I’m in a time where I’ve been facing suffering after sudden suffering. Wondering why God would allow such things to happen to me. I was following God, then out of the blue disasters struck. It feels like he left me alone in this pit, and the only hope I had for myself was to knuckle down and be stronger in my own strength. Lo, and behold another disaster came and kicked me right back down. Through all of this I kept asking why God would allow such things to happen now, when previously they didn’t. I’ve read Job, and it has touched my heart. Like was said in the video I also was like “poor Guy” to Job. I can see I’ve adopted a posture of a skeptic many times whenever I come to God. My joy and love for him has diminished because of this skeptical attitude. I’m going to try praying and fasting. I just wish I could get back everything that was taken from me, that I worked so hard for! Please pray for me
Suffering forces us to know if we love God because He is our Savior, or if we love Him because our life here on earth is good. I suffer too from terrible pain. Have you read Foxe’s Book of Martyrs? It’s helpful to me:)
@@RaptureReadyPam amen. This is a powerful statement that is also a hard pill to swallow for us Christians. Suffering really is a pulse check for our faith in the promises of God. Suffering well is so incredibly difficult in this life. But I am inspired by my brothers and sisters who have suffered like I have, and perservered. And so often, under worse conditions.
We are all going through times of testing & suffering where we have doubts & ask God why. I lost my mom & a nephew, a good friend all in the last 2 years & my dear friend just lost her husband & we had the funeral last week. All of that among many other trials while I cared for my mom in a nursing home the last 5 yrs., especially during Covid. If you are truly saved & have God's Spirit w/in you, He will not let you go. I have had many deaths in my family in the last 6 yrs & I left a church I attended for nearly 18 yrs. because of spiritual abuse & a pastor who was arrested twice for drunk driving. I lost many friends because when you left, people disowned you & the pastor said not to have contact w/anyone who left. I am in a place where I am going back to the beginning & reading the One Year chronological Bible to see who God really is for myself & learning to trust Him for who He says He is. I think in the modern day version of Christianity, we're fed a bill of goods about how wonderful God wants to make all of our lives & gives us great success & fulfill our dreams. That just isn't true. We will have times of suffering because that is what builds our faith & causes us to trust in God. It tests us & tries us & causes us to see what we really believe & do we have a deep abiding faith in God. God is drawing us to Himself in spite of ourselves. Don't give up & seek forgiveness. God will not abandon you if you are truly His & trust in Him. Seek Him with all of your heart & you will find Him.
@@barbs1298 Thank you for sharing how you have suffered. You’ve been through a lot. I think it’s wonderful you’re reading through the Bible on your own to get to know Christ better. It is so helpful to me to stay close to His Word. I have known this scripture, but never understood a personal experience of terrible suffering, so it had little meaning. These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.” Now, it has lots of meaning!
@@RaptureReadyPam Thank you for your kind reply. My life has known a lot of pain & suffering, but God has often shown His mercy & grace to me. The peace I am now working on after my mom's passing last Feb. which was so very difficult for me after caring for her the last 5 yrs of her life. Thank God we have His Word. We must make it personal to us as opposed to always depending on a pastor or someone else to do that. Far too many Christians go to church on Sunday & may crack a Bible there to hear 1 verse & go home & never pick it up again. I became disillusioned. I want to see it again w/a fresh insight as to who God is. These days we live in are turbulent. We have to know for ourselves who God is, after all He is a personal living God & wants a relationship w/each of those who name Jesus Christ as Savior & Lord. He isn't just a God for preachers & pastors & those we put on pedestals and think we could never be as "spiritual" as they are. Sadly, many aren't as spiritual as they seem. This is why God wants our hearts in communion w/Him at all times through good & bad, hilltops & valleys low. Thank you again for your kind words & for sharing.
Death is not a punishment for people who are saved. But it can be a punishment for those who love the deceased. God was not punishing the child, He was punishing David. The child went to heaven, David had to stay behind and be constantly reminded of his sin.
David even says that he looked forward to seeing his son again in the afterlife. He recognized that it was indeed a punishment for His sin and not a punishment to the child who went to be with God.
