Are EV Drivers Blocking Petrol Pumps? The British Dilemma! | Q&A

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  • @irnbru5725
    @irnbru5725 20 дней назад +13

    Have been watching your channel for about a year watch most of your videos and I'm going to get me first ev in the new year all thanks to you keep up the good work

  • @Rufus2005f1
    @Rufus2005f1 20 дней назад +3

    Thanks for your hard work this year fellas, I really looking forward to your video popping up each afternoon. Merry Christmas!

  • @ImplyDods
    @ImplyDods 20 дней назад +7

    My local Aldi has 4 cheap ( only 11kw though ) chargers which i use when shopping. Almost every time i go at least two bays are iced. Today was a new low as one of the bays was blocked by an Audi bev who couldn't even be arsed plugging in. The bays are on the opposite side of the car park to the entrance so he got to have driven past at least 100 empty spaces to get there. What a complete tool.

    • @mikebreen2890
      @mikebreen2890 19 дней назад +1

      EV drivers blocking EV charging places by using them as EV parking are the ultimate tool.

  • @stevenpilfold9125
    @stevenpilfold9125 20 дней назад +11

    I recently brought a Tesla model 3, I have found your channel very helpful, well done Dave.

  • @tonychallinor6721
    @tonychallinor6721 20 дней назад +12

    You describe my view of hybrids perfectly Dave. Added to that is the additional cost and complexity of 2 systems with additional servicing and costs

    • @benholroyd5221
      @benholroyd5221 14 дней назад

      I think hes being a little unfair.
      If you can't charge at home, and you dont know the charging landscape, buying a full EV to find out whether or not it will work for you is a big risk.
      And regardless of the legitimacy, people are going to have range anxiety.
      Your right, from an engineering POV, its over engineered. But from a batteries are new and expensive POV, they make sense.

  • @radiotowers1159
    @radiotowers1159 20 дней назад +2

    Merry Christmas guys and thanks

  • @PercyRanger
    @PercyRanger 20 дней назад +1

    I’ve lost count how many people I’ve talked to who have recently bought a PHEV and not understood the pro’s and con’s. I don’t think I’ve spoken to any who use the electricity as the primary energy, they all looked towards the battery being the backup. Once it’s explained and the benefits of BEV most are quite shocked. I think car dealers are pushing PHEV’s for some reason. Great Channel.

    • @reiniernn9071
      @reiniernn9071 20 дней назад +1

      The reason will be: They get much more maintenance to do with a PHEV than with a BEV.
      More money to make.

  • @russellgilchrist3951
    @russellgilchrist3951 19 дней назад

    Just a thanks to you from your video the other day saying about Gridserve giving cheaper or free charging this week. Well just fully charged today for free. 👍👍

  • @PaulSavage-c7p
    @PaulSavage-c7p 20 дней назад +4

    You mentioned that you went to the show at Harrogate. Just found out that Harrogate has been cancelled! I went to both the Harrogate and Farnborough shows and thought that Harrogate was the better of the two shows. What are your thoughts on this?

  • @kensmith8701
    @kensmith8701 20 дней назад +2

    PHEV have their place. The big push was/is on reducing tailpipe emissions espically in built up areas. Being able to go in ev mode to cover town driving is good. Then hybrid mode for out of town driving. They make sense as a transition. It is understandable why range anxiety would be an issue for short range/town BEV's. The Government also drive behaviour. BIK rates favoured diesel then phev and now bev. Some company drivers are only reimbursed hmrc fuel rates. This can make longer company trips where public charging is required not cost effective as the employee will pick up any costs above the hmrc rate. However with a phev espically over 2.4litre there is potential money to be made which can cancel out higher BIK on phev's. Considering that the company car market drives a lot of new and then second hand sales, you can see why phev's are selling strong. We need better joined up thinking. I have found no issues in general with public charging. I am a non tesla ev driver but do use tesla chargers. They work, are easy to use and the pricing is good. I have to use the app, there is a delay as a payment is taken prior to delivery and no plug and play. Ionity works through the manufacturer supplied card and is plug and play. Gridserve and osprey offer a good charging experience with convenient chargers but are more expensive. Overall my EV experience has been positive.

  • @stephenbagwell8275
    @stephenbagwell8275 18 дней назад

    The BP app can be tricky. I’ve found that if you type in the number on the device it doesn’t work but choosing it on the map does. I use one of 16 AC chargers at Marygate Car Park in York which are 39p - good for my PHEV when I had one

  • @williampaulrogers9583
    @williampaulrogers9583 20 дней назад +4

    Hi Dave, thanks for all of your videos. I watch most of them. I appreciate your forthright approach. Happy Christmas to you and your team 👍🎄

  • @ClarkHillary
    @ClarkHillary 20 дней назад +5

    I'm glad you made this video it reminds me of my transformation from a nobody to good home, $34k monthly and a good daughter full of love

    • @PandaJames-nm5sf
      @PandaJames-nm5sf 20 дней назад

      $75k biweekly changed my mindset and behavior, my goals, my family and I've to say this video has inspired me a lot!!!!

