@@Delicate_swift so all evidence is only in pt 2 then? Even more a case of clickbaiting people. Now we gotta sit through another video to get any actual information? Hard pass!
Some Swifties are very toxic, and that is you. Taylor has ended relationships that had no problems before. Stop spreading rumors that literally have no basis.
Pretty good circumstantial evidence though, and pretty naive of you to think a break up happens when there's no problems. Even amicable endings are due to some kind of something that wasn't working. Oh well, she's stronger than ever, has amazing people around her, she will be fine dear.
@@vcheekv there is no circumstancial evidence of Joe cheating. It is completely baseless, and I will agree with you that breakups do not happen with nothing behind it because Swift is the one with a new guy so soon, so I will take that clear evidence.
Shut up. Get off your golden couch: There was obviously some type of BIG problem bc Taylor thought that was her forever person and then it ended abruptly. Any real Swiftie knows Taylor is the most loyal human ever. And hopelessly romantic and optimistic. Joe did SOMETHING
shorts comment section about taylor vs tiktok ones are so different. that’s why i prefer taylor content on here because people actually have a scrap of common sense
I think that's also because Tay cheated on 3 of her boyfriends from what I know?(Harry, Calvis and Joe). I could be wrong so don't take my random comment as a fact haha
Please listen to her new album. Joe did not cheat, their relationship ran its course, they're incompatible, she was bored. She also has been the one pining for Matty Healy while still with Joe.
“I’ve never heard of the movie, which explains his financial problems” yea sorry to tell you tho you’re not the center of the world, not bcz you haven’t heard of it means it’s doing poorly , and Joe probably has more money than you will ever have anyway
I am a big Swiftie, but if the fandom keeps antagonizing Joe, that gives me more of a reason to support Joe (unless he is proven to be guilty). I think most of the people trashing on Joe never liked him, but kept quiet since they like Taylor. Like, this man literally loved her at her worst. I think Joe and Taylor need space. And just because he is filming with Emma doesn’t mean he’s dating her. I mean, there’s a lot of couples in tv, but they actors aren’t always dating. How often do you see that? Also, what would be the fandom’s reaction if it turns out Taylor really “did something bad”? This gives me a reason to like Joe more and to annoy the toxic Swifties.
@@abbied yeah, besides it makes this comment even better lol. And it proves that I’m a real swiftie. The joe haters probably don’t even know abt this song.
To ever accuse that sweet boy was insane to begin with. And to think Taylor wanted Matty the whole time. BUT you can't help who you fall in love with. I wish them both the best.
@@avoelle2605 I think we should have already accepted that Taylor isn't great at fidelity. Not that she can't do it, but she's obviously been unsuccessful at least a couple times before TTPD. We should have come to terms with that and probably felt really off accusing anybody of cheating on her when a relationship ended.
I think Emma posted a reel of several photos of her and cast members from the film, and Joe was just in _one_ of the photos. The "Moments in March" included several photos, and Joe was only in one.
All these basic ass videos trying to villainize joe with absolutely no evidence just proof that he hung out with his costars on set like most actors do are so annoying. Like just stop. Leave Joe alone.
Idc about you all. You call yourself swifties and all you do is make her exes villians. I love her and I am a huge fan of her but Idk about what's going on with her life, and I'm fine with it. It's ok if you like to know everything about her and all, but maybe she is not always the victim in relationships. What if she stopped loving joe? Maybe she is the reason of breakup. Maybe joe's the victim. So stop caring about her love life. It's none of our business. If you love her just listen her songs and keep up with updates. Don't judge her or her exes
I agree. Also, if you listen to the song “you’re losing me” it seems like she and Joe just kind of fell out of love, I don’t think it was this dramatic.
@@welldamnjackie1320 wish the rest of the so-called "fans" thought this way, but oh no, it's ALL joe's fault to them. honestly, i mostly feel bad for joe in this situation and not taylor.
@@elliesrubieskpop I know lol some swifties are so ridiculous. The reason her and Joe broke up is none of their business yet they feel entitled to know every detail of what happened.
@@elliesrubieskpopsadly that cult will do anything to protect mOthEr, even if (touch wood) she did the most horrid thing anyone could do (eg. m*rd*r), listen to me when I say they will find anything and i mean ANYTHING to defend taylor with. I love taylor, her songs are great, but toxic swifties, no, not today, not ever, if using "SLAYYY❤️❤️🥰😍" is their only way to win an argument. What's worse is that if Taylor says just the tiniest bad thing about her fanbase, its gonna be the doja drama and her reputation era all over again.
Honestly all the evidence on her album points to Taylor emotionally cheating on Joe with Matty Healy. She even wrote guilty as sin. Stop attacking the poor loyal handsome man who’s already depressed and lost someone he truly loved to a middle aged fuck boy bad-boy-band member. Smh
@@kris.strelchenkoemotional affairs are absolutely real. Therapist here. Can confirm. It’s the act of giving the emotional energy that you’d give your partner to someone else. It’s real enough to even be indicated to in laws regarding divorce if a person can prove that third party alienated them from their spouse. I’m not saying she did. That would be a crazy amount of speculation, but I can’t help but state that emotional affairs are real. Of course ppl are going to speculate given that there’s “Easter eggs” TS plants throughout her lyrics for exactly this purpose
Joe was depressed and Taylor didn’t want to support him, but when Taylor was depressed he supported the fuck out of her, I’m a swiftie but that’s pure narcissism
Why do some swifties like making her ex a villan? Where is the concrete proof? After all the relationship she has went through, she couldn't keep any of the relationship and she has a tendency of victimizing herself(except Taylor Lautner). Her songs are one sided after all and the listeners judge everything based on the information from her lyrics, so it's unfair for her exes. She could have been wrong.
