Ellie in Space, GREAT INTERVIEW BUT, please ask Elon Musk these questions next time!

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
  • Dear @esherifftv , CONGRATULATIONS on the Elon Musk interview and good job!
    But next time, maybe fit in a few ANGRY questions...for me?
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  • @TheAngryAstronaut
    @TheAngryAstronaut  3 месяца назад +14

    Here's the full interview:
    ruclips.net/video/tjAWYytTKco/видео.htmlsi=CgpAvN1N4FHakBM6
    Also, to be 100% clear, I think Ellie did an excellent job with this interview! I absolutely meant what I said about her being a professional.

    • @sheiladavis2304
      @sheiladavis2304 3 месяца назад +3

      Don't take it personally AA. You can't compete with a blond in a tight dress.😅😂 I'm just kidding your day will come. We love ya!lol

    • @sheiladavis2304
      @sheiladavis2304 3 месяца назад

      Also the hinge on the wings is a nightmare. How do you tile a hinge?lol

    • @jonathangardner4475
      @jonathangardner4475 3 месяца назад +1

      It was hard to hear, but he said, the bare steel isn't suppose to be able to survive the heat. At least, thats what I heard.

    • @GuntherRommel
      @GuntherRommel 3 месяца назад

      She did a great job for sure. kinda slow-pitched the whole thing, though. You'll never get an interview with Elon though, Jordan, because you are a critic of his, rather than a fanboy.

    • @johnray1956
      @johnray1956 3 месяца назад

      I know what you mean, if i was able to have a sit down with Elon Musk. I would have questions differently then other people. I would ask more about what i would need to do to get proceses started. As i am more of a parts guy, and i know Elon Musk would find interesting. Elon Musk likes to experiment with Updating things to his advantage. I have 10 diffrent items that once fabricated, would actually benifit the program.

  • @TCarneyV12
    @TCarneyV12 3 месяца назад +47

    I think Elon meant once the heat tiles failed the flap wasn't supposed to be able to survive, not that it wasn't designed to survive.

    • @allun1345
      @allun1345 3 месяца назад +5

      Yup

    • @WillofNewZealand
      @WillofNewZealand 3 месяца назад

      3d print license woven fabric heat shield, hay Elon, I might know the owner, eh could be useful, fascinating to see individual tiles still popping off year after year.
      My original tile assessment was tile might work but I was skeptical keeping them stuck on. And yip.

  • @Fireblot8826
    @Fireblot8826 3 месяца назад +52

    Elon Musk should be applauded for granting access to interviews. SpaceX is surprisingly transparent.

    • @phillipbruni2434
      @phillipbruni2434 3 месяца назад

      I caveat that with “as transparent as they want to be”

    • @jamescarter8311
      @jamescarter8311 3 месяца назад +2

      @@phillipbruni2434 They're still a business not a charity.

  • @ross077
    @ross077 3 месяца назад +38

    Thanks for promoting Ellie's excellent first interview with Elon Musk. I think her choice of questions were perfect to leave the door wide open for future interviews and that can only be a good thing for the whole of the space community.

  • @ohedd
    @ohedd 3 месяца назад +20

    Yep, 100% Ellie did a better job than literally any MSM person would ever conduct.

    • @Inyourbox-kr5uf
      @Inyourbox-kr5uf 3 месяца назад

      She asked zero questions of substance.

  • @johnstewart579
    @johnstewart579 3 месяца назад +14

    Ellie proved herself to be the consummate journalist , Congratulations Ellie

  • @logicalfundy
    @logicalfundy 3 месяца назад +11

    7:37 - I think you're taking Elon out of context. The flap *with the heat shield in place* is supposed to survive, but the context of the discussion was the metal inside the flap *after the heat shield came off.* With the heat shield stripped away, the metal inside isn't supposed to take those temperatures, and that is what impressed him.

  • @Cybertruck1000
    @Cybertruck1000 3 месяца назад +7

    Considering Ellie has a long slog to get some of the complexity of a new subject for her, she held it together. I think Musk is well aware of Ellie's limits at this time and pitched his answers appropriately. Credit to Ellie and Credit to Elon. When you consider the amount of stuff Elon has to deal with he's to be applauded for the way he interacts with enthusiasts.

  • @ellieinspace
    @ellieinspace 3 месяца назад +8

    ELON DECLINED TO COMMENT ON ARTEMIS

    • @TheAngryAstronaut
      @TheAngryAstronaut  3 месяца назад +2

      I should've guessed. 😀

    • @JDKline
      @JDKline 3 месяца назад +1

      No kidding, it could have been a PR disaster for him if he did if he over promised or had he been negative. I'm more optimistic than before IFT-4 though. Sept 2026 isn't impossible but I have my doubts. Nice work like all of your interviews.

    • @minmo2288
      @minmo2288 3 месяца назад +3

      @@JDKlinebased on how things are progressing hopefully test flights will get more frequent and that helps move things along.

    • @zanelittlegray
      @zanelittlegray 3 месяца назад +2

      @@TheAngryAstronaut
      Yes, you should've guessed, seeing as how Musk puts brain into gear before operating mouth and you usually don't.

    • @JDKline
      @JDKline 3 месяца назад +1

      @@minmo2288 Yeah, the flight cadence picking up will solve a lot of these issues as long as there aren't any major issues or incidents requiring mishap reports.

