How do Wolverine's claws work? | Marvel Anatomy | Jonah Lobe
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- Опубликовано: 18 янв 2023
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One of the best quotes I've actually heard wolverine say is when he's asked if he likes people cuz he seems like sort of a loner and would prefer to be on his own. Wolverine actually says "I'm actually fine with most people and actually prefer to be around people it's other people who usually don't prefer to be around me so I learn to be all right on my own."
Awesome quote. Thanks for this!
Where does he say this??
@@mannyh4043 in Marvel Midnight Suns when you recruit him
@@isaiahhellems7901 oh the game, ok I didn’t play it. Thanks!
Should be my life quote
The muscles that extend and retract his claws is such a killer idea
Thank you so much! I had so much fun with this one.
Unfortunately, muscles can only pull. Elongated muscles are relaxed, tensed muscles are shortened.
A somewhat more realistic might be muscles connected to the base of each claw, and running along the claws to the base of the wrist. The muscles pull and extend the claws that way.
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Anatomically, for this to work, there would have to be two muscles per claw, one to retract and one to extend. However, the muscles that retract would bulge quite a bit, after all relaxed those muscles would have to be at least as long as the forearm. That's a fairly decent bulge when contracted, but given his muscle mass in that area, they are not really noticed as they would blend in with the other muscles. Unfortunately, those that extend would be very noticable as large lumps in his hand, if they were located there, but it would make more sense if they were also in the forearm. Additionally, those muscles could be attached to ligaments or tendons, I can't remember which one does what, and when they contract, they pull on the ligaments/tendons and those cause the claws to extend. However, for that to work, they would have to look like a rope and pulley system. The ligaments/tendons would have to ride over something inside his hand or wrist area to cause a reverse action, if that makes sense?
The mechanics of his claws would be much simpler if they weren't so long. Unlike a cat, whose claws stay in the tips of their toes, his are housed on his forearm and that complicated things quite a bit. Add to this, when his claws are extended, they still allow him to bend and twist his wrists, so the internal ends must pass completely through his wrist and into his hand, that makes it even harder to stabilize them when you consider how much is outside of his body as compared to what's left inside.
Honestly, the whole thing, while cool and awesome, is truly next to impossible, if they had come out of his forearm close to the wrist and were not as long, they would be more realistic and reasonably possible, but hey, we all know it's just a comic book character and what's cool about making it possible? 🤔🤷🤣😂
@@DrewLSsix maybe the muscles pull them in and the claws shoot out when they relax?
@@haze4622 maybe if they were somehow spring loaded, but that would contradict the idea of his original bone claws
The first x-men movie did a good job of showing how the skeleton works and where the claws ride. The problem nobody ever addresses is that muscles only PULL. They don't "piston". He would have to have muscles in his hand/wrist area to pull the claws out of his hands, and another set to retract. This Wolverine would have to sling his arm ridiculously hard to extend his claws
This is 100% accurate. I tried to draw two sets, but I just could not make it look cool, it all looked too complicated and messy. In the end, I went with a simpler, more visually, gratifying look, because I had no real world analog to base it off of!
@@JonahLobeDraws yeah, sorry if it came across insulting. It just always boggled my mind as a kid. If it helps, the earlier iterations of his character went from "the claws are in the gloves" to "there is installed hardware for that", to the final form.
Your art is fantastic, by the way.
@@vensheaalara not insulting at all! I appreciate your attention to detail - it means you’re actually paying attention!! And thank you 🙏🏼
I'm wondering if the claws are just naturally extended and the muscles are used to retract them, not extend them.
@@johnmonahan4377 that's how I always interpreted them. That they're like a collapsible knife rather being hydraulically ejected
I remember reading that once his claws are fully extended, he’s able to bend his wrists as the tendons bend at the base of his claw, but whenever sheathing or unsheathing he must keep his wrist straight other wise they’d pop out his palms or the top of his wrists depending on where his hand bends
Damn, then he can be a part of the Assassin's Creed 😝
I think it happens to him in the comics when he was young and he didn't really know about his claws, so they ran through his own palms to his horror and surprise.
@@vitaliyred622he was off planet and drunk off his tits and did this
You earned my sub when you spoke of not thinking about a deadline, and when you spoke about not saving your art file properly. Both your art and your ability to be honest about the save file is impressive.
Thank you Joe. My whole intention is to demystify the art process, so I always try to be as honest as possible!
I love how these videos aren't just advertisements for the book but genuine incredible art videos with lessons and humor and advice and story
Thanks so much for that thoughtful comment. I want all my videos to be worthwhile for everyone!
There’s an old edition of “What If” comics titles along the lines of, “What if Wolverine Died.” In that issue, Wolverine flesh was completely burned (if I remember correctly) exposing his adamantium bones. What was particularly interesting to me, was the design of the claws, and the mechanical device in Wolverine’s forearms which extracted the claws. Each forearm has three adamantium tubes, which stored each claw. The “sniktz” noise was the metal sliding through those tubes in the forearms. Although “What If” is not cannon, it was probably one of the better designs which shows in detail the anatomy of Wolverine. I also remember reading somewhere Wolverine weighed really heavy because of his bones. It something ridiculous like 300 pounds. It just goes to show at 5’3” Wolverine is just a savage!
