Bro Fr whenever I see those shorts talking abt “women vs girls” in Kpop I always get second hand embarrassment. And it’s mostly like the female idols who are perceived as cute that are in the girls section and it’s like 💀 are women not allowed to be cute?? Tf I agree w ur last point. The amount of Armies/Tae Stans I’ve seen hating on Jen is just horrendous. They acting like Jennie is holding a gun to Taehyung’s head or something 😭 (Blinks/Jensetters are also being incredibly vile towards Tae)
I agree with you on both of these points, especially with toxic Armys being hateful towards Jennie for allegedly dating V, they need to grow up already, V will never pick you!!
@@tolanisimpson5360 honestly hate both fandoms, blink and army. However what I've seen armys do totally changed my mind about armys and even BTS. They are just horrible people. Mean bullies. Do you believe I've literally witnessed a couple of armys laugh at Jennie's dog's death?☠ and when I said why would you pull such stunt and be such disturbing human being, they said it's just because we hate Jennie. I now literally believe army fandom is just full of mean bullies.
I actually love your last confession because I don’t hear this take a lot and I actually agree with it for multiple reason. I also believe feelings of jealousy are normal to an extent especially in an industry like kpop which is built on the interaction and relationship between fans and idols. These companies literally capitalize on it, that’s why they make so many variety shows, game shows, vlogs, etc, they want you to ‘fall’ for those idols and consider them apart of your life so developing a crush, as unrealistic as it is really, still makes sense. I also think a lot of kpop fans are very young, most teenagers or young adults and are at the age of exploring their feelings of attraction, sexuality, etc, so it only makes sense that they could develope certain feelings for their favorite idols. These idols & companies also entertain them by constantly catering to what their fans want so again, it only makes sense. I do however still believe idols should be allowed to date, including publicly... I think reinforcing the idea that while these crushes are possible and understandable, they are still unrealistic at the end of the day... I think if dating was less hush hush we’d see less of those crushes being taken to the extreme because fans would have no other choice but to make peace with it. So yes, I think it’s normal to have a crush on your idols but it’s not normal to become possessive of them and also hateful if they start dating someone.
In my opinion, i honestly think it's just downright rude and disrespectful to always be commenting on someone's body. I swear, kpop fans are way too aware of every ounce of oxygen an idol drops/gains it's insane. I mean, yes you're going to notice when they gain or lose weight they're in the spotlight all time but its just completely unnecessary to bring it up everytime they're on screen. I may be just dumb but if it weren't for dives constantly bringing up Liz's gain weight i honestly wouldn't have noticed it and it's this obsessive and unclassy behavior that causes companies to force idols into extreme diets. What they're doing is wrong of course and I'm not about to justify that. However, I also think that sometimes we just need to shut the fuck up about certain stuff because we're don't know these idols and we don't know what they're going through or dealing with.
You're so right, obviously we can all agree that fatshaming is disgusting, but even those people who bash idols for being skinny are terrible. The thing is, idols are aware of their bodies and if they have eating disorders the last thing they need is seeing everyone talking about it online. Do people think they're helping their idols by making a tweet about their bodies? I feel like weight is really one of those things we shouldn't talk about because it does more harm than good.
@@soft4taeng Yes, you made a really good point. Honestly, even assuming that an idol has an eating disorder is very intrusive behavior in my opinion. Because even if they do, as a random stranger on the internet, what's your unasked for input going to do to help? Body image is a topic that should be discussed with clear boundaries and lines even between friends so I just don't understand what gives these crazy fans the audacity to nitpick everything. The worst part about it is that they also have no shame. Like there were people online literally discussing whether wonyoung gets her period or not. And then theywonder why idols get defensive or emotional when someone talks about their weight.
So you guys meant eunbi and yuri's concern was also useless?? I'm a hard-core wonyoung stan but the truth is idols never choose their w3ight it's always the company. For example, liz she was being starved by the company, I know hating on wonyoung is bad. We should actually blame the beauty standards that are destroying young girls who aren't even 20+ She wouldn't have problems now, but in the future, when she'll be 25+ Like 14 bmi, are u kidding me?
To be honest it's not foreign idols debuting itself that bothers me it's just the way people respond to it. like if your gonna point it out and surround the idol and their group around the fact that it's a non-Asian debuting then u clearly don't actually care about the music or the idol themselves. Like people say we should normalize these idols debuting but if you're gonna make a big deal about then that's not normalizing it. Edit: I thought this was obvious but I guess it's not, but when I mean foreign idols in kpop I mean non-korean idols (eg. Chinese, Japanese, thai etc.) because obviously these things do happen to those idols alot. So I'm not just talking about non-aisan idols but just non-korean idols.
"If you're saying you should "normalize" something and then make a big deal about it, then it's not normalizing." That statement really opened my eyes because it's literally so true. People misuse/exaggerate words/terms like these. Normalize (in my own words, so uhh, maybe im also wrong LOL) I think it means "something unusual by the standards of a certain community/people that shouldn't be unusual in the first place. Hence, they shouldn't care/make a big deal that much when it actually happens, this also includes very positive reactions to it happening - because ur technically not normalizing it." Even outside of kpop people misuse a term like this- it's just weird
And I hate how most of the orbits talk like loona are lesbians and loona are only for the lgbt community and when they enteract with men they will act disgusting saying get this men away from my girls like wth in the loonaverse are you serious?
i mean if it makes you feel better right infront of the jype building there's what i think it's a shop and it has the Buddhist symbol right in front of it which is a swastika but looking the other way, she probably confused the 2 since a lot of people do.
I can't believe the western world is this self involved. You actually believe WW2 and it's details should be some kind of enforced global knowledge? What should the qualifications of this "global knowledge" entail? 2 million deaths? Can you NOT hear how ridiculous and wrong this sounds like? She has apologies and your witch hunting only spread uncertainty and makes it HARDER for people to ask questions and learn, out of fear of the backlash. IF hating her makes you feel better you should look in the mirror, educate yourself on all the terrors currently happening in our world and ask yourself, am I perpetuating any of these ideals, thus furthering dictators and terrorists agendas? And if a girl wearing a shirt is doing a "better" job furthering hate and violence in this world than I am currently with my ideals and my way of living, then you can judge freely. I can guarantee you, unbiasedly , most of you out there are doing a much better job at spreading nazism, racism and sexism than Chaeyoung of TWICE is.
With confession 1, I feel like this sort of thing can apply to popular members in general who overshadow their group and aren’t that known for their talents (Cha Eunwoo, Chuu, etc). It’s pretty inevitable in Kpop groups no matter what.
Honestly, I don't like it when stans demand for their idols to have more lines. I understand wanting your bias to have more lines, but these stans don't take the idols feelings into consideration. What if that idol doesn't want alot of lines, what if they don't like the song, what if they like dancing more than singing? These stans are also probably putting alot of pressure on these idols. Let's take Sakura for example, she's been in the industry for a long time but the vocal training she had was really bad, and it's hard to grow out of habits you've known since you were a kid and obviously stans were upset that she didn't have alot of lines in Izone, but I'm pretty sure they understood why that was the case. But now that she's finally getting proper lessons, these stans are now demanding for her to get more lines despite the fact that she's not had these lessons for a long time and it would take a long time for her to grow out of her old singing habits. Sakura herself has said that she didn't want alot of lines yet fans are still going against her wishes. I don't like assuming idols true feelings but I don't think it's a stretch to say that she probably feels like she isn't good enough for her fans( she is good enough and even better ) when the main problem is her fans not giving her enough time and going against what she wants. They also fail to take into consideration that the song had to actually sound good and if the idol can't sing that song or doesn't match the concept then they obviously shouldn't be having alot of lines for it.
I fully agree like if someone is in a big group and they are only a sub tapper\voclalist they shouldn't be getting upset like the point of positions is so you get parts that fit u and if it's not a lot it isn't a lot! Like I get being angry if the main vocal gets the least but the sub rapper\vocalist honestly stand need to chill
it’s actually really valid that people lost their respect for chae like how could you not see that validity in that… i personally still wanted her in TWICE but it does leave a sour taste in my mouth every time i see her so it’s weird.
Same, like I'm Ot9, and I'm holding her accountable, but I hate that this incident is all I can see whenever I see her face. Like, I love Chaeyoung and she's very talented but what she did was unacceptable and the ones that are completely brushing it off are just proving that they don't care about people in other cultures and how something like this could affect them.
@keepitsecret-dl1pr Holding people accountable for things that they did is problematic now? I don't hate Chaeyoung, i love Chaeyoung, but some things you can't just brush off, especially if people truly felt affected by it. I don't spread hate about her or anything, in fact I tell people not to spread hate
Dahyun walks around with a cross all the time, the symbol of the most horrific and murderous organization of all time, the church, and no one has ever said anything about it. Chaeyoung wore it because she is edgy and then she apologized - what would have solved it for you? Or is anyone who buys a 10$ merch shirt in a thrift shop eternally doomed?
I love how unbiased your opinions are, honestly most of Kpops problems are caused by fans. As a Jewish person Chaeyoung makes me so uncomfortable more than angry and she only apologized because of the reaction online. I’m so curious about how TWICE reacted when it first happened, and if any of them cared. Fans will always say disgusting things and forgive but idols have different powers!
Did she tell you that or are you assuming because you want something to be mad about? You didn’t go to a concentration camp for being Jewish, you were never spat on or physically harassed for being Jewish. You do not have the right to complain
you're allowed to feel uncomfortable with Chaeyoung but what is this??? not to mention the building literally infront of JYPE has a the Buddhist symbol right in front of it which is a swastika but looking the other way, she probably confused the 2 since a lot of people do.
@@meemaw2200the whole thing with the nazis created generational trauma among many Jewish families. I don’t get your point???? Also that person will always be a target of Jewish hate, so they can be absolutely mad at her for it.
My confession is I don’t understand the point of super temporary groups like izone or Kepler. Like what’s the point of getting into group that’ll be dissolved so soon? It’s an instant turn of to me. Nothing against the girls in those groups or the music it just seems like I’m setting myself up to be sad when they disband.
my confession is that kpop stans don't know what the word accountability is. a girl from kiss of life said the n word a few years ago and she apologised just now, and as a member of the black community, i accept her apology. but that doesn't mean that she shouldn't have been criticised. that's the one thing netizens do right imo, is that when idols say derogatory words they make them understand their mistake usually. but ppl were defending her saying it was a few years ago so she shouldn't apologise, netizens need to touch grass, etc. it's mature of her to apologise but don't forget that she said the word and she needed to apologise. and she's american so I sincerely doubt she didn't know what it meant.
Exactly ima black K-pop stan as well and tbh I’m just tired of still seeing K-pop stars say the word. Like even if they didn’t know about it they should see the scandals which their have been a lot of these scandals and learn from them but nope. It’s giving that a lot of them just don’t care because if they did why would this still be happening?
@@blackbluesette6577 exactly like i understand in some cases it's just ignorance/not knowing the word but they've likely seen a lot of the scandals happening to other idols enough to know the word was probably controversial and they shouldn't say it.
i honestly agree w the chaeyoung opinion. i obviously don't think she's a nzi or wore it with malicious intentions, but the entire situation was such a huge display of ignorance/carelessness and it has completely (and subconsciously) changed my view on chaeyoung. i simply cannot see her in the same light, even if were to try to move on past the scandal.
Well the thing is, she didn't realize and nobody told her. And it wasn't a Nazi shirt. It was a shirt for I think the Sex Pistols and isn't chae into rock?
@@holdmyravioli1286 again, if she didn't realize, it's such an incredible display of ignorance that it becomes hard to ignore. either way, the sex pistols were all shitheads, ESPECIALLY sid vicious (the guy featured on the shirt), so that wouldn't really help her case anyway.
Honestly, over the years in K-pop. girl groups have got far better at music than boy groups. I don't know if I am the only one that sees it but its like literally almost all boy groups music these days- except a few is about drastic beat drops and hard dances, while girl groups experiment more with sounds and genres.
I am a pretty big bg stan but gen 4 changed me in a way I can't express 2022 was THE YEAR for kpop ggs and I was eating it up! Even twices album that came out that year was so good and I never listened to twice honestly bg stans who aren't listening to any ggs nowadays are missing out
I honestly can't stand most girl groups, I can't explain why but their music makes me cringe hard most of the time💀 I mean, many of them are super talented and stuff, but I just can't like their music and I have no Idea why
Have u actually listened to more than 2 bg cuz I can think of so many bg songs that don’t sound like the usual girl crush concept song 😂 like I’m sorry u gg Stan’s complaining about bg music haven’t actually looked into more than a few bg discography and looked into underrated groups
you've clearly been listening to only one or two bgs because not every group is making noise music. If music like nct or stray kids doesn't suit your taste then go listen to other groups just like you would for girl groups (ateez, oneus, there are so many) you're just limiting yourself to a few groups and generalize that ggs are better than bgs.
Tbh I think a lot of bunnies are just really ignorant and stupid. And I think they kind of worship new jeans because of how good their concept and music is which it is. Tbh tho, in my opinion bunnies as a fandom is just an extreme version of what many other K-pop fandoms always do. Like a lot of K-pop stans worship their idols like perfect flawless gods or whatever, and are so blinded by their love for them that they don’t stop to consider the bad and toxic things surrounding the group. And also a lot of them may take criticism towards min heejin as people hating on new jeans which most ppl I see don’t. And criticizing the concept and music that’s not appropriate for minors that new jeans got is not at all hating on the group but a lot of them take it super personally and view it as that.