  • @MrGeneralScar
    @MrGeneralScar 3 месяца назад +6

    8:00 Elon said he was surprised that it did survive as long as it did. Infering that once the heatshield was gone or sufficiently damaged, the steel as a bare unprotected surface shouldnt have been able to survive those conditions. The fact it survived as much as it did and was still usable after the heatshield was gone was the surprising bit. The flaps were designed to survive if the heatshield stayed intact. What you basically say in this video is that its your assumption that despite all the research and design done on the flaps, that you believe he meant they were not supposed to survive at all, which makes no sense. I think you should turn up the volume at watch and listen carefully to Elon's response to Ellie's question starting at 7:05 of this video.
    Elon's response (without the umms and ahhs): "I'm actually surprised the flap lasted so long. Once the heatshield tiles are gone, you really just have bare steel. Mostly just the SX300 steel alloy, it was actually quite surprising how well the steel held up despite the heatshield. I thought the flap would fail, its not supposed to survive that."
    Its very clear he is referring to bare steel (aka no heatshield), I think you may have been hearing what you wanted to hear right there. The design includes a heatshield, obviously its a weak point and the shield didnt hold up, tweaks will need to be made for next flight. You can only test so much with simulations, at some point you just have to send it and record the data. I am willing to bet they did simulate it and have identified that weak point. Otherwise why would Ship Gen2 have flaps of a different shape and mounted more leeward towards the non shielded side of the ship (as already advised by Elon in one of his interviews a while back)? This is just an older model ship and its good to get that data 1st hand to help build the next generation to be better.
    I found her interview to be awesome, I wished she asked some more pointed questions as well. But who knows maybe she did but was asked to cut them, or was told she cant ask them.

    • @jackeppington6488
      @jackeppington6488 3 месяца назад +1

      And just as important was Ellie's follow up: Does this validate the choice of stainless steel (over the original carbon fiber)? Of course, Elon said yes - but the context is that up to now it had been a theory, albiet well thought out. IFT-4 was the first in flight PROOF of the hardiness of stainless steel, and as Elon pointed out, the specific alloy they came up with. They now have hard emperical DATA - EVIDENCE insteaad of just modeling. When SpaceX said the payload is the data, this is what they meant.

  • @davidharness1507
    @davidharness1507 3 месяца назад +15

    As lovely as though Ellie seems she and her enthusiasm admirable she is not into the nuts and bolts of rocketery meaning there was no natural rapport.

  • @simonschaller857
    @simonschaller857 3 месяца назад +18

    I don'tthink the booster was on fire that loked like it was just the 1 failing raptor

  • @mikestrub3788
    @mikestrub3788 3 месяца назад +45

    Listen carefully to what Elon says when commenting about the failing flap...he didn't say that the flap wasn't to survive, only the naked steel.

    • @brianking992
      @brianking992 3 месяца назад +17

      I agree. The flap "wasn't supposed to survive" after the loss of the thermal protective tiles.

    • @NGM.I.G.
      @NGM.I.G. 3 месяца назад +6

      Mr.Flap is SpaceX Employee of the Month. Dont knock him! 😝

    • @GODSparken
      @GODSparken 3 месяца назад +9

      That is so obvious that makes me confused on why Jordan didn't get it

    • @NGM.I.G.
      @NGM.I.G. 3 месяца назад

      @synfiguring Many Thanks, we are about to relaunch it and I will be having our Producer from AA making some 'Guest Producer' episodes.

    • @jamskinner
      @jamskinner 3 месяца назад

      @GODSparken
      You hear what you want to hear.

  • @creightonfreeman8059
    @creightonfreeman8059 3 месяца назад +6

    I interpreted Elon to mean, and I believe this is what he meant, the steel fin was not supposed to be able to survive WITHOUT the heat shield. Once the heat shield was thoroughly compromised, the heat from surface/air friction heating during re-entry should have theoretically, weakened the steel to the point of failure, however it did not. The pivot point of the fin appeared to be a weak point in the heat shield and once plasma got under that it slowly eroded the shield back into the fin. How to put heat shielding on a pivot joint is the engineering challenge.

  • @djohannsson8268
    @djohannsson8268 3 месяца назад +5

    Ask about the possibility of a Space X Dragon ferrying a Starship flight crew to an already in-orbit Starship. Avoiding most of Starship's currently hazardous flight phases.
    Musk stated that before a manned mission launch is attempted, 100 successful launch/re-entries are required. But nothing was said about an already in-orbit Starship.
    A Dragon crew would dock with and transfer to Starship "after" its successful orbital launch, or refueling, execute their planned orbital mission and then return to Dragon "before" Starship's re-entry.
    This approach allows Starship to early execute in-orbit planned missions. Checking out Starship's critical systems and the crew's ability to work in a 0 g space environment. Dragon remains docked until the orbital mission is completed. Allowing parallel iterative improvements on launch/reentry systems, while concurrently working on future manned flight systems, required for Artimus.
    This accelerates Starship's program and emulates Apollo-like missions that were done in earth orbit, In preparation for the moon.

  • @scottymoondogjakubin4766
    @scottymoondogjakubin4766 3 месяца назад +8

    Im sure the great engineers at spacex will iron out all the challenges involved making starship work ! There are still alot of unknowns but she did great !

  • @TheGaussFan
    @TheGaussFan 3 месяца назад +5

    Awesome interview Ellie!

  • @antonnym214
    @antonnym214 3 месяца назад +14

    "Mars ain't the kinda place to raise your kids..." You shouldn't have kids on Mars until we're at the colony stage. While we're still an outpost or a research station, it is entirely too soon.

    • @ReiseLukas
      @ReiseLukas 3 месяца назад +2

      That seems pretty obvious to me.

    • @jeremyfarmer2502
      @jeremyfarmer2502 3 месяца назад +1

      In fact, it's cold as hell and there's no one there to raise them if you did.

    • @tankourito5419
      @tankourito5419 3 месяца назад

      Kids aren't being raised on Mars for at least another 50 years. That's so far away that it's a waste of time to think about it.

