I can always remember saying good bye to my aunt at Newport station in south wales. As the HST accelerated away and the click, clump of the carriages and then the rear power car, screaming as it whizzed passed us on the platform, then to deaccelerate, only for the driver to give it the beans again, was awesome when you're a 8 year old boy.
Such a very passionate interview between Ely and Ruddington, thanks Steve, I would love to have feedback of the success of this precious unit! I so wish that Paxman Valenta engines have been saved somewhere though🙏
I think it would be great seeing a preserved intercity125 locomotive next to some preserved steam locomotives in a yard getting prepped to take enthusiast trains
I grew up near the midland mainline between Leicester and Loughborough. I can still hear the scream of the valenta engines from the 1980s and 90s from when I was a kid playing in my grandparents garden which was near the line.
Great video 🤔 XC HST’s are still passed to run at 125mph between Colton Junction and York and between York and Darlington. When Cross-Country used to pool all Western Region power cars in the mid to late 1980’s, 43025 along with any other WR allocated power car could often turn up on Cross-Country services between the South West/South Wales, the Midlands and the North East/North West as well as its Western Region duties 🙂🇬🇧 I’ve travelled in the mid 1980’s on 43010, 43011 (now gone 😥) 43016, 43017, 43020, 43021, 43034 and 43037 of the original batch all on Cross-Country workings 😎👍🏽
That is an awesome video of moving a locomotive being moved from one location to it's new home. That move was done safely. I live in florida in the USA and we move big items here that require planning and routing for heavy things being moved
These were a daily staple on my commute from Bath to Bristol (and Weston-Super-Mare on some occasions). Remember watching these scream by at full power as a child in Sydney Gardens in Bath. When FGW re-furbished these with the MTU power unit, I can't help thinking this is harking back to the days of the Maybach powered Westerns that plied these routes before the HSTs took over! Good Luck with this one, it will be lovely to see this one back to her best! You can still ride a HST here in the West Country down in Devon, as GWR created the 6-Car set "Castle" class, but you need to be quick as even these are being retired over the next 18 months.
FYI - You can fly drones unless their is a flight restriction zone above the property. It being private property doesn't allow them to control the air above it. Its a common misconception that it does.
@@TrainRealWorld Network Rail don't control airspace but require permission for large or commercial drone flights. The CAA, who do control airspace, say that, for sub 250 gm drones, you can fly over; Commercial sites including: shopping centres warehouses business parks Industrial sites including: factories docks rail and transport hubs (but not airports or other flight hubs) It's unfortunate that many people, including the police, do not know the rules and think they can stop flights over "their property" - unfortunately they do not own or control the airspace. There are many RUclips videos around railways and I linked to obe in another comment.
@@barrieshepherd7694 "Require" is a lie, they don't have a claim over the airspace, realistically the most they can do is ask you to politely tell them. Only in some classes of drone (heavier) are you actually required to get structure owner permission to fly over it, that's the CAA's blanket rules and not NR's rules.
I rode on a Great Northern Express from Edinburgh Waverley to London, King’s Cross. It was a lovely, smooth ride which took less than it would have done on another locomotive!!
(Just come across this video) We have some ex Western region Hst,s here in Scotland that Scotrail got that currently run as Inter7city from Edinburgh & Glasgow to Inverness & Aberdeen
I grew up with the HST's. Personally I would love to see 43025 painted into the original BR Blue/Grey livery. I am glad this one is saved! Great video mate and I have liked and subbed. Speaking of trains. from this month. I will be reviewing older Hornby retro train sets from the 1980's and 1990's. Starting with one from 1996. Peter.
Very interesting video. I live in Nottingham, so seeing 43025 being taken along roads I use every day was great! Just a correction, where you were talking about the right turn at 35min 22seconds, that route is the only way to go from the A453 towards Ruddington. If they had taken the slip road towards QMC, they would have been going in exactly the opposite direction! You needed to take the A52 towards Grantham to get to the A60 into Ruddington. I look foward to visiting the Ruddington location and seeing 43025 once it's been cleaned and prepared for running! Thanks for a great video. Jonathan.