My kpop confessions: 🔹️Minors shouldn't debut 🔹️Saying "Woman group" is valid, i support it and how you feel about it is subjective 🔹️BTS gets away with a lot of sh1* 🔹️there's a lot of male privilege and fatphobia in kpop! 🔹️A lot of kpop fans are extremely homophobic and bully idols if they find out they're not straight!😐
my take one chae: i stan twice and i still am an ot9 i love them all. im not jew im also not fully educated on the matter (still trying to learn more) but im still holding her accountable her talent is good n all but what she did is wrong even concidering that jyp even confirmed that they give history lessons so no matter what delulu onces (sorry for them) will always try look for an exuse i hope she learnt her lesson. becuase what she did was disgusting
Honestly i don't have a problem with OT9 onces, i just have a problem with those who try and excuse her behavior. You can still chose to support everyone while still holding her accountable. I didn't know about JYP giving them history lessons...that makes it even worse.
@@soft4taeng he confirmed it himself and geopraphy im pretty sure some other stuff so if she so happend to not learn it in school she still was taught about it at the company
The first one is so true and when I tell people that then they just say I’m jealous and that I don’t like to see diversity in kpop. When in reality I just don’t like how Blackswan is only hyped and talked about because of their ethnicity and some people over do it when they try hype the group up, I’ve heard people saying that they will be as successful as BP and that their song Karma should win SOTY which is so unrealistic. People (mainly international fans) don’t care about what the group has to offer, they just use Blackswan to boast about how kpop should be diverse and they just obsess over their ethnicity especially with Fatou.
bro frr! the group X: IN would be unknown without aria, and now ppl are saying their song "keeping the fire" should win awards when that song is literally dog shit 😭 now something else I realised is how ppl are now comparing the two Indian idols ( aria and sriya) and its honesty gross
recently i've been seeing more people stop only caring about how diveres the group is and start actually talking about them as people and their talents I've even seen Koreans start hyping them up, hopefully people will start focusing on them as people more
I get your point and I think it’s stupid that foreign idols are often only reduced down to their ethnicity when they’re all very talented at what they do, but it’s ignorant to think that there are only Koreans in Korea, when there are people of all ethnicities and backgrounds who live there and were born there. Why shouldn’t the industry become more diverse to reflect that? It also opens up the talent pool tenfold when you’re not excluding someone from training and debuting just because they aren’t Asian. People heavily focus on idols of different race and make it a big deal because it’s not common right now, but the more it happens the less remarkable it will be, and that’s the goal of actual diversity: make having people of all different looks and backgrounds so normalized that it’s not anything to gawk at.
As someone who has German and Jewish ancestry (Even though I myself am not jewish) I still hold Chaeyoung accountable, her actions aren’t ones that should be just “forgive and forget” (if you know what I mean)
i mean if it makes you feel better right infront of the jype building there's what i think it's a shop and it has the Buddhist symbol right in front of it which is a swastika but looking the other way, she probably confused the 2 since a lot of people do.
@@redloona1085she has worn it in a Jewish restaurant… that T-shirt is rare. Sid vicious had a history of making fun of Jews and the concentration camp. Chaeyoung is a punk fan
@An.Nora5 lets not spread misinformation or information that can't be confirmed or denied. That shirt and variations are easy to find just by googling sid vicious shirt. I've seen it from 10 usd to a little under 40 usd We dont know where/who she got it from. We can be upset and disappointed, but let's only hold her accountable for things we know as fact
That war was absolutely tragic, how can there be people who don't know about this? It was a WORLD war, how is it even possible someone can be that clueless?
@@soft4taengikr, most of the things I learned in WW2 were not in school but on tv(for those lying it's only in school and that she didn't attend school). There are always those history channels explaining what happened and I'm surprised that south Korea which is the country where 96% of the population has access to internet doesn't know about the Nazis or Adolf Hitler, the murders, the deaths, the Holocaust and everything. I'm not even Jewish but ik it last from 1939-1945, that's basic knowledge you would think ? It's our history c'mon. She knows, wether ppl believe it or not.
@@soft4taengIronic considering japan did the same thing to China and Korea, and Germany sided with them. I’m pretty sure Korea would teach this in school since it was an important event in history for Asia, so not sure why Chaeyoung thought it was okay to wear the Nazi shirt.
not you everglow-up using an actual war just to make yourself look nice here, when its you who makes fun of sulli, hara, jonghyun, moonbin etc and wished other idols the same fate too all the time.
also love how right here you say you did learn most of ww2 outside of school but are always the first one to hate on all idols when they are ignorant about something that no korean school teaches in the first place.
Chaeyoung knew what she was doing. Everyone needs to stop trying to defend her it’s actually getting wild that people would put their idols before their morals. Because they’re a kpop idol they can do what they want? The excuses make no sense. The shirt is hard to get because it is no longer manufactured and it was manufactured long ago. The shirt goes for anywhere between 500$-2k$ and is hard to find. This ain’t no stylist issue cause she wore this in her every day life and clearly bought and owns the shirt. And the fact that you can also buy the shirt WITHOUT the swastika. Too many factors played in here. There is literally no excuse. I also lost my respect for chaeyoung. I biased her before this issue. She is a grown woman. She should know what she was doing.
@wintersblackmamba There is a lot of misinformation in what you wrote. First of all the shirt isn't that rare as after a quick google search I found a similar one being sold on ebay. (Not the exact same but still with the symbol and the same person). If it can be sold online for cheap who's to say she didn't just thrift it. Second of all, she wore it in public surrounded by not only other twice members but their staff and team too. Somebody had to even take a picture of her with the shirt on. Surely if they were aware of her shirt they would call her out and make her change not let her take pictures and post them online. However, they did not. Are we going to say everyone in the vicinity is a nazi too? It just isn't logical. Do I think Chaeyoung deserves criticism for her actions? Absolutely. Should she be held accountable so cases like these don't become normalised? Of course! But should we try and paint her to be a hateful nazi who would put not only her career but her groups career in jeopardy because she's evil? I don't think so.
i just can’t look at chaeyoung the same way anymore like my whole perception of her has changed, not saying she _is_ antisemitic or anything like that but the whole stuff and the way it was handled rubbed me the wrong way
I completely agree with the opinion on Chaeyoung. That's too deliberate, she wore it multiple times in photos on different days, too. She was really becoming one of my biases in Twice but after that I entirely stopped supporting her or streaming any of her personal fancams and performances
Not true. Those were lies spread by haters. She wore the shirt on ONE day, and they went to multiple events on that day, and had their picture taken at different places.
@wiiboiwill interesting, but either way, as someone with Jewish Holocaust survivors and POWs in my family, and simply as a person very intolerant of antisemitism and naziism, I think one time is frankly TOO MANY
@@Enfjscrolling I agree, that one time is one too many, however it is still important to think of the intentions of the offender. It wasn't her intention to wear anything n*zi related, but because of her ignorance she did, and that is not acceptable. I'm not sure where this ignorance stems, whether it's cultural, lack of school education (she only attended school properly up until middle school), a failure from the company to keep their idols socially and historically aware, or if it was her own unwillingness to learn. It seems to me like this incident is a failure of education on a larger scale, because what idiot of an idol would intentionally jeopardize their own careers by being outwardly antisemitic? Regardless I understand an unwillingness to support her currently and in the future, I just wish people don't call her a n*zi because it is clear as day that she isn't one, she's simply ignorant. She's not a hateful person.
@@Enfjscrolling also wouldn't you think that the managers would've made her change the moment they saw the shirt? It seems to me like the symbolism from WWII is not really touched upon in Korean education, because why did nobody say something? Why didn't the members say anything? Management? Staff? It seems like a KOREA problem more so than a Chaeyoung specific problem. One that NEEDS to be addressed. Because it is obviously not okay to wear antisemitic imagery.
as an ot9 once, i'm just neutral on chaeyoung for now. i don't think she's a n4zi or supports anti-semitism and i don't agree with some of the threats people have sent out to her.....BUT i do think she's incredibly stupid and ignorant. i love twice, they're my first ult gg in kpop but chaeyoung caused me to take a short break from them. i appreciate what she brings to twice or her as a twice member but i'm just incredibly disappointed in her. i just hope she educated herself on why what she did was wrong. maybe my feelings will change in the future but as of of now, i'm just neutral towards her🙍🏾♀️. also i don't think your opinion on her is controversial lol. the opinion is a widespread opinion that kpop stans now hold. the only people who will find it controversial (or disagree with your opinion) are hardcore onces.
i mean if it makes you feel better right infront of the jype building there's what i think it's a shop and it has the Buddhist symbol right in front of it which is a swastika but looking the other way, she probably confused the 2 since a lot of people do.
agreed heavily on the chae one, i can NEVER see her same after the shirt. Her apology almost pushed it off to the side and almost pulled a “i didn’t know sorry”. so annoying ugh
I honestly don't think she realized. I didn't either. I don't know what you wanted in her apology but she did everything right. She addressed why she was sorry. She deleted the post and most likely got rid of the shirt. I believe the shirt was a Sex Pistols shirt and doesn't chae like rock music? Why would a popular Korean idol be a white supremacist? It was an accident. Not saying it's ok but from what I'm seeing by her saying she didn't know the meaning and the fact that there is a large bhuddist and Hindu population in Asia, she may have confused it with a manji, a symbol of peace that was made waaaaay before nazis
I lost all the respect I had for Chaeyoung, I lost any kind of interest in her, I unstanned twice, I don't support any of the members, I unfollowed all twice accounts, I can not stand looking at her. I loved twice, but what happened is something that can not be forgiven. If I was JYP, I would've kicked Chae out of the group, yes, (some, maybe most) onces would be extremely loud and annoying and maybe even stop supporting twice, but let's be honest, twice can survive without her (by which, I don't mean to say that she isn't talented, just that twice would still be successful even as a group with only 8 members and her leaving the group wouldn't be fatal for twice)
Here's my take on this video: Confession 1: I'm not gonna lie, I was thrown off at first but after you explained why you feel that way, I saw your point and I agree with you. Confession 2: As someone who was born and raised in Europe, I fully agree with you, I feel the same way you do in this context. What Chaeyoung did was disgusting and unacceptable. Confession 3: Yes, I can see your point, I am not a fan of any of the groups you mentioned so I can't really say anything about their relationship. Confession 4: I definitely see your point, you're not the only one in this context. Confession 5: I completely agree with you, I can't stand it either, they try way too hard to seem/be different. Confession 6: I understand your point. Confession 7: I don't really care for survival shows but I understand why you like them. Confession 8: I agree with you point, in a way, I was kind of like this as well. Confession 9: I agree with you. As long as you do not attack your bias nor the person they're dating, it's ok to feel that way. Just be responsible with your emotions. I loved this video, it made me think about certain things in a different perspective. I hope you have an amazing day!!❤❤❤❤❤
Y’all can be mad at chaeyoung, but the video was wrong about the dumbest person on earth would know about the holocaust and all the Nazi symbols. I can think examples of idols using the hakenkreuz for official photoshoots, posing on a holocaust memorial, and wearing a necklace with the hakenkreuz during their time off. This is obviously a common occurrence in K-pop if not sk in general
as someone raised in europe you just literally admit that you dont even know how koreans are raised and what they learn in school, so thank you for nicely admitting to be yet another hater trying hard to make another innocent idol look bad over an ignorant mistake and show nicely that you are by far worse than her.
@@pruitv4 like it’s fine for people to not support her anymore, no one is required to forgive. But people are not holding her to the same standard as any other idol who has done the same/worse and hasn’t apologized.
MAMAMOO are a women group. Soooooooo….. what’s your point? This is hilarious, “kpop is not that serious” yet you got a whole video making controversial confessions. 😂
I’m also a moo and this has always bugged me 😅 Just go into any reaction video and I can guarantee you can find multiple of those comments… I assume these are mainly the same people over and over again but the habit has spread quite a bit among moomoos so-
sorry but we are right. out of all gg groups mamamoo is the only one who behaves like adult women. other gg are adult women but act like 13 year old girls. sorry but I have never seen adult people behave like little children. it's so cringe and thats why when you discover mamamoo you see adults acting like adults how it should be
About Chaeyoung, as I understood she did wear a t-Shirt from sex pistols, and the point of this T-shirt it’s like against holocaust, but I think it’s not the best option to wear something, if the message is not so clear. So yeah, weird situation with her
Kpop is NOT a genre. It's an industry and I hate it when kpoppies mix the two. Anyone and everyone can be a kpop idol because its an industry. That's why there are so many genres within this Kpop industry. You don't see anyone say "oh non asians can't be part of xyz industry" just because they are a minority in that industry. (in this case kpop industry comprises of mostly koreans which make them the majority). The problem with your first confession is the fact that you dislike seeing non asians debuting in kpop groups but in your description for the confession you talked about the kpop fans ?? your problem is with the fans so you should've said that you dislike how fans only talk about the ethnicity, that's not the the idol's problems, that's just the fans' problem. You shouldn't say that you dislike that non asian/poc artists debuting in kpop groups, rather you should've said that you dislike the stuff the fans' say. What that gotta do w the idol?
about the chaeyoung situation, i love my girl. but what she did was wrong & disrespectful. it was very ignorant of her if she didn’t actually know & if she did then that’s downright rude & absolutely horrible. i hate seeing other ot9 onces defending her, ppl have the right to be upset. like y’all forgave chaeyoung SO quickly but y’all still can’t forgive giselle? i’m not jewish, but it hurts me to see how she could make such a careless mistake like that/maybe on purpose
i mean if it makes you feel better right infront of the jype building there's what i think it's a shop and it has the Buddhist symbol right in front of it which is a swastika but looking the other way, she probably confused the 2 since a lot of people do.