@Truth Seeker *You are clearly not familiar with the life of David, the meaning of the throne to which David was seated or the symbolism of the kingdom which David's throne presided over. When you study and have understood these things return here. Some conversations we have to qualify for in order to participate in. This is one of them.*
@Truth Seeker *God made a Covenant with Abraham, a Covenant with Israel and both Covenants were facilitated by the Covenant God made with David. If God had judged David by death it not only would have destroyed all 3 Covenants but it would have made God out to be a LIAR. Now, what else, have you NOT thought through regarding this situation?*
Yes, God literally killed David's son. The text explicitly states that God says the child will die and then afflicts it, before it dies seven days later. It's a horrific passage.
Agreed, and somehow apologists will shame people for being skeptical, then twist the narrative to fit their definition of God's higher love and purpose.
Your last comment, Alisa....a "God-send". After reading "The 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith"...I was deeply troubled. In Chap. 10 , paragraph 3. It stated that "Elect" infants, dying in infancy are regenerated and saved by Christ. I was astounded! I asked myself, " What happens to "non-'elect' " infants? ... Thank you. I don't see ( as yet) in scripture that ANY infants go anywhere else, but to Jesus.
Another son of David, from the same woman, wrote something that applies here "A person’s own folly leads to their ruin, yet their heart rages against the LORD." = Proverbs 19:3
Awe Alisa thanks for what you said in the end about God ushering the babe to his arms. I can see the love and joy of the Holy Spirit radiating from your eyes! Hallelujah thank you for the ministry you have!
Why would death for that baby be a punishment? It wasn't in God's eyes. It was a reward. That baby never had to deal with the pain, deception, and death surrounding his/her conception. Or the pain that Bathsheba may have felt whenever she looked at him/her. God, in His omniscience, knew how to eternally bless the baby while also punishing David.
@Truth Seeker this is different because it turns into man's Justice which is evil instead of God's justice which is holy. Remember, even though Israel was enslaved by Egypt, God still judged moses for taking justice into his own hands and killing the Egyptian instead of allowing God to enact his Righteous judgement against them.
@Truth Seeker "Would you say the same for abortion? If the parents aren’t stable, would that be okay? That baby will never have to deal with pain, deception" *Youre not good at NOW showing your hand.*
@Truth Seeker that was done in judgment against their sins...and those children didn't suffer and starve, they were killed instantly. Those children didnt have to grow up and see death and suffering and end up in hell. They are actually eternally with God in heaven. It was judgement for their parents.
@Truth Seeker the very verse we are talking about proves children go to heavem. 2 Sam 12:23 But now that the baby is dead, why should I fast? I can’t bring him back to life. Someday I will go to him, but he cannot come back to me.” -- here we see that David even knew his son would be in heaven. And like I said before, abortion is wrong for humans because we do not have the right to take a life. God is holy and incapable of doing something that is unjust, we may simply not understand as he doesn't reveal every reason..
@Truth Seeker sure is a holy God. If you do wrong there are consequences and punishment for it. Israel was under God's law and if they had faith and obeyed they would love, if they were in disobedience they knew that curses would come upon them. It's no different than you and I today. If I spread and break the law, I am fined. If I keep doing wrong I am imprisoned. If I do egregiously like murder, I could face death. You seem like a nice guy who has a sense of justice that does not line up to God's sense of justice. Maybe this is why your name is truth seeker, because you still haven't fully given your life to Christ and think there is a better truth out there. But maybe I am judging you wrongly.
Nathan and David's conversación esa Just enteren the two of them and Nathan said that g'd forgave David when David admited that he had sinned and repent from his heart but as he was a king and an exemple consequences had to be public. Forgiveness does not mean no consequences.
Like physical genetics from Adam, we also have spiritual genetics from Adam. No child who is born with a deformity has it due to the guilt of any historical ancestral crimes. Likewise, we each do not inherit the spiritual guilt of any ancestors who sinned. Deut 24:16 John 9:1-3 Yet, we are privy to the story of David and the death of his child in God's Word because God let it be written in scriptures so of course that is something that God would want us to know and to fully comprehend like everything else on scriptures..
Perhaps God allows negative consequences for forgiven sins because the only way we can be forgiven is by suffering in this life. Whatever horrors may happen to you in this world is a grain of dust compared to the suffering you may face in the next.
