@hhhk20 i see your point bro, but without actually knowing devon personally can you really make a definitive judgement of his parenting? furthermore, even if you did know him personally it's difficult to accurately judge his family's household dynamics and how he and his family work through their issues. so, maybe you're right, but maybe you're wrong but i don't believe you have sufficient evidence/insight to truly draw a conclusion on how devon treats/feels about his children and it's a little weird that you seem so passionate about it in the first place.
@hhhk20 Ahh, man, thanks for writing this. Shows you're a kind guy. I grew up with emotionally absent and abusive parents, so I can relate to this. Your children should take priority over all else in life.
@@Mo-kl4fb legal to get TRT where Devon lives but not legal to give him several substances in large amounts plus prescription-only drugs to counter act the side effects.
A guy who wins at 165 loses to himself at 195, but the 165 guy who wins titles doesn’t win titles at 195. Just like Devon said. The rarest guys are outliers. They are almost unicorns. Oleg isn’t gifted, he’s a mutant.
This was an amazing discussion - everyone seemed super engaged (even RVJ for a change :D). I wouldn't mind longer talks either when it flows like that, the ending felt like a cliffhanger.
Rvj is the most intellectual out of the other 2 dimwits... todds bland persona is unbearable and Devon’s just constantly trying to out alpha every guy he comes across it’s so painful.. he tries so hard.
Props to WAL for putting out content like this! Love watching the power these guys have but it's cool to know how much knowledge they have to back it up... True experts in their field!
John is a freak. We can't use that as proof for the average guy not needing to be as big as their weight class and frame allows. Size matters but isn't everything is the obvious answer.
It’s obvious he’s an outlier lol he has freak tendon strength, just cause he can do it doesn’t mean every man can. Majority are gonna have to get bigger
Thanks Neil, That was a fantastic discussion and I think Rob, Mike and Devon all made excellent points. We have weight divisions for a reason, as was pointed out. The exception, of course, is Super Heavy when the sky's the limit. Weight is no use, as Mike pointed out, if its simply blubber. There's a sweet spot for every athlete. You can get bigger but lose endurance or dynamism. We also have to admit that some athletes are doing things to their bodies, in order to get bigger, that is detrimental to their health.
@Andre McGoo not on the camera for my perspective...but it seems like he's nervous n he's a lil of an introvert guy....he has problem having eye contact with both todd n devon
It's honestly amazing, these dudes are huge, strong, in great shape and they still look like human beings. Meanwhile, over in eastern Europe, you've got Levan and Denis looking like Seth McFarlane drawings due to all the fucking HGH and steroids.
I agree with them. Size matters up to the point where the competition is too great or until your frame/geometry/style can't effectively use more mass. I think this translates to wrestling too.
Most of the North American guys won’t even compare to the europeans... but then again under WAL reffing anything can happen I mean just look at how they butchered Ermes gasparini..
Should be interesting. Not a domination from either side but we’ll get to see good competitive matches. My money on Europe edging just slightly with a little better technique
@FirstEastern Perspective you're stupid, neither of those are as strong as Denis and chaffe for example has pinned denis, he'd beat almost everyone in the top 8, so would michael todd, so would devon, it's only vitaly and especially levan that are looking unstoppable.
Kev Dawg, Devon showed us that he has a King’s Move, too. If the refs are unbiased and call the elbow fouls AND insist that the forearm/triceps are NOT the elbow (which they are not), Todd has almost ZERO chance of beating Devon. The problem is that too many refs ignore the elbow fouls and they let the elbow leave the pad and consider the forearm to be okay.
Been arm wrestling in japan for the last 2 years and I gotta say it’s hard telling just how strong people are here until you grip up with them. At my size I have to pull as tactical as possible because there’s middle and heavyweights who are just plain stronger than me and the only thing I can do is try to stop the match and look for weak points. Size definitely helps mechanically but as far as muscle mass goes I no longer use it as a way of judging how strong they are. Big difference between show muscle and go muscle.
He looks like he just doesn’t care to be there. If he was nervous or panicking then he’d probably be sitting up straight, fake smiling, making much more of an effort.
Not sure if that's actually relevant.. I'm just saying the guys ware having something more to say, the discussion was interesting, and Neil just pulled the plug like in the middle of it. Also I rather not judge someone that I don't know personally, peace 💪
hhhk20 I agree with you man. That home must seriously be lacking a father figure.. too much time with mummy isn’t good. And yes about the house in every video the place looks like an actual dump lol why can’t white people keep a clean house?
