I like the organization with the shapes . Makes it a lot easier also you can take a picture and check off each shape as you drill the holes and glue the fibers
I’m currently working on mine & am using 1/16th inch drill bit & it sounds like I’ll be alright from others I’ve talked to when it comes to glueing time. Mines got 1,100 stars along with 10 shooting stars or basically another 120 strands/stars. 1,220 strands in all basically 😅
That’s going to be awesome! I don’t envy you having to do that many lol. Most I’ve done was 700 or 750 on a charger. Haven’t done the shooting star ones yet but definitely want to.
@@FRS2K I hear ya ha ha! I got told with that many stars, plan everything out before hand if you’re doing designs which I’ve been working plotting stuff out the past few days now lol. Just to make sure it looks good
It’s all on how clean your cuts are when you clip all the excess. If you cut at an angle, they’ll be sharp and you’ll probably feel them. I use a nail clipper and push a little bit into the foam and it’s smooth unless you push against the headliner and rub. Depends on your headliner too. Some just have fabric and others have foam backed fabric. That will make a difference too. If you end up doing one of these you’ll find a good process on trimming them. Any that you still feel, just go back and clip a tiny bit more.
I have a Gr86. I’m wondering where you installed the light projector. Some say they do it above the driver/passenger head mirror but those are for the smaller light projectors. My size is relatively the same as yours in the video and it’s obviously too big to go there, where did you put yours?
I’ve done 3 and haven’t had any issue with them pulling out. I give each one a gentle pull before cutting to make sure I touch up any that are still loose. Cutting them after putting the headliner back in would be another way of making sure everything stays where you want it.
Yeah it is very tedious. Simple but does require a few hours and then you have the removal and install of the headliner with a mess of fiber optics lol. So worth it in the end though!
Sorry for such a late reply! All of the sudden the video stated getting some traction and had no idea lol. If you are still wondering, anytime I have done this, I have waited a minimum of 24 hours.
This is the one I used in the video a.co/d/20tK5xR I’ve also used the azimom brand. Pretty sure they are exactly the same manufacturer. We’ve had it in our FRS for a few years now with no issues. The light motor is a little bulky but that is the only gripe I have with it. Spend the extra couple bucks and get one that has the twinkle effect. So worth it!
Is there any way we can talk privately I want to start a small business nd I have no competition in my town “big facts” I would like some advice nd I have read your response to comments I will spend that extra for the good fabric. Also needing help with some important factors for where I live nd how to charge
I’m concerned about the adapter won’t it be an eye sore and a literal battery pack heating up somewhere what are the options on keeping it cool and that setup beside the lights.
No offense but I dont think your headliner is going to last long. You didnt spray nearly as much adhesive as you should've. Keep that car out of the sun
Non taken, it’s good advice. We live in northern mn so it’s not as big of an issue even with the humidity here. 4 years in our FRS and still holding strong.
Depends on how baller you want to go. If you want kind of a generic suede with a foam backing go to Amazon otherwise what I would recommend for the best quality and ease of install would be a foam back suede that specifically states that it’s stretchable. A lot of the material out there does not have any elasticity which makes it difficult when doing a headliner with a lot of curves. The headliner that we used in the FRS is super nice and stretchy and we got it off of Amazon. It was around $150 for enough material to do the headliner with about a foot of excess material.
This one came with creases but once the material was laid flat, they were pretty much not noticeable. That’s where spending more money also helps. They put more time into packaging. The one for the FRS was rolled up and in a big tube. This one was folded up and in a shipping bag. Here’s a website that sells some and it’s not that expensive. headlinermagic.net/products/wholesale-stretch-suede-foam-backed-headliner
This is in a friends car and it’s still working great. I also installed the exact same one in our FRS a couple years ago and it has worked flawlessly since then. No guarantee that every single kit will be the same but from my experience, I have no complaints.
