First I've heard about the EV6 coming with the 2 years of free charging, good to hear! We got an Ioniq 5 and are taking advantage of that deal as well.
I'm doing the leg work for my almost 70yr old mom in getting a new EV and surprisingly she likes the looks of the ioniq5 over the EV6. Any input for a potential buyer? Good and bad, just looking for overall opinions from anyone who's spent time with the car
@@thelonewrangler1008 of course! We went with the Ioniq 5 purely based on looks and the fact that we found one actually available without an insane markup. Honestly from what I've seen, either is good although I believe EV6 is slightlykre efficient. I've had my Ioniq 5 for about 2 months, put 3,000 miles on it (I drive a lot for work) and I charge to 80% probably twice a week.
@@thelonewrangler1008 on both you will be disappointed with the lack of a rear windshield wiper. Hyundai/Kia say they designed the cars so air will flow down and push rain off, but it just doesn't work.
@@thelonewrangler1008 DC charging is amazing when the weather cooperates. I've had some 30+ minute charging sessions in colder weather, but I have also gotten better than the claimed 10-80% in 18 minutes as well. Unfortunately there's no battery preconditioning on these cars, so you either have to drive like an idiot to warm up the battery or just roll up and hope for the best. If you or your mom are mostly going to charge at home with a level 1 or 2, not a huge concern.
Kia EV6 does not get 2-years free charge. I think she got it wrong in the video. That 2-years free is for Hyundai, not Kia. Kia EV6 gets 1000kWh free from EA, I believe.
I think you may be incorrect with the free charging. Kia offers a 1000kw charging program you can use over the first 3 years. Meaning, you could technically charge the battery pack approx 13 times from empty to full. Hyundai offers the free unlimited 30 min charging session. Unless I'm wrong?
Great video, but also note that the EV6 could have also cost only about the same as the Tesla if you charged on a level 2 at home. So still, the electric vehicles cost way less per mile than the ICE vehicles. Great job here.
I have a Tesla wall charger at home but in the last three months I've only used it a handful of times since my employer just installed free level 2 chargers at work. I charge every other day at work and fill the "tank" up to 85% on Friday to get me through the weekend. We took a trip to Florida last November and round trip 2100 miles only cost us $38 because we had 1000 free supercharger miles from the Tesla referral program.
An excellent compare and contrast presentation. Your infotainment skills are on point! (And you're 100% on EA getting better. My MME's Plug & Charge works great now, though that could also be the huge number of OTA updates that Ford's sent to it...) Thanks for the video!
Nice Randy Rainbow glasses, Shannon! It is worth mentioning that charging prices have actually been going up, but… because gas prices are also going through the roof, the difference is still worth switching to an EV. I just took a brief 680 miles roadtrip, and spent $72 on Supercharging. If I'd kept my previous Subaru instead, I'd have spent… $164 on gas. I'll take it! As for home charging, it costs me zero, zip, zilch, nada… thanks to my rooftop solar. 🌞
How did this work!? I did preliminary research today and saw apparently these types of charges charge per kWh, and I'm interested in the Honda Prologue when it comes out. It's estimated to get a 100 kWh battery. At apparently an average of $0.48/kWh per ElectrifyAmerica's [*] stats that'd be $48 to charge from empty to full which will have an estimated 300-320 mile range. When/if I get the Prologue, I won't be able to get Level 2 charging in my home for a hot minute so I was hoping to rely on stations for a little while as I figured it would still be cheaper than gas, but this is actually way more expensive than what it'd cost to fill the tank of a CR-V Hybrid which is what I was otherwise interested in which has a fuel capacity of 14 gallons and an avg mpg of 38 mpg meaning ~$44 for 532 miles of estimated range at the current gas price around me of $3.15/gal. Someone help me understand this why charging an EV, even at the station, is coming out so expensive in my estimation!? I really would love to transition to EV but that already comes with a huge upfront premium... I gotta actually start saving the money on charging from the get go to start making that premium worth it! [*] www.electrifyamerica.com/pricing/
We had multiple charging problems and 12v battery problems. If you reference the forums, seems like the battery issue is common unfortunately. I’m sure it will be recalled soon.
@@EVandChill I am not getting same features in other price tag. Shape of Kia and Hyundai is not up to the par. I should wait for something else or still I can buy Mach E?
2 questions…is home level 1 charging cheaper than L2 charging? Also…we have a Tesla MY on “forever” order …in addition to the Tesla Supercharers can a Tesla be charged at non Tesla stations? Great video…thx so much. All the best…Greg
Hey Greg, whether you are charging at Level 1 or Level 2, both would be the same cost for your home. The difference in cost really comes in by having a Level 2 installed which can be anywhere between $300-$1500. Teslas can charge at non-Tesla Level 2 chargers with the J1772 adapter that comes with the Tesla. For DCFC, you would have to have a CCS adapter although a lot of EVGo DCFC stations are installing a Tesla connector as well.
