It aint about the size, it's about the beauty and the aesthetic of your muscle proportion and insertion. Jeff seid takes the 1st place he has a completely perfect symmetry and elegant body shape.
+Jacob Rubnitz i respect your opinion but as I see Ropin is really better than Jeff ,also there is many guys there deserve top 3 and Jeff not one of them, that's my opinion شكرا .
+InternetMunchies deffo should have won, was more aesthetic, the second place had obvious gyno, for that reason alone ruins the aesthetics and shouldn't place first
No, he was just bigger. If Jeff were as tall as him with same proportions then ur opinion would be different. However, as for now I would always choose the guy who came 2nd.
+Logan Rogers In the past people have lost placings for being 'too shredded' in these comps, I'm sure Jeff could've come in more lean if he really wanted to, but he didn't, and now he's the champ.
+cheesyc0re also since the addition of classic physique, judges are now aiming more towers a more natural aesthetic conditioned physique, rather than the muscle model look
whaaaaaaaaaaaaat these competitions are fixed???? no way!! next you will telling me the Eurovision song contest is fixed, or the countries who get awarded the world cup and Olympics get it through bribes. I just cant believe it.
Jeff has the best physique. Bodybuilding is not based on the size only it’s also based on symmetry conditioning. Jeff won because he has everything a champ needs. Short torso, long legs, small waist, great chest insertions, great abs and symmetry, great shoulders and arm width along with large forearms, amazing lats to enhance the v taper. The guy has it all. That’s the reason he looks so aesthetic. Look at any of the big names and they have the same thing, Zyzz, Jon skywalker, Ronnie, Arnold. All these guys have the first three in common for sure.
Progress over your break from social media was insane, you did good brah. Hopefully politics don't fuck up the olympia, because you should do really good.
+Tim z not rly more cut up hes bigger because hes taller, proportion wise it just naturally will be that way. These arent about actual size of muscles otherwise the tallest guys will always win. Its about how well balanced all muscles are to each other while being as big as possible.
@@bedahtulang That has nothing to do with the thing we are talking about here. I mean still better than anything u would accomplish in BB. I'm an engineer and a pro athlete tho and I don't use that fact to show off 😂
@@JoseGayo Lol you're just another stupid f*ck replying to a comment 4 years ago. I bet you're still living in your mom's basement and your dad abuse you
Who else will admit the guy in second clearly should have won. We all know Jeff won because of his popularity and he could also advertise and show off the competition on social media.
+Thomas Marsner i wouldnt be surprised tbh especially since Jeff is sponsored by so many companies they dont want him to get a second place either. He knew he was going to win. Its part of business. Plus like i said. Before hes very popular and hes looking upon from thousands of bodybuilders. The stage was rigged hands down.
ThePoopfacemegee yup, jeremy still has great proportions, yet if he doesnt get dinged at this years olympia for being too muscular for physique, somethings up. Unless he comes in differently than what wed expect
Another Great Video Jeff! Was amazing meeting you at Body Power. You and your team finally got me out of my shell to start vlogging my fitness Journey. I am from SCOTLAND and ive not seen anyone from here start a fitness RUclips/Vlog before so i did and would love if you had a look at my channel in your spare time! Im recording my progress to my first Mens Physique Show in 2017! I took that first step, im taking life the way i want it and not holding back and caring about what other people say. I am loving it so far. I may not be getting hundreds of views and likes, but talking to the camera, having a small amount of support behind me already is such an amazing feeling. I hope to have the same effect on loads of people like you do right now. Keep Killing it !
Walrai steve cook has great physique still got rekt by jeremy and sadik, steve has small shoulders nice physique but cant contest the broadness of jeremy and sadik
I do not wanna hate or anything, but Jeff tbh did not deserve the first place. The guy who was second and the guy who was third were both in better shape.. I am not saying they had lower fat % but their contest prep is on point. Jeff is holding water etc.... and I feel that he got the first place because he is youtube / IG celeb... just my honest opinion.
Unreal I care nothing of this event! But had I been involved those guys onstage were DISRESPECTED ALL JUDGES ARE BLIND!! WOW!!! TERRIBLE WASTE OF THESE GUYS HARD WORK!!!!!!!!!!
