This scene really made me sad because the fact that Emily is convinced Lorelai won’t come over anymore because she paid them back is pretty depressing. That shows the kind of relationship they have.
@@gigia95421 That’s true, but does Emily really think that nothing has developed over the last two years Rory’s been going to Chilton? She really has that little faith in their relationship? I mean, that makes me sad.
@@lovefromwonderland to be optimistic, I think that Lorelai might have visited them once a month. Lorelai cares about her parents but she doesn't feel the need to see them. She would help them if they need her, but she wouldn't go to see them just for the pleasure to see her parents. This is what I got from her character
I get the feeling that Emily felt Lorelai would never have been able to pay her back or, if so, it would have taken a long time. That way Emily always got to see Lorelai & Rory for as long as possible.
I think Emily overreacted but I bet she would have gone thru life not expecting Lorelai to pay her back, forgetting the loan just to have her daughter and granddaughter visit her. I feel for her in that case since it's only once a week and started off as part of the deal. Once a week to visit your parents is so strange to me especially if you live nearby them.
The problem is, Emily definitely didn’t want Lorelai to pay back the loan, but she does hold it over their heads sometimes, like with Rory’s birthday party.
i personally don't agree with the comments, i think emily had a right to be upset because she just wants to spend time with her daughter and granddaughter. of course she's heartbroken they aren't coming every friday night anymore. i feel like Lorelai could have been a little more empathetic
And i feel like Emily overreact like she always does when it comes to Lorelai. Lorelai had every right to play Emily back and Emily likes to think she can control Lorelai and hold it over Lorelai that she payee for dinner and went get out of dinner. How is spending time Lorelai spending time with Emily when Emily puts her down every chance she gets.
Emily must have use the Friday dinners to try to construct a REAL relation with her daughter, not a coercive one. But she just ejerced power, and without the money debt the relation is still fictitious
As lorelai said later when rory was mad at her she didn't rub it in their face she didn't dance around the room going nananana we aren't coming over. She promised to pay that and she said thank you. I bet if Emily hadn't reacted they would have continued the Friday night dinners because by that point the relationship has been repaired.
yes but she completely took it the wrong way when lorelai only wanted to return the favor it had nothing to do with them not talking to her parents anymore
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I think if lorelai just promised here that the dinners would still continue, even without the money, that Emily would have been much less hurt...
Yep, but Lorelai doesn't want to visit her parents every week. As she said she would visit them once in a while which basically means never. I think the series started with them seeing each other like 3/4 times a year for the festivity days
I mean she was paying back a loan that she promised to repay. I didn’t see anything wrong with that. Maybe she she shouldn’t have mentioned the money came from her dad and to not give it on her bday. But she could’ve used that money for anything but chose to use it to repay for Rory’s school. And I didn’t like how Rory acted after. Lorelai seemed genuine to me with thanking her parents and never said she wouldn’t be going to Friday night dinners anymore. I mean if there was an agreement, I would’ve followed through and paid back my parents. Maybe I would’ve given it another time though but I’m on Lorelai’s side in this one.
She wasn't wrong for paying them back but if I were here I wouldn't have done it at dinner in front of Rory. It was a grown up conversation that should've been done in private.
Im siding with Lorelai on this She was being responsible in paying Emily and Richard back. Emily made a big deal out of nothing in my opinion. You all also seem to forget that Emily took advantage of Friday Night Dinner and would sometimes use the fact that her and Richard paid for Chilton as black mail. Emily's behavior was immature here not to mention i hate that she treated Lorelai like this on her birthday
exactly, and not to mention that there was no indication whatsoever of Lorelai not continuing the Friday night dinners nor any disdain on her account, she simple repaid the money. she didnt go like 'here's your money im outa here'
And she was so sincere about it. Thanking them and being genuine in how grateful she was. You can also she how proud see is that she paid them back. You think she was hoping, for once, that they would have been proud of her for being so responsible and honorable in keeping to her word only for it to completely blow up in her face. Gods I feel so sorry for Lorelai here. And on her birthday. They couldn't have even done their snide little "Well at least we did one thing right with you." backhanded compliment thing? And her dad just barking at her to shut up and acting to Emily like he'd never wanted to give her the money.
