Ian, you do a very good job of translating and adding to your points. As someone who was up there on the podium, I thought you did a fantastic job of representing your association, Canadian beekeepers, and the issues at hand. I remember thinking "this guy doesn't even need to be in the same room as us to make his points heard. Well done. Please keep up the excellent effort at making beekeeping issues relevant to us all. (And I am sure Rod will buy you a beer again. But not before you perhaps buy him a case . . . )
Lol! See you at St.John’s! The boys say we are heading down to George Street to find a pub and get screetched 🍻🐟 Oh wait… edit lol You are Jeff the BC beekeeper and not Jeromy the AB beekeeper. Lol BTW, your contribution represented the interests of your entire Association. These are hard conversations to have. We represent the voice of majority and it’s hard to put our voice of ourselves behind that
Well done and well stated Ian, I just wonder why Canadian and US Universities don't work much closer on Varroa mite research as it is North American problem, mites don't honor border, I've never asked, but are your bees blended Carniolan with some Caucasian crossed, they can't be Italians because they'd eat you out of house and home plus Italians are more suited for southern climates..
@@carlsledge3868 as a Michigan bee keeper myself, I have often asked that same question. Regardless what state or province we are in we are all parts of the the land mass on this side of the pond why can’t we work hand in hand?
You are absolutely correct. Moving solid research to the level of actual application is a non trivial task and often in recognized by academic institutions. Working diligently at this task has positive impacts for academic institutions. While I worked on campus I found the need to get out in the field to knock off the academic barnacles to get a more clear idea about what are relevant questions to expend precious resources to address.
I have to tell you; I sat here in the bee house an listening to all hour an half of this ! I personally find it very educational an informative. An for me? The mites are at the moment; my worst nightmare an enemy . Like wise my southern bees are not as hardy as a northern native bees thro the Michigan winter. Actually I have been spending more time settling traps an bring in more northern native bees. While I had 5 years of public speaking in schools. While you will most w likely disagree with me (( coz a good public speaker is always criticizing his own presentation))< did it for years. But you have a way to capitalize an capture the people an the topic your on. I miss a few of your videos from Time to time. But I have learned a mass of information from your videos. An that is your goal to help an teach bee keepers an be straightforward an honest. All I can add is thank you from one farmer to another an beekeeper to beekeeper…. Ok time for another cup of coffee with Two teaspoons of honeycomb stirred in 😉
This was so good to listen to. It would be really cool if each of the associations could maybe share the pannel on their own youtube channels as well to get a broader audience. Also, thank-you for representing us MB beekeepers so well on the national stages/associations. I found this to be really encouraging.
Ian you have exactly what was asked for give it straight to the point with out wasting our time since it is short . I thought you did that. No problem as presented.
I have a thought about collaboration regarding tech transfer. During my professional career I was heavily involved with what we called Midwest Plan Service. Membership included one agricultural engineer who was extension focused and one who was research focused from each midwestern state. We collaborated in writing books and articles for farmers. It allowed development of information that was applicable to the entire region while creating an understanding about varying circumstances among states.
Ian, You made your point. Your frustration is evident and it is a shame that not everyone is marching to the same beat. We here in the States have the same problems with our regulatory agencies, and sometimes it feels like the bee-keeping industry is not a high priority. Hopefully, the environment in the future will improve. SML BEEs / SWVA
I was waiting for you to talk about the Alberta convention. I thought you did good and represented a balanced view. The direction seems clear to me. We need more funding and collaboration to improve over all bee health. Package bees from the US is not the end all solution to the problems. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Ian.
Delivery tone and beer delivery...sometimes finding the right currency[beer or money or whatever] can be what is needed. The right tools for the job can make all the difference as you know whether it's currency or treatments, all tools. Although the scale is completely different, the past few years have seen advancements in online communications have allowed a beginner like me to learn from the real guys and gals, in beekeeping. Open communication moves forward.
Does anyone in Canada realize that the movement of bees between the US and Canada would be a two way street? I would love to get some tough bees from Ian into my operation. How many northern beeks in the US are looking for hardy bees that can take a winter storm. Those Italian bees out of Florida just don't do it up here in the north.