I think I was mentioning that because of the weight of the load, there were certain places it could and couldn't go to, and one was that it couldn't go on the slip road there up to QMC and couldn't go on the QMC roundabout either. It was a very tight turn to get on there though, but fun to watch. Hopefully they will start her soon, and fingers crossed I will be there too.
the valenta scream was great but the only problem was the smell of brake blocks when slowing down. Well done saving another one. coming to the transport rally at ruddington soon so will be able to see your efforts.
I remember the scream of the Paxman Valenta, because I regularly travelled between London and Plymouth between 1974 and 2015. But I also remember the large bowsers of coolant located at principal stations. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the leaking head casket problem was traced to drivers swiping the controller between off and notch five.
I rode in the guard van from London Paddington to Swansea on one of those units ...the sound is simply sik PHAT RUDE!!! ...the train that sounds a bit like a plane... - only recently noticed that THEY don't actually TILT!!! ...the track is very tilty instead...
Great video, with the new class 777 slowly coming into use with merseyrail I would imagine that the old class 507 -508s will end up at Ely as I think they are owned by Angel trains .
You may be correct, but given that Simms at Newport have had all the previous 507/508 stock, then I think all of them will ultimately end their days there. BREL York built great units, as can be seen in their longevity.
You can fly a drone over a public place if it's below 250g and you're flying from a public place. Private businesses don't own the airspace above their premises.
Using a GPS speedo on my phone i see 125 to 127mph most days on the Reading to Paddington 0735 train. Occasionally i get on the slow train with the new rolling stock and they still do 113mph which is impressive. Very smooth too.
Hi, interesting video. With regards to the trailer steering, the escort driver in the van usually has a wireless remote to allow steering in tight spaces but out on the highway the trailer steering follows the angle of the fifth wheel coupling (the bit that attaches it to the tractor unit).
You missed out, hearing Valentas screaming out of Donnie absolute bliss. "virgin trains back in the day" quote made me laugh. 😂😂😂 handful of years ago nothing.
@@TrainRealWorld Network rail's claim over the airspace above railways was disproven already in a FOI request when someone challenged them to show the law that applies to it and they came back with nothing. There is very few rules for a
I hated them in the beginning as they replaced loco hauled trains but over the years I got too like them lol 😆 VP engines were good at the beginning 😂 Good luck with this project matey as it’s another classic engine saved 👍🏻
It’s nice to see the history of British railways, but at the end of the day, it’s about eco side of things, and safety and changes happen. I just wish the new train seats were comfier nowadays
Virgin definitely went down there with the 47 but I remember seeing a HST as my aunty literally lived next to the bridge, and the back garden was next to it (down the verge) and I distinctly heard the HST (PC either end) but maybe once or twice.
@@TrainRealWorld I'm guessing it was a test train. Maybe the network rail one? Maybe a "special". In the 12+ years I signalled around there, I never once saw an HST. They did send some mk3's around East Kent once and the ends of the coaches were a bit scraped up from some of the curved, tighter platforms 😂
Hi Mega are you going to the Midland Railway for the HST opening Day on the 1st of July. They are running 43048 in EMT livery and 43159 in the old midland mainline livery.
Paxman are long gone so limited parts. 125 group are restoring 1 to Paxman with a LOT of changes, but 025 will stay as MTU where parts are still readily available 😊
Hello New Zealand!! Yes it will be restored to full running order and going up and down the mainline on heritage trips 😊 sounds like things so far have gone well
Do you know how much the 125 Trust paid for this power unit? I know transporting them is expensive but it makes me wonder how cost viable these units are for heritage lines?
As a Bath based Train user. All the First Great Western Class 43's were refurbished with the V16 MTU lump and the new Front during the 2000/10's so you won't find a FGW HST with a Paxman lump in it!
I can always remember saying good bye to my aunt at Newport station in south wales. As the HST accelerated away and the click, clump of the carriages and then the rear power car, screaming as it whizzed passed us on the platform, then to deaccelerate, only for the driver to give it the beans again, was awesome when you're a 8 year old boy.
These were beautiful trains to ride on, so smooth, quiet and fast as a passenger.
Definitely!
Far better ride quality than the ubiquitous Siemens used on most long distance routes nowadays.
