Lua! ❤️ You and Cassius are my fave guests across MTG channels y’all be the funniest and Joe you always a legend bro 🙌🏼💪🏼 thanks for this episode made my day 🙏🏼
Loved this episode! Did you know Rionya and combat celebrant is infinite combats? You exert the copies Rionya makes of Celebrant and then at the beginning of combat Rionya makes more Celebrants! I run a Rionya EDH deck that does that its so stupid lmao. you couldve potentially won the turn you played remorseful cleric hehe. Cant wait for Scrybabies content!
I found out I have cancer and probably not much longer to live and ever since then I've had a hard time sleeping because I'm too in my head and overthinking but your videos have helped me a lot eith depression and helping me put my mind at ease at night when I can't sleep so I just wanna say thank you even if you never see this
You guys create such a cool environment every game, it always feels like we get to hang with y'all while you're playing awesome Magic. Such a great channel!
Chrome Mox doesn't have flash so Joe shouldn't have casted it which also meant that he wouldn't have had the mana to cast Samut. Also, clone effects can't copy something that enters at the same time as it. It can only copy something that was on the battlefield the moment before it entered. Lua had the win anyways. At 33:56 you see Rionya, Fire Dancer in hand which goes infinite with Combat Celebrant.
31:14 Just for the record, since all creatures are entering at the same time with Patriarch's Bidding, Phantasmal Image doesn't see any creatures entering with Bidding to enter as a copy of, so it cannot enter as a copy of a creature entering with Patriarch's Bidding.
Great game! Many game errors/missed triggers but... Magic is a complex game and easy to miss/lose track of when you're in the game and just having fun.
TLDR: Good for Cash for staying in the game, it sucks when you don't draw mana, but dude, 29 lands is not many lands, am I missing something? I feel like at 29 lands you can expect to stay at 4 lands for awhile most games, you're expected to see your 5th land when you've seen 17-18 cards, which is really late usually. cEDH mana bases are like dedicated drag racers in a deck like Kess, if anything goes wrong you just can't compete, but if everything goes fairly well you just get to the other end of the track really, really fast. I personally prefer Zur, where iirc I run 34 lands in my Proxy version of my cEDH deck (I ran 39 in the non-Proxy, and a heap of ramp rocks), I feel like 3 colours for your Commander is pretty tough to manage without 3 lands/mana sources like Arcane Signet, I even run Signet lands to help make stuff like Ancient Tomb useful at casting my Commander (or Sol Ring, or Mana Crypt etc), it's very hard to cast Zur before turn 2, but it can be done fwiw, he just won't have haste and will get removed usually, it's generally better to wait until later and play him with at least U up to protect him, so I really want to hit my 4th land in that deck. At 39 lands, I had very good odds at getting Zur out on or before turn 4, but the proxied one can do it 3 or before with a decent level of consistency, I feel like Kess is in the same boat, where ramp is limited and your deck works much better with the Commander on the field (my deck might as well scoop if it can't get Zur out, which is almost parasitic because it depends on people having shaved down removal to try to 'go over' their opponents deck with raw power, you see lots of decks with maybe 4 or 5 creature removal options, not all of which even hit Zur), so I suspect a few more lands wouldn't hurt.
Some guy just ran a bunch simulated games to find out the ideal lands per deck. Landed at around 33-34 to not get flooded but also not miss land drops. There’s a thread floating around on reddit on it! Personally I feel like 39 would be too much, better to replace five or six of those with mana artifacts or flesh out your deck.
We do rule 0 with one another. Saying what number of power the deck usually doesn’t work. I let people know what turn you should aim to win on and that’s discussed long before players come on the show!
The dragon commander player forgot to shuffle his graveyard into his deck after Kasius played timetwister. You can clearly see archmage of oghma in his grave afterwards
Idk if Joe forgot that Samut gives haste or if he was being cautious but I'd have attacked with everything after patriarchs bidding. Also more damage the turn he played Rick and Kudro.
@@marioquezada4036 and should have countered it before attackers were declared. At the very least ask where the damage was going white it was on the stack instead of going to declare step and then counter it.