  • @asraharrison
    @asraharrison 3 месяца назад +4

    Keep in mind that Elon hadn't had a chance to meet with his team at the time of this interview (which he freely admitted). So, anything he had to say at that point wouljd be a SWAG! I don't think SpaceX had a chance to analyze the data yet. So anything Ellie would've asked him point blank, would've probably been met with "We don't know yet." And perhaps ITAR violations.
    I also think that SpaceX may already have been aware of the flaws with Version 1, and may already be incorporating this data into Version 2 or even later.... I think that Elon/SpaceX was already aware that this ship wouldn't survive reentry, but since it's version 1, it's expendable. But I also think even SpaceX/Elon were shocked (along with the rest of us) that a V-1 Starship survived until soft touchdown, especially watching all disintigration of the flap (and I'm pretty confident that all 4 of them suffered similar damage)! I think that SpaceX got a LOT of good data! I'm predicting that we may see some retrofitting of Version 1 starships, BUT, I think they have proven that they can get a payload to orbit... afterall, all the criticism is about reentry (which has never been done on this scale). So, this was a shocking success! I'm sooo glad that they changed the mission profile to attempt a soft landing with Starship... something they didn't even attempt w/ IFT3! Surprisingly rapid progress!
    I think that SpaceX has refocused their efforts on getting the booster back in one piece, and Starship for a later date... but they are no longer concerned with launching Starlink Sats, they need to work on Artemis/Moon mission goals first. I think the next few launches will be with outdated Starships to rid the Sanchez site of antiquated (read expendible) Starships. Sure, they will make progress with Starship uppers as well. But IMO, the focus of efforts on Booster issues first and foremost! I think that SpaceX has a goldmine in the SuperHeavy booster alone! Starship upper stage is just Icing on the cake! That damn booster is the most capable rocket EVER! I think it is obvious that the Government (ie military and NRO) have taken notice. They can fly any friggin thing they want on that booster, expendable or not. They don't really need the second stage, just the heavy lift capability. I can only imagine what they can do with a 9m fairing, with that sort of power. I think for Starlink, 100% resuability makes perfect sense, but to other customers, they may just want to tonnage to LEO regardless.
    I really don't follow Ellie, so I don't know why she conducted such a softball interview, but by the same token, this was a day or so after IFT4 and I doubt ELON was prepared to discuss specifics in any detail. I think Ellie did a fine job, yea, no one saw the bouy footage until after that interview... she would have never known to ask that question, nor would Elon have an accurate answer for it... it was not a know variable at the time of the interview! I too was taken aback about the "babies on Mars" question, but she has a female perspective, and I don't think Elon was prepared to answer it fully.... but I think he did a great job with it. That is sooo fucking far down the road, and his head is full of grid fins, hot staging, etc, that he's not really considering stuff like babies delivered in 1/3 gravity. That is beyond his scope! He is building a rocket to get us to Mars! He isn't as concerned with the details once we get there... he's merely providing the means to get the payloads there, and make it possible!
    Sorry for the long rant, But cut Ellie some slack and focus your "Angry-ness" on Starliner, lol.

  • @tommytrain
    @tommytrain 3 месяца назад +15

    Not supposed to survive without tiles Jordan. Stop it you're better than this

    • @cryptosupplyshop3425
      @cryptosupplyshop3425 3 месяца назад +7

      He hates SpaceX and Elon and you guys just keep sending him money! Its hilarious.

    • @JeffSmithbureau13
      @JeffSmithbureau13 3 месяца назад +4

      Yeah, pretty clear me meant once the tiles failed, the flap would not have been expected to survive.

    • @Dagobert-jw2lc
      @Dagobert-jw2lc 3 месяца назад

      @@cryptosupplyshop3425 He doesn't hate SpaceX, did you watch any of his videos?

    • @unotechrih8040
      @unotechrih8040 3 месяца назад +4

      Yeah, I mean I get that his schtick is to be angry and critical, but at least be angry and critical about real issues....

    • @tommytrain
      @tommytrain 3 месяца назад +3

      Yeah the other one in this was as soon as they are able to, I think this response was a bit more nuanced than Jordan makes it out to be. I've been a subscriber since the channel started and this is the only time I've thought he's put something disingenuous and tbh a bit shit up. I know it's not a criticism of Ellie but also why dear Ellie then. Really disappointed with Jordan here. Be angry. Rant, do it about real issues not whatever the hell this was.

  • @ronbyers9912
    @ronbyers9912 3 месяца назад +56

    There is a difference between a professional journalist and a social media influencer.

    • @cryptosupplyshop3425
      @cryptosupplyshop3425 3 месяца назад +6

      EXACTLY

    • @chrismoule7242
      @chrismoule7242 3 месяца назад +9

      Indeed...and when was the last time Elon did an interview with a journalist, I wonder?

    • @ReiseLukas
      @ReiseLukas 3 месяца назад

      A professional journalist is an endangered species nowadays. All those people in the mainstream media are not professional journalists. They're Yellow Journalists at best

    • @cryptosupplyshop3425
      @cryptosupplyshop3425 3 месяца назад +10

      @@chrismoule7242 if you consider Don Lemon a journalist? Ellie is a journalist! Jordan is not. Know the difference.

    • @monkeynomics8995
      @monkeynomics8995 3 месяца назад +6

      That's when I turned off this video. She is superficial and jordan celebrates HER just cause reasons.

  • @unknownsender3823
    @unknownsender3823 3 месяца назад +2

    Kids on Mars grow out of their custom fit expensive environmental suits so fast.

  • @michaellockey6414
    @michaellockey6414 3 месяца назад +6

    What he ment its not ment to be able to survive with out the shelds on it

  • @steve5090406
    @steve5090406 3 месяца назад +8

    Answer 1: A water deluge misting system can be incorporated on the chopsticks that can cool down and wash the booster and starship during catch.
    Answer 2: Artemis Lunar Starship is almost ready as it does not experience the re-entry heat as it does not re-enter, so very little testing required to complete objectives.
    Answer 3: Within the first 10 years Mars would be a very hostile environment for all especially kids, it is possible a medical facility can be built within a vertical or horizontal rotating platform as to create a 1G environment for the care of injured crew or even for pregnancy purposes.

    • @stephanbergmann8373
      @stephanbergmann8373 3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, there are so many obstacles to sustaining human life on Mars - but few people ever mention the dangerous consequences of low gravity on human physiology.