    • @HenryMat-oj9pg
      @HenryMat-oj9pg 20 дней назад

      wow this awesome I'm 41 and have been looking for ways to be successful, please how??

    • @PandaJames-nm5sf
      @PandaJames-nm5sf 20 дней назад

      No one likes market risk, but without longer retirement, taking on risk is often a necessary evil to compensate for inflation

    • @HenryMat-oj9pg
      @HenryMat-oj9pg 20 дней назад

      My wife is willing to work for another 5 years if needed. Are we in good shape? Will we be okay if I begin withdrawing from Social Security when I'm 41 and my wife is 40? Should we hire a financial planner to help us navigate this?

    • @PandaJames-nm5sf
      @PandaJames-nm5sf 20 дней назад

      These are crucial questions for a financial planner. I met mine at a NYSE summit, and with her help, my wife and I reallocated our $1.7M portfolio between a traditional IRA and a brokerage account. She's been making investments with our approval and has helped us recover twice our losses. We're holding steady and carefully navigating more markets

  • @MrDAVIDATKIN
    @MrDAVIDATKIN 20 дней назад +2

    Thanks for the channel Dave, 1 of only 2 channels I've hit the notification bell on. I can't say I agree with everything you say but a great channel nonetheless. Have a fantastic Christmas both of you.

  • @stevelongden7368
    @stevelongden7368 20 дней назад +12

    All charging stations should have canopies, ideally with solar panels on top

    • @paulweston1106
      @paulweston1106 20 дней назад +3

      In a car park that would encourage owners of ICE cars to park their car under the canopy.
      I think all car parks should be completely covered by a canopy with solar PV so even if it isn't used for charging EV it is used for generation.

    • @IDann1
      @IDann1 20 дней назад +3

      You're making too much sense 😮

    • @djtaylorutube
      @djtaylorutube 20 дней назад +3

      Alternate perspective: all charging should be as seamless as a Tesla at a supercharger. Just plug in and walk away. No apps, no card, no faff, no time needed to stand in the rain. Wouldn't that be better for everyone, with any car at any charger?

    • @kensmith8701
      @kensmith8701 20 дней назад

      It is not seamless if you charge a non tesla at a tesla supercharger. I can charge seamlessly at Ionity though.

    • @djtaylorutube
      @djtaylorutube 20 дней назад

      @@kensmith8701 I agree, at the moment. My point is that surely the objective of having seamless charging is more beneficial than a canopy? ISO1118 exists, it's up to the vehicle and charge equipment manufacturers to get on with it.

  • @markredmond1746
    @markredmond1746 20 дней назад +2

    Always watch and listen. Great tips for a new EV convert.

  • @paulweston1106
    @paulweston1106 20 дней назад +10

    You went with matching shirts, Dave just needs the matching hairstyle now.

    • @CliffTopz
      @CliffTopz 20 дней назад +5

      I vote for the spikey hair, come on Dave😂

  • @paulmellish9785
    @paulmellish9785 20 дней назад +1

    Hi Dave i cant charge at home and i have no problems at all just charge it every time i go shopping keeping it topped up and one big charge a week from one of our local charges a bit more expensive than if i could charge at home but no more than what petrol would cost plus i get the other benefits of driving electric smooth quick and comfortable i do think however that’s its time for the government to start thinking about people like me if they want more to go electric and make it fairer like cutting VAT and sorting out the general prices etc as there is a lot of folk who are in the same situation as me who will probably not have the confidence because of these issues its going to be a big nut to crack i think.

  • @stephenbagwell8275
    @stephenbagwell8275 18 дней назад

    Driving a PHEV from Manchester to Blackpool I would drive to the motorway on battery then use the petrol engine saving some battery for driving around the town

  • @GruffSillyGoat
    @GruffSillyGoat 20 дней назад

    Dave, the average battery size for PHEVs and BEVs at the start of 2024 increased to 23kWh for a PHEV and 64kWh for a BEV. This has continued to trend upwards over the year but new stats are not due until Q1 2025. The average Hybrid battery size much smaller at 1.3kWh. Many PHEVs can be set in a mode to charge the battery via the ICE, hence can operate a bit like an extended range hybrid.

  • @stephenbagwell8275
    @stephenbagwell8275 18 дней назад

    I recently saw a VW PHEV parked next to a Be.EV AC charger that it could’ve used

  • @stephenbagwell8275
    @stephenbagwell8275 18 дней назад

    Most Tesla chargers are at the rear passenger side of the parking space when you reverse in to it

  • @JoeAcarnley
    @JoeAcarnley 20 дней назад +5

    I have come across taxi drivers pulling up outside my local premier inn parking up in the charging bay that anyone with a ev has to use it and the taxi wasn't a ev.

  • @S0me0ne_S0meWhere_SaysHi
    @S0me0ne_S0meWhere_SaysHi 20 дней назад

    I also think that phev's are being missold! I did not realise until relatively recently that a PHEV does not generally charge the battery when driving unlike a HEV.