@@nishthagupta1357 Oh come on, when Taylor was with Tom, she was already in love with Joe and it was her who ended relationship with Tom. Tom seems like a nice person. Too bad it was just a rebound relationship. And you still say they deserve it? Don't make judgements or asuumptions when you know nothing about what happened between them. You smell like one of these simple haters(aggressive Swifties).
I don't think I will believe any of these rumors until Taylor's next song If he cheated on her then the tea would be served in the song But I still don't think he cheated well for now
Come on Swifties, we are better than that. Let’s not put others down. Also, her personal life is non of our business. She went to great lengths, to keep her personal as private as possible. She wants us to talk about her amazing music and not gossip sh*t about her boyfriend (maybe ex-boyfriend. But who cares?).
Taylor seems so ok that i think she basically got tired of having this private life and wanted a slay era, which is hard when you have to be the most private public celebrity ever for your boyfriend... When you look at midnights, a lot of songs like bejeweled, maroon, midnight rain could all really be about joe
That's very true. Lyric said 'He want commitment, she want name'. So i guess she still want to work, and do not settle for marriage. I also think, it might be because Joe doesn't like fame, so Taylor want to protect that relationship, so she kept it from public for 6years. Afterall, I do hope Joe get a good girl. He seem super nice.
I mean she herself said THEY made the choice to go private. Not that she did it for him. People need to stop blaming joe for Taylor’s choices. We’re all about how Taylor is a girl boss feminist until it comes to joe then suddenly she bet to his will and kept her locked in the basement.
He was too depressed to marry her and She got bored. So, she found her thrill in Matty Healy. And then, they broke up. He moved out of their Heathens House in London and she started dating Matty.
man as a person who follows joe with all her heart: 1. he usually follows his co stars (the ones he's close with) and he doesn't even follow her! 2. Emma Laird has a a rep for being a clout chaser. 3. HE DOESN'T HAVE FINANCIAL PROBLEMS! HE EARNS A MIL EACH YEAR SO SEEMS LIKE ANYONE WITH A FINANCIAL PROBLEM IS... you
Taylor cheated on joe. Go listen to her midnight album and then make shorts. Please don’t just assume. “High infidelity” “Do you really wanna know where I was April 29th?” “Broke his heart cause he was nice” “He wanted it comfortable I wanted that pain. He stayed the same. All of me changed like midnight rain.” “He wanted a bride I was making my own name. Chasing that fame all of me changed like midnight rain”
Bro, swifties shouldn’t be taking sides without proof. Joe loved Taylor for 6-7 years!! Joe loved Taylor. Also, we should be taking Joe and Taylor’s side.
I'm a swiftie, but I hate speculations like this, Joe and Tay had kept their relationship very private, and so the full reason of their break up although their side said that the relationship "Just run its course", - Let's just be happy for them, our Idols are humans too and they are not perfect. Overall, I love Taylor Swift for her Music, Her Personality, Her Cleverness, Her being a strong independent woman fighting for Women Rights. There's always so much in the box than we know.
Seriously why can't people realize that they know nothing about this celebrities and spreading rumors on assumptions is silly to say the least. Taylor and joe may or may not have broken up,no matter what it is,it is none of our business. We will keep supporting them
I hope y'all feel great cause now we know that the worst thing Joe did was be depressed and not marry her.. While she borderline cheated with Matty who is the muse for 75% of the TTPD songs
My heart goes out to all the swifties who don't act like Regina from mean girls 24/7 and just act normal❤️❤️❤️, Im just so sorry yall got twinkles like this in ur fanbase and making yall look bad.
Taylor Relationship Always Trouble, And Her fans Always defending him and blaming his partner Even She has 10+ ex, It's weird that it's all his ex fault, Joe said he Seeing Taylor holding hands at the restaurant alone with Matt.
First of all, it’s “The Brutalist” and it’s just getting done being filmed. It’s an indie film with Adrian Brody, Guy Pearce and Felicity Jones. Yeah it must not be “making any waves” because YOU’VE never heard of it. What a crock this video is.
They are all actually the same colour, those are lime scooters. They are these scooters that you can rent everywhere in Europe, they are all painted the same stupid lime colour. The fact that these are lime scooters makes them so irrelevant in this whole drama because they are literally EVERYWHERE in Europe. You could go out to 14 different places on 14 different nights and always have one of these things in a photo. So even tho they are the same colour, there is a very high chance that they are not the same scooters.
