+Mathmachine You didn't really want to kill the arcane golem though. He'd have lost if he didn't win that turn anyway. The Boombot was already a failure the moment it targetted the arcane golem instead of face for a much more likely win.
That last play where he went fiery war axe to the hunter's face for three sort of helps me realize why I have such a hard time climbing the higher tiers of the ladder. I shudder to think of how many close games I lost because I missed a simple decision like going face with the axe.
i wonder if rafaam would be worth it in this deck since you almost always have sticky minions for the 10/10 and you can get more 3/3 if board was recently aoe'd.
I'm no expert about Hearthstone, but if Patron is a neutral card could it work in a priest deck? With Light Well, Circle of healing, and hero power. You could add injured blade master, cruel taskmaster, and that ghoul taunt to make copies. Then heal them and mill them. If someone has made this deck before could someone tell me the finished product.
Gibba1992 Like I said no expert. What about this as a guideline Sir finley Mrrgglton unstable ghoul lightwell patron warrior, holy champion explosive sheep injured Blademaster, circle of healing resurrect mad bomber madder bomber Holy Nova Light of the Naaru Power word : shield And maybe Velen's Chosen
+Dylan Johnston just letting you know pal. It certainly seems like an interesting deck idea that you should experiment with. I would suggest some clerics for draw as well
Gibba1992 You can just call me Dylan, and I am thinking of getting Hearthstone the game. I started watching Trump to see if this is a good game. If you play ,your welcome to take my idea ; just let me know what the finished product is. Have a great day today. :-)
Trump I tried playing this deck at around rank 5 and was not able to climb that well because I couldn't get Grommash when I needed him or the Mage hero power from Sir Finley. Please help with my luck!!
+Håkon K These videos are heavily edited. Some games are removed and large parts of the turns are cut considering trump ropes literally every turn. Recent theory I have is that he actually ranks up to legend by just roping everybody to the point of them not caring about the game anymore.
Could be that he took a break after hitting legend. I think your rank in legend can change without you playing since there's a set number of spots in legend (not 100% on that last one, confirmation would be appreciated).
+Håkon K The rankings will change even when you're not playing since it's decided with a hidden rating value. Other players keep playing in the meantime, meaning more legend players as the month goes on with some getting a better rating. Early in the season it's not unusual to win a game, but actually have a lower legend rank afterwards. Since so many other players are entering legend rank.
+Håkon K check the time. His last rank 1 match was at 2:16, whereas his first legend match was at 4:54. He took a break and dropped some ranks during that time without playing, since legend ranks work like a dynamic leaderboard
i was mistaken, it can fit into weapon decks, i thought it was "cost one less per use of weapon" so nvm, play around with it, if it wins games or makes board presence that wins games, use it
+Still Breathing If you somehow get houndmaster on it... it is pretty good... too bad it is still a really slow card which is bad in hunter if you want to be aggressive (and it is rather useless on it's own which is a problem because hunter usually don't have much card draw)
That last play he should have inner raged the arcane golem rather than Dr.Boom. It's basically gambling one boom-bot would hit for 4 vs. two hitting for 6.
+YiYi The Wuster Everyone who is legend is basically 1 step up from rank 1, it isn't a new ladder. He had been on a winning streak, and beaten some people with a fairly high master rank on the final stretch, so when he finally got into master rank it ranked him very high. If you had lost 5 games but won 7 on your way to master, and only beaten people ranks 1 or 2 or low masters, you would enter master rank with a lower number.
ever since i started watching strife's vids, trump has been lackluster. i really don't know if he could be worse at explaining high level choices. I don't have in the deck because i don't think i need it! wow, no shit? great circular logic there.
+Linkman95 If you watch his vids, you will see that he is asked this question about every 5 minutes. Not only is it repetitious, it is annoying and somewhat insulting. Day[9} for example, who puts his deck together in a much more slap-dash fashion, has lately been saying, "No suggestions or question without suggesting or questioning what you'd remove first".
+Linkman95 I think it's because he's tired of answering the same questions over and over when people can simply click on the FAQ on his streams. The FAQ goes pretty in depth.