  • @mondotv4216
    @mondotv4216 20 дней назад

    26:44 The Nissan LEAF always had a BMS. I think you mean they had no thermal management and relied on air cooling (and they are still like that). If you plugged them in and charged them to 100% and they continued charging they'd have been bursting into flames everywhere. That clearly didn't happen - the BMS stopped the charge @ 100% (probably a little earlier because EVs keep a reserve at the top and bottom of the battery). They failed early due to the lack of thermal management not from overcharging.

  • @Silpophow69
    @Silpophow69 19 дней назад

    Hi Dave 👋 Merry Christmas too your team 🎅🎄🦃🎉🎁🍾Dave if i go on a long journey, which charging network should I look out for ?
    I have a Volvo EX30 extended range 🙌🙌🙌#greatvideos

  • @S0me0ne_S0meWhere_SaysHi
    @S0me0ne_S0meWhere_SaysHi 20 дней назад +3

    It's not capacitive charging. It's inductive charging 😜. Just sayin 😊.

  • @paddylogan13
    @paddylogan13 19 дней назад

    I wonder if wireless EV charging is really practical. At speeds above 30kW, the EMF will be potentially harmful and will require shielding to be put in place. Is this likely to be cost-effective?

  • @stephenbagwell8275
    @stephenbagwell8275 18 дней назад

    I think the new Golf GTE PHEV wouldn’t need to be plugged in every day and it has a CCS plug now too. What Car got 73 miles EV only range

  • @ianv5533
    @ianv5533 20 дней назад +4

    Steady, some EV drivers are just as disrespectful. Some car parks don't charge for parking if you are charging. I've seen this twice now where crafty EV drivers park plug in and are not actually charging. Once was in Oban on a Charge Place Scotland charger which I wanted to use, and another time I witnessed it in our local town car park BP Pulse - plugged in and walked away.

  • @bshah4831
    @bshah4831 20 дней назад

    I agree 85p per kWh is a scam to make EV ownership less attractive. Is it surprising that both BP and Shell have very high prices? I assumed that hybrids because of their complexity would be less reliable in the long term.

  • @Jaw0lf
    @Jaw0lf 20 дней назад +8

    Hybrids are a bizarre answer to the supposed problem. Carrying extra weight, working either as petrol or battery seems crazy. Those that find they can do many trips on just the battery actually then could have a potential of their petrol turning bad.
    Love these chats where Jonas can speak as the nay sayer or clarify the response. Wishing you all a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
    Thanks for the shout out and looking forward to catching up with you!

    • @Un-Apologetic
      @Un-Apologetic 20 дней назад +1

      You can use the petrol engine anytime. Most PHEVs have a range of less than 50 miles on electric.
      We use ours for weeks on electric but I use the engine once a week just to keep it running for a bit.
      When on petrol it's returning around 47 mpg which for a 1.6l petrol weighing 2080kg that's not bad.
      The beauty is that you can go on very long journeys and not have to worry about the dire charging infrastructure.
      Once you get to your destination back onto electric.

    • @Jaw0lf
      @Jaw0lf 20 дней назад

      @@Un-Apologetic Pleased it is working well for you!

    • @stevecoinitin7521
      @stevecoinitin7521 20 дней назад

      I think the point of Hybrids were, they are not for very local driving, probably 20+ miles commutes and longer journeys.
      It's when you hit a bottle neck town and it takes 10 minutes to travel a mile, is where the battery is used and no exhaust emissions. That's about the only downside of a Petrol/Diesel, when stuck in traffic.

    • @mondotv4216
      @mondotv4216 20 дней назад

      Clearly you weren't around in 2014.

    • @mikebreen2890
      @mikebreen2890 19 дней назад

      ​@@Un-ApologeticWhile there is always room for improvement, to describe the current infrastructure as dire is a serious exaggeration. I just did 370 miles in a relatively low range EV And all four charges were faultless and no going out of my way. Expensive compared to home of course, but still on a par with petrol.

  • @chrishanslip6443
    @chrishanslip6443 19 дней назад

    Well at least you tell some truth about EV, one u-tuber sead on his channel his EV battery has lost nothing in 4 years, just plain lies, but I'm starting to like you because your telling the truth mostly lol.

  • @johnmorrill5637
    @johnmorrill5637 20 дней назад +1

    I disagree that it doesn't matter where the charging port is. It should be on the street side. Which means different things in the UK than the US. But for people who do not have off-street parking, you shouldn't dangle chords across the car and out into the roadway. The charge port should be on the street side.

    • @solentbum
      @solentbum 20 дней назад +1

      The LEAF and several other BEVs have the charge port at the front, the perfect place for whatever side the charger is and for cars towing a trailer it is perfect also.

    • @ViscountCharles
      @ViscountCharles 19 дней назад +1

      It also matters a LOT if you intend to park your car in a single garage overnight.
      Right now I'm trying to choose between two cars - and thanks to the £40k VED supplement, one vehicle ends up being quite a bit more than the other. But the expensive car has the charge port where I could get at it; the cheaper vehicle has the charge port in a location that means it would have to be left outside to charge!
      And I think that's going to be the deciding factor when choosing between two quite similar cars.