What was the price per kWh that you used and was it during peak or off-peak times? I’m concerned on when I would have to charge based on getting the better rate and how that affected your numbers.
It was the cost of the entire duration of the charge. It zeros out because it’s free but I can look at the log and see how much it would have cost without the premo plan.
Divide the cost of the car for each mile and add that in or maybe replacement batteries when they go bad. gas car 40,000 plus gas= 48,000 or 65,000 for an electric car plus charging = 70,000 you can buy lots of gas for 15,000!
RUclips content creators have gotten really bad lately with incorrect information. It's not the end of the world, but people watch your vids, and some make purchases off your advice. It took me all of 30 seconds to look up the info you were wrong about....I think it's more about clicks and views as opposed to getting it right for a lot of content creators.
EV6 has so many problems in my country, AC doesn’t work, car doesn’t handle pretty well in Floods compare to Ioniq 5, Heater broken, Sound system is awful 😢 battery quality drop pretty quick (Fast charging problems), and more, my car currently is Ioniq 5 i sold my EV 6 about 2 weeks ago and the price drop significant 😭, you can find all of these problems videos in RUclips
First I've heard about the EV6 coming with the 2 years of free charging, good to hear! We got an Ioniq 5 and are taking advantage of that deal as well.
I'm doing the leg work for my almost 70yr old mom in getting a new EV and surprisingly she likes the looks of the ioniq5 over the EV6. Any input for a potential buyer? Good and bad, just looking for overall opinions from anyone who's spent time with the car
@@thelonewrangler1008 of course! We went with the Ioniq 5 purely based on looks and the fact that we found one actually available without an insane markup. Honestly from what I've seen, either is good although I believe EV6 is slightlykre efficient. I've had my Ioniq 5 for about 2 months, put 3,000 miles on it (I drive a lot for work) and I charge to 80% probably twice a week.
@@thelonewrangler1008 on both you will be disappointed with the lack of a rear windshield wiper. Hyundai/Kia say they designed the cars so air will flow down and push rain off, but it just doesn't work.
@@thelonewrangler1008 DC charging is amazing when the weather cooperates. I've had some 30+ minute charging sessions in colder weather, but I have also gotten better than the claimed 10-80% in 18 minutes as well. Unfortunately there's no battery preconditioning on these cars, so you either have to drive like an idiot to warm up the battery or just roll up and hope for the best. If you or your mom are mostly going to charge at home with a level 1 or 2, not a huge concern.
Kia EV6 does not get 2-years free charge. I think she got it wrong in the video. That 2-years free is for Hyundai, not Kia. Kia EV6 gets 1000kWh free from EA, I believe.
I think you may be incorrect with the free charging. Kia offers a 1000kw charging program you can use over the first 3 years. Meaning, you could technically charge the battery pack approx 13 times from empty to full. Hyundai offers the free unlimited 30 min charging session. Unless I'm wrong?
You're correct. Only Hyundai Ioniq 5 has the unlimited charging for 2 years....Ev6 get 1000 kwh only
I have been waiting for a long time for someone to explain this for me. Shannon, thank you for dropping this video.
Great video, but also note that the EV6 could have also cost only about the same as the Tesla if you charged on a level 2 at home. So still, the electric vehicles cost way less per mile than the ICE vehicles. Great job here.
I think the ev6 has 1000kw credit. Ioniq 5 is 2 years.
Ioniq5, better charging deal.
I have a Tesla wall charger at home but in the last three months I've only used it a handful of times since my employer just installed free level 2 chargers at work. I charge every other day at work and fill the "tank" up to 85% on Friday to get me through the weekend. We took a trip to Florida last November and round trip 2100 miles only cost us $38 because we had 1000 free supercharger miles from the Tesla referral program.
An excellent compare and contrast presentation. Your infotainment skills are on point! (And you're 100% on EA getting better. My MME's Plug & Charge works great now, though that could also be the huge number of OTA updates that Ford's sent to it...) Thanks for the video!
Love the opening!
Thank you for doing a calculation for non premium gas!!
Loved the video.
Why didn’t you use 1000 miles on the ICE car?
In typical government fashion, the site wouldn’t choose 1000mi without crashing lol.
@@EVandChill just multiply by 2/3.