+Caleb B Agreed. It's my impression that Trump tends to answer questions with the same thoughtfulness as the person asking the question. Before you ask a question, think about whether or not Trump's deck structure answers your question on its own (i.e. should i substitute x for y; if you have x, no, trump has x because x is better). Also consider if your question is too simple or self-evident to be worth answering (i.e. what should i play to rank up? play what you're best at, or play what Trump is currently streaming). Finally, consider if your question is complex or meta-sensitive enough to ask Trump as opposed to consulting a winrate list or decklists (i.e. if the current meta continues, what shifts do you expect to see in the popular decks/what counterdecks are likely to dominate the meta?) I've seen Trump answer a lot of good questions, but he also ignores or chides a bunch of lazy questions. A lot of the time it seems like he wants to teach his viewers to think about their choices rather than just ask him to make the choice for them.
That's because Trump answers these kinds of questions like 5 times a day and after the second time it gets wildly irritating. Most questions are literally just there so Trump reacts to the person and the person can feel special about it. Like meeting your favorite Hollywood actor and asking him some dumb thing like "what's your favorite colour" because you couldn't think of something but desperately crave the attention. Trump puts a lot of thought into serious questions, but "why is card X not in this deck" only has a handful of answers "too slow, not impactful enough, doesn't combo well or just is unnecessary"
+Meatshovel Vids Because a lot of the time, using the inner rage means he is able to get 4 patrons on the board instead of 2, if he plays it all out from hand. 4 patrons is, with some exceptions, the magic number that keeps the opponent from removing them all, or so it has seemed from Trump's games. In comparison, 2 measly attack is not that important.
Good to save it for just in case anyway. There are a lot of triggers for grim patron. Two more points of damage make Gromm that much scarier. ( btw it it's grom MASH not grom mish. Grammar Nazi!!)
Anyone else notice that he got rank 66 at the end of the mage match, then the very next game he's rank 162? That means he didn't show one match. Unless I'm mistaking in that legend 1 is the best you can get, then that means he DOES in fact only upload his wins most of the time.
You actually raise your chances at winning on average using the inner rage on the arcane golem instead of Dr. Boom, since you just need both bombs to deal 3-4 damage, which is about 50%. Otherwise you're hoping the bomb hitting face for 4 damage if the other bomb hits the golem. That said, it worked out better using the Inner Rage on Boom this time since the Hunter would've been left at 1.
Korvas well unlike dota or league etc ur not gna get flamed or shit talked in hearthstone. u can always look up deck builds with what u do have (if theres a site where u can list cards and it shows which decks u can actually make i would like to know cus when i check im always missing like 5% of the deck). And also just learn from ur mistakes, take ur time to think about each play and theres no rush. Nobody was instantly good unless they came from another game, everyone had to learn at some point is what i mean. Just dont feel stupid and have fun with tweaking a deck that works for how u like to play (aggression / control / early game etc)
"im not going to armor up first because I could naturally draw into stuff", having no way of drawing any cards unless you want to slam your own minion that you just played. which he did not
Doceinstein he could still have drawn and played nearly half his deck because most of his minions cost 5 or less unless he wanted to grommash, which he still wouldn't have mana for, patron + whirlwind maybe, but the odds are pretty low
I don't see why you can't answer these questions in a non-condescending fashion. Just tell people why it's good in the deck it's in. Saying it's good because you run it doesn't explain anything.
+Creations Not true about the end turn button. The end turn button only turns green when there are no other actions left. Since he still had mana leftover and hero power wasn't used, it wouldn't have turned green even if he didn't win.
"So I heard you Patrons are pretty good at Starcraft. What is your favorite Protoss structure?"
"HEH HEH, PYLON!"
Nice One
denk af comedy.
+Duncan Van Ooyen ev-ev-ev-ev-eryone, micro in here!
dansgame
Lol. Thats pretty funny :D
Yay constructed! Just what I needed before sleep. Your channel is so entertaining in it's own, I love it
That is a nice attitude, if I had my own money I would aswell
+TheTriforcekeeper Trumps videos make me really tired...