This used to be a respectful community... Which only means arm wrestlers and organisations have done amazing job of popularising the sport last year or two, so that even lifeless individuals like you are here boosting the comment section with crap. Nice
@hhhk20 here we have someone who is so terribly jealous of Devon's life that he cant help but unjustly hate on him everywhere. Seriously dude, I see you everywhere. You're obsessed with him. Get a life.
Devon just answered the question at 4:53 If there was no weight division, of course size would matter so that's why they're in place. So yes, size does matter when transitioning up classes.
@@mikesharon2177 lol, bigger denis than devon fought 😂?? the size of denis that devon fought of is just a little bit smaller than his peak back then. You can see denis true peak when he is fighting against late andrey pushkar, dave chaffee and arsen liliev . The size that john beat is smaller version when denis still inexperienced but still stronger than other top armwrestler that time and john have the same age like devon that time , around 40+ . I don't think john has passed his prime yet, it's true he getting older that time but he become so experience, technical and heavier that time. He prepared so well because of his thought to face voevoda again, but unfortunately voevoda already retired.
Without question, Devon is the brightest arm wrestler I've ever seen. The only person that comes close to him is Engin. He is a walking encyclopedia. I could listen to him talk strategy and analysis all day
Good discussion. Some of these professionals are so big that they can’t get their shoulders into position to take advantage of their strength and size. From some of the matches I’ve watched.
bigger frames can accomodate more muscle. a 5'6 guy at 200 will be sluggish. a 5'11 guy is gonna pe right in his comfort zone though. Bigger frames sacrafice less cardio with weight gain generally speaking.
Mike Todd personalizes his comments on ‘everything almost’. Devons deduces what he observes without having to almost ever include himself in relating to it. Just a difference I noticed
Yeah two different focuses that collide: Todd: "I want to be the best arm wrestler I can be". Devon: "I want to be the best arm wrestler that there can be". its "I'm just going to keep going higher and higher while looking up" vs "I'm looking up to see the maximum point because I'm not stopping until that spot". Kinda two sides of the same coin.
I think RVJ is right on, it's very case sensitive when it comes to size. Though generally majority of the time a bigger elite guy will beat a smaller elite guy. Those 1% of smaller guys that are able to beat giant elite guys are very special, unique and gifted. 3 examples are genetic mutation(Oleg Zhokh), special style(Crazy George), or just unrealistic speed(Talgat Aktaev).
Júlio Salotti Devon has won with it twice so far against people that outmatch him in power, like Todd Hutchings and Chafee. The Monster bled Devon out the last time with the KM and there is no reason to not believe Devon is going to match fire with fire
@@bacon9151 That's exactly why I think he won't use it. If you watch the match when he won against Todd, you can see he got OVER the KM and pulled him down with a weird angle. But I don't think he'll do that now... But I also don't think he will use the King's Move, since Michael has more experience with it. But I'm excited to see what happens
Todd has a natural lock on his arm which makes the king's move perfect for him. Devon is good with the king's move and has its uses but brings much more to the table these days. Also that weight gain has increased his strength a decent amount but I would imagine he would loose a km contest with Todd
@Julio Salotti @ John Jackson Look at the match with Chafee, that’s all I’m saying. We literally saw a double kings move used by both competitors to avoid a pin. Definitely plausible that can happen again,
Why dont u guys just release the full interview. This same interview was uploaded 3 weeks ago and one almost 5 weeks ago. I know u need content, but...come on lol
Animated Ant Ye they sit down and record an hours worth of content and hen break it up and release it week by week that way to extend their content and garner more views off of different videos = kaching! More money baby. WAL is nothing but a cashcow circus. There is 0 integrity and prestige.
Muscle size does matter,but it goes at a cost,your hart needs to pump way more blood to feed those muscles some oxygen for some endurence.....it makes you think right?!
6:10 Adam Engin Terzi'nin elinin ne kadar güçlü olduğundan bahsediyor ve kendisi hakkında hayranlıkla konuştuklarından bahsediyor. Ve Devon kendisinin bir istisna olduğunu söylüyor. Respect for Terzi!
Great video. 100% agree with Devon on nearly every topic. Its the frame and Devon has the perfect frame for arm wrestling. You could see that when he was 220lbs. Super lean low body fat with plenty of room to grow with a 6'5 frame. Someone like Bresnan is soft and only going to get softer as he gets bigger. Middle weight guys should be athletic genetically its easy to be that way. On the point of technique the heavyweight and open divisions require high technique as a must because only a small % of the population are that size. A sloppy technical heavyweight puller is going to get found out in 5 minutes.
