Broken TYM Tractor is Back! You won't believe what was wrong with it!
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- Broken TYM Tractor is Back! You won't believe what was wrong with it! Come along with me today as we go back and pick up the TYM tractor....after several weeks it's fixed and the problem was not TYM...it was me!! Hope ya'll enjoy!
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Kudos to my good man, you manned up and owned the issue, well done, love you brother😊
thanks Leon! I think we can all learn from each other's mistakes! Grandpa used to tell me "a fool has to learn from his own mistakes, a wise man learns from other's mistakes" Not that I'm a fool...but hopefully this helps out thousands of people!
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer well you undoubtedly have saved many from making the same mistake, thanks for letting the rest of us know what to look for.😊
Agree 100%. Good on SRF for having the integrity to acknowledge that the issues were largely training issues. That can happen to anyone, especially with a new-to-you machine that's using some new-to-you facilities, like these pollution control systems.
Mike Morgan nailed it when he calls the stuff diesel extortion fluid
Also known as government juice.
Well, after watching some of that lot, I will not be replacing my 1976 International Harvester 475 any time soon! It's about as complex as a shoe box and uses maybe slightly more Diesel than a dead sheep. I'm just waiting for the day when my work boots start flashing error codes and a scanner tells me that the DPF on my socks needs replacing!
I have 2 JD tractors, a 4310 and a 4610. I haven't had any major issues with them outside of the normal wear & tear. They are 17-20 years old. The 4310 came with the farm (foreclosure sale) and I bought the 4610 from a used dealer. I won't be replacing them anytime soon.
I like your chain storage idea!
This video harkens back to simpler times, traditions and hard work. Feeding the community is a full time honorable profession.
In this fast paced get it now world, this really hits home, emotionally, of how great those times were.
Thank you for taking us alone.
$1,124.00 was Reasonable for all of the work & extra parts! So what was engaged? Show us... Point to it!
Great that you and your neighbors help each other out.
That was good information I hope everyone there is safe from all the flooding going on in North Carolina and Tennessee.
Thanks for sharing what the issue was .
You bet
That's good stuff to know. thanks for the update.
Thanks for sharing and taking us on this journey.
I thought the total cost was going to be $1500. You now have peace of mind maintenance wise for a while.
Hope you doing ok , We been out of power and just wait on it come back on its bad hear and now doing ok,Lucky Edmonds in Candler NC
I'm glad its fixed. It's a great piece of machinery and a quality brand. It's helpful to share mistakes, because mistakes are important learning moments for others to grow and help prevent future frustration.
I agree with your position on the warrantee. Best to ride it out. 👍
Tractors are very special and powerful
Glad you got it fixed, also glad to know where that filter is located on mine , Thanks for info
That bill was the price of tuition. Lesson learned. I agree 100% as long as its under warranty leave well enough alone and just service it. Enjoy the big tractor and the beautiful farm and try to make money out there. Spend time with lady friend and enjoy life.
Well said!
Had same problem with lift arms on our New Holland Workmaster 40.The lever for the rear remotes was engaged. Always something simple creating problems
Great tip on the chain storage!
Josh, I had exactly the same problem with the 3 point on my New Holland Boomer 50. I called my dealer, listened to their suggestions and checked out what they suggested. I was going to make arrangements to haul the tractor to my dealer (roughly twice as far as your TYM dealer). As I was reinstalling the seat, I noticed one of the remote levers was in the forward position. I thought "it can't be that simple," but it was. It was the one that supplies continuous oil flow. I must have accidentally moved it forward as I was coming back to the house after spending hours grading a mile and a half of driveway and shared private road. I sheepishly called the dealer and explained my little faux pas. It apparently is almost a hydraulic diverter valve for the back of the tractor. The loader still seemed to work fine, thereby my confusion. Never too old to learn something new
yep...it happens doesn't it!
Reedy Creek is who we use for our TYM T474HC service. Matt is a good guy. You picked it up on a day my husband saw you coming up I 73 in Summerfield
nice! Yep...I as pleased with them for sure!
Not a bad price to have all the fluids and filters changed. My New Holland is an open platform so they power washed it also and blew out the air filters. Mine does not have the regen system.
Glad you fixed, got it fixed. Ouch far as bucks lost pretty expensive day for you.
Some days learning new stuff is expensive though
Yepper
I really like the chain storage idea! Costly (lack of) maintenance mistake? Been there. Mine was the roof of a travel trailer. I parked it outside, uncovered, and did not inspect the Dycor (special roof caulk). Roof leak, delaminated wall, expensive. Lesson learned. Thanks for sharing so others can learn from your mistake.