@@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog The ban on packages seems rather dumb. We don't have anything you don't have. Regulations and certification should be setup to avoid AFB and EFB but we all have mites. In North Dakota there are bees flying into Canada and there are bees from Canada flying into ND. There isn't a glass wall between us.
@@russellkoopman3004 Your.last point is spot on. been that way a long time. very long time. Back in 99 I went to Apimondia in Vancouver. one of the day trips was to a wintering yard ran by the Tegards ( spelling) that was literally less than a kilometer north of the border. As if the bees flying back and forth across the border stopped at customs and declared their covid vax status and dropped all diseases when they crossed over. Found the irony of having yards so close on both sides and not acknowledging the movement of pests both ways plain ass insane and ignorant at best no reason for packages not to go north. . none.
It amazes me that out of everyone on the panel, you are the only one that displays common sense. Some of them should have been politicians instead of beekeepers.
Enjoyed the conversation, I do have a question about something you said the other day. You were talking about OA and glycerin. Did you mean to dribble it on the bees or put it on sponges as an extended application? Thank you for your time...Deb
One thing I noticed about the conference was a lot of discussion around products and how they can/should be modified, either in terms of chemistry or application, but zero talk about breeding for better hygiene. If the medication manufacturers are not "evolving", is there a similar level of effort into evolving a more hygenic bee?
The conversations is the only way to get things worked out. Even here in Ohio you call the Department of Agriculture that takes your money because they are in charge of Apiaries you ask about new mite treatments in the works and all you get is I WILL GET BACK TO YOU.
Hello Ian I have been watching this video but not having time to finish watching it all at this time but will tomorrow at this time so far I have a question that I have been going to ask any of the long timers bee keepers so I thought you would be first . I started out bee keeping in 1968 an keep bees for a lot of years but had to get out of it and just got back into it a few years back anyway my question is after all these years an all the years of people doing study on the mites I have never heard ANYONE say just where the mites are coming from are they living on trees, grass, ag crops, flowers, or other animals maybe birds , deer , dogs etc ???. Are there any testing going on to maybe answer these questions first or at the same time so if found out possible to start treating other places the mites come from to keep these little bastards off our bees . This may be a stupid question but like I said I have never heard anything about this. Thanks for your time an all the work you put into this an the help you all give to the bee keeper Family. THANKS
If you think the goverment is going to save your ass up in Canada then you have way more faith in your goverment than I do in ours. We ended up doing what the US equivalant of the " tech teams" are doing all on our own. it's insane time and expense cost wise but the results on both the genetic level and mite control fronts has been phenomenal. its a lot of work. crap tons work but the results keeping us rolling .
Interesting discussion's. Agreed that bee health is our number one issue and that demand for replacement stock is a result of lacking bee health. In regards to replacement stock, would it not be in the associations best interest to promote beekeepers who have an interest in growing replacement stock. That would be a home grown solution. I see a tremendous opportunity for a young guy who wants to get into farming but doesn't have the land base or capitol to get into other types of farming. I took the bee coarse at the u of m the first winter of covid and decided at that time, that growing nucs is what I was interested in. If I was a young 25 year old, I would pursue this as a career, but I would need some assurance that there would be a market. Signing contracts or may be producing for the association, giving the producer some assurance of a market would be required. Your thoughts?
That’s the rub. The issue goes deeper than that in many ways also. Some want the convenience of dropping in bees rather than the work involved to transfer and haul around equipment
I am one of those hobby State-side beekeepers who the one guy says is gobbling up packaged bees! LOL! But in all honesty, what is available to hobbiests are pretty feeble excuses for bees. They arrive sick, with unproductive queens, and most die the first winter. So don't be in too big of a hurry to open the border! I'll have to research the reason it was closed to begin with! The "tech transfer programs" that were talked about. Sounds like there is really no "transfer" of information? That's weird! My sister in law buys me all sorts of "Save the Bees" stuff! Has that saying been trademarked? Maybe it should be and the funds generated actually go to bee research! Or to finding a bug to kill the bug that is killing our bugs. Here's to 2022 in the mirror!🍻
So sad over 20 years Varroa mite it is still problem in Beekeeping and we still don’t have a solution. But when we wont to fix a problem we can find a vaccine for coronavirus in one year. What’s going on with the government in scientist ??