I think size really does matter. Especially with the really big guys, because arent just big...but are super strong and muscular, irregardless of whether its on or off the table. Like Levan....has a monstrous bench, huge bicep curl, super strong shoulders, probably the strongest side pressure out there. Like a brick wall. Thats why i think strength, more than anything, is probably the most important...at least once you reach that too level. It seems like the strongest guys usually wins...at the very top level, though. It doesnt seem to matter so much with the heavyweight and lightweight guys, because they are all pretty strong for their size and technically great, but they can move more, are usually faster....so they are likely to be more technical, and leverage matters a little bit more. But....a really interesting topic.
Kings move should have really been named "Jesters Move", tbh. Interesting discussion around size. Very true, skill/ability can only get you so far with pumping against a higher class. Hence, reasons I may have been "stronger" technically than a friend, but being a lot heavier was able to throw me easier. Can't always fight mass.
No, that's not physics. That's correlation. Physics would be having the advantage from your arms getting longer creating angular and geometric differences.
@@TTime685 you stated more mass equals more strength. This is never the case for muscle tissue. Example. Body builders being weaker than power lifters.
@@WattWerxPEV Lol Pro body builders and power lifters are both huge strong men becuase of sheer muscle mass... Not because of some "special type" of muscle.. There's plenty body builders that compete in Strong Man competitions... Larry Wheels for example. You can't argue with physics bud.
Talent pool size does matter. At the elite level, everyone has a genetic gift whether you can see it or not. If there are 2 people in your weight class, you have a better chance of being the best than if there are 4 people. It's not just about hard work at this level, it's about what your genetics can do with that work.
Devon Larratt made this Sport so big hes like Mcgregor of Armwrestling he made it to what it is he made it Mainstream! And then alot of Surgerys and other Stuff Age aswell mabey kept him back but i mean 6x Hammer Holder beat that its easy to do Things only 1 Time to be perfect once but doing it Year after Year Time and Time again we will see if those People have it in them!! There is a long Way to go to beat Devons Record!
He's clearly been on the gear, it's not just the swollen face that gives it away but also the reddening. When you juice the blood pressure goes up massively.
Bob Houghton Not arguing he isn’t natty here but putting on a lot of muscle is hard at any age. Not a huge difference in your 40’s compared to your 20’s and 30’s. 40’s you’ll notice longer recovery and nagging joint issues being the biggest impeding factor not the slight decline in testosterone but you can still build/maintain good muscle and strength well into your 40’s. Of course individual genetics will vary results. 50’s and older is where the decline truly begins.
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Does size matter? - Michael Todd : " yes,it matters the size of the table,as high is table,it's easier for me to go under it "
hahahahaha
Ahahahah
Damn u 🤣🤣🤣🤣👌🏻
lol wtf best coment ever
=D =D =D agree
I could listen to devon talk for hours lol he's so insightful. When he speaks you just want to LISTEN
Gefari Productions get off his nut dude
Top Dog shut up gaggle
Akash Patil-Terhune lol bro you’re Indian, I don’t need to say anymore. 😂
Gefari Productions ok tough guy
Such a likeable guy
277lbs the biggest Devon we have ever seen.
2021 Devon - Hold my maple syrup.
When Neil Pickup interrupted and said boys we have to wrap this up. I wanted to throw something at him
Sorry Dan, not actually my decision mate, the Guys at the other side of the Camera call the shots on how long we can go
@@neilpickup-supernaturalstr3157 0 content on your channel but I sub'd anyway. Total legend mate, keep up the good work.
@@neilpickup-supernaturalstr3157 thats what she said
@WUTRUCASUL? that's completely true
@@neilpickup-supernaturalstr3157 Neil, I just watched the Eddie Hall vs Joshua jenga match. Your commentary had me pissing my pants. Absolute legend
My arms just got bigger after watching this video.
Not the best fap material
me too bro hahaha
mine got smaller
Are you sure it was your arm that got bigger?
lol same here. 😂😂👌👌
Could of easily been an hour show
MrLipp24 have you seen our other episodes?
@hhhk20 Man, seriously, not cool to say such things...
@hhhk20 I agree that neglecting your kids is horrible, but you can't say that about Devon - You really don't have enough information.
@hhhk20 i see your point bro, but without actually knowing devon personally can you really make a definitive judgement of his parenting? furthermore, even if you did know him personally it's difficult to accurately judge his family's household dynamics and how he and his family work through their issues. so, maybe you're right, but maybe you're wrong but i don't believe you have sufficient evidence/insight to truly draw a conclusion on how devon treats/feels about his children and it's a little weird that you seem so passionate about it in the first place.
@hhhk20 Ahh, man, thanks for writing this. Shows you're a kind guy. I grew up with emotionally absent and abusive parents, so I can relate to this. Your children should take priority over all else in life.
