Honestly, such a perfect way to describe it, and it's amazing. It's literally right on point when you say the games have "hope" and the movies just follow this cliché "how long can you survive" scenario. Ironically it also feels much more realistic with how actual undead viral outbreaks would be handled, unless it was airborne infections it is nearly impossible to go to dangerous levels of infection that can be considered an apocalypse. And as far as these corporate titles go, they are only using the Resident Evil name for recognition while never even paying respect to what made the name recognizable to begin with, in simple words, they just don't know what IS Resident Evil, or maybe they just don't care, probably both.
It’s so such a fucking shame because George Romero actually understood the games and could’ve given a solid adaptation if Capcom didn’t put on their fucking dumbass caps.
"If Capcom stopped making these games forever as of tomorrow, we could rest easy knowing that our heroes won in the end." This is ultimately a philosophical issue, and you see it with Alien, a franchise the Resident Evil films are heavily influenced by. One of the reasons Alien 3/Resurrection are somewhat more polarizing is that they take the perceived happy ending of Aliens where the Xenos are defeated and Ripley and Newt and Hicks return home to Earth, and destroys that dream. Newt and Hicks are killed offscreen, and Ripley is impregnated and doomed. That's one of the reasons Becky and Jill and the others die offscreen in Resident Evil: The Final Chapter. To drive Alice into despair and hopelessness just like Ripley was in Alien 3. (It's why the cop-out ending they tacked on where she wakes up after deploying the AV doesn't really work thematically. She was meant to die originally. It completes her arc.)
Um... you are aware Alien 3 ends on a bitter high note with Ripley sacrificing herself into the Fiorina 161 furnace and destroying the last Xenomorph from Acheron in the process, right? If they stopped there (and they should've), we can rest easy knowing that Ripley has ended the threat and the Earth is saved... until the expanded AVP universe by people like Dark Horse and Rebellion happens but that's another kettle of fish. Bringing up Alien 3 and comparing it to Resident Alice because "DEY KEELED HIX & NOUT!" makes no sense when you consider the ending for 3 is a bitter victory at its finest.
@@NebLleb Oh wow, a main character that doesn't get killed. You're right, that's awful. But besides that, the only REAL problem with that game is the s*tty AI that was programmed by a moron who made a typo. Graphics for the era? Good. Plot? Good. And like always with Aliens, it end on a freaking cliffhanger where the evil corporation is still kicking. The game Colonial Marines didn't deserved that much hatred.
Most companies don't WANT to understand anything because they went from a passionate dream for entertainment to "just gimme your money" and we reached to a "watch it or else your ..." And now they're begging for the fans to return
It's the small things that really matter. You know something is a quality product when you can go back to it and realise how important small things, like the element of hope you brought up here, really is.
I didn't think a worse adaptation of Resident Evil after the Anderson movies was possible, and then Netflix came along and asked me to hold their beer.
@Gibram R Yeah that's why I have problems with it. It's the only one I'd call outright bad (which is a shame because it's the first time we get to see Rebecca in such a long time). All the other CG stuff is mostly fine though.
@gibramrivera8863 Vendetta is nowhere near as bad the live action movie don’t even pretend, the Anderson films have permanently fucked up the mainstream perception of RE. Vendetta’s action is more RE6-esque in terms of carnage but I care about the characters and love seeing Leon and Chris team up so it gets a pass.
Whenever I hear someone say "how is that game resident evil? There's no zombies" then I know that person doesn't understand resident evil The series was never ONLY about zombies
An adaption of RE1 is easy as it's just a "Haunted House" movie, They could merge both scenarios and make a 90 - 120 min movie that flows easily. RUclipsrs have done it with the REmake
I think that’s been a big reason the films haven’t hit their mark. They are all treated like action films when that’s just not what they tonally should be. I’d kill to see a horror/suspense RE1 film.
What's so frustrating about the RE adaptations is that the stories in the games are so cinematic in nature to begin with. They're tailor-made for adaptation to other media. But you're right, the global zombie apocalype trope/trap is what ultimately undoes every adaptation attempt thus far. That claustrophobic survival horror feel which is present through all of the mainline games is largely missing because, instead of it being one or two characters going into or escaping from an outbreak area, we get a ragtag band of survivors trying to live out their lives in a postapocalyptic world.
they still can do out real in small town. it just Capcom want virus fall into terrorist hand and sold in black market who h is pretty realistic unlike every zombie movie lore which they told about what happened behind the scene
@ATProductions96After watching the Last of Us show tho, it’s clear you just need be competent. I mean REC is already a RE movie when you think about it.
The really important question is, where do they get all the hack writers from? It's an adaptation of a video game with quite obvious characters, mood and action. It really shouldn't be THAT hard.
@@jesuisunstroopwafel That would be actually nice. But about every adaptation made it backwards. Instead of taking the og and build it up meaningfully, they think of something completely new and add the og to it.
Yes! This is what I hate most about the Resident Evil movie series and Netflix series, the games are NOT based on a zombie apocalypse story. This shows they have no idea what the series is about and the survival horror themes of it. As soon as saw in the Netflix series trailer that it was based on that I rolled my eyes and I wasn't interested.
I legitimately forgot that _Resident Evil_ Netflix series exists, and while I would have liked to have kept it that way, I am glad to hear it was cancelled given how bad I heard it was. It honestly wouldn't have surprised me to learn if it had gotten a second season given something as bad as _Emily in Paris_ did, though I imagine that _Paris_ trash was/is more marketable and mainstream in general for various reasons even with zombies having been done to (un)death for over a decade now.
They're trying too hard to satisfy Walking Dead fans, social justice warriors and Resident Evil fans. And the latter is the afterthought. The most recent movie Welcome To Raccoon City is a great example of it.
An apocalypse, or at least a looming one, can work as the grand finale. RE6 basically did that with so many major parts of the world being infected and throwing the world into chaos near the end of the various campaigns, but we then had the day saved and stability restored. If everything did go to hell in an RE game, it'd only likely happen in the final installment, where even if humanity was saved and the viruses were cured/wiped out, the series would end on that note because you can't raise the stakes above the entire world being thrown into turmoil. With the Anderson films, the buffoon stretched the apocalypse across like four films, unable to decide if the severity of the situation meant the world was a bland desert or just lacked a stable civilization.
So for fun, I recently started trying to adapt my own RE screenplay (went back and forth whether to make it a film series or tv series and ended up choosing the latter) and I will be the first to admit it’s sooo much harder than it looks lol there’s definitely a balance when trying to keep it as faithful to the games while also trying to keep it fresh and original to that unique adaptation. I hope we’ll be able to see an amazing film/tv adaptation someday 😊
for first adaptation, you doesn't need to do fresh takes or new spin for the screenplay. what you need it's great dialogue and character growth. in future, if there's a plans of remake. this is where new spin and fresh takes of the screenplay is needed. looks how RE 1 vs RE1make did. that's how you properly do screenplay
Personally, I would love to see RE4 adapted as a mini series that takes place over four long episodes, the first being Leon in the village dealing with the Ganados, ending with him and Ashley getting to the castle, the second being his adventures in the castle ending with him meeting up with Ada at the boat, the third having him deal with Krauser, and the fourth being the fight with Saddler and escaping on the Jet Ski. I don't think they would do it, but it's still cool to think.
Every outbreak in Resident Evil games seems localized (even RE6 which moves city to other cities the virus spread just in that place then over) when the movies, the virus spread ultimately forced into global scale :/
Wait, is "Walking dead" still going? I remember watching it when I was starting high school and giving up after 3 seasons because it got boring and repetitive, I can't even imagine what they've been doing for eight years after that.
I have the perfect episodic format in my head. Each episode could cycle between what character is doing what while wondering the mansion. It needs real suspense and grounded so it makes zombies scary again. Blasting through zeds like Arnold makes it not scary at all.
@@calemr 😂 Exactly! Switch between A&B scenarios then towards the end of the season have episode Burton, Episode Wesker, Episode Alpha Team etc. before tying it all together. The games are one big pre-made story board. I think fans understand that some things in games wont work in film but Jesus they haven’t even adapted the things that will work seamlessly.