  • @jimhanty8149
    @jimhanty8149 3 месяца назад +8

    Maybe she’s trying to just get a good interview and not piss off Elon like that goober lemon guy…Ellie will get more interaction with Elon… Don won’t…….

  • @tonythigpen9415
    @tonythigpen9415 3 месяца назад +4

    You seemed to ignore at least two major item to make your points: 1) Flaps, tiles and catching does not matter to a moon landing, yet you put them together. 2) Elon has talked a lot about the initial placement of the flaps was too much in the plasma stream and that V2 would move the hinges more to the 'back side'. We just saw how much the hinge gap was affected on both the front and the back flap. These videos will help then with that redesign.

    • @asraharrison
      @asraharrison 3 месяца назад +1

      Agree! I think that a successful Booster recovery is the new shift in prority ATM. The payload it can deliver is mindblowing, expendable or not.

    • @aldunlop4622
      @aldunlop4622 3 месяца назад

      It's called the leeward side for future reference.

  • @pabloescobarr744
    @pabloescobarr744 3 месяца назад +5

    Whats the actual point of asking him a question he cant give an reply too ? i mean its pretty obvious the NASA knows that the timeline isnt going to work and will say so when its political acceptable to do so, how can you expect Elon to comment on that ahead of NASA?
    its like just designed to piss the guy off

  • @chipblood
    @chipblood 3 месяца назад +5

    To me, and I say this with great respect, her stuff (right now) is not for people wanting to dive into the more technical space news. I usually want those details so I tend to watch spacers that go into that. Her stuff is usually more general space news. I like Ellie's stuff but I watch her to see her and because she's fun and brings a unique perspective to the industry. We'll all have to see which direction she takes as a journo. One way or the other she adds to the spacing community.

  • @Pegaroo_
    @Pegaroo_ 3 месяца назад +5

    7:27 I think he means it shouldn't have survived once the heat tiles started coming off, he thought it would have disintegrated much quicker

  • @Mrewink5
    @Mrewink5 3 месяца назад +5

    @ Angry Gee-Whiz, Elon stated in the recent past that the fins on SS will be redesigned to better survive reentry. To me it's apparent SpaceX is sending the current versions into space to get valuable data in which not all of it is necessarily related to SS fins (ex., more booster data). Updated version of SSs takes time to construct. In the meantime sending current versions into space gives SpaceX more data instead of just waiting around. Important to note, the current test SSs are not being developed for human use, so they don't need to be nearly perfect. And lastly, the more SpaceX launches any SSs, the more all of us can be entertained!

    • @asraharrison
      @asraharrison 3 месяца назад +2

      I agree! SpaceX now know that the 180deg opposed flaps is a bad idea (and seemingly already knew that) but that is the design the came up with a few years ago, and have designed several SS's around that design! I think they will need to launch the current inventory, knowing they will have many problems with the Starship, but they will also gather valuable data! I doubt they will scrap the 3 (or so) starships already completed, but it is also important to test the booster! I think that IFT5 will mostly be focused on catching the booster, and not so much the orbiter... that being said, they may try to make some improvements on the SS orbiters to collect some data, and make improvements on the current design, but I feel that Version 2 of the orbiter will be drastically changed!

  • @orion_13
    @orion_13 3 месяца назад +5

    Oh, the tell-tell signs at 7 minutes when Ellie asked about the little flap that could. Hand through the hair, self-soothing, and shift in weight from one leg to the other, fight or flight response. This question was asked so eloquently it hit Elon and made him quickly think of a response.

    • @ellieinspace
      @ellieinspace 3 месяца назад +7

      Thank you for saying kind things about my questions!

  • @antonnym214
    @antonnym214 3 месяца назад +7

    She did a fine job AND you made some cogent points. I think, in the event of a fire, they should just land the booster in the bay in a shallow area so they can recover it. My questions for Elon: Does he have ideas about how to manage the heat tile problem? What is Elon's selection for the first landing site? What is the ideal size and composition of the first Mars crew? Would he consider a fuel depot on Phobos so they can do a propulsive instead of belly-flop landing on Mars? Then they could supply the depot with fuel made on Mars. Does he have a committee or group of people working on aquaponics? Has he finalized a design for the first group of habs, in terms of them being out in the open or sunk into a cliff?

    • @MarinaR-nb8vi
      @MarinaR-nb8vi 3 месяца назад

      I sent these questions and this video to Ellie on X. Hope she will use them next time.

  • @philipkudrna5643
    @philipkudrna5643 3 месяца назад +4

    I think, what Elon meant was that “once the heat shield failed, the flap wasn’t supposed to survive”. Still, the flap desintegrated only in an isolated part - and I think that is what surprised him. Obviously the problem was located at the lower end of the front flaps, the upper end seemed totally fine. So they probably simply have to improve the lower coverage - and put the flap a little more leeward (as he indicated), so that the slit at the hinge mechanism is “out of the prime plasma flow”, while the flap’s tip would still work as aerodynamic surfaces to control for the descent!

  • @snakevenom4954
    @snakevenom4954 3 месяца назад +7

    12:18. Leading scientists back in the day warned women about trains. That the high speeds could make their uterus fall out. What were the high speeds they were talking about? 8 miles per hour...
    It's very easy to say that scientists aren't good at predicting things

    • @OliverGrumitt
      @OliverGrumitt 3 месяца назад

      We now know that long term in weightlessness or in gravity lower than Earth’s is bad for your health, adults and even more so, children. It is bound to be bad for the health of a child not conceived in Earth’s gravity. So on this, there is good basis on which scientists warn about the effects of zero or lower gravity on a woman and her baby.

  • @tedspeers6334
    @tedspeers6334 3 месяца назад +4

    my take on "not expected to survive" is that he was referring to the steel structure once the tiles failed .. not to the tps

  • @johnrday2023
    @johnrday2023 3 месяца назад +2

    Nice to see you back Angry. How about supporting Spacex and request FAA to cease slow-walking FAA launch approvals for Spacex !