+Inner Beast They may all be bigger and leaner but men's physique is about that "classic beach body look". Not too big or out of proportion. Not to say that the other competitors were out of proportion but Jeff embodied what the judges were looking for.
+NextGenGaming07 what do you mean with aesthetic ? this guy has a better upper body imo his abs are totaly symetric his chest arms and shoulders are better too
What are you on, drugs? They didn't say Instagram picked the winner, they said the person winning first will get more followers on Instagram. #hearingnotevenonce
If Jeff gets first call out he'll be lucky,for one the judges wont know who is,if jeff had won a IFBB US show that might of helped,but with a stacked line up of guys who won on us soil,who do think the judges will remember?
I seriously think the judges play favorites when it comes to these physique competitions. I think Seid was chosen because of his popularity, good looks and also because he's white. Some physiques were better than his.
After watching lui's channel and coming back to this is a bit crazy the difference i mean totally get it this is physique and lui's channel revolves around bodybuilding.. Good job jeff!
+Robine Hurgstine Im not saying he should or shouldnt have won, personally i just think it looks bad for an ifbb pro to show his frustration that way. You cant win every show, judges are different every time resulting in a different physique winning, sometime a more lean look, other times a look with more mass. Regardless he can show is frustration back stage, or simply respect the fact that he didnt win and move on.
+Joakim Knutsson I assume everyone else could have the same aesthetics training the right way. Since they has more mass then Jeff it is possible for them to cut back on some muscle and have the same mass as Jeff!
+Visionary Aesthetics THa's bullshit. Alot of these guys had as good if not more good looking abs. The chest on Jeff is not that special either. And for sure. The shoulder definition is nothing special on JEff. I think he won because he had less size or from politics! For sure they must have called Jeff to enter this competition. Probably told him he will win if he enters. Either why the hell would he go there
Buendia and Sadik out of mens physique-they are too Big and dry- and look at their off season - they blow up like a baloon?!. Jeff should win olympia to show what the standards are. Aesthetic over Mass and dryness at any day bby.
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It aint about the size, it's about the beauty and the aesthetic of your muscle proportion and insertion. Jeff seid takes the 1st place he has a completely perfect symmetry and elegant body shape.
You make this sound so uh homosexual
the dude who came second looks better (my opinion).
I Agree
Way better
Definitely. Jeff has toothpick legs compared to the other dude.
I agree
+Jacob Rubnitz i respect your opinion but as I see Ropin is really better than Jeff ,also there is many guys there deserve top 3 and Jeff not one of them, that's my opinion شكرا .
wheelchair almost left him hanging epic lmao
but then he flipped a U-turn
+Adam Rogoz LOLLL yeooo..that U-turn action
+Adam Rogoz lmao
+Joe Schmoe zero to reverse nigga real quick
+Zyzz Brah shit dude hahaha
+Zyzz Brah bro you going to hell for that comment hahahahhahaha hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha
nationwide jeffs on your seid
Wtf hahah
Hahaha
Omg LOL!!!
+xxbublebee123 haha! dude looks pissed
nobody thinks jeff should have won, zero hating, just truth
So youre must be the nobody guy right lol
actually most of the people think he should have won , because this competition is more on asthetic than size
can you post the data from your research... thanks
I think he should have won
+InternetMunchies deffo should have won, was more aesthetic, the second place had obvious gyno, for that reason alone ruins the aesthetics and shouldn't place first
3:59 LOL
+Diego salas Almost Denied
lol
+Diego salas The sound of silence that is so funny lamo
+Diego salas Lmfao.
+Diego salas your comment is going to get tons of likes LMAO!
"Beundia I'm Coming For That Crown !! See you on stage !" I fucking died !! Go get That Shit Jeff ! Own The Olympia ! In it to win it !!!!
But jeff is the king anesthetic and fame best shape than buenda😜
Then goes last place at Olympia 🤣
@@shroudsimp4717 Personally I don't know how he won this show tbh sick physique for sure but the guy that came second shoulda won
he won because he has a big following base..... thats all more publicity for the fitness federation
Good point
Du dont have to be the best you only have to be good enough......the rest is done by your fame ^^
now someone is making a solid point.
Off course it is.
Damm rite buddy. The guy from Iran had better physic.
the guy that came second looked way better
jason sheedy agreed
No, he was just bigger. If Jeff were as tall as him with same proportions then ur opinion would be different.