Nice Randy Rainbow glasses, Shannon! It is worth mentioning that charging prices have actually been going up, but… because gas prices are also going through the roof, the difference is still worth switching to an EV. I just took a brief 680 miles roadtrip, and spent $72 on Supercharging. If I'd kept my previous Subaru instead, I'd have spent… $164 on gas. I'll take it! As for home charging, it costs me zero, zip, zilch, nada… thanks to my rooftop solar. 🌞
Thank you so much for not calling DC fast charging "Level 3" charging!
Hey I was just in DC for weekend really high gas prices. I live just south of Richmond VA. Have lots of questions about the ev6.
Could the problem with charging be more Mach-E at Electrify America stations?
Possibly. I think Ford’s “Plug and Charge” caused multiple issues with the connection.
How did this work!? I did preliminary research today and saw apparently these types of charges charge per kWh, and I'm interested in the Honda Prologue when it comes out. It's estimated to get a 100 kWh battery. At apparently an average of $0.48/kWh per ElectrifyAmerica's [*] stats that'd be $48 to charge from empty to full which will have an estimated 300-320 mile range.
When/if I get the Prologue, I won't be able to get Level 2 charging in my home for a hot minute so I was hoping to rely on stations for a little while as I figured it would still be cheaper than gas, but this is actually way more expensive than what it'd cost to fill the tank of a CR-V Hybrid which is what I was otherwise interested in which has a fuel capacity of 14 gallons and an avg mpg of 38 mpg meaning ~$44 for 532 miles of estimated range at the current gas price around me of $3.15/gal.
Someone help me understand this why charging an EV, even at the station, is coming out so expensive in my estimation!? I really would love to transition to EV but that already comes with a huge upfront premium... I gotta actually start saving the money on charging from the get go to start making that premium worth it!
[*] www.electrifyamerica.com/pricing/
Wow thank you
Does DC fast charging still cause greater degradation to the battery over time than L2 charging, or is that just EV's of the past?
Battery tech has significantly increased but I think DCFC still has the possibility of degrading the battery faster than Level 1/2.
The higher battery voltage level should avoid battery issues
Hi , I am planning to buy mach e but I am curious does it have continuous charging problems ?
We had multiple charging problems and 12v battery problems. If you reference the forums, seems like the battery issue is common unfortunately. I’m sure it will be recalled soon.
@@EVandChill I am not getting same features in other price tag. Shape of Kia and Hyundai is not up to the par. I should wait for something else or still I can buy Mach E?
How much do the 2 vehicles cost!
2 questions…is home level 1 charging cheaper than L2 charging? Also…we have a Tesla MY on “forever” order …in addition to the Tesla Supercharers can a Tesla be charged at non Tesla stations? Great video…thx so much. All the best…Greg
Hey Greg, whether you are charging at Level 1 or Level 2, both would be the same cost for your home. The difference in cost really comes in by having a Level 2 installed which can be anywhere between $300-$1500.
Teslas can charge at non-Tesla Level 2 chargers with the J1772 adapter that comes with the Tesla. For DCFC, you would have to have a CCS adapter although a lot of EVGo DCFC stations are installing a Tesla connector as well.
Do you charge at home and what's you're monthly cost if you do?
What was the price per kWh that you used and was it during peak or off-peak times? I’m concerned on when I would have to charge based on getting the better rate and how that affected your numbers.
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Hi Shannon.
100% agreed! 👍👍👍👍👍🌞🌞🌞❤️🙋♂️
Was the EA cost after the first 30 minutes free or did you just calculate it based on the standard kwH rate?
It was the cost of the entire duration of the charge. It zeros out because it’s free but I can look at the log and see how much it would have cost without the premo plan.
Damn our girl Shannon is gangster! Lol
Nothing wrong with a quickie!
Divide the cost of the car for each mile and add that in or maybe replacement batteries when they go bad. gas car 40,000 plus gas= 48,000 or 65,000 for an electric car plus charging = 70,000 you can buy lots of gas for 15,000!
I have been reading how the Tesla superchargers rates have been increasing, so that is something to factor in for the MY.
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RUclips content creators have gotten really bad lately with incorrect information. It's not the end of the world, but people watch your vids, and some make purchases off your advice. It took me all of 30 seconds to look up the info you were wrong about....I think it's more about clicks and views as opposed to getting it right for a lot of content creators.
Don’t come to California then . Tables will turn
EV6 has so many problems in my country, AC doesn’t work, car doesn’t handle pretty well in Floods compare to Ioniq 5, Heater broken, Sound system is awful 😢 battery quality drop pretty quick (Fast charging problems), and more, my car currently is Ioniq 5 i sold my EV 6 about 2 weeks ago and the price drop significant 😭, you can find all of these problems videos in RUclips
Numbers in a table: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kV65wEJs9mmk5QYg3Pll1RqVII3qUZSu0F0opYVEt9Y/edit?usp=sharing