    • @Jogeta5
      @Jogeta5 3 месяца назад

      FAA did just that last month, they've changed the way mishap reports will be required so if no danger to humans, then the next launch can go ahead to be approved. They're changing how they handle launches to be batches so they can address the increasing launch cadence.

  • @jlmwatchman
    @jlmwatchman 3 месяца назад +2

    The best answer from Elon in Ellie's interview was after she asked if he expected to go to Mars. Elon said something like, Sure, if I live long enough. That made me think that Elon knows that we won't be going to Mars any time soon.

    • @marvindebot3264
      @marvindebot3264 3 месяца назад +1

      You need to consider that Elon has a responsibility to his company and arguably (and certainly in his eyes) a responsibility to mankind which means he can't just go jaunting off into an uncertain future. Elon will go to Mars when it is safe to do so and return is more or less a certainty not because he's afraid but due to those responsibilities.
      D. D. Harriman never set foot on the moon until the day he died for the same reason and face it, Elon = D. D.

    • @Jogeta5
      @Jogeta5 3 месяца назад

      That he won't be going anytime soon.
      Elon already pushed the estimated date to 2029 and 2031 for the cargo and manned Mars launches (possibly 2027 for the test launch) as he mentioned in Ellie's interview. They're still going to try and have the launches happen sooner rather than later.

  • @hansleijonmarck9768
    @hansleijonmarck9768 3 месяца назад +2

    Yes when listening to Ellies Elon interview it felt like really high quality.

  • @lemont64
    @lemont64 3 месяца назад +12

    Guys this channel is the angry astronaut..if he doesnt give us an angry view on space.... Then i dont know what he's doing😂

  • @JsStack
    @JsStack 3 месяца назад +3

    You will never know if you would get an interview until you ask.

  • @zebmason6530
    @zebmason6530 3 месяца назад +3

    I thought that the flaps are supposed to go through a major change with the next version of Starship anyway.

  • @classic_sci_fi
    @classic_sci_fi 3 месяца назад +2

    I believe he meant the fin was not expected to survive without the heat shield. It would be good to know how the other fins made out. You know they had cameras covering all of them. Did the change in heat shield adhesive applied to the nose cone and other sections apply to the fin hinges? Of course there were thoughts about the hinge area. The engineers had to know there would be a venturi effect through that hinge. He mentioned in the past that the fins might move more toward the leeward side. I suggest an additional guard overhanging the hinge to reduce the plasma torch effect. All things considered, the ship had to fly and there are three more ships to spare while practicing a chopstick catch for the booster.

  • @BrianKelsay
    @BrianKelsay 3 месяца назад +1

    I bet her questions were pre-viewed to make sure he has answers ready. But glad she had some different questions than most would ask and she was so professional.

  • @camarosspr
    @camarosspr 3 месяца назад +3

    One question to elon ????
    When is he going to spend a dollar $$
    On his health, a trainer, a chef of low calorie healthy food
    At 6:40 he's a massive block of lard
    Like 60 pounds of it
    One hamburger away from morbid
    5 hamburgers away from death
    Of course he's not a candidate for Mars
    Or even the moon
    And ozempic mounjaro, come on

    • @NickNackpaddywhack
      @NickNackpaddywhack 3 месяца назад

      I was thinking the same. He is a heart attack waiting to happen!

    • @kerigpope
      @kerigpope 3 месяца назад

      That's stress eating IMO.

    • @EMichaelBall
      @EMichaelBall 3 месяца назад +1

      The ozempic isn’t the panacea you think it is. Many people have had bad experiences with it.

    • @rbe3717
      @rbe3717 3 месяца назад +2

      Ellie is getting into that unhealthy range too.

  • @andyonions7864
    @andyonions7864 3 месяца назад +8

    Starship has been ready to go to orbit with 100+ tonnes for 3 months now. It currently could have a cadence of about one per month. Coming back is another story that is still relevant to SpaceX ONLY.

    • @tankourito5419
      @tankourito5419 3 месяца назад +1

      Once a month is just irresponsible. At some point, at least one of those first landings at Boca Chica will go horribly wrong. As in, the entire launch pad and surrounding facilities will be destroyed in a crushing inferno. Rushing into launches dramatically increases the chance of that happening.

    • @tankourito5419
      @tankourito5419 3 месяца назад

      Also, you're wrong. The ship is still literally falling apart as it goes into orbit. Putting 100 tonnes of whatever you want on there would just be sacrificing whatever it is.
      They should start with starlink satellites, seeing as they're easily replaceable and to be honest, not as important as contracts from other organizations. Before risking actual customer payloads.

    • @andyonions7864
      @andyonions7864 3 месяца назад

      @@tankourito5419 Starship was 100% fine as it got to just short of orbit.

  • @FerociousPancake888
    @FerociousPancake888 3 месяца назад +5

    I think we have to realize this interview happened a day after the launch, not a lot of time to review the data. She also likely cut out certain clips if she asked a question and got shot down. And she tends to put out a more lax surface type content and not in depth, which is totally fine, just different styles. Let’s wait for the Tim Dodd interview to come out.

    • @ReiseLukas
      @ReiseLukas 3 месяца назад +1

      Exactly

    • @andrejohnson7237
      @andrejohnson7237 3 месяца назад

      She just asked bs woman questions like get to the fucking meat and potatoes for fucks sake

  • @mikef.schwarzer2263
    @mikef.schwarzer2263 3 месяца назад +2

    The Differenz is, it is Suppossed WITH heatshields, not without.

  • @GreenPatriot2024
    @GreenPatriot2024 3 месяца назад +1

    Looks like Ellie had her questions written down, so she didn't have any follow up questions on any Elon answers.

  • @swapshots4427
    @swapshots4427 3 месяца назад +2

    I think the tower should have a poerful fire suppression system 15 or 20 feet above the launch table. or attached to chopsticks.