People forgave her because she obviously didn't realize and she apologized and took the photo down. Giselle knew better and knew what the word meant and is likely still in aespa because of nepotism.
I really liked the last confession. You said the exact thoughts I had for when the taehyung and Jennie dating rumors came out . Like tae is not even my bias or anything but I felt bad for those who were getting criticised because they felt some type of way when tae was dating someone, like it’s totally fine but when it gets to the point of hating on them, that’s where it has to stop.
I have lost interest in kpop.I wanted to become a stan again but seeing stuff like this happen makes me want to unstan all the groups i stanned before. At this point i dont even care about the stuff that happens in this nightmare of a fandom.The only time i go into kpop is when i wanna listen to music.
I'm not going to judge anyone about their thoughts about chaeyoung, she was very ignorant but about her apology I think people don't pay attention when she says that she thought that the symbol he was in different positions confusing them with the buddhist
I feel like you are the only creator that actually has controversial opinions. Everyone else tries to play it safe because they don’t want K-pop Stan’s to attack them. Every time I see a “controversial opinion K-pop video” it’s always “I hate when K-pop Stan’s ship idols together in a sexual way!” That isn’t controversial that’s what most K-pop Stan’s hate or the Wonyoung hate train needs to end. No sis that’s what the majority of K-pop Stan’s want. That’s why I love your channel because you keep it real and fresh. 💞💐
I completely agree with the chaeyoung and soloist confessions. I was such a big fan of twice's music like they were my number 1 Spotify artist for 2022 even though they're not even in my top 5 groups but after that n*z* situation i've had the ick. Now the whole group get nothing from me because one member wanted to be ignorant publicly. And i also can't get into soloists, nothing against them but stanning groups is just so much more rewarding
100% agree with the chaeyoung thing. I’m Jewish and before that incident twice was my ult group and she was my ult bias. No I don’t think she’s a Nazi or antisemetic but she was ignorant and what she did was stupid and her apology sucked ass. As you said it literally felt like she didn’t care at all and even if she did she did absolutely nothing to show it.
For Chaeyoung I don't know what you're talking about because it's definitely possible to not know all of the symbols involved, and she only wore the shirt ONCE. She hasn't had any other incidents so you must be confusing her with someone else. Literally RIGHT infront of jype building there is a Buddhist swastika she walks past almost every day for years so it's not strange that she confused the symbols. I can't dictate the way you feel about it but the fact of the matter is that she's made this mistake ONE time, immediately apologized, then later issued a company official apology, and hasn't repeated it since. Humans make mistakes, and I find it strange we don't allow idols room to make those and to learn from it. She wore merch from a band she likes, saw a symbol she associates with Buddhism, and didn't think anything of it. People keep trying to turn it into something malicious when literally everyone who knows a single thing about Chaeyoung including people who know her irl, know she's a HUGE softie who advocates for peace and love constantly. This girl has literally no mean bone in her body, and I'm not exaggerating that. The rest of Twice members don't even want to play on the same team as her during games because of how mellow and noncompetitive she is naturally. She was just ignorant... I'm tired of people calling her a nazi.
there literally multiple fandom who drag and compared other groups in order to uplift their favs vs moomoos who just simply stating the truth by saying mamamoo are talented like how is that cocky
My whole thing about Chae is that its okay for people to be upset about her actions but i hated that people were spreading info that couldnt be confirmed nor denied Like people saying what korea teaches you about the holocaust and then other people saying that those people are wrong That she never went to school because of idol training That her statement said she didnt know what the symbol was at all when thats not what her statement said People saying she paid hella money for the shirt, but i googled the shirt and found it for 25 usd on the first page of google And then i learned through that whole incident that the symbol isnt even a swastika, that h*tler stole the symbol, rotated it, and called it a hakenkreuz And apparently swastika's are more common than not to see in asia because of bhudist temples So i personally believe that she saw the symbol and mistook it fot the swastika not the hakenkreuz, but the way the incident was handled didnt help and i think thats a little bit more on JYPE Shes wrong for wearing the shirt, JYPE was wrong for trying not to make it a big deal because they were gonna be on tour soon. If anything, they shouldve made a bigger deal out of it BECAUSE they were about to go on tour
One thing that gets me is that Chae wore that shirt on multiple occasions, and no one ever told her about the shirt personally??? Whether she knew or not, no one ever said anything? Even when they were in the US?
@radioactive_baby0706 I'm convinced no person living in korea thought twice about it and no one in america paid attention enough to her outfit, thought she was just an edge lord, or didn't want to be confrontational. Like they assumed she knew what she was wearing and decided to let her do what she wanted. Like I know JYPE won't so far as to police their everyday wear but I think they completely dropped the ball on how they handled everything
i agree with opinion 1!!but ppl only consider it racist!! u've made plenty of opinions i've agreed with and a few i disagreed with and i wasn't sure wat ur take on that would be but wowwww
On confession 9, if my bias (female or male) was dating another idol, I would legit STAN the idol thier dating cause it feels like there's a chance for me to have the person my bias is dating to be my bias in the group (if the person is a soloist, yk). It just find it interesting to see my biases date each other, yk?
actually the moomoo fandom i completley agree with. moomoo's litterally do not have any thing to say abt mamamoo thats not "they're so badass, they're not like all those other cute concept gg's" like yeah, MMM is badass but so are other groups (like XG, they're super under-rated) but moomoos capitalize on one feature and never talk about the other great things about mamamoo. (no hate, im a moomoo myself and i love mamamoo)
This was such a good video and I agree with a lot of the opinions on it! 5. I totally agree with this one and also another fandom that gives “not like the other girls” vibes to me well maybe not girls but just in general is army. I’m an army but a lot of armies don’t know much about other K-pop groups and it shows. It’s fine if bts is the only K-pop group you Stan and if you don’t know that much about other K-pop groups but a lot of armies act like bts is the only good group and K-pop and the only one that makes meaningful music and have had great achievements when there are so many groups that make meaningful music and have broken records and had wonderful achievements not just bts. I also notice how a lot of kpop stans seem to struggle to hype up their group without bringing down other groups at the same time. Like instead of just saying “x group has such good vocals” they’ll say “x groups vocals are better than y groups vocals” or “x group will outsing your faves” I think it’s dumb because it’s not hard to compliment your group without bringing down another? Like I think there would be so much less fighting if people just stopped comparing all the time. 6. I totally get you because I’m the same way. The only soloist I Stan is dpr Ian and he’s not really K-pop he’s more indie I guess I’m not sure but besides him I’m only really a casual listener to soloists. 8. I’m a multistan and I agree with this. It takes a lot of time to start stanning a new group. Not only do you get into their music but you start watching their content and having to memorize all the members names and faces etc and also keep up with what they’re doing. And then wanting to Stan a new group on top of stanning other groups is just a lot. I haven’t stanned a lot of K-pop groups recently, I started getting into billlie victon and xg but I don’t even consider myself a true fan of them yet because I’m still not fully knowing their names and faces or being into their discography. I want to Stan more groups of course and it is fun to look at new groups but it can be a lot at times. So I completely understand only stanning one 9. I also think it’s alright to feel a bit jealous if your idol starts dating. Tbh personally I feel happy for idols when they start dating like for example taehyung and Jennie I’ve been an army for awhile and I used to be a blink but I wasn’t at all really jealous of either of them but also neither of them are my biases in the group so maybe I’d feel different if jimin for example started dating since he’s my bias in bts. But there’s nothing wrong with it but as you said the problem comes when someone lets that jealousy cause them to do and say malicious things to these idols. Overall I agree with basically all the opinions you said and I really enjoy ur unpopular opinion videos because you leave no crumbs everytime lol
about chaeyoung, she didn't do it twice. if you're referring to the q anon shirt, that was not a shirt she personally picked, it was her stylist. not to mention that symbol is not as widely known as the nazi symbol.
She didn't do it twice, she wore it three times..... once in a jewish restaurant in NY styled with a polka dot button up and hair down, second with a floral crop top sweater, hair in a ponytail and lastly at the Billboard Women's Music Awards , styled with just a white jacked, hair down again talking to Kim Petras. These were all different days. (I agree the Q Anon was not hers but the stylists fault, but the sid/nazi shirt she wore multiple times and it was hers)
@@Tails131no dumbdumb that was all the same day. She wore the shirt ONE day, and they went to different places in the same day because of busy schedule
Confession 4 i feel you very much and ill say it the groups that give me that feeling are New jeans and Kiss of life, Its not the girls that bother me,its the fans
Confession 1: i disagree with you big time, here me out, if more non Asians debuted, it will become something normal and accepted, it's normal that it's shocking at the beginning since it's not common Confession 2 and 3 : i agree fully Confession 4: i disagree, it never happened to me, probably because i don't give a f about toxic fans Confession 5: i agree, mamamoo fans, and bts's are the first that popped in my head Confession 6 : i disagree, at first i was like you but lately I've been getting into soloists and it's interesting Confession 7 : survival shows are fun, i agree with you Confession 8: i agree Confession 9 : i kinda agree, it is okay however extremely weird, well maybe because I'm asexual so idk
Actually for the chaeyoung O’Neill disagree cuz I’ m not from the west and I honestly never knew that that sign even existed before this accident and I still have no idea what it means I just know it’s controversial so sorry to break it to you but not everyone knows everything abt your culture.
That's valid I mean the rising sun flag is offensive in China, South Korea and Indonesia but I'm sure there's lots of people in the West who don't know that
@@lunaris7342 bro the whole world learns abt ww2 history at some points me included so yeah I don't expect her to care much abt it still, like sure what the nazi did was bad but so many other things that r just as bad happened so why y'all so hung up on hitler
Don't forget that different countries focus on different parts of the world wars. Korea was not dealing with the Nazis the same way Westerners were. They were dealing with Japan. I guarantee most westerners don't know what went down with Japan outside of the bombs. I see so many kpop fans get mad when Korean dislike something related to Japan, but in Korea, Japan's actions back then were equivalent to what the Nazis did. Both cultures focus on different aspects.
I feel like your controversial kpop opinions aren't really controversial. Or do we just share similar opinions idk. They make a lot of sense and are like normal opinions to have?? I feel like only crazy delulu kpop fans would get angry about them
confession 9... no it is not okay to be jealous over someone dating who u have no personal connection with, like go touch grass if u feel jealous over ur favs dating and go find some friends cause you must be really damn lonely
nooooo frrrrr can we talk about how previous interactions with fandoms literally creep into your subconscious and give u opinions on people you've never listened to or watched lmao im so sorry but that's army and bts for me rip
Abt chaeyoung (confession 2): It’s totally fine if you don’t personally support her anymore, but I keep hearing how people need to hold her accountable, yet she’s already took responsibility for it. I also don’t understand why everyone is to acting like she is a n*zi herself.
Ig holding accountable means the witch hunt that was going on for chaeyoung to keep going on for years to come because she faced IMMENSE backlash apologised within hours and went IA for almost a month it's just sad to see people still holding grudges like i do agree with other ONCE's saying you can't call yourself a once because twice themself claim each other as 9 call yourself a casual listener no one will attack you for that just keep chae out of this she did enough people stan more problematic idols that said things wearing a shirt out of ignorance is not equivalent to saying xenophobic racist slurs knowing what it means But I've decided to make peace with the split
As a Jew I can’t get my self to forgive her, and I don’t think it will ever happen no matter how hard I try. I feel the same way as you do, I can’t even stand looking at her, it makes me sick, now I don’t hate her because we don’t know the real reasons, but still I’m sure she has some knowledge, and I’m sure she knew what that symbol meant.
i mean if it makes you feel better right infront of the jype building there's what i think it's a shop and it has the Buddhist symbol right in front of it which is a swastika but looking the other way, she probably confused the 2 since a lot of people do.