Yeah that’s why I made him so short and on the front of the book!! He’s a short little unit. Must weight SO much
I remember that issue!
I have The Phoenix Saga original graphic novel and I remember Kitty Pride (as a barely adolescent young lady) remarking about how heavy he was when he was rendered unconscious. He’s been one of the most evolved characters in comics. He’s been fused with Batman in another continuity, he’s been “killed”, sent to “hell”, and yet he still keeps going.
I remember a few instances of Wolverine being reduced to his skeleton. The oldest had him left in Limbo where due to time distortion he had already been dead for some time. Some demon was using his claws for toothpicks. In Civil War he got all his flesh blown off by Nitro, but he got better. There was the time after he got his metal bones back but lost his healing factor, and he nearly got roasted to death before it switched back on. When they finally showed him recovering he looked like a squat Deadpool.
From memory the What if issue predates the fatal attractions storyline where we originally find out (and so does wolverine) that his claws were natural and not implants
The the weapon x in the early 80s story Hines and the professor talk about implanting “terminals” at the knuckles to keep the holes open so there wasn’t as much blood
I mean, what's not to like? The rad discussion of Logan's claws, the amazing art tutorial, some humor, so encouragement to achieve our dreams. A++
I really like how you paid attention to the radius bone because they need to align for the claws to be able to come out right from the knuckles. This is the same reason why X-23's foot claws don't make any sense. If the claws aren't protruding, how does her metatarsals and cuineforms are able to do any movement? She'd be clumping around like her feet didn't have any movement, because they couldn't.
Omg her little toe bones - what a nightmare!! I tried to figure those out for her for the book, and I couldn’t really make it work very well, tho I tried
What if the claws didn't come outa her toes but between them 🤔
@@crisalcantara7671 if they were shorter it might make sense but theyre just too long
@@lifeispain404 are they really that long 😁😂😂
@@crisalcantara7671 I wasn't talking about her toes. Her metarsus would be pretty much immobile if she had claw like she has in her foot.
I grew up on the 90s cartoon series and Wolverine was one of my favorites the idea of your hands having the claws come out felt so right. I know many of times I just held things in between my fingers claiming to be Wolverine. Still do at 30...
Same here. though I'm almost 33
@@asimovstarling8806 Oh I do too. And I just turned 40. Nothing is cooler than Wolverine (except Mantis)! I believe I proved this point in the video. ;)
As long as you don’t save you can undo flatten
I'll be sitting there watching TV and just hold my hand out just to make sure I can't pop any claws lol
I think we all do it man. It could be forks or chopsticks or pens. If theres 3 of em, im wolverine.
That ending caused my physical anguish. Scenarios like that is why I always keep my art on multiple layers and never combine any of it.
Worst it got was one thing that was like 600+ layers.
A lot of it is just incompetence on my part, but something of that sort happening is beyond hoffiying.
Hope you somehow managed to find a workaround
Thank you Destiny!! I really appreciate that. As you are a fellow artist, you should totally come hang out on my lifestream and say hi! Monday-Wednesday-Friday!!
YES! Wolverine is my favorite and you did him justice. Awesome work Jonah! =D
Aww thank you so much Bill! I am trying to my best with these, hope you're enjoying the series.
I love how his claws collapse & sheath into his arm the way you drew it. Really cool.
With Wolvie I’ve always loved the idea that if any normal human were to full on punch him, they’d break their hand against his adamantium skull.
Thanks Lion! Be sure to watch my new video on venom.
I love wolverine as a character. They way you drew his arms I never realized he has to have extra muscles to push the claws out. Wow learn something everyday I guess thanks..
My pleasure James! Hope you watch the other videos in my series too!
"I invented him myself, when I was seven". Those are subscribing words, right there, man.
Ha! So pleased to hear it. Thanks for the subscription my friend!
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Back in the 80s writer Chris Claremont mentioned quite often that Wolverine's claws were bionic implants. This was also mentioned in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Weapons edition.
Could you possibly take that into consideration and draw an illustration how that would look??
Ahh I would but Marvel wanted me to do this version and so that’s what I included in the book. I would do the other version, but unfortunately, my plate is currently full!
You can actually see the bionic implants after a sentinel fries Wolverine down to bare bones in the Days of Future Past event in the X-Men comic books.
I remembering reading a comic 30 years ago. Wolverine had been captured and tortured. I specifically remember him saying good thing his claws were not operated by muscles or he would not have anything to give and stated that they were psionically controlled. So I reject any notion of muscles popping claws.
You saving the file flat without a layered backup instantly triggered my Jr. Artist in 1st major job PTSD....I love your work man!
Lol you know my pain Dino!! And thank you!! Since you’re another artist, you should come join my Twitch stream some time!
Have you featured Venom yet? I think seeing how a living symbiotic organism bonds and works with a human being would be awesome.
He's in the book! I'm working on a video for him right now actually - hoping to show that one after I launch Storm in a week. If you want to see what Venom's spread looks like, come find me on Instagram!
There was on What If where Spider-Man had completely bonded with his suit. He got a hit of sonic energy and his skeleton was exposed. Like all of the muscles, tissues and organs had been replaced via symbiosis.