I think Taylor has too high of standards going after the interesting guys who are bound to hurt you and she cant try being with an actual genuine guy for a change who actually truly sees her and loves her. Its really sad because shes gorgeous and she really deserves someone who looks after her. But she has to find the one who will actually do that
Some girls are bound to be attracted to bad boys (me too) and sometimes it's hard to give up that habit. For these girls, 'good guys' can be just too boring...
that’s what i suspected too, we don’t know them irl so i didn’t jump to conclusions but i wouldn’t be surprised based on some of her lyrics on midnights
The fact that you swifties bashing on the guy that gave Taylor the support she needed for years and helped her overcome her problems shows the type of a crowd you are, I’m a swiftie myself and the way you swifties act is so uncalled for, doing what you do best and bashing on her exes, seriously, leave Joe alone, not even one of her most supportive exes (if not the most supportive) is safe from your craziness says it all, swifties are going wild because after the break up, Taylor and all her friends unfollowed Joe, tell me now, how many of you keep following their exes after a break up? And the others who unfollowed Joe are Taylor’s friends not his so I don’t understand why is it such a big deal, ever thought that it might be because the break up was hard for her and she didn’t want anything reminding her with no hard feelings involved? I love Taylor so much but she can’t be the victim in all her relationships, what if Joe was the victim and she hurt him? Who knows? Not every relationship has to end up with the two hating each other, not every break up is somebody’s fault, Neither Taylor nor Joe said a word about what happened so I believe the rest of us should just shut up, you say you’re her fans but being a fan isn’t only listening to your faves’ songs or watching their TV shows/ movies, a good fan doesn’t bash on everyone that was in their fave’s life at some point, a good fan holds their fave accountable and not victimise them in all situations, a good fan supports what makes their fave happy and care about their happiness without thinking they have a say in it, like dating, for example, okay some couples look cute but didn’t work out, okay just because a couple looks cute together doesn’t mean they’re destined to be together for the rest of their lives but some “fans” don’t understand that, they’re like “awwww cute couple, please be back together” well, guess what? They’re not each other’s happiness, stuff like that happen even to non- celebrities or when they ask for the old versions of their fave because “they miss them” celebrities are allowed to be whoever they want and if you’re a fan as you say you are, you love them no matter who they choose to be so if you’re not any of that then you’re just a so called fan
We are rarely hearing from the men side. Its always Taylor side. Some of Her exs are married already so basically they are ready to be committed. So if the taylor is the one who remain single up to now, you can conclude it by your self.
This guy is just toxic, she dated Joe for 6 years, it was committed, and according to you’re losing me, she was rejected in marriage. This is all fake.
Joe never cheated pls lmao, if he cheated they would’ve dropped that in the PR split articles and not, “Taylor wants to be friends with him” (which they no longer are.)
Let's blame Joe shall we!!!!!. Taylor wanted a quiet relationship away from the public eye. He didn't want the intrusion. Now she wants to date a man who is dubious and a party loving ,crazy bloke. She used Joe at a time when she needed him. He even wrote songs under a different name. I think she loves the fame and her career. I hope he meets a nice girl who won't write immature songs about their relationship.
I speak about this like in every time people said toxic thing about Taylor's exes. Like, come on people! Taylor not so innocent. She also cheated on people before. And not every Taylor's exes is bad too. Joe seem so nice. He really is.
@@farahidayu8876 Yeah! I LOVE Taylor, but that doesn’t mean that she hasn’t done anything bad (*cough cough*, the song *cough*). Like, Taylor L is amazing and Harry is pretty good, Tom as well. I feel bad for Joe and I hope he and Taylor both heal and are doing well.
@@abbied oh my gosh, I did not realize. I included Harry bc I knew I’d probably get replies saying to include Harry. I didn’t know, and thank you for informing me.
@@kanak4198 Oh sorry! I kinda thought it was because of the lyric that says “When someone plays the starting line and you jump up but she’s to young to know this song”
April 18th: TTPD came out! Also, please don’t hate on Joe he loved her when everybody thought she was a liar and a snake their relationship ran its course and nobody needs to stay in the past.😊
None of what is in this video is true but I just thought it was funny that the lyrics from “Is it over now” say “your knew girl is my clone”, and “if she has blue eyes I will surmise that you will probably date her”. And in the song it also talks about how the two people both cheated on each other.😂
Maybe Taylor just falls out of love with Joe (or the other way around). It is possible even after so many years of being together. Not necessarily someone cheated or whatsoever
it has been six months...and the only one of the two of them that has been with someone new was Swift. Meanwhile Joe couldn't care less. Swift and her friends have the mentality of high school students.
What if that relationship served its purpose. Giving her a chance at respite and recovery from some tough times. She gave us GREAT music with him but she is a star and he is not looking to be known as Mr. Taylor Swift. 🤷🏻♀️
Why do you'all coming after Joe he is a good guy same as Taylor and stop spreading rumors is so annoying Am a swifty but Taylor relationships Joe's one has best the best so after,who eill write a song with his girlfriend and support her by attending dhows, concerts with her etc
y’all need to stop. their split was very amicable and there’s no need to be stirring up drama especially when said drama doesn’t exist. don’t be toxic and let them both move on ❤
No. I REFUSE to be believe someone as kind as Joe would ever cheat on Taylor. If you attack any of Taylor’s exes or even Scooter and send them death threats then you don’t deserve to be a Swiftie. Joe didn’t want to get married Taylor did, that’s reasonable reason to break up. Joe and Taylor loved each other and even co-wrote songs. Taylor and Joe both had their faults, Taylor might have emotionally cheated on Joe and Joe might not have wanted to progress a relationship but it’s people like these toxic swifties that make the rest of us seem toxic and annoying and if anything just make Taylor a more hated person, so please guys
"all evidence" and gives us nothing
Yep I hate clickbait. After this comment this fella will be placed on irrelevant so I don't see shit from him anymore.