    • @solentbum
      @solentbum 19 дней назад

      @@ViscountCharles You can get long charging cables for you home charger to reach right round the car. I changed my short 4m cables for 10 mtr cables to reach any part of my Forecourt. It might be a suitable solution for you. (Search EV Cables on Google)

  • @mondotv4216
    @mondotv4216 20 дней назад

    One thing I'd say that you got wrong there is if you can't drive a plug in vehicle because charging is inconvenient/impossible, then the next best option is not full ICE but just an HEV (soft hybrid) as that will be the most efficient and least polluting ICE vehicle. I think the hysteria over PHEVs not being plugged in is overblown and it must be a uniquely UK problem. It's one of the flaws with incentives on PHEVs. We didn't have those incentives in Australia, so most people who bought a PHEV (like I did back in 2014) went in with at least some idea of what they were buying and the advantages of a PHEV. The "lack of education" argument is pretty flimsy too. You just got a brand new car - how hard is it to watch a YT video or RTFM to find out you're supposed to plug in your "Plug in Hybrid vehicle" (it's right there in the name). Maybe the "lack of education" started a little earlier than a company car acquisition...

  • @PeterHartland
    @PeterHartland 20 дней назад +1

    IONITY does that with my Mach-E. Just plug in & it charges my account

    • @oliver90owner
      @oliver90owner 20 дней назад

      Better to charge the car?🙂 Sorry, couldn’t resist.🙂

    • @PeterHartland
      @PeterHartland 20 дней назад

      @@oliver90owner LOL

  • @paulhenshall7849
    @paulhenshall7849 20 дней назад +2

    Happy Christmas to you 2 .
    If your in my patch of the woods come and get your Xmas gift. A go on my solar powered motor boat ( foc) .
    Happy Xmas and a great new year.
    Paul
    Matlockbathboats

  • @ComeJesusChrist
    @ComeJesusChrist 19 дней назад

    I always thought that this was the usual GCHQ propaganda project and as soon as I learnt about the military connection, I no longer speculated.

    • @ComeJesusChrist
      @ComeJesusChrist 5 дней назад

      Jonas sounds like the handler from Cheltenham.

  • @Chrislayeruk1
    @Chrislayeruk1 18 дней назад

    I have seen a Tesla park at the pump and use the Spar shop. Plenty of parking was available… They just looked like arrogant twats… This was last summer in the Lake District

  • @trevsmith2268
    @trevsmith2268 20 дней назад +5

    Seen an EV park on a petrol pump whilst I was delivering fuel to a garage in Braintree so it “does happen” shame on them

    • @stevenbarrett7648
      @stevenbarrett7648 20 дней назад +6

      I do that when I can, pull up at a pump in my EV then go into the shop for my parcels and purchases etc, its not an problem as it only takes seconds to fill an ICE car with fuel apparently, me taking up a space for a few minutes when actually using the gas station isn't going to be an issue, is it ?

    • @trevsmith2268
      @trevsmith2268 20 дней назад +5

      So in your world it’s ok for ICE cars to park in a charge bay ?? Not a problem is it ??

    • @davebaker8362
      @davebaker8362 20 дней назад

      ​@@stevenbarrett7648. People do this outside my working garage ice ev drivers they all do it. It's not about the vehicle its the person. Some ask if it OK for a minute while they go to the shop which is nice and civilised, I always say yes. I drive an sl so those ev bays with their extra width are tempting, but I would never park in one because that would make me rude and ignorant

    • @tryhardfpv5351
      @tryhardfpv5351 20 дней назад +4

      I do the same if I need to purchase something at a petrol station. I don't have a problem with an ice car parking in an ev charging bay if they are only there for a few minutes. Just like an ice driver wouldn't be happy with any car ice or ev parking for an hour or more next to a petrol pump.

    • @paulweston1106
      @paulweston1106 20 дней назад +5

      I do it when I'm buying fuel for my lawnmower. I tried walking down to the filling station to buy fuel (proper can etc) and they wouldn't sell me petrol without a vehicle. When I turned up in my EV it didn't seem to bother them that I was filling a petrol can but driving an EV.

  • @davidslapp3400
    @davidslapp3400 20 дней назад

    Hi Dave why is it so hard to get a home charger for on street parking . The process is so hard and could be expensive going through planning permission could cost more than the charger ! Will council or governments make it easier? As most people if they go down the route of EV don't have off street parking and there are ways to cross the footpath safely

    • @paulprosser1289
      @paulprosser1289 20 дней назад

      Some local authorities are worried about the albeit unlikely, possibility of the car’s body becoming live due to neutral loss or similar fault in your house electrics.

    • @davetakesiton
      @davetakesiton  20 дней назад

      Hi David, Two corrections needed. First over 80% of people with EVs can and do charge at home; there are significantly more semi and detached than terraced. Second do you expect to be able to dig up the public pavement with no regulations?
      If your mileage warrants it, then it will be much cheaper to pay what it costs for some type of home charger as you will save in the long run. If you drive 5 miles a day it will be a waste of money.