1- fr I totally get it. The industry is not ready. 2- I totally respect your opinion and it is YOUR decision but I don't agree personally. 3- for me i think that even that is staged so I don't even allow myself to enjoy interactions between idols tbh 4- it never happened to me but I get it Fandoms really make bad publicity abt their faves. 5- I feel like that applies to ANY group like almost everyone that stans another group these days be like that like it's not exclusive to some gg's. 6- TOTALLY DISAGREE eunbi, chungha and many more are saving kpop but are still sooo underrated I love soloits 7- idc about trainees and don't like survival shows 8- they are not superior but there are certainly less multistans bringing other groups down than ppl that only like one group. 9- yes but expressing it online where they can see it you have to be REALLY careful and ppl usually aren't
When you think abt it Chae shirt couldn't possibly be a mistake, that shirt was hard to find so you have to actively look for it, plus it is 500 dollars, idk abt u but I wouldn't buy a shirt for 500 dollars esp if I don't know what the symbols mean. And anyone CAN recognise that one symbol, first time it happened it was a flag used by a certain political group in America that is... shady I will say and so I don't blame her for not knowing, even some Americans can fail to recognise it. BUT THIS ONE ?? Nah I'm sorry I can't buy any excuse, either she just doesn't care or she is ignorant af. And cherry one top: her 3 lines apology ?? Why is Tzuyu (HER BANDMATE) obliged to make a whole video of her apologizing and even crying for raising her flag when Chaeyoung can get away with such a small, fake apology ? Dammit some onces even trended the hashtag we love you Chaeyoung... They just don't take us seriously and that's it I unstanned her bc I'm not a fool and I still have some moral values
I agree that a lot of ppl forgot the situation a bit too quickly, but I genuinely feel like Chaeyoung is reflecting on her actions. I am not defending her for what she did, but I do feel like she doesn’t support neo-nazism. As for the shirt, I heard you can buy that shirt for 30$ off of Etsy or even Spencer’s so it’s really not that hard to find. I just hope that Chaeyoung is careful of what she wears next time, since almost everyone should know what the symbol means.
opinion ,I don’t think u need to spend money to Stan I mean if u have the money then try to support your group but if u don’t then try to support them in a 0$ way
i 100% agree with you on confession 1,2 and 5. I’m a twice stan and i found it so stupid how some once’s ran to defend chaeyoung and get mad when you bring it up like what? u can’t even bring up that u don’t like chaeyoung cause they get so mad for what? 😭
I agree with the first one a lot. It's fine with me to debute non koreans but the fans got it to far.. For example in X:IN where Aria and Nova are non koreans they get a lot of praised for being Indian/Russian? And what if they're Indian/Russian? What about their talents? As most of us know Indians are big K-pop fans and that's why Aria gets so much love than former members Ch.iu, Roa and the members now Hannah, Nizz and E.Sha. Now for Nova.. Russians are getting into K-pop because of Nova and not the whole group so that's why she's also more loved. I'm not a hater and not hating Aria and Nova nor I stan the group.
Tho they are Asians but due to the race, they got much hate Rova still got love from her country, but Aria??? She was called Korean fish and chappri by her own Indian people Now I understand why she left And also first Russian idol is Lana
@niki_niki_mura can u just imagine she worked so hard then got this Literally, some indian so-called chapri boys can't tolerate their own people being successful, especially if it's a girl cause they only got one thing to do " women ☕️ "
I used to actively follow a bunch of idols/groups, but keeping up with their albums and everything got tiring. Nowadays, I only really actively follow a few. A couple of my favorite artists to follow are Holland and Jackson Wang. :)
Chaeyoung is not stupid. Jewish people on tiktok explained that in Buddhism there’s a sign that look exactly like the n@zi sign but it has a different meaning, well buddhism is very popular in Korea and many temples have this sign so Chaeyoung thought it’s the Buddhism sign
It is not Buddhism never consider Tiktok a valid source, It first originated in India "Swastika'" and was a sign of something auspicious and would be used in temples from there this sign traveled all over Asia. Then it came to the hands of that aeshole Hitler who tilted the sign up a bit and made a flag out of it to signify the Aaryan race (basically the whites ).. If it was a buddhist one it would be straight ... You can do some research about it.
@@World_is_my_Oyster right infront of the jype building there's what i think it's a shop and it has the Buddhist symbol right in front of it which is a swastika but straight and looking the other way, she probably confused the 2 since a lot of people do.
@@World_is_my_Oystershe literally said she didn't notice it was tilted. She sees the buddhist sign every day it's literally everywhere in korea. She got it confused, thought it was a Buddhist sign, turned out it wasn't, and then the whole shitstorm happened
The first confession threw me off a bit but there is nothing wrong with that. Me personally I really want to see more POC considering that K-pop is kind’ve made off of them. But I do particularly dislike when the foreign member is just the punching bag of the group. Chaeyoung, I actually cannot stand her but I’m not going to drag and make false rumors about her. Personally I hate the people who try to force the “all or nothing” type thing (meaning if you don’t like one member might as well not stan the group) it’s okay if I don’t like her I’m not gonna unstan the group just because I don’t like someone in particular. Confession 5 I don’t like when fandoms try to be different or act like the group is different from other groups. I don’t like when they think they’re a superior fandom than others, so they bring each other down. I think it’s dumb because I would want the best for other groups I don’t know why people have to be so negative and act like everything is a competition when it isn’t. This is irrelevant but I just wanna talk about these Kpop news channels and how they’re so biased. The Yena and Yuqi “I don’t rodrigo” situation wasn’t even as bad as these channels try to make it. One channel in particular were bringing both of the girls down but did not once mention the company who went through with it? JayPark situation the channel completely defended him when clearly there was proof saying he was innocent when he wasn’t Now recently I’ve seen a channel go after Yeh Shuhua for doing playing harmlessly with Yuqi? They were completely victim blaming her and making her seem like the bad guy, and repeatedly saying Yuqi absolutely hated it? They’re friends not enemies
A lot of people have opinions on chaeyoung, but I would actually like to know how many people around the world know of the holocaust and had it in history class. I personally doubt every country teaches it, but i dont know that and thats why i would love to find out. Her shirt was also not - only - a swastika shirt, it was a vivienne westwood shirt of sid vicious with the swastika shirt on it. I would like to know what people thought of him wearing that and vivienne westwood making that shirt. also because the only other swastika shirt of hers i found had written DESTROY above it. So this is obviously not about anyone being a nazi but the discussion if and how its acceptable to depict the swastika symbol. Personally I dont really find a punk swastika shirt that bad because its very obvious its not showing the beliefs of the person wearing it and specifically someone asian might not be connected that much to the history of it.
This is really controversial but my confession that i don't really mind debuting minors as long as they're getting clean and non sexual concepts .. people be acting like minors are not complete people that is worthy of respect and they dont have dreams and their own life.. and I've listened to other people explaining why they against their debut and they will mostly say to protect them from the toxic industry and protect their mental health and i don't understand how YOU bullying them is good for their mental health in any way 💀 or its a waste of their childhood and they be having 100 times happier childhood than most people did .. you act like normal young people would never experience criticism and hate in their life they only will if they debuted as idols ..
I agreed with everything you said until here "you act like normal young people would never experience criticism and hate in their life they only will if they debuted as idols. People act like that because it's true. Normal young people wont go through AS MUCH criticism and hate in their lives, compared to underage idols. Everything else you said was totally fine, they can debut with good concepts and people shouldn't bully them. But we can't deny that this industry isn't normal at all.
i mean if it makes you feel better right infront of the jype building there's what i think it's a shop and it has the Buddhist symbol right in front of it which is a swastika but looking the other way, she probably confused the 2 since a lot of people do.
Now time for my confession. I have to admit that I don't like the most of gg like I do with bg because the most of gg have the "cute" concept and seeing them doing aegyo the most of the time and I find it cringy. I mean, bg does too but sometimes, not all time and i feel bad for the girls because i know the most of them are forced to. I don't like that people see that girls are just cute and babydolls, like, WE'RE MORE THAN THAT, and i think they should be allowed to show who they really are. I mean, that they could show the girls with actitud and fearless that they are because that makes them unique and it's sad that real beauty has to be hidden.
reasons why i dont like foreigners in kpop: - kpop is asian, and i think that we should let asia have something of their own instead of white people budding into other cultures. whenever i see people talking abt wanting to become a kpop idol its always people asking if its ok since their white. i understand if your half asian, but i think that its not okay for foreigners to debut. - members will outshine other members - lots of people might be racist and that could cause a lot of hate - companies will use them for popularity
kpop as “genre” uses many western inspired things (e.g. hip hop) so why can’t non asians partake in something that uses things from their own culture(s)
i mean if it makes you feel better right infront of the jype building there's what i think it's a shop and it has the Buddhist symbol right in front of it which is a swastika but looking the other way, she probably confused the 2 since a lot of people do.
@@redloona1085 shes still and idol and she shouldve known that people with get them mixed up either way. why take the risk and ruin your image. thats just embarrassing for a grown woman.
@@racha1677 OR (hear me out), she didn't notice the small sign meant something offensive when she sees almost an identical sign that means something good everyday when she goes to work. Not everyone knows a lot about history specially someone who was having a full time job at 13, she entered twice and on her teenage years she attended a survival show and released 6 mini albums, 1 full album, 2 singles, learned 9 dance + variety shows and dance practices + concerts. She's a very busy woman and started having a succesful career in her teenage years you think she would pay THAT much attention to a almost identical sign that she sees everyday on her way to work and means something good there?
@@redloona1085 ok good point but isnt jyp known for giving their idols the most random classes in literally EVERYTHING. you'd think he'd give them a class in inappropriate symbols and sayings so they don't get them mixed up like she did here. i dunno but kpop idols are not dumb. I'm pretty sure they read the news and keep up with things happening around the world. if she was 16 and made that mistake, it still would not have been acceptable. we don't have to make excuses for her when she knew to some degree that her actions always have consequences whether good or bad. I honestly don't have anything against her i just don't like how she could just wear anything say anything and her apology could still be so carless. what is a two sentence apology for years of hurting and suffering caused by that symbol. honestly no excuses for her at all.
@@racha1677 what more did you want her to write? she didn't realize that the logo was bad due to what i mentioned before, she mistook a symbol for another, it's not that big of a deal, if she DID know it was the nazi symbol why would she have worn it on the first place? Do you really think an IDOL out of all people will try to get their reputation ruined? And also i still don't know where y'all got that JYP gives lessons on everything.
Bro Fr whenever I see those shorts talking abt “women vs girls” in Kpop I always get second hand embarrassment. And it’s mostly like the female idols who are perceived as cute that are in the girls section and it’s like 💀 are women not allowed to be cute?? Tf
I agree w ur last point. The amount of Armies/Tae Stans I’ve seen hating on Jen is just horrendous. They acting like Jennie is holding a gun to Taehyung’s head or something 😭 (Blinks/Jensetters are also being incredibly vile towards Tae)
I agree with you on both of these points, especially with toxic Armys being hateful towards Jennie for allegedly dating V, they need to grow up already, V will never pick you!!
@@tolanisimpson5360on Jennie and v both fandoms were toxic so both should be held accountable
@@Everythingz127 Oh God, what did Blinks do in this context?
@@tolanisimpson5360 honestly hate both fandoms, blink and army. However what I've seen armys do totally changed my mind about armys and even BTS. They are just horrible people. Mean bullies. Do you believe I've literally witnessed a couple of armys laugh at Jennie's dog's death?☠ and when I said why would you pull such stunt and be such disturbing human being, they said it's just because we hate Jennie. I now literally believe army fandom is just full of mean bullies.
IKRRR i hate those kind of shorts... They are stupid and pointless
I actually love your last confession because I don’t hear this take a lot and I actually agree with it for multiple reason. I also believe feelings of jealousy are normal to an extent especially in an industry like kpop which is built on the interaction and relationship between fans and idols. These companies literally capitalize on it, that’s why they make so many variety shows, game shows, vlogs, etc, they want you to ‘fall’ for those idols and consider them apart of your life so developing a crush, as unrealistic as it is really, still makes sense. I also think a lot of kpop fans are very young, most teenagers or young adults and are at the age of exploring their feelings of attraction, sexuality, etc, so it only makes sense that they could develope certain feelings for their favorite idols. These idols & companies also entertain them by constantly catering to what their fans want so again, it only makes sense. I do however still believe idols should be allowed to date, including publicly... I think reinforcing the idea that while these crushes are possible and understandable, they are still unrealistic at the end of the day... I think if dating was less hush hush we’d see less of those crushes being taken to the extreme because fans would have no other choice but to make peace with it. So yes, I think it’s normal to have a crush on your idols but it’s not normal to become possessive of them and also hateful if they start dating someone.
such a great comment, I agree
Kpop profits out of parasocial relationship
In my opinion, i honestly think it's just downright rude and disrespectful to always be commenting on someone's body. I swear, kpop fans are way too aware of every ounce of oxygen an idol drops/gains it's insane. I mean, yes you're going to notice when they gain or lose weight they're in the spotlight all time but its just completely unnecessary to bring it up everytime they're on screen. I may be just dumb but if it weren't for dives constantly bringing up Liz's gain weight i honestly wouldn't have noticed it and it's this obsessive and unclassy behavior that causes companies to force idols into extreme diets. What they're doing is wrong of course and I'm not about to justify that. However, I also think that sometimes we just need to shut the fuck up about certain stuff because we're don't know these idols and we don't know what they're going through or dealing with.
EXACTLY!! This also applies to Wonyoung in terms of her weight.
You're so right, obviously we can all agree that fatshaming is disgusting, but even those people who bash idols for being skinny are terrible. The thing is, idols are aware of their bodies and if they have eating disorders the last thing they need is seeing everyone talking about it online. Do people think they're helping their idols by making a tweet about their bodies? I feel like weight is really one of those things we shouldn't talk about because it does more harm than good.
@@soft4taeng Facts!!!
@@soft4taeng Yes, you made a really good point. Honestly, even assuming that an idol has an eating disorder is very intrusive behavior in my opinion. Because even if they do, as a random stranger on the internet, what's your unasked for input going to do to help? Body image is a topic that should be discussed with clear boundaries and lines even between friends so I just don't understand what gives these crazy fans the audacity to nitpick everything. The worst part about it is that they also have no shame. Like there were people online literally discussing whether wonyoung gets her period or not. And then theywonder why idols get defensive or emotional when someone talks about their weight.
So you guys meant eunbi and yuri's concern was also useless??