Has anyone else noticed that no matter what happens on the board even if cassius has nothing to do with he always get the short end of the stick whether it be on IHYD, Tabletop jocks or game knights, cassius is always the one being hosed even when he isn’t doing anything. RIP for cassius
Love it when Lua is on your show she's one of my favorite female players and great to see Cassius on the show as well. Also Opposition Agent SUCKS!!!! - lol
At 29:24 some of the creatures you guys brought back shouldn't have been Abel to come back because damnation says they can't be regenerated so I think this would have ended different but good day
Regeneration is a replacement effect which means: "The next time this permanent would be destroyed this turn, it isn't. Instead tap it, remove all damage from it, and remove it from combat. A creature has to have this replacement effect. They can be resurrected from the graveyard next turn
I love how the girl had an extremely amazing first couple of turns and was feeling herself. Now that everybody ganged up on her, she’s getting salty. Here’s a tip, never play a first turn like how she did. Never become the threat in the first 3-4 turns. Just sit back and relax until it’s time to take over a game
Wait...phantasmal image can't copy anything & zacama shouldn't be the one from tibalt, it was the first card on top of the library which he should be milling and after that next nonland. Sorry but this is just bad and these are kinda big factors for the game, kinda ruined.
The casual environment is cool (just came across this channel and watching older videos) but the misplays make the games irrelevant and unwatchable. The people interactions are fun though.
That’s fair. We could probably benefit from having and extra eye to look out for things like this. While we are filming 4-5 games and the banter it’s sometimes hard to focus on it all! Appreciate the feedback!
@@TabletopJocks I 100% understand we are all people who make mistakes and the casual nature of the videos. I just suffer from slight 'ahh that one misplay has affected the game for so long' syndrome. Still gonna watch the videos for the people enjoying the people.
@@TabletopJocks damn, I had just started watching that in like may lol. I'll sub to this as well. I haven't played since 2013, I think there's was the last block I actually competed in. I dig all the new content from dudes like you though.
There’s a LOT of content to catch up on here! Enjoy! www.thegamer.com/i-hate-your-deck-delete-episode-michael-david-lynch-abuse-allegations/ ruclips.net/video/togca5xdXHw/видео.html articles.starcitygames.com/magic-the-gathering/multiple-sponsors-affiliates-drop-i-hate-your-deck-over-abuse-allegations-against-channels-creator/
So.....whats worse opposition agent or Hullbreacher???? hhhhmmmmm if its in the 99 the chances of pulling either card is still by chance so i dont understand why the committee made the choice to ban Hullbreacher SMH.......
Because Hullbreacher incentivizes you to play it and the wheel the table away drawing you alone a new grip and giving you almost always 21 treasures to then dump said grip out onto the table. If you didn't get the treasures it wouldn't be so bad like notion thief but the fact that it GIVES you gas on top of heavily impeding your opponents. Opposition agent just doesn't let you tutor for cards. It doesn't set your opponents back as heavily
No one got fired, I left long before you heard anything. Have fun doing you though! I’m having a great time over here. What sucks is YOUR attitude not mine. Also, that’s public knowledge no one is dropping anything on anyone. Sorry for ya, have fun watching me win 😏
@@TabletopJocks you prove you have a shit attitude by spreading this. It's allegations and that's it. When his name is cleared your true character will show because you won't withdraw any of the shit you're trying to spread. No go hop on Cassius's jock and ride on into the sunset while your channel dies off and his thrives.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 you must be a very sad person. I really hope you find some help. See you at the next Magic event! Actually, I probably won’t, you’re talking like you never leave the basement and it shows 😂
200% agree with Cash ignore the ban list if the card was printed it can be used especially in edh. Only have 1 rule no proxies if you don't own the card you can't use it.
I never use proxies too man, but a ton of people show up to the lgs with half-proxied decks. Unfortunately you have to be prepared to play against proxy decks at some point. As a budget player it hurts extra cause you know they take the easy way out, printing the card they can't afford instead of spending actual time finding a budget choice for the same slot.