    • @davidslapp3400
      @davidslapp3400 20 дней назад

      @@davetakesiton yes you say 80% but that is people that have purchased because they have off street parking but if or when Ev's take over after 2030 what will people who live in terraced houses do as this is one of the reasons people go for an EV for the cheap electric if I knew how hard it would be I wouldn't have bought an EV even though I love it.

    • @GruffSillyGoat
      @GruffSillyGoat 20 дней назад

      There have been a number of analysis into on-street parking, including by the government. These all count households rather than properties, as some households are completely non-driving whilst others may have a multi-car family. The anlysis concluded that nearly 70% of households in the UK have access to off-street parking , when factoring the 20% of non-car owning households (majority with no intent of purchasing a car). In England the overall figure is 24% of households are without off-street parking, raising to a peak of 36% in some urban settings.
      So the majority of households can charge off the road. Dave's stat just reflects the uptake within those currently owning EVs, which means 20% don't charge at gome but are still happy to own an EV.

  • @truebrit3670
    @truebrit3670 20 дней назад +1

    Visiting Tescos to fill my minibus last week a charge point was ICEd. I filled up with diesel, paid at pump, then went into Tescos to use the loo and buy some bits for Christmas, leaving the bus blocking 2 pumps. Its up to Tescos to police the EV bays.

  • @mikerivers9634
    @mikerivers9634 20 дней назад +2

    Love the ‘trying to fail’ v ‘trying to charge’. The problem with the ‘trying to fail’ brigade is that they offer no solutions. Quick to carp but haven’t the faintest idea about clean energy. That is if they even care!

  • @ndudman8
    @ndudman8 20 дней назад +5

    u should listen back to the stupid comment you made on leafs... that they have no battery managment and would just keep charging beyound 100% is just nonsense... they were only missing temp managment, and there was a time I think with 30kwh version when they removed the 80% limit, and hence it was very differcult to limit charging to 80% so hense people charged to 100 and there were lots of failiours... we still have a 12 year old one as second car, and it has 84%...

    • @rogerphelps9939
      @rogerphelps9939 20 дней назад

      Same here.

    • @solentbum
      @solentbum 20 дней назад

      AS I understand it the big problem with LEAF batteries was confined to a couple of areas in the world in the early days, all relating to operating in areas above 23 degrees C. My first LEAF had a driver selected 80%limit , but after a slight change in Battery chemistry for the Gen 2 vesion that option was removed. For the Mk 2 version there are recommended charging limits, as there are for the Tesla. If VERY cold it will ony charge very slowly at first, if too hot the BMS will restrict the rate of charge. In the UK summer weather it was only after three rapid charges and a long days drive that the BMS restricted the charge rate during the fourth charge. By then I was in need of a recharge!
      I have a 6 year old 2.Zero LEAF (40Kwh) that has always been charged to 100% at home and ocassionally to 80+% on a rapid.It still does the journey mileage I require. at this moment it on a visit to London from Havant. Yesteday it passed the MOT test with no problems. (97k Miles)
      My other LEAF is 62Kwh Acenta, a couple of days ago it managed a 194 miles trip in the rain, at 6Deg C, in the dark at a cruise setting of 70 mph . Much of the trip was against the near gale that was blowing. Todays short run out averaged 4.2mperKwH
      I think that Dave often forgets that there has been constant development by other manufacturers as well as Tesla.

  • @RuislipResident-v7p
    @RuislipResident-v7p 20 дней назад

    A range extender would probably be better if you really did suffer from range anxiety (eg you are just a naturally anxious person). I suspect you would hardly ever use it, but it would always be there.

    • @loulou53137
      @loulou53137 20 дней назад

      I never understood why no one ever came up with a towable range extender that plugs into the car.

    • @ianv5533
      @ianv5533 20 дней назад

      @@loulou53137 Like a diesel generator🤣Seriously though, motor bikes used to have a reserve on their tanks and I’m sure the old jaguar has a pull lever for a reserve. Maybe for the anxious drivers manufacturers could have a reserve button.

    • @GruffSillyGoat
      @GruffSillyGoat 20 дней назад

      Range extenders are just series-PHEVs in anycase, they've just now got their own label to distinguish them from hybrid crowd.

    • @IanThompson-p2r
      @IanThompson-p2r 19 дней назад

      @@loulou53137think the cyber truck has an extra battery option and there is a lightship recreational vehicle that has range extending battery as well, so this kind of tech is probably coming soon..

  • @timoliver8940
    @timoliver8940 20 дней назад +3

    Buying a PHEV is t the answer to range anxiety - most EVs have way way more range than a PHEV running in electric mode. I ran a PHEV for 3 years and it had a claimed 28 miles electric only range but when the very nice 3 cylinder turbo petrol cut in it also couldn’t get better than 28mpg on petrol so what was the point? Now on my 2nd EV - 1st one had only 120 miles range but that was fine for my 32 miles round trips, but I had to resort to my diesel car for long trips. New one has 250 miles range in winter, I rarely charge it above 60% unless I’m doing a very long trip.