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@Alisa ,this question remind me about 2 recent questions from my 11 years old son 1.Why did God created covid 19 ,whereas he expected us to go to church 2.Why SDA go to church on Saturday,
To answer the second question: SDA believe they are following the Sabbath laws of the Bible. Typically, Christians go to church on Sundays because that is when the disciples and early Christians began to congregate to worship and break bread according to Acts, as it was the day Jesus was risen from the grave. SDAs dispute this fact because the apostles continued to speak at synagogues on Saturdays, but that was specifically to preach the good news at the most opportune time for a mass of others to hear it, as well as observe the sabbath. Sunday was not considered the new sabbath by early Christians. It was a day of worship and congregation of fellow believers. They followed sabbath/preaching on saturday and worshipped Christ on Sunday with fellow believers. Over the centuries, traditions and church leaders began equating Sunday worship with the Sabbath. I personally don’t think it matters which day one chooses so long as they honor one day out of the week as the Lord’s day. Unfortunately, the western world doesn’t do much resting on either day anymore.
@@melindamercier6811 *The Sabbath in the 1st Century Church was no longer an event, a day or a time. It was a Person. Thats why Paul called Christ the Lord of our Rest. We enter into HIS REST when we are born again. He is OUR perpetual REST/Sabbath.*
@@melindamercier6811 Thank you for the response, I always ensure that when my son ask something, I pay attention nd be honest if I don't know how to answer, I will explain to him, thanks
All life belongs to God. All mankind are stewards of that life. Life is eternal. Mankind was, then sin entered the world and denied us of God's eternal life. Jesus restored eternal life to all mankind as a free gift and the only thing that keeps us in corporeal life is lack of faith.
For ALL of His Judgements are right. If God were to strike me dead I would still say All of His Judgements are right. I've seen God's mercy when there was no human reasoning with which to justify it. I've seen His judgement when there was no human reasoning with which to understand it. In all things... at ALL times... His Judgements are right.
I don’t think he did a good job of answering the question. He did a good job of talking all around it and providing some other stories but not too relevant IMHO. I wonder if David would have repented and have a heart for God? The fear of the Lord is the beginning of understanding.
The amount of hemming and hawing, challenging the category of the question, etc. to avoid answering the question is impressive. Of course, the answer he provides is it is a mystery. God's ways are not our ways. Christians, if you think this is a good answer, remember that once you accept this principle, there is literally nothing your God can do that is wicked or wrong. If that is the case, then I could propose that there is an evil God who created everything and he allows some good and pleasure to exist so that more evil and suffering can exist. You a diving into the pool of radical skepticism (you are skeptical that anything God does is wrong). If that is the case, how can you claim to believe in a rational, logical and evidentiary faith? Instead, it indicates you are members of a mystery religion, just like the many other religions you dismiss. The text specifically says God caused the baby to be sick from birth and then die because he was angry with David. It wasn't a direct consequence of sin (e.g. dying from a drug overdose). It was God causing the baby to suffer and die in order to punish David. To hear Alisa deny that this is unjust or a punishment for the baby and then hear her go on and on about how progressive christians are bad is the thickest irony.
*How many sock accounts are you going to plague this comment thread fm repeating the same crap over and over? Its obvious what youre objective here and its obvious to me WHY you're here in the first place.*
@@thetruthchannel349 This is my only account. Instead of responding to arguments, you respond to issues unrelated to answering the question. Why is that? Unlike you, it's not obvious to me what your objective is in making false claims without evidence about sock accounts. I guess like Yahweh's justice, it is a mystery.
@@truncated7644 *No, Im not. You've just decided to play it to the wall. Despite the fact, there are 3 different suspicious accounts leaving virtually the same comment. Thats a HARD wall behind ya there* )-
@@TypicalTGreen And you have replaced your need for mercy with sacrifice. "If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent."
This video is entitled “Did God kill David’s son?” I think the simple answer is yes (if taken at face value). Tell the nonbeliever to suck it up buttercup. God is God & He does what He wills whenever He chooses.
If you created self-aware conscious beings, would you feel you could anything you wanted with them? Make them sick, scared, tell them you are going to kill them and then kill them?