I didn’t realize how big Devon was, dude is huge
Tripp42 Former Canadian armed forces. Dude is built like a brick shithouse
Vividest Beast I see that now lol
@@franqueworren7323 Once you're over the age of 40 you could legally obtain test in many places.
Juu se on niin pitkä. Ni näyttää kädet vähä ruipelolta.
@@Mo-kl4fb legal to get TRT where Devon lives but not legal to give him several substances in large amounts plus prescription-only drugs to counter act the side effects.
4:49 i love how todd and larratt look at each other like what is this guy on about
"That's why we have weight divisions..." omg...
lol nice one
A guy who wins at 165 loses to himself at 195, but the 165 guy who wins titles doesn’t win titles at 195.
Just like Devon said.
The rarest guys are outliers. They are almost unicorns. Oleg isn’t gifted, he’s a mutant.
13:51 “you could be 290lbs” that aged pretty well actually
RVJ always looks like he's contemplating life loll
SiREN-DRUMS he’s so focused.
LOL...you could literally pause this video at any point in time and RVJ will have that look.
"Hello darkness my old friend"
I loved having him there for this talk! He contributed a lot about being in a smaller weight class but being able to beat much heavier opponents.
Kyle Smith he does seem to be the more intelligent one out of the 3
This was an amazing discussion - everyone seemed super engaged (even RVJ for a change :D). I wouldn't mind longer talks either when it flows like that, the ending felt like a cliffhanger.
Yeah RVJ contributed a lot of good points to this discussion!
yeah more girthy videos would be much appreciated
Rvj is the most intellectual out of the other 2 dimwits... todds bland persona is unbearable and Devon’s just constantly trying to out alpha every guy he comes across it’s so painful.. he tries so hard.
Legend says They're all sitting under a giant table
That’s an awesome idea for michaels new podcast that would be legendary
Did we miss something?
@@WorldArmwrestlingLeague yes 😂😂
@@WorldArmwrestlingLeague rly????........
@@WorldArmwrestlingLeague Can you link the video where RVJ beat Dave Chaffee because im having a hard time believing that.
Props to WAL for putting out content like this! Love watching the power these guys have but it's cool to know how much knowledge they have to back it up... True experts in their field!
My thoughts are let them keep talking and make a longer video. But was a great videos
There is a WAL podcast for that
@@TimmyTurner421 I doubt it was with the 4 of them and that they picked up from where they stopped here.
Devon used kg :D
Well, he comes from a civilized country.
Well, using non SI units like pounds, Fahrenheit, miles etc. is pretty stupid, isn't it?
Best units, kg, miles, feet, metres, cm, mm
@@AW-Luke Yeah mate, I'm 5 foot 27cm
Dr. Abs, lol
Devon is a freakin scientist. I love listening to his insight. You needed JB here to speak on this.
Brzenk is the GOAT and hes never been the biggest guy
John is a freak. We can't use that as proof for the average guy not needing to be as big as their weight class and frame allows. Size matters but isn't everything is the obvious answer.
Brodhax Travis beat Brzenk easy.
He's also never been under a table....
It’s obvious he’s an outlier lol he has freak tendon strength, just cause he can do it doesn’t mean every man can. Majority are gonna have to get bigger
Jon Paul Travis never beat John easy. Even then he was on the decline. We all know John is the goat.
Despite all the hate i actually still kind of like michael todd but Super Heavyweight Champion of the world my ass...
i guess RUSSIA is on the moon
Michael said that he plans on challenging the winner of Top8. I guess we'll get to see Laletin flash pin M.Todd in a couple of months.
@@HyakuJuu01300 You mean Levan
@@jonathanlalmuansanga5030 u gotta get thru laletin first before u contemplate on going against levan
Hyaku Juu When is top 8? Isnt it today?
@@saigajv yes sir
2:08
Devon's snap is better than Thanos's snap
Thanks Neil, That was a fantastic discussion and I think Rob, Mike and Devon all made excellent points. We have weight divisions for a reason, as was pointed out. The exception, of course, is Super Heavy when the sky's the limit. Weight is no use, as Mike pointed out, if its simply blubber. There's a sweet spot for every athlete. You can get bigger but lose endurance or dynamism. We also have to admit that some athletes are doing things to their bodies, in order to get bigger, that is detrimental to their health.
RVJ avoids eye contact like my Dad avoids loving me.
Ei sitä ny kannata koko aikaa tuijottaa.
Brent give your father a chance 9:14
Ooof size large
Does the V in RVJ mean Vietnam veteran?