Such a very passionate interview between Ely and Ruddington, thanks Steve, I would love to have feedback of the success of this precious unit!
I so wish that Paxman Valenta engines have been saved somewhere though🙏
I think it would be great seeing a preserved intercity125 locomotive next to some preserved steam locomotives in a yard getting prepped to take enthusiast trains
I grew up near the midland mainline between Leicester and Loughborough. I can still hear the scream of the valenta engines from the 1980s and 90s from when I was a kid playing in my grandparents garden which was near the line.
I loved these trains going through Leicester, these are favourite trains
They will be missed!!
That loud sounding truck. Was featured in a trucker tim video recently. A point of view inside it. Sounds sweet
Great video 🤔 XC HST’s are still passed to run at 125mph between Colton Junction and York and between York and Darlington. When Cross-Country used to pool all Western Region power cars in the mid to late 1980’s, 43025 along with any other WR allocated power car could often turn up on Cross-Country services between the South West/South Wales, the Midlands and the North East/North West as well as its Western Region duties 🙂🇬🇧 I’ve travelled in the mid 1980’s on 43010, 43011 (now gone 😥) 43016, 43017, 43020, 43021, 43034 and 43037 of the original batch all on Cross-Country workings 😎👍🏽
That is an awesome video of moving a locomotive being moved from one location to it's new home. That move was done safely. I live in florida in the USA and we move big items here that require planning and routing for heavy things being moved
06:30 I’m lucky to be near Loughborough,I’ve been quite a few times!
25:44 Aaa, a Swedish Scania V8 with straight pipes saying hello :) Cool video! :)
It sounded AMAZING
Great Doco awesome i possibly travelled on that set as i worked all over the uk ... lol
Around 27:13: 1980s: “when was the last time you had a business trip and your train had to stop for breakfast?”
2023:
Lololololo
This train is now preserved by 125 group
These were a daily staple on my commute from Bath to Bristol (and Weston-Super-Mare on some occasions). Remember watching these scream by at full power as a child in Sydney Gardens in Bath. When FGW re-furbished these with the MTU power unit, I can't help thinking this is harking back to the days of the Maybach powered Westerns that plied these routes before the HSTs took over! Good Luck with this one, it will be lovely to see this one back to her best! You can still ride a HST here in the West Country down in Devon, as GWR created the 6-Car set "Castle" class, but you need to be quick as even these are being retired over the next 18 months.
FYI - You can fly drones unless their is a flight restriction zone above the property. It being private property doesn't allow them to control the air above it. Its a common misconception that it does.
Sun 249 gm drones that is
Is it kind of connected to network rail where there is a restriction?
@@TrainRealWorld Network Rail don't control airspace but require permission for large or commercial drone flights. The CAA, who do control airspace, say that, for sub 250 gm drones, you can fly over;
Commercial sites including:
shopping centres
warehouses
business parks
Industrial sites including:
factories
docks
rail and transport hubs (but not airports or other flight hubs)
It's unfortunate that many people, including the police, do not know the rules and think they can stop flights over "their property" - unfortunately they do not own or control the airspace.
There are many RUclips videos around railways and I linked to obe in another comment.
@@barrieshepherd7694 "Require" is a lie, they don't have a claim over the airspace, realistically the most they can do is ask you to politely tell them. Only in some classes of drone (heavier) are you actually required to get structure owner permission to fly over it, that's the CAA's blanket rules and not NR's rules.
@@AndrewStrydomBRP I think that is what I said.
I rode on a Great Northern Express from Edinburgh Waverley to London, King’s Cross. It was a lovely, smooth ride which took less than it would have done on another locomotive!!
(Just come across this video) We have some ex Western region Hst,s here in Scotland that Scotrail got that currently run as Inter7city from Edinburgh & Glasgow to Inverness & Aberdeen
I grew up with the HST's. Personally I would love to see 43025 painted into the original BR Blue/Grey livery. I am glad this one is saved! Great video mate and I have liked and subbed. Speaking of trains. from this month. I will be reviewing older Hornby retro train sets from the 1980's and 1990's. Starting with one from 1996.
Peter.
Will have to wait and see what they’ve chosen for 025. Have you seen 159s newly painted livery?
@@TrainRealWorld Not yet but I will have a look at Flickr for it mate.