Xtian Apologetic Wordplay. It is not killing when god does it. We will call it his judgement. It is not genocide when god does it. We will call it his judgement. LOL
Even among the world of men, proprietary rights are recognized and protected by Law. I hold many, many copyrights. They are simply a registry of my Proprietary pre-eminence concerning that which I have made. God holds Proprietary License over all things. Thats the difference between God being The Creator and your being the CreatED.
@@sanjeevgig8918 "from a poorly written book" *What is it Isaac Newton pointed to as PROOF that the Biblical texts had to have originated with and been transmitted BY the CREATOR of Space and Time?*
@@sanjeevgig8918 "ZERO EVIDENCE" *Do you realize how many ways you have presented me with to bait you, hook you, reel you in, skin you and hang you out with just these TWO 'POORLY' thought out words?* )-
@@sanjeevgig8918 "PS: Massless and Spaceless and Timeless "creator" *Do you even have basic understanding that you are on a MASSLESS, SPACELESS and TIMELESS platform right now? The Internet has ZERO mass, takes up ZERO space. The Operating Systems facilitating your access to the Internet have ZERO MASS and take up NO space. God isn't the true mystery here at all. The TRUE mystery HERE is why people like you assert things with which you have no intellectual association with.*
God punishes no one. We only know that when we forgive everyone and realize love has no punishment and God is only love. So don't fear God. "There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love." “Grace comes to forgive and then forgive again.” When we love God with all our heart, soul and mind there is no room for fear.
@Robert Douglas. I beg to differ, Robert. God does punish people, especially those He calls His own. Look at what happened to the Israelite nation when they disobeyed and turned their backs on Him after He delivered them out of Egypt: He allowed them to be scattered and taken into captivity by the Assyrians, the Babylonians, and ultimately the Persians who eventually let them return to their homeland. Please go back and read Deuteronomy 28: 15: "But if you will not obey the voice of the LORD your God or be careful to do all his commandments and His statutes that I command you today, then all these cures shall come upon you." He goes on to list those curses later on that chapter. Here's a New Testament verse: that corroborates the Old Testament: Hebrews 12:5-9 which reads, " And have you forgotten the exhortation that addresses you as sons? My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the LORD, nor be weary when reproved by him. For the LORD disciplines the one he loves, and chastised every son whom He receives. It is for discipline that you you have to endure. God is treating you as sons. For what son is there whom his father does not discipline? Of you are left without discipline, in which all have participated, then you are illegitimate children and not sons."
@@TypicalTGreen "Our Father, who art in heaven. "You are on the earth but not of the earth." "The kingdom of heaven is within you." When you think it's God, hiding behind bushes to punish you, it's not surprising that you fear God. I don't believe that. We punish ourselves only.
I’m in a time where I’ve been facing suffering after sudden suffering. Wondering why God would allow such things to happen to me. I was following God, then out of the blue disasters struck. It feels like he left me alone in this pit, and the only hope I had for myself was to knuckle down and be stronger in my own strength. Lo, and behold another disaster came and kicked me right back down. Through all of this I kept asking why God would allow such things to happen now, when previously they didn’t. I’ve read Job, and it has touched my heart. Like was said in the video I also was like “poor Guy” to Job. I can see I’ve adopted a posture of a skeptic many times whenever I come to God. My joy and love for him has diminished because of this skeptical attitude. I’m going to try praying and fasting. I just wish I could get back everything that was taken from me, that I worked so hard for! Please pray for me
Suffering forces us to know if we love God because He is our Savior, or if we love Him because our life here on earth is good. I suffer too from terrible pain. Have you read Foxe’s Book of Martyrs? It’s helpful to me:)
@@RaptureReadyPam amen. This is a powerful statement that is also a hard pill to swallow for us Christians. Suffering really is a pulse check for our faith in the promises of God. Suffering well is so incredibly difficult in this life. But I am inspired by my brothers and sisters who have suffered like I have, and perservered. And so often, under worse conditions.
We are all going through times of testing & suffering where we have doubts & ask God why. I lost my mom & a nephew, a good friend all in the last 2 years & my dear friend just lost her husband & we had the funeral last week. All of that among many other trials while I cared for my mom in a nursing home the last 5 yrs., especially during Covid.