@@themasterprocrastinator sounds like we need to play a game together cause I 100% agree with you. Anyone can look up a deck online print the cards and go out and whoop ass. But there's just something about figuring out what type of deck to build with the cards you own it's a challenge and when your done and win some games it's so satisfying. Proxies for me are like getting aimbots for a shooter game like what satisfaction do you get from winning cause you cheated
I don't know man, I feel like a game is 100% more enjoyable against someone that proxies a Taiga vs someone that plays Time Vault + Voltaic Key or Hullbreach + Wheel
@@nik700 heres the thing for us players who play without proxies only play with the cards we get out of opening packs it's like a slap to the face that you can print out a killer deck and basically spend money for ink and paper and destroy me cause you know how to look up decks online and hit print. The real skill comes into play when you work with what you have and make the best deck possible with what you got. Anyone can print a deck that someone else already made. Simple as that
@@alc156 I think that someone beating me because they're using banned cards is a bigger slap to the face. If you wanna talk about skill, there's no skill on Hullbreacher + wheels, that's just someone wanting to play solitaire with 3 other people watching. Obviously I'm not trying to police your table, but seems like a weird comparison
I like the content. Been watching or trying to. First off why are they always in pubs where I can't here half the stuff that is played. Second why did you have to say it was a black channel. I liked your content before you made it racist.
I think this is the funniest episode I’ve been on haha. Loved playing with y’all! Thanks again for having me ☺️
Love the shroom shirt.
It’s always a blast having you with us!!! Can’t wait for a Scrybabies! 🥳🥳🥳
Lua! ❤️ You and Cassius are my fave guests across MTG channels y’all be the funniest and Joe you always a legend bro 🙌🏼💪🏼 thanks for this episode made my day 🙏🏼
Loved this episode! Did you know Rionya and combat celebrant is infinite combats? You exert the copies Rionya makes of Celebrant and then at the beginning of combat Rionya makes more Celebrants! I run a Rionya EDH deck that does that its so stupid lmao. you couldve potentially won the turn you played remorseful cleric hehe. Cant wait for Scrybabies content!
That replay of your shot had me like 🤣😂🤣🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
I found out I have cancer and probably not much longer to live and ever since then I've had a hard time sleeping because I'm too in my head and overthinking but your videos have helped me a lot eith depression and helping me put my mind at ease at night when I can't sleep so I just wanna say thank you even if you never see this
i hope everything is ok friend
You guys create such a cool environment every game, it always feels like we get to hang with y'all while you're playing awesome Magic. Such a great channel!
Rough game lol. But props to the foil king for not scooping and laughs were had by all.
Chrome Mox doesn't have flash so Joe shouldn't have casted it which also meant that he wouldn't have had the mana to cast Samut.
Also, clone effects can't copy something that enters at the same time as it. It can only copy something that was on the battlefield the moment before it entered.
Lua had the win anyways. At 33:56 you see Rionya, Fire Dancer in hand which goes infinite with Combat Celebrant.
"what do I owe you fo- oh, you right!" Best lightbulb moment ever.
31:14
Just for the record, since all creatures are entering at the same time with Patriarch's Bidding, Phantasmal Image doesn't see any creatures entering with Bidding to enter as a copy of, so it cannot enter as a copy of a creature entering with Patriarch's Bidding.
Nor could joe swing with said creatures on his turn as they got the sickness
He has samut so they all have haste
@@fnbits6484 check
Sure? I thought everything sees eachother when entering simultanously.
They all see each other as they enter at the same time so all creatures are valid targets to copy.
Absolute fire of a pod! Love what you're doing Jo, lots of love from Australia!
27:20 you can't cast Chrome Mox until your turn.
I'm surprised Cash didnt scoop round 1!
Great game! Many game errors/missed triggers but... Magic is a complex game and easy to miss/lose track of when you're in the game and just having fun.
Joe, your reaction to the tibalts trickery had me dying lmao 🤣😂
Lua! Lua! Lua! - need to have more of the beauty that is LUA..! 😎 awesome games, keep them coming!
that Tibalt's Trickery omg 😂 I don't think I've ever seen a worse result from one. shame Cash didn't really get to do much but wild game nonetheless
Either cash doesn't do much or he plays 90% of the game himself
Joe wasnt supposed to cast Lua's chrome mox. It doesnt have flash and wasnt his turn.
