It really is that simple. I like to use very simple plugins for the mastering chain because they don't color the sound like some of the expensive ones do
I just saw a vid from apmastering about clippers. When your face changed when the clipper topic started, I understood 😂 Great vid Scott, you can be sure I'll throw this to people asking me about this topic.
Hey Scotty, great and helpful video. I had a good laugh at "there are no rules, blah, blah, blah" and the (but there kinda are) face you made after saying that 😂 You know what we are going for!
Interesting that you have the clipper before the "glue" compressor, any particular thoughts behind that workflow? Clipper before limiter is quite often but never saw this before .
Most likely helps the compressor do it's job easier because it won't have to deal with huge spikes. Compressor if not set to limit will anyway allow those spikes through.
Yes, transient control. The clipper just makes the entire waveform more consistent and then the compressor doesn't have to work as hard. I can also add some gain and fatten up the mix going into the compressor.
@@ChernobylAudio666 same reason why would someone put it before the limiter , I will try my clipper in that position too on my next mix see how it sounds
Is there a recomondation you have for smoothing out the distortion from clipping? I like the way it sounds when you clip the bus by overdriving it. But somtimes the crackle can be too much
Apparently iron Maiden haven't even bothered mastering their last bunch of records. Steve Harris likes the sound of the board mix and that's what they print.
There’s nothing inherently wrong with going compressor -> clipper -> limiter, but if you do it like that, you’ll be clipping a signal that doesn’t have as many dramatic transient peaks. Since the loudest parts of the mix will be turned down by the compressor. If you clip first, you’re decreasing the volume of just those peaks and adding some subtle distortion. The compressor would therefore end up affecting more of the overall mix since the peaks aren’t as dramatic.
@@DanSaillant thanks for the answer, sounds super insightful. Would the compressor cause the distortion (if you go that far with clipping) to go out of hand or wouldn't that even matter?
Already wouldn't matter because the mix would sound terrible with too much clipping/distortion, so ideally you wouldn't use that much before going into the compressor \m/
Interesting chain. The latest video I just posted has a master chain that was probably 3-4 times more complicated than what you just showed. I'm not sure if that is a good or bad thing ha ha
It can get complicated, but each plugin should have a purpose, it's when you put the chain together and you look at every part of it and can explicitly state WHY that plugin is there, then I think that's fine!
Quick question, I wanted to download and experiment with the plugins you recommended but it doesn't seem like GClip is compatible with my version of Logic. It just doesn't show up at all in my Plug-In manager and I've been trying to troubleshoot and it sounds like this is a common problem without a resolution... Do you have any suggestions for another similar plugin?
@@ChernobylAudio666 No worries, your vid has plenty of good info in it that I can find a replacement and bring that knowledge into the the new plugin. Thanks for the reply and thanks for the video!
They have older versions on their website that are compatible with intel. You'll also have to do xatrr command to remove them from quarantine that apple puts unsigned stuff in.
The most important plugin for me for mastering is a referencing plugin like Metric A/B.
It really is that simple. I like to use very simple plugins for the mastering chain because they don't color the sound like some of the expensive ones do
It's always the basics that get the job done, isn't it? haha
@@ChernobylAudio666 A master craftsman will get the job done with the tools at hand. A no talent hack will blame the tools.
well explained, thank you very much... keep on going with this content!
Thanks for the upload, Scott. This will be a valuable addition to my studies.
I just saw a vid from apmastering about clippers. When your face changed when the clipper topic started, I understood 😂
Great vid Scott, you can be sure I'll throw this to people asking me about this topic.
Oh yeah APMastering, very clearly an intelligent and knowledgable guy, I like his videos actually, they are interesting!
Great video Scott. Love your channel and your resources.
Thank you!
Thank you Scott. Great video.
Have you ever thought of doing a proper video on eliminating "masking" with proq3?? I would definitely appreciate that one!
Lots of valuable advice. Great video. Thanks. :)
Awesome tutorial!...Knowledge deliverance 🔥🔥🔥
thanks Scott 🤘🤘
Hey Scotty, great and helpful video. I had a good laugh at "there are no rules, blah, blah, blah" and the (but there kinda are) face you made after saying that 😂
You know what we are going for!
Interesting that you have the clipper before the "glue" compressor, any particular thoughts behind that workflow? Clipper before limiter is quite often but never saw this before .
Most likely helps the compressor do it's job easier because it won't have to deal with huge spikes. Compressor if not set to limit will anyway allow those spikes through.
Yes, transient control. The clipper just makes the entire waveform more consistent and then the compressor doesn't have to work as hard. I can also add some gain and fatten up the mix going into the compressor.
@@ChernobylAudio666 same reason why would someone put it before the limiter , I will try my clipper in that position too on my next mix see how it sounds
Smooths out the signal so you hear the compressor working less probably
Is there a recomondation you have for smoothing out the distortion from clipping? I like the way it sounds when you clip the bus by overdriving it. But somtimes the crackle can be too much
Let the transients of the snare fly it sounds good
A lil analog harmonics with a lil push ok but don’t just slam it.
Good stuff man
Apparently iron Maiden haven't even bothered mastering their last bunch of records. Steve Harris likes the sound of the board mix and that's what they print.
I just did a client that I didn't even use limiting on at all, felt kinda weird almost but it's nice to see this loudness war trend coming to an end!
My ADHD ass getting ahead of the video: the immortal words or Peter Tägtren...
Scott: Peter Griffrin
Me: THE FUCK?!
Hahahahaha, it's one of my favorite gags on The Family Guy!
Interesting, I've always learned to put the Clipper right before the Limiter. What's tbe initial difference with that approach?
There’s nothing inherently wrong with going compressor -> clipper -> limiter, but if you do it like that, you’ll be clipping a signal that doesn’t have as many dramatic transient peaks. Since the loudest parts of the mix will be turned down by the compressor. If you clip first, you’re decreasing the volume of just those peaks and adding some subtle distortion. The compressor would therefore end up affecting more of the overall mix since the peaks aren’t as dramatic.
@@DanSaillant thanks for the answer, sounds super insightful. Would the compressor cause the distortion (if you go that far with clipping) to go out of hand or wouldn't that even matter?
Already wouldn't matter because the mix would sound terrible with too much clipping/distortion, so ideally you wouldn't use that much before going into the compressor \m/
Interesting chain. The latest video I just posted has a master chain that was probably 3-4 times more complicated than what you just showed. I'm not sure if that is a good or bad thing ha ha
It can get complicated, but each plugin should have a purpose, it's when you put the chain together and you look at every part of it and can explicitly state WHY that plugin is there, then I think that's fine!
Quick question, I wanted to download and experiment with the plugins you recommended but it doesn't seem like GClip is compatible with my version of Logic. It just doesn't show up at all in my Plug-In manager and I've been trying to troubleshoot and it sounds like this is a common problem without a resolution... Do you have any suggestions for another similar plugin?
Hey man, I really don't. When I had an M1, the GClip worked for me so I didn't look any further for something else. Sorry to be a bummer :(
@@ChernobylAudio666 No worries, your vid has plenty of good info in it that I can find a replacement and bring that knowledge into the the new plugin. Thanks for the reply and thanks for the video!
They have older versions on their website that are compatible with intel. You'll also have to do xatrr command to remove them from quarantine that apple puts unsigned stuff in.
I like @resingtons master chain