@@JonahLobeDraws just got a subscriber for that one
@@mrgreatbigmooseAnd, correct me if I'm wrong, he re-named him-self as, Poison.
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This is my favourite art video, full of failure, mistake, unfortune and unfulfillment of being recognised. Which is exactly like me and all of us drawing, thanks for sharing all this out and make me feel like it is normal for me to experience all that and it is a great thing that we pass through 1 step at a time
Aww Kujo I really appreciate that!! Thanks for watching and I hope you’re following for more art content and education, including the covering of my own upcoming comic book!
Your humor and your art are both amazing!!
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This is why I love RUclips, crazy talented people, great channel man!
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Amazing drawing. This is the most spectacular wolverine anatomy drawings I've ever seen 😊👍
Wow thank you my friend! be sure to check out my other videos too :)
This was quite possibly the best video I’ve seen in a long time. You are extremely talented and presented your craft in a funny and informative way. Instant like and subscribe. Thank you for your work. Save those PSDs! 😂
Kevin wow thank you bro!! Appreciate the comment and sub. Hope you enjoy the other vids - got a new one dropping in a week!
I remember being a kid and trying to figure out his powers. My uncle had come in and asked what I was doing, and I told him. He paused for a second and then said, "Predatory Animal, he's agile, has hightend senses, vicious/wildlike instincts and retractable claws.". It blew my mind once I started wrapping my 11 year old brain around it.
I love it, great story Bryant thank you for sharing!
Ok, first time watching, you're effortless humor and just how genuine you are has got me subbed. You're also hella talented.
Awww thanks Goon!! I really appreciate the kind words, and the subscription! See you in another video soon… also, feel free to join my live stream, or whenever! Would be nice to say hello.
Your energy is infectious brother. You earned a sub. It’s jaw dropping to see your talent on display. Thank you for sharing with us!
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Another banger episode and a great lesson. Gonna use this for my illustration projects. Social media and Ai art makes it feel like the process is just a button press to an intstant perfect image 🙏. We forget the time and labour it takes to create something big.
ugh I hate AI art! It's so creepy and it's totally intruding on our industry in such a horrible way. Thank you so much for the kind words and encouragement, I'm so glad that this video will help add to your own inspiration and idea-generation!
Its interesting that he seemingly designed the muscles so that they are contracted when his claws are in and they are relaxed when his claws are out. That would mean if he ever relaxes too much his claws would come out and he actually has to hold them in instead of the relaxed state being the claws in and him having to flex them out.
It was really just an aesthetic decision, I tried to make it work, the way that muscles actually work, and I just couldn’t make it look right…
I just found this channel because of this video (I love love love Logan), and now I am subscribed. Love your stuff, friend. Thank you for sharing!
My pleasure Ben, thanks so much for subs I’ve! Got some cool stuff on the way.
I've just found this video and I'm amazed with how great it is, not only the artwork (that is insane) but the whole video. Thank you!! subscribed and all that already 😂
Much love Lucas, and thank you! 🙌🏻❤️
great work. interesting notes: original idea was his claws where attached to the his gloves. years later they would pop out on the back of his hands where he had slits that allowed the claws to come out. they had mentioned that the claws were implanted and were not a natural part of his body. ultimately someone came out with the idea that they come out from in between his knuckles which would make a more logical sense in being able to pop them in and out making them an extension of his body. and since the adamantium was fused to his skeletal structure why not make the claws also part of his skeletal structure.
I love the idea, and I love how it evolved, don’t you Eddie?
This is awesome. I have NEVER seen anything like it. And it gives SO much more to the heroes and villains. And it gives reason, why's and HOW of some of their powers work.
I LOOOVE this style of drawing of yours❤️ Plus you're REALLY good at this stuff.😌🙏👏
Thanks so much Fury! I hope you watched some of my other videos, then? Also, you should definitely order the book, it is designed for you!
@@JonahLobeDraws i totally will. Though..need to save up first😅💸 i'm not the most wealthy person😅🙏
But fir suuure i will😁🙌😉👍
That was the coolest video I've ever seen. Will watch 100 of these. Happy RUclips recommended you. Great job. I enjoyed the wisdom in the middle too. That's a good format.
Thanks Ben!!! I tried to add a little bit of myself in all the videos, get a little art education in there, make them entertaining… I do my best!
What always intrigued me most about Logan is that he for most of the comic series we see him in really two emotional states: full of rage or lonely/alone. The gruffness tends to portray very poor social skills but he can be a great listener. When in rage, he never takes pleasure like some characters can and that's something I found really fascinating about him.
You're an incredible artist, I'm surprised your channel hasn't blown up yet. Yojr videos need more views!
Thanks Zurr! I'm really leaning into it this year, so with help from people like you, hopefully I'll start "blowing up" soon. Spread the word friend!!
Totally agree!!!
I would imagine the muscles that work his claws would contract in the other direction. His natural, relaxed state is with the claws retracted. Therefore, to extend the claws, the muscles would have to be contracting towards the hands.
I was thinking this as well. This illustration is exactly the the opposite of how muscles actually function.