Funniest thing I ever did with Ruric Thar was play it against a person with Bolas’ Citadel.
Always love seeing Mr. Marsh play mtg
That under the table Gamble and Joe still got it! Lua's response 🤣🤣☠
I laughed so hard I had to sit up.
TLDR: Good for Cash for staying in the game, it sucks when you don't draw mana, but dude, 29 lands is not many lands, am I missing something?
I feel like at 29 lands you can expect to stay at 4 lands for awhile most games, you're expected to see your 5th land when you've seen 17-18 cards, which is really late usually. cEDH mana bases are like dedicated drag racers in a deck like Kess, if anything goes wrong you just can't compete, but if everything goes fairly well you just get to the other end of the track really, really fast. I personally prefer Zur, where iirc I run 34 lands in my Proxy version of my cEDH deck (I ran 39 in the non-Proxy, and a heap of ramp rocks), I feel like 3 colours for your Commander is pretty tough to manage without 3 lands/mana sources like Arcane Signet, I even run Signet lands to help make stuff like Ancient Tomb useful at casting my Commander (or Sol Ring, or Mana Crypt etc), it's very hard to cast Zur before turn 2, but it can be done fwiw, he just won't have haste and will get removed usually, it's generally better to wait until later and play him with at least U up to protect him, so I really want to hit my 4th land in that deck. At 39 lands, I had very good odds at getting Zur out on or before turn 4, but the proxied one can do it 3 or before with a decent level of consistency, I feel like Kess is in the same boat, where ramp is limited and your deck works much better with the Commander on the field (my deck might as well scoop if it can't get Zur out, which is almost parasitic because it depends on people having shaved down removal to try to 'go over' their opponents deck with raw power, you see lots of decks with maybe 4 or 5 creature removal options, not all of which even hit Zur), so I suspect a few more lands wouldn't hurt.
Some guy just ran a bunch simulated games to find out the ideal lands per deck. Landed at around 33-34 to not get flooded but also not miss land drops. There’s a thread floating around on reddit on it! Personally I feel like 39 would be too much, better to replace five or six of those with mana artifacts or flesh out your deck.
Could be cool if you guys started saying the power level at each game, whats ur thoughts on that ?
We do rule 0 with one another. Saying what number of power the deck usually doesn’t work. I let people know what turn you should aim to win on and that’s discussed long before players come on the show!
Since Joe already chose humans lua could’ve chosen spirt to get back her humans and the eidolon to limit spells
Another great pod and love the comraderie here. 🔥🔥
Where does Lua Stardust get her textured treasure tokens?
Not sure how Joe played Chrome mox on luas turn. That's not how opp agent works.
The dragon commander player forgot to shuffle his graveyard into his deck after Kasius played timetwister. You can clearly see archmage of oghma in his grave afterwards
Lua just out here making people play fair magic, I don't see the problem
😎
Idk if Joe forgot that Samut gives haste or if he was being cautious but I'd have attacked with everything after patriarchs bidding. Also more damage the turn he played Rick and Kudro.
Lua and Cash had me laughing
I feel so bad for Lua with that Tibal's Trickery. If she had rolled anything other than a 1 that Zacama doesn't hit the field
Well... She actually rolled twice...
@@marioquezada4036 and should have countered it before attackers were declared. At the very least ask where the damage was going white it was on the stack instead of going to declare step and then counter it.
I really wanna build a Saskia or Winota deck and this episode didn’t help me decide! Lol they were both so scary
Combat celebrant on the field with a rionya in hand...
Feels bad. That was the game right there.
Op agent the main reason I run bolt in any red deck especially in edh.
The games are so much better with only 4 people on camera.
Has anyone else noticed that no matter what happens on the board even if cassius has nothing to do with he always get the short end of the stick whether it be on IHYD, Tabletop jocks or game knights, cassius is always the one being hosed even when he isn’t doing anything. RIP for cassius
But this man had a turn 3 Eugene once upon a time.
I know this pain
The match I never knew I needed! Let's go!!