+Gecko Gold Trump will put his children to sleep by telling them stories about his HS games :D
+Gecko Gold really helps me on sleepless nights.
+uuuubbbbuuuubbbb I dont know but that made me really happy xD
"Before 301" club, this is value.
Wow, those Boombots did perfect damage to kill each target. I almost feel sorry for that Face Hunter...almost.
+Mathmachine You didn't really want to kill the arcane golem though. He'd have lost if he didn't win that turn anyway. The Boombot was already a failure the moment it targetted the arcane golem instead of face for a much more likely win.
+MrMrUm I know, but it did perfect damage needed to kill both with just 1 bot each. Kinda insult added to the injury.
You've always been a legend in my heart
That last play where he went fiery war axe to the hunter's face for three sort of helps me realize why I have such a hard time climbing the higher tiers of the ladder. I shudder to think of how many close games I lost because I missed a simple decision like going face with the axe.
I was hopping the boom bots would kill Grommash in the first game... I feel dissapointed
+FrozedNj
1 in 64 chance, sadly.
I wasn't the only one then! haha
+w1q2e3r4t5 It would actually be 1 in 144 chance.
*****
Ah,right, I was counting one of the boom bots as a character that they could hit.
+FrozedNj I was cringing that it would happen.
Congratz with LEGEND =)
That last play definitely is gonna be on the top 10 of the season. Praise the boom.
"Oh did I win?!" - Trump
That was the single most astonishment I have ever observed in anyone's voice, ever.
that's Why de Love Trump so much
+Kobie Lunsford Future record: At 4:30
went on a 7 game streak with this exact deck today. i like
has been a long time cairne, its good to see you friend....
This deck is crazy! Buy is so good
If you rope out your turn while discovering a new hero power or card, what happens?
+Schruef It automatically selects the one on the left I think.
+MItseas208 it does
I believe it picks the one on the left
I think it takes the card on the.. left? but idunno.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it picks the one on the (you guessed it) left.
Yay two vids per day.
i wonder if rafaam would be worth it in this deck since you almost always have sticky minions for the 10/10 and you can get more 3/3 if board was recently aoe'd.
The last game was pretty cool. I would have never thought to hit face there and would have auto killed the golem
Is the deck still good without grom? What should I replace it with? (except for target dummy and wisp - haven't managed to get them yet)
Why does he has Sir Finley Mrrgglton in this deck?
Which heropower would be the best?
Mages 1 dmg Ping is best cus of triggering enrages, grim patrons, acolytes of pain etc
What would be the best substitute for mrrglton?
I'm no expert about Hearthstone, but if Patron is a neutral card could it work in a priest deck? With Light Well, Circle of healing, and hero power. You could add injured blade master, cruel taskmaster, and that ghoul taunt to make copies. Then heal them and mill them. If someone has made this deck before could someone tell me the finished product.
***** Well it was worth a try. Thank you ,The Dude.
+Dylan Johnston cruel taskmaster is a warrior class card mate
Gibba1992 Like I said no expert. What about this as a guideline
Sir finley Mrrgglton
unstable ghoul
lightwell
patron warrior,
holy champion
explosive sheep
injured Blademaster,
circle of healing
resurrect
mad bomber
madder bomber
Holy Nova
Light of the Naaru
Power word : shield
And maybe Velen's Chosen
+Dylan Johnston just letting you know pal. It certainly seems like an interesting deck idea that you should experiment with. I would suggest some clerics for draw as well
Gibba1992 You can just call me Dylan, and I am thinking of getting Hearthstone the game. I started watching Trump to see if this is a good game. If you play ,your welcome to take my idea ; just let me know what the finished product is. Have a great day today. :-)
what changes would you make to the renolock?
He should have inner raged arcane golem at the end, increases the odds, or am I wrong? He needed exactly 4 dmg...
the last game :D
always lucky ahaha
kripp has his respectful rights for the phrase pretty good
Trump I tried playing this deck at around rank 5 and was not able to climb that well because I couldn't get Grommash when I needed him or the Mage hero power from Sir Finley. Please help with my luck!!
