My Texas heritage goes back to before the Battle of the Alamo. My ancestors were here in December 1835! I also have a 5 times great-grandfather, Edward Cox, who was scalped and killed by Comanches in Hamilton county, in 1865. The Comanches were trying to steal some of his horses and he and a teenage boy who worked for him were both killed. I also have a 3 times great-uncle who was an officer who rode beside General Sam at the Battle of San Jacinto when Santa Anna was captured. So, needless to say, I am VERY TEXAS PROUD!
Very interesting! I need to do an episode on the story on Edward Cox sometime. I believe it is called "Pevelier and Cox" in the book Indian Depredations in Texas.
@@unworthyhistory I would be totally excited to see a story done on him, not to mention PROUD! He has a headstone the states he was scalped, but its not a period stone. Im assuming a descendant had it placed. I have several interesting ancestors in my family. Theres a man named Abel Morgan who was captured by the Mexican army at the Goliad Massacre who was held as a prisoner to help as a type of medic. He was held for a few years, I cannot remember how long. He wrote his memoir about it. Another man, Col. Madison Guess Whitaker, was with the Texian Army at the Battle of San Jacinto and was with Gen. Sam Houston when Santa Ana was captured. After the War of Texan Independance, Col. Whitaker went on to several political offices of various types. His grandson, John William Watson was married to a great-aunt of mine. In case you cannot tell, Im very proud of my Texas heritage, lol.
So its fare to say your heritage of land thievery transcends the formation of the racist state of texas . no meed to answer it was a rhetorical question ,. Got to love the my cousins the Comanches.
Little known fact about Crockett was he lost his Congressional seat for the last time mainly due to opposition of Andrew Jackson's party over Crockett's impassioned opposition to Jackson's policy of relocation of the Cherokee and other natives that had come to peaceful terms with the White Settlers. The Cherokee had a long history of mercantile relations with the English former or escaped Indentured servants from the Tobacco plantations in the Carolinas who actually preceded the influx of Ulster Scotch and Huguenots (Which was Crockett's background) that had come from Pennsylvania into Appalachia following the Revolution. While the ulster Scots had come as an armed camp bringing their women with them, The English upon completing their servitude or escaping it, bought or would woo wives from among the Cherokee.
Nice one! I have a great aunt that had an article in a CA paper claiming she was involved in 5 wars in the US.. Tall tale. Her first occourance was as a child in the Alamo. As a kid I had the article and bragged about it and such. However, your program gave me a little more info and I shall spend some time trying to get info. I'll let you know. Thanks
Very well done, I enjoyed this video immensley, being a long-time Texas history buff myself. A lot of this I knew, some was new for me since I don't have the DeShields book. It was also nice to see some fascinating images I hadn't seen before. Keep up the good work!
The death of Crockett matches that of Susanna Dickensons account of seeing Crockett with his peculiar hat ( she knew him of course) in a pile of 16 dead Mexicans with a few of his friends. Excellent research and history.
Two ancestors were took prisoner at Goliad . There was a big group took prisoner. They were all marched into the desert and shot. Their names are on a memorial stone at a Town in Marlin Texas
Like Texas history! So keep it up! Have you done a story about the real story of the movie "The Searchers?" near Young county? Saw a historical marker claiming such.
Thank you . I love the actual account of people who lived the history. There is so much of the past that is not known, good and bad . We should know the truth no matter how bad it may be . I would love to know the truth about the native Mexican soldiers from bexar county , who served in the Confederate army. I also wonder about comal county voting against joining the Confederation army but still sent 3000 men to fight with the Texans for the south .
They pay highly those pirates squatters decendents. From pirates and ocean Jumpers We Mexican must remind you Remember the Alamo!! You don't pay a honorable invitation to live in Tejas And than. Back stab hostess. That's the truth.
It must be said that this account from mostly Mexicans is very interesting and makes sense. One common thread is the Valiant defense by the Alamo defenders. I heard another testimony by one of the slaves sparred. He said Crockett lay dead with many enemy soldiers he dispatched. I tend to believe in this account rather then Hollywood depictions. It also makes scene that Mexican citizens would resent the defenders and support Santa Ana.
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU SOOO MUCH for taking the time and making the effort to produce such a fabulous video!! I was truly inspired by the courage of these brave men who defended the Alamo after watching your video. Which is exactly how someone should feel after hearing this story! Thank you!
There were few Kentucky long rifles, the men of the Alamo had "brown besses" they captured. Their powder quality was poor and useless in the damp cold, little better than charcoal. The long rifles were almost delicate and no bayonet stud. The Mexican brown besses were oak and iron, and bayonet, deadly in close
After all the blood and sacrifice of these proud men, today our Southern border is being abandoned by the Dem. politicians. SHAME.... ETERNAL SHAME SHALL BE THEIR LOT.
@NVMVNV Not really. There were a few scattered outpost, but not many. The Apache & Comanche hated the Spanish settlers and slaughtered most who tried to move north. Most of the states that were conquered from the US had very few actual Spanish/Mexican citizens here. Holding something via a map doesn't mean they hold the culture. Anglo Texans built Texas. Texans built Texas. AMERICANS built Texas.