I'm a hard-core wonyoung stan but the truth is idols never choose their w3ight it's always the company. For example, liz she was being starved by the company,
I know hating on wonyoung is bad. We should actually blame the beauty standards that are destroying young girls who aren't even 20+
She wouldn't have problems now, but in the future, when she'll be 25+
Like 14 bmi, are u kidding me?
"women group" made me cackle
Women music XD
Woman group👑
People told me that too when i was a new kpop fan and i was so confused what that even means :D
real like shutup
To be honest it's not foreign idols debuting itself that bothers me it's just the way people respond to it. like if your gonna point it out and surround the idol and their group around the fact that it's a non-Asian debuting then u clearly don't actually care about the music or the idol themselves. Like people say we should normalize these idols debuting but if you're gonna make a big deal about then that's not normalizing it.
Edit: I thought this was obvious but I guess it's not, but when I mean foreign idols in kpop I mean non-korean idols (eg. Chinese, Japanese, thai etc.) because obviously these things do happen to those idols alot. So I'm not just talking about non-aisan idols but just non-korean idols.
Agree
Ppl been doing that for Thai , Japanese, Chinese idols nothing new
"If you're saying you should "normalize" something and then make a big deal about it, then it's not normalizing." That statement really opened my eyes because it's literally so true. People misuse/exaggerate words/terms like these. Normalize (in my own words, so uhh, maybe im also wrong LOL) I think it means "something unusual by the standards of a certain community/people that shouldn't be unusual in the first place. Hence, they shouldn't care/make a big deal that much when it actually happens, this also includes very positive reactions to it happening - because ur technically not normalizing it." Even outside of kpop people misuse a term like this- it's just weird
And I hate how most of the orbits talk like loona are lesbians and loona are only for the lgbt community and when they enteract with men they will act disgusting saying get this men away from my girls like wth in the loonaverse are you serious?
Thanks for pointing that out, orbits like that annoy me !!!
Yeah
i was a chaeyoung ult but same, i can't just ignore the incident, she's a grown woman and has no excuse for her actions.
i mean if it makes you feel better right infront of the jype building there's what i think it's a shop and it has the Buddhist symbol right in front of it which is a swastika but looking the other way, she probably confused the 2 since a lot of people do.
@@redloona1085LMAOOOO
I can't believe the western world is this self involved. You actually believe WW2 and it's details should be some kind of enforced global knowledge? What should the qualifications of this "global knowledge" entail? 2 million deaths? Can you NOT hear how ridiculous and wrong this sounds like? She has apologies and your witch hunting only spread uncertainty and makes it HARDER for people to ask questions and learn, out of fear of the backlash. IF hating her makes you feel better you should look in the mirror, educate yourself on all the terrors currently happening in our world and ask yourself, am I perpetuating any of these ideals, thus furthering dictators and terrorists agendas? And if a girl wearing a shirt is doing a "better" job furthering hate and violence in this world than I am currently with my ideals and my way of living, then you can judge freely. I can guarantee you, unbiasedly , most of you out there are doing a much better job at spreading nazism, racism and sexism than Chaeyoung of TWICE is.
Oh just shut up and enjoy chaeyoung and twice and stop being sensitive
@@iluvisa ?
With confession 1, I feel like this sort of thing can apply to popular members in general who overshadow their group and aren’t that known for their talents (Cha Eunwoo, Chuu, etc).
It’s pretty inevitable in Kpop groups no matter what.
Exactly.
The chaeyeong thing: yes. As a german it's a highly sensitive topic and we won't accept any ignorance or underestimation
Honestly, I don't like it when stans demand for their idols to have more lines. I understand wanting your bias to have more lines, but these stans don't take the idols feelings into consideration. What if that idol doesn't want alot of lines, what if they don't like the song, what if they like dancing more than singing? These stans are also probably putting alot of pressure on these idols. Let's take Sakura for example, she's been in the industry for a long time but the vocal training she had was really bad, and it's hard to grow out of habits you've known since you were a kid and obviously stans were upset that she didn't have alot of lines in Izone, but I'm pretty sure they understood why that was the case. But now that she's finally getting proper lessons, these stans are now demanding for her to get more lines despite the fact that she's not had these lessons for a long time and it would take a long time for her to grow out of her old singing habits. Sakura herself has said that she didn't want alot of lines yet fans are still going against her wishes. I don't like assuming idols true feelings but I don't think it's a stretch to say that she probably feels like she isn't good enough for her fans( she is good enough and even better ) when the main problem is her fans not giving her enough time and going against what she wants. They also fail to take into consideration that the song had to actually sound good and if the idol can't sing that song or doesn't match the concept then they obviously shouldn't be having alot of lines for it.
I fully agree like if someone is in a big group and they are only a sub tapper\voclalist they shouldn't be getting upset like the point of positions is so you get parts that fit u and if it's not a lot it isn't a lot! Like I get being angry if the main vocal gets the least but the sub rapper\vocalist honestly stand need to chill
it’s actually really valid that people lost their respect for chae like how could you not see that validity in that… i personally still wanted her in TWICE but it does leave a sour taste in my mouth every time i see her so it’s weird.
Same, like I'm Ot9, and I'm holding her accountable, but I hate that this incident is all I can see whenever I see her face. Like, I love Chaeyoung and she's very talented but what she did was unacceptable and the ones that are completely brushing it off are just proving that they don't care about people in other cultures and how something like this could affect them.
@keepitsecret-dl1pr Holding people accountable for things that they did is problematic now? I don't hate Chaeyoung, i love Chaeyoung, but some things you can't just brush off, especially if people truly felt affected by it. I don't spread hate about her or anything, in fact I tell people not to spread hate
Dahyun walks around with a cross all the time, the symbol of the most horrific and murderous organization of all time, the church, and no one has ever said anything about it. Chaeyoung wore it because she is edgy and then she apologized - what would have solved it for you? Or is anyone who buys a 10$ merch shirt in a thrift shop eternally doomed?
@@gremsen1335 anyone who has a brain isn't going to buy a shirt that has a nazi symbol on it.
@@gremsen1335 You can't even compare those.
I love how unbiased your opinions are, honestly most of Kpops problems are caused by fans. As a Jewish person Chaeyoung makes me so uncomfortable more than angry and she only apologized because of the reaction online. I’m so curious about how TWICE reacted when it first happened, and if any of them cared. Fans will always say disgusting things and forgive but idols have different powers!
? Well when should she apologize, if not when she is told she did something wrong
Did she tell you that or are you assuming because you want something to be mad about? You didn’t go to a concentration camp for being Jewish, you were never spat on or physically harassed for being Jewish. You do not have the right to complain
you're allowed to feel uncomfortable with Chaeyoung but what is this???
not to mention the building literally infront of JYPE has a the Buddhist symbol right in front of it which is a swastika but looking the other way, she probably confused the 2 since a lot of people do.
@@meemaw2200the whole thing with the nazis created generational trauma among many Jewish families. I don’t get your point???? Also that person will always be a target of Jewish hate, so they can be absolutely mad at her for it.
I don’t think she apologized for that unless I missed it?
My confession is I don’t understand the point of super temporary groups like izone or Kepler. Like what’s the point of getting into group that’ll be dissolved so soon? It’s an instant turn of to me. Nothing against the girls in those groups or the music it just seems like I’m setting myself up to be sad when they disband.
The music still remains though, so just enjoy the group while it's still active and you still have the Music forever.
@@nonjabulomangoro1871 yeah but you don’t get any new music or new content which is kind of the point
my confession is that kpop stans don't know what the word accountability is. a girl from kiss of life said the n word a few years ago and she apologised just now, and as a member of the black community, i accept her apology. but that doesn't mean that she shouldn't have been criticised. that's the one thing netizens do right imo, is that when idols say derogatory words they make them understand their mistake usually. but ppl were defending her saying it was a few years ago so she shouldn't apologise, netizens need to touch grass, etc. it's mature of her to apologise but don't forget that she said the word and she needed to apologise. and she's american so I sincerely doubt she didn't know what it meant.
Exactly ima black K-pop stan as well and tbh I’m just tired of still seeing K-pop stars say the word. Like even if they didn’t know about it they should see the scandals which their have been a lot of these scandals and learn from them but nope. It’s giving that a lot of them just don’t care because if they did why would this still be happening?
@@blackbluesette6577 exactly like i understand in some cases it's just ignorance/not knowing the word but they've likely seen a lot of the scandals happening to other idols enough to know the word was probably controversial and they shouldn't say it.
Which member?
@@shootashota3423 julie
@@shootashota3423julie
i honestly agree w the chaeyoung opinion. i obviously don't think she's a nzi or wore it with malicious intentions, but the entire situation was such a huge display of ignorance/carelessness and it has completely (and subconsciously) changed my view on chaeyoung. i simply cannot see her in the same light, even if were to try to move on past the scandal.
Well the thing is, she didn't realize and nobody told her. And it wasn't a Nazi shirt. It was a shirt for I think the Sex Pistols and isn't chae into rock?
@@holdmyravioli1286 again, if she didn't realize, it's such an incredible display of ignorance that it becomes hard to ignore. either way, the sex pistols were all shitheads, ESPECIALLY sid vicious (the guy featured on the shirt), so that wouldn't really help her case anyway.
Honestly, over the years in K-pop. girl groups have got far better at music than boy groups. I don't know if I am the only one that sees it but its like literally almost all boy groups music these days- except a few is about drastic beat drops and hard dances, while girl groups experiment more with sounds and genres.
I am a pretty big bg stan but gen 4 changed me in a way I can't express 2022 was THE YEAR for kpop ggs and I was eating it up! Even twices album that came out that year was so good and I never listened to twice honestly bg stans who aren't listening to any ggs nowadays are missing out
I honestly can't stand most girl groups, I can't explain why but their music makes me cringe hard most of the time💀 I mean, many of them are super talented and stuff, but I just can't like their music and I have no Idea why
Have u actually listened to more than 2 bg cuz I can think of so many bg songs that don’t sound like the usual girl crush concept song 😂 like I’m sorry u gg Stan’s complaining about bg music haven’t actually looked into more than a few bg discography and looked into underrated groups
Since when drastic drop and hard dance is overrated ? 😭
you've clearly been listening to only one or two bgs because not every group is making noise music. If music like nct or stray kids doesn't suit your taste then go listen to other groups just like you would for girl groups (ateez, oneus, there are so many) you're just limiting yourself to a few groups and generalize that ggs are better than bgs.
Ngl your first confession had me raising my eyebrows until I listened to your entire point 😂
Me too 😭😭😭
SAME but then i was like “no actually you got a point there” 😭
They worded it badly. What they should've said was they disliked non Asian idol's fans.
I think bunnies don't have morals (how can y'all stan MHJ)
THIS!!! After she made an inappropiate song for underage girls to be performing on stage plus the ETA thing.
@@tolanisimpson5360you said it all
Tbh I think a lot of bunnies are just really ignorant and stupid. And I think they kind of worship new jeans because of how good their concept and music is which it is. Tbh tho, in my opinion bunnies as a fandom is just an extreme version of what many other K-pop fandoms always do. Like a lot of K-pop stans worship their idols like perfect flawless gods or whatever, and are so blinded by their love for them that they don’t stop to consider the bad and toxic things surrounding the group. And also a lot of them may take criticism towards min heejin as people hating on new jeans which most ppl I see don’t. And criticizing the concept and music that’s not appropriate for minors that new jeans got is not at all hating on the group but a lot of them take it super personally and view it as that.
@@Everythingz127lmao we don’t Stan the company 💀 we Stan the girls lol
@@snumber111 whatever makes you sleep at night
I lost all my respect for her (Chaeyoung) as well, I really cannot fathom the situation.
My kpop confessions:
🔹️Minors shouldn't debut
🔹️Saying "Woman group" is valid, i support it and how you feel about it is subjective
🔹️BTS gets away with a lot of sh1*
🔹️there's a lot of male privilege and fatphobia in kpop!
🔹️A lot of kpop fans are extremely homophobic and bully idols if they find out they're not straight!😐
What's wrong with BTS?? They're the least problematic kpop group out there
@@vaneesavan2239 pls tell me you're joking💀
yeah, Women☕ Group slay✨🎧
@@Victori.A1 I am not joking BTW.. I am asking you what sh!t that BTS got away with?? They don't have any serious scandals in their career though!
@@World_is_my_Oyster and men☕ group flop🤡
my take one chae:
i stan twice and i still am an ot9 i love them all. im not jew im also not fully educated on the matter (still trying to learn more) but im still holding her accountable her talent is good n all but what she did is wrong even concidering that jyp even confirmed that they give history lessons so no matter what delulu onces (sorry for them) will always try look for an exuse i hope she learnt her lesson. becuase what she did was disgusting
Honestly i don't have a problem with OT9 onces, i just have a problem with those who try and excuse her behavior. You can still chose to support everyone while still holding her accountable. I didn't know about JYP giving them history lessons...that makes it even worse.
I hope she watches Oppenheimer, it will defo teach her something
@@soft4taeng he confirmed it himself and geopraphy im pretty sure some other stuff so if she so happend to not learn it in school she still was taught about it at the company
@@Everythingz127 and once again admitting to be a hater and you dont even realize it, like you do always with all your accounts everglow-up.
She literally apologized and said she wont do it again. You guys dont even know the backstory. Plus this was months ago and stop bringing it up.