When you pulled out of Reedy Creek Tractor, my house was behind you on that next curve. If I had known you were in the area, I would have stopped by. I bought a Kioti CK2610 from them, a lot based on the location to my house, plus the Kioti has done well, and I had a good experience with Reedy Creek Tractor.
oh cool!
I would have thought that somewhere in the owner's manual in a section about maintenance, they would point out that DEF filter and the importance of changing it under those circumstances, especially if they knew about that already. My Kubota manual lists every filter, location, and how often to change or inspect. But we all live and learn with our equipment and you have shown me just how good the TYM is when I didn't think much of it before.
DPF, egr, and Def systems are nothing but trouble. I have a few mechanic buddies that basically stay in biz just by servicing these systems. I have deleted every diesel i have and have zero issues.
I just got a weird code on my shovel...something about a DEF filter?
Love that chain storage trick
Josh many of those DEF filters are Bosch and are a common filter on many different manufactures. Look at the filter and see has a Bosch number actually on the filter itself. If it does you can buy the same Bosch filter online much cheaper than the OEM pricing.
I'm glad you got your tractor back, Josh.
Life is a lesson. Learn something new every day. So on, and so forth. Blah. Blah. Blah. This is a prime example of what happens when your government gets way too big and two powerful. New tractors, New trucks, new TVs. New filters, new fluids, new rules, new laws.
Man it’s crazy to see how far your channel has come. I remember the journey to 1K
yessir...this place has really come along nice and it's amazing how much progress has been made!
I had a switch short on 3rd func of T494 and that made my 3 point inop
I was just at Reedy Creek Friday to get a pallet fork attachment. Nice folks.
nice
Hey Josh thank you for the video and I'm happy everything worked out for you woo
LOL, I've done it to mine... It drove me crazy trying to figure why my lift arms wouldn't move. My Son kept telling me to check the cab hydraulic levers, "but I knew that was not the problem!" He got in and found the detent arm engaged. Doh!
As for the def... I hear the process is simple and no more soot being sucked into the engine for a re-burn. That's what I'm hearing... wink, wink
I like the chain storage idea
We knew it was the nut loose behind the wheel! 🤣Life is expensive!
As a 75 year old man I've seen a lot of crap going into the environment and doing environmental clean ups for 20 years of my working life but that DEF fluid gets me having to stop and run trucks or equipment just putting crap into the air just nonproductive time in ones life and what goes up must come down onto farmers fields and then you have to get rid of. I did notice you go through your TYM manual and it didn't say anything about that filter or you skipped over that section
That is an awesome tractor.
Now you, and we, all know, about the DEF and DEF filter, and keeping it fresh and running regularly.
1100 bucks and 270 hours. Sounds like if a person gets a tractor such as this, they ought to consider setting aside about 4-5 bucks / hour, or perhaps a bit more, of run time into a savings account for their maintenance fund. Not bad, I suppose, given the capability of that machine.
This is why I like older tractors no pcm to shut me down.
I wish my tractor repair bill was only 1124 dollars, mine was over 7300 to repair the fuel injectors on a 70hp Kubota.
Live and learn. So much high-tech nowadays. Who needs it? I sure don't!!!
It looks like a very big tractor. And a very intimidating one to work on. Like a lot of tools I have you just about have to get on line and "go to school" on repairing things. The good news is that when you retire, you can get you a part time job at the TYM store helping customers.
I thought the same. Pretty good deal
dis-ban the EPA and their regulations. The bosch 3 point is used on my AGCO tractor. I re calibrated also.
If buying a new tractor just stay under 75 hp to avoid def.
You will have a dpf but they seem to hold up many hours before you need to pressure wash them out , like 3000 hours.
Ls mt774 looks to be the cats ass in the new 75 horse category. Sell both tyms and get the one LS. that’s all you’ll ever need to handle all your tasks with ease.
Things like MF 4707 don't have DPG. Can just tune it.
That trailer from Hudson Brothers, they are on hwy 218 in Indian Trail NC. I grew up about a mile from them.
The John Deere dealership in my town will not work on the tractors if the DEF system has been deleted. They have been fined 2 in the last years by the EPQA for working on deleted emission system.
If you had a shop do all that work to a 4WD pickup…axle fluids, oil, filters, battery…would have pushed 400 or 500 bucks. Then when you figure what your time is worth if you’d try to do yourself, it’s really not a bad deal.