@Andre McGoo not on the camera for my perspective...but it seems like he's nervous n he's a lil of an introvert guy....he has problem having eye contact with both todd n devon
When RVJ said he beat Chafee, he got some immediate respect.
True
Where did he beat him though? Pulling for fun at a bar or actual real tournament or something. If its a true match then respect.
@@marble25 True
@@marble25 Because I couldn't find it here on YT
Dave Chaffe is by far better than RVJ
What's Michael *'under the table'* Todd doing with these pro arm wrestlers
Didnt devon larrat do the same thing with hafthor? But nobody bitches cuz too many fanhoys
Dragondude30 no he didn’t he dropped.
It's honestly amazing, these dudes are huge, strong, in great shape and they still look like human beings. Meanwhile, over in eastern Europe, you've got Levan and Denis looking like Seth McFarlane drawings due to all the fucking HGH and steroids.
Yeah...you can not sit with them in KFC...
michael "under the todd" table
David Fischer I laughed out loud reading this
Michael "under the table" Todd
10:22 hit nail on the head.
“MiChEaL tOdD, tHe hEaVy wEiGhT cHaMPiOn oF tHe wOrLD”
We all know who the real goat is
who?
The goat of this sport is simply brzenk .
TRUE
@@lepe devonnnnn
@@roiatiya4303 not even close bro
Two words John Brzenk, that should an end yo this debate.
brzenk broke all the rules of physics
Conrado Soares de Lima Avenatti he was a freak!
How much did brzeng weight?
Devon Larrrat is a real monster. His strong now.
@pan peter impossible, he just can't move him the last time
@Butcher B man, they are all on roids
@@stepanbk there can be a big difference in the amounts they are taking. Denis was obviously abusing it .
Stepan Bunyak Yes they are all taking roids but cyplenkov was abusing that. And that fucked up his body.
Denis was on 10g of roids a week larrat at the time probably on no more then 500mg
I agree with them. Size matters up to the point where the competition is too great or until your frame/geometry/style can't effectively use more mass. I think this translates to wrestling too.
I wanna see tournament between Europe and USA!
Mitko Burovski that will happen.
devon is canada not usa
Most of the North American guys won’t even compare to the europeans... but then again under WAL reffing anything can happen I mean just look at how they butchered Ermes gasparini..
Should be interesting. Not a domination from either side but we’ll get to see good competitive matches. My money on Europe edging just slightly with a little better technique
@FirstEastern Perspective you're stupid, neither of those are as strong as Denis and chaffe for example has pinned denis, he'd beat almost everyone in the top 8, so would michael todd, so would devon, it's only vitaly and especially levan that are looking unstoppable.
RVJ makes intelligent conversations like devon etc.
Cool!
Yeah RVJ surprised me with how many super heavy weights he's beaten!
Cant wait for the devon michael rematch
Jonesy makes 100 of us.
It’ll be another circus exhibition
Kev Dawg, Devon showed us that he has a King’s Move, too.
If the refs are unbiased and call the elbow fouls AND insist that the forearm/triceps are NOT the elbow (which they are not), Todd has almost ZERO chance of beating Devon.
The problem is that too many refs ignore the elbow fouls and they let the elbow leave the pad and consider the forearm to be okay.
@Kev Dawg Michael's been training really hard though. I saw him at ikea ducking under all the tables for 12 hours straight! Monster!
293 dudes
Good stuff Neil. Keep entertaining us with the innuendo's.
Nobody:
Levan: size matters
0:22 that crazy funny man with his silky smooth voice. Neil Pickup is the best. Whatever WAL pays him I feel like it's not enough. 😄
Don't really get the joke 😩
@@jakabbaZ It's about dick size...and a waterfall in Finland would be cold and have a shrinking effect on the male appendage.
@@nickitaw Didn't really need explaining but there it is :)
The tournament we all want:
West vs. East. The best of North and South America vs. the best of Europe and Asia.
Wow devan is looking bigger then he ever has!! Looks like he wants to rematch tysplenkov.
Been arm wrestling in japan for the last 2 years and I gotta say it’s hard telling just how strong people are here until you grip up with them. At my size I have to pull as tactical as possible because there’s middle and heavyweights who are just plain stronger than me and the only thing I can do is try to stop the match and look for weak points. Size definitely helps mechanically but as far as muscle mass goes I no longer use it as a way of judging how strong they are. Big difference between show muscle and go muscle.
RVJ looks like he is on the verge of a panic attack. Maybe not comfortable in front of the camera. I noticed cuz I can relate lol
He looks like he just doesn’t care to be there. If he was nervous or panicking then he’d probably be sitting up straight, fake smiling, making much more of an effort.
Love it! Neil Pickup is the best!
when did Rob beat Chaffee? i refuse to believe it.