@@phantomliger89 Yeah, but there's adapting a game to a movie, then there's doing something completely different while still calling it 'Resident Evil'.
I don't think even Capcom gave a crap. They just let these Hollywood people meet with them and say "Pay us and you can do whatever you want with our game franchise".
You're one of the few that hit the nail right on the head here. That's what it basically boils down to, even Capcom started to take the similar route to the films during the development of RE 4-6 with it's action sequences.
Exactly. The world of the games has never gotten to the point of an apocalypse so why the Anderson films and Netflix show were set in one I don't know.
@@Siegram999It’s sad but Hollywood types rarely take deep looks into anything. Which is so many RE adaptations take iconography from the games but nothing else.
Resi could've been one of the best video game adaptations on the planet. Premise is simple, and all Hollywood had to do is simply adapt _that_ aspect. Alas, when Hollywood thinks of zombies, they think of world wide outbreaks because stupid reasons.
Completely agree, this was my own thought as i was watching anderson movies. Hell, not only the conclusion rejects any idea of hope, you kinda dont want these people to survive anyway because THEY dont really care about each other. Theyre constantly fighting with each other or making fun of each other or call each other expletives and can only ever give a backhanded compliment, at most. I do not think "wow alice is so cool because shes so flippant and uncaring". I think "wow this sucks, i want so bad to see a single drop of human emotion squeezed out of that rock". But its not just alice, its everyone. I legitimately missed the "jill sandwich" writing bc despite the stupid stuff, the main thing RE characters are, is kind and caring. Barry saves Jill no matter how Wesker manipulates him. Ada helps Leon even though that's in direct contradiction to her mission. Humanity shines thru them and you realize how theyd be able to save the world because theyre innately good, if a bit mischievous at times. Basically the world wide conflict of the games vs adaptations reflects that of the interpersonal relationships of characters themselves. In one, theres hope and belief in the good, in the other, its pure cynicism.
It's sad because a love-action adaptation of Resident Evil could be incredible! Absolutely incredible! It would be talked about more than the Walking Dead franchise. Unfortunately, some people are only familiar with the Paul Anderson movies. It's sad because the Resident Evil is rich with story and it has alot of emotional weight as well. Don't get me wrong, it had some hiccups along the way, however Capcom knows how to learn and fix their mistakes and improve on their content! 🙏🏽💪
It's incredible how League of Legends has a better adaption than Resident Evil. Yes I know its because Riot was involved, but if Capcom were involved in making a faithful adaption it would be an incredible slam-dunk. Sad, Resident Evil and Bioshock are begging for good adaptions
@@nemesisstars1527 to be honest the first movie with mila wasn't that bad, silent hill was overall better but not by much, it's mostly the kind of horror that makes it better, jsut like the sh games are better at horror than re games
@@Sercroc yeah but alice was never a real character in the games and such unlike rose and Christopher from silent hill which we’re based off Harry and Harry’s wife except the wife didn’t die in the movie even though their first names we’re changed also their step daughter having a different name than the game but same person, first resident evil movie could never beat the first silent hill movie because of its flaws like I’ve already mentioned alice not being a thing, the other girl was supposed to be the lead, when ya think about it from the games though yoko was the one that had her memory wiped not alice and I think yoko would of been better in a movie since she’s a real character and would of had a better role with possibly hunk, still enjoyed resident evil though for being the best resident evil live action so far just have to hope a faithful adaptation comes along and gets all the characters right without alice involved this time, if it’s done right with the casting and everything everyone will want to watch it more
@Nemesis Stars I mean to be fair, Rose is Harry, and Sean Beans character would be the made up one, retroactively made into Harry in the sequel. Both movies do the same thing having characters non existent in the games and you're just making a difference because you like one series vs not liking the other series. And they also tried this with the movie last year and people overall still didn't enjoy it much.
EXACTLY. I have my own misgivings about the directions most of the main games after 4 take, namely 5 & 6 (Resident Evil is NOT an action seinen anime about badass warriors killing monsters) and especially Village (They followed up the best plot in the series since 3: Nemesis with a ridiculous supernatural horror that wrecked the lore, rules and rendered everything all for nought), but as bad as those directions are... At least the incidents were still localised and were mostly acts of bio-terrorism. Hollywood execs don't get that Resident Evil isn't a zombie apocalypse franchise and that it's a franchise about monsters in general (though zombies ARE the ones you encounter the most often in the pre-4 days). When you have the zombies take over the world, you miss that point and things become generic and bland.
For me the RE series is 1) RE1 2) RE2 3) RE3 4) RE CV 5) Umbrella's End from Umbrella Chronicles I HATE how RE4 pretty much went "Umbrella? oh yeah they're gone"
@@Jiren261 Who in their right mind doesn't? Oh, well. All the more reason why I think VII has the best post-4 plot: It's standalone and doesn't try ignore/retcon plot details.
@Gibram R "duuurr 5 & 6 features the characters and the creatures come from viruses, therefore they're more Resident Evil than VII, duuuurr" Just stop. You 5 & 6 apologists are the absolute worst.
three act stories need to come back. Beginning middle ending, and when possible, a happy ending. Not everyone has a happy life so some kind of cheer would be nice.
Great point about the endings in the games vs the movies. I got sick of Walking Dead after season 3 because there was no hope and everyone dies. It's super dark and depressing. Meanwhile, most of the RE games have the hopeful escape by helicopter into the sunset endings. I reread The Umbrella Conspiracy by S.D. Perry recently, great read and highly recommend it.
Why can they never just take the original story, and then NOT fuck with it? Cut out some backtracking and filler stuff, choreograph some fights, expand the dialogue a little, done. This applies to many, Many other game adaptations. I know games like Sonic can be a little thin on plot and need some original writing, but Resident Evil has a long and expansive story that can Easily be adapted provided you have the money. We KNOW it works. People loved the animated Street Fighter movies that stayed largely closer to the source material, and the live action ones are considered to be a joke. Mortal Kombat was widely liked, and that was closer than most, still keeping a lot of the core beats and trying to represent Most of the characters accurately. (And where they, EG: Made the ninjas villains, it made sense due to the otherwise heavily one-sided nature of the story otherwise, that would lead to most fights being good VS good.) And oh look, the new Mortal Kombat didn't follow the games at all, and people hated it. Just. Copy. The. Original. P.S. also this can apply to other works, I'd like to give a very heartfelt "Fuck you" to everyone behind the movies of Artemis Fowl and Percy Jackson, and Especially to the fucking Ghouls behind the The Watch series (Who waited for Sir Terry Pratchett to die because he was making mandates to try and keep it accurate).
I feel like the franchise has reached such widespread recognition, most producers assume they can inject whatever themes in order to tell their story, and hope it continues to associate with fans . When in reality, the franchise became so popular for its zany and convoluted universe that introducing any concepts outside of it’s core genre, like Action-Adventure Alice or real world events like COVID. These concepts actually detach the franchise from its core premise. It would be like trying to insert Earth into Star Wars after the franchise has made it so far without ever having to consider such preposterous concepts. Rather innovating new genres like the Mandalorian or Rogue One, that are still set apart from the mainline story, but still fit within the overall universe.
Hollywood still doesn't know the 3 directives: Isolation, Confinement and Extermination, and instead it's Hopelessness, Corruption pandering and Mary Sue syndrome.
I was thinking this once the last show dropped. The whole point of Resident Evil is that they're always on the brink of an apocalypse. Once it happens, all I think of is how a ton of my favorite characters must obviously be dead, and if not then they certainly failed. RE is just a crazy horror version of every action movie where the hero comes out on top, having the end of the world is like having the Terminator succeed...
0:26 THANK YOU! I noticed that exact fucking thing, it's like they don't understand this isn't a Zombie Apocolypse story. It's actually what makes RE pretty unique from most other Zombie Media.
FINALLY!someone who understands that the whole point of the games is about bio weapons and not a apocalypse,now all we need is for people to understand that re4 and re 5 DOESNT have zombies at all and that the plagas dont limit your motor functions at all.