If you are truly saved & have God's Spirit w/in you, He will not let you go.
I have had many deaths in my family in the last 6 yrs & I left a church I attended for nearly 18 yrs. because of spiritual abuse & a pastor who was arrested twice for drunk driving. I lost many friends because when you left, people disowned you & the pastor said not to have contact w/anyone who left.
I am in a place where I am going back to the beginning & reading the One Year chronological Bible to see who God really is for myself & learning to trust Him for who He says He is.
I think in the modern day version of Christianity, we're fed a bill of goods about how wonderful God wants to make all of our lives & gives us great success & fulfill our dreams. That just isn't true. We will have times of suffering because that is what builds our faith & causes us to trust in God. It tests us & tries us & causes us to see what we really believe & do we have a deep abiding faith in God.
God is drawing us to Himself in spite of ourselves. Don't give up & seek forgiveness. God will not abandon you if you are truly His & trust in Him. Seek Him with all of your heart & you will find Him.
@@barbs1298 Thank you for sharing how you have suffered. You’ve been through a lot. I think it’s wonderful you’re reading through the Bible on your own to get to know Christ better. It is so helpful to me to stay close to His Word. I have known this scripture, but never understood a personal experience of terrible suffering, so it had little meaning. These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.” Now, it has lots of meaning!
@@RaptureReadyPam Thank you for your kind reply. My life has known a lot of pain & suffering, but God has often shown His mercy & grace to me. The peace I am now working on after my mom's passing last Feb. which was so very difficult for me after caring for her the last 5 yrs of her life.
Thank God we have His Word. We must make it personal to us as opposed to always depending on a pastor or someone else to do that. Far too many Christians go to church on Sunday & may crack a Bible there to hear 1 verse & go home & never pick it up again. I became disillusioned. I want to see it again w/a fresh insight as to who God is. These days we live in are turbulent. We have to know for ourselves who God is, after all He is a personal living God & wants a relationship w/each of those who name Jesus Christ as Savior & Lord. He isn't just a God for preachers & pastors & those we put on pedestals and think we could never be as "spiritual" as they are. Sadly, many aren't as spiritual as they seem. This is why God wants our hearts in communion w/Him at all times through good & bad, hilltops & valleys low. Thank you again for your kind words & for sharing.
A sinless son bearing the punishment on behalf of a guilty sinner? Now where have I heard something like that before ... ? 🤔
Happens all the time in the hood eye for eye
What a wonderful savior we have!
Death is not a punishment for people who are saved. But it can be a punishment for those who love the deceased. God was not punishing the child, He was punishing David. The child went to heaven, David had to stay behind and be constantly reminded of his sin.
David even says that he looked forward to seeing his son again in the afterlife. He recognized that it was indeed a punishment for His sin and not a punishment to the child who went to be with God.
@Truth Seeker God loved David. It was a foreshadowing of the love the Father would have for Christ.
@Truth Seeker *You are clearly not familiar with the life of David, the meaning of the throne to which David was seated or the symbolism of the kingdom which David's throne presided over. When you study and have understood these things return here. Some conversations we have to qualify for in order to participate in. This is one of them.*
@Truth Seeker *So, suddenly you have a problem with deplorable men? This is new. When did this start? LOL*
@Truth Seeker *God made a Covenant with Abraham, a Covenant with Israel and both Covenants were facilitated by the Covenant God made with David. If God had judged David by death it not only would have destroyed all 3 Covenants but it would have made God out to be a LIAR. Now, what else, have you NOT thought through regarding this situation?*
Yes, God literally killed David's son. The text explicitly states that God says the child will die and then afflicts it, before it dies seven days later.
It's a horrific passage.
Agreed, and somehow apologists will shame people for being skeptical, then twist the narrative to fit their definition of God's higher love and purpose.
Alisa, your response / comment was EXACTLY what I was thinking as he was speaking.
Very nice polite word salad. Thanks
No kidding
Dude, for real...
Your last comment, Alisa....a "God-send". After reading "The 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith"...I was deeply troubled. In Chap. 10 , paragraph 3. It stated that "Elect" infants, dying in infancy are regenerated and saved by Christ. I was astounded! I asked myself, " What happens to "non-'elect' " infants? ... Thank you. I don't see ( as yet) in scripture that ANY infants go anywhere else, but to Jesus.