    • @Jogeta5
      @Jogeta5 3 месяца назад

      The current suppression system can blast way above the launch table, they dial it down.

  • @marvindebot3264
    @marvindebot3264 3 месяца назад

    Pretty sure that interview came as a surprise, as such it was an incredibly good job. Well done Ellie.
    And yes, Elon misunderstood the kids on Mars question.

  • @martinw245
    @martinw245 3 месяца назад +1

    Regarding the melting flap... I read that the next version will have the flaps moved, hence its current location a weakness.
    I read the flap will be moved leeward, so I presume less heating

    • @EMichaelBall
      @EMichaelBall 3 месяца назад

      That’s for V2 ships, at least three flights away.

    • @martinw245
      @martinw245 3 месяца назад

      @EMichaelBall
      Yes, that's my point. Hence why they knew the current flap position was a weakness.

    • @asraharrison
      @asraharrison 3 месяца назад

      @@EMichaelBall but in the mean time, why not fly a few expendable SS's that are already built, so they can REAL WORLD test the booster design... and improve on second stage performance as well.

  • @philipkudrna5643
    @philipkudrna5643 3 месяца назад +2

    I guess, Musk wouldn’t have been able to answer all your relevant questions at this stage, before they have finished their internal investigation.

  • @RickyDownhillRDH
    @RickyDownhillRDH 3 месяца назад +2

    Skip to 4:10...

  • @johnrday2023
    @johnrday2023 3 месяца назад +3

    Hey C'mon Angry, you can do better than that in continually questioning Spacex !

  • @mixbasterd
    @mixbasterd 3 месяца назад +21

    Why are we wasting time complaining about an interview. How about you land a Elon interview and show us how it done. “Not critiquing but” .

    • @cryptosupplyshop3425
      @cryptosupplyshop3425 3 месяца назад

      I just realized something...this is a " I hate Elon Musk " RUclips channel under the guises of " Im a jounalist and you just don't like my criticism " The Angry Astronaut found a way to attract Elon haters and space nerds. He should just double down on that and call it what it is - AA would make a LOT MORE MONEY! If AA just came out the closet as the Elon hater that he is - he could attract an incredible amount of new Patreons and subscribers. There are millions of crazy leftist, socialists, communists, facists, environmental whack jobs out there who would give him a dollar!

  • @koffeekage
    @koffeekage 3 месяца назад +2

    This flap has already been redesigned. Before the flight.

  • @sailingsomeday5975
    @sailingsomeday5975 3 месяца назад +3

    you are on the wrong contenant to interview Elon...you get other opertunities

  • @hi-q2261
    @hi-q2261 3 месяца назад +2

    I'm sorry to say this Angry But Ellie is a lot better looking than you are that might have something to do with how she got this interview 🤣

  • @sunkid86
    @sunkid86 3 месяца назад +1

    I don’t really get AA’s position and growing critique of SpaceX: NASA precisely knew where Starship is in its development, and the pressure of timeline is on Nasa in this case not SpaceX since they are progressing rather quick, and didn’t seem to have overpromised. Yes there are HLS dates but Nasa was aware of how much time that would take SpaceX to get there, and SpaceX should be compared to other landers rather then Orion or SLS. The Blue Origins lander are nowhere near the readiness of Starship, at least we saw practically zero hardware of it, not even final complete plans or animations so the anger or impatience regarding Starship imo is totally misplaced. Now SLS has been in the works for 20 years and just lately was delayed about 2-3 years so, when this happens to Starship it can be criticized.
    Regarding the landing: was it on fire or not. Hardly matters. This thing will be landing on the tower next year regurarly and delivering payload in 2 years in a stable manner.
    HLS is a rushed project and should not be a baseline to which other private projects are measured to, even when they are progressing well within their own projected pace, which is far above industry standards.

    • @tankourito5419
      @tankourito5419 3 месяца назад

      I agree with pretty much everything you said.
      It'll be nice to see starship in two years time, safely and efficiently getting things into orbit on a regular basis.

  • @616CC
    @616CC 3 месяца назад +3

    You misunderstood I think your theory of mind is poor, he said he’s surprised it survived because it’s not supposed to be able to survive (without the heat shield) not that the system as a whole isn’t supposed to survive. None of the ship would survive without a heat shield

  • @GoranXII
    @GoranXII 3 месяца назад

    You probably won't get an interview with Elon, but you've gotten a lot of press for the 'little guy' companies., which is a commendable thing in itself.

  • @rachelbrinkley3240
    @rachelbrinkley3240 3 месяца назад +6

    How angry of an interview would it be if our favorite angry astronaut interviewed Elon

    • @tankourito5419
      @tankourito5419 3 месяца назад

      Honestly, he's more pessimistic than angry. He's angry like 5% of the time, the rest of the time he's over analyzing unproven rumors or just talking normally, but in a negative way.

  • @geanozz8940
    @geanozz8940 3 месяца назад +1

    The reason you would never get an interview is because you're argumentative and would likely turn an interview into a debate. Big difference between a UTuber and a journalist, you seem to think that Space X owes you explanations and answers for everything, he doesn't owe you a thing thing mate.

  • @aldunlop4622
    @aldunlop4622 3 месяца назад

    I think you're misinterpreting what Elon meant. He meant it wasn't mean to survive (if the heat shield on the flap failed). He didn't mean the flap itself wasn't ever mean to survive.

  • @thomaslanders2073
    @thomaslanders2073 3 месяца назад +2

    On a side not Elon needs to hit the gym with some personal trainers if he wants to live long enough to get to Mars 🧐

  • @wthharrison7233
    @wthharrison7233 3 месяца назад

    Angry if you looked as cute as Ellie you might get an interview with Elon. Ellie proved herself to be the consummate journalist , Congratulations Ellie.