Had a McCormick that wouldn't raise the 3 pt arms. Operator had stored roll of paper towels on the 3rd remote and it was just enough pressure to stop fluid flow.
I have 10 tractors from 12-90hp they all run and do what they are supposed to do. the oldest is 1948 the newest is a 1999. and all of them combined cost me probably 25% of what that new TYM costs. if you can read and follow directions in the genuine service manuals and have some tools and do the proper maintenance in the operator manuals they last a long long time of trouble free operation. but to each his own some like having a brand shiney new latest model. others enjoy using old time American iron classics.
Yep....the nice thing about old tractors is that they're simple to work on....the nice thing about newer machines is they are comfortable and reliable in most cases. Money is replaceable, but time isn't my friend. I choose to have a newer machine because I enjoy the comfort, reliability and dependability. I have some older machines and you'll start seeing them in more content over time.....but riding high up in that cab is sure nice....v/s maintaining 10 older machines
Some repairs might not be able to happen in a Liscened shop because they could lose their company permits and be fined as well. Some truckers have been fined as well as the shops that have done the work . At this time you should be fine to use your tractor for a good amount of time before you start to have problems again . Leave it stock !
A DEF delete is in order. A lot of guys in Texas do it due to the DEF system being too much of a hassle. I operate heavy equipment, we love getting older equipment that doesn't require DEF, it's far less of a headache. Even when being used, DEF will crystalize and jam up it's own system. I have seen one machine require 2 new def pumps in one year and that machine is used daily. We have a 60 gallon tank on the back of a truck that we fill with def for the equipment, we have been through 3 pumps and several nozzles. It's just not worth it.
With Chevron being overturned we may see a lot more progress on deletes
Simply put, our elected representatives need to get gumint out of our homes and off our farms, or we'll all fu*king starve!
@@CaptTony107 what makes you think that isn't the plan?
@@CaptTony107seems obvious what theyre doing!
Reason I bought a T574.
Say NO to government control
Check out the speed binder. I'm using those now.
1,200 dollars-guess! Woo! Was 100 bucks off! Feeling like a Controversy comment. They don't even give you the courtesy of telling you you can piss in the DEF storage tank! haha!!
Diesel extortion fluid, that's funny. Glad your back big T!
John Deere took over this area years ago, not due to quality of equipment, but quality of service. Can't say they've held that rank through this day, but did at said time.
JD is being sued over the maintenance issue and I hope they lose big time with the attitude they seem to have.
Yep, I got Kubota or JD and that’s it for 100 miles
Good job
I still drive a 95 Dodge ram 3500 Cummins diesel. Mechanical injection.
Just say NO to government control
Good morning !!!
🌹🌹🌹🌹
I love watching your videos so much l love tractor 🚜
Glad you like them!
hopefully the maintenance manual indicated all needed filters for proper functions. here is an example of advancements in controls that cause chaos for the operators and money spent probably not planned for recommendations for utilizing older equipment might be a great consideration. does KISS still apply when your sweating and tired with work yet to be done?
Once your warranty is gone, i would say good bye to the DEF part of it. It is something for you to spend extra money on that you don’t need.
GREAT JOB 👍
I like the jug trick
Well Josh, I wouldn't beat yourself up about this or anyone else for that matter. This is still relatively new technology and so the collective experience in such matters is still shallow at best. Thanks to people like yourself however, we can learn and gradually this will become common knowledge. I am against deleting this system as it is important in ensuring that we all breathe cleaner air and it helps to keep diesel engines on the roads, in fields and any construction site where heavy plant equipment is needed. I always note the difference the 'Nox regulations' made to Tokyo. Former Governor Shintaro Ishihara, an ultra conservative if ever there was one, introduced these regulations which is essentially what AdBlue/DEF is all about. Within a relatively short time of introducing these regulations, the vegetation in the eentral reservations and on the verges were no longer dying and a day out in Tokyo no longer meant that your face was black once you returned home. It does make a huge difference, especially where there is heavy traffic. I drive a 3 litre diesel Land Rover and whilst the AdBlue (DEF) is a bit of a nuisance, it also isn't difficult and neither is it ridiculously expensive. Especially as diesel is the cheapest fuel here and if I were forced to have to own a petrol engine, then my costs would rise significantly. Many farmers use a tractor to scrape out manure and slurry from their cowsheds. That is an enclosed environment and why would anyone not want their cattle to breathe cleaner air? Also, many of us have experience of sitting behind a smoking lorry or bus in a tunnel or going up a steep hill and have closed the vents on our own vehicle to prevent the smelly, horrible air from entering. DEF has helped to limit that unpleasant experience and so it clearly has lots of advantages. Does the system need to improve? Probably it does and if oil companies and car manufacturers can find a way of including it in the fuel itself at the refinery, then all the better. Perhaps a synthetic version that doesn't petrify as quickly as the current more natural DEF would be an advancement too.