In my opinion, Emily was acting very childish and immature in this episode. How is it wrong that Lorelai kept her word for paying you back? And how did she and Richard feel the need to act self-righteous and treat her like that on her birthday? I can honestly see where Lorelai's coming from here. I hate being in debt, too. Especially to those who never truly treated me very well. She was doing just fine being estranged from them for the last fifteen years. The only reason she agreed to that arrangement of Friday night dinners was just out of concern for her daughter and making sure that they financially supported her high school education when Lorelai was unable to. Emily's the one who blackmailed her, and Lorelai repeatedly told them since the beginning that she would pay them back and meant it. With Rory's graduation coming up and her father handing her that check on her birthday, it seemed like the perfect time. She was being responsible and mindful of the arrangement and held up her deal, especially since Rory's coming into adulthood and can make her own decisions. As an adult, it is important to pay of loans that we borrow. That's what she did. No shade. Emily needs to grow up and stop treating that girl awfully
Wel it was her birthday and to her she's finally getting out from unnder a crushing debt. A weight off her shoulders. It was a gift to herself and until Emily exploded at her there was no indication the dinners wouldn't continue.
@@lightningfurystrike13 No, i have seen this behavior before. She knew how her mom would react, she could have tabled it until the next day... she did it recklessly because she is a reckless person...Look at Rory's face even she knew the timing of it was F*** up and how Emily would take it and Rory was only 16!!
@@prettynerd4779 rory was 18. Lorelai still is horrible judge of what will upset her parents because she doesn't understand why that would make you mad. Like she said why are you mad? She wouldn't get upset if rory paid her back and still enjoyed cake, and so she didn't realize her mom would interpret the kind gesture as she did.
@@anniewallace3601 There is a thing called Tact and a time and place for everything. She had to know that Emily's feelings would be hurt because she was basically saying Friday night dinners were over and she said oh we will visit but not every friday. yeah right, Lorelei would have eventually phased out the dinners to Holidays.. IDK.. it just angered me.. I mean Lorelei was just so awful.. Emily and Richard were annoying but good and kind people who loved their daughter.. she could have handled them better.
@@prettynerd4779 but like I said her character is really bad at knowing what her parents will do because her mind doesn't go there. She can't picture the reaction occurring because that's not how she would react and this is why her relationship with her parents is unhealthy.
Lorelai could've been more tactful than to pay it back in one fell swoop on her birthday. She should've known her mother might react that way. It's not her fault that she does that, but if you can anticipate it, you at least know the ways to side-step it. Wait a week or two. Pay it back in smaller increments. Don't give her a chance to play the passive-aggressive card. Doesn't excuse that Emily, once again, acts like a child over it though. She clearly didn't ever want the money back, she wanted the Chilton tuition to, in effect, be Emily paying for the ability to have her daughter back in her life. She paid $30k or whatever it was to get Lorelai back in her life. I guess when money isn't a concern, you're willing to do stuff like that.
This scene really made me sad because the fact that Emily is convinced Lorelai won’t come over anymore because she paid them back is pretty depressing. That shows the kind of relationship they have.
Emily knows Lorelai. We also do, if it wasn't for the loan, Lorelai wouldn't have gone to visit her parents every week
@@gigia95421 That’s true, but does Emily really think that nothing has developed over the last two years Rory’s been going to Chilton? She really has that little faith in their relationship? I mean, that makes me sad.
@@lovefromwonderland to be optimistic, I think that Lorelai might have visited them once a month.
Lorelai cares about her parents but she doesn't feel the need to see them. She would help them if they need her, but she wouldn't go to see them just for the pleasure to see her parents.
This is what I got from her character
@@gigia95421 yeah I think that's fairly accurate
Emily straight up gaslighted Lorelai here lol
In my opinion Lorelai did nothing wrong here she told them since the beginning that she would returned the money
Ikr
It would've been bad no matter what but come on. Why on your birthday?
It's fear of rejection which Emily has every reason to anticipate. It's emotional not logical
there is a time and a place. Loreali could have asked her mom out to lunch and done it there.