The single problem with this argument is that, then abortion can be considered a blessing to a child... however stupid that de sounds.
Another son of David, from the same woman, wrote something that applies here "A person’s own folly leads to their ruin, yet their heart rages against the LORD." = Proverbs 19:3
Awe Alisa thanks for what you said in the end about God ushering the babe to his arms. I can see the love and joy of the Holy Spirit radiating from your eyes! Hallelujah thank you for the ministry you have!
Why would death for that baby be a punishment? It wasn't in God's eyes. It was a reward. That baby never had to deal with the pain, deception, and death surrounding his/her conception. Or the pain that Bathsheba may have felt whenever she looked at him/her. God, in His omniscience, knew how to eternally bless the baby while also punishing David.
@Truth Seeker this is different because it turns into man's Justice which is evil instead of God's justice which is holy. Remember, even though Israel was enslaved by Egypt, God still judged moses for taking justice into his own hands and killing the Egyptian instead of allowing God to enact his Righteous judgement against them.
@Truth Seeker "Would you say the same for abortion? If the parents aren’t stable, would that be okay? That baby will never have to deal with pain, deception" *Youre not good at NOW showing your hand.*
@Truth Seeker that was done in judgment against their sins...and those children didn't suffer and starve, they were killed instantly. Those children didnt have to grow up and see death and suffering and end up in hell. They are actually eternally with God in heaven. It was judgement for their parents.
@Truth Seeker the very verse we are talking about proves children go to heavem. 2 Sam 12:23 But now that the baby is dead, why should I fast? I can’t bring him back to life. Someday I will go to him, but he cannot come back to me.”
-- here we see that David even knew his son would be in heaven.
And like I said before, abortion is wrong for humans because we do not have the right to take a life. God is holy and incapable of doing something that is unjust, we may simply not understand as he doesn't reveal every reason..
@Truth Seeker sure is a holy God. If you do wrong there are consequences and punishment for it. Israel was under God's law and if they had faith and obeyed they would love, if they were in disobedience they knew that curses would come upon them.
It's no different than you and I today. If I spread and break the law, I am fined. If I keep doing wrong I am imprisoned. If I do egregiously like murder, I could face death.
You seem like a nice guy who has a sense of justice that does not line up to God's sense of justice. Maybe this is why your name is truth seeker, because you still haven't fully given your life to Christ and think there is a better truth out there. But maybe I am judging you wrongly.
Her comments at the end were so much more convincing and thought provoking than the dude who just rambled on about nothing for 8 minutes.
amennnn thanks for answering this 💯
Nathan and David's conversación esa Just enteren the two of them and Nathan said that g'd forgave David when David admited that he had sinned and repent from his heart but as he was a king and an exemple consequences had to be public. Forgiveness does not mean no consequences.
Like physical genetics from Adam, we also have spiritual genetics from Adam. No child who is born with a deformity has it due to the guilt of any historical ancestral crimes. Likewise, we each do not inherit the spiritual guilt of any ancestors who sinned.
Deut 24:16
John 9:1-3
Yet, we are privy to the story of David and the death of his child in God's Word because God let it be written in scriptures so of course that is something that God would want us to know and to fully comprehend like everything else on scriptures..
Perhaps God allows negative consequences for forgiven sins because the only way we can be forgiven is by suffering in this life.
Whatever horrors may happen to you in this world is a grain of dust compared to the suffering you may face in the next.
God is not the causation of evil or sin.
The guy just beat around the bush
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@Alisa ,this question remind me about 2 recent questions from my 11 years old son
1.Why did God created covid 19 ,whereas he expected us to go to church
2.Why SDA go to church on Saturday,
God didn't create Covid 19, the government did.
God didn't create it. Military scientists did.