This is part one
Those green scooters are at every corner😂😂😂😂😂
@@Delicate_swift so all evidence is only in pt 2 then? Even more a case of clickbaiting people. Now we gotta sit through another video to get any actual information? Hard pass!
@QTCutes idk if it's all in part 2
Some Swifties are very toxic, and that is you. Taylor has ended relationships that had no problems before. Stop spreading rumors that literally have no basis.
Pretty good circumstantial evidence though, and pretty naive of you to think a break up happens when there's no problems. Even amicable endings are due to some kind of something that wasn't working. Oh well, she's stronger than ever, has amazing people around her, she will be fine dear.
@@vcheekv there is no circumstancial evidence of Joe cheating. It is completely baseless, and I will agree with you that breakups do not happen with nothing behind it because Swift is the one with a new guy so soon, so I will take that clear evidence.
Shut up. Get off your golden couch: There was obviously some type of BIG problem bc Taylor thought that was her forever person and then it ended abruptly. Any real Swiftie knows Taylor is the most loyal human ever. And hopelessly romantic and optimistic. Joe did SOMETHING
@@Thisissarah815 stop defending her on every single topic
i feel like there should be speculation, you don't just break up with your boyfriend of six years for no reason. he honestly probably cheated.
Im happy for these sane comments from rational swifties.
shorts comment section about taylor vs tiktok ones are so different. that’s why i prefer taylor content on here because people actually have a scrap of common sense
@@zoegisellejust another reason why I'm glad I never jumped on Tiktok
I think that's also because Tay cheated on 3 of her boyfriends from what I know?(Harry, Calvis and Joe).
I could be wrong so don't take my random comment as a fact haha
Please listen to her new album. Joe did not cheat, their relationship ran its course, they're incompatible, she was bored. She also has been the one pining for Matty Healy while still with Joe.
wait I thought forntight was ab joe
@@usagibun7639 no only so long london and how did it end. The rest is about Matty, her loml.
@@melyorlido4986 that.. can't be right lmao I must've listened to a different album
@@usagibun7639it’s actually true lol
they both cheated
I find it wild that people are using the scooters as "evidence" those damn lime scooter are literally EVERYWHERE in Europe. EVERYWHERE!
For real
“I’ve never heard of the movie, which explains his financial problems” yea sorry to tell you tho you’re not the center of the world, not bcz you haven’t heard of it means it’s doing poorly , and Joe probably has more money than you will ever have anyway
why you so pissed it s not that deep
@@moonzo13 Why is the poster of this video mad? The commentor doesn't seem mad, just showing him the same treatment he is giving Joe Alwyn.
Probably? Nah he’s def doing better than the comment section combined 😂😂
Especially considering the fact that he has to click bait and name drop Joe to try to make a buck 🤣
Joe just said in a press release that he makes most of his money (lifetimes worth) from the four songs he collabed on with Taylor hahahaha
You should be ashamed of yourself by putting 2 innocent people in a bad light. Such a poor act for engagement
Exactly! This fool tried to ruin Joe for no reason! He was innocent the whole time. 😩
I am a big Swiftie, but if the fandom keeps antagonizing Joe, that gives me more of a reason to support Joe (unless he is proven to be guilty). I think most of the people trashing on Joe never liked him, but kept quiet since they like Taylor. Like, this man literally loved her at her worst. I think Joe and Taylor need space. And just because he is filming with Emma doesn’t mean he’s dating her. I mean, there’s a lot of couples in tv, but they actors aren’t always dating. How often do you see that?
Also, what would be the fandom’s reaction if it turns out Taylor really “did something bad”? This gives me a reason to like Joe more and to annoy the toxic Swifties.
They say I did something bad, but why’s it feel so good? 😂😂😂😂
THISSSS!!!!! YOU SAID EVERYTHING I THOUGHT
@@abbied I didnt know how else to say it, so I had to put quotes lol
@@miadoesmanythings No you’re fine, I was just quoting lyrics/the lyrics from Taylor Swift’s song “I Did Something Bad” there lolol 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻😂😂😂😂
@@abbied yeah, besides it makes this comment even better lol. And it proves that I’m a real swiftie. The joe haters probably don’t even know abt this song.
After The Tortured Poets Department this comment section aged like fine wine💀
To ever accuse that sweet boy was insane to begin with. And to think Taylor wanted Matty the whole time. BUT you can't help who you fall in love with. I wish them both the best.
I think I will always remember being labeled a "Joe Defender" and told I'm the worst kind of person.