However, as for now I would always choose the guy who came 2nd.
You also need to be good a posing
How can you tell they all look the same to me.
jason sheedy it’s the look and the smile that wins mostly learn
I think #2 was more muscular but Jeff was more aesthetic
+Logan Rogers yeah they look for symmetry more then muscle
+Logan Rogers In the past people have lost placings for being 'too shredded' in these comps, I'm sure Jeff could've come in more lean if he really wanted to, but he didn't, and now he's the champ.
+cheesyc0re also since the addition of classic physique, judges are now aiming more towers a more natural aesthetic conditioned physique, rather than the muscle model look
+Logan Rogers Jeff has fucking amazing genetics when it comes to insertions.
I wonder if he went full olympia mode how would he look.
Thank you, they mostly look for symmetry and the most Aesthetic look
Totally fixed as usual, Jeff looks amazing no doubt but not for 1st place
whaaaaaaaaaaaaat these competitions are fixed???? no way!! next you will telling me the Eurovision song contest is fixed, or the countries who get awarded the world cup and Olympics get it through bribes. I just cant believe it.
lol
Dee Gee u r right jeff is not for the 1st place
agreed
not even for third
You need to control the brah, brah
Don't control unleash brah
Unleash the brah
Brah!
Brah are you even brah, brah?
good job brah
Congrats. Stockholm Champion. What an amazing accomplishment and feat. How can you not salute this young man?
jeff clearly proves body builders are just tough from the outside but their heart is way more softer,love you jeff
Jeff has the best physique. Bodybuilding is not based on the size only it’s also based on symmetry conditioning. Jeff won because he has everything a champ needs. Short torso, long legs, small waist, great chest insertions, great abs and symmetry, great shoulders and arm width along with large forearms, amazing lats to enhance the v taper. The guy has it all. That’s the reason he looks so aesthetic. Look at any of the big names and they have the same thing, Zyzz, Jon skywalker, Ronnie, Arnold. All these guys have the first three in common for sure.
The shape/insertions of his body make him something so special
I agree but I don’t think he’d still win these days
Progress over your break from social media was insane, you did good brah. Hopefully politics don't fuck up the olympia, because you should do really good.
Did I here politic?
+Sickening Piss Lord it politic
+Sickening Piss Lord it politic
Gotta make 5 videos of the same event to confuse the subscribers , right babe ?
Yup yup goddammit
I just thought the same, left babe
He got a strike.. Cant upload vids above 15min
+Maaz Mathers whatever it takes
+steve jobs Yes babe check out my channel subscribe if you feel im worth it
Whats up with all of those awkward handshakes?
Lmfao
I was just gonna say
+Alpha Bedics in the world of aesthetics, you need to dab everyone up when you see them. You gotta learn brah
+Alpha Bedics Hahaha their hands must be sweaty
Sweden in a nutshell.
this a popularity contest? guy came in second shouldve won. bigger, thicker, more cut up
+Tim z not rly more cut up hes bigger because hes taller, proportion wise it just naturally will be that way. These arent about actual size of muscles otherwise the tallest guys will always win. Its about how well balanced all muscles are to each other while being as big as possible.
Detz0325
his shoulders are massive. better ab genetics
+Tim z nah Jeff has elite ab genetics
His back was shit compared to Jeff's.
+Tim z and had no back
Wait, what place did he get??
1st... do you not pay attention?
Brett what are you doing here
Last, of course
Mr u mirin jaw brah
congratulation for taking the sweet 16th spot in olympia.
Still far better than anything u would ever accomplish bro
@@JoseGayo really? Google me. I make 7 figures/year, I'm an orthopaedic surgeon, I own clothing and property company. What have you achieved BRO?
@@bedahtulang That has nothing to do with the thing we are talking about here. I mean still better than anything u would accomplish in BB. I'm an engineer and a pro athlete tho and I don't use that fact to show off 😂
@@JoseGayo Lol you're just another stupid f*ck replying to a comment 4 years ago. I bet you're still living in your mom's basement and your dad abuse you
hahaha jeff seid also makes more money than you too 💀, what a wannabe, imagine flexing 7 figures like that actually means something in 2022
Good to see Jeff back in action killing it. Nice work man. Looking forward to your go at the olympia stage
I'm sorry but Jeremy buendia is on another level
He and Sadik should be classic. Jeff has more of a body a average person would like to look like, and it is aesthetic as hell.