@NVMVNV Yes, the edit was for adding the Comanches. Didn't want to forget the people that were key in keeping the north expansion of Mexico from ever happening. Yes, outposts. Meaning pretty much vast swaths of land what were uninhabited by those Spanish speaking people. Nowhere near enough to add to any sort of culture. The reason for their not expanding into this area was because the Apaches and Comanches hated them and slaughtered almost all of the men, women and children who made the poor decision to try to settle into this area. This is why the US settlers were given permission to settle in the region (Texas), as the people of Mexico were too frightened to come into the lands and meet the same fate as others. Yes, I've heard of New Mexico. Another region not really ever inhabited to any real extent by people from Mexico. It just happened to be a region that Mexico wasn't able to hold onto, but wasn't missed, as there were almost ZERO Spaniards/Mexicans there.
@NVMVNV Now they have culture here because of the illegal immigration. This is a new phenomenon, relatively speaking. The population of Hispanics in the American South West was very minimal before and up to the 1950s. We know that. We know that the people of Mexico were frightened to come to the region because they didn't immigrate north. Why didn't they immigrate north? Because the Indians of the region slaughtered them when they attempted to make such a migration. The American settlers had dealt with Indians before and were more willing to take the risk and fight the Indians, which is why Texas was able to be inhabited by those Anglo Texans. The government of Mexico specifically wanted the US settlers to come into Mexico because no one in Mexico was willing to do so. They just made the mistake of thinking they could control those hardened settlers once they arrived. New Mexico will be there but it is just a name given to it by WHITE people.
@NVMVNV I'm not surprised. RUclips is a racist, leftist/Marxist organization with an agenda of pushing that ideology. If the truth hurts their agenda, they shadow ban it. I wouldn't expect anything less from them.
That poor women, born in a battle lived through her father's death only to die a prostitute in an unmarked grave. She should have been taken care of by the State. What a sad ending.
huge fan of the actions at the Alamo. But gotta say a much more impressive stand exists in American history. If you are a fan of serendipity both stands had a member of Clan Cunningham fighting to the last. Wake Island.
You know the channel is coming right along when you start referring to yourself as "we", and especially when you make pronouncements about things slated to happen 13 years into the future! Congratulations!😁
I've never understand the value of their defense of the mission. Sure it delayed Santa Anna which apparently assisted Houston but couldn't the hundreds of Texians have outran and outmaneuvered the thousands of Mexicans?? Couldn't they have subsisted on less meat/grain? Didn't they know the water, food and shelter sources much better? Seems a waste to me.
Yet here stands the State of Texas. The judgement of someone alive today doesn't mean much, stacked next to the judgement of the men of the Alamo in that time.
@@thomaswayneward Great response. Firstly, Texas is a label. Nothing more. Labels are useful for the oppressors to keep their wealth, even those euros who steal it from original inhabitants based on the erroneous notion/excuse that their culture is somehow better or more civilized than others. pfff The fact that 'texas' has had 7 flags supports my previous. The only period Texas can really brag about (Republic) was the shortest which says a lot too. hehehe Just like those fools who gave lives/limbs fighting an idea they disagreed with in Viet nam. Silly sacrifice. If you can't do some homework and give me a better rationale for why the Alamo defenders died for a small mission in the middle of the Comanche kingdom you should at least give me credit for asking a good question.
I live in Texas. It's hard for outsiders to understand sometimes. These men, after a number of days at the Alamo, lived in an echo chamber. This meant they all thought alike. Texas men, for the most part, would still stand at the Alamo. Eaglegards...
@@fastsetinthewest I would agree. Just as Maine, California and Florida, Texjas is a whole 'nother world and perhaps more so than the others. BTW, I grew up in Texas and absent 30 years. I gained some understanding after reading Empire of the Summer Moon.
My ancestors beat Spain When USA used to be 13 colonies. Of pilgrims remember the era. Of the DONS. Wealthy California ranchers when anglos not even used to be just a few Even. .the one. Before Mexican Santa Catalina island of long beach California the original Mexican. Families still remaining there
I heard that the night before the assault there was no mexican cannon fire and thetexans were very tired and many were asleep when the mex. infantry quietly crept up and swept over the low wall, were Crockett's men were, many were killed before they knew the attack was upon them and it was over in less than an hour.
The last battle on the 13th day, the Mexican army attacked before dawn. The battle didnt last very long. People sometimes forget that the Alamo battle began in February and ended 13 days later, on March 6th. What the Alamo defenders didnt know was that Texas was declared a Republic on March 2nd, 4 days before the Alamo fell. The Defenders only numbered about 185 men, against thousands of battle-hardened Mexican soldiers.
Santa Anna had picked up conscripts on his march north, his officer corps were experienced, but a big percentage of his force were merely cannon fodder serving under force.