@@Inksplatter1991 omygod finally! I saw someone said this. Taylor is cheating emotionally and she admit that in the album👀
@@avoelle2605 I think we should have already accepted that Taylor isn't great at fidelity. Not that she can't do it, but she's obviously been unsuccessful at least a couple times before TTPD. We should have come to terms with that and probably felt really off accusing anybody of cheating on her when a relationship ended.
@@avoelle2605what song did it show her emotionally cheating
I think Emma posted a reel of several photos of her and cast members from the film, and Joe was just in _one_ of the photos. The "Moments in March" included several photos, and Joe was only in one.
But why did she change the date? It wasn't taken in March
@@Stormy_Cloud Maybe "Moments in March" sounds better haha
All these basic ass videos trying to villainize joe with absolutely no evidence just proof that he hung out with his costars on set like most actors do are so annoying. Like just stop. Leave Joe alone.
Evidence??? What an Actor hanging out with cast members while filming???? How does this prove anything, people need to leave poor Joe alone.
Idc about you all. You call yourself swifties and all you do is make her exes villians. I love her and I am a huge fan of her but Idk about what's going on with her life, and I'm fine with it. It's ok if you like to know everything about her and all, but maybe she is not always the victim in relationships. What if she stopped loving joe? Maybe she is the reason of breakup. Maybe joe's the victim. So stop caring about her love life. It's none of our business. If you love her just listen her songs and keep up with updates. Don't judge her or her exes
I agree. Also, if you listen to the song “you’re losing me” it seems like she and Joe just kind of fell out of love, I don’t think it was this dramatic.
@@welldamnjackie1320 wish the rest of the so-called "fans" thought this way, but oh no, it's ALL joe's fault to them. honestly, i mostly feel bad for joe in this situation and not taylor.
@@elliesrubieskpop I know lol some swifties are so ridiculous. The reason her and Joe broke up is none of their business yet they feel entitled to know every detail of what happened.
@@elliesrubieskpopsadly that cult will do anything to protect mOthEr, even if (touch wood) she did the most horrid thing anyone could do (eg. m*rd*r), listen to me when I say they will find anything and i mean ANYTHING to defend taylor with. I love taylor, her songs are great, but toxic swifties, no, not today, not ever, if using "SLAYYY❤️❤️🥰😍" is their only way to win an argument. What's worse is that if Taylor says just the tiniest bad thing about her fanbase, its gonna be the doja drama and her reputation era all over again.
Oh my god so true.
I hope he sues you for defamation
Didn’t work for the MAYOnaisse and it won’t for any heirloom turkeys. 😂
@@Scorpio13-59 damn y'all are very hateful. Who hurt you
Honestly all the evidence on her album points to Taylor emotionally cheating on Joe with Matty Healy. She even wrote guilty as sin. Stop attacking the poor loyal handsome man who’s already depressed and lost someone he truly loved to a middle aged fuck boy bad-boy-band member. Smh
That’s not true. Taylor didn’t cheat. What even is emotional cheating? That’s not a real thing
@@kris.strelchenkoemotional affairs are absolutely real. Therapist here. Can confirm. It’s the act of giving the emotional energy that you’d give your partner to someone else. It’s real enough to even be indicated to in laws regarding divorce if a person can prove that third party alienated them from their spouse.
I’m not saying she did. That would be a crazy amount of speculation, but I can’t help but state that emotional affairs are real.
Of course ppl are going to speculate given that there’s “Easter eggs” TS plants throughout her lyrics for exactly this purpose
@@Irishgirl82 wow I didn’t know that! Thanks for the info
@@kris.strelchenko You cannot be real💀
@@kris.strelchenkoyou didnt know? Yikes
Let's all admit it it wasn't joe's fault she just wanted matty the whole time but she also wanted to get married where joe wasn't so she left him🤷🏻♀️
Joe was depressed and Taylor didn’t want to support him, but when Taylor was depressed he supported the fuck out of her, I’m a swiftie but that’s pure narcissism
Oh honey you’re making baseless rumors, you’re so toxic.
This feels so cruel, misogynistic, unnecessary, and it shows you don't see Taylor as a person to respect
Why do some swifties like making her ex a villan? Where is the concrete proof? After all the relationship she has went through, she couldn't keep any of the relationship and she has a tendency of victimizing herself(except Taylor Lautner). Her songs are one sided after all and the listeners judge everything based on the information from her lyrics, so it's unfair for her exes. She could have been wrong.
Only Joe & Lautner were the right ones. Rest deserved it lol
@@nishthagupta1357 Oh come on, when Taylor was with Tom, she was already in love with Joe and it was her who ended relationship with Tom. Tom seems like a nice person. Too bad it was just a rebound relationship. And you still say they deserve it? Don't make judgements or asuumptions when you know nothing about what happened between them.
You smell like one of these simple haters(aggressive Swifties).
@@nishthagupta1357 how do you know where you in the relationship with them smh.
