It felt like a bunch of things where a person would feel like they only saw 1 or 2 niche things they're into, but everyone has a different 1 or 2 games
Conspiracy theory, Avowed got pushed to further work on PS5 port with similar timed exclusivity window. If Indy isn’t going to remain exclusive, why would you bump the Console Exclusive for the Timed Exclusive. They could have both breathed. Towerborne is delayed (except on Steam) anyway. November is a dead zone. It doesn’t make sense otherwise
As an Xbox fan, I hope it does go to PS5. Someday people will understand this isn't a bad thing at all. And Xbox won't be going away because of it. Console sales are not going to keep them afloat.. they've pivoted and can make a ton of money by Game pass/their games played as many places possible. And added bonus, gamers win.
@SensaiChill Completely disagree. There's no need to. They want their games and game pass everywhere.. that obviously includes their own platform. They're just not in the business of being the #1 console. There's a ton of products out there that don't just fold up shop because they're third in their market. Not to mention millions of people have digital libraries of games on Xbox. Those people would never buy an Xbox product again if they just got rid of consoles where their games are. So they would be screwed if they did by losing the biggest fans they have in the first place.
I would have to say that the Mafia announcement was really surprising and probably the best thing about the show. I think the show was solid. Nothing amazing but nothing bad either. But man I have been craving a Mafia game and to hear that they are going back to the more linear scope of the series gets me excited. Mafia 1 is such a fantastic games. Mafia 2 not as good but still fun. Mafia 3 had a great story but the open world did that game no favors. So for them to go back in time to where the family all started has me excited.
I’m starting to feel that all these gamepass first party games are good games but they not super great AAA games like you find in Nintendo or Sony. Indy was the only game I was considering subbing again, but might as well wait and get it at ps5.
Even as an Xbox first gamer (I play everything), I agree to an extent. I'm stoked they have a ton of games coming finally but I am expecting majority to top out around an 8 or maybe 9. Until they prove they can put out 10s at least. With that said.. there's tons of 8s and 9s that are amazing games. Just usually not the cultural movements that some PS/Nintendo exclusives can be at times.
Why pay full price for a game that you might not like or will only play once?. Even if you end up loving it you're better off with Game Pass first then you can buy it outright afterwards.
Most of the time games that I like I buy a physical copy because even if I get it for free with a sub, I learn the hard way that they can be taken away from you. I prefer to buy the games I love than to renting them.
People rate Keighly shows on a weird curve. "I set my expectations that this would be a 4/10 with a bunch of useless ads and very little real new news on major games. And it was a 4/10 so I rate it a 7 since it met my expectations of being a 4."
I haven’t watched any of these live since E3 probably 11 or 12 years ago, but I was going to say 5 out of 10. Maybe should bump it to a 6 just because I put “Secret Level” in my calendar.
They're not getting rid of consoles at all.. that's major hyperbole. They're just not going to win a console war at this point against Sony/Nintendo. They've pivoted and found ways to make a ton of money by Game Pass and their best games being available everywhere. They lost the console wars with Xbox One. Just happy they found a solution instead of going under like a lot of people thought, and sadly, wished for. Their plan with Game Pass and their biggest games being available everywhere includes their console as well.. they're not going to abandon millions of people's libraries of games on console and expect to actually survive by alienating their only real fans. Some people so badly want Xbox to fail it's weird.
MS announcing Indie on PS5 right now is the right move. Let's say MS doesn't announce Indy for PS5 now and does it after the holidays. That would easily translate into the media decrying, "Indie was a failure; GamePass is cratering; Xbox gives up; Machine Games is on the chopping block." MS heads off the litany of negative perception by just fronting the PS5 release here. It's easier and there's no added negative media after the fact. Thank goodness media idiots don't run these PR decisions. This was the right choice.
This shit dragged so hard, free to play bull shit and early access for everything. These two hour showcases three times a year are becoming more and more of a waste
All these shows and showcases have been pretty underwhelming the last few years. It’s either all these games look uninspiring and boring, chasing dumb dead trends, and no big AAA monster type hits. Other than the Xbox show this year, the rest has been quite dull imo. I am hyped for mafia tho, 1 is one of my favorite games of all time
I honestly couldn't make it past 40 minutes. Going back and looking at the games I didn't see and only Civ 7 has any excitement from me. Infinity Nikki completely lost me. 2/10 for me
They're not trying to boost console sales. They lost "console wars" forever when Xbox One was a massive flop out the gate and everybody built their digital libraries elsewhere. It was the worst generation to lose as it was right when digital gaming took off. They're not going to win a substantial amount of people back over to owning Xbox consoles. They can however make a ton of money by Game Pass (and a lot of their best games) being available literally everywhere, eventually. And gamers win by more games available more places. Console sales will be down the list on what matters most to people, in the future.