There's a comic that addresses this. I want to say it takes place in Krakoa, but I could be wrong. In any case a bunch of mutants have power suppression collars on, including Wolverine. His claws are out and he explains when asked that he is normally holding them in, rather than pushing them out when needed.
@Joe Dukes this is not a dig at you, this goes for thr writers of that comic. That makes no sense. 1st suppressing mutant power typically doesn't affect physical manifestations of mutations, it's been shown numerous times on various mutants. 2nd, the idea that the natural state of his claws is extended is fundamentally ludicrous. If holding them in were a conscious effort he'd never be able to hold them in for any extended amount of time, much less when he's asleep or knocked unconscious. It's been shown that when he's knocked out his claws retract.
you said at the ink drawing that no one looks at the little lines, but without the little lines, the drawing would look weird, so you're doing a great job! and btw i'm learning to go digital and i get great inspiration from this, so thank you!
Heyyyy good thank you Michael for looking at all my little lines! If you'd like to join one of my livestreams and watch me do digital (and ask questions), I'm on Twitch Mon, Wed, and Fri!
@@JonahLobeDraws ohh thank you, I would definitely go watch! :))
I just gotta appreciate Jonahs dedication to replying to all these comments, good work man!
Man Txcca I am TIRED…
This was inspirational, entertaining, and educational. And at the same time, it generated huge amounts of rage and jealousy due to witnessing such skill and humility in the delivery. I loved your wisdom and encouragement.
All in all, I both love and hate you with the same amount of ferocity that Wolverine felt within that test chamber.
Wishing you all the success and praise you deserve. Hope to one day support you more financially. But at the moment, this is all I can afford. ❤🎉😅
Love this comment, hahaha. I am happy to have commenters like you watching my vids! Hope you subscribed, got more coming imminently!
This is actually one of the better illustrations of how his claws should be. I hate the blade designs that have them coming out between the knuckles. There actually was a series of comics back in the 80's (they illlustraded how different characters powers and tech worked like Cyclops's visor) that showed how his claws worked and that there were bone spurs on his wrist that locked them in place so that he could bend his wrist after they were extended.
Not only a great artist, but an awesome story teller. Thanks for the video.
My pleasure Angel! Have you watched any of my other videos too?
This is such a cool concept for an art and comics video. Never seen this before very cool!
I've done that before with the saving of a flattened file over the original layered file and it really is horrible. Your re-enactment perfectly encapsulates the feeling of immense terror and dread that overcomes you when you realize what you've done and how stupid it was.
Thank you Robert. The pain was real. Hope you’ve subscribed for more?
13:25 Always got a kick out of Wolverine being inspired by Paul D'Amato's portrayal of Dr. Hook McCracken in Paul Newman's 1977 hockey film "Slap Shot".
BTW, you've got me seriously wanting to see a pissed off, six armed Wolverine tear assing all over the MCU now. You got a sub for your effort....
Wowww Dullahan is that for real?? I watched that movie - Paul Newman right?? Anyway, thank you so much for the comment and for the sub, it means a lot.
@@JonahLobeDraws Oh, yeah. 100% Truth. John Byrne was quoted as saying Frank Miller based his version of Wolverine on Eastwood, while he picked D'Amato, who only had five minutes of screen time in the whole movie. During the interview, Byrne admitted that he didn't even know the actor's name but had "the look". Short, dark hair and complexion, mean as all hell, and possessing some of the most disturbing looking eyes I've ever seen on a human. I can't really nail down why the guy's gaze is so unnerving, it's almost like the guy's body and speech are doing the acting job, but his eyes are constantly searching for a way to kill you when the rest of his body isn't looking. I hesitate to use the term "crazy eyes", but there it is.
I think that the only other film I've noticed the guy in is The Deer Hunter, but he had less screen time in that than in Slap Shot.
Excellent piece, the detail to the mechanics of his metal claws where my favorite part. 🤙🏾
Thanks so much Alexander! Hope you got to watch my previous vids?
Enjoyed every minute. Enjoyed the review of the drawing and the analysis of wolverine and why he rules. Oh, and. Great intro on him. This video did not need that much quality content to be great. Gonna go watch them all now! Please keep it up
Thanks Ben! I was not sure how many more videos in the series I would do, because they were not getting very many watches… But this video seems to finally be doing OK! Comments like this and follows help a lot. I’m also on Instagram and Patreon too my friend 😉
“… I invented him when I was 7.” *Adamantium pitch forks lowering…*
Hahaha awesome video Jonah. Perfect choice having the process of his claws extending was great and I never even considered the inking nuances that help mask anatomical issues with having three right arms blend into a motioned action.
Also your general advice on tackling any large task is absolutely dead on. It reminded me vaguely of a book on the subject titled “Eat That Frog” and the way you specifically worded your approach to large tasks is genuinely going to stick with me, and I love the positivity surrounding that. Excellent super power.
MANTIS! How awesome! My childhood super hero was a stick figure with a cape and boxing gloves named Mr Ka-powie… and Thing from the addams family because I liked that in 3rd grade and why not. Significantly neater than my design hahaha, but also I thought of Michael Scott from the Office claiming to have invented unicorns. You did not take that route with Mantis hahaha.