D Day is. Thousands of men of many many races , but most american citizens fighting for the freedom for others .That is American History. The Alamo had the choice to leave beforehand. Plus , weren't they rebelling to secede after just living on the land a short time. How is that possible if they weren't citizens ? Some were mercenaries
*1- there were only 1800 troops at the attack, not 6000. 2-Bowie was ordered to abandon the Alamo (he didn't) 3- Travis & Bowie had NO servants, but slaves. 4- 1600-2000 dead? WAY off. I think the reasonable number would be 300. 6- any journals/diaries of Mexican officers published?*
Being a history buff and happening to be working near San Antonio some years ago, the wife and I decided to visit The Alamo. We arrived early as did several other folks waiting for it to open and take the tour. As usual, the wife inquires, "So, what really happened here all those years ago?" I'm explaining it to her in what I thought was a pretty discreet voice, when suddenly I'm giving a history lesson to all those who were waiting. It's very telling how much our knowledge of history comes from those with graduate degrees from TVU; that's Television University. John Wayne depicting Davy Crockett and the rest of the cast depicting a movie script representing the "heroic Texans fighting against the evil Mexicans" isn't the real story. An intelligent argument can easily be made that the Texans got what was coming to them.
They got what was coming to them, all of their relatives got 640 acres of Texas land for free, the men that died at the Alamo helped create the country of Texas, which all Texans enjoy today. The men that fought for Texas independence were heroes all.
@@thomaswayneward Precisely what I was referring to. Do some independent research on your own and not rely on some video where the narrator can influence you so much; even an inflection of voice at just the right moment can sway you. I believe you will find the facts of what led up to Alamo battle quite shocking; I know I did all those years ago.
I got to watch John Wayne's "The Alamo" when it first came out in 1960. Crockett's (played by Wayne) death was similar to the way it was depicted here, except the room where Crockett died was used to store powder and exploded upon the famous frontiersman/politician's death.
An excellent presentation with good factual information. Davy Crockett was a very tragic person because he made the terrible mistake of giving support to the slaveowners, who wished to continue the greed, violence, brutality, and maliciousness of slavery in Texas. As a young man, Davy Crockett should have formed a nationwide movement towards the complete abolishment of slavery in the US and in new terrorities acquired by the US. He should have developed a comprehensive settlement deal with the former slaveowners in which they would be given 20 acres of land to farm and the former enslaved people 20 acres of their own land to farm. He should have disassociated himself from Andrew Jackson after learning he was a slaveowner and exposed him as a fraud.
I am sick and tired of people that keep on stating that the Texas Revolution was caused by Americans that held slaves, even though Slavery was not permitted in Mexico. The Texas Revolution was caused by the rights of inhabitants of Texas were persecuted by Santana, who called Americans that were in Texas Pirates, and used that for a reason to execute them. Santa Anna was a butcher who murdered hundreds of Texas citizens because he could. Stop the left wing garbage and celebrate the founding of Texas.
@@FrankLooez-el6nv Yes, Santa Anna won at the Alamo. 185 Texans against 5000 soldiers, and he lost over 1000 of them. In the end, Texas prevailed, and more than took their revenge.
What a spin has been put on this skirmish. Texans were on mexican land. A sovereign nation. Mexico asked, them to leave but they would not. The legal owner has a right to remove squatters. How does that make them "Heroes "? The native americans had the right to remove encroachment on land they lived on for thousands of years. Now 2nd class citizens on their own land. History should be taught fairly.
Fairly? You say stupid gibberish because you are ignorant. The Americans were invited and living under a constitution. Santa Ana named himself emperor and tore up the constitution. The Mexican government couldn't handle the Apaches and Comanches so they allowed American immigrants in. They tamed the land and Santa Ana wanted to dictate over them. There was comparatively little permanent Mexican settlement in Texas during the hundreds of years it was part of Mexico.
Yes, let's teach it fairly. Let's teach how the treaties that the Texans had made were first with the Spanish and then with the Republic of Mexico that was displaced by Santa Ana who established himself as a dictator over Mexico. The Texans had no treaty with him nor saw any reason to follow his overthrow of the government and as Mexico was now in turmoil, sought to declare their independence from this one man government. Santa Ana chose to fight and lost. He signed the treaty giving Texas their independence. That's how nations are formed. As to your second point, yes the Indians did have the right to fight back against the European tribe that showed up and encroached upon their lands. However, they also lost. Unlike the natives, the Americans didn't employ the same level of horrific violence and terror the natives showed each other when they defeated them. They weren't just slaughtered and driven away to be slaughtered another day (native custom), but were given other lands, when no obligation to do so existed. They also gave them stipends of food, clothing, education, medical care, housing, and on and on that exists up to this day. How often do you think the Comanche gave a second thought to what lands could they give to the Apache when they were at war with them? Yes....Let's teach history fairly. Next lesson: White, Christian, straight males ended slavery in the world.
Yessir in deed viva the glorious Mexican history that's. Said in his anthem.! If a foreigner. Dare to step in your Land ! Remember Think beloved and blessed Nation That one soldier in each son The heaven gave you Mexican to cry of war!!
@@FrankLooez-el6nv They were defeated and it isn't their land anymore. It hasn't been for a very long time. Apparently the new Mexican cry of war is, "Quick! Abandon ship, everyone. This place has had it. Let's get to the United States!"
It's unlikely any kind of Mexican flag flew at the Alamo. The men of Texas were almost all for independence, which was declared four days before the fall of the Alamo. The losses of the Mexicans were probably about 120 killed and 240 wounded, not more or the attack would have failed. We Texans had a natural tendency to inflate Mexican losses as a matter of pride.