To answer the second question: SDA believe they are following the Sabbath laws of the Bible. Typically, Christians go to church on Sundays because that is when the disciples and early Christians began to congregate to worship and break bread according to Acts, as it was the day Jesus was risen from the grave. SDAs dispute this fact because the apostles continued to speak at synagogues on Saturdays, but that was specifically to preach the good news at the most opportune time for a mass of others to hear it, as well as observe the sabbath. Sunday was not considered the new sabbath by early Christians. It was a day of worship and congregation of fellow believers. They followed sabbath/preaching on saturday and worshipped Christ on Sunday with fellow believers. Over the centuries, traditions and church leaders began equating Sunday worship with the Sabbath. I personally don’t think it matters which day one chooses so long as they honor one day out of the week as the Lord’s day. Unfortunately, the western world doesn’t do much resting on either day anymore.
@@melindamercier6811 *The Sabbath in the 1st Century Church was no longer an event, a day or a time. It was a Person. Thats why Paul called Christ the Lord of our Rest. We enter into HIS REST when we are born again. He is OUR perpetual REST/Sabbath.*
@@melindamercier6811 Thank you for the response, I always ensure that when my son ask something, I pay attention nd be honest if I don't know how to answer, I will explain to him, thanks
Cool! I've been reading that book. It's a great book! Hidden Treasures in the book Job.
All life belongs to God. All mankind are stewards of that life. Life is eternal. Mankind was, then sin entered the world and denied us of God's eternal life. Jesus restored eternal life to all mankind as a free gift and the only thing that keeps us in corporeal life is lack of faith.
For ALL of His Judgements are right. If God were to strike me dead I would still say All of His Judgements are right. I've seen God's mercy when there was no human reasoning with which to justify it. I've seen His judgement when there was no human reasoning with which to understand it. In all things... at ALL times... His Judgements are right.
@Truth Seeker *You're literally and metaphorically a fraud.*
I don’t think he did a good job of answering the question. He did a good job of talking all around it and providing some other stories but not too relevant IMHO. I wonder if David would have repented and have a heart for God? The fear of the Lord is the beginning of understanding.
Could you do a video on 1 Samuel 15:2?
No arguing in the replies; I will delete this comment.
The amount of hemming and hawing, challenging the category of the question, etc. to avoid answering the question is impressive. Of course, the answer he provides is it is a mystery. God's ways are not our ways.
Christians, if you think this is a good answer, remember that once you accept this principle, there is literally nothing your God can do that is wicked or wrong. If that is the case, then I could propose that there is an evil God who created everything and he allows some good and pleasure to exist so that more evil and suffering can exist.
You a diving into the pool of radical skepticism (you are skeptical that anything God does is wrong). If that is the case, how can you claim to believe in a rational, logical and evidentiary faith? Instead, it indicates you are members of a mystery religion, just like the many other religions you dismiss.
The text specifically says God caused the baby to be sick from birth and then die because he was angry with David. It wasn't a direct consequence of sin (e.g. dying from a drug overdose). It was God causing the baby to suffer and die in order to punish David. To hear Alisa deny that this is unjust or a punishment for the baby and then hear her go on and on about how progressive christians are bad is the thickest irony.
*How many sock accounts are you going to plague this comment thread fm repeating the same crap over and over? Its obvious what youre objective here and its obvious to me WHY you're here in the first place.*
@@thetruthchannel349 This is my only account. Instead of responding to arguments, you respond to issues unrelated to answering the question. Why is that? Unlike you, it's not obvious to me what your objective is in making false claims without evidence about sock accounts. I guess like Yahweh's justice, it is a mystery.
@@truncated7644 *You're a liar. Imagine a liar making false accusations towards God.* )
@@thetruthchannel349 Why imagine such things when you are right here making false accusations against me?
@@truncated7644 *No, Im not. You've just decided to play it to the wall. Despite the fact, there are 3 different suspicious accounts leaving virtually the same comment. Thats a HARD wall behind ya there* )-
"The LORD gives and He takes away."
“Grace comes to forgive and then forgive again.”
@@robertdouglas8895 :) "Jesus paid it all, and all to Him I owe..."
@@TypicalTGreen And you have replaced your need for mercy with sacrifice.
"If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent."
@@robertdouglas8895 ...innocent of what?
@@TypicalTGreen That's the effect of forgiveness. People don't ruin your life. You forgive them for what they didn't do.
I believe God had said He liked the child
Dude, what are you trying to say? No wonder people don’t see Christians and church as the answer and relevant for addressing their pains.