    • @oliver90owner
      @oliver90owner 20 дней назад

      PHEVs were simply a tax relief/avoidance issue, for many companies and workers (BIK?) along with access to areas not permitted to ICE vehicles. Now being addressed.🙂

    • @Un-Apologetic
      @Un-Apologetic 20 дней назад

      We get around 30 miles on electric and around 47mpg on petrol.

    • @oliver90owner
      @oliver90owner 20 дней назад

      @@Un-Apologetic 30 miles in my EV costs around 70p. What a difference to your 47mpg at pump prices.🙂🙂🙂

    • @Un-Apologetic
      @Un-Apologetic 20 дней назад

      @@oliver90owner mines about 80p for 30 miles on electric then 12p per mile on petrol. My diesel is about 11p per mile.
      Once out of range of your house charger you're paying around 20-25p per mile.

    • @oliver90owner
      @oliver90owner 20 дней назад

      @@Un-Apologetic Dear dim, I would need to go further than about 125 miles from home before having to buy any energy at public charging stations - and then only sufficient for the last few miles home. I don’t do that very often (~95% of the time I can charge at home).
      Let’s compare your (30 miles on electric plus 220 miles @47mpg on petrol) against my 250 miles on electric only. Your 220 miles will require about £27.50 (at my cheapest current petrol price within 15 miles). Total cost for your car for the 250 miles would be about £28.30. The local Morrisons would be £2 dearer.
      A full charge of electrons would be a bit over a fiver. Go figure, for yourself, which is cheaper - if you can. Then I suppose you will come up with some other bogus claim. Merry Christmas. Bye, because you are not worth arguing with.

  • @SGreen679
    @SGreen679 20 дней назад +1

    How many times can you say "Tesla"? You seem to forget there are other EVs out there. Watched all your videos now and it's all Tesle Tesla Tesla. Brasses me off tremendously.

  • @oliver90owner
    @oliver90owner 20 дней назад

    The left side is definitely the right side for Teslas and Superchargers.
    All charging points should be at the rear. Driving out of the spot is safer, for a start. It would always prevent the morons that try to dive in to the space, to jump the queue.

    • @rogerphelps9939
      @rogerphelps9939 20 дней назад

      No. Charging should be just like petrol pumps. No need to reverse. If your charge port is on the front you can drive eitther side of a pump otherwise left or right depending which side your charge port is on. It works for petrol and diesel so why have his daft bay parlava?

    • @phxazcraig
      @phxazcraig 20 дней назад

      Obviously you've never towed with an EV.

    • @oliver90owner
      @oliver90owner 20 дней назад

      @ Roger, it might come but until petrol pumps have to be reversed into, we have to put up with individual bays. Bays actually take up less space than likely required if drivers had to parallel park to charge?
      I agree with the bloke that posted re towing - that needs some thought (and I do have a tow bar on my car, btw). Maybe integrate trailers with HGV chargers?

    • @oliver90owner
      @oliver90owner 20 дней назад

      @ My EV is fitted with a towbar, thanks.

  • @JohnClark-yg3yh
    @JohnClark-yg3yh 20 дней назад +2

    Contactless charging for EV's? How does the health and safety work with the likes of pacemakers around those?

    • @rogerphelps9939
      @rogerphelps9939 20 дней назад

      Induction charging is a bad idea because of the high losses but owing to the distance pacemakers should be fine.

    • @IanThompson-p2r
      @IanThompson-p2r 19 дней назад

      Losses are similar to resistance losses from cables actually, and for pacemakers there is already some safety advice for induction cooking hobs. It’s going to be similar advice for contactless inductive vehicle charging I think.

  • @Stepbystep74
    @Stepbystep74 20 дней назад +16

    Every time I see a car parked in a charging bay I do wonder how much tolerance people would have for someone dumping their ev at a petrol station all day

    • @st200ol
      @st200ol 20 дней назад +3

      Not a lot, I’ve seen people in the queue getting all upset because the car at the pump doesn’t move away within 15 seconds after paying.

    • @choshun8
      @choshun8 20 дней назад +2

      I’ve experienced a guy occupying a charging bay at a Shell station with an ice car. I went into the kiosk to ask if they knew who it was as I needed to charge. The car owner was actually paying for chocolates and maybe petrol and apologised but said that he pulled into the charging bay because he didn’t want to occupy the pump space!

    • @K.L.A.S
      @K.L.A.S 19 дней назад

      Wow 😂! What a Bloody prat.​@@choshun8

    • @stephenbagwell8275
      @stephenbagwell8275 18 дней назад +1

      When I went to Frankley Services on August 17 there were more EV chargers available than parking spaces for ICE cars with some EVs in those

  • @kimedwards3937
    @kimedwards3937 20 дней назад

    I have owned hybrid then plugin hybrid and finally BEV. I did regret buying plugin hybrid due to having use petrol to heat car in winter. When charging you had no heating. Best thing is to buy hybrid or BEV and pass on PHEV.