At the very least the writers for Welcome to Racoon City made sincere attempts to use the story and material from the games rather than just taking a couple names and jamming them wherever they could fit them. I’m not crazy about some of the things that were skipped or changed but it was at least moderately enjoyable and had some legitimate effort put into it.
problem is he can pick one story than cramming everything in one movie. i don't think producer knew about the lore of the games so obviously it's director himself the one who cramming all those things
This video could and maybe should have been 3 times as long. The outbreak is a great point, but that's just scratching the surface! Hollywood still doesn't understand the RE characters either! Or the lore.
There was a lot wrong with Welcome to Racoon City... But the thing that really killed it was trying to make games 1, 2, and 3 into a so for movie... Imagine if it had been a lord of the rings trilogy epic
I want respect WTRC for trying, but it’s worst of both worlds just making the story more of a mess than a actual games and screw up the characters along the way.
Something that wasn't mentioned was the stakes are higher in each game because they are preventing the outbreak from spreading. Players are invested because they want the protagonists to win. In the movies the outbreak spreads anyways so it seems as if the protagonists don't have an effect on the outcome and there are no real stakes anymore because the apocalypse already happened.
Another thing is that it's easier to like a story if you have several different likable characters who are awesome in specific ways. Then the movie made it so only the leading character gets shit done and the others are just there to fill in screen time.
I never expected any of the Hollywood execs who saw this as a cash cow to have ever played any of them. From the first movie where they decided to retcon characters just to give their (all of them) good attributes to a new character that was designed for Milla.
To me the main problem is that they misunderstand the main concept. In Resident Evil, the zombies and viruses aren't a global threat that humanity need to band together to fight. They are weapons. They are used for terror again and again. You can swap the zombies entirely and give umbrella and all the other companies nukes and the story would stay largely the same. In the movies however they treat it like the walking dead. Full on apocalypse everyone is dead, humanity collapsed.
I think another pro of the Resident Evil games being smaller scale means that there is more time to focus on individual characters and fewer loose ends that needs to be tied up by the end of the story. The most global game in the RE franchise is RE6, it that games there are bio terror attacks in the United States, Europe, and China, and that games story is kind of a mess partly because it was so over reaching with its story. RE1 took place in a mansion with like 20 zombies total in the entire game, RE7 is a bit more action focused than RE1, but that game takes place in a closed off estate with maybe a total of 80 or so enemies in the entire game, with a majority of those enemies appearing in the final stretch of that game. You don't need something super massive and grand to make a proper Resident Evil story.
The games are about stopping the outbreaks, or surviving long enough to see them stopped. The movies revolve around surviving after nothing is able to stop the outbreak. The latter sounds edgier, but the former actually intuitively offers higher stakes. If film characters fail - they will die in a progressively bleaker world. If game characters fail - the world will die.
As you say, the issue is once you go full post apocalyptic, there is no going back from that. The continued problems with RE onscreen, don't fill me with confidence over the upcoming Silent Hill 2 based film.
I believe they understand but just want to do their own version, the Alice RE series can be somewhat faithful but it feels like someone's fanfict of RE. And that's how it is to all live action adaptation. They have the source material but they want to do their own version while doing a half ass job at respecting the source material. And if you have a problem with it there's gonna be people that say "it's a different continuity so it's ok, not everything has to be accurate, maybe it's not for you, go back to your old stuff if you don't like the change.
@@Ergeniz that's their problem when they have an idea something similar to an already existing property they can't help but attach the popular brand because they don't have faith in their original project so the only solution is to slap the name on it to try and bait people in the hopes of people liking it regardless how they treat the source material. In other words they cant help but leech off of an existing brand because they cant survive on their own.
It's insane they can't get this right. It's so simple a set up for a movie. Send a group of cops with likeable personalities into a scary Mansion in the woods, full of zombies and monsters with them trying to survive while also uncovering the truth about Umbrella. It's so easy yet they consitantly screw it up.
see thats what ramaro got right on his resident evil script. he didn't try to rewrite the story or redefine it he took the blueprints and followed them. he got that the first game was a locked door horror story and that's what he did he made a locked door horror script
@ATProductions96Not too many, Chris is a civilian sure whatever, it still got the tone right and you only have to look at his RE2 commercial to know he gets it.
I thought Welcome to Raccoon City was the closest we got to a proper Resident Evil/Resident Evil 2 movie. It still wasn't the best movie but it was a lot closer than the Wes Anderson films.
The thing about not making it an apocalypse is that you get to tell unique stories about B.OW.s. I know they are contraversial but 5, 6, and both Revelation games are some of my favorite RE games! And while none of them have great plot, the outline of terrorists using B.O.W.s for very political means like they would any other weapons of mass destruction is actually interesting! Far more than a post-apocalyptic world! At world fighting back against its own sci-fi devastation and the heroes that fight for it! They could change the stories, the characters, add in terrible plot-twists, and as long as it keeps that focus and theme it would still be really good and way different from almost all other zombie stories.
Hence why the third movie was the first one I actually disliked and refuse to buy on home media. Luckily (or unluckily) they seem to reset continuity at the start if each film so from 3 onwards it became clear that you could pick and choose the one you want ti watch and not really lose anything. The 3rd one jumped the shark and also became a cliched zombie apocalypse, and the final Anderson movie was unbelievably bad, so I'm never gonna rewatch those two. The rest range from ok to enjoyable. But the really insulting thing was that everyone was pinning their hopes on Welcone to Raccoon City to fix the decades long mess, and it ended up being just as bad.
I’d love for a REmake movie thats an atmospheric horror mystery film that ramps up into an action movie just like how the games ramp up towards the end
I think what annoys me most about the films not following the games is that RE1, especially Remake already has the template for a fantastic horror movie. A spooky house thriller with worse horrors around each corner and a gloomy, morbid backstory about how Spencer manipulated the Trevor family into helping him create a stronghold for these genetic abominations and test the viruses that created them. It’s eerie, it’s suspenseful, it’s intriguing in the most unnerving way. Why haven’t we gotten a movie based on RE1 yet?
It's a shame that the 2021 movie, which was a disappointing adaptation, is the only one that was the most faithful adaptation that didn't do the world apocalypse. That Romero movie not happening is one of the worst decisions Hollywood made.
Hell even House of the Dead for how similar it is to Reaident Evil until House of the Dead 3 was still decent with its own series. And that is because House of the Dead 4 and Scarlet Dawn are prequels to the third installment.
Welcome to Racoon City was still pretty bad. But it could've been good had it not just slapped character names onto generic action heroes, smashed two different stories together, and drenched it in fan service and assets directly ripped from that game that they somehow still didnt get right! It could've been a really good video game tie-in movie. They already used assets and ideas from the games, but I think focusing the story on different characters in Racoon City at the beginning of the Outbreak could've been really fun.
Well the fundamental problem is the RE games have never been plot heavy. So adapting that into a narrative medium presents inherent challenges. How do you adapt puzzles into plot beats? A movie can throw a thousand crimson heads at the protagonist, but if you're not playing as them, the only way you can care about the story is if you care about the characters. So either Capcom won't let writers flesh out pre-existing characters, or (in my opinion) there hasn't been a writer willing to put much thought into writing a believable film version of Chris, Jill, etc.
I think the thing with RE's characters is that fans love them and a decent enough film adaptation would just need to make them cool and likeable. Idk that you need that much depth coz at the end of the day RE is about horror and action, it's not a character study. I think the RE CG films, as corny as they sometimes get, are great fun coz they nail what we love about all the characters.
@@anarchohelenism exactly, I don't think RE needs movies tbh. I don't really need a 'believable' Chris or Jill either, they're hardened badasses in an insane universe full of biological horrors. They just need to be uber-capable and charismatic as hell. The CGI films are fun diversions that add to the craziness of the RE lore. Imo those are all you really need, just to fill in the margins between the games.
@@gman7497 I’d love animated series though that can show Jill, Chris and co in moments where they aren’t fighting. That’s something Castlevania did super well.
My idea is to do Resident Evil as a TV series but really based on the games: RESIDENT EVIL: Season 1: Zero/The Beginning Based on Zero/ RE 1 Season 2: The City of The Dead Based on RE 2 Season 3: Nemesis Based on RE 3 Season 4: The Village Based on RE 4
The Netflix creators of that RE series are watching The Last of Us like "wait, we just had to make the show exactly the same and people would like it??" 😂 yes.