@@roter13 it would be the same in this case
These are the most iconic scenes of the whole series
I get the feeling that Emily felt Lorelai would never have been able to pay her back or, if so, it would have taken a long time. That way Emily always got to see Lorelai & Rory for as long as possible.
I think Emily overreacted but I bet she would have gone thru life not expecting Lorelai to pay her back, forgetting the loan just to have her daughter and granddaughter visit her. I feel for her in that case since it's only once a week and started off as part of the deal. Once a week to visit your parents is so strange to me especially if you live nearby them.
agreed, i understand her viewpoint. and all the viewpoints for all parties but I do agree also agree that they overreacted a bit.
The problem is, Emily definitely didn’t want Lorelai to pay back the loan, but she does hold it over their heads sometimes, like with Rory’s birthday party.
The maid bringing the cake in @ the end is the perfect touch
News flash Lorelai! A student can get into a fancy college without going to a fancy private high school.
Yes, but the level of the school Rory was, was very low compared with that fancy one
Yes, but Rory also wanted to go to Chilton. She was just as eager as Lorelai
Newflash Rory wanted to go to Chilton so why is this Rory fault.
Those cakes slices are MASSIVE!
It’s Lorelai und Rory. They’ve handled bigger pieces before and were still hungry afterwards. 😋
I don't know why but 3:20 gave me a good chuckle probably because of the cuts, dialogue and how Emily is being irrational here
Watching this on my 35th birthday 🥳
Imagine you grandparents force you to Visit them 😅🤣😐😱
I think Rory did like to visit them, it's Lorelai who doesn't like to see her parents. Before the deal, she would visit them 3/4 times a year
i personally don't agree with the comments, i think emily had a right to be upset because she just wants to spend time with her daughter and granddaughter. of course she's heartbroken they aren't coming every friday night anymore. i feel like Lorelai could have been a little more empathetic
And i feel like Emily overreact like she always does when it comes to Lorelai. Lorelai had every right to play Emily back and Emily likes to think she can control Lorelai and hold it over Lorelai that she payee for dinner and went get out of dinner. How is spending time Lorelai spending time with Emily when Emily puts her down every chance she gets.
Emily must have use the Friday dinners to try to construct a REAL relation with her daughter, not a coercive one. But she just ejerced power, and without the money debt the relation is still fictitious
As lorelai said later when rory was mad at her she didn't rub it in their face she didn't dance around the room going nananana we aren't coming over. She promised to pay that and she said thank you. I bet if Emily hadn't reacted they would have continued the Friday night dinners because by that point the relationship has been repaired.
yes but she completely took it the wrong way when lorelai only wanted to return the favor it had nothing to do with them not talking to her parents anymore
I think if lorelai just promised here that the dinners would still continue, even without the money, that Emily would have been much less hurt...
Yep, but Lorelai doesn't want to visit her parents every week. As she said she would visit them once in a while which basically means never. I think the series started with them seeing each other like 3/4 times a year for the festivity days
I mean she was paying back a loan that she promised to repay. I didn’t see anything wrong with that. Maybe she she shouldn’t have mentioned the money came from her dad and to not give it on her bday. But she could’ve used that money for anything but chose to use it to repay for Rory’s school. And I didn’t like how Rory acted after. Lorelai seemed genuine to me with thanking her parents and never said she wouldn’t be going to Friday night dinners anymore. I mean if there was an agreement, I would’ve followed through and paid back my parents. Maybe I would’ve given it another time though but I’m on Lorelai’s side in this one.
She wasn't wrong for paying them back but if I were here I wouldn't have done it at dinner in front of Rory. It was a grown up conversation that should've been done in private.