The first one is so true and when I tell people that then they just say I’m jealous and that I don’t like to see diversity in kpop. When in reality I just don’t like how Blackswan is only hyped and talked about because of their ethnicity and some people over do it when they try hype the group up, I’ve heard people saying that they will be as successful as BP and that their song Karma should win SOTY which is so unrealistic. People (mainly international fans) don’t care about what the group has to offer, they just use Blackswan to boast about how kpop should be diverse and they just obsess over their ethnicity especially with Fatou.
I never really thought of this point that way, when you really think about it, you're right and it's really sad.
bro frr! the group X: IN would be unknown without aria, and now ppl are saying their song "keeping the fire" should win awards when that song is literally dog shit 😭 now something else I realised is how ppl are now comparing the two Indian idols ( aria and sriya) and its honesty gross
recently i've been seeing more people stop only caring about how diveres the group is and start actually talking about them as people and their talents I've even seen Koreans start hyping them up, hopefully people will start focusing on them as people more
I get your point and I think it’s stupid that foreign idols are often only reduced down to their ethnicity when they’re all very talented at what they do, but it’s ignorant to think that there are only Koreans in Korea, when there are people of all ethnicities and backgrounds who live there and were born there. Why shouldn’t the industry become more diverse to reflect that? It also opens up the talent pool tenfold when you’re not excluding someone from training and debuting just because they aren’t Asian. People heavily focus on idols of different race and make it a big deal because it’s not common right now, but the more it happens the less remarkable it will be, and that’s the goal of actual diversity: make having people of all different looks and backgrounds so normalized that it’s not anything to gawk at.
They definitely are paving the way for non Asians especially to go into kpop but if they were all Asians they’d probably be more nugu
As someone who has German and Jewish ancestry (Even though I myself am not jewish) I still hold Chaeyoung accountable, her actions aren’t ones that should be just “forgive and forget” (if you know what I mean)
i mean if it makes you feel better right infront of the jype building there's what i think it's a shop and it has the Buddhist symbol right in front of it which is a swastika but looking the other way, she probably confused the 2 since a lot of people do.
@@redloona1085she has worn it in a Jewish restaurant… that T-shirt is rare. Sid vicious had a history of making fun of Jews and the concentration camp. Chaeyoung is a punk fan
@@An.Nora5 how is that t shirt rare?? Also how do u know where she wore it???
and wdym Chae is a punk fan???
@@redloona1085because people recognized the restaurant and people have looked into the guy and his brands
@An.Nora5 lets not spread misinformation or information that can't be confirmed or denied.
That shirt and variations are easy to find just by googling sid vicious shirt. I've seen it from 10 usd to a little under 40 usd
We dont know where/who she got it from. We can be upset and disappointed, but let's only hold her accountable for things we know as fact
I was just reading about how 85M people lost their lives in WW2
That war was absolutely tragic, how can there be people who don't know about this? It was a WORLD war, how is it even possible someone can be that clueless?
@@soft4taengikr, most of the things I learned in WW2 were not in school but on tv(for those lying it's only in school and that she didn't attend school). There are always those history channels explaining what happened and I'm surprised that south Korea which is the country where 96% of the population has access to internet doesn't know about the Nazis or Adolf Hitler, the murders, the deaths, the Holocaust and everything. I'm not even Jewish but ik it last from 1939-1945, that's basic knowledge you would think ? It's our history c'mon. She knows, wether ppl believe it or not.
@@soft4taengIronic considering japan did the same thing to China and Korea, and Germany sided with them. I’m pretty sure Korea would teach this in school since it was an important event in history for Asia, so not sure why Chaeyoung thought it was okay to wear the Nazi shirt.
not you everglow-up using an actual war just to make yourself look nice here, when its you who makes fun of sulli, hara, jonghyun, moonbin etc and wished other idols the same fate too all the time.
also love how right here you say you did learn most of ww2 outside of school but are always the first one to hate on all idols when they are ignorant about something that no korean school teaches in the first place.
Chaeyoung knew what she was doing. Everyone needs to stop trying to defend her it’s actually getting wild that people would put their idols before their morals. Because they’re a kpop idol they can do what they want? The excuses make no sense. The shirt is hard to get because it is no longer manufactured and it was manufactured long ago. The shirt goes for anywhere between 500$-2k$ and is hard to find. This ain’t no stylist issue cause she wore this in her every day life and clearly bought and owns the shirt. And the fact that you can also buy the shirt WITHOUT the swastika. Too many factors played in here. There is literally no excuse. I also lost my respect for chaeyoung. I biased her before this issue. She is a grown woman. She should know what she was doing.
@wintersblackmamba There is a lot of misinformation in what you wrote. First of all the shirt isn't that rare as after a quick google search I found a similar one being sold on ebay. (Not the exact same but still with the symbol and the same person). If it can be sold online for cheap who's to say she didn't just thrift it.
Second of all, she wore it in public surrounded by not only other twice members but their staff and team too. Somebody had to even take a picture of her with the shirt on. Surely if they were aware of her shirt they would call her out and make her change not let her take pictures and post them online. However, they did not. Are we going to say everyone in the vicinity is a nazi too? It just isn't logical.
Do I think Chaeyoung deserves criticism for her actions? Absolutely. Should she be held accountable so cases like these don't become normalised? Of course! But should we try and paint her to be a hateful nazi who would put not only her career but her groups career in jeopardy because she's evil? I don't think so.
gidle stans kinda give off "not like other girls" vibes like...
THIS!!! Especially when they tear down other girl groups eg. IVE, Blackpink etc
FR AND THEY'RE SO ANNOYING.
@@Welchs-Fruit-Snacks True.
@@Welchs-Fruit-Snacks not all of them are like that...
💯 I love Idle's music but the stans try so hard to seem edgy
i just can’t look at chaeyoung the same way anymore like my whole perception of her has changed, not saying she _is_ antisemitic or anything like that but the whole stuff and the way it was handled rubbed me the wrong way
I completely agree with the opinion on Chaeyoung. That's too deliberate, she wore it multiple times in photos on different days, too. She was really becoming one of my biases in Twice but after that I entirely stopped supporting her or streaming any of her personal fancams and performances
Not true. Those were lies spread by haters. She wore the shirt on ONE day, and they went to multiple events on that day, and had their picture taken at different places.
@wiiboiwill interesting, but either way, as someone with Jewish Holocaust survivors and POWs in my family, and simply as a person very intolerant of antisemitism and naziism, I think one time is frankly TOO MANY
@@Enfjscrolling I agree, that one time is one too many, however it is still important to think of the intentions of the offender. It wasn't her intention to wear anything n*zi related, but because of her ignorance she did, and that is not acceptable. I'm not sure where this ignorance stems, whether it's cultural, lack of school education (she only attended school properly up until middle school), a failure from the company to keep their idols socially and historically aware, or if it was her own unwillingness to learn. It seems to me like this incident is a failure of education on a larger scale, because what idiot of an idol would intentionally jeopardize their own careers by being outwardly antisemitic?
Regardless I understand an unwillingness to support her currently and in the future, I just wish people don't call her a n*zi because it is clear as day that she isn't one, she's simply ignorant. She's not a hateful person.
@@Enfjscrolling also wouldn't you think that the managers would've made her change the moment they saw the shirt? It seems to me like the symbolism from WWII is not really touched upon in Korean education, because why did nobody say something? Why didn't the members say anything? Management? Staff?
It seems like a KOREA problem more so than a Chaeyoung specific problem. One that NEEDS to be addressed. Because it is obviously not okay to wear antisemitic imagery.
Dude it was an accident. She didn't realize. Why would a popular K-pop idol be a Nazi?
as an ot9 once, i'm just neutral on chaeyoung for now. i don't think she's a n4zi or supports anti-semitism and i don't agree with some of the threats people have sent out to her.....BUT i do think she's incredibly stupid and ignorant. i love twice, they're my first ult gg in kpop but chaeyoung caused me to take a short break from them. i appreciate what she brings to twice or her as a twice member but i'm just incredibly disappointed in her. i just hope she educated herself on why what she did was wrong. maybe my feelings will change in the future but as of of now, i'm just neutral towards her🙍🏾♀️.
also i don't think your opinion on her is controversial lol. the opinion is a widespread opinion that kpop stans now hold. the only people who will find it controversial (or disagree with your opinion) are hardcore onces.
i mean if it makes you feel better right infront of the jype building there's what i think it's a shop and it has the Buddhist symbol right in front of it which is a swastika but looking the other way, she probably confused the 2 since a lot of people do.
@@redloona1085a lot people do? where are you getting this from?
@@redloona1085the Buddhist symbol and swastika are different tho and she wore a swastika
@redloona1085 They aren't the same tho. The nazi symbol is tilted.
@@radioactive_baby that's literally what I said?
It's the same thing but tilted, is easy to miss.
agreed heavily on the chae one, i can NEVER see her same after the shirt. Her apology almost pushed it off to the side and almost pulled a “i didn’t know sorry”. so annoying ugh
I honestly don't think she realized. I didn't either. I don't know what you wanted in her apology but she did everything right. She addressed why she was sorry. She deleted the post and most likely got rid of the shirt. I believe the shirt was a Sex Pistols shirt and doesn't chae like rock music? Why would a popular Korean idol be a white supremacist? It was an accident. Not saying it's ok but from what I'm seeing by her saying she didn't know the meaning and the fact that there is a large bhuddist and Hindu population in Asia, she may have confused it with a manji, a symbol of peace that was made waaaaay before nazis
I lost all the respect I had for Chaeyoung, I lost any kind of interest in her, I unstanned twice, I don't support any of the members, I unfollowed all twice accounts, I can not stand looking at her.
I loved twice, but what happened is something that can not be forgiven. If I was JYP, I would've kicked Chae out of the group, yes, (some, maybe most) onces would be extremely loud and annoying and maybe even stop supporting twice, but let's be honest, twice can survive without her (by which, I don't mean to say that she isn't talented, just that twice would still be successful even as a group with only 8 members and her leaving the group wouldn't be fatal for twice)
7:25 Ill always make fun of those who get jealous over it Im sorry🤭
i agree with the Chaeyoung one, for me instead of making a three line letter she should have made a video where she apologised.
Girl groups stans are so mean for no reason and girl group stans RUclips that's my opinion
Here's my take on this video:
Confession 1: I'm not gonna lie, I was thrown off at first but after you explained why you feel that way, I saw your point and I agree with you.
Confession 2: As someone who was born and raised in Europe, I fully agree with you, I feel the same way you do in this context. What Chaeyoung did was disgusting and unacceptable.
Confession 3: Yes, I can see your point, I am not a fan of any of the groups you mentioned so I can't really say anything about their relationship.
Confession 4: I definitely see your point, you're not the only one in this context.
Confession 5: I completely agree with you, I can't stand it either, they try way too hard to seem/be different.
Confession 6: I understand your point.
Confession 7: I don't really care for survival shows but I understand why you like them.
Confession 8: I agree with you point, in a way, I was kind of like this as well.
Confession 9: I agree with you. As long as you do not attack your bias nor the person they're dating, it's ok to feel that way. Just be responsible with your emotions.
I loved this video, it made me think about certain things in a different perspective. I hope you have an amazing day!!❤❤❤❤❤
Y’all can be mad at chaeyoung, but the video was wrong about the dumbest person on earth would know about the holocaust and all the Nazi symbols. I can think examples of idols using the hakenkreuz for official photoshoots, posing on a holocaust memorial, and wearing a necklace with the hakenkreuz during their time off. This is obviously a common occurrence in K-pop if not sk in general
Also her apology opinion is dumb, chaeyoungs apology was in korean, the tone is not gonna translate to English
@@dotcom3015 just another hater trying hard to justify the hate train against yet another innocent idol with some made up stories.
as someone raised in europe you just literally admit that you dont even know how koreans are raised and what they learn in school, so thank you for nicely admitting to be yet another hater trying hard to make another innocent idol look bad over an ignorant mistake and show nicely that you are by far worse than her.
@@pruitv4 like it’s fine for people to not support her anymore, no one is required to forgive. But people are not holding her to the same standard as any other idol who has done the same/worse and hasn’t apologized.
MAMAMOO are a women group. Soooooooo….. what’s your point?
This is hilarious, “kpop is not that serious” yet you got a whole video making controversial confessions. 😂
I think you didn't understand the video..
nah you bitter mamamoo fans need that humble honesty
@@newbunnie1 nah I did. I actually agreed with a few of their “confessions”
@@jayr7781 nah pretty humble actually. As a fan of many many groups but different standards for different fans
@@thatkpopsis NAh
In my opinoin, some i-stans are xenophobic towards k-stans
As a Moo i apologize on behalf of them 😭
I’m also a moo and this has always bugged me 😅 Just go into any reaction video and I can guarantee you can find multiple of those comments… I assume these are mainly the same people over and over again but the habit has spread quite a bit among moomoos so-
The fault is not on you though.. Don't apologize for them
sorry but we are right. out of all gg groups mamamoo is the only one who behaves like adult women. other gg are adult women but act like 13 year old girls. sorry but I have never seen adult people behave like little children. it's so cringe and thats why when you discover mamamoo you see adults acting like adults how it should be
WE are not sorry
@@YouCant.FoolMeloser
The confession 5 is actually new jeans fans lmao. They think new jeans are so much different 4th gen girl groups compare to others. 😂😂
About Chaeyoung, as I understood she did wear a t-Shirt from sex pistols, and the point of this T-shirt it’s like against holocaust, but I think it’s not the best option to wear something, if the message is not so clear. So yeah, weird situation with her
so what's your point
Slayed as usual 😫
Exactly!!!