+adem hes also a manlet
+adem Buendia crushes Olympia every single time,now that sadik left its not even close
Classic shape , that's where Jeremy should be
@@bySeeb Jeremy is big as FUUCK, why you calling him a manlet? He cannot be a manlet with that physique
I'm still proud of Zac and Jeff
The 2nd guy looked way better not hating just the truth
More shredded and bigger muscle Bellyyyyyyyssssss baby pls
NO SHIT! Everything about the other dude was 100000% better, ab block, chest, arms, legs, back, ect... i dont get it.
True
true
He had the tren dick skin though.
I agree. Jeff's and weren't popping like his were.
Who else will admit the guy in second clearly should have won. We all know Jeff won because of his popularity and he could also advertise and show off the competition on social media.
Absolutely. I dont even know how the fuck Jeff could be so excited. Even that bad haircut dimwit should have seen that was clearly a gift.
I think Jeff deserved to win. His insertions are crazy.
+Thomas Marsner i wouldnt be surprised tbh especially since Jeff is sponsored by so many companies they dont want him to get a second place either. He knew he was going to win. Its part of business. Plus like i said. Before hes very popular and hes looking upon from thousands of bodybuilders. The stage was rigged hands down.
+none none what? Lmao gtfo your comment is invalid. Height had nothing to do with anything
+none none someones clearly lacking some brain cells.
3:32 That awkward handshake hahaha
Guitarist6494 lol 😂
tbh Buendia & Sadik are probably on fuckin another level
shows how much you know about men's physique Sadik is doing classic this year
+Tahir Khan to bad sadik is competing in classic now
+george walters which is honestly where Jeremy should go. He's huge
ThePoopfacemegee yeh,i filmed jeremy a few weeks ago,an that dudes delts an arms are like a bodybuilder
ThePoopfacemegee yup, jeremy still has great proportions, yet if he doesnt get dinged at this years olympia for being too muscular for physique, somethings up. Unless he comes in differently than what wed expect
2nd place looked a lot better to be honest
ab's were fucked up tho .
+harrison carpenter Not really
Olympia its marketing
Congrats Jeff I always liked your physique and your hair.
Another Great Video Jeff! Was amazing meeting you at Body Power. You and your team finally got me out of my shell to start vlogging my fitness Journey.
I am from SCOTLAND and ive not seen anyone from here start a fitness RUclips/Vlog before so i did and would love if you had a look at my channel in your spare time!
Im recording my progress to my first Mens Physique Show in 2017!
I took that first step, im taking life the way i want it and not holding back and caring about what other people say. I am loving it so far.
I may not be getting hundreds of views and likes, but talking to the camera, having a small amount of support behind me already is such an amazing feeling.
I hope to have the same effect on loads of people like you do right now. Keep Killing it !
hhahaha the second guy on the left in the back at 2:21
Haha so funny😂😂
that was Denis Gusev, who had better physique as did some other guys, imo
lmao better physique? shoulder not even once bruh
+kinoki aranongas Actually shoulder several times. Just because Jeff's delts are a strong point does not mean that guy has no delts
Walrai steve cook has great physique still got rekt by jeremy and sadik, steve has small shoulders nice physique but cant contest the broadness of jeremy and sadik
congrats the deserved candidates of showing its muscle strength fitness stamina with of all its exposure
Jeff gets left hanging at 3:58 😂
And gets his ass slapped at 4:07 😂😂
congrats on the win , good on you . more good things to come
it feels bad watching this while I'm eating donuts, caramel ice cream and drinking beer.
4 years since this comment, you couldve been rich, shredded and muscular now EASILY. how are you?
Im trying man ,everyday even if i feel like quiting everyday,keep up the good work Jeff you are my inspiration!
I do not wanna hate or anything, but Jeff tbh did not deserve the first place. The guy who was second and the guy who was third were both in better shape.. I am not saying they had lower fat % but their contest prep is on point. Jeff is holding water etc.... and I feel that he got the first place because he is youtube / IG celeb... just my honest opinion.
Thank goodness i'm not the only one who thinks this.
The same here. The second one was better than Jeff, but both are awesome. He had benefits by his fame.. however good work!
congrats jeff said you are a true inspiration for the aesthetic people.