@DeltronFF I guess my thing is why announce the port for ps5 so early? Why not try to at least let the game sell some consoles for you? Im just saying it's kind of a terrible business decision. Also, I wouldn't really call 50 million console sales a flop. That seems a little extreme lol
@@aaronallen5439 I mean, of course not a total flop.. just in the sense of 360/PS3 was competitive.. Xbox One/PS4 wasnt. you're going to have your longtime OG Xbox/360 fans who are going to buy the Xbox One no matter what. But PS4 probably around 120 million if I had to guess. It's a HUGE gap. Also, a lot of people bought Xbox One initially and throughout the generation, moved away to PC/PlayStation. As far as not announcing Indiana Jones for PS5 until AFTER it releases on Xbox.. I'm with ya.. I would love to hear the thought process on that. I'm sure they have one but I'd be interested to hear how it makes the most sense for them.
@@aaronallen5439I think what the person above is saying is true they tryna create an ecosystem like Nintendo where you use them for a specific reason that you can’t find anywhere else.I also think the “console war” is over very similar to the ending of Nintendo vs sega but if Xbox can pivot with a good business model like game pass they can stay alive
@aaronallen5439 I don't know where my post I just made went so I'll attempt to do it again. But yeah, selling 50 million doesn't sound like a flop but when PS4 sells about 120 million it is. PS3/360 was competive.. PS4/Xbox One was brutal. And that's when digital libraries were created and everybody dug their heels in. Not to mention a lot of people who initially bought an Xbox One eventually left for PC/PlayStation as the generation moved along. There's no coming back from it as far as "console wars" are concerned. As for Indiana Jones.. yeah, I'm with you on that. I would like to hear their reason why they SHOULD announce a PS5 release ahead of their own Xbox release.. curious why they think that makes sense.
@ScottyDo3sntKnow Just off the top of my head. Indiana Jones Secret Level Borderlands 4 Mafia 4. There is more that I for sure am interested in, but do people watch these shows thinking everything must be for me? If I see 2 things in these shows that I really like, it's an A. I am so far behind with games as is.
@@jacoblesperance2115 couldn’t agree more, no one is going to like everything, but in a 2 hour show if there’s 4-6 things you are excited for surely that’s good enough? What more do you want at that point 😂
Lol yah, and Greg should never review a PlayStation game because he's biased towards them, AND while we're at it, dont let him review Xbox games because of his Sony bias, that might hurt the review 😂
Mike you have to say it was 10/10 or else you’ll never be best friends with Geoff!
😂😂😂😂😂 I'd almost forgotten about that
It felt like a bunch of things where a person would feel like they only saw 1 or 2 niche things they're into, but everyone has a different 1 or 2 games
That's a really good way to put it. "Something for everyone, but not everything for anyone"
A lot of weight being placed on a game based on a film franchise where the last one was one of the biggest box office bombs in Disney history.
Which game?
@@RadioDavidlyIndy
Conspiracy theory, Avowed got pushed to further work on PS5 port with similar timed exclusivity window. If Indy isn’t going to remain exclusive, why would you bump the Console Exclusive for the Timed Exclusive. They could have both breathed. Towerborne is delayed (except on Steam) anyway. November is a dead zone. It doesn’t make sense otherwise
As an Xbox fan, I hope it does go to PS5. Someday people will understand this isn't a bad thing at all. And Xbox won't be going away because of it. Console sales are not going to keep them afloat.. they've pivoted and can make a ton of money by Game pass/their games played as many places possible. And added bonus, gamers win.
@@DeltronFF the Xbox console will die off, it’s just a matter of when
@SensaiChill Completely disagree. There's no need to. They want their games and game pass everywhere.. that obviously includes their own platform. They're just not in the business of being the #1 console. There's a ton of products out there that don't just fold up shop because they're third in their market. Not to mention millions of people have digital libraries of games on Xbox. Those people would never buy an Xbox product again if they just got rid of consoles where their games are. So they would be screwed if they did by losing the biggest fans they have in the first place.
