Kind of reminds me of the ship from the movie "Conquest of Space". So many unrealized ideas for winged spaceflight. Another interesting space plane concept was the caret wing waverider that Terence Nonweiler proposed back in the 1950s.
I read somewhere that the production designer for the original 1968 film Planet of the Apes used this concept to create the movie's spacecraft that would later be called the "Icarus." The film designer's renderings of the complete vehicle, unseen booster included, looked very much like this.
I read an analysis of the movie once that was pretty interesting. But it lost me when it insisted that one of the characters was supposed to be gay,so.......
😍Beautiful work, as always! I never previously knew about this concept. Since it wasn't until July 14-15, 1965, when Mariner 4 completed its flyby reconnaissance of Mars, that we discovered that Mars has 1-100th of the atmospheric density of Earth, Mr. Bono can be forgiven for selecting a glider configuration for his crewed Mars lander. (Earlier crewed Mars mission architectures made the same assumptions - notably Wernher von Braun's "Marsprojekt", and the lifting-body design of Aeronutronic, a defense related division of Ford Aerospace).
There's a distinct change in the concepts from before and after. I think the first detailed concept after was the North American Rockwell one, and most follow a similar theme from there on. Earlier ones all use a lot more aero.
I’m impressed by how well everything is thought out. Atmosphere too thin to slow down enough? Pop a chute to get the drag you need! No runway? No problem, just land vertically! Don’t want to drag the now dead weight of empty fuel tanks and useless engines? Just cut the glider in half!
I've wondered why Starship, once in orbit, could not detach what's needed to get to the moon, down and up and back. It would have to be huge fuel savings.
Not to nitpick, but there are some minor errors: - the stage separates from the glider before it enters Mars orbit, so that the glider does a direct entry - the orange tank around it is supposed to be discarded before heading to Earth, as it is empty by that point. - as the nose of the glider contains a reactor, it is supposed to be dismounted during the surface operations. - before liftoff from Mars, the rear of the glider is supposed to be anchored via cables Otherwise, great job on this rarely-known concept!
Gorgeous use of actual Mars renderings and images. The view during descent over Tharsis was very Kubrick-style. I recognize the landing site; it appears to be Curiosity's home, Gale Crater, as the backdrop of Mt. Sharp is my computer desktop background. Phil Bono would be proud of this.
@@mariasirona1622 I see what you're saying. The canyon borders Tharsis and is part of the eastern plateau. Its likelihood as a tectonic crack caused by volcanic activity has been my understanding and proximity.
I remember spending hours looking at the mars mission article in my World Book. Part of that mission profile was extending a boom from the landing craft and spinning the entire craft for gravity during the cruise phase. The video shows a more updated architecture with a reusable nuclear booster? It’s a joy to see something from my childhood imagination rendered in an awesome animation
With that music at the beginning I half expected to hear: "Hello, I'm Michael Anis and this is Episode 266: Apollo 13 - “Houston, we’ve had a problem.” - Part 1..." It just gets me in the right mood.
Those old designs were something else. This does not look like it has any abort options or margin of error, designed long before NASA became risk-averse. I really like the Plug Nozzle Boosters and Injection Stage.
The original concept had the forward section of the glider as the crew return capsule, which presumably could have been part of an escape mechanism. It was the only part of the craft that was designed to renter the atmosphere and splash down.
Bono Manned Mars Vehicle Mission Summary: Summary: First serious single-launch Mars expedition design Propulsion: LOX/LH2 Braking at Mars: aerodynamic Mission Type: conjunction Split or All-Up: all up ISRU: no ISRU Launch Year: 1971 Crew: 8 Mars Surface payload-metric tons: 480 Outbound time-days: 259 Mars Stay Time-days: 490 Return Time-days: 248 Total Mission Time-days: 997 Total Payload Required in Low Earth Orbit-metric tons: 800 Total Propellant Required-metric tons: 500 Propellant Fraction: 0.62 Mass per crew-metric tons: 100 Launch Vehicle Payload to LEO-metric tons: 800 Number of Launches Required to Assemble Payload in Low Earth Orbit: 1 Launch Vehicle: Bono HLV Mr. Bono estimated Mars' atmosphere to be 80mb pressure, 10X greater than what Mariner 4 discovered. His design would need to be redone around these numbers.