3:58 *HELLO DARKNESS MY OOD FRIEND....*
nationwide is on jeff seid
Realistically, You have nothing on Buendia
We all just have to wait and see about that.
Buendia is so big tho that he's not even physique anymore, the judges might pick Jeff over him now that classic physique is around
+Vannslol Buendia is bigger but they are looking for symmetry and whole package
If he finishes 10th he will be lucky
+Alpha Aesthetics novice category you talking about.
You deserved this a LONG time ago brah! Congrats!!!!!
Jeff be sure to thank those judges individually!! U know what I'm saying! The suuuure disserve it. They really really really do
daaaaamn called Buenos OUT!!!! Can wait to see that battle Jeff great job bro!!!
have we not seen this videos before?
man im from brazil and you bro,you inspire me a lot,congratulations...
Well done bro even if I think the second guy was biggest ;)
+Damoygames but the contest is not like that.. not only about size
+Damoygames It's mens physique, it doesn't matter who is the biggest. The "bigger" dude had gyno titties, looked stupid.
Gyno titties on a day-LEE brah...
size is not the most important btw
#2 guy looked so much better in almost every aspect. Not even close.
I wish dom competed in these events
Great Job Jeff! Mr. Olympia! Her u come
let's all go to bundia instagram and write Jeff is comming for you ! to take the titlle , let's make things puping
Não vamo nao
buendia will win lol
loool, bundia would smoke him. respect to jeff, but olympia is an different league. he wouldn't place top 10
Jermey has it no matter what... Haha
you kidding ? you really think he can win against buendia and sadik ?
We want more videos!
it politics
it goofy
Unreal I care nothing of this event! But had I been involved those guys onstage were DISRESPECTED ALL JUDGES ARE BLIND!! WOW!!! TERRIBLE WASTE OF THESE GUYS HARD WORK!!!!!!!!!!
You probably don't know what the judges are looking for. Hint: it isn't size.
The Most Interesting Man in the World OK. Well. Maybe, hopeful for the love of righteousness hoping ur right
They are looking for his fame. The one with the most follower on insta, face ... is going to win
Honestly Jeff won in looks and physique that’s a fact and the smile, that’s how you win
Why isn't my favorite natty vegan rich piano there
He is no more😢😢😢
U deserve it cause you are natural
See u in Olympia 🥇
did jeff come first? can he release a video telling us the results?????
+YOLLLWWWWW they literally said he got first place IN this video brah...
yeh cause i was legit... u idiot
+Vikram_js hahah wtf dude
+Vikram_js People who can't understand simple sarcasm amaze me
Most natural body builder I have ever seen...
FIRST IT WAS A DISLIKE NOW YOU GETTING REPORTED!! WE GET IT YOU GOT FIRST PLACE!!
ikr
+Eliam Gonzalez you don't like this shit , Don't fucking watch it ! is it really that hard ! IDIOTS
+Abd Rahman ^^^
+Eliam Gonzalez Lol you're a fucking idiot
gotta confuse the judges right babe?? whatever it takes
+UchihaShisui Brah? Wrong channel brah!
TraumaER oh goddammmit!!
i'm your fan Jeff! Congratulations
Glad to see you won this Naturally Jeff. No need for steroids unless you wanna look like Phil Heath right?
Lol are you serious
Jeff is back!!
was this a who can be the smallest competition?
Best physique u ever had by far.... waiting for ur next show
Future Mr Olympia Is u Jeff
Sick! Really goes to show how the work pays off, congratz!
+Spartan m1lf yeah steriods to dont forget
Runescape nerd
they all have better body than jeff so how the fuck did he won?!
+Inner Beast public vote ;)
+Inner Beast They may all be bigger and leaner but men's physique is about that "classic beach body look". Not too big or out of proportion. Not to say that the other competitors were out of proportion but Jeff embodied what the judges were looking for.
Congrats Jeff. Good to see ya back m8!
all these awkward handshakes omg lmfao
you always motivate my man love you alot 💟
the 2nd place was bigger than jeff
+Kadr Kimbl Not more aesthetic tho.