@@DeltronFF I also think Gamepass is going to die a slow death in the next gen. We’ll look back at it fondly though.
@@SensaiChill feel free to keep on wishing
You aren't always going to get the mega hits, stop asking for things when they aren't ready.
Half-Life 3: Fun with Portals wya?
Wait Greg is playing WoW? WE NEED TO SEE THIS PLEASE
This is KFG Vol. 3, Episode 76 (Episode 560 overall)
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I would have to say that the Mafia announcement was really surprising and probably the best thing about the show. I think the show was solid. Nothing amazing but nothing bad either. But man I have been craving a Mafia game and to hear that they are going back to the more linear scope of the series gets me excited. Mafia 1 is such a fantastic games. Mafia 2 not as good but still fun. Mafia 3 had a great story but the open world did that game no favors. So for them to go back in time to where the family all started has me excited.
WHY DIDNT ROGER BLINK?
I’m starting to feel that all these gamepass first party games are good games but they not super great AAA games like you find in Nintendo or Sony. Indy was the only game I was considering subbing again, but might as well wait and get it at ps5.
Even as an Xbox first gamer (I play everything), I agree to an extent. I'm stoked they have a ton of games coming finally but I am expecting majority to top out around an 8 or maybe 9. Until they prove they can put out 10s at least. With that said.. there's tons of 8s and 9s that are amazing games. Just usually not the cultural movements that some PS/Nintendo exclusives can be at times.
Why pay full price for a game that you might not like or will only play once?. Even if you end up loving it you're better off with Game Pass first then you can buy it outright afterwards.
Most of the time games that I like I buy a physical copy because even if I get it for free with a sub, I learn the hard way that they can be taken away from you. I prefer to buy the games I love than to renting them.
People rate Keighly shows on a weird curve. "I set my expectations that this would be a 4/10 with a bunch of useless ads and very little real new news on major games. And it was a 4/10 so I rate it a 7 since it met my expectations of being a 4."
listing good karma as a patreon/youtube membership benefit is pretty funny to me 😅 lol
Was kinda hoping we'd see what Tt Games has been working on. Their last game was revealed at Gamescom years ago.
I'm not anti cod but wasnt all that just an on rails scripted action scene?
They have it in with the franchise for sure. Cod can do no wrong :^)
Great recap thanks guys 🤙
I haven’t watched any of these live since E3 probably 11 or 12 years ago, but I was going to say 5 out of 10.
Maybe should bump it to a 6 just because I put “Secret Level” in my calendar.
Aw, Nate’s journals in the uncharted games add so much charm!
The Indy to PS5 is the biggest indication that Xbox consoles are ending and Xbox will be solely a games publisher sooner rather than later.
They already announced a new console.
Only having ps and Nintendo in the console space is not good for competition, and will only hurt the consumer/gamers.
They're not getting rid of consoles at all.. that's major hyperbole. They're just not going to win a console war at this point against Sony/Nintendo. They've pivoted and found ways to make a ton of money by Game Pass and their best games being available everywhere. They lost the console wars with Xbox One. Just happy they found a solution instead of going under like a lot of people thought, and sadly, wished for. Their plan with Game Pass and their biggest games being available everywhere includes their console as well.. they're not going to abandon millions of people's libraries of games on console and expect to actually survive by alienating their only real fans. Some people so badly want Xbox to fail it's weird.
Would the ps5 release of Indiana Jones help it with the game awards next year of keeping it in people's minds?
dammit, I'm upset I missed this pair hosting
1:25:00
MS announcing Indie on PS5 right now is the right move. Let's say MS doesn't announce Indy for PS5 now and does it after the holidays. That would easily translate into the media decrying, "Indie was a failure; GamePass is cratering; Xbox gives up; Machine Games is on the chopping block." MS heads off the litany of negative perception by just fronting the PS5 release here. It's easier and there's no added negative media after the fact. Thank goodness media idiots don't run these PR decisions. This was the right choice.
Now they can use it as an excuse if it does flop
So then when will they announce Blade for PS5? It would be the same situation
Let me know how much more money ya’ll need to give Parris a full time position at KFG. I’ll chip in.
Why can't Indiana Jones JUST be a great game for 50 year olds. A little slower but in a precise way.
Yeah because Sony will demand dual sense features and VR support along with enhanced resolution support
This shit dragged so hard, free to play bull shit and early access for everything. These two hour showcases three times a year are becoming more and more of a waste
Indiana Jones on PS5 10/10 the rest 2/10 not for me kinda boring
All these shows and showcases have been pretty underwhelming the last few years.