You have such a great grasp of the characters, and your passion for the project comes out tenfold in these videos. It’s great, and another wonderful one, and the process is as gorgeous as it is fascinating. “Not too shabby” at all good sir.
AGH! That dramatization was painfully funny and tragic. Dang! So sorry that happened. Sounds like a mistake the smartest man in the multiverse could make… speaking of, I think Dr. Richards would be an awesome candidate for the next video. I can’t imagine the artistic liberty taken to bend and adapt a rigid anatomy to Fantastical proportions… pun intended
Thanks so much for all the kind words! I had a blast making this video, it's too bad the art ultimately was... compromised.
Maybe one day Mr. Ka-powie will team up with Mantis, eh?? We'll get there, one bite at a time...
Without rather large forearms, there is no way 12” claws would fit if he still wanted to bend his wrists, AND hold the claws in position fully extended.
Still, the art here is phenomenal and breathtaking. Somehow beautiful and yet macabre at the same time. I love it.
Thank you Sonic! I hope you’re watching my other vids??
I've always wondered this... thanks for satisfying my curiousity. Can't wait to get my copy of the book
Me too Sly! Let me know when it arrived ;)
Marvel used to publish an annual book to detail things like how Wolverine's claws worked, Iron Man's Mark V Flying Suit, etc. I have a couple of them boxed up in my collection somewhere. I don't remember whether it was called an almanac or encyclopedia or something else, but what your're showing in your video is much like what I recall from that book back in the '80s. Well done.
Thanks Smith! Be sure to catch my newest video on Venom!!
It would be nice to explore how Colossus goes from human skin to metal and just how deep that goes.
That’s actually covered in the book!
@@JonahLobeDraws Looks like I need to pick up a copy then. Thanks.
Amazing work! I’m glad I came across your channel. As a future physician, aspiring surgeon, and super hero fan who’s spent my childhood drawing super heroes that combine the best (in my opinion) abilities, and wolverine’s claws and healing were always included. I’d love to make a suggestion, just for the fun. Skeletal muscles work under tension. when they contract, the muscle body shortens along their longitudinal axis. to make this even more accurate, the muscle bodies of the forearm that are driving wolverine’s claws out of his forearm should probably be stretched thin and long while the claws are still within his forearms. The the muscle attachments or insertion points would be at wolverines wrist bones and and the proximal end of the claws. Therefore, when he decides to engage his claws, altogether or individually, the muscle bodies contract, pulling the clause forward, like a slingshot. In this configuration, the muscle bodies would be short and fat while the claws are out. Admittedly, this would probably look a little weird because you’d have hefty wrists bulges when the claws where out. Fun thought exercise I guess. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for this George! I love hearing from actual medical experts about how this would work. The way I designed it had to ultimately be aesthetically pleasing, but I think there are a number of better solutions.
Hope you've watched my most recent video, on Venom?
This is so cool! I’m really glad I found your channel!!
I am too Dan, thanks for joining up!!
You are a new Bob Ross! Inspiring motivation while detailing the innards of my favorite X-Man
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As a kid I loved Wolverine. For me he became the character that we know now in Uncanny X-Men #96. After he goes berserk and “kills” the demon he gives a monologue where he basically says “ Years of therapy and praying and I cut him to shreds without a thought and you know what? I’m glad”
Awesome Larry, love it. Hope you've subscribed and watched some of my other videos?
This just make me think a Six armed hybridized wolverine/Spider-man would be terrifying 😮
You hear that Marvel??
This was way more inspiring than I thought it would be…great vid!
Thanks Jesus!! Hope you enjoy my other vids too bud!
Came across this by accident and couldn't be more happy that I did. You gained yourself a subscriber. Awesome video!
Hooray Mid! Thanks for the subscription, and I hope you like my other videos!
That is so much awesome! Wolverine’s been my favorite comic book character ever since I picked up Uncanny X-Men #276 off the shelves of my local convenience store. I absolutely love this take on his anatomy! Amazing work! Sorry you flattened the image at the end 😢
Thank you Michael for sharing that memory, I love it! Hope you subscribed and got a chance to watch my other videos.
@@JonahLobeDraws subscribed and hit the notification bell! Will definitely be watching your content!
Nice work. If I may offer a bit of constructive criticism (and risk sounding pedantic), the muscles of the forearm that you show wouldn't extend his claws. If anything, they would retract them when flexed. When the body has oppositional action potential, it necessitates opposing muscles, ie. a flexor and extensor. The muscles you have illustrated would retract his claws when flexed. Perhaps you could create another wolverine anatomical art piece that shows both arms where the opposing groups would show simultaneously. In any case,, the art is impressive.
Yusef, no worries at all bro, and yes you are 100% correct. However, in all the research I did, I could not find any muscles that do what his claws do. I tried to design six sets instead of three, so that you would have thrust and pull, but it ended up looking like such a mess. Ultimately I had to just go with what looked simple and just trust that people would enjoy hopefully enjoy it and believe it. This was my issue throughout the making of the entire book! All of it is fake science, so I had to invent everything, even if it wouldn’t work. But I appreciate the comment, it shows that you were paying attention! Would love to know what you think about my other videos. Also, you should grab the book!!