It is all about being asian
+amram amselem The trick is to be never lucky, that way you'll end up always lucky because it would be unlucky to be lucky.
4:54 if both boom bots hit Grom for 4.
Were some lost matches removed? Suddenly from Legend 66 to Legend 162 :(
+Håkon K These videos are heavily edited. Some games are removed and large parts of the turns are cut considering trump ropes literally every turn. Recent theory I have is that he actually ranks up to legend by just roping everybody to the point of them not caring about the game anymore.
Could be that he took a break after hitting legend. I think your rank in legend can change without you playing since there's a set number of spots in legend (not 100% on that last one, confirmation would be appreciated).
+Håkon K I think he ended stream when he got legend, and then started again the next day with the same deck, having lost some legend ranks overnight.
+Håkon K The rankings will change even when you're not playing since it's decided with a hidden rating value. Other players keep playing in the meantime, meaning more legend players as the month goes on with some getting a better rating.
Early in the season it's not unusual to win a game, but actually have a lower legend rank afterwards. Since so many other players are entering legend rank.
+Håkon K check the time. His last rank 1 match was at 2:16, whereas his first legend match was at 4:54. He took a break and dropped some ranks during that time without playing, since legend ranks work like a dynamic leaderboard
What card can replace grim patron in this deck? /s
4:40
hoped for double boom bot grammosh for 8 Damage xDD
Anyone notices how the videos are more updated? They used to be 1 week and a half old.
Legend 66 -> Feels good to get legend on such a high rank. -> Next game is already at 162
who is jens person i keep hearing about and or whats their channel?
+Mark Soto Jens is the amazing editor on this channel, i'm not sure what their original one was called though.
+SuperiorInfadel it's jnZaneHD :)
The person who edits Trump's videos.
Wasn't that hunter silentstorm?
Is dread corsair really good? I find senjin/elise much better
+drak45kd no it's not good
It costs 0 or 1 mana most of the time, unlike these others you mentioned
i was mistaken, it can fit into weapon decks, i thought it was "cost one less per use of weapon" so nvm, play around with it, if it wins games or makes board presence that wins games, use it
It's good because it is a 1 Mana or 0 Mana taunt in the best case. Other than that it's pretty mediocre.
any replacement for gromash?
+Daniel Lewandowski warsong commander
+Daniel Lewandowski
i did put in leeroy jenkins for it, rest of the deck is the exact same
Darude - Sandstorm
Magma Rager
+Daniel Lewandowski I don't have Gromash either, I use ragnaros.
whid did it pass from rank legend 66 to rank legend 162?
he ended the stream when he hit legends , and in the night he was demonted to that rank...
sorry for my bad english....
+Polec Vlad thanks!
i have a challenge for you guys. Build a deck around Oasis SNapjaw!
+Still Breathing It's called inner fire priest.
+Richard wang even then death lord is better
+Zack Oasis Snapjaws don't summon a ragnaros for your opponent.
+Still Breathing If you somehow get houndmaster on it... it is pretty good... too bad it is still a really slow card which is bad in hunter if you want to be aggressive (and it is rather useless on it's own which is a problem because hunter usually don't have much card draw)
That last play he should have inner raged the arcane golem rather than Dr.Boom. It's basically gambling one boom-bot would hit for 4 vs. two hitting for 6.
How does the legend system work? Like why'd he start legend at rank 66
+YiYi The Wuster Everyone who is legend is basically 1 step up from rank 1, it isn't a new ladder. He had been on a winning streak, and beaten some people with a fairly high master rank on the final stretch, so when he finally got into master rank it ranked him very high. If you had lost 5 games but won 7 on your way to master, and only beaten people ranks 1 or 2 or low masters, you would enter master rank with a lower number.
Replace for grommash ?
Can anyone tell me ?
+Sirapat Samransamruajkit loatheb
It's a win condition, no good replacement
King Krush Kappa
You got legend at 66...show me the match you cut out between the final boss and your first legend match!!