@@mikan0mochi Tom wasn't s relationship. He was a getaway car. A rebound
@@mikan0mochi she spills all the tea in her songs to make it absolute obvious. Dont tell me. All the Swiftie know the relationship through that lol
Helpppp 😭😭those lime scooters are very popular in UK (harry has been also seen with the same scooters, it's kinda a pr ig) wtf does this prove???💀
I don't think I will believe any of these rumors until Taylor's next song
If he cheated on her then the tea would be served in the song
But I still don't think he cheated well for now
Same
Samee
Sameee
Come on Swifties, we are better than that. Let’s not put others down. Also, her personal life is non of our business. She went to great lengths, to keep her personal as private as possible. She wants us to talk about her amazing music and not gossip sh*t about her boyfriend (maybe ex-boyfriend. But who cares?).
@Jonathan La'Fey, Damn, really tho? 🙀😂
Yeah it's her private life but sometimes some swifties really research. And they do their own rumours or sometimes it's even true.
Eyes like a husky is wiiiiild 😂
this boy is just another toxic fan of taylor making an assumption without any clear evidence bruuhh
Yeah… I’m a Swiftie and this is giving pathetic. Toxic and dramatic.
Taylor seems so ok that i think she basically got tired of having this private life and wanted a slay era, which is hard when you have to be the most private public celebrity ever for your boyfriend...
When you look at midnights, a lot of songs like bejeweled, maroon, midnight rain could all really be about joe
IKR
Vinyl we were cleaning incense how the hell did we lose sight of us again?
IKR
That's very true. Lyric said 'He want commitment, she want name'. So i guess she still want to work, and do not settle for marriage. I also think, it might be because Joe doesn't like fame, so Taylor want to protect that relationship, so she kept it from public for 6years. Afterall, I do hope Joe get a good girl. He seem super nice.
I mean she herself said THEY made the choice to go private. Not that she did it for him. People need to stop blaming joe for Taylor’s choices. We’re all about how Taylor is a girl boss feminist until it comes to joe then suddenly she bet to his will and kept her locked in the basement.
He was too depressed to marry her and She got bored. So, she found her thrill in Matty Healy. And then, they broke up. He moved out of their Heathens House in London and she started dating Matty.
I don't think he cheated, I just think he never made the next step (proposing)
man as a person who follows joe with all her heart:
1. he usually follows his co stars (the ones he's close with) and he doesn't even follow her!
2. Emma Laird has a a rep for being a clout chaser.
3. HE DOESN'T HAVE FINANCIAL PROBLEMS! HE EARNS A MIL EACH YEAR SO SEEMS LIKE ANYONE WITH A FINANCIAL PROBLEM IS... you
I STAN U SO HARD
Taylor cheated on joe. Go listen to her midnight album and then make shorts. Please don’t just assume. “High infidelity”
“Do you really wanna know where I was April 29th?”
“Broke his heart cause he was nice”
“He wanted it comfortable I wanted that pain. He stayed the same. All of me changed like midnight rain.”
“He wanted a bride I was making my own name. Chasing that fame all of me changed like midnight rain”
That wasn’t about Joe alwyn. That was about Calvin Harris, when she danced with Tom at the met gala, and they broke up right after.
His net worth is around 4-5 million. I think he's doing just fine. Lol
Fr I see all these “Swifties” saying Taylor called him out for “being poor” but he’s actually super rich
It’s 8 million - and yes he cheated.
@@petersoto2308 No, he did not cheat
@@petersoto2308 proof that he cheated?
Making fun of a man's financial situation is so not the win you think it is
If Joe cheated her. She would scream it. Literally. She has no limits. So, he didn't.
Nope. She left him for Matty. Which I knew that so the 'Joe cheated' narrative never made sense. 😊
That no Scooters 🛴 joke hit me a lil too hard 😂😂😂
Bro, swifties shouldn’t be taking sides without proof. Joe loved Taylor for 6-7 years!! Joe loved Taylor. Also, we should be taking Joe and Taylor’s side.
Because these scooters are only available in January 🙄 couldn’t possibly be that two coworkers hang out platonically
I'm a swiftie, but I hate speculations like this, Joe and Tay had kept their relationship very private, and so the full reason of their break up although their side said that the relationship "Just run its course", - Let's just be happy for them, our Idols are humans too and they are not perfect. Overall, I love Taylor Swift for her Music, Her Personality, Her Cleverness, Her being a strong independent woman fighting for Women Rights. There's always so much in the box than we know.
Seriously why can't people realize that they know nothing about this celebrities and spreading rumors on assumptions is silly to say the least.
Taylor and joe may or may not have broken up,no matter what it is,it is none of our business. We will keep supporting them
The husky joke got me on the floor 💀💀💀
“Their ancestors probably ran in the same pack”…. You need to be stopped 😂
I hope y'all feel great cause now we know that the worst thing Joe did was be depressed and not marry her.. While she borderline cheated with Matty who is the muse for 75% of the TTPD songs
It's a great day to be a Joe fan. 👏
👏!
What evidence is there when she wants Joe?
Doesn't Joe know, SCOOTERS ARE NOT ALLOWED? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
My heart goes out to all the swifties who don't act like Regina from mean girls 24/7 and just act normal❤️❤️❤️, Im just so sorry yall got twinkles like this in ur fanbase and making yall look bad.
Taylor Relationship Always Trouble, And Her fans Always defending him and blaming his partner Even She has 10+ ex, It's weird that it's all his ex fault, Joe said he Seeing Taylor holding hands at the restaurant alone with Matt.
Where you read this?