I have read eyewitness testimony from a woman hiding in the garrison. She saw a man in in buckskin clothing and a peculiar hat who was led out of the rooms of the fort and shot. Maybe Crockett was a coward, maybe he was not. I choose to believe the testimony that the buckskin clad marksman was Dave Crockett.
I don't want to take away from what many consider to be heroic, but in my opinion, the Alamo fighters were plain foolish. Bravery isn't fighting in a fight you were bound to loose unnecessarily. They didn't need to fight that fight at that time. 190 men trying to hold a fortress that was to big for that few in numbers to hold, against 4,000 enemy soldiers, when they could have just withdrawn and waited a few weeks for Gen. Houston and his men, well that wasn't being brave. It was being foolish. The fortress known as the Alamo, was to large for the few there to defend. There wasn't enough men on the walls as they were spread out far to thin. When you have so many enemies attacking the same part of the walls, there wasn't enough defenders to drive them back. They were overran easily once the main attack was launched. The defenders knew this before everything started. It would have been much better to withdrawal to fight another day. That would have been the most intelligent thing to do. They probably would have had to fight to get the Alamo back butt they would have been the attackers. I am sure once the Mexican army moved in, a much smaller force would have remained to protect the Alamo. After Santa Ana withdrew the rest back to Mexico, the Texan army, in much stronger numbers, could have swept right in and taken the Alamo back. Now they have a sizable army and more than enough to defend it. When Santa Ana came back to try and take it back, he would have been defeated. But unfortunately history didn't do the smartest thing. If one of my relatives was there, I would have been upset with them for being foolish and throwing their life away. Crockett, Bowie and Travis should have lead their men out of San Antonio and the Alamo and met up with Houston's army. Then, have scouts sent to San Antonio and see what defences and numbers the Mexicans left there. Then plan the attack to take it back. Now the odds and numbers would be on their side and they would have won Texas's independence and be true heros. If everyone wants to call them hero's for fighting and dying in a battle they didn't need to fight at that time, well that of course is fine. But as I said, I feel they were fools to do what they did when there were other, more intelligent ways to do it. Instead of fighting and dying in a battle they could never win, they could have fought and lived in a battle they could never loose. If there was no other way then fighting a battle they couldn't win, then hell yes those who did are definitely heros. But as already stated, they had other choices that were much better for them and for Texan's wanting independence.
I grew up in San Antonio and sometimes I would go to downtown and walk around by the Alamo.
My Texas heritage goes back to before the Battle of the Alamo. My ancestors were here in December 1835!
I also have a 5 times great-grandfather, Edward Cox, who was scalped and killed by Comanches in Hamilton county, in 1865. The Comanches were trying to steal some of his horses and he and a teenage boy who worked for him were both killed.
I also have a 3 times great-uncle who was an officer who rode beside General Sam at the Battle of San Jacinto when Santa Anna was captured.
So, needless to say, I am VERY TEXAS PROUD!
Very interesting! I need to do an episode on the story on Edward Cox sometime. I believe it is called "Pevelier and Cox" in the book Indian Depredations in Texas.
@@unworthyhistory I would be totally excited to see a story done on him, not to mention PROUD! He has a headstone the states he was scalped, but its not a period stone. Im assuming a descendant had it placed.
I have several interesting ancestors in my family. Theres a man named Abel Morgan who was captured by the Mexican army at the Goliad Massacre who was held as a prisoner to help as a type of medic. He was held for a few years, I cannot remember how long. He wrote his memoir about it.
Another man, Col. Madison Guess Whitaker, was with the Texian Army at the Battle of San Jacinto and was with Gen. Sam Houston when Santa Ana was captured. After the War of Texan Independance, Col. Whitaker went on to several political offices of various types. His grandson, John William Watson was married to a great-aunt of mine.
In case you cannot tell, Im very proud of my Texas heritage, lol.
So its fare to say your heritage of land thievery transcends the formation of the racist state of texas . no meed to answer it was a rhetorical question ,. Got to love the my cousins the Comanches.
Again, thanks for sharing
Mexicans for Trump, we rely on a strong and free USA
The Mexicans were there before them!
Little known fact about Crockett was he lost his Congressional seat for the last time mainly due to opposition of Andrew Jackson's party over Crockett's impassioned opposition to Jackson's policy of relocation of the Cherokee and other natives that had come to peaceful terms with the White Settlers. The Cherokee had a long history of mercantile relations with the English former or escaped Indentured servants from the Tobacco plantations in the Carolinas who actually preceded the influx of Ulster Scotch and Huguenots (Which was Crockett's background) that had come from Pennsylvania into Appalachia following the Revolution.
While the ulster Scots had come as an armed camp bringing their women with them, The English upon completing their servitude or escaping it, bought or would woo wives from among the Cherokee.
Thank You for my updated Texas History lesson which has not been done since I was 14 and now 65 with the exception of the John Wayne movie the Alamo.
Thank you for your insight of the Alamo.
Simply a great video…never knew about those that deserted the Alamo
Don’t know if I will be here in 13 years but will be as long as I can
Thank you for your episodes. Enjoy them
Excellent as always.
thank you for this channel. its one of the few videos worth watching.
Very appropriate. Thank you from a Texas resident.