@@JonahLobeDraws I loved the video! I think that if you'd want to have the function of extension and retraction of long, thin claws through the forearm, you'd need a long series of sphincters around a tough tendinous sheeth. Have the base of the claw be thicker than the rest to provide leverage for the sphincters, and it could work. Just need to coordinate the order they contract in to move the claw. It would be anatomically plausible, but it would not look as cool as your drawing.
@@Demonstormlord also a series of sphincter muscles might really turn people off to Wolverine hahahaha
The claws may not need opposing muscles since it's a piston movement instead of a joint. They would need tendons like a rubber band or slingshot though. Also, the sleeves for the claws would need to structural. Otherwise nothing would prevent the claws from moving around or even being ripped from his arms.
The sleeves could be slotted with the base of the claws being a tee. I agree the muscles should retract towards the wrist instead if the elbow and the opposing tendon be attached to the elbow.
@@JonahLobeDraws Actually, there are muscles that do exactly this--the costal muscles. There are essentially 3 sets, Normally, these for the chest wall are accessory muscles, and not used. However, they can be used in forced expiration and forced inspiration to pull the chest wall more than passive breathing or the intercostals typically provide.
I might use those as a basis for the extensors, since we know that these muscles (when pathologic) can cause paradoxical chest wall motion and rib motion independent of the chest wall.
That said, the attachment would have to be near the wrist in perhaps a circular pattern, with an insertion on the midpoint of the claw bones.
Alternatively, you might be able to look at esophageal or intestinal muscle movement for muscles that can actually push a bone--which may be a more plausible arrange for bones penetrating through other muscles (i.e., the peristaltic motion might actually shift the other muscles enough to avoid damage).
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Aww thanks JC! Appreciate the comment hopefully the follow. Dropping a new vid next week - STORM!
@@JonahLobeDraws makes me really appreciate what went into drawing these characters
Wolverine is my favorite, so thank you for making this video, i really enjoyed it !
My pleasure Hoodbaby! Have you watched my other videos? Just released one on Venom yesterday.
@@JonahLobeDraws nah, i just found your channel, will you make a Carnage video? that would be super cool
@@hoodbabyslime24 no wont make a carnage video, just venom. If I can afford to make another video, I’ll probably do Skrulls
I know this is opposed to establish Wolverine biology, but I actually thought recently, it would be interesting if the claws weren't actually always there under the skin, inside his arms. Instead, that they were a subconscious use of his healing factory, whereby he could force his bones to develop growths at precise points on from his hands; forcing the adamantium to contort around the growths. And when he "retracts" them, he's just reabsorbing the growths, healing himself.
I love that idea! Like Iron Man’s nanotech almost, but biological
Wolverine was humanisized because of his suffering in life men could relate to that. While hulk was turned into a immortal. But the truth is the real Wolverine the unstoppable killing machine was the only formable foe for the incredible hulk. Remember the more hulk got angry the more unstoppable he was... but the original Wolverine was the same way he slipped into berserker rage and could not be stopped.
Wolverine has actually killed hulk a few times in comics.
Yeah they are a well-matched duo!! I appreciate that they have very different backstories.
The hulk has knocked out wolverine in a berserker rage before.
Never heard about this, but since I am a fan of Wolverine and hardcover artbooks, I am definitely getting it❤
Wonderful, you’ll love it Pavel! I personally guarantee it.
Watching this drawing come together was very satisfying.
Excellent!
This is exquisite work. It's inspiring to watch it come together!
I feel your pain about the accidentally flattened Photoshop layers. It is a rug pulled from beneath the feet of our hearts. It is a sword of regret thrust through our gut. It is another awkward metaphor describing a sudden, hollow pain.
My *only* tiny nitpick is that ordinary muscles can't "push." They can only contract. Of course, given your incredible knowledge of anatomy you *know* this, but it was bothering me. The muscles at the base of his claws could retract them, but a reciprocal force would be required to pull them out. But! This drawing done so well - for a fictional character with fictional metal claws - that "ordinary" muscles need not apply. Perhaps the bundles you've depicted are a mutant combination of contracting muscle fiber and springy fascia do both jobs.
(sips geek tea) Please discuss.
You are 💯 correct, sir! The way I did this was certainly not the anatomically, correct way. Ultimately, as you say, I had to make sacrifices to the aesthetic gods. Let’s just call these mutant muscles, they are the first step in muscles that can punch, and that’s why the humans are afraid of them
Actually, the original idea was that Wolverine's claws were a part of his gloves. That was changed to him having cybernetic implants (which can be clearly seen in both the X-Ray in the first Fox X-Men film and the commemorative forearm bone that was sold as a collector's item when that film was released). The bone claws didn't exist until 2001 when the Wolverine Origins comic was released. Frank Miller was the genius who figured out that the claws should be flat like knives, which is obviously a totally different profile from the bone claws also making the bone claws really dumb (I won't even mention that they should probably be fingernails like Sabretooth has). The cybernetic idea won out most likely because having actual claws that extended from and retracted into the forearm would make his wrist basically useless as the claws would tear his wrist up on the way out, prevent it from healing properly while they were extended and then tear his wrist up again when they were retracted (the claws would have to extend beyond the wrist up into the forearm to be functional, otherwise he'd just rip the claws out through the back of his hand every time he slashed something).