if you can call the shit that is being tossed at co-vid a vaccine then. all I got to say is 2 things. 1. Your definition is not within the standard old school definition of vaccines. 2. if the vaccine you propose for bees and varroa are as effective as the co-vid ones our bees are more Fuc$ed than anytime previously . The shit did not now nor ever did stop the spred nor keep anyone from getting it. not even close.
Not sure what that Kona queen guy was talking about. There's a huge excess of bees in the US and I know of 3 large beekeepers with over 20k hives that could easily make 100k more packages. With Canadian packages being later than US demand, the queens are better mated and more abundance of healthy bees.
Ian as a beekeeper that is building our families queen and nuc production unit i feel for you and our neighbors to the north . We have been rising replacement stock for our families production unit in south central South Dakota. Sorry to say i will not be able to meet you in Tenn. this coming week at Hive Alive as I had hoped. But i do hope to begin a conversation about bee Health and pest control here on you tube and Email. Hope your mite problems that you ran up against this fall are going to be less this coming spring. Here in western North Carolina we have the double pest problem with Mites and SHB. If you are able to get to Hive Alive check with Bob Binnie ( he owns Blue Ridge Honey CO. in northern Georgia). Best wishes for this coming year.
I don't think with the Canada location is going to be able to supply any were near the need in the event of massive loss of production hives. With out a year round production of bees like you have in southern parts of the world. With out a source of queens and bees from a warmer area early enouth in the season to make the backfill in loses.
Many in other countries think everything is much easier here than here in Germany, especially in beekeeping with the Varroa treatment products or the beekeepers' associations. As you can see from Canada, that's not the case.😎👍
Another thing I was involved with was developing regulations. Beekeepers along with farmer representatives need to get, have and maintained a seat at the table when these regulations are being developed. It needs to be part of tech transfer and academic efforts too. It is hard and often thankless work but necessary. Even getting a seat at the table may be difficult.
Dalan company representative was is in first row auditorium. That means something big for future if they gain what they announces for AFB. Ian you are OK. To my knowledge and experience it is more virus than just varroa story. But time will show.
Sounds like the BC guy more worried about selling 1500 nucs .. farm needs airplane js could have thermal camera fly all your yards identify all the weak and strong one morning flight.. bee meetings around the country just fly in get ride
Sorry but the people at the table seem to be doing PR work for their own gain and not really addressing any of the problems. I feel sorry for you when all you get is a repeat answer to every question bragging about what they are doing. Good luck but this conference looked like a waste of time and your septic problems were a blessing.
Ian, that has to be an example of the most passive-aggressive introduction I have ever heard. Every other panel member had their resumes padded with stats to lend credibility while you were the you tuber with septic issues. Don't know who the MC is but he made it clear that he doesn't know who you are. That is exactly the opposite of what a facilitator should do. Not an accident by any means.
Ian, you do a very good job of translating and adding to your points. As someone who was up there on the podium, I thought you did a fantastic job of representing your association, Canadian beekeepers, and the issues at hand. I remember thinking "this guy doesn't even need to be in the same room as us to make his points heard. Well done. Please keep up the excellent effort at making beekeeping issues relevant to us all. (And I am sure Rod will buy you a beer again. But not before you perhaps buy him a case . . . )
Lol! See you at St.John’s! The boys say we are heading down to George Street to find a pub and get screetched 🍻🐟
Oh wait… edit lol
You are Jeff the BC beekeeper and not Jeromy the AB beekeeper. Lol
BTW, your contribution represented the interests of your entire Association. These are hard conversations to have. We represent the voice of majority and it’s hard to put our voice of ourselves behind that
Well done and well stated Ian, I just wonder why Canadian and US Universities don't work much closer on Varroa mite research as it is North American problem, mites don't honor border, I've never asked, but are your bees blended Carniolan with some Caucasian crossed, they can't be Italians because they'd eat you out of house and home plus Italians are more suited for southern climates..