  • @TonyLuxton-i2f
    @TonyLuxton-i2f 20 дней назад

    Anybody on there second set of batteries yet? How much for parts and. Labour and what car?

  • @tom753
    @tom753 20 дней назад

    Are changing pads safe for people with pacemakers an divibrliters

    • @solentbum
      @solentbum 20 дней назад +2

      Since thay are underneath the vehicle , and they will only go live after a 'hansdshake' I suggest they are safe to use.

    • @oliver90owner
      @oliver90owner 20 дней назад

      @@solentbum Don’t forget passengers. Seat sensors needed - and need to be fail-safe.

  • @ronaldgarrison8478
    @ronaldgarrison8478 20 дней назад

    ~10:00 I'm retired, with lots of time (though also lots of claims on it). So I just walk and take the bus. EV/ICE drivers You're welcome.

    • @charlesmarsh9608
      @charlesmarsh9608 20 дней назад

      What's a bus it's a 2hr wait + where I live and I'm not out in the sticks.

    • @ronaldgarrison8478
      @ronaldgarrison8478 20 дней назад

      @@charlesmarsh9608 Crap, I'd call that a prohibitive wait. Waiting more than 30' gets super annoying, and is rare. I'm not in the middle of a big urban area. But with such waits, I'd be looking seriously at other options.

  • @trevsmith2268
    @trevsmith2268 20 дней назад +2

    Say it’s on the “Nearside” that covers all eventualities

    • @paulweston1106
      @paulweston1106 20 дней назад +3

      How so, surely the "nearside" will depend on which side of the road you drive on.

    • @Rexbilly9819
      @Rexbilly9819 20 дней назад +2

      Nearside is on the right side in countries that drive on the right side of the road.

    • @narrowboatlongpod4176
      @narrowboatlongpod4176 20 дней назад

      It's only the nearside in the UK (or other RHD countries). The left is the only way to be safe.

    • @solentbum
      @solentbum 20 дней назад

      @@Rexbilly9819 But I drive on the 'right side' of the road in Englnd.

    • @RuislipResident-v7p
      @RuislipResident-v7p 20 дней назад

      Say its on the charging side.

  • @pauls4708
    @pauls4708 20 дней назад +1

    HEV are much more than 5 percent more efficient

    • @StephenButlerOne
      @StephenButlerOne 20 дней назад

      Yes, I had an ioniq hybrid, that cot a combined 68mpg over 32k miles of combined driving. I've never had an ice car that got anywhere close to that car.
      I've had 2l petrols doing 24mpg over 15k miles. And 2l diesels all average about 40/45, but will push mid 60s doing the limit on a motorway. They hybrid would only do high 50 on the motorway, but used next to nothing round town.

    • @terrymackenzie6784
      @terrymackenzie6784 20 дней назад

      Dave does tend to generalize and over simplify too much, unfortunately so do politicians and that leads to poor legislation but makes a good channel

    • @paulprosser1289
      @paulprosser1289 20 дней назад

      Depends on what your driving profile is. Hybrids are great in slow moving stop-start traffic. Useless on motorways and limited advantage in hilly terrain.

    • @StephenButlerOne
      @StephenButlerOne 20 дней назад

      @@paulprosser1289 yes, having owned petrol, diesel and hybrid (plus EV), I describe an EV and the opposite to a diesel. Great around town bad on the motorway, diesel bad around town first on the motorway.
      But on a combined cycle my hybrid was by far the best. Over my 32k miles on my hybrid (ioniq) I averaged 68mpg. And that's just driving it normal, but I'll caviate with the ioniq doesn't tempt you into driving it hard, like every other car I've owned, so I defo driven the majority of the 32k miles slower than any other car I've owned. But still it's a good 25mpg greater than any other car I've owned.
      My last car before the ioniq was a 19 Leon fr st 2l petrol 7dsg (about 220bhp}. And I covered about 15k in that (lockdown) and that consumption was either 24 or 26mpg over rhat 15k miles. Which is terrible, that's like Ferrari mpg! Great car tho.
      Current got a Cupra born, and that's cheap as hell to run for me. If I used non testa public charger about 18p per mile (which is about on par with the Leon), at a Tesla 10p per mile, and charging at home, which is almost all I do it's about 2.25p per mile.
      But if I go on the motorway, it usually means I'll have to use a Tesla station at some point. But the longest I've ever charged is 20mins and I'll get 180 miles out of a sub 20min Tesla stop. I refuse to use the others 1. They are far too expensive, 2. You just don't have the confidence in any of them, other Tesla. Tesla just does it right.

    • @pauls4708
      @pauls4708 20 дней назад

      @paulprosser1289 we live in a very hilly city.Wife gets the equivalent of 70mpg in a Toyota Yaris.Muvh better than her previous Suzuki Swift

  • @dps615
    @dps615 20 дней назад

    I'm unsure who has the worst hair style

  • @zippyatrainbow
    @zippyatrainbow 15 дней назад

    Dave you really do speak shit sometimes. If you can't charge at home or work and are parting with your own money electric cars are a complete liability.

