ralph DePalma led the first 196 laps only to have engine failure. DePalma and his riding mechanic then proceeded to push the car another 2 laps! Joe Dawson walked away with the win.
Excellent picks. I'm also reminded of the 1989 finish, with Al Unser Jr. colliding with Emerson Fittipaldi with a couple laps left. Unser into the wall, Emmo continues on and wins under yellow.
I can’t decide between 1987 and 1992. Both Andrettis, both using engines in their first true production runs, and both head and shoulders above the rest of the field.
Off the top of my head, there was Scott Dixon getting busted for speeding on pit road a few years ago... He'd led the most laps, and finished something like 17th or 21st or something. You showed a picture at the end of Ralph DePalma and his riding mechanic pushing their car in 1912...They had led 196 laps, only to have something break at the end. And because the AAA at the time required drivers to complete all 200 laps, and wouldn't count DePalma's car being pushed, he was scored 11th...behind 10th place Ralph Mulford, who completed the 500 miles over two hours later. In 1952, Bill Vukovich dominated the race, only to have a steering part break with eight or nine laps to go. Troy Ruttman inherited the win. In 2004, they were trying to beat the weather (there were tornado warnings, but how do you evauate over 300,000 people?). Tony Kanaan was leading, but needed to stop or fuel...he finally did, and then the rain started and ended the race at 180 laps. Buddy Rice got the win. There's a lot more examples, but those are the first ones thought of.
The late 1960s introduced the Jet Turbine cars, and in two back to back races, lead the race by several laps, but failed to win because of seized wheel bearings near the end of the race.
2023: Marcus Ericsson, I've never seen a race stolen is such a way before. It was ridiculous, unsafe, and unprecedented, a travesty! "Finish under green at any cost" is an unreal expectation. Those of us who've been around a while have seen many yellow/checkered situations - it's part of the game. I'm only conflicted because I like Newgarden better. Also, love watching Andrettis lose the 500 so much!
I think the 2011 race is the biggest "what if" case. Wheldon wasn't racing in 2011 and it seemed the brilliance displayed earlier in his career was all but gone and any future in racing was on the broadcasting side. Had JR done literally anything but what he did, Wheldon would have had a 2nd place no one remembered. A 2nd place meaning getting offered a seat for Vegas would almost assuredly never have happened. The boost, money, media tour, sponsor interest, etc never would have happened for a boring 2nd place finish.
Michael Andretti revealed that Dan had signed with the 27 GoDaddy car the morning of the Vegas race. I’m sure with 3 straight 2nd place finishes in Panther and Herta cars, Andretti would’ve been impressed enough to still want him back
I would pay my life savings to see what Indycar would be had Kimball gotten out of JR’s way in 2011. How would Dan do in the Andretti 27 car that he signed with instead of Hinch? What would JR’s and Hinch’s careers be like instead. Would Bryan Herta have even partnered with Andretti without the 2011 win, that would end up giving Rossi his big break? So many unknown possibilities 💔
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There were also 1966 and '67, when respective leaders Jackie Stewart and Parnelli Jones had parts break on their cars when they seemed to be sure winners. Don't forget 1972, when Gary Bettenhausen led most of the race until suffering ignition trouble, and Jerry Grant looked like a possible winner until being forced to make a pit stop for a flat tire, and taking fuel from teammate Bobby Unser's tank, later resulting in Grant being bumped from 2nd to 12th place.
No joke. You can definitely tell this guy didn't do his homework. There were many that come to mind that were way more iconic that what was shown. Like you said the 67 Parnelli Jones is still one of the most memorable. The announcers were going crazy about the domination that turbine car was providing but then to have it fail so close to the end on a couple dollar part. Unreal. 😢
That 2011 race is much more brutal/bittersweet knowing what would happen to Dan Wheldon later that year in Las Vegas. 💔
It’s also difficult to imagine the weight that awful butterfly effect had on JR. Just a huge cloud hanging over him outside of what ended up being his biggest chance at the 500 😢
@@LessGo7921it should also be noted that JR also was injured pretty severely in that crash
@@reidcraig3739 Yup. Same for Will Power and Pippa Mann too I think
@@LessGo7921 I remember that Will and JR were in the hospital overnight. I forgot what happened to Pippa in the wreck.