I forced myself to watch the whole live-action Netflix series, and the mediocrity of it makes the Anderson films far more tolerable, which is quite the accomplishment of being in a new level of shit.
What’s a shame is that back in 1998 there was a Cancelled attempt to make a Resident Evil movie exactly like the first game by Capcom and directed by George A Romero. It’s a shame that version didn’t happen because George Romero would be a perfect fit to do a movie like that.
The problem with these adaptations is that they are not made by people who love or understand Resident Evil. We all hope for a better adaptation sometime in the future but my only hope is that they get someone who loves and understands Resident Evil. I take Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings trilogy as a example of someone loving and understanding an IP and making a movie out of it because they love that IP and want to share it to other people. That is what a new Resident Evil movie adaptation needs to do next time.
@@monkeybone1080 yeah but imagine this. what if George romero rewrote another script but way decent looking what we not expected to see but less accurate representation
If you are interested in the Romero version, my team and I have an approved documentary that delves not only into the public information, but we are interviewing those that were involved. It's been... enlightening, to say the least.
I think there’s hope now that The Last of Us recently came along and showed Hollywood how to do a VG adaptation right. Maybe Sony can take that formula and finally do Resident Evil justice, though I’m not expecting that anytime soon, if ever.
But this runs into the same problem explained in the video. Last of Us and RE are entirely different in tone and themes. LoU is a zombie apocalypse with no real hope for the future (because... spoilers) while RE is a small story of heroes conquoring evil. If they try to adapt RE in the same vein as LoU, it will result in the same garbage we had before. Last of Us is basically The Walking Dead, but with fewer characters. The setting and themes are exactly the same.
The director would give us a watered down version of RE4, but if he focused on a CV film, it could possibly work as its only one storyline, and can have Chris, Claire, and Wesker in it. But knowing him, he’d probably bring every character in it and fuck it up
AW MAN! That bit about using pre-existing media's names to sell unrelated scripts was so good that I made a Clip out of it! And that closing remark about Hollywood feeling like they can do better by not doing their assignment is something I've been saying for so long! That Romero comment was depressing, though...
What makes RE so good beyond the gameplay or the story or the characters is the fact that it is not just a zombie franchise. It wouldn't have lasted this long if it was just about zombies.
The problem is that they are greedy, they don't WANT this story to have an end. It has to go on forever and ever, endless sequels and seasonal renewals until it has been milked dry. They don't want to tell a story with "setup, development, conclusion", they want to even tease a possible conclusion, they just want endless escalation. Though they say "I make real art" they are not interested in art at all, they think "art" means "political meaning" rather than a personal or emotive meaning. They don't care what kind of individual Jill or Barry or Wesker is, they only care how they are a political allegory for a demographic in their trite morality play. The audience cannot relate to any of them as individuals, only how they represent a class of people who don't have deep similarities.
In fact they should take everything great from the games, spin-offs novels, comics, lore, and CGI films then combine them into a *show* not a movie written by someone who understands Resident Evil, it's that easy.
@@Raccon_Detective. i disagree, if you removed puzzle solving and back tracking. you can do 2 hours 30 minutes of resident evil movies. in my brain, i can imagine - RE 0 only need 2 hours, - RE 1 only need 2 hours, - RE 2 need 2 hours and 30 minutes, - RE 3 need 2 hours - RE 4 need 2 hours and 30 minutes - RE 5 need 2 hours and 30 minutes - RE 6 need 2 hours and 30 minutes - RE 7 need 2 Hours - RE 8 need 2 hours 30 minutes
@@boboboy8189 But there's also so much more going on behind the scenes that the games don't show us, the games make it very clear that a lot happens outside the games themselves. For example a dude once told me why can't they make a show where Marvin is the main character after the events of RE1 and the month leading up to the events of EE2 as the T-virus slowly spreads through Raccoon city.
As much as welcome to raccoon city was accurate to base material it’s the most blasphemous of them all-because of that. My biggest turnoff was the fact that I thought Jogia was a neat choice for Leon, if they gave him the right hair make up…and then we got Jogia and Kaya Scodelario’s scowl topped off with no pony tail.
Not only that, it would have been better if Resident Evil: Welcome To Raccoon City adapts the first game's plot first rather than putting in the middle of the plot of the 2nd game. That way, Resident Evil Welcome To Raccoon City would have been a better movie.
Hollywood as of recent doesn’t understand a lot of things.
true. and said can be say about the others that Hollywood up.
Like consent
Common human nature for one...
How to make a good movie, age of consent laws, human rights, Hollywood doesn’t seem to understand or have any respect for these things
*as of always
Honestly, such a perfect way to describe it, and it's amazing. It's literally right on point when you say the games have "hope" and the movies just follow this cliché "how long can you survive" scenario. Ironically it also feels much more realistic with how actual undead viral outbreaks would be handled, unless it was airborne infections it is nearly impossible to go to dangerous levels of infection that can be considered an apocalypse. And as far as these corporate titles go, they are only using the Resident Evil name for recognition while never even paying respect to what made the name recognizable to begin with, in simple words, they just don't know what IS Resident Evil, or maybe they just don't care, probably both.
It’s so such a fucking shame because George Romero actually understood the games and could’ve given a solid adaptation if Capcom didn’t put on their fucking dumbass caps.
"If Capcom stopped making these games forever as of tomorrow, we could rest easy knowing that our heroes won in the end." This is ultimately a philosophical issue, and you see it with Alien, a franchise the Resident Evil films are heavily influenced by. One of the reasons Alien 3/Resurrection are somewhat more polarizing is that they take the perceived happy ending of Aliens where the Xenos are defeated and Ripley and Newt and Hicks return home to Earth, and destroys that dream. Newt and Hicks are killed offscreen, and Ripley is impregnated and doomed. That's one of the reasons Becky and Jill and the others die offscreen in Resident Evil: The Final Chapter. To drive Alice into despair and hopelessness just like Ripley was in Alien 3. (It's why the cop-out ending they tacked on where she wakes up after deploying the AV doesn't really work thematically. She was meant to die originally. It completes her arc.)
Um... you are aware Alien 3 ends on a bitter high note with Ripley sacrificing herself into the Fiorina 161 furnace and destroying the last Xenomorph from Acheron in the process, right? If they stopped there (and they should've), we can rest easy knowing that Ripley has ended the threat and the Earth is saved... until the expanded AVP universe by people like Dark Horse and Rebellion happens but that's another kettle of fish.
Bringing up Alien 3 and comparing it to Resident Alice because "DEY KEELED HIX & NOUT!" makes no sense when you consider the ending for 3 is a bitter victory at its finest.
Hicks is alive if the game "Colonial Marines" is canon.
@@wargamesmaster Dude. Colonial Marines is a retcon-laden shitfest and Hicks surviving was one of the worst retcons in that game.
@@NebLleb Oh wow, a main character that doesn't get killed. You're right, that's awful.
But besides that, the only REAL problem with that game is the s*tty AI that was programmed by a moron who made a typo.
Graphics for the era? Good. Plot? Good. And like always with Aliens, it end on a freaking cliffhanger where the evil corporation is still kicking.
The game Colonial Marines didn't deserved that much hatred.
@@wargamesmaster We also end up fighting more droids than Xenomorphs😢
"Hollywood Doesn't Understand Resident Evil"
More like Hollywood doesn't understand ANYTHING nowadays.
They understand money.
@@LadyOfTheEdits And tokenism
@@KingKong-dq6kj Like force awakens. I really thought Fin was the main character in the beginning:(
Most companies don't WANT to understand anything because they went from a passionate dream for entertainment to "just gimme your money" and we reached to a "watch it or else your ..." And now they're begging for the fans to return
They understand what they are doing, they simply don't care.
Disregard hollywood, embrace the capcom CGI movies where chris and leon gun-fu zombies and rebecca wears a wedding dress.
Rebecca is my waifu in that movie
Blade Wesker was still so bad it was hilarious.