Nice one! I have a great aunt that had an article in a CA paper claiming she was involved in 5 wars in the US.. Tall tale. Her first occourance was as a child in the Alamo. As a kid I had the article and bragged about it and such. However, your program gave me a little more info and I shall spend some time trying to get info. I'll let you know. Thanks
Very well done, I enjoyed this video immensley, being a long-time Texas history buff myself. A lot of this I knew, some was new for me since I don't have the DeShields book. It was also nice to see some fascinating images I hadn't seen before. Keep up the good work!
enjoyed this much, need to find a copy of that book
God bless those Brave Men who fought at the Alamo. Rest in peace Men, your ultimate sacrifices will never be forgotten.
Remember The Alamo, Remember Goliad
Remember San Jacinto!
These men where heroes protecting the land and freedom that this country has today
Remember the native lands
@@chrisruiz1215 The ones they lost in a fight against the European tribe? Yea, we remember.
The death of Crockett matches that of Susanna Dickensons account of seeing Crockett with his peculiar hat ( she knew him of course) in a pile of 16 dead Mexicans with a few of his friends. Excellent research and history.
If those brave men knew or would cone back today they would b ashamed of the way it is today
Absolutely Top Notch Sir . 🤠🖖 ♨️
Two ancestors were took prisoner at Goliad . There was a big group took prisoner. They were all marched into the desert and shot. Their names are on a memorial stone at a Town in Marlin Texas
Need to check out that memorial. Supposedly my fourth great grandfather, John Hallett died at Goliad. One of his sons fought at San Jacinto.
Awesome telling...
A great reading of a great history.
I really like your channel, keep up the good work!
Like Texas history! So keep it up! Have you done a story about the real story of the movie "The Searchers?" near Young county? Saw a historical marker claiming such.
Thank you . I love the actual account of people who lived the history. There is so much of the past that is not known, good and bad . We should know the truth no matter how bad it may be .
I would love to know the truth about the native Mexican soldiers from bexar county , who served in the Confederate army. I also wonder about comal county voting against joining the Confederation army but still sent 3000 men to fight with the Texans for the south .
Remember the Alamo!
Why??????
They pay highly those pirates squatters decendents. From pirates and ocean Jumpers
We Mexican must remind you
Remember the Alamo!!
You don't pay a honorable invitation to live in Tejas
And than. Back stab hostess.
That's the truth.
Amen. Never forget
It must be said that this account from mostly Mexicans is very interesting and makes sense. One common thread is the Valiant defense by the Alamo defenders. I heard another testimony by one of the slaves sparred. He said Crockett lay dead with many enemy soldiers he dispatched. I tend to believe in this account rather then Hollywood depictions. It also makes scene that Mexican citizens would resent the defenders and support Santa Ana.
Davey crockpot was a coward! Tell the truth for once!
They were defending something that wasn’t even theirs to defend. Viva Juan Cortina, viva Santanna. Make Tejas Mexico again!
This is not American history. This is Texas history.
God Bless Texas!
Proud to be a Texan!
I had two ancestors who were took prisoner by Santa Anna's troops There was a large group. They got marched into the desert and all were shot.
Proud to be a Texan
@NVMVNVTrue. People can also say anything to your face. 🤦♀️ Then again, Many people share THEIR stories, which I appreciate.
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU SOOO MUCH for taking the time and making the effort to produce such a fabulous video!! I was truly inspired by the courage of these brave men who defended the Alamo after watching your video. Which is exactly how someone should feel after hearing this story! Thank you!
I'm very proud that James Bowie is a distant relative of mine.
Gow can you keep your composure after hearing this
I believe it was 600 myself but you'll never know cause it's unworthy history Regards Peter DeLorey Canada
@NVMVNV WTF?
@NVMVNV I was just stating that your comments make you sound like an idiot
@NVMVNV But please emogi boy, tell us how the Alamo correlates to Sandy Hook
@NVMVNV Holy Crap spelling Nazi, that's how you justify bringing up Sandy Hook?
And "emogi" was on purpose, l saw you also corrected someone else's spelling. I guess some of us need a purpose in life, you've obviously found yours.
They didnt have a way to leave. Did you not hear the part about " no horses"?
There were few Kentucky long rifles, the men of the Alamo had "brown besses" they captured. Their powder quality was poor and useless in the damp cold, little better than charcoal. The long rifles were almost delicate and no bayonet stud. The Mexican brown besses were oak and iron, and bayonet, deadly in close
Excellent. Eaglegards...
After all the blood and sacrifice of these proud men, today our Southern border is being abandoned by the Dem. politicians. SHAME.... ETERNAL SHAME SHALL BE THEIR LOT.
Preach my friend.👍🏻
@NVMVNV Not really. There were a few scattered outpost, but not many. The Apache & Comanche hated the Spanish settlers and slaughtered most who tried to move north. Most of the states that were conquered from the US had very few actual Spanish/Mexican citizens here. Holding something via a map doesn't mean they hold the culture. Anglo Texans built Texas. Texans built Texas. AMERICANS built Texas.