We have seen many wild concepts brought beautifully to life by Hazegrayart, but this may be the most poorly considered. Guaranteed loss of crew on Mars landing if not sooner.
Yeah. Still cool. If only live in that mythical future. Unlimited funds. Unlimited cheap petroleum. Radiation without long-term effects. Landing an aircraft on a rock-strewn surface.
Extra credit for showing the craft pointed backwards during Orbital Insertion. So many movies and videos show spacecraft still pointing forwards with thrusters on - as if they wanted to crash into the planet.
What was the point of the Glider? It does not need to glide at all! Why glide? You are landing vertically, you are taking off with almost as much thrust required for vertical t.o. And to land, you can't do it without the chute, cause atmosphere is too thin! Why glide?
@@Nighthawke70 yeah, even after the early landers confirmed the extremely thin atmosphere they still had the glider mission as an example of a manned mission to mars in world book encyclopedias.
0:12, 3 May 1971. I was living at Camp Fidel and working with an electronic intelligence gathering unit on the north perimeter of Phu Cat Air Force Base, Vietnam . I saw rockets being launched when I was there too. Perhaps not on that actual day though. 122mm Katyusha rockets.
The Mars Glider is just a concept that NASA uses in their personality test for new astronaut candidates. If a new recruit says they'd be willing to fly a Boeing death-trap to Mars and back, they are rejected from the space program.
@@dziban303 if that guy's a Ukrainian what you just said could be interpreted as pro-Shahed terrorist attacks, not pro-use of drones on invading soldiers.
Imo one thing that should be employed in any manned Mars mission is Resource Extraction portion that focuses on extracting either chemical fuel and oxidizer from either Diemos or Phobus. Or propellant to be used in a nuclear powered spacecraft. But then I am neither a mission planner or an aerospace engineer.
This is amazing! I'm very curious as to how you have the craft launch at Cape Canaveral, is the entire scene an image underneath the animation? Or an actual setup? I'd love to know!
Great stuff. The booster engines puzzled me, though? At first I thought thy were aerospikes, but the shape looks wrong, more like a dome than a spike. What are they>
Жаль, что на Марсе недопустимо высокий радиационный фон и космонавты получат максимально допустимую за всю их карьеру дозу радиации... С этим надо что-то решать...
შემიძლია სიცოცხლისათვის ხელსაყრელი პირობები შევქმნა მთვარეზეც და მარსზეც მაგრამ ღმერთი უარზეა, მერე ომს დაიწყებენ და ორივე დაიხოცებიანო. ამიტომ ჯერ ერთმანეთის სიყვარული ისწავლეთ და პატივისცემა, მერე გადავწყვიტოთ კოსმოსის საკითხები😊🇬🇪
So you dragooned and enslaved some more Kerbals and made them go on your little Mars trip. Hope you're proud of yourselves because the history books will not look kindly upon this absolutely horrific chapter of our history.
Try that first with a 1/10 scale unmanned vehicle, to see if it works or not. It probably won't. If it does work then build the full-sized version and see if that works.
Kind of reminds me of the ship from the movie "Conquest of Space". So many unrealized ideas for winged spaceflight. Another interesting space plane concept was the caret wing waverider that Terence Nonweiler proposed back in the 1950s.
I read somewhere that the production designer for the original 1968 film Planet of the Apes used this concept to create the movie's spacecraft that would later be called the "Icarus." The film designer's renderings of the complete vehicle, unseen booster included, looked very much like this.
I read an analysis of the movie once that was pretty interesting. But it lost me when it insisted that one of the characters was supposed to be gay,so.......
Bcs you watched a movie here as well
😍Beautiful work, as always!