**He is soooooo..... BLACK! get it!?** Dx
Yeah. At least have the character being blonde. I could ignore his skin tone. But motherf'n Wesker that isn't blonde is weird
Blade wesker can't hurt me right?
Blade Wesker isn't real, he can't hurt you
@@quynhanhsasori8938 well. Hurt our feeling i suppose
It's the small things that really matter. You know something is a quality product when you can go back to it and realise how important small things, like the element of hope you brought up here, really is.
I didn't think a worse adaptation of Resident Evil after the Anderson movies was possible, and then Netflix came along and asked me to hold their beer.
It makes appreciate the CG RE stuff more, yeah it’s weird and would be better in 2D, but oh man is it better than the live action shit.
@@li-limandragon9287 The CG stuff is alright actually. The only one I have serious problems with is RE Vendetta.
@Gibram R Yeah that's why I have problems with it. It's the only one I'd call outright bad (which is a shame because it's the first time we get to see Rebecca in such a long time). All the other CG stuff is mostly fine though.
@@tylertheguy3160 I didn’t mind Vendetta except for the bit where Leon killed all those people on a highway.
@gibramrivera8863 Vendetta is nowhere near as bad the live action movie don’t even pretend, the Anderson films have permanently fucked up the mainstream perception of RE.
Vendetta’s action is more RE6-esque in terms of carnage but I care about the characters and love seeing Leon and Chris team up so it gets a pass.
Whenever I hear someone say "how is that game resident evil? There's no zombies" then I know that person doesn't understand resident evil
The series was never ONLY about zombies
agree.
tyrant, licker, giant snakes, giant spider, Mr X, nemesis. none of this zombies. sadly those people who fans of OG games missing this point
An adaption of RE1 is easy as it's just a "Haunted House" movie, They could merge both scenarios and make a 90 - 120 min movie that flows easily.
RUclipsrs have done it with the REmake
You know what. That's an excellent way to put it.
I think that’s been a big reason the films haven’t hit their mark. They are all treated like action films when that’s just not what they tonally should be. I’d kill to see a horror/suspense RE1 film.
Hollywood doesn't understand alot of things now.
Always love it when Snake does a Resi episode I could listen to him talk about Resident Evil all day
Me too!
What's so frustrating about the RE adaptations is that the stories in the games are so cinematic in nature to begin with. They're tailor-made for adaptation to other media. But you're right, the global zombie apocalype trope/trap is what ultimately undoes every adaptation attempt thus far. That claustrophobic survival horror feel which is present through all of the mainline games is largely missing because, instead of it being one or two characters going into or escaping from an outbreak area, we get a ragtag band of survivors trying to live out their lives in a postapocalyptic world.
they still can do out real in small town. it just Capcom want virus fall into terrorist hand and sold in black market who h is pretty realistic unlike every zombie movie lore which they told about what happened behind the scene
I've been wanting a faithful Resident 1 adaptation for years, but Hollywood always doing shit
**THEY HAD ONE CHANCE WITH 2021 WELCOME TO RACCOON CITY MOVIE AND MADE LEON AN IDIOT!!!! GAWD!!**
Even capcom dont anymore...
In my opinion Arkley would have been the most faithful to resident evil tv/series that has been pitched but sadly never happened.
@@seabookfarno8656 they made him as unlikeable as possible
@ATProductions96After watching the Last of Us show tho, it’s clear you just need be competent. I mean REC is already a RE movie when you think about it.
The really important question is, where do they get all the hack writers from? It's an adaptation of a video game with quite obvious characters, mood and action. It really shouldn't be THAT hard.
I always think that the game developers should be a part in making a film adaptation based of their own games.
The problem is video game adaptations are seen primarily as a cash cow. Not for their potential artist merit.
"I can improve the source material."
@@jesuisunstroopwafel Yep. That's a big part of the problem too.
@@jesuisunstroopwafel That would be actually nice. But about every adaptation made it backwards. Instead of taking the og and build it up meaningfully, they think of something completely new and add the og to it.
When people ask me why I hate the RE movies, your comment about how the games still have "hope" is my new go to answer.
**THEY HAD ONE CHANCE WITH 2021 WELCOME TO RACCOON CITY MOVIE AND MADE LEON AN IDIOT!!!! GAWD!!**
Yes! This is what I hate most about the Resident Evil movie series and Netflix series, the games are NOT based on a zombie apocalypse story. This shows they have no idea what the series is about and the survival horror themes of it. As soon as saw in the Netflix series trailer that it was based on that I rolled my eyes and I wasn't interested.
If hollywood dont now about RE what hollywood know about ather movies? (Bourn identity, 007, X-Men, and menny ather)
I legitimately forgot that _Resident Evil_ Netflix series exists, and while I would have liked to have kept it that way, I am glad to hear it was cancelled given how bad I heard it was. It honestly wouldn't have surprised me to learn if it had gotten a second season given something as bad as _Emily in Paris_ did, though I imagine that _Paris_ trash was/is more marketable and mainstream in general for various reasons even with zombies having been done to (un)death for over a decade now.
Hollywood does not understands video games. It's not rocket science , just stay faithful.
Because 99% of Hollywood doesn't play video games.
It seems to me that Resident Evil is not about the apocalypse, it’s about canceling the apocalypse.
Great quote, great film
it's always been
They're trying too hard to satisfy Walking Dead fans, social justice warriors and Resident Evil fans. And the latter is the afterthought. The most recent movie Welcome To Raccoon City is a great example of it.
“I make real art, Hollywood bullshit.”
Damn, went straight for the nuts there lol
An apocalypse, or at least a looming one, can work as the grand finale. RE6 basically did that with so many major parts of the world being infected and throwing the world into chaos near the end of the various campaigns, but we then had the day saved and stability restored. If everything did go to hell in an RE game, it'd only likely happen in the final installment, where even if humanity was saved and the viruses were cured/wiped out, the series would end on that note because you can't raise the stakes above the entire world being thrown into turmoil. With the Anderson films, the buffoon stretched the apocalypse across like four films, unable to decide if the severity of the situation meant the world was a bland desert or just lacked a stable civilization.
and they manage to contained it. that's where you missing the point. i just watch people playing that game and it's ended with hope.
@@boboboy8189
I didn't miss anything, I literally said the day was saved in RE6.
So for fun, I recently started trying to adapt my own RE screenplay (went back and forth whether to make it a film series or tv series and ended up choosing the latter) and I will be the first to admit it’s sooo much harder than it looks lol there’s definitely a balance when trying to keep it as faithful to the games while also trying to keep it fresh and original to that unique adaptation. I hope we’ll be able to see an amazing film/tv adaptation someday 😊
for first adaptation, you doesn't need to do fresh takes or new spin for the screenplay. what you need it's great dialogue and character growth.
in future, if there's a plans of remake. this is where new spin and fresh takes of the screenplay is needed. looks how RE 1 vs RE1make did. that's how you properly do screenplay
Personally, I would love to see RE4 adapted as a mini series that takes place over four long episodes, the first being Leon in the village dealing with the Ganados, ending with him and Ashley getting to the castle, the second being his adventures in the castle ending with him meeting up with Ada at the boat, the third having him deal with Krauser, and the fourth being the fight with Saddler and escaping on the Jet Ski. I don't think they would do it, but it's still cool to think.
I don’t think Hollywood will ever understand resident evil because they keep messing everything up
Jesus. I haven't heard Snake this brutal since the MK11 critique.
Hollywood may never understand anything for as long as they live.
Every outbreak in Resident Evil games seems localized (even RE6 which moves city to other cities the virus spread just in that place then over) when the movies, the virus spread ultimately forced into global scale :/
Wait, is "Walking dead" still going? I remember watching it when I was starting high school and giving up after 3 seasons because it got boring and repetitive, I can't even imagine what they've been doing for eight years after that.
It ended in late 2022 I think
@@Delta21OnYT that's right. Season 11 I believe
That’s what I love about the games, there’s always normal life happening somewhere else in the world.
I have the perfect episodic format in my head. Each episode could cycle between what character is doing what while wondering the mansion.