First of all, it’s “The Brutalist” and it’s just getting done being filmed. It’s an indie film with Adrian Brody, Guy Pearce and Felicity Jones. Yeah it must not be “making any waves” because YOU’VE never heard of it. What a crock this video is.
Not the same shade of green in scooters
The first scooters are lime
The second one with Joe is green bean
They are all actually the same colour, those are lime scooters. They are these scooters that you can rent everywhere in Europe, they are all painted the same stupid lime colour. The fact that these are lime scooters makes them so irrelevant in this whole drama because they are literally EVERYWHERE in Europe. You could go out to 14 different places on 14 different nights and always have one of these things in a photo. So even tho they are the same colour, there is a very high chance that they are not the same scooters.
It doesn’t look like England either. The red line on the pavement is something I’ve never come across here.
I think Taylor has too high of standards going after the interesting guys who are bound to hurt you and she cant try being with an actual genuine guy for a change who actually truly sees her and loves her. Its really sad because shes gorgeous and she really deserves someone who looks after her. But she has to find the one who will actually do that
I think having high standards is understandable when she brings so much to the table tho and she’s a celebrity so the dating world is tough out there.
Some girls are bound to be attracted to bad boys (me too) and sometimes it's hard to give up that habit. For these girls, 'good guys' can be just too boring...
so high standards that now she dates a racist, anti semitic, misogynist 😍
toxic fan making noises.
yeah, with Taylor swift history, all the boys cheated on her. 😂
if that is the case, perhaps the problem is Taylor...something I've said all along.
In all fairness, those scooters are EVERYWHERE in London
Lime scooters are literally everywhere 💀
Why was the husky eyes thing so funny to me like the same genre of human is wild 💀
I thought SHE cheated on him with that guy Matty 😂😂
that’s what i suspected too, we don’t know them irl so i didn’t jump to conclusions but i wouldn’t be surprised based on some of her lyrics on midnights
It wouldn't be the first time.
No that was after they broke up, the news’s of their break up got out late
Finally someone who has had brains to figure that out. Thank you so much for writing this comment.
The fact that you swifties bashing on the guy that gave Taylor the support she needed for years and helped her overcome her problems shows the type of a crowd you are, I’m a swiftie myself and the way you swifties act is so uncalled for, doing what you do best and bashing on her exes, seriously, leave Joe alone, not even one of her most supportive exes (if not the most supportive) is safe from your craziness says it all, swifties are going wild because after the break up, Taylor and all her friends unfollowed Joe, tell me now, how many of you keep following their exes after a break up? And the others who unfollowed Joe are Taylor’s friends not his so I don’t understand why is it such a big deal, ever thought that it might be because the break up was hard for her and she didn’t want anything reminding her with no hard feelings involved? I love Taylor so much but she can’t be the victim in all her relationships, what if Joe was the victim and she hurt him? Who knows? Not every relationship has to end up with the two hating each other, not every break up is somebody’s fault, Neither Taylor nor Joe said a word about what happened so I believe the rest of us should just shut up, you say you’re her fans but being a fan isn’t only listening to your faves’ songs or watching their TV shows/ movies, a good fan doesn’t bash on everyone that was in their fave’s life at some point, a good fan holds their fave accountable and not victimise them in all situations, a good fan supports what makes their fave happy and care about their happiness without thinking they have a say in it, like dating, for example, okay some couples look cute but didn’t work out, okay just because a couple looks cute together doesn’t mean they’re destined to be together for the rest of their lives but some “fans” don’t understand that, they’re like “awwww cute couple, please be back together” well, guess what? They’re not each other’s happiness, stuff like that happen even to non- celebrities or when they ask for the old versions of their fave because “they miss them” celebrities are allowed to be whoever they want and if you’re a fan as you say you are, you love them no matter who they choose to be so if you’re not any of that then you’re just a so called fan
Joe so proud of you you got out from a narcissist egoistic person. You made the right thing
Is he purposefully mispronouncing Laird? 😳
We are rarely hearing from the men side. Its always Taylor side. Some of Her exs are married already so basically they are ready to be committed. So if the taylor is the one who remain single up to now, you can conclude it by your self.
This guy is just toxic, she dated Joe for 6 years, it was committed, and according to you’re losing me, she was rejected in marriage. This is all fake.
GUYS THAT LAST POST WAS APRIL 19, 2023 AND TTPD IS APRIL 19 2024!!!!!😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
“same genre of human” 💀
Oh no two co stars hanging out after work
So Taylor Swift just came out with 2 albums where...uh...Joe didn't cheat. Hope you enjoyed it!
Joe never cheated pls lmao, if he cheated they would’ve dropped that in the PR split articles and not, “Taylor wants to be friends with him” (which they no longer are.)
You don’t know that.
@@piedpiper5886 I do because she would’ve shared through her publicist on the actual split.
Forget the subject...this narrator is f'n entertaining AF
This guys is in the part of the fandom i'm not proud of 😢😢
Shiiiiiit she released the album of Tortured Poets Appartement today April's 18th!!!!! OMGgg😮
lol. The two pics of scooters are in different countries. One in the US and one in London.