Hey man, so I’m tempting in getting these starlights for my headliner but I have some concerns about it, so I have a Ford Taurus SEL wagon type, so Idk how much I would really need for the whole back to front of my car, as yk a wagon is long, second concern is that my headliner isn’t black and I don’t want to change if senes it’s the same color as the interior but is it going to look worse or better with a cream color. Thankssssss!!!! If u can answer these appr it 👏🏼
Sorry for the late response! More is always better when it comes to these. It’s more of a pain to manage all the little fiber optic cables but you’ll be happy you did in the end. It’s going to look better with a black background but I don’t think it would look bad with the cream interior. If you’re already going to have the headliner out and spending the time to do it, if it were me I would just buy some cheap black or dark grey suede and redo the headliner while it’s out. If you do, make sure to get fabric that has a foam backing and is stretchy. If it doesn’t stretch it can be a b!+
We run or own vinyl wrap shop and I have done them for anywhere from $500-$800 for a starlight kit depending on the vehicle and how many lights they want. The suede headliner was extra since this was for a 1st gen talon and all that was left was old foam. I’m not sure how much other shops charge but I would assume they are a bit more expensive since we try to offer our services at a more affordable/attainable price point. If you are wanting to DIY something like this here are the basics of what you’ll need. Basic tools to remove headliner Starlight kit Hot glue gun/glue sticks Drill/drill bit Pen/marker You can diy it for about $200 and give or take 8 hours of your time.
It’s just a hard squeegee for vinyl wrapping. Too hard for that but great for this purpose lol. The foam was very old and brittle. If you have foam that is harder to remove, I’d use a wire brush or wire wheel on a drill.
I don’t 100% remember but it was the smallest one I had. You don’t want to go much larger than the cables because it’ll be easier for them to pull out as you’re working. I would test it out on an edge of the headliner that is tucked behind trim to see if you have a good size.
Hey man I love how this looks and I’m planning on doing this to my own 2007 Pontiac Grand Prix but I have a sun roof, any suggestions on how I can go about doing it with a sun roof
Same process. The difference will be before you hot glue or however you decide to secure the strands. Make sure you have enough length on the ones around the sunroof cutout to have them go around it. Then I would use tape to hold them in place and more flat to the headliner. Start at the front of the headliner and work your way back and segregate a handful of strands as you go otherwise it can become a tangled mess by the time you are done. Let me know if you have questions as you go and I’ll help you out as best I can. Good luck!
probably not because it goes through the headliner and convertibles just have the convertible cover not a headliner but im sure theres some way you can get this on one
I like the organization with the shapes . Makes it a lot easier also you can take a picture and check off each shape as you drill the holes and glue the fibers
Do you all think the black star roof will go good with a white interior?
yes
How many did you go with
375. It was for an eagle talon so a pretty small headliner. I think we did 500 in our FRS and 700 in a friends Charger. More is better in my opinion.
That looks like so much work
It’s literally just some glue 😂
I’ve heard people say it’s an all day kind of project like 8 hrs
@@Zoxxiicyour a idiot. took me 6 hrs on my charger with 2 people.
@@lowccperformance4059bro it took me over a week patience is key yet again I had to paint everything black too
Great things take time
What brand starlight kit do you guys use?
The one in video is amazo
I’m currently working on mine & am using 1/16th inch drill bit & it sounds like I’ll be alright from others I’ve talked to when it comes to glueing time. Mines got 1,100 stars along with 10 shooting stars or basically another 120 strands/stars. 1,220 strands in all basically 😅
That’s going to be awesome! I don’t envy you having to do that many lol. Most I’ve done was 700 or 750 on a charger. Haven’t done the shooting star ones yet but definitely want to.
@@FRS2K I hear ya ha ha! I got told with that many stars, plan everything out before hand if you’re doing designs which I’ve been working plotting stuff out the past few days now lol. Just to make sure it looks good
Hey where can I go to get it on my car? Price and address please
Where do you mount the projector and run the other end of the fibers?