Did blizzard remove grim patron from the game
Nevermind
+D Garrison no
@3:40 "this looks very grim right now." Well excuse me, your playing a Grim Patron deck, everything is gonna look grim.
Olha eu õ/ maldito de top deck
Quem mandou não jogar em volta do top deck Kappa
Does anyone know where I can buy battle net prepaid cards?
+The Spy Who Cried Medic I've seen them in Target by the PC games before.
Game stop
Best Buy
I've actually seen them at Walgreen's and CVS
+Dvoid Poopsy it's funny because I went to my local walgreens only to find out it was out of business
Lol i never catch vids this early
ever since i started watching strife's vids, trump has been lackluster. i really don't know if he could be worse at explaining high level choices. I don't have in the deck because i don't think i need it! wow, no shit? great circular logic there.
+Linkman95 If you watch his vids, you will see that he is asked this question about every 5 minutes. Not only is it repetitious, it is annoying and somewhat insulting.
Day[9} for example, who puts his deck together in a much more slap-dash fashion, has lately been saying, "No suggestions or question without suggesting or questioning what you'd remove first".
+Linkman95 I think it's because he's tired of answering the same questions over and over when people can simply click on the FAQ on his streams. The FAQ goes pretty in depth.
+Caleb B Agreed. It's my impression that Trump tends to answer questions with the same thoughtfulness as the person asking the question.
Before you ask a question, think about whether or not Trump's deck structure answers your question on its own (i.e. should i substitute x for y; if you have x, no, trump has x because x is better). Also consider if your question is too simple or self-evident to be worth answering (i.e. what should i play to rank up? play what you're best at, or play what Trump is currently streaming). Finally, consider if your question is complex or meta-sensitive enough to ask Trump as opposed to consulting a winrate list or decklists (i.e. if the current meta continues, what shifts do you expect to see in the popular decks/what counterdecks are likely to dominate the meta?)
I've seen Trump answer a lot of good questions, but he also ignores or chides a bunch of lazy questions. A lot of the time it seems like he wants to teach his viewers to think about their choices rather than just ask him to make the choice for them.
What other reason would you not play something?
That's because Trump answers these kinds of questions like 5 times a day and after the second time it gets wildly irritating. Most questions are literally just there so Trump reacts to the person and the person can feel special about it. Like meeting your favorite Hollywood actor and asking him some dumb thing like "what's your favorite colour" because you couldn't think of something but desperately crave the attention. Trump puts a lot of thought into serious questions, but "why is card X not in this deck" only has a handful of answers "too slow, not impactful enough, doesn't combo well or just is unnecessary"
I don't understand why you don't save an inner rage for Grom
+Meatshovel Vids please try to be more specific. This applies to every match in the video.
he kept using inner rage on the grim patrons. if you save one for gromm he has 12 attack instead of 10. I always do that anyway
+Meatshovel Vids Because a lot of the time, using the inner rage means he is able to get 4 patrons on the board instead of 2, if he plays it all out from hand. 4 patrons is, with some exceptions, the magic number that keeps the opponent from removing them all, or so it has seemed from Trump's games. In comparison, 2 measly attack is not that important.
Good to save it for just in case anyway. There are a lot of triggers for grim patron. Two more points of damage make Gromm that much scarier. ( btw it it's grom MASH not grom mish. Grammar Nazi!!)
Anyone else notice that he got rank 66 at the end of the mage match, then the very next game he's rank 162? That means he didn't show one match. Unless I'm mistaking in that legend 1 is the best you can get, then that means he DOES in fact only upload his wins most of the time.
Who wouldn't?
He ended the stream on his rank 66 game, and then played some games without recording and dropped in rank is all
You actually raise your chances at winning on average using the inner rage on the arcane golem instead of Dr. Boom, since you just need both bombs to deal 3-4 damage, which is about 50%. Otherwise you're hoping the bomb hitting face for 4 damage if the other bomb hits the golem. That said, it worked out better using the Inner Rage on Boom this time since the Hunter would've been left at 1.