Called what pile, AND what card after the under table shuffle. Can't hide shit from Joe lmfao
White charm so underrated for preventing combat damage
Love it when Lua is on your show she's one of my favorite female players and great to see Cassius on the show as well. Also Opposition Agent SUCKS!!!! - lol
Powerdragn look like every black cartoon father mashed together
i dont belive any have mana and sol in found 1... sometimes i wanna see when they mix the cards
She should have thrown all her creatures in front of Op agent when she was dying anyways
What app are they using for life totals?
On this one I believe we used Carbon. It’s been a while though and I heard the app hasn’t been updated but that’s what we used at the time.
Love this episode!
the salt thats throw'n in this game because of some salty card XD
he didn't take ruric thar dmg off his crackling with power trigger.
At 29:24 some of the creatures you guys brought back shouldn't have been Abel to come back because damnation says they can't be regenerated so I think this would have ended different but good day
Regeneration is a replacement effect which means: "The next time this permanent would be destroyed this turn, it isn't. Instead tap it, remove all damage from it, and remove it from combat. A creature has to have this replacement effect. They can be resurrected from the graveyard next turn
Just in case you want to play ruric thar after watching this, keep in mind it says "a player" and not "an opponent"
Bro, your acting skills are on point with that moxfield ad. 😅
I spy a Scrybaby!
whats the app they used for life? can someone tell me please
Carbon
Cash in the video = Count me in !!!!
.... that deckbox lmao
2 cedh decks in a casual pod...
Nothing we didn’t agree to up front…
winota the list ?
How come blackneto isn’t on Ihateyourdeck anymore?
Left, wasn’t happy. Been here since January 1st with my real friends and couldn’t be happier!
Rith player supposed to take 6 because of ruric thar casting crackle with power
I thought nobody else had noticed!!! Good eyes 💜🦊
Spotted that too. Also didn't see him attack with ruric that turn,although i could have missed that
Take back shots...hmm wonder where I seen that b4 lol
I love how the girl had an extremely amazing first couple of turns and was feeling herself. Now that everybody ganged up on her, she’s getting salty. Here’s a tip, never play a first turn like how she did. Never become the threat in the first 3-4 turns. Just sit back and relax until it’s time to take over a game
Lua + Winota, can't get better than that!
Also, Cash, my man, love you dude, but Hullbreacher is too much
I love rith
reading the card explains the card...
Where's my invite to the party bro? Does cash every win lol?
I’m Starting up my Commander RUclips channel does TTJ have any advice 😁. Trying to do a show a month for donating to causes like the Trevor project.
NOM nom
Gang gang
Love the vibe, but can someone edit out the sound of the constant flicking of the cards in hand? It is so distracting. :(
Ringtone intro. Still waiting
My cousin does the intro music! Shoot him a DM on IG @ bluffcityboogie 😊
Rith vs Cedh
Saskia isn’t cEDH
@@TabletopJocks I stand corrected: Saskia, the dragon and a heroic opposition agent vs Cedh
Kess TOPPED 2 Cards at 10:12
It was the card he drew, and he picked up his hand at the same time.
PWRDRGN!
Q I see you!
Cassius……..you’re a cheater. 😂
Obsessed ❤
🥳🥳🥳
Wait...phantasmal image can't copy anything & zacama shouldn't be the one from tibalt, it was the first card on top of the library which he should be milling and after that next nonland. Sorry but this is just bad and these are kinda big factors for the game, kinda ruined.
18:31 cash becomes chris pratt
w h a t
Banned oppo unbanned breacher
The casual environment is cool (just came across this channel and watching older videos) but the misplays make the games irrelevant and unwatchable. The people interactions are fun though.
That’s fair. We could probably benefit from having and extra eye to look out for things like this. While we are filming 4-5 games and the banter it’s sometimes hard to focus on it all! Appreciate the feedback!
@@TabletopJocks I 100% understand we are all people who make mistakes and the casual nature of the videos. I just suffer from slight 'ahh that one misplay has affected the game for so long' syndrome. Still gonna watch the videos for the people enjoying the people.
The winota misplays oof why girl why
Lmao 🤣 good game
Did he leave I hate your deck?
Like a year ago. Started this in January glad you found me!