Im siding with Lorelai on this
She was being responsible in paying Emily and Richard back. Emily made a big deal out of nothing in my opinion. You all also seem to forget that Emily took advantage of Friday Night Dinner and would sometimes use the fact that her and Richard paid for Chilton as black mail. Emily's behavior was immature here not to mention i hate that she treated Lorelai like this on her birthday
exactly, and not to mention that there was no indication whatsoever of Lorelai not continuing the Friday night dinners nor any disdain on her account, she simple repaid the money. she didnt go like 'here's your money im outa here'
I agree:(
And she was so sincere about it. Thanking them and being genuine in how grateful she was. You can also she how proud see is that she paid them back. You think she was hoping, for once, that they would have been proud of her for being so responsible and honorable in keeping to her word only for it to completely blow up in her face. Gods I feel so sorry for Lorelai here. And on her birthday. They couldn't have even done their snide little "Well at least we did one thing right with you." backhanded compliment thing? And her dad just barking at her to shut up and acting to Emily like he'd never wanted to give her the money.
In my opinion, Emily was acting very childish and immature in this episode. How is it wrong that Lorelai kept her word for paying you back? And how did she and Richard feel the need to act self-righteous and treat her like that on her birthday? I can honestly see where Lorelai's coming from here. I hate being in debt, too. Especially to those who never truly treated me very well. She was doing just fine being estranged from them for the last fifteen years. The only reason she agreed to that arrangement of Friday night dinners was just out of concern for her daughter and making sure that they financially supported her high school education when Lorelai was unable to. Emily's the one who blackmailed her, and Lorelai repeatedly told them since the beginning that she would pay them back and meant it. With Rory's graduation coming up and her father handing her that check on her birthday, it seemed like the perfect time. She was being responsible and mindful of the arrangement and held up her deal, especially since Rory's coming into adulthood and can make her own decisions. As an adult, it is important to pay of loans that we borrow. That's what she did. No shade. Emily needs to grow up and stop treating that girl awfully
So much for desert
So you like eating sand for "dessert?"
let the madness begin
Why does she have her purse at the dinner table and then take it into the living room?
She was 34 at the start of the series?
In theory Rory was going to be 16 at the start of the series, so Lorelai must be 32 or 33, according to the history
In the pilot she was probably still 32
She was 32. Rory nearly 16. The episode in season 1 where they go see the bangles, Madeline or Louise asks Rory how old her mom is and she says 32.
No she was 32 in season 1. This is season 3.
Did she really have to do that on her birthday though?
Wel it was her birthday and to her she's finally getting out from unnder a crushing debt. A weight off her shoulders. It was a gift to herself and until Emily exploded at her there was no indication the dinners wouldn't continue.
@@lightningfurystrike13 No, i have seen this behavior before. She knew how her mom would react, she could have tabled it until the next day... she did it recklessly because she is a reckless person...Look at Rory's face even she knew the timing of it was F*** up and how Emily would take it and Rory was only 16!!
@@prettynerd4779 rory was 18. Lorelai still is horrible judge of what will upset her parents because she doesn't understand why that would make you mad. Like she said why are you mad? She wouldn't get upset if rory paid her back and still enjoyed cake, and so she didn't realize her mom would interpret the kind gesture as she did.
@@anniewallace3601 There is a thing called Tact and a time and place for everything. She had to know that Emily's feelings would be hurt because she was basically saying Friday night dinners were over and she said oh we will visit but not every friday. yeah right, Lorelei would have eventually phased out the dinners to Holidays.. IDK.. it just angered me.. I mean Lorelei was just so awful.. Emily and Richard were annoying but good and kind people who loved their daughter.. she could have handled them better.
@@prettynerd4779 but like I said her character is really bad at knowing what her parents will do because her mind doesn't go there. She can't picture the reaction occurring because that's not how she would react and this is why her relationship with her parents is unhealthy.
I’m with Lorelei on this one
I feel bad for Emily, she didn’t trust their relationship 😢
In my opinion Emily blew this payback out of proportion. Grow up, lady!
Lorelai could've been more tactful than to pay it back in one fell swoop on her birthday. She should've known her mother might react that way. It's not her fault that she does that, but if you can anticipate it, you at least know the ways to side-step it. Wait a week or two. Pay it back in smaller increments. Don't give her a chance to play the passive-aggressive card.
Doesn't excuse that Emily, once again, acts like a child over it though. She clearly didn't ever want the money back, she wanted the Chilton tuition to, in effect, be Emily paying for the ability to have her daughter back in her life. She paid $30k or whatever it was to get Lorelai back in her life. I guess when money isn't a concern, you're willing to do stuff like that.