Hildebrand crash is considered one of the biggest choke in all of sports history. The mistake is much more subtle than it looks. Hildebrand was entering the final turn with almost no fuel and came upon a slowing car into the final turn. He could have either braked and stayed behind the car through the turn, which would have taken forever, or else pass him on the outside, but off the racing line. He chose the latter, and on worn tyres, he understeered into the outside of the wall at the exit of turn 4. I also think there was possibly a 3rd option would have been to pass on the outside but at a reduced speed, if he had started earlier way before the final turn 4. But I am not 100% positive that it was possible.
Good stuff! Let’s go way back to 1912, the 2nd running of the 500: Ralph DePalma led the first 196 laps only to have engine failure. DePalma and his riding mechanic then proceeded to push the car another 2 laps! Joe Dawson walked away with the win.
Excellent picks. I'm also reminded of the 1989 finish, with Al Unser Jr. colliding with Emerson Fittipaldi with a couple laps left. Unser into the wall, Emmo continues on and wins under yellow.
Yep. I also could’ve talked about PT in 2002 but I would have just gone on a rant lol
I watched that race I still say Emo hit him
I can’t decide between 1987 and 1992. Both Andrettis, both using engines in their first true production runs, and both head and shoulders above the rest of the field.
Brutal, either one
@@JakeSimRacing And both resulting in an Unser victory, strangely enough.
I vote for 1987. I was there. Clearly the fastest car on the track until his ignition went south.
Hildebrand and then Michael Andretti in 92. Hildebrand especially, his career was never what it was supposed to be after that.
Off the top of my head, there was Scott Dixon getting busted for speeding on pit road a few years ago... He'd led the most laps, and finished something like 17th or 21st or something.
You showed a picture at the end of Ralph DePalma and his riding mechanic pushing their car in 1912...They had led 196 laps, only to have something break at the end. And because the AAA at the time required drivers to complete all 200 laps, and wouldn't count DePalma's car being pushed, he was scored 11th...behind 10th place Ralph Mulford, who completed the 500 miles over two hours later.
In 1952, Bill Vukovich dominated the race, only to have a steering part break with eight or nine laps to go. Troy Ruttman inherited the win.
In 2004, they were trying to beat the weather (there were tornado warnings, but how do you evauate over 300,000 people?). Tony Kanaan was leading, but needed to stop or fuel...he finally did, and then the rain started and ended the race at 180 laps. Buddy Rice got the win.
There's a lot more examples, but those are the first ones thought of.
Ralph DePalma in 1912 must have been brutal
Emmo crushed the wall in 1994. He had the race locked up, but then handed the win the Little Al.
The late 1960s introduced the Jet Turbine cars, and in two back to back races, lead the race by several laps, but failed to win because of seized wheel bearings near the end of the race.
7:55 Pretty wild they still use that S-10, wonder what year and how many miles it has on it, and its all at the speedway.
2023: Marcus Ericsson, I've never seen a race stolen is such a way before. It was ridiculous, unsafe, and unprecedented, a travesty! "Finish under green at any cost" is an unreal expectation. Those of us who've been around a while have seen many yellow/checkered situations - it's part of the game. I'm only conflicted because I like Newgarden better. Also, love watching Andrettis lose the 500 so much!
True. I did try to stick to car/pit failures or human error. But officiating has also determined its fair share
I think about the 2006 race. That would've been a very popular win.
I think the 2011 race is the biggest "what if" case. Wheldon wasn't racing in 2011 and it seemed the brilliance displayed earlier in his career was all but gone and any future in racing was on the broadcasting side. Had JR done literally anything but what he did, Wheldon would have had a 2nd place no one remembered. A 2nd place meaning getting offered a seat for Vegas would almost assuredly never have happened. The boost, money, media tour, sponsor interest, etc never would have happened for a boring 2nd place finish.
Correct analysis.
Michael Andretti revealed that Dan had signed with the 27 GoDaddy car the morning of the Vegas race. I’m sure with 3 straight 2nd place finishes in Panther and Herta cars, Andretti would’ve been impressed enough to still want him back
I would pay my life savings to see what Indycar would be had Kimball gotten out of JR’s way in 2011. How would Dan do in the Andretti 27 car that he signed with instead of Hinch? What would JR’s and Hinch’s careers be like instead. Would Bryan Herta have even partnered with Andretti without the 2011 win, that would end up giving Rossi his big break?
So many unknown possibilities 💔
I always say Indy is cruel in the most painful ways
Foyt and Andretti are the only 2 drivers to win Indy and the Daytona 500
Have the last name “Andretti”.
*N O T H I N G* tops Marco Andretti's loss.