@@TabletopJocks damn, I had just started watching that in like may lol. I'll sub to this as well. I haven't played since 2013, I think there's was the last block I actually competed in. I dig all the new content from dudes like you though.
There’s a LOT of content to catch up on here! Enjoy!
www.thegamer.com/i-hate-your-deck-delete-episode-michael-david-lynch-abuse-allegations/
ruclips.net/video/togca5xdXHw/видео.html
articles.starcitygames.com/magic-the-gathering/multiple-sponsors-affiliates-drop-i-hate-your-deck-over-abuse-allegations-against-channels-creator/
So.....whats worse opposition agent or Hullbreacher???? hhhhmmmmm if its in the 99 the chances of pulling either card is still by chance so i dont understand why the committee made the choice to ban Hullbreacher SMH.......
Because Hullbreacher incentivizes you to play it and the wheel the table away drawing you alone a new grip and giving you almost always 21 treasures to then dump said grip out onto the table. If you didn't get the treasures it wouldn't be so bad like notion thief but the fact that it GIVES you gas on top of heavily impeding your opponents. Opposition agent just doesn't let you tutor for cards. It doesn't set your opponents back as heavily
Sucks to suck. IHYD is so much more entertaining.
😂
www.thegamer.com/i-hate-your-deck-delete-episode-michael-david-lynch-abuse-allegations/
ruclips.net/video/togca5xdXHw/видео.html
articles.starcitygames.com/magic-the-gathering/multiple-sponsors-affiliates-drop-i-hate-your-deck-over-abuse-allegations-against-channels-creator/
@@TabletopJocks yeah you got fired for having a shitty attitude then tried to drop dirt on him. Wahhhh.
No one got fired, I left long before you heard anything. Have fun doing you though! I’m having a great time over here. What sucks is YOUR attitude not mine. Also, that’s public knowledge no one is dropping anything on anyone. Sorry for ya, have fun watching me win 😏
@@TabletopJocks you prove you have a shit attitude by spreading this. It's allegations and that's it. When his name is cleared your true character will show because you won't withdraw any of the shit you're trying to spread.
No go hop on Cassius's jock and ride on into the sunset while your channel dies off and his thrives.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 you must be a very sad person. I really hope you find some help. See you at the next Magic event! Actually, I probably won’t, you’re talking like you never leave the basement and it shows 😂
200% agree with Cash ignore the ban list if the card was printed it can be used especially in edh. Only have 1 rule no proxies if you don't own the card you can't use it.
I never use proxies too man, but a ton of people show up to the lgs with half-proxied decks. Unfortunately you have to be prepared to play against proxy decks at some point. As a budget player it hurts extra cause you know they take the easy way out, printing the card they can't afford instead of spending actual time finding a budget choice for the same slot.
@@themasterprocrastinator sounds like we need to play a game together cause I 100% agree with you. Anyone can look up a deck online print the cards and go out and whoop ass. But there's just something about figuring out what type of deck to build with the cards you own it's a challenge and when your done and win some games it's so satisfying. Proxies for me are like getting aimbots for a shooter game like what satisfaction do you get from winning cause you cheated
I don't know man, I feel like a game is 100% more enjoyable against someone that proxies a Taiga vs someone that plays Time Vault + Voltaic Key or Hullbreach + Wheel
@@nik700 heres the thing for us players who play without proxies only play with the cards we get out of opening packs it's like a slap to the face that you can print out a killer deck and basically spend money for ink and paper and destroy me cause you know how to look up decks online and hit print. The real skill comes into play when you work with what you have and make the best deck possible with what you got. Anyone can print a deck that someone else already made. Simple as that
@@alc156 I think that someone beating me because they're using banned cards is a bigger slap to the face. If you wanna talk about skill, there's no skill on Hullbreacher + wheels, that's just someone wanting to play solitaire with 3 other people watching. Obviously I'm not trying to police your table, but seems like a weird comparison
I like the content. Been watching or trying to. First off why are they always in pubs where I can't here half the stuff that is played. Second why did you have to say it was a black channel. I liked your content before you made it racist.
It’s Black content because I’m a Black content creator. Nothing racist about it.
Dude if you think it's racist to acknowledge that black people exist, you might be the racist one.