@@carlsledge3868 as a Michigan bee keeper myself, I have often asked that same question. Regardless what state or province we are in we are all parts of the the land mass on this side of the pond why can’t we work hand in hand?
You are absolutely correct. Moving solid research to the level of actual application is a non trivial task and often in recognized by academic institutions. Working diligently at this task has positive impacts for academic institutions. While I worked on campus I found the need to get out in the field to knock off the academic barnacles to get a more clear idea about what are relevant questions to expend precious resources to address.
I have to tell you; I sat here in the bee house an listening to all hour an half of this ! I personally find it very educational an informative. An for me? The mites are at the moment; my worst nightmare an enemy . Like wise my southern bees are not as hardy as a northern native bees thro the Michigan winter. Actually I have been spending more time settling traps an bring in more northern native bees. While I had 5 years of public speaking in schools. While you will most w likely disagree with me (( coz a good public speaker is always criticizing his own presentation))< did it for years. But you have a way to capitalize an capture the people an the topic your on. I miss a few of your videos from Time to time. But I have learned a mass of information from your videos. An that is your goal to help an teach bee keepers an be straightforward an honest. All I can add is thank you from one farmer to another an beekeeper to beekeeper…. Ok time for another cup of coffee with Two teaspoons of honeycomb stirred in 😉
This was so good to listen to. It would be really cool if each of the associations could maybe share the pannel on their own youtube channels as well to get a broader audience. Also, thank-you for representing us MB beekeepers so well on the national stages/associations. I found this to be really encouraging.
Ian you have exactly what was asked for give it straight to the point with out wasting our time since it is short . I thought you did that. No problem as presented.
Thank you wish you have more of this god bless you
You were brilliant. Thank you
Huge thanks for all your efforts! Great toque hair day 😂
LOL. . Them there septic issues. All I can picture is Cousin Eddie in Christmas Vacation pumping the RV at the street.
Yes we watch it every year along with a few others.
Hahahaha, ya, quite a picture.
Shitters full!!!
@That Bee Man at Faith Apiaries Ian, standing in a robe. . The sh!tters full. . Lmao
Oh yes, it was over full !!!
Nicely stated Ian! We really should look at all this from a North America rather than country/state perspective, if we are going to find solutions.
Happy New Years 🎉
I have a thought about collaboration regarding tech transfer. During my professional career I was heavily involved with what we called Midwest Plan Service. Membership included one agricultural engineer who was extension focused and one who was research focused from each midwestern state. We collaborated in writing books and articles for farmers. It allowed development of information that was applicable to the entire region while creating an understanding about varying circumstances among states.
Ian, You made your point. Your frustration is evident and it is a shame that not everyone is marching to the same beat. We here in the States have the same problems with our regulatory agencies, and sometimes it feels like the bee-keeping industry is not a high priority. Hopefully, the environment in the future will improve. SML BEEs / SWVA
Thanks for sharing!
I was waiting for you to talk about the Alberta convention. I thought you did good and represented a balanced view. The direction seems clear to me. We need more funding and collaboration to improve over all bee health. Package bees from the US is not the end all solution to the problems. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Ian.
Nice job Ian!
thank you for sharing
Delivery tone and beer delivery...sometimes finding the right currency[beer or money or whatever] can be what is needed. The right tools for the job can make all the difference as you know whether it's currency or treatments, all tools. Although the scale is completely different, the past few years have seen advancements in online communications have allowed a beginner like me to learn from the real guys and gals, in beekeeping. Open communication moves forward.
Does anyone in Canada realize that the movement of bees between the US and Canada would be a two way street? I would love to get some tough bees from Ian into my operation. How many northern beeks in the US are looking for hardy bees that can take a winter storm. Those Italian bees out of Florida just don't do it up here in the north.