I never previously knew about this concept. Since it wasn't until July 14-15, 1965, when Mariner 4 completed its flyby reconnaissance of Mars, that we discovered that Mars has 1-100th of the atmospheric density of Earth, Mr. Bono can be forgiven for selecting a glider configuration for his crewed Mars lander. (Earlier crewed Mars mission architectures made the same assumptions - notably Wernher von Braun's "Marsprojekt", and the lifting-body design of Aeronutronic, a defense related division of Ford Aerospace).
There's a distinct change in the concepts from before and after. I think the first detailed concept after was the North American Rockwell one, and most follow a similar theme from there on. Earlier ones all use a lot more aero.
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@@dogmaticpyrrhonist543 Starting at 2:55, who is filming??
@@elciosampaio2018 Welcome to the channel, it's all CGI, of f*cking course.
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I’m impressed by how well everything is thought out. Atmosphere too thin to slow down enough? Pop a chute to get the drag you need! No runway? No problem, just land vertically! Don’t want to drag the now dead weight of empty fuel tanks and useless engines? Just cut the glider in half!
I've wondered why Starship, once in orbit, could not detach what's needed to get to the moon, down and up and back. It would have to be huge fuel savings.
@@jameswilson5165 "detach what's needed?" What do you mean?
@@maheshch1829 Why land the entire ship? Make the cone with draco thrusters detach and land. The Moon and Mars's gravity would allow this.
@@maheshch1829 he means starship is just the LEO delivery system. Like saturn 5 was for the apollo crafts
@@Madhuntr got it. Thanks
Not to nitpick, but there are some minor errors:
- the stage separates from the glider before it enters Mars orbit, so that the glider does a direct entry
- the orange tank around it is supposed to be discarded before heading to Earth, as it is empty by that point.
- as the nose of the glider contains a reactor, it is supposed to be dismounted during the surface operations.
- before liftoff from Mars, the rear of the glider is supposed to be anchored via cables
Otherwise, great job on this rarely-known concept!
Literally to nitpick
Don't feel bad about nitpicking. It's interesting information. :)
To nitpick or not to nitpick, that is the question.
Gorgeous use of actual Mars renderings and images. The view during descent over Tharsis was very Kubrick-style. I recognize the landing site; it appears to be Curiosity's home, Gale Crater, as the backdrop of Mt. Sharp is my computer desktop background. Phil Bono would be proud of this.
That ain't Tharsis, that is Valles Marineris
@@mariasirona1622 Valles Marineris is part of the Tharsis region.
@@kspencerian what? No. Tharsis is the four big mountains and the land in between them
@@mariasirona1622 I see what you're saying. The canyon borders Tharsis and is part of the eastern plateau. Its likelihood as a tectonic crack caused by volcanic activity has been my understanding and proximity.
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I remember spending hours looking at the mars mission article in my World Book. Part of that mission profile was extending a boom from the landing craft and spinning the entire craft for gravity during the cruise phase. The video shows a more updated architecture with a reusable nuclear booster?
It’s a joy to see something from my childhood imagination rendered in an awesome animation
Thank you Bravo congratulations more amazing missions, breathtaking with tears. Thank you once again
With that music at the beginning I half expected to hear: "Hello, I'm Michael Anis and this is Episode 266: Apollo 13 - “Houston, we’ve had a problem.” - Part 1..." It just gets me in the right mood.
Those old designs were something else. This does not look like it has any abort options or margin of error, designed long before NASA became risk-averse. I really like the Plug Nozzle Boosters and Injection Stage.
The original concept had the forward section of the glider as the crew return capsule, which presumably could have been part of an escape mechanism. It was the only part of the craft that was designed to renter the atmosphere and splash down.
This is the channel where once you get to know the channel you click like and save even before watching the video. 🚀
That's EXACTLY what I do!