  • @jeremyfarmer2502
    @jeremyfarmer2502 3 месяца назад +2

    I watched this video out of morbid curiosity......here's my thoughts. You have had interviews with many people. Maybe one day you'll be able to ask elon a question. For now do what you do best, be angry and make alien video.

  • @COSMEREAUDIO
    @COSMEREAUDIO 3 месяца назад +2

    Why don't you ask?

    • @TheAngryAstronaut
      @TheAngryAstronaut  3 месяца назад +1

      I wish I could. As I explain in the video, I doubt Elon will ever grant me am interview.

    • @mikestrub3788
      @mikestrub3788 3 месяца назад +1

      @@TheAngryAstronaut Jordan, I've been a subscriber for a long time....and a business person for much longer, if you never ask, you will never know...stop speculating...ASK!!

  • @darthjarwood7943
    @darthjarwood7943 3 месяца назад +2

    Humans born on mars will adapt to mars gravity and pressure

  • @revmsj
    @revmsj 3 месяца назад

    That little booster fire will be no problem for stage zero as the water deluge will be active while landing…

  • @therealkosmic5064
    @therealkosmic5064 3 месяца назад

    Unlikely, but keep pushing for that interview

  • @nextlevelenglish5858
    @nextlevelenglish5858 3 месяца назад +1

    Next video: The Angry Astronaut debunks "flat earth". I mean these people are saying that space is fake and that you are basically making money off of gullible people. Let's hear your perspective.

    • @asraharrison
      @asraharrison 3 месяца назад

      Flat-earthers aren't worth the effort to debunk. Veritas recent'y put out a 7 hour video on this and it is painful to watch. Not worth the effort IMO.

    • @nextlevelenglish5858
      @nextlevelenglish5858 3 месяца назад

      @@asraharrison except for when they vote for people who defund NASA. Then you remember that China will continue to explore space. The result: China lands on the moon and on Mars, the U.S. does not. Then you remember that China is allied with Russia. Scary times are ahead.

  • @AMT42
    @AMT42 3 месяца назад

    I thought that last question she asked was downright weird and left of field. Which is probably why Elon answered the way he did. He is an Engineer not a Doctor etc.

  • @fan1701
    @fan1701 3 месяца назад +1

    Well, you must not have watched carefully to Elon's X posts where he basically answered the heat shield questions and flap questions in several key ways. I suggest you go back and listen and watch Elon's posts. The answers are already there. That Starship version was outdated already and future Starships have been modified in the area of the flaps.

    • @TheAngryAstronaut
      @TheAngryAstronaut  3 месяца назад +2

      So, why even launch a ship with such a massive defect if you're never going to launch it again? That's seems a rather dumb waste of a test flight. Just scrap the flawed ship and test the improved one!

    • @mikestrub3788
      @mikestrub3788 3 месяца назад +2

      @@TheAngryAstronaut Jordan, time is of the essence...besides, this is iterative design, so many other things to learn! Making it perfect is old school design...not bad, but flawed in the $ and time that it takes.

    • @EMichaelBall
      @EMichaelBall 3 месяца назад +2

      @TheAngryAstronaut To expand on Mike: Under your concepts of spaceflight, we wouldn’t have learned about the RCS icing problem as quickly. Notice it was fixed, already. Well, that’s because of IFT-3! Now IFT-5 can land the booster, and test the Pez dispenser and in-space relighting, completely unrelated to landing.

    • @Jogeta5
      @Jogeta5 3 месяца назад +1

      @@TheAngryAstronaut SpaceX told us why. The payload for flight 4 was data, and they got a lot of important data from that flight.

  • @contestvoter
    @contestvoter 3 месяца назад

    I wonder why they don't use a hopper type lander with pins added to give mechazilla something safe to catch?

  • @libertykrueger1433
    @libertykrueger1433 3 месяца назад

    Gestation on Mars could be done entirely in a high speed maglev train on a circular track if the 1/3 gravity becomes an issue. That would simulate something closer to 1G using centripetal motion.

    • @aldunlop4622
      @aldunlop4622 3 месяца назад

      Yeah, but they don't have one of them on Mars, and are pregnant women supposed to live on your train for 9 months? Assuming gestation is still 9 months on Mars.

    • @libertykrueger1433
      @libertykrueger1433 3 месяца назад

      @@aldunlop4622 It’s not very likely that pregnancy will be a priority very early on during the colonization of Mars. It will be very difficult just staying alive. However, once the colony has a chance to build and grow, it shouldn’t be very difficult to build a large diameter circular maglev facility to conduct the necessary gestation studies at progressively lower and lower G levels to determine if there are any negative developmental issues with pregnancies on Mars.

  • @williamjohn4984
    @williamjohn4984 3 месяца назад

    I would delete this video Ellie is your homegirl and a sweetheart.Its isn't worth it people will hate in the comments

  • @bensolo9418
    @bensolo9418 3 месяца назад

    He meant the flap os not supposed to withstand such temperatures once the tiles are gone

  • @CrimsonTemplar2
    @CrimsonTemplar2 3 месяца назад +1

    Based on other interviews I’ve seen with him I doubt he’d play along with someone going off script.

  • @billsimpson604
    @billsimpson604 3 месяца назад

    With NO escape system, that Starship needs landing legs. Trying to catch it is way too risky for any crew. Moon in 2 years, I wish I could bet some cash on that. Gestation might be impossible on Mars. We evolved in 1 G.

  • @mutleyeng
    @mutleyeng 3 месяца назад +4

    dude, you're not an engineer are you. You dont throw solutions at things until you know exactly the problem you need to fix, and you dont throw extra weight until you know where you have no choice but to add additional solutions, which invariably means weight. You could easily build a starship that would be almost guarenteed to surive re-entry, but it be so damn heavy and expensive it would never get off the ground.