@NVMVNV Yes, the edit was for adding the Comanches. Didn't want to forget the people that were key in keeping the north expansion of Mexico from ever happening. Yes, outposts. Meaning pretty much vast swaths of land what were uninhabited by those Spanish speaking people. Nowhere near enough to add to any sort of culture. The reason for their not expanding into this area was because the Apaches and Comanches hated them and slaughtered almost all of the men, women and children who made the poor decision to try to settle into this area. This is why the US settlers were given permission to settle in the region (Texas), as the people of Mexico were too frightened to come into the lands and meet the same fate as others. Yes, I've heard of New Mexico. Another region not really ever inhabited to any real extent by people from Mexico. It just happened to be a region that Mexico wasn't able to hold onto, but wasn't missed, as there were almost ZERO Spaniards/Mexicans there.
@NVMVNV Now they have culture here because of the illegal immigration. This is a new phenomenon, relatively speaking. The population of Hispanics in the American South West was very minimal before and up to the 1950s. We know that. We know that the people of Mexico were frightened to come to the region because they didn't immigrate north. Why didn't they immigrate north? Because the Indians of the region slaughtered them when they attempted to make such a migration. The American settlers had dealt with Indians before and were more willing to take the risk and fight the Indians, which is why Texas was able to be inhabited by those Anglo Texans. The government of Mexico specifically wanted the US settlers to come into Mexico because no one in Mexico was willing to do so. They just made the mistake of thinking they could control those hardened settlers once they arrived. New Mexico will be there but it is just a name given to it by WHITE people.
@NVMVNV I'm not surprised. RUclips is a racist, leftist/Marxist organization with an agenda of pushing that ideology. If the truth hurts their agenda, they shadow ban it. I wouldn't expect anything less from them.
John Wayne's death defending the Alamo will never be forgotten.
I never cared for him either
That poor women, born in a battle lived through her father's death only to die a prostitute in an unmarked grave. She should have been taken care of by the State. What a sad ending.
Why was Crockett, portrayed by Billie Bob Thornton, painted as surviving and thereafter executed? Is this a Mexican myth?
huge fan of the actions at the Alamo.
But gotta say a much more impressive stand exists in American history.
If you are a fan of serendipity both stands had a member of Clan Cunningham fighting to the last.
Wake Island.
You know the channel is coming right along when you start referring to yourself as "we", and especially when you make pronouncements about things slated to happen 13 years into the future! Congratulations!😁
A few Kentucky boys and Tennessee volunteers.
I've never understand the value of their defense of the mission. Sure it delayed Santa Anna which apparently assisted Houston but couldn't the hundreds of Texians have outran and outmaneuvered the thousands of Mexicans?? Couldn't they have subsisted on less meat/grain? Didn't they know the water, food and shelter sources much better? Seems a waste to me.
Yet here stands the State of Texas. The judgement of someone alive today doesn't mean much, stacked next to the judgement of the men of the Alamo in that time.
@@thomaswayneward Great response. Firstly, Texas is a label. Nothing more. Labels are useful for the oppressors to keep their wealth, even those euros who steal it from original inhabitants based on the erroneous notion/excuse that their culture is somehow better or more civilized than others. pfff The fact that 'texas' has had 7 flags supports my previous. The only period Texas can really brag about (Republic) was the shortest which says a lot too. hehehe Just like those fools who gave lives/limbs fighting an idea they disagreed with in Viet nam. Silly sacrifice. If you can't do some homework and give me a better rationale for why the Alamo defenders died for a small mission in the middle of the Comanche kingdom you should at least give me credit for asking a good question.
Live to fight another day.
I live in Texas. It's hard for outsiders to understand sometimes. These men, after a number of days at the Alamo, lived in an echo chamber. This meant they all thought alike.
Texas men, for the most part, would still stand at the Alamo. Eaglegards...
@@fastsetinthewest I would agree. Just as Maine, California and Florida, Texjas is a whole 'nother world and perhaps more so than the others. BTW, I grew up in Texas and absent 30 years. I gained some understanding after reading Empire of the Summer Moon.
Thought Crocket survived with 6 others before being murdered?
Brave yes but against Houston's direct order😮
The love of freedom is the greatest of human desire. Even stronger than the fear of barbarism. This is the trait that conquered the West.
It had nothing to do with freedom Slick, Just the re writing of History.the so called Victor's version, ☘️⚔️
@@th0masneill305 You're simply wrong. America was largely settled by the poor of the world. Thirst for freedom drove them.
@@danielgc1970 Whose Freedom, now just think about that Slick, ☘️⚔️.
@@th0masneill305 Their own and their posterity.
@NVMVNV Exactly. The concept of freedom drew those that were willing to fight from all over the world.
Has Mexico ever had a viable army or won a war?
They successfully fought for independence from Spain.
Cinco de Mayo .
@@haltidwell6275 gracious
My ancestors beat Spain
When USA used to be 13 colonies. Of pilgrims remember the era. Of the DONS. Wealthy California ranchers when anglos not even used to be just a few
Even. .the one. Before Mexican Santa Catalina
island of long beach California the original Mexican. Families still remaining there
They beat you at the Alamo, carizal, they beat the French. The Spaniards
I heard that the night before the assault there was no mexican cannon fire and thetexans were very tired and many were asleep when the mex. infantry quietly crept up and swept over the low wall, were Crockett's men were, many were killed before they knew the attack was upon them and it was over in less than an hour.