Great video squire & you have done this justice 👍👏
Thank you so much 😀
Very interesting video. I live in Nottingham, so seeing 43025 being taken along roads I use every day was great! Just a correction, where you were talking about the right turn at 35min 22seconds, that route is the only way to go from the A453 towards Ruddington. If they had taken the slip road towards QMC, they would have been going in exactly the opposite direction! You needed to take the A52 towards Grantham to get to the A60 into Ruddington.
I look foward to visiting the Ruddington location and seeing 43025 once it's been cleaned and prepared for running!
Thanks for a great video.
Jonathan.
I think I was mentioning that because of the weight of the load, there were certain places it could and couldn't go to, and one was that it couldn't go on the slip road there up to QMC and couldn't go on the QMC roundabout either. It was a very tight turn to get on there though, but fun to watch. Hopefully they will start her soon, and fingers crossed I will be there too.
she was a beautiful ride
Right I've Got To Break Into Ely Papworth Sidings Eventually And See Those HSTs There
ummmmmmm dont!
the valenta scream was great but the only problem was the smell of brake blocks when slowing down. Well done saving another one. coming to the transport rally at ruddington soon so will be able to see your efforts.
I remember the scream of the Paxman Valenta, because I regularly travelled between London and Plymouth between 1974 and 2015. But I also remember the large bowsers of coolant located at principal stations. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the leaking head casket problem was traced to drivers swiping the controller between off and notch five.
I rode in the guard van from London Paddington to Swansea on one of those units ...the sound is simply sik PHAT RUDE!!! ...the train that sounds a bit like a plane... - only recently noticed that THEY don't actually TILT!!! ...the track is very tilty instead...
Great video, with the new class 777 slowly coming into use with merseyrail I would imagine that the old class 507 -508s will end up at Ely as I think they are owned by Angel trains .
You may be correct, but given that Simms at Newport have had all the previous 507/508 stock, then I think all of them will ultimately end their days there.
BREL York built great units, as can be seen in their longevity.
Good commentary, more interesting than I expected.
You can fly a drone over a public place if it's below 250g and you're flying from a public place. Private businesses don't own the airspace above their premises.
Using a GPS speedo on my phone i see 125 to 127mph most days on the Reading to Paddington 0735 train. Occasionally i get on the slow train with the new rolling stock and they still do 113mph which is impressive. Very smooth too.
24:38 that most rear left set of tiers is really getting battered there. That is probably the one that got blown later on.
ooo yea great spot! that does look bad being dragged like that
Great video, thanks for sharing this with us
I think the term you trying to think of is, ‘Risk of Grounding.’Great video and we’ll presented. 👍😊
High Centred I believe is the term, also Bellied out, great Video
Thankyou! Really enjoyed the day
Hi, interesting video. With regards to the trailer steering, the escort driver in the van usually has a wireless remote to allow steering in tight spaces but out on the highway the trailer steering follows the angle of the fifth wheel coupling (the bit that attaches it to the tractor unit).
interesting to see the rear sets of tires scrubbing like that on sharper bends.
Good video ,remember seeing these on test from Derby going through Cudworth to Nevill Hill
Wow I would've LOVED to have seen that
well ahead off there times still look modern ,superb too ride on the mk3 s
Very far ahead, and still very much so. they will be missed!
Fantastic video, thank you so much.
Another great video from Les, you would think they would do something about them weeds
You missed out, hearing Valentas screaming out of Donnie absolute bliss. "virgin trains back in the day" quote made me laugh. 😂😂😂 handful of years ago nothing.
You can fly a drone over if your standing on public ground and there are no air restrictions.
I know there are restrictions over Network Rail track and thought this might be included in that
@@TrainRealWorld Network rail's claim over the airspace above railways was disproven already in a FOI request when someone challenged them to show the law that applies to it and they came back with nothing.
There is very few rules for a
Well done man
Thanks, really enjoyed the trip!
The article should be ‘an’ before HST.
I’m joining the 125 group
That rear wheel at 24:36 looks like it's having a hard time lol
Very much so!