He beat Chafee in 2017, after Chafee pulled about a dozen guys, and then he Dad-Moved Rob and let him use 2 hands. So yeah, he did beat Chafee XD
He also beat him sometime during 2010
"As i said to my Mrs. As got out of that waterfall in Finland,does size matter?" Lol, greetings from Finland🤣
He was just getting into it. Larret. All the way. Shout out Kelowna BC
Devons resting position for this arm/hands is a hook. Devon is always awaiting the next pull
I wish the video was longer, so that we could hear more of these guys' thoughts on this subject , as I felt there was much more to talk about....
All great, but cmon guys it could've been longer..
Not sure if that's actually relevant.. I'm just saying the guys ware having something more to say, the discussion was interesting, and Neil just pulled the plug like in the middle of it.
Also I rather not judge someone that I don't know personally, peace 💪
That was Neil's wife's reply to his question
@@BawlBag it was "yes Fatty !".......... then she left me for some Guy with a Hat & a Towel 🤘
hhhk20 I agree with you man. That home must seriously be lacking a father figure.. too much time with mummy isn’t good. And yes about the house in every video the place looks like an actual dump lol why can’t white people keep a clean house?
This used to be a respectful community... Which only means arm wrestlers and organisations have done amazing job of popularising the sport last year or two, so that even lifeless individuals like you are here boosting the comment section with crap. Nice
Ok RVJ has no victory against Dave Chaffee
@THE GENERAL yeah man lets be real there is no way that Rvj beat Dave, Dave is one of the strongest arm wrestlers
RVJ has definitely beaten chafee
andrew holmes Video? Because I can bet RVJ doesn’t stand a chance against Chafee.
andrew holmes, please back up your claims with facts/video.
Not training/after pulling/warmups, an actual match.
Elijah Robinson I can’t seem to find the video but I’m sure I’ve seen it before
Awesome video... Big Devon!!!!
Glad you like it!
@hhhk20 I only meant that Devon looks big on this particular video, buddy.
@hhhk20 here we have someone who is so terribly jealous of Devon's life that he cant help but unjustly hate on him everywhere. Seriously dude, I see you everywhere. You're obsessed with him. Get a life.
00:15 and "Under the Table" Todd
Devon just answered the question at 4:53
If there was no weight division, of course size would matter so that's why they're in place.
So yes, size does matter when transitioning up classes.
I didn't hear John's Brzenks name with guys that aren't huge that are amazing.
John was mentioned once.
Well u didn't listen hard enough.
Nice sit down Neil. It was enjoyable listening to all of you.
Breznk classic case...in his prime? Beats everyone in a match siting there..
Didn't larrett beat him?
@@gillybuzz they both have beaten each other but icr if John was in his prime when Dev beat him or not
Idk. Devon looks like a beast
John Beat a bigger Denis than Devon;) passed his prime to
@@mikesharon2177 lol, bigger denis than devon fought 😂?? the size of denis that devon fought of is just a little bit smaller than his peak back then. You can see denis true peak when he is fighting against late andrey pushkar, dave chaffee and arsen liliev . The size that john beat is smaller version when denis still inexperienced but still stronger than other top armwrestler that time and john have the same age like devon that time , around 40+ . I don't think john has passed his prime yet, it's true he getting older that time but he become so experience, technical and heavier that time. He prepared so well because of his thought to face voevoda again, but unfortunately voevoda already retired.
Without question, Devon is the brightest arm wrestler I've ever seen. The only person that comes close to him is Engin. He is a walking encyclopedia. I could listen to him talk strategy and analysis all day
Devon Larratt is clearly on TRT now. Good for him.
Now ? He has been for a few years
Or he is eating 6 times a day every 2 hrs it can be done i have done it.
Try?
who else wanted Devon to get on the table and humble Rob
0:37 LMAOOO i love how Neil complements Devons size then immediately says RVJ can beat him ina hook
Levan demolishes each of these great guys
Great video Devon is HUGE
Good discussion. Some of these professionals are so big that they can’t get their shoulders into position to take advantage of their strength and size. From some of the matches I’ve watched.
It's "The View" from Under the Table 💪😜
the more bulk, muscle
you have the more oxygen is required in my opinion stamina can be affected by size.
bigger frames can accomodate more muscle. a 5'6 guy at 200 will be sluggish. a 5'11 guy is gonna pe right in his comfort zone though. Bigger frames sacrafice less cardio with weight gain generally speaking.
I love seeing Devon back on the gear. What a monster. Without the gear he was looking like a lanky pot smoker.