I clicked like for your comment before I finished reading it
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Bono Manned Mars Vehicle Mission Summary:
Summary: First serious single-launch Mars expedition design
Propulsion: LOX/LH2
Braking at Mars: aerodynamic
Mission Type: conjunction
Split or All-Up: all up
ISRU: no ISRU
Launch Year: 1971
Crew: 8
Mars Surface payload-metric tons: 480
Outbound time-days: 259
Mars Stay Time-days: 490
Return Time-days: 248
Total Mission Time-days: 997
Total Payload Required in Low Earth Orbit-metric tons: 800
Total Propellant Required-metric tons: 500
Propellant Fraction: 0.62
Mass per crew-metric tons: 100
Launch Vehicle Payload to LEO-metric tons: 800
Number of Launches Required to Assemble Payload in Low Earth Orbit: 1
Launch Vehicle: Bono HLV
Mr. Bono estimated Mars' atmosphere to be 80mb pressure, 10X greater than what Mariner 4 discovered. His design would need to be redone around these numbers.
i got so many rabbit holes going into deeper rabbit holes, i don't know where i began anymore.
We have seen many wild concepts brought beautifully to life by Hazegrayart, but this may be the most poorly considered. Guaranteed loss of crew on Mars landing if not sooner.
Yeah. Still cool. If only live in that mythical future. Unlimited funds. Unlimited cheap petroleum. Radiation without long-term effects. Landing an aircraft on a rock-strewn surface.
I like how this shows Mars’ atmosphere as blue, not orange, as it sometimes is not
Culture shocl
Aerospike SRBs + Aerospike Stages + shuttle mk2 = my 1st duna mission
Extra credit for showing the craft pointed backwards during Orbital Insertion.
So many movies and videos show spacecraft still pointing forwards with thrusters on - as if they wanted to crash into the planet.
What was the point of the Glider? It does not need to glide at all! Why glide?
You are landing vertically, you are taking off with almost as much thrust required for vertical t.o. And to land, you can't do it without the chute, cause atmosphere is too thin! Why glide?
Sana sonra cevabını vereceğim şimdi müsait değilim😅
I never heard of this concept before. Beautiful as always, keep up the good work.
It's always a good day when I see a new Hazegrayart video.
Great job....that would be a sight to behold on launch day...maybe about 30 miles away,want to keep my hearing....
Note astronaut is only 4 feet tall.🤔👌
This craft looks ksp levels of jank. 10/10
Yep I see a new design in KSP to work on.
Don't forget, the glider needs to work in 8mb atmosphere, Mars equivalent. Not the 80mb as Mr. Bono had based this on.
@@Nighthawke70 yeah, even after the early landers confirmed the extremely thin atmosphere they still had the glider mission as an example of a manned mission to mars in world book encyclopedias.
Stunningly gorgeous. Movie quality - I was transfixed.
Greatly enjoying these CGs of past space explortion ideas
See a notice and drop whatever else I'm doing...as always incredible except it's all totally believable. Thanks and cheers.
0:12, 3 May 1971. I was living at Camp Fidel and working with an electronic intelligence gathering unit on the north perimeter of Phu Cat Air Force Base, Vietnam .
I saw rockets being launched when I was there too. Perhaps not on that actual day though. 122mm Katyusha rockets.
This is really KERBAL. Love it
"How many boosters do you think are needed?"
"All of them."
Is that like Sonny Bono?
Well I guessed right :) And as always an awesome rendition of a plausible mission
Excellent.
that looks like some launch vehicle made in ksp.
Wow, amazing stuff and this shows how clever humans are💯💯💯
The Mars Glider is just a concept that NASA uses in their personality test for new astronaut candidates. If a new recruit says they'd be willing to fly a Boeing death-trap to Mars and back, they are rejected from the space program.
The April Fools trick here was played by Mars on us by making us believe it had a thick atmosphere.
Can you cluster aerospike engines?
I thought they required undisturbed aerodynamics (the same air pressure) on all sides.
Let‘s launch an SSTM next time!
Another great video! Tnanks so much!
Thanks for sharing this massage, especially Mars mission.
Как всегда невероятно круто!