It needs real suspense and grounded so it makes zombies scary again. Blasting through zeds like Arnold makes it not scary at all.
There it is, everyone: How to adapt Resident Evil! Just use the plot of the games!
Why is this so fucking hard for executives to understand?
@@calemr 😂 Exactly!
Switch between A&B scenarios then towards the end of the season have episode Burton, Episode Wesker, Episode Alpha Team etc. before tying it all together. The games are one big pre-made story board.
I think fans understand that some things in games wont work in film but Jesus they haven’t even adapted the things that will work seamlessly.
@@calemr because at that point, just play the game. Adapting something is part of being a different medium.
@@phantomliger89 Yeah, but there's adapting a game to a movie, then there's doing something completely different while still calling it 'Resident Evil'.
I don't think even Capcom gave a crap. They just let these Hollywood people meet with them and say "Pay us and you can do whatever you want with our game franchise".
You're one of the few that hit the nail right on the head here. That's what it basically boils down to, even Capcom started to take the similar route to the films during the development of RE 4-6 with it's action sequences.
I'm actually working on a Resident Evil script right now and found this video to be very useful. Thanks for posting it!
Exactly. The world of the games has never gotten to the point of an apocalypse so why the Anderson films and Netflix show were set in one I don't know.
Bc zombies go brrr
cause apparently the games aren't interesting enough
@@Siegram999It’s sad but Hollywood types rarely take deep looks into anything. Which is so many RE adaptations take iconography from the games but nothing else.
Resi could've been one of the best video game adaptations on the planet. Premise is simple, and all Hollywood had to do is simply adapt _that_ aspect. Alas, when Hollywood thinks of zombies, they think of world wide outbreaks because stupid reasons.
Completely agree, this was my own thought as i was watching anderson movies. Hell, not only the conclusion rejects any idea of hope, you kinda dont want these people to survive anyway because THEY dont really care about each other. Theyre constantly fighting with each other or making fun of each other or call each other expletives and can only ever give a backhanded compliment, at most. I do not think "wow alice is so cool because shes so flippant and uncaring". I think "wow this sucks, i want so bad to see a single drop of human emotion squeezed out of that rock". But its not just alice, its everyone.
I legitimately missed the "jill sandwich" writing bc despite the stupid stuff, the main thing RE characters are, is kind and caring. Barry saves Jill no matter how Wesker manipulates him. Ada helps Leon even though that's in direct contradiction to her mission. Humanity shines thru them and you realize how theyd be able to save the world because theyre innately good, if a bit mischievous at times.
Basically the world wide conflict of the games vs adaptations reflects that of the interpersonal relationships of characters themselves. In one, theres hope and belief in the good, in the other, its pure cynicism.
RE3make is bad because they make Jill badass but missing likable traits of OG Jill. OG Jill felt like a real character
It's sad because a love-action adaptation of Resident Evil could be incredible! Absolutely incredible! It would be talked about more than the Walking Dead franchise. Unfortunately, some people are only familiar with the Paul Anderson movies. It's sad because the Resident Evil is rich with story and it has alot of emotional weight as well. Don't get me wrong, it had some hiccups along the way, however Capcom knows how to learn and fix their mistakes and improve on their content! 🙏🏽💪
It's incredible how League of Legends has a better adaption than Resident Evil. Yes I know its because Riot was involved, but if Capcom were involved in making a faithful adaption it would be an incredible slam-dunk. Sad, Resident Evil and Bioshock are begging for good adaptions
Yeah and silent hill puts resident evil to shame since that did better with sticking true to the source material 😂
@@nemesisstars1527 to be honest the first movie with mila wasn't that bad, silent hill was overall better but not by much, it's mostly the kind of horror that makes it better, jsut like the sh games are better at horror than re games
@@Sercroc yeah but alice was never a real character in the games and such unlike rose and Christopher from silent hill which we’re based off Harry and Harry’s wife except the wife didn’t die in the movie even though their first names we’re changed also their step daughter having a different name than the game but same person, first resident evil movie could never beat the first silent hill movie because of its flaws like I’ve already mentioned alice not being a thing, the other girl was supposed to be the lead, when ya think about it from the games though yoko was the one that had her memory wiped not alice and I think yoko would of been better in a movie since she’s a real character and would of had a better role with possibly hunk, still enjoyed resident evil though for being the best resident evil live action so far just have to hope a faithful adaptation comes along and gets all the characters right without alice involved this time, if it’s done right with the casting and everything everyone will want to watch it more
@Nemesis Stars I mean to be fair, Rose is Harry, and Sean Beans character would be the made up one, retroactively made into Harry in the sequel. Both movies do the same thing having characters non existent in the games and you're just making a difference because you like one series vs not liking the other series.
And they also tried this with the movie last year and people overall still didn't enjoy it much.
EXACTLY. I have my own misgivings about the directions most of the main games after 4 take, namely 5 & 6 (Resident Evil is NOT an action seinen anime about badass warriors killing monsters) and especially Village (They followed up the best plot in the series since 3: Nemesis with a ridiculous supernatural horror that wrecked the lore, rules and rendered everything all for nought), but as bad as those directions are... At least the incidents were still localised and were mostly acts of bio-terrorism.
Hollywood execs don't get that Resident Evil isn't a zombie apocalypse franchise and that it's a franchise about monsters in general (though zombies ARE the ones you encounter the most often in the pre-4 days). When you have the zombies take over the world, you miss that point and things become generic and bland.
7 and 8 are a copy of silent hill they should be new games with new names not part of the resident evil series
@@missmeme3946 No they're not.
For me the RE series is
1) RE1
2) RE2
3) RE3
4) RE CV
5) Umbrella's End from Umbrella Chronicles
I HATE how RE4 pretty much went "Umbrella? oh yeah they're gone"
@@Jiren261 Who in their right mind doesn't? Oh, well. All the more reason why I think VII has the best post-4 plot: It's standalone and doesn't try ignore/retcon plot details.
@Gibram R "duuurr 5 & 6 features the characters and the creatures come from viruses, therefore they're more Resident Evil than VII, duuuurr"
Just stop. You 5 & 6 apologists are the absolute worst.
Makes me wonder how John Woos Metroid movie would've turned out if it was actually made.
three act stories need to come back.
Beginning middle ending, and when possible, a happy ending. Not everyone has a happy life so some kind of cheer would be nice.
Great point about the endings in the games vs the movies. I got sick of Walking Dead after season 3 because there was no hope and everyone dies. It's super dark and depressing. Meanwhile, most of the RE games have the hopeful escape by helicopter into the sunset endings. I reread The Umbrella Conspiracy by S.D. Perry recently, great read and highly recommend it.
Why can they never just take the original story, and then NOT fuck with it? Cut out some backtracking and filler stuff, choreograph some fights, expand the dialogue a little, done.
This applies to many, Many other game adaptations. I know games like Sonic can be a little thin on plot and need some original writing, but Resident Evil has a long and expansive story that can Easily be adapted provided you have the money.
We KNOW it works. People loved the animated Street Fighter movies that stayed largely closer to the source material, and the live action ones are considered to be a joke.
Mortal Kombat was widely liked, and that was closer than most, still keeping a lot of the core beats and trying to represent Most of the characters accurately. (And where they, EG: Made the ninjas villains, it made sense due to the otherwise heavily one-sided nature of the story otherwise, that would lead to most fights being good VS good.)
And oh look, the new Mortal Kombat didn't follow the games at all, and people hated it.
Just. Copy. The. Original.
P.S. also this can apply to other works, I'd like to give a very heartfelt "Fuck you" to everyone behind the movies of Artemis Fowl and Percy Jackson, and Especially to the fucking Ghouls behind the The Watch series (Who waited for Sir Terry Pratchett to die because he was making mandates to try and keep it accurate).
I'm glad you uses the re5 menu theme
Oh my god someone finally put it into words.
I feel like the franchise has reached such widespread recognition, most producers assume they can inject whatever themes in order to tell their story, and hope it continues to associate with fans .
When in reality, the franchise became so popular for its zany and convoluted universe that introducing any concepts outside of it’s core genre, like Action-Adventure Alice or real world events like COVID. These concepts actually detach the franchise from its core premise.