The last battle on the 13th day, the Mexican army attacked before dawn. The battle didnt last very long. People sometimes forget that the Alamo battle began in February and ended 13 days later, on March 6th.
What the Alamo defenders didnt know was that Texas was declared a Republic on March 2nd, 4 days before the Alamo fell. The Defenders only numbered about 185 men, against thousands of battle-hardened Mexican soldiers.
Santa Anna had picked up conscripts on his march north, his officer corps were experienced, but a big percentage of his force were merely cannon fodder serving under force.
D Day is. Thousands of men of many many races , but most american citizens fighting for the freedom for others .That is American History. The Alamo had the choice to leave beforehand. Plus , weren't they rebelling to secede after just living on the land a short time. How is that possible if they weren't citizens ? Some were mercenaries
They were mercenaries, filibusters, pirates, terrorists!
Looks. Like. It. Was. All killing for years. And years tough times. For. Sure. !
Some of the members surrendered and were killed by Mexican soldiers
Hate Santa Ana, nice hat
Hate Houston the drunkard
*1- there were only 1800 troops at the attack, not 6000. 2-Bowie was ordered to abandon the Alamo (he didn't) 3- Travis & Bowie had NO servants, but slaves. 4- 1600-2000 dead? WAY off. I think the reasonable number would be 300. 6- any journals/diaries of Mexican officers published?*
Being a history buff and happening to be working near San Antonio some years ago, the wife and I decided to visit The Alamo. We arrived early as did several other folks waiting for it to open and take the tour. As usual, the wife inquires, "So, what really happened here all those years ago?" I'm explaining it to her in what I thought was a pretty discreet voice, when suddenly I'm giving a history lesson to all those who were waiting. It's very telling how much our knowledge of history comes from those with graduate degrees from TVU; that's Television University. John Wayne depicting Davy Crockett and the rest of the cast depicting a movie script representing the "heroic Texans fighting against the evil Mexicans" isn't the real story. An intelligent argument can easily be made that the Texans got what was coming to them.
I've known of people telling the true story at the location, and been forced to leave by staff because they would not honor the myth.
@@PumaTwoU What myth? Did you watch the video?
They got what was coming to them, all of their relatives got 640 acres of Texas land for free, the men that died at the Alamo helped create the country of Texas, which all Texans enjoy today. The men that fought for Texas independence were heroes all.
Got what they deserved? They won a country so I’d agree there
@@thomaswayneward Precisely what I was referring to. Do some independent research on your own and not rely on some video where the narrator can influence you so much; even an inflection of voice at just the right moment can sway you. I believe you will find the facts of what led up to Alamo battle quite shocking; I know I did all those years ago.
Great video! Awesome work! The word is TherMOPylae. (Thur-Mop-ill-EE) Thermopylae.
I got to watch John Wayne's "The Alamo" when it first came out in 1960. Crockett's (played by Wayne) death was similar to the way it was depicted here, except the room where Crockett died was used to store powder and exploded upon the famous frontiersman/politician's death.
An excellent presentation with good factual information. Davy Crockett was a very tragic person because he made the terrible mistake of giving support to the slaveowners, who wished to continue the greed, violence, brutality, and maliciousness of slavery in Texas. As a young man, Davy Crockett should have formed a nationwide movement towards the complete abolishment of slavery in the US and in new terrorities acquired by the US. He should have developed a comprehensive settlement deal with the former slaveowners in which they would be given 20 acres of land to farm and the former enslaved people 20 acres of their own land to farm. He should have disassociated himself from Andrew Jackson after learning he was a slaveowner and exposed him as a fraud.
I am sick and tired of people that keep on stating that the Texas Revolution was caused by Americans that held slaves, even though Slavery was not permitted in Mexico. The Texas Revolution was caused by the rights of inhabitants of Texas were persecuted by Santana, who called Americans that were in Texas Pirates, and used that for a reason to execute them. Santa Anna was a butcher who murdered hundreds of Texas citizens because he could. Stop the left wing garbage and celebrate the founding of Texas.
God Bless Texas. Santa Anna's army got their asses kicked at San Jacinto.
Heaven justice. To those infamous invaders.
But who kick ass first
Remember the Alamo !
@@FrankLooez-el6nv Yes, Santa Anna won at the Alamo. 185 Texans against 5000 soldiers, and he lost over 1000 of them. In the end, Texas prevailed, and more than took their revenge.
@FrankLooez-el6nv Invaders? You mean Santa Anna? You do realize that many Tejanos sided with Texas, right?
@@FrankLooez-el6nv Is your last name Loez or Looez? Sad if you misspelled your own name...
very heroic, people fighting over mexico ilegallizing slavery, defending the texan revolution is like defending southern seccession
What a spin has been put on this skirmish. Texans were on mexican land. A sovereign nation. Mexico asked, them to leave but they would not. The legal owner has a right to remove squatters. How does that make them "Heroes "? The native americans had the right to remove encroachment on land they lived on for thousands of years. Now 2nd class citizens on their own land. History should be taught fairly.
Fairly? You say stupid gibberish because you are ignorant.
The Americans were invited and living under a constitution.