125 fasted speed was 148.5 mph down to the west country
Great content
This train is scrap already? This train looks modern I used to see these trains at Leeds station all the time
I hated them in the beginning as they replaced loco hauled trains but over the years I got too like them lol 😆 VP engines were good at the beginning 😂 Good luck with this project matey as it’s another classic engine saved 👍🏻
It’s nice to see the history of British railways, but at the end of the day, it’s about eco side of things, and safety and changes happen. I just wish the new train seats were comfier nowadays
Great video and information. I do wonder what you heard at Ramsgate though as HSTs never ran down there. I'm an ex signalman from that area.
Virgin definitely went down there with the 47 but I remember seeing a HST as my aunty literally lived next to the bridge, and the back garden was next to it (down the verge) and I distinctly heard the HST (PC either end) but maybe once or twice.
@@TrainRealWorld I'm guessing it was a test train. Maybe the network rail one? Maybe a "special". In the 12+ years I signalled around there, I never once saw an HST. They did send some mk3's around East Kent once and the ends of the coaches were a bit scraped up from some of the curved, tighter platforms 😂
@@TrainRealWorld the viaduct next to the station? I was there when a train ran through the buffers and the bogie ended up on someone's garden!
So. How many HSTs are still in service, and what is going to happen to this one you rescued? Private collection? Museum or heritage railway?
Hi Mega are you going to the Midland Railway for the HST opening Day on the 1st of July. They are running 43048 in EMT livery and 43159 in the old midland mainline livery.
Tempted but busy on 1st… but hopefully I can try and go on 2nd but gotta see
@@TrainRealWorld ok I'm going on the 2nd too so it should be nice
I know this question is not about the HST but how many class 153s are in the background
Great video to see the power car being loaded. But I’m sorry I had to mute it. Too much talking for me.
Are you saving the rear driving car too?
the truck sounds like a like a loco at 26 mins lol 😆
It sounded AMAZING!! Possibly not legal mind you…
hi there, pity it has not got the Davy paxman engine in it, MTU make a ghastly sound in comparisson
Paxman are long gone so limited parts. 125 group are restoring 1 to Paxman with a LOT of changes, but 025 will stay as MTU where parts are still readily available 😊
Hello from New Zealand. This is cool. Will it be restored to running order? Thanks for the video.
Hello New Zealand!! Yes it will be restored to full running order and going up and down the mainline on heritage trips 😊 sounds like things so far have gone well
The reengining was relatively late in the life of the hst, was it worth it? To me HST equals the Valenta scream.
I think the life-span of the Valenta was coming to an end hence VP185 and MTU. I really hope the HST will continue through the years!
Shame it does not have its original power unit the MTU engines they have now are no screamers!
Do you know how much the 125 Trust paid for this power unit? I know transporting them is expensive but it makes me wonder how cost viable these units are for heritage lines?
Sorry I can’t mention that…
What’s wrong with the HST anyway? Why’s everyone removing them?
Would this have gone by rail to Ruddington if the new A60 bridge was open?
Sounds terrible but it’s cheaper to transport via road 😬 also there isn’t a link to Ruddington on the rails
I don’t think the track has been relaid on the new A60 bridge, so the link to the Midland mainline is still closed.
025 wouldn't have been fit for rail travel.
its a shame that these trains are going soon! they are gorgeous locos!
So...the truck runs in the UK, has a British registration and belongs to a British Company.
Why is it LHD?
Sometimes happens when its imported, or with the corners with mirrors etc, it sometimes needs to be LHD
Was bought second hand
you don't know filming laws dont give people advice ♥
How much does a train like this cost to buy?
I can't say the actual price 43025 was bought at, think of a couple of zeros and a k at the end
@@TrainRealWorld so a lottery win would be needed :( - damn childhood dream of learning to drive one
An HST
No such thing as a nice KFC
HAHA!!
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Some good drone footage of the storage at Papworth - ruclips.net/video/MJHB9VdeL0s/видео.html
It would’ve been in there back in December
Shame this one has the MTU lump in it.
I know its not the Valenta or VP185, but still a good engine to get it upto 125mph
As a Bath based Train user. All the First Great Western Class 43's were refurbished with the V16 MTU lump and the new Front during the 2000/10's so you won't find a FGW HST with a Paxman lump in it!
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