I say this is a Christian, there was absolutely nothing satisfactory about either person's answer given in this video.
This video is entitled “Did God kill David’s son?” I think the simple answer is yes (if taken at face value). Tell the nonbeliever to suck it up buttercup. God is God & He does what He wills whenever He chooses.
ALLAH will also tell you the same thing: "suck it up buttercup, you are going to burn in HELL"
See how easy it is.
LOL
If you created self-aware conscious beings, would you feel you could anything you wanted with them? Make them sick, scared, tell them you are going to kill them and then kill them?
Xtian Apologetic Wordplay.
It is not killing when god does it. We will call it his judgement.
It is not genocide when god does it. We will call it his judgement.
LOL
Even among the world of men, proprietary rights are recognized and protected by Law. I hold many, many copyrights. They are simply a registry of my Proprietary pre-eminence concerning that which I have made. God holds Proprietary License over all things. Thats the difference between God being The Creator and your being the CreatED.
@@thetruthchannel349 ZERO EVIDENCE. Only bald face claims from a poorly written book.
PS: Massless and Spaceless and Timeless "creator" = Nothing + Nowhere + Never. ©©
LOL©LOL
@@sanjeevgig8918 "from a poorly written book" *What is it Isaac Newton pointed to as PROOF that the Biblical texts had to have originated with and been transmitted BY the CREATOR of Space and Time?*
@@sanjeevgig8918 "ZERO EVIDENCE" *Do you realize how many ways you have presented me with to bait you, hook you, reel you in, skin you and hang you out with just these TWO 'POORLY' thought out words?* )-
@@sanjeevgig8918 "PS: Massless and Spaceless and Timeless "creator" *Do you even have basic understanding that you are on a MASSLESS, SPACELESS and TIMELESS platform right now? The Internet has ZERO mass, takes up ZERO space. The Operating Systems facilitating your access to the Internet have ZERO MASS and take up NO space. God isn't the true mystery here at all. The TRUE mystery HERE is why people like you assert things with which you have no intellectual association with.*
Utter nonsense.
Pure fiction.
God punishes no one. We only know that when we forgive everyone and realize love has no punishment and God is only love. So don't fear God.
"There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love."
“Grace comes to forgive and then forgive again.”
When we love God with all our heart, soul and mind there is no room for fear.
Whoa, Sir you are dead wrong! Acts 5; with the account of Ananias and Sapphira.
You, sir have not read your Bible. Do a deep dive into the prophets. Study Jeremiah. It is super clear that God does do the punishing for iniquity.
@Robert Douglas. I beg to differ, Robert. God does punish people, especially those He calls His own. Look at what happened to the Israelite nation when they disobeyed and turned their backs on Him after He delivered them out of Egypt: He allowed them to be scattered and taken into captivity by the Assyrians, the Babylonians, and ultimately the Persians who eventually let them return to their homeland. Please go back and read Deuteronomy 28: 15:
"But if you will not obey the voice of the LORD your God or be careful to do all his commandments and His statutes that I command you today, then all these cures shall come upon you." He goes on to list those curses later on that chapter.
Here's a New Testament verse: that corroborates the Old Testament: Hebrews 12:5-9 which reads, " And have you forgotten the exhortation that addresses you as sons? My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the LORD, nor be weary when reproved by him. For the LORD disciplines the one he loves, and chastised every son whom He receives. It is for discipline that you you have to endure. God is treating you as sons. For what son is there whom his father does not discipline? Of you are left without discipline, in which all have participated, then you are illegitimate children and not sons."
@@TypicalTGreen "Our Father, who art in heaven.
"You are on the earth but not of the earth."
"The kingdom of heaven is within you."
When you think it's God, hiding behind bushes to punish you, it's not surprising that you fear God. I don't believe that.
We punish ourselves only.
@@robertdouglas8895 Rest assured I don't believe that of the LORD. But He could definitely think me out of existence if He wanted to.
YHWH is evil.
*But youre going to HELL and YHWH and His family is going to RULE and REIGN forever*
@@thetruthchannel349 , YHWH/Yahweh/Jehovah/Allah are all aliases for the Wicked One.
Pure evil.