Yes queens could open up again going south
@@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog The ban on packages seems rather dumb. We don't have anything you don't have. Regulations and certification should be setup to avoid AFB and EFB but we all have mites. In North Dakota there are bees flying into Canada and there are bees from Canada flying into ND. There isn't a glass wall between us.
@@russellkoopman3004 Your.last point is spot on. been that way a long time. very long time.
Back in 99 I went to Apimondia in Vancouver.
one of the day trips was to a wintering yard ran by the Tegards ( spelling) that was literally less than a kilometer north of the border.
As if the bees flying back and forth across the border stopped at customs and declared their covid vax status and dropped all diseases when they crossed over.
Found the irony of having yards so close on both sides and not acknowledging the movement of pests both ways plain ass insane and ignorant at best
no reason for packages not to go north. . none.
@@wishicouldspel No reason they can't go south.
Great point.
I really do understand past but there are some good lines in the states that would help out with the Aurora I think so
It amazes me that out of everyone on the panel, you are the only one that displays common sense. Some of them should have been politicians instead of beekeepers.
It’s a sensitive topic, they represented their associations very well
Enjoyed the conversation, I do have a question about something you said the other day. You were talking about OA and glycerin. Did you mean to dribble it on the bees or put it on sponges as an extended application? Thank you for your time...Deb
Both
One thing I noticed about the conference was a lot of discussion around products and how they can/should be modified, either in terms of chemistry or application, but zero talk about breeding for better hygiene. If the medication manufacturers are not "evolving", is there a similar level of effort into evolving a more hygenic bee?
Yes indeed
The conversations is the only way to get things worked out. Even here in Ohio you call the Department of Agriculture that takes your money because they are in charge of Apiaries you ask about new mite treatments in the works and all you get is I WILL GET BACK TO YOU.
Hello Ian I have been watching this video but not having time to finish watching it all at this time but will tomorrow at this time so far I have a question that I have been going to ask any of the long timers bee keepers so I thought you would be first . I started out bee keeping in 1968 an keep bees for a lot of years but had to get out of it and just got back into it a few years back anyway my question is after all these years an all the years of people doing study on the mites I have never heard ANYONE say just where the mites are coming from are they living on trees, grass, ag crops, flowers, or other animals maybe birds , deer , dogs etc ???. Are there any testing going on to maybe answer these questions first or at the same time so if found out possible to start treating other places the mites come from to keep these little bastards off our bees . This may be a stupid question but like I said I have never heard anything about this. Thanks for your time an all the work you put into this an the help you all give to the bee keeper Family. THANKS
Is it me or is sound missing? Now it works
So part of the answer to the bee issues in Manatoba, is everyone needs to become more self sustainable?
Some times it's best to go straight to the hart of an issue. It might not be the most comfortable way to do it, but it gets there quickly.
Honestly thought I would have come out with 50 house I'll be lucky to come up with two Bing bee lost right before winner 30 out of 50
If you think the goverment is going to save your ass up in Canada then you have way more faith in your goverment than I do in ours.
We ended up doing what the US equivalant of the " tech teams" are doing all on our own. it's insane time and expense cost wise but the results on both the genetic level and mite control fronts has been phenomenal. its a lot of work. crap tons work but the results keeping us rolling .
I'm guessing it was a blessing that you didn't go on that road trip, wasn't the weather out of control that way during your planned trip?
Bravo. Way to cut to the chase in a professional manor. Sounds like he dodged the question
Interesting discussion's. Agreed that bee health is our number one issue and that demand for replacement stock is a result of lacking bee health. In regards to replacement stock, would it not be in the associations best interest to promote beekeepers who have an interest in growing replacement stock. That would be a home grown solution. I see a tremendous opportunity for a young guy who wants to get into farming but doesn't have the land base or capitol to get into other types of farming. I took the bee coarse at the u of m the first winter of covid and decided at that time, that growing nucs is what I was interested in. If I was a young 25 year old, I would pursue this as a career, but I would need some assurance that there would be a market. Signing contracts or may be producing for the association, giving the producer some assurance of a market would be required. Your thoughts?