Watch out for drones Pavel
@@dziban303 if that guy's a Ukrainian what you just said could be interpreted as pro-Shahed terrorist attacks, not pro-use of drones on invading soldiers.
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yes very very good work, keep it up
Cameraman never dies 😏
I am 65 years old. I hope I live long enough to see the day humanity steps on Mars.
A work of art! I'm a fan!
I too wish nasa had the budget of the US Military
That is in trillion!
But wish to maket how long and year to planet///!
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@@adityasusantapandait is around 604 billion
@@bluedream5095 2022-$1.5trillion budget for Fiscal Year 2022...
awesome! sound effects
that's what they sent back, it's how to break orbit, it's a honeycomb!
Like always, impressive work, you never disappoint !
AMAZINGNES!!!
Looks great 👌
Meyer Habib dans la fusée cachee
Yes
They forgot to turn the light off in thier shelter before leaving.
NOOOOOOO
Imo one thing that should be employed in any manned Mars mission is Resource Extraction portion that focuses on extracting either chemical fuel and oxidizer from either Diemos or Phobus. Or propellant to be used in a nuclear powered spacecraft. But then I am neither a mission planner or an aerospace engineer.
Magnificent 🤗❤️
Awesome video ! I love it so much . Thank you for sharing it to us with pleasure . Happy week-end to you !
This is amazing! I'm very curious as to how you have the craft launch at Cape Canaveral, is the entire scene an image underneath the animation? Or an actual setup? I'd love to know!
It's all animation
This is a nice one, very intelligent by the way is done !...
Yeah
It's april fools tommorow. Why not do the Douglas Astro next?
Awesome 💪
Great stuff. The booster engines puzzled me, though? At first I thought thy were aerospikes, but the shape looks wrong, more like a dome than a spike. What are they>
Very interesting. Probably a little outdated, but does look feasible.
*IMPRESSIVE.*
Could you do an animation of the Delta-glider from Orbiter?
An alternate universe where earth has a big interest in space exploration.
Tonight on "The Way Things Should Have Been"
没有720P么？
This Craft looks eerily similar to the so called "Black Triangle" UFOs especially when its Landing.
Fr fr
Show of tecnologic specie.
Nice.
Excellent
Wow! Incredible visual creation! What do you use to create these visuals? What is the name of the artist / team?
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Why do thry use a first stage so long?
ემასე სად რა გაისროლა და გამოძვრა თან მაგოდენა საწვავი დახარჯა რა გამოვიდა, არაფერი. ძრავა სხვანაირად რომ ავაწყოთ არ გაწყობთ?🇬🇪
Жаль, что на Марсе недопустимо высокий радиационный фон и космонавты получат максимально допустимую за всю их карьеру дозу радиации...
С этим надо что-то решать...
Amazing ❤ United States Of America 💪
man I can't imagine the time it took to reach that skill level of yours
The trouble I have with this is that it assumes that Mars has a much denser atmosphere than it really has
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Ok merci pour
შემიძლია სიცოცხლისათვის ხელსაყრელი პირობები შევქმნა მთვარეზეც და მარსზეც მაგრამ ღმერთი უარზეა, მერე ომს დაიწყებენ და ორივე დაიხოცებიანო. ამიტომ ჯერ ერთმანეთის სიყვარული ისწავლეთ და პატივისცემა, მერე გადავწყვიტოთ კოსმოსის საკითხები😊🇬🇪
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Ok merci beaucou
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Very interesting thanks to you sir
Good
I thought this was an april fools prank video
5:00 eeer skipping reentry much?
aero spike?
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So you dragooned and enslaved some more Kerbals and made them go on your little Mars trip. Hope you're proud of yourselves because the history books will not look kindly upon this absolutely horrific chapter of our history.
U forget to fix heat shield😂
Try that first with a 1/10 scale unmanned vehicle, to see if it works or not. It probably won't. If it does work then build the full-sized version and see if that works.
Who and how do they film this ????
It's a 3d animation
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