Steve Smith To be fair, he is a lanky pot smoker
@@wedfrest I would hardly call 275 lbs lanky... lol
Steve Smith LoL fair enough, weight wise. But in the UK lanky also means tall 👍
Todd is very honest, and devon is the boss here. Very good conversations.
I59300H RTX2060 32GB far from the boss. Boss here is Neil and then rvj then Devon
@@thearmwrestlingmemechannel1434 opinion son.
michael "pull me off the cliff" todd
Don't you love how the WAL uses Devon as the face of every video that he is in with other WAL pros. It's smart to use his social media popularity.
Mike Todd personalizes his comments on ‘everything almost’.
Devons deduces what he observes without having to almost ever include himself in relating to it.
Just a difference I noticed
Yeah two different focuses that collide: Todd: "I want to be the best arm wrestler I can be". Devon: "I want to be the best arm wrestler that there can be".
its "I'm just going to keep going higher and higher while looking up" vs "I'm looking up to see the maximum point because I'm not stopping until that spot". Kinda two sides of the same coin.
@@snap-off5383 No limits, that name fits
I think RVJ is right on, it's very case sensitive when it comes to size. Though generally majority of the time a bigger elite guy will beat a smaller elite guy. Those 1% of smaller guys that are able to beat giant elite guys are very special, unique and gifted. 3 examples are genetic mutation(Oleg Zhokh), special style(Crazy George), or just unrealistic speed(Talgat Aktaev).
Links to the mutants?
@@therealwewin Just search his name!!!
Can’t wait to see who’s king move is better now. Todd’s or Devon’s.
I don't think Devon will win with KM. I think he has some new strategy
Júlio Salotti Devon has won with it twice so far against people that outmatch him in power, like Todd Hutchings and Chafee. The Monster bled Devon out the last time with the KM and there is no reason to not believe Devon is going to match fire with fire
@@bacon9151 That's exactly why I think he won't use it. If you watch the match when he won against Todd, you can see he got OVER the KM and pulled him down with a weird angle. But I don't think he'll do that now... But I also don't think he will use the King's Move, since Michael has more experience with it. But I'm excited to see what happens
Todd has a natural lock on his arm which makes the king's move perfect for him. Devon is good with the king's move and has its uses but brings much more to the table these days. Also that weight gain has increased his strength a decent amount but I would imagine he would loose a km contest with Todd
@Julio Salotti @ John Jackson
Look at the match with Chafee, that’s all I’m saying. We literally saw a double kings move used by both competitors to avoid a pin. Definitely plausible that can happen again,
Rob looks so happy to be there
2:54 Matt Mask
That dude could potentially become huuuuge.
"Does technical prowess diminish as you go up in the weight classes?"
(instant) "Yes."
Michael Todd felt that
12:00 devon's arm 😍
Imagine how big it would be if he worked on his triceps. His biceps is absolutely humongous..
watching the shift in conversation away from complete impossibility and to nuanced takes was nice actually
Why dont u guys just release the full interview. This same interview was uploaded 3 weeks ago and one almost 5 weeks ago. I know u need content, but...come on lol
Animated Ant Ye they sit down and record an hours worth of content and hen break it up and release it week by week that way to extend their content and garner more views off of different videos = kaching! More money baby. WAL is nothing but a cashcow circus. There is 0 integrity and prestige.
I'm guessing it's also because it's out of season for them so they have to keep people interested until it picks up again
Muscle size does matter,but it goes at a cost,your hart needs to pump way more blood to feed those muscles some oxygen for some endurence.....it makes you think right?!
Why is jokester Todd even a part of this panel, his method of table hiding has nothing to do with arm wrestling
The more creative "under the table" jokes are funny but he is not the only one to use it, its legal, get over it 😁
6:10 Adam Engin Terzi'nin elinin ne kadar güçlü olduğundan bahsediyor ve kendisi hakkında hayranlıkla konuştuklarından bahsediyor. Ve Devon kendisinin bir istisna olduğunu söylüyor. Respect for Terzi!
When Devon speaks, I JUST want to listen! Just like my grandpa!
Great video. 100% agree with Devon on nearly every topic. Its the frame and Devon has the perfect frame for arm wrestling. You could see that when he was 220lbs. Super lean low body fat with plenty of room to grow with a 6'5 frame. Someone like Bresnan is soft and only going to get softer as he gets bigger. Middle weight guys should be athletic genetically its easy to be that way.
On the point of technique the heavyweight and open divisions require high technique as a must because only a small % of the population are that size. A sloppy technical heavyweight puller is going to get found out in 5 minutes.
Sounds like they are preparing to kick Rob out of the category :D, same as Todd Hutchings
Gabriel C rob isn’t in the heavies..