I think the one claws date back to 1993/94. Magneto ripped out the adamantium, and everyone was REALLY surprised when Logan popped bone claws in the Danger Room a few issues later. Between his healing factor being overloaded, and the grommets being gone, popping the bone claws out was a bloody mess.
You do have a point that the organic claws would be probably be fingernail material rather than bone.
@@grimlock1471 I don't remember the earlier bone claws, but I could be wrong. I just remember thinking 'If the metal claws are flat, why are the bone claws round?' But, what I meant about the fingernails was that there are no animals that I can think of that have claw that extend from the back of their 'hands'. They have claws that extend from their finger tips (and toe tips to be exact). So, Wolverine having claws eject from the perfect spot for throwing a punch is a very strange evolutionary jump to say the least.
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Wow thank you Solemn! So glad you’ve been digging it, I put everything I have into these videos.
Hi.
I really liked your video. I'm just another adult that grew up watching X-Men and all kind of comic characters.
Just an observation: muscles are like elastic bands. They contract and relax. The contraction produces the strength. Muscles don't "push".
Just as example, the contraction of the biceps bends your arm. But for extend it again, you need the triceps contraction. Your biceps can't "push" for extend your arm. You need antagonist muscles.
So, for Wolverine's claws, you need two sets of muscles. Three that contract and drives out the claws. And another three that contract and retract them.
As I imagine them, he need six muscles:
* three for drive out (let's call them "A" muscles).
* three for retract (let's call them "B" muscles).
The six muscles are attached to the back end of the claws.
The other end of the three muscles for drive out ("A" muscles), are attached to some point in the wrist. They are extended and relaxed when the claws are inside.
And the other end of the three muscles that retract the claws ("B" muscles) are attached to some point near the elbow. They are contracted when the claws are inside, producing the strength for keeping the claws inside.
When Wolverine wants to drive out his claws, he relaxes "B" muscles and explosively contracts "A" muscles.
For retracting his claws, he does the opposite: he relaxes "A" muscles. And contracts "B" muscles.
That way, I think this hypothetical Wolverine's anatomy has more sense.
Anyway, I really enjoyed your video and your talent for drawing.
You are 100% correct! You are completely right, I originally tried to draw it with six muscles, however, and things very quickly became visually cluttered. As I am illustrating this book for mainstream audience, I had to focus on aesthetics, so I sort of just invented a new muscle structure for him. Hope you like my other videos too!
Very nice work! Thanks for giving us some insight on the workflow! By the way i really like your stylized anatomy, they kind of remind me of william rimmer! I was wondering which artists did you look up to to model your anatomical knowledge out of?
What a great comparison, thank you Karlson! And I'm so glad you enjoyed the video - stay tuned for my next one very soon. And when it came to other artists, my favorites have been Loomis (SO helpful), Hampton, and Bridgman! They're the ones I've turned to most, at least. What about you?
@@JonahLobeDraws Thanks for your reply! Ive always wanted to check out Loomis, but I've just been sticking to the artists you mentioned in addition to william rimmer's art anatomy!
@@JonahLobeDraws also looking to get your marvel anatomy book! Although im not too into marvel characters, they way you portray them is very interesting. Very cool and unique project, thank you for making this!
@@karlsoncheng4792 Thank you! I also wasn't THAT big into heroes before I started the project, but there were aspects of it that appealed to my more creative nature so I think you'll really appreciate those aspects. Or I hope so!
@@JonahLobeDraws Hey man, I'm sure it'll be amazing. By the way, I really look up to you as an artist and creative designer! May I ask how did you get to where you are today, and perhaps what are some significant milestones that you think someone following in your footsteps should be aiming for?
I think the armes need some actions lines. To show that it is in movement. Kinda like dragon ball.
That's a great idea, and precisely the sort of thinking I'll have to employ as I start working on my first original comic book this year. Stay tuned Esben!
I'm glad you ventured on this topic I love how Hugh looks in Logan ...cold eye look but full of emotions and guilt inside
Yeah he did a great job!
That’s some great artwork , all the attention too details , like the fibers of the muscles
Thanks Doug!
Hey Jonah can you please do the incredible hulk next, I'm really interested on how his anatomy works and beautiful art you never cease to amaze me 💯💯🔥🔥🔥
Thanks so much Jarmen! I've been meaning to make an episode with him, so I'll start drafting up something for him very soon ok? Thanks for subscribing and commenting!
@@JonahLobeDraws are you kidding, man you deserve thousands upon millions of Comments/Likes, this artwork is beautiful🔥🔥
@@jarmenedwards2437 Let's just hope those thousands find me!!
@@JonahLobeDraws do not worry my friend, they will come
I see, I click. Let's go!
I love the enthusiasm, thank you Gold!
I gotta say, the little tangent on Wolverine's relatability, and wishing you could do something like that? I totally get where you are coming from. I certainly have moments where i wish i could perform some superhuman feats for less than righteous purposes.
It's a real feeling! Thanks Deth for the comment. Hope you got to watch my other vids too!
This was amazing, THANK YOU !