Let's blame Joe shall we!!!!!. Taylor wanted a quiet relationship away from the public eye. He didn't want the intrusion. Now she wants to date a man who is dubious and a party loving ,crazy bloke. She used Joe at a time when she needed him. He even wrote songs under a different name. I think she loves the fame and her career. I hope he meets a nice girl who won't write immature songs about their relationship.
I speak about this like in every time people said toxic thing about Taylor's exes. Like, come on people! Taylor not so innocent. She also cheated on people before. And not every Taylor's exes is bad too. Joe seem so nice. He really is.
@@farahidayu8876 Yeah! I LOVE Taylor, but that doesn’t mean that she hasn’t done anything bad (*cough cough*, the song *cough*). Like, Taylor L is amazing and Harry is pretty good, Tom as well. I feel bad for Joe and I hope he and Taylor both heal and are doing well.
@@miadoesmanythings Harry Styles? 😂
@@miadoesmanythings Didn’t he cheat on Taylor with Candle Jenga tho or sth? Lolllllll 😂😂😂😂
@@abbied oh my gosh, I did not realize. I included Harry bc I knew I’d probably get replies saying to include Harry. I didn’t know, and thank you for informing me.
Joe never cheated!
Why are so toxic, patty?
Rid'n their scoo'ers around London 😂😂😂😂😂😂
we only hear one side
Oh if he cheated taylor would've told you through her songs in tortured poets
She would've talked bad about his in ttpd but she didn't....
She did in the black dog and the smallest man who ever lived
@@piper-hi8rn smallest man is about matty and black dog doesn't mention cheating
@@kanak4198 Oh sorry! I kinda thought it was because of the lyric that says “When someone plays the starting line and you jump up but she’s to young to know this song”
@@piper-hi8rn but from the first line of black dog you can tell they were broken up and then he's probably moving on faster than her
Joe isnt like that... Lets be nice to him my fellow swifties... He been with our tay during hardtimes..... Lets be grateful about that
Another nasty, mean spirited swifty
No he ain’t a swiftie he’s just a toxic person trying to fit in
Leave him alone. He just wants a quiet life.
I'm glad ppl in the comment section have common sense
"ive never heard of it, must not be making any wave" yep i knew from this line that this video would be the least reliable source of informatiom
OMG, it's not like they're married or something... people break up everytime so chill you swiftie...
and beside, it was Taylor who appeared in public kissing someone else days after their breakup rumour spread 😅
April 18th: TTPD came out!
Also, please don’t hate on Joe he loved her when everybody thought she was a liar and a snake their relationship ran its course and nobody needs to stay in the past.😊
Evidence not valid. Court dismissed 👨🏼⚖️
None of what is in this video is true but I just thought it was funny that the lyrics from “Is it over now” say “your knew girl is my clone”, and “if she has blue eyes I will surmise that you will probably date her”. And in the song it also talks about how the two people both cheated on each other.😂
Maybe Taylor just falls out of love with Joe (or the other way around). It is possible even after so many years of being together. Not necessarily someone cheated or whatsoever
Something must've gone down bad if all her friends unfollowed Joe. It wasn't just "we broke up, but are still friends."
it has been six months...and the only one of the two of them that has been with someone new was Swift. Meanwhile Joe couldn't care less. Swift and her friends have the mentality of high school students.
What if that relationship served its purpose. Giving her a chance at respite and recovery from some tough times. She gave us GREAT music with him but she is a star and he is not looking to be known as Mr. Taylor Swift. 🤷🏻♀️
No scooters allowed 💀😂😂☕️
The husky theory😭😂😂😂 love this
taylor cheated
Nah I believe that he loved her but was scared of her fame
Why do you'all coming after Joe he is a good guy same as Taylor and stop spreading rumors is so annoying Am a swifty but Taylor relationships Joe's one has best the best so after,who eill write a song with his girlfriend and support her by attending dhows, concerts with her etc
“That could explain his financial issues” is crazy
Genre of human 😂😂😂😂
I AM CRYING at the pronunciation!!!! I feel like it should sound like "layered" not LARD 😂😂😂😂
I didn't like Joe Alwyn and think Travis is much better, but I don't think he cheated Taylor.
“Same genre of human” 💀💀💀
y’all need to stop. their split was very amicable and there’s no need to be stirring up drama especially when said drama doesn’t exist. don’t be toxic and let them both move on ❤
yall r crazy
leave him alone , the love die and they both moved on , it happens all the time , she’s Happy with Travis , that’s all that it matters ….
She would've talked bad about his in ttpd but she didn't....
“Their ancestors probably ran in the same pack” lmaooooo
No. I REFUSE to be believe someone as kind as Joe would ever cheat on Taylor. If you attack any of Taylor’s exes or even Scooter and send them death threats then you don’t deserve to be a Swiftie. Joe didn’t want to get married Taylor did, that’s reasonable reason to break up. Joe and Taylor loved each other and even co-wrote songs.
Taylor and Joe both had their faults, Taylor might have emotionally cheated on Joe and Joe might not have wanted to progress a relationship but it’s people like these toxic swifties that make the rest of us seem toxic and annoying and if anything just make Taylor a more hated person, so please guys
please give them the privacy and respect they deserve. they’re just people like u and me.