It would be like trying to insert Earth into Star Wars after the franchise has made it so far without ever having to consider such preposterous concepts. Rather innovating new genres like the Mandalorian or Rogue One, that are still set apart from the mainline story, but still fit within the overall universe.
Hollywood still doesn't know the 3 directives: Isolation, Confinement and Extermination, and instead it's Hopelessness, Corruption pandering and Mary Sue syndrome.
I was thinking this once the last show dropped. The whole point of Resident Evil is that they're always on the brink of an apocalypse. Once it happens, all I think of is how a ton of my favorite characters must obviously be dead, and if not then they certainly failed. RE is just a crazy horror version of every action movie where the hero comes out on top, having the end of the world is like having the Terminator succeed...
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THANK YOU! I noticed that exact fucking thing, it's like they don't understand this isn't a Zombie Apocolypse story. It's actually what makes RE pretty unique from most other Zombie Media.
FINALLY!someone who understands that the whole point of the games is about bio weapons and not a apocalypse,now all we need is for people to understand that re4 and re 5 DOESNT have zombies at all and that the plagas dont limit your motor functions at all.
SWAT team in a mansion with zombies and creatures. Is that really so hard?
The best adaption will be the Japanese commercial for Resident Evil 2.
my man just open my eyes and destroy my childhood memory :")
Nice to see someone crediting welcome having the same vibe as the games, and at least it was funny incompetent
At the very least the writers for Welcome to Racoon City made sincere attempts to use the story and material from the games rather than just taking a couple names and jamming them wherever they could fit them. I’m not crazy about some of the things that were skipped or changed but it was at least moderately enjoyable and had some legitimate effort put into it.
problem is he can pick one story than cramming everything in one movie. i don't think producer knew about the lore of the games so obviously it's director himself the one who cramming all those things
This video could and maybe should have been 3 times as long. The outbreak is a great point, but that's just scratching the surface! Hollywood still doesn't understand the RE characters either! Or the lore.
I agree. Everyone I know was waiting for the Netflix series saying, "please don't be another Zombie apocalypse, please don't be a- oh. It is."
There was a lot wrong with Welcome to Racoon City... But the thing that really killed it was trying to make games 1, 2, and 3 into a so for movie... Imagine if it had been a lord of the rings trilogy epic
I want respect WTRC for trying, but it’s worst of both worlds just making the story more of a mess than a actual games and screw up the characters along the way.
Something that wasn't mentioned was the stakes are higher in each game because they are preventing the outbreak from spreading. Players are invested because they want the protagonists to win. In the movies the outbreak spreads anyways so it seems as if the protagonists don't have an effect on the outcome and there are no real stakes anymore because the apocalypse already happened.
Another thing is that it's easier to like a story if you have several different likable characters who are awesome in specific ways. Then the movie made it so only the leading character gets shit done and the others are just there to fill in screen time.
Especially in the horror media the idea of multiple characters surviving is considered insane where they’re supposed to be for the chopping block.
I never expected any of the Hollywood execs who saw this as a cash cow to have ever played any of them. From the first movie where they decided to retcon characters just to give their (all of them) good attributes to a new character that was designed for Milla.
I mean Anderson did play the games and Milla (not being great at games) watched someone play through. I believe her brother.
Milla should be Jill but Anderson want every movie have Jill as main character is the biggest problem
I don’t think Hollywood understands video games period.
To me the main problem is that they misunderstand the main concept. In Resident Evil, the zombies and viruses aren't a global threat that humanity need to band together to fight. They are weapons. They are used for terror again and again. You can swap the zombies entirely and give umbrella and all the other companies nukes and the story would stay largely the same. In the movies however they treat it like the walking dead. Full on apocalypse everyone is dead, humanity collapsed.
I think another pro of the Resident Evil games being smaller scale means that there is more time to focus on individual characters and fewer loose ends that needs to be tied up by the end of the story. The most global game in the RE franchise is RE6, it that games there are bio terror attacks in the United States, Europe, and China, and that games story is kind of a mess partly because it was so over reaching with its story. RE1 took place in a mansion with like 20 zombies total in the entire game, RE7 is a bit more action focused than RE1, but that game takes place in a closed off estate with maybe a total of 80 or so enemies in the entire game, with a majority of those enemies appearing in the final stretch of that game. You don't need something super massive and grand to make a proper Resident Evil story.
The games are about stopping the outbreaks, or surviving long enough to see them stopped. The movies revolve around surviving after nothing is able to stop the outbreak.
The latter sounds edgier, but the former actually intuitively offers higher stakes.
If film characters fail - they will die in a progressively bleaker world.
If game characters fail - the world will die.
Been saying this for decades! THANK YOU!!!
As you say, the issue is once you go full post apocalyptic, there is no going back from that. The continued problems with RE onscreen, don't fill me with confidence over the upcoming Silent Hill 2 based film.
Whats sad is that RE has everything you need for a zombie film series and to be successful… but that’s to easy.
I believe they understand but just want to do their own version, the Alice RE series can be somewhat faithful but it feels like someone's fanfict of RE. And that's how it is to all live action adaptation. They have the source material but they want to do their own version while doing a half ass job at respecting the source material. And if you have a problem with it there's gonna be people that say "it's a different continuity so it's ok, not everything has to be accurate, maybe it's not for you, go back to your old stuff if you don't like the change.
My problem with that is: "Why even bother using the license at that point then"? Just make their own IP.
@@Ergeniz that's their problem when they have an idea something similar to an already existing property they can't help but attach the popular brand because they don't have faith in their original project so the only solution is to slap the name on it to try and bait people in the hopes of people liking it regardless how they treat the source material. In other words they cant help but leech off of an existing brand because they cant survive on their own.
It's insane they can't get this right. It's so simple a set up for a movie. Send a group of cops with likeable personalities into a scary Mansion in the woods, full of zombies and monsters with them trying to survive while also uncovering the truth about Umbrella.
It's so easy yet they consitantly screw it up.
I think resident evil in movie form should be more of a slower paced mystery movie with horror elements like the first game
see thats what ramaro got right on his resident evil script. he didn't try to rewrite the story or redefine it he took the blueprints and followed them. he got that the first game was a locked door horror story and that's what he did he made a locked door horror script
@ATProductions96Not too many, Chris is a civilian sure whatever, it still got the tone right and you only have to look at his RE2 commercial to know he gets it.
I thought Welcome to Raccoon City was the closest we got to a proper Resident Evil/Resident Evil 2 movie. It still wasn't the best movie but it was a lot closer than the Wes Anderson films.
The thing about not making it an apocalypse is that you get to tell unique stories about B.OW.s. I know they are contraversial but 5, 6, and both Revelation games are some of my favorite RE games! And while none of them have great plot, the outline of terrorists using B.O.W.s for very political means like they would any other weapons of mass destruction is actually interesting! Far more than a post-apocalyptic world! At world fighting back against its own sci-fi devastation and the heroes that fight for it! They could change the stories, the characters, add in terrible plot-twists, and as long as it keeps that focus and theme it would still be really good and way different from almost all other zombie stories.
Hence why the third movie was the first one I actually disliked and refuse to buy on home media. Luckily (or unluckily) they seem to reset continuity at the start if each film so from 3 onwards it became clear that you could pick and choose the one you want ti watch and not really lose anything. The 3rd one jumped the shark and also became a cliched zombie apocalypse, and the final Anderson movie was unbelievably bad, so I'm never gonna rewatch those two. The rest range from ok to enjoyable. But the really insulting thing was that everyone was pinning their hopes on Welcone to Raccoon City to fix the decades long mess, and it ended up being just as bad.
I’d love for a REmake movie thats an atmospheric horror mystery film that ramps up into an action movie just like how the games ramp up towards the end
I think what annoys me most about the films not following the games is that RE1, especially Remake already has the template for a fantastic horror movie. A spooky house thriller with worse horrors around each corner and a gloomy, morbid backstory about how Spencer manipulated the Trevor family into helping him create a stronghold for these genetic abominations and test the viruses that created them. It’s eerie, it’s suspenseful, it’s intriguing in the most unnerving way. Why haven’t we gotten a movie based on RE1 yet?