0:00 trump conta gamerFAS representando os BR
Thank you Trump for getting me to Route 66, I've been much happier than now.
I'm her because I clicked the hat :3
and here I am barley able to sneak by 20... god I suck at this game...
+Korvas you probably dont have many cards to make a decent deck beyond basic only right?
+Auron710 you can usually make it to around rank 15 with mostly basic cards before you really just cant climb anymore.
I think it's a combination of not having a lot of cards, and not knowing how to best use the cards I do have.
Korvas well unlike dota or league etc ur not gna get flamed or shit talked in hearthstone. u can always look up deck builds with what u do have (if theres a site where u can list cards and it shows which decks u can actually make i would like to know cus when i check im always missing like 5% of the deck). And also just learn from ur mistakes, take ur time to think about each play and theres no rush. Nobody was instantly good unless they came from another game, everyone had to learn at some point is what i mean. Just dont feel stupid and have fun with tweaking a deck that works for how u like to play (aggression / control / early game etc)
66 to 162 what happened?
Wow, I never would have considered hitting face instead of the Arcane golem there wp by Trump
What deck did trump say is tourny worthy? I heard Liaise mez snap trap rofl
+ThatGuyWithThePhace
"Just look at the current meta snapshot." Or something like that.
I want to see Trump play some of the raptor deathrattle deck.
why is it so quiet
So early. Much comment. Wow.
Didn't greet back
Barbarian
1:11 Amaz 6-3 in arena
like a week or so ago trump said patron warrior is the best deck in a video :P now he plays it and says its probably renolock XD
4:53 imagine if boombots both hit grom for 4... Twitch chat would riot and trump would shout "Why!!!!!" forever.
perfect bombs
I want to remind you that trump said reno lock was a bad version of handlock now he calls it a 'best deck'
Cuz its like handlock except it doesnt get screwed by face decks
+Edzter Technically it is, it just so happens that reno is such a good card that you can afford running a worse deck.
Will you do a trump teaches control priest
Rogar stonecrusher
:D
almost every deck needs ragnaros
If only the boom bots hit grommash for 8
"What percentage of the game is based on luck, rather than skill?"
well...if you are lucky, it's mostly based on skill. :P
What's with this weird echo? :(
+psykopyro result of having a microphone and speakers in an untreated room.
over 8k boyz Kappa
Wait, after Trump brags about going into legend at 66 rank, next second he drops to 162. Did people advance past him that fast?
Can i be top comment please
No
+ingenanelse1 stfu
4th
"im not going to armor up first because I could naturally draw into stuff", having no way of drawing any cards unless you want to slam your own minion that you just played. which he did not
He could have gotten tap. So he could have naturally draw into stuff. I think that's what he meant, but I don't know
Doceinstein he could still have drawn and played nearly half his deck because most of his minions cost 5 or less unless he wanted to grommash, which he still wouldn't have mana for, patron + whirlwind maybe, but the odds are pretty low
trump and the control factory...condescending trump...seems good kappa
I don't see why you can't answer these questions in a non-condescending fashion. Just tell people why it's good in the deck it's in. Saying it's good because you run it doesn't explain anything.
cant stump the trump
Spoilers much
84th
had to switch to control priest because there is way to many patron warriors now. i blame trump -___-
+Johnathan Hale Why? Control priest is great fun and an exploitable meta is good for your win rate.
switch to reno handlock if you dont like control priest :D
+ficolas2 I decided it's easier just to become the enemy 👌
lets keep cancerinos out of trumps comment section
#Trump2016 #NotThatTrump #NeverThatTrump
Trump, trying to bring back the warrior cancer
how does trump tell if he won or not right before?
+Ofordgabings the hero power loses its green outline since you can't play anything after he's dead
Experience
After an action, available actions are highlighted green. After whirlwind, his hero power didn't glow which meant the game was over.
+Creations Not true about the end turn button. The end turn button only turns green when there are no other actions left. Since he still had mana leftover and hero power wasn't used, it wouldn't have turned green even if he didn't win.
+OfficialGeneratorX You are correct, thanks
never hit legend :(
NeverLucky