If you can send me a picture of this device box
Which star kit is this?
It's so pretty!!
Are these rough to the touch when installed? Mean like if you were to stretch in the car and move your hand along the liner.
It’s all on how clean your cuts are when you clip all the excess. If you cut at an angle, they’ll be sharp and you’ll probably feel them. I use a nail clipper and push a little bit into the foam and it’s smooth unless you push against the headliner and rub. Depends on your headliner too. Some just have fabric and others have foam backed fabric. That will make a difference too. If you end up doing one of these you’ll find a good process on trimming them. Any that you still feel, just go back and clip a tiny bit more.
I have a Gr86. I’m wondering where you installed the light projector. Some say they do it above the driver/passenger head mirror but those are for the smaller light projectors. My size is relatively the same as yours in the video and it’s obviously too big to go there, where did you put yours?
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I never see anyone use glue to hold them in did the fall out when installing id cut after its in
I’ve done 3 and haven’t had any issue with them pulling out. I give each one a gentle pull before cutting to make sure I touch up any that are still loose. Cutting them after putting the headliner back in would be another way of making sure everything stays where you want it.
Seems like such a time consuming project though. Awsome results
Yeah it is very tedious. Simple but does require a few hours and then you have the removal and install of the headliner with a mess of fiber optics lol. So worth it in the end though!
Songggggg yo
With what power u connect inside the car ? Or you make new loom direct from battery?
How long did you wait for the new Headliner to dry before installing the star lights
Sorry for such a late reply! All of the sudden the video stated getting some traction and had no idea lol. If you are still wondering, anytime I have done this, I have waited a minimum of 24 hours.
Do u have a link ?
What’s the brand/ actual product of that one I’ve seen a lot of crap ones but that looks hella good
This is the one I used in the video a.co/d/20tK5xR
I’ve also used the azimom brand. Pretty sure they are exactly the same manufacturer. We’ve had it in our FRS for a few years now with no issues. The light motor is a little bulky but that is the only gripe I have with it. Spend the extra couple bucks and get one that has the twinkle effect. So worth it!
Could you post the Product link please? :)
Can you link me the headliner fabric you used thanks
Is there any way we can talk privately I want to start a small business nd I have no competition in my town “big facts” I would like some advice nd I have read your response to comments I will spend that extra for the good fabric. Also needing help with some important factors for where I live nd how to charge
I’m concerned about the adapter won’t it be an eye sore and a literal battery pack heating up somewhere what are the options on keeping it cool and that setup beside the lights.
Can you drop the products you used ?
Where did you put the central unit? it will heat up and I want to find a suitable spot...
No offense but I dont think your headliner is going to last long. You didnt spray nearly as much adhesive as you should've. Keep that car out of the sun
Non taken, it’s good advice. We live in northern mn so it’s not as big of an issue even with the humidity here. 4 years in our FRS and still holding strong.
Now how do you hide the access wire and how does it power in the car, where does it wire to?
Where would u recommend stretchy headliner
Now you see why this cost about 1000 in labor
Does it burn your car battery up?
Looking to do my headliner as well. Where do you recommend to get the material from??
Depends on how baller you want to go. If you want kind of a generic suede with a foam backing go to Amazon otherwise what I would recommend for the best quality and ease of install would be a foam back suede that specifically states that it’s stretchable. A lot of the material out there does not have any elasticity which makes it difficult when doing a headliner with a lot of curves. The headliner that we used in the FRS is super nice and stretchy and we got it off of Amazon. It was around $150 for enough material to do the headliner with about a foot of excess material.
@@FRS2K I was hesitant from buying off of Amazon because the pictures I saw they all came folded and creased. Wasn't that an issue for you guys?
This one came with creases but once the material was laid flat, they were pretty much not noticeable. That’s where spending more money also helps. They put more time into packaging. The one for the FRS was rolled up and in a big tube. This one was folded up and in a shipping bag.