Thank yo ufor watching Jonathon, I hope you've been watching my other videos too?
Great work Jonah, super proud of you❣️
Awww thank you Steven!! Really appreciate that brotha!
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This is a really beautiful piece of artwork. However, I do have a note for future projects like this. Muscles don't "push" they only "pull". Example: Biceps pull your arm "closed" while your triceps pull your arm back "open". That would mean that anatomically, your depiction of Wolverine can only retract his claws. HOWEVER, there could be a cool way of anatomically extending the claws using only pulling forces and it would be similar to some home made assassins creed hidden Blade mechanisms.
Imagine a knife with a rope tied to the end of its handle. Now put that knife into a tube handle down. The rope would now start at the base of the knife, go up the tube beside the knife, exit the top of the tube and dangle down along the side. Now imagine a set of muscles pulling down on the rope; the knife would pop up! Add in your muscles to retract the claws and boom! You have retraction and extension using actual muscle contractions!
You are 100% correct! As you may have read in other comments, though, I made these decisions, ultimately because they were the most attractive aesthetic way to go about it. Because this was done for Marvel, for a mass audience, I had to go with the attractive bit first!
@@JonahLobeDraws That makes total sense! As an aside, I hope at some point you do Deadpool because I had always envisioned that his skeleton and internals would likely resemble a horror show of fractures healing slightly off center, lots of bone growths from frequent bone remodeling, organs slightly askew from healing in the wrong place. Kind of like if someone went their crazy uncle Steve for all their major surgeries and medical procedures.
P.S. The "Contact Us" portion of your website seems to be missing a button to actually send the contact out. I went to send my appreciation for your work but there is no way to actually send it.
@@Bbeaucha88 lol gross - I love it! I DID do Deadpool for the book actually. Whether I dan actually make a Deadpool episode… I don’t know that I have the funds at the moment. Even after 250K people have watched this Wolverine video, only one person actually joined my Patreon 😔
7:43 I wish I would've found you 10 years ago I probably would've kept drawing. I want to get back into I just need to do it. This video was very encouraging.
And you're amazing I wish I could do this.
ThNk you CBP!! it’s never too late to get back into it. But thank you for the kind words!
Your artworks are amazing! This inspired me to draw again. Thanks dude! 💪 I'll be watching your videos from time to time. Hope to see Cyclops anatomy and how his optic blast works 😅
Amazing, I’m so glad! My videos are definitely designed to inspire. I hope you can join me on twitch one day too!
@@JonahLobeDraws hey I can see why not bro. Let's chat on your next livestream
@@johnanimation5132 done!!
I love this idea and your art.
Thank you Marcos! Have you watched my other videos then?
That is just incredible!
Thanks Omega! Hope you got to watch my other videos.
Fantastic video!! Loved your take on Wolverine, it’s so creative and awesome
Thanks Tacos! Super appreciate you watching and leaving a comment.
@@JonahLobeDraws Not at all! Thanks for reading and replying to basically all the comments. Really shows how much you care about the community! Can't wait for the next video
@@KillerTacos54 I am so grateful to this community! And I'm hoping to launch my own comic book later this year, so my community is really all I have, you know?
9:49 that meme was extremely well adapted into a reminder to subscribe 😄😄
As always, a very interesting and in-depth video. You remain a favourite creator and an artist of mine. Loved the video
Arved I'm glad you appreciated the joke!! Thanks so much for coming to hang out for a bit.
@@JonahLobeDraws i always come ASAP for your new content. I’ve also shared it with some friends :)
To be honest I think 🤔 you did an amazing job on an iconic character
Thank you Ever! You should be sure to watch my other videos as well. Also, I’m on Instagram!
DC already did an anatomy book. I own it. Your explanation of having a muscle per claw is genius. Nature is intelligence.
That book is published by the same publisher! It you liked the DC boo, def pick up Marvel Anatomy too!
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This honestly makes sense when you put it like this.
The idea of Logan being uncomfortable until his claws pop adds layers to his agression
I love Human Anatomy and Wolverine happens to be my favorite Marvel Superhero.
Thank you, RUclips algorithm for bringing me here.
Yayyy Sam! Glad you found me. Be sure to subscribe for a lot more like this!
Awesome work. This is definitely a book I would buy.
It’s out now! You can also order an autographed copy from my Big Cartel store 😊
That was such a bad ass intro! top quality video right here
Thanks bro!!!
This wonderful little short reminded me of recently got to relive my childhood power fantasy of being Wolverine
VR has a game called Battle Talent. A game where you can mod in functioning, retractable Wolverine claws and fight goblins and monsters
I have never had so much fun in my whole damn life
Oh my GOD I WANT TO PLAY THAT??
Woaaah that’s crazy how you start w that and end w that. That’s fire
Thabks Braezy - got another video soon, hope you subscribed!
@@JonahLobeDraws definitely subscribing
@@braezy8601 my man!!! 🙌🏻
I just found your channel through your symbiote video. Instant sub from me. Your content is so interesting and watchable, i look forward to watching your videos
Much love Snakey, and welcome!
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You’re about to have wayyyyyy more subscribers and views. Keep it up bro
Thanks for the kind words! Why do you say that btw? Do you know something I don’t know??