+Kadr Kimbl Not aesthetic brah
His back is lagging a lot if you compare with jeff
+NextGenGaming07 what do you mean with aesthetic ? this guy has a better upper body imo his abs are totaly symetric his chest arms and shoulders are better too
+NextGenGaming07 jeff only wins with his lat but his abs are shitty compared to this guy
what a Legend! JEFF SEIDDDD!!!
dont understand how and why he won
one day you may
+danilo osiris Lol
haha same here, what happened?
Bcuz he has the best physique by far
What are you on, drugs?
They didn't say Instagram picked the winner, they said the person winning first will get more followers on Instagram. #hearingnotevenonce
He's coming for you BUENDIA !!! Jeff you got this.
If Jeff gets first call out he'll be lucky,for one the judges wont know who is,if jeff had won a IFBB US show that might of helped,but with a stacked line up of guys who won on us soil,who do think the judges will remember?
Best joke have heard all year! Thank you for the great laugh!
Jeff won't crack top ten
not deserved at all! every guy on that stage had better body than him.
*****
:)
u mad bro
Very true
no hate but in fact i had to agree especially the 2nd guy deserves the winning much more he has awesome physik
so fuckking true
Thats Sick ! *NICE COMPETITION*!!
unfair absolutely, look at the abs and shoulders of the contest who wins the second place .. better than him by levels!!
Totally agree. He DESTROYED Jeff on EVERY level, especially conditioning.
blind judges
the guy that come 2nd had horrible split abs, jeff is better
woah Jeff you're going to the Olympia again! that's awesome. I didn't see it coming
I seriously think the judges play favorites when it comes to these physique competitions. I think Seid was chosen because of his popularity, good looks and also because he's white. Some physiques were better than his.
After watching lui's channel and coming back to this is a bit crazy the difference i mean totally get it this is physique and lui's channel revolves around bodybuilding.. Good job jeff!
2:21 Denis Gusev with the thumbs down, whether the decision was the right one or not, that poor sportsmanship was not needed.
+Aspiring.physique No it was needed alright.. jeff did not deserve 1st
+Robine Hurgstine Im not saying he should or shouldnt have won, personally i just think it looks bad for an ifbb pro to show his frustration that way. You cant win every show, judges are different every time resulting in a different physique winning, sometime a more lean look, other times a look with more mass. Regardless he can show is frustration back stage, or simply respect the fact that he didnt win and move on.
I think he did it because of Jeff winning, not himself not winning
Coming for that crown!! Jeff getting me hyped up!!
second place guy looked better
Better fucking see Jeff Seid at Mr Olympia, bringing aesthetics back!
So the key here was to have as little muscle as possible? Since Jeff won!
+Joakim Knutsson I assume everyone else could have the same aesthetics training the right way. Since they has more mass then Jeff it is possible for them to cut back on some muscle and have the same mass as Jeff!
most aesthetics win
+Visionary Aesthetics THa's bullshit. Alot of these guys had as good if not more good looking abs. The chest on Jeff is not that special either. And for sure. The shoulder definition is nothing special on JEff. I think he won because he had less size or from politics! For sure they must have called Jeff to enter this competition. Probably told him he will win if he enters. Either why the hell would he go there
+Joakim Knutsson nope he definitely was the most symmetrical out of the top 3 was the smallest guy for sure but the biggest guy doesn't always win
You are basicly saying that these guys who lost are retarded
When winner wins trophy with hearts... That's the winning
Is the announcer the one and only Lui Marco?
Tell me please baby please
No it wasn't his voice
+M3ShOoO it sounds like him
fuark was a close contest some of those other guys look shredded, u looked best brah
5th place.. that dude from Iran should have had 1st easy.
Michael aha agreed
The guy who placed 3rd was the most aesthetic by far.. Also he was like the only one without any gyno
This guy with emo haircut who won is small af for olympia physique
congratulations Jeff.
The guy on the left clearly head a better physique than Jeff...fuller and more proportionate. Really strange he came in second.
CONGRATULATION JEFFIY!
someone please explain how they decide who wins lol. they almost all look the same.
It politic...
Exact same thoughts brah
+Albo Solidarietas i know right the judging is shit
great job jeff! get your belt.
Buendia and Sadik out of mens physique-they are too Big and dry- and look at their off season - they blow up like a baloon?!. Jeff should win olympia to show what the standards are. Aesthetic over Mass and dryness at any day bby.
Super jeff said