Here’s a website that sells some and it’s not that expensive. headlinermagic.net/products/wholesale-stretch-suede-foam-backed-headliner
How much it will cost if someone does it for me? Fir eqb mercedes?
How’s it holding up? Any problems you’ve noticed?
This is in a friends car and it’s still working great. I also installed the exact same one in our FRS a couple years ago and it has worked flawlessly since then. No guarantee that every single kit will be the same but from my experience, I have no complaints.
Hey man, so I’m tempting in getting these starlights for my headliner but I have some concerns about it, so I have a Ford Taurus SEL wagon type, so Idk how much I would really need for the whole back to front of my car, as yk a wagon is long, second concern is that my headliner isn’t black and I don’t want to change if senes it’s the same color as the interior but is it going to look worse or better with a cream color. Thankssssss!!!! If u can answer these appr it 👏🏼
Sorry for the late response! More is always better when it comes to these. It’s more of a pain to manage all the little fiber optic cables but you’ll be happy you did in the end. It’s going to look better with a black background but I don’t think it would look bad with the cream interior. If you’re already going to have the headliner out and spending the time to do it, if it were me I would just buy some cheap black or dark grey suede and redo the headliner while it’s out. If you do, make sure to get fabric that has a foam backing and is stretchy. If it doesn’t stretch it can be a b!+
What did you use to remove the old foam material?
It’s just the residue from the factory glue
@@kidd_cris598hes wondering what they used to take it off
Normal bristle brush
How much does this work usually cost someone?
We run or own vinyl wrap shop and I have done them for anywhere from $500-$800 for a starlight kit depending on the vehicle and how many lights they want. The suede headliner was extra since this was for a 1st gen talon and all that was left was old foam. I’m not sure how much other shops charge but I would assume they are a bit more expensive since we try to offer our services at a more affordable/attainable price point. If you are wanting to DIY something like this here are the basics of what you’ll need.
Basic tools to remove headliner
Starlight kit
Hot glue gun/glue sticks
Drill/drill bit
Pen/marker
You can diy it for about $200 and give or take 8 hours of your time.
Mine doesn’t like to change colours. It’s stuck on purple
Do any of the other functions work? Could be a bad battery in the remote.
Well done!
Thanks man!
I'll drive to you if you do others headliner??? How much?
We def offer that service. Hit us up on our website www.tnkwraps.com
What kit did you use?
What drill did you use for the holes? Milwaukee?
any drill will go through a headliner bud.
How much lights were they
Where did yoi get the scraping tool you used in the video its orange?
It’s just a hard squeegee for vinyl wrapping. Too hard for that but great for this purpose lol. The foam was very old and brittle. If you have foam that is harder to remove, I’d use a wire brush or wire wheel on a drill.
@FRS2K awesome bro thank you for the info and the help,great video bu the way!
What size drill bit did you use?
I don’t 100% remember but it was the smallest one I had. You don’t want to go much larger than the cables because it’ll be easier for them to pull out as you’re working. I would test it out on an edge of the headliner that is tucked behind trim to see if you have a good size.
could you put the link for them ?
I’ve done 3 starlight headliners and I’ve used the Azimom brand in each with no issues and a few years of use so far. a.co/d/ebvXSZn
Hey man I love how this looks and I’m planning on doing this to my own 2007 Pontiac Grand Prix but I have a sun roof, any suggestions on how I can go about doing it with a sun roof
Same process. The difference will be before you hot glue or however you decide to secure the strands. Make sure you have enough length on the ones around the sunroof cutout to have them go around it. Then I would use tape to hold them in place and more flat to the headliner. Start at the front of the headliner and work your way back and segregate a handful of strands as you go otherwise it can become a tangled mess by the time you are done. Let me know if you have questions as you go and I’ll help you out as best I can. Good luck!
Can this be installed in a convertible rooftop?
probably not because it goes through the headliner and convertibles just have the convertible cover not a headliner but im sure theres some way you can get this on one