  • @glideman
    @glideman 20 дней назад

    Some Hybrids do have plugs, plug in hybrids. I have a bmw m5 hybrid with a plug which I never use because it’s a company car with a petrol account. I didn’t want it but my company wouldn’t let me get a pure petrol car 😢

    • @davetakesiton
      @davetakesiton  20 дней назад

      A hybrid does not have a plug. A plug in hybrid has a plug. They are totally different

  • @St.AustellBlue
    @St.AustellBlue 19 дней назад

    My worst nightmare..the Ev-angelist has cloned himself.

  • @jamie-hb8gy
    @jamie-hb8gy 20 дней назад +2

    it works both ways,But Ev's should be banned from petrol forecourts especially because of the fire risk.

    • @mkijn999
      @mkijn999 20 дней назад +1

      Have to have a car to buy petrol for lawnmower. Ice many times more likely to catch fire. 12 volt electrical shorts with volatiles/combustible grime. Difference is that with an EV you have plenty of time to get away. ICE probably lethal to all around

    • @crm114.
      @crm114. 20 дней назад +5

      Do you mean the risk to the EV, as ICE is 20x more likely to catch fire?

    • @jamie-hb8gy
      @jamie-hb8gy 20 дней назад

      @crm114. Deluded.

    • @djtaylorutube
      @djtaylorutube 20 дней назад +1

      Pretty certain that the vapours from the petrol are a bigger risk. 🤣

    • @ianrob4760
      @ianrob4760 20 дней назад +2

      @@djtaylorutube indeed you can smoke whilst charging an EV

  • @the_none_believer
    @the_none_believer 20 дней назад

    Just watched MacMasters driving home fo xmas in his EV Porsche Cayenne, hilarious 😂
    Couldn't fully charge before he set off.
    No charges available @ Leicester services been like that for years.
    Next services took over hour , as supply throttled back as l said it would be a peak times.
    Finally got about 100 plus miles £37 .
    Which part of driving an EV is cheaper, easier, quicker 😂😂😂😂😂😂
    Sure those who love to meticulously plan every trip who like spread sheets and trainspotting would do a far better job.
    Me love to get in get there, get back, and buy my fuel cheaper at a supermarket, and have my coffee at my destination not sat at the side of the motorway waiting for my EV to charge.
    Only going to get worse next year as the EV lunacy mandate continues, as ed millipede destroys the economy with his buffoon fellow MPs 😢
    Was going to say will the last person to leave the last factory to shut please turn of th lights, but they won't need to as the windmills will have stopped turning again 😂.

    • @oliver90owner
      @oliver90owner 20 дней назад +2

      ICE are obviously better for those that cannot think beyond the fuel gauge. Personally, I don’t have a problem occasionally doing a bit of mental ‘rithmatic.

    • @ianv5533
      @ianv5533 20 дней назад +2

      I know who you are - you're the guy that's going to invade Panama🤣🤣

    • @djtaylorutube
      @djtaylorutube 20 дней назад +5

      I've commented on his video and here's the actual details:-
      He didn't spec the upgraded 150kW DC DC converter, his car has the poverty spec 50kW DC booster. What this means is that when on a 400V charge (Tesla Supercharger for example), the maximum charge speed he'll get is one that takes 45 minutes, where other people would do the same in 15 minutes. Had he fully charged or used a more suitable charger, like the rest of us, he would have done that trip in one go, no charge needed but anyway it gets better...
      He then deliberately pulled into Leicester Forest services to then "discover" that there were no chargers but he needed a nap, arguably deliberately adding time for effect. What he *could* have done, is used the Porsche satnav to go to a nearby charger, since the satnav has the database of chargers. Also at J21 he would have found the 300kW chargers at Fosse Park where he could have had a simultaneous nap and achieved both objectives with no impact.
      He didn't do that so had to then charge at Donnington to further compound a problem that never existed but does make for a more comical video telling a particular narrative.
      Like everyone else, i'd have just done the entire journey, without needing to charge, no meticulous planning needed whatsoever.
      People can take what they want from his videos but if they take them as fact, then they should also be open to hearing other facts and using them all to form an opinion. One person's perspective, which can easily be disected/debunked is not the entire experience that others have. 😉
      Remember, he earns revenue from the videos, that's absolutely fine, it needs viewers and the anti EV videos earn the most. Take from that what you wish. 👍

    • @ianrob4760
      @ianrob4760 20 дней назад +2

      @@djtaylorutube yep he just knows exactly the right route to expose the weak points. Meanwhile Out of spec coast to coast (3.5k miles) using the Taycan won of EV's and only just behind the ICE they benchmarked against. this is the US where the charging infra is worse than we have in the UK. Extreme test but if you can't do it right in a taycan. I suspect the problem is your fault deliberate of course.

    • @davetakesiton
      @davetakesiton  20 дней назад +5

      Of course he couldn’t fully charge at home like 99.99% of EV owners do, that would have destroyed the negative video he carefully scripted. Did you really fall for that? Boy am I really looking forward to the day when the very last ice or hybrid is sold and we can all start to breathe easier and live longer and healthier lives.