I definitely see what you are talking about, and I agree. Using concept to direct technique, as opposed to using technique to direct concept. To me this truly shows the mastery you have of your art. Thx for the lesson
Believe it or not I’ve done this in mma and grappling sparring from the clinch via an arm drag or Russian tie . It’s less desirable for sport because it lets the opponent escape because you don’t follow them to the ground but on the street you can drop them then give them the boots. I push the lower back with one hand whilst the other arm is pushing up and diagonal across their jaw
I find this incredibly challenging, still. I guess that's why they teach it so early in the curriculum. I used to kind of move across people's bodies to knock them down since I am bigger than most of the others. That's obviously less than ideal but I've been figuring it out over time. As always, your breakdowns are incredibly insightful. Thank you.
Thank you for the video. I have a question. If a samurai, which is a agent of the state for the Tokugawa shogunate, were to approach someone from the rear in order to use a physical technique, wouldn't the bushi(samurai) try to immobilize the subject for further questioning or just dispatch on the spot with a weapon? I'm curious as to when someone would approach another human being from the rear but not have one of those endpoints in mind while acting as an agent of the state.
While not totally false, I believe it's a bit of a misnomer to believe that all Aikido techinques come from "sword work" or "fencing". That might make you think that all of the techniques in Aikido have a direct correspondence to sword techniques/movements. While true in a few cases- it's not universally true about the system. I believe it is more correct to think that Aikido techniques always consider weapons and multiple attackers to be in play. This leads to very different technical sets than we would see in systems that don't consider weapons and multiple attackers to be the norm.
Aikido is very much a 20th century development and really has nothing or very little to do with martial strategies employed by the Bushi (samurai). It’s not koryu. And it’s parent art Daito Ryu wasn’t / isn’t koryu (classical pre-Meiji) either.
And then there's Steven Seagull, who uses it as a clothesline... Why do you Aikido guys use the arm like this rather than using a palm strike or similar looking headmanipulation? I tried both and found the Aikido version much more awkward. What am I overlooking?
Seeing all the different styles of Iriminage and their unique emphases really helps flush out a better understanding of all the mechanics at play! 🙏
I definitely see what you are talking about, and I agree. Using concept to direct technique, as opposed to using technique to direct concept. To me this truly shows the mastery you have of your art. Thx for the lesson
It’s been a while since I did aikido, but wish I had your insights/explanations back then. It all makes so much more sense!
Believe it or not I’ve done this in mma and grappling sparring from the clinch via an arm drag or Russian tie . It’s less desirable for sport because it lets the opponent escape because you don’t follow them to the ground but on the street you can drop them then give them the boots. I push the lower back with one hand whilst the other arm is pushing up and diagonal across their jaw
I find this incredibly challenging, still. I guess that's why they teach it so early in the curriculum. I used to kind of move across people's bodies to knock them down since I am bigger than most of the others. That's obviously less than ideal but I've been figuring it out over time. As always, your breakdowns are incredibly insightful. Thank you.
Thank you for the video. I have a question. If a samurai, which is a agent of the state for the Tokugawa shogunate, were to approach someone from the rear in order to use a physical technique, wouldn't the bushi(samurai) try to immobilize the subject for further questioning or just dispatch on the spot with a weapon? I'm curious as to when someone would approach another human being from the rear but not have one of those endpoints in mind while acting as an agent of the state.
Also, doesn't the origin of the technique come from sword fencing?
While not totally false, I believe it's a bit of a misnomer to believe that all Aikido techinques come from "sword work" or "fencing". That might make you think that all of the techniques in Aikido have a direct correspondence to sword techniques/movements. While true in a few cases- it's not universally true about the system.
I believe it is more correct to think that Aikido techniques always consider weapons and multiple attackers to be in play. This leads to very different technical sets than we would see in systems that don't consider weapons and multiple attackers to be the norm.
Aikido is very much a 20th century development and really has nothing or very little to do with martial strategies employed by the Bushi (samurai). It’s not koryu. And it’s parent art Daito Ryu wasn’t / isn’t koryu (classical pre-Meiji) either.
@@ChuShinTani agreed. being aware that more attackers either are or may be present is essential.
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And then there's Steven Seagull, who uses it as a clothesline...
Why do you Aikido guys use the arm like this rather than using a palm strike or similar looking headmanipulation? I tried both and found the Aikido version much more awkward. What am I overlooking?