Josh I have to say that was only about half of what I was guessing. Still a pricey fix nevertheless.
That's why my newest tractor is a 4850 john deere . No Def and no computer
If you paint ends of one chain one color and ends of another chain another color it helps with knowing which chain ends to grab if some stores them in 5 gallon buckets
much easier to tote one chain at a time in a oil container than 5 chains in a bucket, but I do think you've got a great idea painting the ends!! I may use that soon!! If you can pick up a 5 gallon bucket of chains...you are a bigger man than me bhahahhaaha!
@StoneyRidgeFarmer no lol but I just leave the bucket in the mini truck and haul them around that way.
So basically $1500 and a day for a $10 filter and 20 minutes to change. Sounds about right. That's progress.
so $1,100 for everything. $200 for a battery, $200 worth of filters and extra filter I went home with, labor, oil and diagnostics. The full service of the machine is expensive on a large machine like this. Battery was the biggest expense
For what you had done I figured about 2 grand. Probably would have been at least that at my Kubota dealer at 150 per hr.
And idk if you still have that 7.3 power stroke but I have a 95 f350 and I’ve hauled a John Deere 5100e no problem on a 32ft gooseneck
Fair enough, everyday is a learning day.
Warranty won’t be needed anywhere near as much without all that regulatory emissions crap. This goes to show even with the warranty it doesn’t cover everything and you could still be on the hook for thousands because of unnecessary equipment maintenance.
I guess you did what most of us do when getting a new machine. We look at the manual, see that it's thick and throw it in the glove box (in a car at least). Then we look in it when we have to do something that's not perfectly logical. I know I didn't look in the car manual until I thought it was time to change the air filters, and especially the filter for the cabin ventilation. Turned out I had been hunting after it for no reason as there wasn't one. Not kidding there wasn't a filter for the ventilation. In the case of a tractor I imagine it's about the same. think it's time to change the filters for the first time? look in the book to see that you don't miss one. Fuel filter? I don't know as I have never swapped one. But air filter on the intake and oil filter is pretty much standard and there is usually no problem to find them without diving into the manual. That mean you have probably 90% of that manual unread and are quite happy with that. Now suddenly you have to not only keep enough urea in the DEF tank, but you have to change the filter? I certainly wouldn't know unless they had it in big red letter on a short service list, and probably not even then.
68 yr. old here, now retired from a 3rd gen. dairy farm in New Hampshire. My grand father going from a 3 horse team to Farmall tractors. W series, my father continued on with Farmall H and M models, which I drove. My older brother, myself and my nephew continued farming. Up sizing to Farmall 856, and 544 models. We then changed to Case, 1030, traded to 1070 and 1370 models. Added a Ford County 1164 , Next traded the ford to change to Case IH 7120, moved up to ? 7250 ? Can't recall the model. Income wasn't covering cost's,
dissolved the farm. My older brother, his son, and I still live on the farm property. Now we all own Kubota tractors. Under 100 hp, they can't be beat!
Today, farming, I would own Kubota for under 100 hp. and Case/IH. John Deere makes very good tractors as well, though they do not let the farmers repair them, and are planning to build an assembly plant in Mexico!
Anyone running a modern tractor needs two tractors. One to work, and one to sit at the repair shop for 1-3 months waiting in line behind the other 30 broken down def tractors. Then just swap them out.
God knows we all have those days! And Miss Misery loves company! At least for what you get out of that tractor, I'd say $1100 was almost a bargain. I just had a local electrician give me a price of $2800 to run a new 110v line from my house to the irrigation controller/well pump area. It's a good run of wire, so he blamed the high price on increased Romex pricing. Really? GMaFB!
Josh. Great video. You know what they say. RTFM!!
Sometimes I wonder if these companies have lobbyist paying politicians to pass these laws. Because the more software and sensors these tractors have the more money these companies are making.
Of course your warranty experience is great, but will mine be?Just bought a TYM today . They know you are still making videos about them
Well...I honestly don't think they care who I am...if they did they would have sent out a mobile mechanic. I'm still very happy
Have to wait until your warranty is up.