Santa Ana named himself emperor and tore up the constitution.
The Mexican government couldn't handle the Apaches and Comanches so they allowed American immigrants in.
They tamed the land and Santa Ana wanted to dictate over them.
There was comparatively little permanent Mexican settlement in Texas during the hundreds of years it was part of Mexico.
Yes, let's teach it fairly. Let's teach how the treaties that the Texans had made were first with the Spanish and then with the Republic of Mexico that was displaced by Santa Ana who established himself as a dictator over Mexico. The Texans had no treaty with him nor saw any reason to follow his overthrow of the government and as Mexico was now in turmoil, sought to declare their independence from this one man government. Santa Ana chose to fight and lost. He signed the treaty giving Texas their independence. That's how nations are formed.
As to your second point, yes the Indians did have the right to fight back against the European tribe that showed up and encroached upon their lands. However, they also lost. Unlike the natives, the Americans didn't employ the same level of horrific violence and terror the natives showed each other when they defeated them. They weren't just slaughtered and driven away to be slaughtered another day (native custom), but were given other lands, when no obligation to do so existed. They also gave them stipends of food, clothing, education, medical care, housing, and on and on that exists up to this day. How often do you think the Comanche gave a second thought to what lands could they give to the Apache when they were at war with them? Yes....Let's teach history fairly. Next lesson: White, Christian, straight males ended slavery in the world.
Yessir in deed viva the glorious Mexican history that's. Said in his anthem.! If a foreigner. Dare to step in your Land ! Remember
Think beloved and blessed Nation
That one soldier in each son
The heaven gave you
Mexican to cry of war!!
@@FrankLooez-el6nv They were defeated and it isn't their land anymore. It hasn't been for a very long time. Apparently the new Mexican cry of war is, "Quick! Abandon ship, everyone. This place has had it. Let's get to the United States!"
The Alamo was a strategic error they should not have got bottled up in an indefensible building. They should have conducted a guerrilla campaign.
Boring reader 😵💫
It's unlikely any kind of Mexican flag flew at the Alamo. The men of Texas were almost all for independence, which was declared four days before the fall of the Alamo. The losses of the Mexicans were probably about 120 killed and 240 wounded, not more or the attack would have failed. We Texans had a natural tendency to inflate Mexican losses as a matter of pride.
I thought the alamo was a disaster , botched resupply convoy and decimated in 30 minutes, this is as bad as glorifying custers last stand.
Bullshit that Crocket was the last to die! Sounds like propaganda to me.
I have read eyewitness testimony from a woman hiding in the garrison. She saw a man in in buckskin clothing and a peculiar hat who was led out of the rooms of the fort and shot. Maybe Crockett was a coward, maybe he was not. I choose to believe the testimony that the buckskin clad marksman
was Dave Crockett.
Yankees, they never learn.
Your ignorance precedes you…….
Speaking of bullshit, go look in the mirror, boy
Multiple accounts corraborated that version of events. Is it that hard to believe about a man so renowned for his courage and strength of arms?
I don't want to take away from what many consider to be heroic, but in my opinion, the Alamo fighters were plain foolish. Bravery isn't fighting in a fight you were bound to loose unnecessarily. They didn't need to fight that fight at that time. 190 men trying to hold a fortress that was to big for that few in numbers to hold, against 4,000 enemy soldiers, when they could have just withdrawn and waited a few weeks for Gen. Houston and his men, well that wasn't being brave. It was being foolish. The fortress known as the Alamo, was to large for the few there to defend. There wasn't enough men on the walls as they were spread out far to thin. When you have so many enemies attacking the same part of the walls, there wasn't enough defenders to drive them back. They were overran easily once the main attack was launched. The defenders knew this before everything started. It would have been much better to withdrawal to fight another day. That would have been the most intelligent thing to do. They probably would have had to fight to get the Alamo back butt they would have been the attackers. I am sure once the Mexican army moved in, a much smaller force would have remained to protect the Alamo. After Santa Ana withdrew the rest back to Mexico, the Texan army, in much stronger numbers, could have swept right in and taken the Alamo back. Now they have a sizable army and more than enough to defend it. When Santa Ana came back to try and take it back, he would have been defeated. But unfortunately history didn't do the smartest thing. If one of my relatives was there, I would have been upset with them for being foolish and throwing their life away. Crockett, Bowie and Travis should have lead their men out of San Antonio and the Alamo and met up with Houston's army. Then, have scouts sent to San Antonio and see what defences and numbers the Mexicans left there. Then plan the attack to take it back. Now the odds and numbers would be on their side and they would have won Texas's independence and be true heros. If everyone wants to call them hero's for fighting and dying in a battle they didn't need to fight at that time, well that of course is fine. But as I said, I feel they were fools to do what they did when there were other, more intelligent ways to do it. Instead of fighting and dying in a battle they could never win, they could have fought and lived in a battle they could never loose. If there was no other way then fighting a battle they couldn't win, then hell yes those who did are definitely heros. But as already stated, they had other choices that were much better for them and for Texan's wanting independence.
😂 the Alamo the only place where the slave holders want freedom 😂
Freedom to own slaves and steal land. Pirates!
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Alamo_defenders
List of alamo defenders both white and Mexicans