@@thearmwrestlingmemechannel1434 he will be. this is what they are suggesting, maybe in 2021 or 2020 even
I think size really does matter. Especially with the really big guys, because arent just big...but are super strong and muscular, irregardless of whether its on or off the table. Like Levan....has a monstrous bench, huge bicep curl, super strong shoulders, probably the strongest side pressure out there. Like a brick wall. Thats why i think strength, more than anything, is probably the most important...at least once you reach that too level. It seems like the strongest guys usually wins...at the very top level, though. It doesnt seem to matter so much with the heavyweight and lightweight guys, because they are all pretty strong for their size and technically great, but they can move more, are usually faster....so they are likely to be more technical, and leverage matters a little bit more. But....a really interesting topic.
When RVJ claims to have beaten some heavyweights. Where is the footage. Dreams dont count. And winning a round our of 5 rounds also does not count.
Do some research, buddy.
When your parents claim you are their son, where is the footage of you being born? Dreams don't count. Gotta go with a DNA test, am I right?
@@liusam2305 Haha, actually I have my birth video lol. I get what you are saying.
@@TheSid2355 So are you sure who your father is? You never know until you do the DNA test.
@@liusam2305 he said he gets your point dipass
Kings move should have really been named "Jesters Move", tbh. Interesting discussion around size. Very true, skill/ability can only get you so far with pumping against a higher class. Hence, reasons I may have been "stronger" technically than a friend, but being a lot heavier was able to throw me easier. Can't always fight mass.
More muscle mass means more strength.. That's just physics
No, that's not physics. That's correlation. Physics would be having the advantage from your arms getting longer creating angular and geometric differences.
@@WattWerxPEV Yes.. Sheer mass being applied to anything is basic simple physics.. Newton's laws.
@@TTime685 you stated more mass equals more strength. This is never the case for muscle tissue. Example. Body builders being weaker than power lifters.
@@WattWerxPEV Lol Pro body builders and power lifters are both huge strong men becuase of sheer muscle mass... Not because of some "special type" of muscle.. There's plenty body builders that compete in Strong Man competitions... Larry Wheels for example. You can't argue with physics bud.
@@TTime685 you obviously dont know much about weight training. Stick to physics bill bye
I heard Todd was going on tour with the Dave Matthews Band in a few years for the 30th-anniversary tour of one of their greatest albums!
Does size matter lololol 😂😂
For a guy from Massachussets RVJ is quiet as hell here.
Talent pool size does matter. At the elite level, everyone has a genetic gift whether you can see it or not. If there are 2 people in your weight class, you have a better chance of being the best than if there are 4 people. It's not just about hard work at this level, it's about what your genetics can do with that work.
Yes you gotta have something going for you to make it to that level
Timmy Turner pssst... don’t tell anyone but I heard Ryan Bowen’s thing is ‘vectors’. Don’t tell anyone.
Devon Larratt made this Sport so big hes like Mcgregor of Armwrestling he made it to what it is he made it Mainstream! And then alot of Surgerys and other Stuff Age aswell mabey kept him back but i mean 6x Hammer Holder beat that its easy to do Things only 1 Time to be perfect once but doing it Year after Year Time and Time again we will see if those People have it in them!! There is a long Way to go to beat Devons Record!
In a year or two RVJ will be replaced by Ryan Bowen
13:49 that didnt age well lol
Devon put on lots of muscle weight in his mid 40's.
Those steroids making his face all swoll too.
Agreed. He lost around 25lbs since this was shot. Check out his recent video.
your head naturally get wider or larger as you age.. but steriods can add to it too....
It's OK to take test when you grow older, I don;t see anything wrong with that
He's clearly been on the gear, it's not just the swollen face that gives it away but also the reddening. When you juice the blood pressure goes up massively.
Bob Houghton
Not arguing he isn’t natty here but putting on a lot of muscle is hard at any age. Not a huge difference in your 40’s compared to your 20’s and 30’s. 40’s you’ll notice longer recovery and nagging joint issues being the biggest impeding factor not the slight decline in testosterone but you can still build/maintain good muscle and strength well into your 40’s. Of course individual genetics will vary results.
50’s and older is where the decline truly begins.
They are arguing way more politely than professional politicians. Respect!
there's no table cause if there was michael todd would hide under it
One day I wanna go pro! I'm really good at arm wrestling, I've got the moves and strength... but nothing like these guys.
"Engaging topic" "OK LETS WRAP IT UP". Always way too short, you can see they had a lot more to say.
I agree but I'm amazed that this even happened
Agreed 100% 💯
I loved it, hope to see more videos like this in the future.