That’s the rub. The issue goes deeper than that in many ways also. Some want the convenience of dropping in bees rather than the work involved to transfer and haul around equipment
I am one of those hobby State-side beekeepers who the one guy says is gobbling up packaged bees! LOL! But in all honesty, what is available to hobbiests are pretty feeble excuses for bees. They arrive sick, with unproductive queens, and most die the first winter. So don't be in too big of a hurry to open the border!
I'll have to research the reason it was closed to begin with!
The "tech transfer programs" that were talked about. Sounds like there is really no "transfer" of information? That's weird!
My sister in law buys me all sorts of "Save the Bees" stuff! Has that saying been trademarked? Maybe it should be and the funds generated actually go to bee research! Or to finding a bug to kill the bug that is killing our bugs.
Here's to 2022 in the mirror!🍻
So sad over 20 years Varroa mite it is still problem in Beekeeping and we still don’t have a solution. But when we wont to fix a problem we can find a vaccine for coronavirus in one year. What’s going on with the government in scientist ??
if you can call the shit that is being tossed at co-vid a vaccine then. all I got to say is 2 things.
1. Your definition is not within the standard old school definition of vaccines.
2. if the vaccine you propose for bees and varroa are as effective as the co-vid ones our bees are more Fuc$ed than anytime previously .
The shit did not now nor ever did stop the spred nor keep anyone from getting it. not even close.
@@wishicouldspel you totally didn’t get my point
well done.
Not sure what that Kona queen guy was talking about. There's a huge excess of bees in the US and I know of 3 large beekeepers with over 20k hives that could easily make 100k more packages. With Canadian packages being later than US demand, the queens are better mated and more abundance of healthy bees.
Ian as a beekeeper that is building our families queen and nuc production unit i feel for you and our neighbors to the north . We have been rising replacement stock for our families production unit in south central South Dakota. Sorry to say i will not be able to meet you in Tenn. this coming week at Hive Alive as I had hoped. But i do hope to begin a conversation about bee Health and pest control here on you tube and Email. Hope your mite problems that you ran up against this fall are going to be less this coming spring. Here in western North Carolina we have the double pest problem with Mites and SHB. If you are able to get to Hive Alive check with Bob Binnie ( he owns Blue Ridge Honey CO. in northern Georgia). Best wishes for this coming year.
I don't think with the Canada location is going to be able to supply any were near the need in the event of massive loss of production hives. With out a year round production of bees like you have in southern parts of the world. With out a source of queens and bees from a warmer area early enouth in the season to make the backfill in loses.
So, the closest ally the US to get bees is totally out because, WHY?
Many in other countries think everything is much easier here than here in Germany, especially in beekeeping with the Varroa treatment products or the beekeepers' associations. As you can see from Canada, that's not the case.😎👍
Another thing I was involved with was developing regulations. Beekeepers along with farmer representatives need to get, have and maintained a seat at the table when these regulations are being developed. It needs to be part of tech transfer and academic efforts too. It is hard and often thankless work but necessary. Even getting a seat at the table may be difficult.
A major problem is regulations. A bigger problem is often the people that think we must have.
Dalan company representative was is in first row auditorium. That means something big for future if they gain what they announces for AFB.
Ian you are OK. To my knowledge and experience it is more virus than just varroa story. But time will show.
Здраствуйте, почему нет суптитров?
Есть, все работает
Sounds like the BC guy more worried about selling 1500 nucs .. farm needs airplane js could have thermal camera fly all your yards identify all the weak and strong one morning flight.. bee meetings around the country just fly in get ride
everyone is stuck on. Look a honey bee but great job.
Sorry but the people at the table seem to be doing PR work for their own gain and not really addressing any of the problems. I feel sorry for you when all you get is a repeat answer to every question bragging about what they are doing. Good luck but this conference looked like a waste of time and your septic problems were a blessing.
Ian, that has to be an example of the most passive-aggressive introduction I have ever heard. Every other panel member had their resumes padded with stats to lend credibility while you were the you tuber with septic issues.
Don't know who the MC is but he made it clear that he doesn't know who you are.
That is exactly the opposite of what a facilitator should do.
Not an accident by any means.
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