Kpop is NOT a genre. It's an industry and I hate it when kpoppies mix the two. Anyone and everyone can be a kpop idol because its an industry. That's why there are so many genres within this Kpop industry. You don't see anyone say "oh non asians can't be part of xyz industry" just because they are a minority in that industry. (in this case kpop industry comprises of mostly koreans which make them the majority). The problem with your first confession is the fact that you dislike seeing non asians debuting in kpop groups but in your description for the confession you talked about the kpop fans ?? your problem is with the fans so you should've said that you dislike how fans only talk about the ethnicity, that's not the the idol's problems, that's just the fans' problem. You shouldn't say that you dislike that non asian/poc artists debuting in kpop groups, rather you should've said that you dislike the stuff the fans' say. What that gotta do w the idol?
about the chaeyoung situation, i love my girl. but what she did was wrong & disrespectful. it was very ignorant of her if she didn’t actually know & if she did then that’s downright rude & absolutely horrible. i hate seeing other ot9 onces defending her, ppl have the right to be upset. like y’all forgave chaeyoung SO quickly but y’all still can’t forgive giselle? i’m not jewish, but it hurts me to see how she could make such a careless mistake like that/maybe on purpose
i mean if it makes you feel better right infront of the jype building there's what i think it's a shop and it has the Buddhist symbol right in front of it which is a swastika but looking the other way, she probably confused the 2 since a lot of people do.
@@redloona1085 thanku for telling me that, maybe she did confuse it with that
People forgave her because she obviously didn't realize and she apologized and took the photo down. Giselle knew better and knew what the word meant and is likely still in aespa because of nepotism.
I really liked the last confession. You said the exact thoughts I had for when the taehyung and Jennie dating rumors came out . Like tae is not even my bias or anything but I felt bad for those who were getting criticised because they felt some type of way when tae was dating someone, like it’s totally fine but when it gets to the point of hating on them, that’s where it has to stop.
I have lost interest in kpop.I wanted to become a stan again but seeing stuff like this happen makes me want to unstan all the groups i stanned before. At this point i dont even care about the stuff that happens in this nightmare of a fandom.The only time i go into kpop is when i wanna listen to music.
same
I'm not going to judge anyone about their thoughts about chaeyoung, she was very ignorant but about her apology I think people don't pay attention when she says that she thought that the symbol he was in different positions confusing them with the buddhist
what really makes me mad is the usage of text-to-speech voices in every single kpop video 😭
Its sad seeing fandoms become more and more annoying or just downright disrespectful.
I feel like you are the only creator that actually has controversial opinions. Everyone else tries to play it safe because they don’t want K-pop Stan’s to attack them. Every time I see a “controversial opinion K-pop video” it’s always “I hate when K-pop Stan’s ship idols together in a sexual way!” That isn’t controversial that’s what most K-pop Stan’s hate or the Wonyoung hate train needs to end. No sis that’s what the majority of K-pop Stan’s want. That’s why I love your channel because you keep it real and fresh. 💞💐
I completely agree with the chaeyoung and soloist confessions. I was such a big fan of twice's music like they were my number 1 Spotify artist for 2022 even though they're not even in my top 5 groups but after that n*z* situation i've had the ick. Now the whole group get nothing from me because one member wanted to be ignorant publicly.
And i also can't get into soloists, nothing against them but stanning groups is just so much more rewarding
100% agree with the chaeyoung thing. I’m Jewish and before that incident twice was my ult group and she was my ult bias. No I don’t think she’s a Nazi or antisemetic but she was ignorant and what she did was stupid and her apology sucked ass. As you said it literally felt like she didn’t care at all and even if she did she did absolutely nothing to show it.
i agree with every single one of these opinions
Thank God everytime bp, rv or twice is mentioned, mamamoo's fans swoop in an say "theyre the real mothers" "theyre more mature" n more like bro stfu😭😭
For Chaeyoung I don't know what you're talking about because it's definitely possible to not know all of the symbols involved, and she only wore the shirt ONCE. She hasn't had any other incidents so you must be confusing her with someone else. Literally RIGHT infront of jype building there is a Buddhist swastika she walks past almost every day for years so it's not strange that she confused the symbols. I can't dictate the way you feel about it but the fact of the matter is that she's made this mistake ONE time, immediately apologized, then later issued a company official apology, and hasn't repeated it since.
Humans make mistakes, and I find it strange we don't allow idols room to make those and to learn from it. She wore merch from a band she likes, saw a symbol she associates with Buddhism, and didn't think anything of it. People keep trying to turn it into something malicious when literally everyone who knows a single thing about Chaeyoung including people who know her irl, know she's a HUGE softie who advocates for peace and love constantly. This girl has literally no mean bone in her body, and I'm not exaggerating that. The rest of Twice members don't even want to play on the same team as her during games because of how mellow and noncompetitive she is naturally. She was just ignorant... I'm tired of people calling her a nazi.
100% agree with you
7:27 Can we please stop with this whole toxic parasocial relationships? Its not good for your mental health
But howww
Yeah I know right. It honestly sucks that companies are feeding into para social relationships I honestly feel bad for people falling into that crap.
7. Tru
Same like it’s only way to keep alive for me interested in Kpop
there literally multiple fandom who drag and compared other groups in order to uplift their favs vs moomoos who just simply stating the truth by saying mamamoo are talented like how is that cocky
It's not that. It's when they call mamamoo real women just because they don't do aegyo or because they have a more mature concept
My whole thing about Chae is that its okay for people to be upset about her actions but i hated that people were spreading info that couldnt be confirmed nor denied
Like people saying what korea teaches you about the holocaust and then other people saying that those people are wrong
That she never went to school because of idol training
That her statement said she didnt know what the symbol was at all when thats not what her statement said
People saying she paid hella money for the shirt, but i googled the shirt and found it for 25 usd on the first page of google
And then i learned through that whole incident that the symbol isnt even a swastika, that h*tler stole the symbol, rotated it, and called it a hakenkreuz
And apparently swastika's are more common than not to see in asia because of bhudist temples
So i personally believe that she saw the symbol and mistook it fot the swastika not the hakenkreuz, but the way the incident was handled didnt help and i think thats a little bit more on JYPE
Shes wrong for wearing the shirt, JYPE was wrong for trying not to make it a big deal because they were gonna be on tour soon. If anything, they shouldve made a bigger deal out of it BECAUSE they were about to go on tour
One thing that gets me is that Chae wore that shirt on multiple occasions, and no one ever told her about the shirt personally??? Whether she knew or not, no one ever said anything? Even when they were in the US?
@radioactive_baby0706 I'm convinced no person living in korea thought twice about it and no one in america paid attention enough to her outfit, thought she was just an edge lord, or didn't want to be confrontational.
Like they assumed she knew what she was wearing and decided to let her do what she wanted.
Like I know JYPE won't so far as to police their everyday wear but I think they completely dropped the ball on how they handled everything
i love your confession videos so much, and i 100% agree with the ones in this video!
i agree with opinion 1!!but ppl only consider it racist!! u've made plenty of opinions i've agreed with and a few i disagreed with and i wasn't sure wat ur take on that would be but wowwww
i enjoy survival shows for the same reason as u
On confession 9, if my bias (female or male) was dating another idol, I would legit STAN the idol thier dating cause it feels like there's a chance for me to have the person my bias is dating to be my bias in the group (if the person is a soloist, yk). It just find it interesting to see my biases date each other, yk?
actually the moomoo fandom i completley agree with. moomoo's litterally do not have any thing to say abt mamamoo thats not "they're so badass, they're not like all those other cute concept gg's" like yeah, MMM is badass but so are other groups (like XG, they're super under-rated) but moomoos capitalize on one feature and never talk about the other great things about mamamoo. (no hate, im a moomoo myself and i love mamamoo)
ikr chaeyoung bothers me SO much after what she did
This was such a good video and I agree with a lot of the opinions on it!
5. I totally agree with this one and also another fandom that gives “not like the other girls” vibes to me well maybe not girls but just in general is army. I’m an army but a lot of armies don’t know much about other K-pop groups and it shows. It’s fine if bts is the only K-pop group you Stan and if you don’t know that much about other K-pop groups but a lot of armies act like bts is the only good group and K-pop and the only one that makes meaningful music and have had great achievements when there are so many groups that make meaningful music and have broken records and had wonderful achievements not just bts.
I also notice how a lot of kpop stans seem to struggle to hype up their group without bringing down other groups at the same time. Like instead of just saying “x group has such good vocals” they’ll say “x groups vocals are better than y groups vocals” or “x group will outsing your faves” I think it’s dumb because it’s not hard to compliment your group without bringing down another? Like I think there would be so much less fighting if people just stopped comparing all the time.
6. I totally get you because I’m the same way. The only soloist I Stan is dpr Ian and he’s not really K-pop he’s more indie I guess I’m not sure but besides him I’m only really a casual listener to soloists.
8. I’m a multistan and I agree with this. It takes a lot of time to start stanning a new group. Not only do you get into their music but you start watching their content and having to memorize all the members names and faces etc and also keep up with what they’re doing. And then wanting to Stan a new group on top of stanning other groups is just a lot. I haven’t stanned a lot of K-pop groups recently, I started getting into billlie victon and xg but I don’t even consider myself a true fan of them yet because I’m still not fully knowing their names and faces or being into their discography. I want to Stan more groups of course and it is fun to look at new groups but it can be a lot at times. So I completely understand only stanning one
9. I also think it’s alright to feel a bit jealous if your idol starts dating. Tbh personally I feel happy for idols when they start dating like for example taehyung and Jennie I’ve been an army for awhile and I used to be a blink but I wasn’t at all really jealous of either of them but also neither of them are my biases in the group so maybe I’d feel different if jimin for example started dating since he’s my bias in bts. But there’s nothing wrong with it but as you said the problem comes when someone lets that jealousy cause them to do and say malicious things to these idols.
Overall I agree with basically all the opinions you said and I really enjoy ur unpopular opinion videos because you leave no crumbs everytime lol
about chaeyoung, she didn't do it twice. if you're referring to the q anon shirt, that was not a shirt she personally picked, it was her stylist. not to mention that symbol is not as widely known as the nazi symbol.
she wore the nazi shirt before the viral photo
She didn't do it twice, she wore it three times.....
once in a jewish restaurant in NY styled with a polka dot button up and hair down, second with a floral crop top sweater, hair in a ponytail and lastly at the Billboard Women's Music Awards , styled with just a white jacked, hair down again talking to Kim Petras. These were all different days.
(I agree the Q Anon was not hers but the stylists fault, but the sid/nazi shirt she wore multiple times and it was hers)
@@Tails131no dumbdumb that was all the same day. She wore the shirt ONE day, and they went to different places in the same day because of busy schedule
most of these where horrible takes
Confession 4 i feel you very much and ill say it the groups that give me that feeling are New jeans and Kiss of life, Its not the girls that bother me,its the fans
Confession 1: i disagree with you big time, here me out, if more non Asians debuted, it will become
something normal and accepted, it's normal that it's shocking at the beginning since it's not common
Confession 2 and 3 : i agree fully
Confession 4: i disagree, it never happened to me, probably because i don't give a f about toxic fans
Confession 5: i agree, mamamoo fans, and bts's are the first that popped in my head
Confession 6 : i disagree, at first i was like you but lately I've been getting into soloists and it's interesting
Confession 7 : survival shows are fun, i agree with you
Confession 8: i agree
Confession 9 : i kinda agree, it is okay however extremely weird, well maybe because I'm asexual so idk
Actually for the chaeyoung O’Neill disagree cuz I’ m not from the west and I honestly never knew that that sign even existed before this accident and I still have no idea what it means I just know it’s controversial so sorry to break it to you but not everyone knows everything abt your culture.
That's valid I mean the rising sun flag is offensive in China, South Korea and Indonesia but I'm sure there's lots of people in the West who don't know that
Southkorea was part of the second World War its also their History
@@lunaris7342 bro the whole world learns abt ww2 history at some points me included so yeah I don't expect her to care much abt it still, like sure what the nazi did was bad but so many other things that r just as bad happened so why y'all so hung up on hitler
Nothing wrong with a black woman debuting
I have to agree with confession 7 tho. It’s the only way for me to make interest in Kpop as well
It's sad the confession 6 is relatable like I feel bad for these soloists cuz it's obvious that most people are into groups
Don't forget that different countries focus on different parts of the world wars. Korea was not dealing with the Nazis the same way Westerners were. They were dealing with Japan. I guarantee most westerners don't know what went down with Japan outside of the bombs. I see so many kpop fans get mad when Korean dislike something related to Japan, but in Korea, Japan's actions back then were equivalent to what the Nazis did. Both cultures focus on different aspects.
I feel like your controversial kpop opinions aren't really controversial. Or do we just share similar opinions idk. They make a lot of sense and are like normal opinions to have?? I feel like only crazy delulu kpop fans would get angry about them
Most get angry😭
confession 9... no it is not okay to be jealous over someone dating who u have no personal connection with, like go touch grass if u feel jealous over ur favs dating and go find some friends cause you must be really damn lonely
nooooo frrrrr can we talk about how previous interactions with fandoms literally creep into your subconscious and give u opinions on people you've never listened to or watched lmao im so sorry but that's army and bts for me rip
Abt chaeyoung (confession 2):
It’s totally fine if you don’t personally support her anymore, but I keep hearing how people need to hold her accountable, yet she’s already took responsibility for it. I also don’t understand why everyone is to acting like she is a n*zi herself.