It’s either all these games look uninspiring and boring, chasing dumb dead trends, and no big AAA monster type hits. Other than the Xbox show this year, the rest has been quite dull imo.
I am hyped for mafia tho, 1 is one of my favorite games of all time
It's because a few years ago it was mostly only E3 that did a showcase . Now we get them every month
I honestly couldn't make it past 40 minutes. Going back and looking at the games I didn't see and only Civ 7 has any excitement from me. Infinity Nikki completely lost me. 2/10 for me
Sounds like they are copying the "bond moments" from 007 nightfire/agent under fire for indy
Xbox is so dumb. They cannibalize their own console sales. Blows my mind.
They're not trying to boost console sales. They lost "console wars" forever when Xbox One was a massive flop out the gate and everybody built their digital libraries elsewhere. It was the worst generation to lose as it was right when digital gaming took off. They're not going to win a substantial amount of people back over to owning Xbox consoles. They can however make a ton of money by Game Pass (and a lot of their best games) being available literally everywhere, eventually. And gamers win by more games available more places. Console sales will be down the list on what matters most to people, in the future.
@DeltronFF I guess my thing is why announce the port for ps5 so early? Why not try to at least let the game sell some consoles for you? Im just saying it's kind of a terrible business decision. Also, I wouldn't really call 50 million console sales a flop. That seems a little extreme lol
@@aaronallen5439 I mean, of course not a total flop.. just in the sense of 360/PS3 was competitive.. Xbox One/PS4 wasnt. you're going to have your longtime OG Xbox/360 fans who are going to buy the Xbox One no matter what. But PS4 probably around 120 million if I had to guess. It's a HUGE gap. Also, a lot of people bought Xbox One initially and throughout the generation, moved away to PC/PlayStation. As far as not announcing Indiana Jones for PS5 until AFTER it releases on Xbox.. I'm with ya.. I would love to hear the thought process on that. I'm sure they have one but I'd be interested to hear how it makes the most sense for them.
@@aaronallen5439I think what the person above is saying is true they tryna create an ecosystem like Nintendo where you use them for a specific reason that you can’t find anywhere else.I also think the “console war” is over very similar to the ending of Nintendo vs sega but if Xbox can pivot with a good business model like game pass they can stay alive
@aaronallen5439 I don't know where my post I just made went so I'll attempt to do it again. But yeah, selling 50 million doesn't sound like a flop but when PS4 sells about 120 million it is. PS3/360 was competive.. PS4/Xbox One was brutal. And that's when digital libraries were created and everybody dug their heels in. Not to mention a lot of people who initially bought an Xbox One eventually left for PC/PlayStation as the generation moved along. There's no coming back from it as far as "console wars" are concerned. As for Indiana Jones.. yeah, I'm with you on that. I would like to hear their reason why they SHOULD announce a PS5 release ahead of their own Xbox release.. curious why they think that makes sense.
I thought it was one of the better gameskeighleycons.
I give it a 3 out of 10. It was boring and barely anything good aside from like 2 things. there was no point in having this show today.
The whole show?
On crack, my friend, lol.
A perfect show? that would be the day
Curious what are the 2 things that you enjoyed?
@ScottyDo3sntKnow
Just off the top of my head.
Indiana Jones
Secret Level
Borderlands 4
Mafia 4.
There is more that I for sure am interested in, but do people watch these shows thinking everything must be for me?
If I see 2 things in these shows that I really like, it's an A.
I am so far behind with games as is.
@@jacoblesperance2115 couldn’t agree more, no one is going to like everything, but in a 2 hour show if there’s 4-6 things you are excited for surely that’s good enough? What more do you want at that point 😂
Mike is so biased towards Xbox man, how can anyone just believe what he says. And they say they are reviewing, reviewing should be unbiased folks.
Lol yah, and Greg should never review a PlayStation game because he's biased towards them, AND while we're at it, dont let him review Xbox games because of his Sony bias, that might hurt the review 😂
2 hours of pretty much nothing. I’m happy I didn’t watch
sony has a stake in spider-man as a franchise unlike microsoft and Indy
Which is why Marvel offered Spider-Man to Xbox first, right?
Indy will be 83-85 on Xbox and when the PS5 version comes out it will get a score in the mid 90's.