Because of le puzzles. That's it.
It's a shame that the 2021 movie, which was a disappointing adaptation, is the only one that was the most faithful adaptation that didn't do the world apocalypse. That Romero movie not happening is one of the worst decisions Hollywood made.
1:30 I keep trying to explain this to people as this is my main issues with the movies
Hollywood doesn't understand movies in general really
Hell even House of the Dead for how similar it is to Reaident Evil until House of the Dead 3 was still decent with its own series. And that is because House of the Dead 4 and Scarlet Dawn are prequels to the third installment.
Welcome to Racoon City was still pretty bad. But it could've been good had it not just slapped character names onto generic action heroes, smashed two different stories together, and drenched it in fan service and assets directly ripped from that game that they somehow still didnt get right!
It could've been a really good video game tie-in movie. They already used assets and ideas from the games, but I think focusing the story on different characters in Racoon City at the beginning of the Outbreak could've been really fun.
Well the fundamental problem is the RE games have never been plot heavy. So adapting that into a narrative medium presents inherent challenges. How do you adapt puzzles into plot beats? A movie can throw a thousand crimson heads at the protagonist, but if you're not playing as them, the only way you can care about the story is if you care about the characters. So either Capcom won't let writers flesh out pre-existing characters, or (in my opinion) there hasn't been a writer willing to put much thought into writing a believable film version of Chris, Jill, etc.
I think the thing with RE's characters is that fans love them and a decent enough film adaptation would just need to make them cool and likeable. Idk that you need that much depth coz at the end of the day RE is about horror and action, it's not a character study. I think the RE CG films, as corny as they sometimes get, are great fun coz they nail what we love about all the characters.
@@gman7497 why even make a movie then, just watch "Resident Evil all enemies compilations" on youtube for 2 hours
@@anarchohelenism exactly, I don't think RE needs movies tbh. I don't really need a 'believable' Chris or Jill either, they're hardened badasses in an insane universe full of biological horrors. They just need to be uber-capable and charismatic as hell.
The CGI films are fun diversions that add to the craziness of the RE lore. Imo those are all you really need, just to fill in the margins between the games.
@@gman7497 I’d love animated series though that can show Jill, Chris and co in moments where they aren’t fighting. That’s something Castlevania did super well.
My idea is to do Resident Evil as a TV series but really based on the games:
RESIDENT EVIL:
Season 1: Zero/The Beginning
Based on Zero/ RE 1
Season 2: The City of The Dead
Based on RE 2
Season 3: Nemesis
Based on RE 3
Season 4: The Village
Based on RE 4
The Netflix creators of that RE series are watching The Last of Us like "wait, we just had to make the show exactly the same and people would like it??" 😂 yes.
I forced myself to watch the whole live-action Netflix series, and the mediocrity of it makes the Anderson films far more tolerable, which is quite the accomplishment of being in a new level of shit.
What’s a shame is that back in 1998 there was a Cancelled attempt to make a Resident Evil movie exactly like the first game by Capcom and directed by George A Romero.
It’s a shame that version didn’t happen because George Romero would be a perfect fit to do a movie like that.
i thought that they were going to reuse it for the recent live action but nooooooooooo
but Leon is farmers according to Romero's script
@@boboboy8189 there were some inaccuracies here and there, but most of the script was faithful to the game
@@boboboy8189 Chris not Leon
Funny how simple the resident evil storyline and narrative is, and yet one can consider it unadaptable.
The problem with these adaptations is that they are not made by people who love or understand Resident Evil. We all hope for a better adaptation sometime in the future but my only hope is that they get someone who loves and understands Resident Evil. I take Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings trilogy as a example of someone loving and understanding an IP and making a movie out of it because they love that IP and want to share it to other people. That is what a new Resident Evil movie adaptation needs to do next time.
According to MUSICAL BIOHAZARD: Song of Gaia stageplay produced by Capcom, the world does eventually end up in an apocolypse.
RE8's ending goes further in the timeline and proves that false.
I agree with the title but i can say that welcome to racoon city was the closes to getting the game.
George Romero would have been the one to direct. I honestly wish what the movie would look like if he wasn't fired by capcom
Ink Ribbon actually covered the script of that film and belive me when I say, the RE movie we got was FAR better than what Romero wanted to do.
@@monkeybone1080 yeah but imagine this. what if George romero rewrote another script but way decent looking what we not expected to see but less accurate representation
@@monkeybone1080 and no alice this time
If you are interested in the Romero version, my team and I have an approved documentary that delves not only into the public information, but we are interviewing those that were involved. It's been... enlightening, to say the least.
I think there’s hope now that The Last of Us recently came along and showed Hollywood how to do a VG adaptation right. Maybe Sony can take that formula and finally do Resident Evil justice, though I’m not expecting that anytime soon, if ever.
But this runs into the same problem explained in the video. Last of Us and RE are entirely different in tone and themes. LoU is a zombie apocalypse with no real hope for the future (because... spoilers) while RE is a small story of heroes conquoring evil. If they try to adapt RE in the same vein as LoU, it will result in the same garbage we had before. Last of Us is basically The Walking Dead, but with fewer characters. The setting and themes are exactly the same.
The director would give us a watered down version of RE4, but if he focused on a CV film, it could possibly work as its only one storyline, and can have Chris, Claire, and Wesker in it. But knowing him, he’d probably bring every character in it and fuck it up
AW MAN! That bit about using pre-existing media's names to sell unrelated scripts was so good that I made a Clip out of it! And that closing remark about Hollywood feeling like they can do better by not doing their assignment is something I've been saying for so long! That Romero comment was depressing, though...
my issues with every zombie movie is not real conclusion. it's like MCU movies
What makes RE so good beyond the gameplay or the story or the characters is the fact that it is not just a zombie franchise. It wouldn't have lasted this long if it was just about zombies.
The problem is that they are greedy, they don't WANT this story to have an end. It has to go on forever and ever, endless sequels and seasonal renewals until it has been milked dry. They don't want to tell a story with "setup, development, conclusion", they want to even tease a possible conclusion, they just want endless escalation. Though they say "I make real art" they are not interested in art at all, they think "art" means "political meaning" rather than a personal or emotive meaning. They don't care what kind of individual Jill or Barry or Wesker is, they only care how they are a political allegory for a demographic in their trite morality play.
The audience cannot relate to any of them as individuals, only how they represent a class of people who don't have deep similarities.
If they want to use the games, they should use the Novels.
In fact they should take everything great from the games, spin-offs novels, comics, lore, and CGI films then combine them into a *show* not a movie written by someone who understands Resident Evil, it's that easy.
@@Raccon_Detective. i never fans of any shows. my jam is movies
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It's just that Resident Evil is too long to be a made into a movie just like most games.
@@Raccon_Detective. i disagree, if you removed puzzle solving and back tracking. you can do 2 hours 30 minutes of resident evil movies.
in my brain, i can imagine
- RE 0 only need 2 hours,
- RE 1 only need 2 hours,
- RE 2 need 2 hours and 30 minutes,
- RE 3 need 2 hours
- RE 4 need 2 hours and 30 minutes
- RE 5 need 2 hours and 30 minutes
- RE 6 need 2 hours and 30 minutes
- RE 7 need 2 Hours
- RE 8 need 2 hours 30 minutes
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But there's also so much more going on behind the scenes that the games don't show us, the games make it very clear that a lot happens outside the games themselves.
For example a dude once told me why can't they make a show where Marvin is the main character after the events of RE1 and the month leading up to the events of EE2 as the T-virus slowly spreads through Raccoon city.
They never seemed to even be trying.
As much as welcome to raccoon city was accurate to base material it’s the most blasphemous of them all-because of that. My biggest turnoff was the fact that I thought Jogia was a neat choice for Leon, if they gave him the right hair make up…and then we got Jogia and Kaya Scodelario’s scowl topped off with no pony tail.
Not only that, it would have been better if Resident Evil: Welcome To Raccoon City adapts the first game's plot first rather than putting in the middle of the plot of the 2nd game. That way, Resident Evil Welcome To Raccoon City would have been a better movie.