Ig holding accountable means the witch hunt that was going on for chaeyoung to keep going on for years to come because she faced IMMENSE backlash apologised within hours and went IA for almost a month it's just sad to see people still holding grudges like i do agree with other ONCE's saying you can't call yourself a once because twice themself claim each other as 9 call yourself a casual listener no one will attack you for that just keep chae out of this she did enough people stan more problematic idols that said things wearing a shirt out of ignorance is not equivalent to saying xenophobic racist slurs knowing what it means
But I've decided to make peace with the split
Confession 4 is how I feel about Ive. Idk what it is but they’re just so iffy to me.
As a Jew I can’t get my self to forgive her, and I don’t think it will ever happen no matter how hard I try. I feel the same way as you do, I can’t even stand looking at her, it makes me sick, now I don’t hate her because we don’t know the real reasons, but still I’m sure she has some knowledge, and I’m sure she knew what that symbol meant.
i mean if it makes you feel better right infront of the jype building there's what i think it's a shop and it has the Buddhist symbol right in front of it which is a swastika but looking the other way, she probably confused the 2 since a lot of people do.
1- fr I totally get it. The industry is not ready.
2- I totally respect your opinion and it is YOUR decision but I don't agree personally.
3- for me i think that even that is staged so I don't even allow myself to enjoy interactions between idols tbh
4- it never happened to me but I get it Fandoms really make bad publicity abt their faves.
5- I feel like that applies to ANY group like almost everyone that stans another group these days be like that like it's not exclusive to some gg's.
6- TOTALLY DISAGREE eunbi, chungha and many more are saving kpop but are still sooo underrated I love soloits
7- idc about trainees and don't like survival shows
8- they are not superior but there are certainly less multistans bringing other groups down than ppl that only like one group.
9- yes but expressing it online where they can see it you have to be REALLY careful and ppl usually aren't
When you think abt it Chae shirt couldn't possibly be a mistake, that shirt was hard to find so you have to actively look for it, plus it is 500 dollars, idk abt u but I wouldn't buy a shirt for 500 dollars esp if I don't know what the symbols mean. And anyone CAN recognise that one symbol, first time it happened it was a flag used by a certain political group in America that is... shady I will say and so I don't blame her for not knowing, even some Americans can fail to recognise it. BUT THIS ONE ?? Nah I'm sorry I can't buy any excuse, either she just doesn't care or she is ignorant af.
And cherry one top: her 3 lines apology ?? Why is Tzuyu (HER BANDMATE) obliged to make a whole video of her apologizing and even crying for raising her flag when Chaeyoung can get away with such a small, fake apology ? Dammit some onces even trended the hashtag we love you Chaeyoung... They just don't take us seriously and that's it I unstanned her bc I'm not a fool and I still have some moral values
I agree that a lot of ppl forgot the situation a bit too quickly, but I genuinely feel like Chaeyoung is reflecting on her actions. I am not defending her for what she did, but I do feel like she doesn’t support neo-nazism. As for the shirt, I heard you can buy that shirt for 30$ off of Etsy or even Spencer’s so it’s really not that hard to find. I just hope that Chaeyoung is careful of what she wears next time, since almost everyone should know what the symbol means.
@@pochaccito.1 If that's the case then I'm more than happy to hear it
opinion ,I don’t think u need to spend money to Stan I mean if u have the money then try to support your group but if u don’t then try to support them in a 0$ way
You're like 5-6 month late on Chaeyoung hate train. Most of us have moved on and given her 2nd chance.
i 100% agree with you on confession 1,2 and 5. I’m a twice stan and i found it so stupid how some once’s ran to defend chaeyoung and get mad when you bring it up like what? u can’t even bring up that u don’t like chaeyoung cause they get so mad for what? 😭
I agree with the first one a lot. It's fine with me to debute non koreans but the fans got it to far.. For example in X:IN where Aria and Nova are non koreans they get a lot of praised for being Indian/Russian? And what if they're Indian/Russian? What about their talents? As most of us know Indians are big K-pop fans and that's why Aria gets so much love than former members Ch.iu, Roa and the members now Hannah, Nizz and E.Sha. Now for Nova.. Russians are getting into K-pop because of Nova and not the whole group so that's why she's also more loved. I'm not a hater and not hating Aria and Nova nor I stan the group.
Tho they are Asians but due to the race, they got much hate
Rova still got love from her country, but Aria??? She was called Korean fish and chappri by her own Indian people
Now I understand why she left
And also first Russian idol is Lana
@@yuqi_cottage333 Really? I didn't know that's horrible...
@niki_niki_mura It is
Just imagine getting hate by your own country is just top-tier sadness
@@yuqi_cottage333 ikr
@niki_niki_mura can u just imagine she worked so hard then got this
Literally, some indian so-called chapri boys can't tolerate their own people being successful, especially if it's a girl cause they only got one thing to do " women ☕️ "
I also lost all my respect for Chaeryeong
100% agree with confession 6…i’m the exact same way, i’ve always had trouble getting into soloists 😭
Omg i really love your videos and i totally agree
Ngl this channel is underrated
And specially when u talk abt ive content.
7:25 Ill always make fun of those who get jealous over it Im sorry🤭
Then it means you've never had a crush on a movie star before. It totally happens bcs we're humans not stones. And we just end up getting over it
@@Everythingz127 THIS!!!
SAME also cute cat
ikr it’s weird, the idol doesn’t even know you 🤣
I used to actively follow a bunch of idols/groups, but keeping up with their albums and everything got tiring. Nowadays, I only really actively follow a few.
A couple of my favorite artists to follow are Holland and Jackson Wang. :)
Chaeyoung is not stupid. Jewish people on tiktok explained that in Buddhism there’s a sign that look exactly like the n@zi sign but it has a different meaning, well buddhism is very popular in Korea and many temples have this sign so Chaeyoung thought it’s the Buddhism sign
It is not Buddhism never consider Tiktok a valid source, It first originated in India "Swastika'" and was a sign of something auspicious and would be used in temples from there this sign traveled all over Asia. Then it came to the hands of that aeshole Hitler who tilted the sign up a bit and made a flag out of it to signify the Aaryan race (basically the whites ).. If it was a buddhist one it would be straight ... You can do some research about it.
@@World_is_my_Oyster right infront of the jype building there's what i think it's a shop and it has the Buddhist symbol right in front of it which is a swastika but straight and looking the other way, she probably confused the 2 since a lot of people do.
Chaeyoung is Christian
@@World_is_my_Oyster thank you for explaining it
@@World_is_my_Oystershe literally said she didn't notice it was tilted. She sees the buddhist sign every day it's literally everywhere in korea. She got it confused, thought it was a Buddhist sign, turned out it wasn't, and then the whole shitstorm happened
"Yes your faves are unique but you should learn to appreciate them without rubbing it in other faces..."
Then wtf are you doing?!
The first confession threw me off a bit but there is nothing wrong with that. Me personally I really want to see more POC considering that K-pop is kind’ve made off of them. But I do particularly dislike when the foreign member is just the punching bag of the group.
Chaeyoung, I actually cannot stand her but I’m not going to drag and make false rumors about her. Personally I hate the people who try to force the “all or nothing” type thing (meaning if you don’t like one member might as well not stan the group) it’s okay if I don’t like her I’m not gonna unstan the group just because I don’t like someone in particular.
Confession 5 I don’t like when fandoms try to be different or act like the group is different from other groups. I don’t like when they think they’re a superior fandom than others, so they bring each other down. I think it’s dumb because I would want the best for other groups I don’t know why people have to be so negative and act like everything is a competition when it isn’t.
This is irrelevant but I just wanna talk about these Kpop news channels and how they’re so biased. The Yena and Yuqi “I don’t rodrigo” situation wasn’t even as bad as these channels try to make it. One channel in particular were bringing both of the girls down but did not once mention the company who went through with it?
JayPark situation the channel completely defended him when clearly there was proof saying he was innocent when he wasn’t
Now recently I’ve seen a channel go after Yeh Shuhua for doing playing harmlessly with Yuqi? They were completely victim blaming her and making her seem like the bad guy, and repeatedly saying Yuqi absolutely hated it? They’re friends not enemies
A lot of people have opinions on chaeyoung, but I would actually like to know how many people around the world know of the holocaust and had it in history class. I personally doubt every country teaches it, but i dont know that and thats why i would love to find out. Her shirt was also not - only - a swastika shirt, it was a vivienne westwood shirt of sid vicious with the swastika shirt on it. I would like to know what people thought of him wearing that and vivienne westwood making that shirt. also because the only other swastika shirt of hers i found had written DESTROY above it. So this is obviously not about anyone being a nazi but the discussion if and how its acceptable to depict the swastika symbol. Personally I dont really find a punk swastika shirt that bad because its very obvious its not showing the beliefs of the person wearing it and specifically someone asian might not be connected that much to the history of it.
Youre infantilizing asians
why?@@vickybabadoo9927
This is really controversial but my confession that i don't really mind debuting minors as long as they're getting clean and non sexual concepts .. people be acting like minors are not complete people that is worthy of respect and they dont have dreams and their own life.. and I've listened to other people explaining why they against their debut and they will mostly say to protect them from the toxic industry and protect their mental health and i don't understand how YOU bullying them is good for their mental health in any way 💀 or its a waste of their childhood and they be having 100 times happier childhood than most people did .. you act like normal young people would never experience criticism and hate in their life they only will if they debuted as idols ..
I agreed with everything you said until here "you act like normal young people would never experience criticism and hate in their life they only will if they debuted as idols.
People act like that because it's true. Normal young people wont go through AS MUCH criticism and hate in their lives, compared to underage idols. Everything else you said was totally fine, they can debut with good concepts and people shouldn't bully them. But we can't deny that this industry isn't normal at all.
fully agree on chaeyoung, i keep seeing people go back to stanning her normally as if nothing happened and its throwing me off a lot
i mean if it makes you feel better right infront of the jype building there's what i think it's a shop and it has the Buddhist symbol right in front of it which is a swastika but looking the other way, she probably confused the 2 since a lot of people do.
Why did did she Murder someone??
0:32 Meeeeee tooooo ! I always was treat as a xenophobe !! It's why I don't want Chanelle to debut.
Now time for my confession.
I have to admit that I don't like the most of gg like I do with bg because the most of gg have the "cute" concept and seeing them doing aegyo the most of the time and I find it cringy. I mean, bg does too but sometimes, not all time and i feel bad for the girls because i know the most of them are forced to. I don't like that people see that girls are just cute and babydolls, like, WE'RE MORE THAN THAT, and i think they should be allowed to show who they really are. I mean, that they could show the girls with actitud and fearless that they are because that makes them unique and it's sad that real beauty has to be hidden.
reasons why i dont like foreigners in kpop:
- kpop is asian, and i think that we should let asia have something of their own instead of white people budding into other cultures. whenever i see people talking abt wanting to become a kpop idol its always people asking if its ok since their white. i understand if your half asian, but i think that its not okay for foreigners to debut.
- members will outshine other members
- lots of people might be racist and that could cause a lot of hate
- companies will use them for popularity
just say u fetishise asians no need to write a long ass paragraph
kpop as “genre” uses many western inspired things (e.g. hip hop) so why can’t non asians partake in something that uses things from their own culture(s)
so dumb.
aint NO WAY chaeyoung did not know what the fircken nazi symbol was. girl be fr fr🙄
i mean if it makes you feel better right infront of the jype building there's what i think it's a shop and it has the Buddhist symbol right in front of it which is a swastika but looking the other way, she probably confused the 2 since a lot of people do.
@@redloona1085 shes still and idol and she shouldve known that people with get them mixed up either way. why take the risk and ruin your image. thats just embarrassing for a grown woman.
@@racha1677 OR (hear me out), she didn't notice the small sign meant something offensive when she sees almost an identical sign that means something good everyday when she goes to work.
Not everyone knows a lot about history specially someone who was having a full time job at 13, she entered twice and on her teenage years she attended a survival show and released 6 mini albums, 1 full album, 2 singles, learned 9 dance + variety shows and dance practices + concerts.
She's a very busy woman and started having a succesful career in her teenage years you think she would pay THAT much attention to a almost identical sign that she sees everyday on her way to work and means something good there?
@@redloona1085 ok good point but isnt jyp known for giving their idols the most random classes in literally EVERYTHING. you'd think he'd give them a class in inappropriate symbols and sayings so they don't get them mixed up like she did here. i dunno but kpop idols are not dumb. I'm pretty sure they read the news and keep up with things happening around the world. if she was 16 and made that mistake, it still would not have been acceptable. we don't have to make excuses for her when she knew to some degree that her actions always have consequences whether good or bad. I honestly don't have anything against her i just don't like how she could just wear anything say anything and her apology could still be so carless. what is a two sentence apology for years of hurting and suffering caused by that symbol. honestly no excuses for her at all.
@@racha1677 what more did you want her to write? she didn't realize that the logo was bad due to what i mentioned before, she mistook a symbol for another, it's not that big of a deal, if she DID know it was the nazi symbol why would she have worn it on the first place? Do you really think an IDOL out of all people will try to get their reputation ruined? And also i still don't know where y'all got that JYP gives lessons on everything.