I agree
That's not bad I was looking somewhere in the 6000.00 area.
At least the battery was a good deal. I paid over two hundred bucks to replace mine in a 2018 Nissan Frontier. I own a 2020 JD 1025R and I dread the day I have to take it there for any kind of service that I can't do myself. Fortunately, I have no Def thingamajig on it, but one problem I did have while under warranty ( Thnk Gd) would have cost me $1800, most of which went for labor. You have an ungodly amount of equipment on your farm. How do you find time for it?
Better ween them nice looking calf's soon. I heard the market has been falling the last few weeks
Def filter on my case ih is good for 1200hrs. So what kind of crappy parts is tym using? Def is clean from the jug. U don't work in dust. So these repairs with only 270hrs is insane!
Walmart DEF!! That's the issue!!
If you get diagnostic tools for your tractor, you might be able to make a little money locally by diagnosing other farmers TYM tractors to save them the drive to a dealer.
live and learn
Just trying to be helpful in Indiana and Michigan if they caught you doing what you did you would probably be fined. You would need a usdot number and inspection on the truck for sure. I owned a trailer dead exactly like that one, except it was dually wheels. The problem was the weight of the trailer and the weight of the tractor combined with the weight of the truck exceeded the ghost combined vehicle weight rating for the truck. I know a lot of guys were just ignoring that but years back they were really getting on people for those kind of things the solution was to go to a b rated truck something like a box truck size. Hope you don't have to deal with that for anytime too soon it's obvious it was about the money but I do know it was nice having a FLD 60 that add plenty of weight so if things went bad it was the truck that can hold down the trailer and the tractor from going everywhere. Love the chain idea yes those kind of binders are absolutely the best although they take a little bit longer they do not pop like the other ones and end up on the side of the road. Also you can get it just right not too loose or too tight. You have a really nice tractor that is very easy and nice to do your crop work which means you can sit in it and be out for all day. The exhaust is probably far better and with that cab you're not sucking it up like an older tractor setup. Allows you a lot more time in the field. In 10 years you'll probably have all of the issues figured out and the electronics won't be a problem. Just takes time and people figuring things out. Thanks for sharing I don't believe the bill was excessive either considering the cost of everything nowadays. Certainly with the price of fuel you did well hauling at yourself.
in North Carolina we pay for weight. The Ram has a 37,090 lb payload so we're well below weight on that. Farm tags in NC allow us to run farm equipment up and down the roads, and again we are taxed on potential payload that we set at the DMV. Farm vehicles not for hire aren't considered commercial according to my resources
I feel like you could hear a hydrulic wine, when a lever is pushed and nowhere for the fluid to go it puts a load on the motor and makes noise! thats how it is on my new holland.
it was barely audible...but it was going on that's for sure
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer thanks for replying. love your farm.
Your unicorn dodge can pull the tractor fine you just need the proper gooseneck trailer not a bumper pull
probably would
I don't name my cattle.
I call them by their ear tag number.
Had a #3 hamburger meal yesterday.
When my girls were children I called them names like hamburger. Keeps things in perspective
I don't find it hard to wrap my head around a name v/s a number. Either way you can become attached to the animals, but the reality is that they are here to serve us as nutrition for our bodies and everything will someday perish....just the reality that most folks are very sheltered from nowadays isn't it
How are you after the storm?
The bull crap is out of the way now. Run that tractor, and have fun.
Don't complain about the distance to your TYM dealer....... My TYM dealer is 175 miles away from me or 350 round trip!!😪
I have a 20 year old 2WD Kubota and I would like to upgrade to a 4WD with a cab, but I can't bring myself to buy a tractor with regen or DEF. I can afford the tractor, but I don't think I could afford the maintenance.
Best thing u can do is to delete all of that def junk
Yeah, my guess was around a grand. Well, be thankful it ONLY cost you $1100 to learn proper maintenance of your tractor.
yep....I agree. I did have them do some extra stuff and a new battery which was the biggest item...but I agree. Education cost money doesn't it lol
Roll that beautiful bean footage
After the warranty is over first thing I’d do is delete it 🤫🤫. The government don’t run that bs on any of there stuff
Farming ain’t cheap! It seems to cost as much as you make farming and from being monetized, which I would like to learn more about. How to get monetized on RUclips and other platforms? What was your history like? How much (ballpark) can a monetized RUclipsr expect to make in order to keep my farm a float and maybe make a tractor or equipment payment??? Thanks Josh.