    • @asraharrison
      @asraharrison 3 месяца назад

      Agree! Spaceflight is HARD, but Elon has the balls to stick to his progrssive design approach... build it, watch it fail, learn from it, rinse and repeat! I think this is why Falcon9 is arguably the most successsful rocket in history. He ins't afraid to test an unproven design, and watch it fail, learn from it and make corrections. All other legacy launch systems focus on getting it right the first time... and spend much more money, trying to avoid getting data from failures! But at a pace that takes decades.

  • @Rugmunchersauce3
    @Rugmunchersauce3 3 месяца назад +2

    Nice one, thanks Mr Angry.

  • @Darcalpha
    @Darcalpha 3 месяца назад

    Not surviving without tile, I think he meant.

  • @allanrose3661
    @allanrose3661 3 месяца назад

    I am wondering about the location of the 2nd pad causes launches from it to overfly the 1st pad and tank farm.

  • @harmankardon478
    @harmankardon478 3 месяца назад

    “According to science” coming from a media interview, elon would have loved that...

  • @SebastianKrabs
    @SebastianKrabs 3 месяца назад

    Beauty and the Beast indeed. 🤭

  • @robwalmsley8235
    @robwalmsley8235 3 месяца назад +1

    Dear angry....love your content but you need imo to ease up on the negative assumptions...that flap may have lost a tile so not fair to assume they all sustained damage.... even in awful condition the flap remained functional if maybe not fully effective under extreme circumstances....the vehicle managed to do some degree of flip manoeuvre suggesting flaps were basically operational and as yet there is no reason to "assume" it wasnt fully successful even with the damaged flap.... as said earlier i love your content and appreciate the need to be objective...but dont see any benefit to negative assumptions....objective yes....negative no...stay safe angry...all the best

  • @YellowRambler
    @YellowRambler 3 месяца назад

    A little confused about your coverage remarks regarding the re-entry fin problem? In Elon previous comments he mentioned this possible issue along with fixes if needed, he also repeated himself over and over again that the best part is no part, we now for sure that extra parts are needed and exactly what is needed because of re-entry data so there actually no problem here!

  • @bobbastian760
    @bobbastian760 3 месяца назад

    Elon concentrating under those circumstances was impressive...

  • @DavidGreen-n1s
    @DavidGreen-n1s 3 месяца назад

    I don't ALWAYS come.HERE to be "EDUCATED"......
    I more often than NOT
    come "HERE" to find a FEASON to be "EXCITED "❤😊❤
    *edited.to.say "SCREW spelling, yall get.the POINT)

  • @mr.transposon5017
    @mr.transposon5017 3 месяца назад

    There's going to be a significant less amount of fuel. An explosion will likely be relatively small and the FAA hurdle will be quickly passed

  • @joezolo9986
    @joezolo9986 3 месяца назад

    I agree, the rocket ship looked to be on fire at landing. I would wait at least one more launch before the chip-stick landing.
    Elon said the rocket landed about 6 KM away from. The only video of the landing that I saw, was from a buoy in the water. It wasn't 6 KM away. A couple of hundred meters, maybe.
    Good question about children on Mars. I don't think they would be able to come to Earth if born on Mars. I'm curious as to the difference when going through puberty. Would a child be thinner AND taller, due to the reduced gravity.

    • @joezolo9986
      @joezolo9986 3 месяца назад +1

      FYI, we in the US throw away enough food to feed most of the rest of the world. We don't have a shortage of food. We may even have a shortage of people soon.

    • @EMichaelBall
      @EMichaelBall 3 месяца назад +1

      @joezolo9986 Don’t worry; Brandon has done plenty over the past three years to deal with any shortage of people in the USA. Well, at least in numbers. Can they perform the technical and STEM jobs that will be in demand? Well….

  • @shrijatmajumdar2588
    @shrijatmajumdar2588 3 месяца назад

    Hey, we get it you have to put a disclaimer about not criticising her, but don't put up 4.5 min long disclaimer in a 14 min video

    • @TheAngryAstronaut
      @TheAngryAstronaut  3 месяца назад +1

      It was a waste of 4.5 minutes. Plenty of people still think I was criticizing her.

    • @shrijatmajumdar2588
      @shrijatmajumdar2588 3 месяца назад

      @@TheAngryAstronaut Don't care about them man, people gonna find any way to hate on you

  • @kanahn7402
    @kanahn7402 3 месяца назад +1

    Armchair quarterback says what

    • @kanahn7402
      @kanahn7402 3 месяца назад

      Lol, u called yourself one like a second after I posted that 😂

  • @FiryaFYI
    @FiryaFYI 3 месяца назад

    The chritisism about the flap shows you are missing the entire point of how spacex conducts things, and are the reason you feel that you wont get a similar interview.
    Like your content but that was unvalid.

  • @keithmcknight7646
    @keithmcknight7646 3 месяца назад

    Ellie, LOSE the dark eye shadow 😖, but good interview 👍🏽

  • @starman2337
    @starman2337 3 месяца назад +1

    Will water deluge be available and operated during a tower landing?

  • @glenngoodrich5244
    @glenngoodrich5244 3 месяца назад

    Angry those are all great questions but you know how he would answer them. He operates on Elon time, so of course he would say yes we can make it!

  • @ARWest-bp4yb
    @ARWest-bp4yb 3 месяца назад +1

    Hasn't NASA already walked back the 2026 landing? Sure I heard something recently about mission timelines being pushed out.🤔

    • @FerociousPancake888
      @FerociousPancake888 3 месяца назад +1

      Pretty sure they have only publicly walked back Artemis 2, so it’s to be expected that later missions would also be pushed.

    • @asraharrison
      @asraharrison 3 месяца назад +2

      Yea, I don't think Artemis will be waiting on SpaceX... it will be the other way around. SpaceX has already proven that they can PROVE things that were impossible before they did them. So I think Starship will be no different... in fact probably much more accelerated, given the success of Falcon9 and the skills that SpaceX has with their iterative design approach. So, it seems obvious that SpaceX it accelerating their goals and ambitions with SS. It is astounding that on the 4th flight of this system that they achieved sooo much. And their knowledge grows with leaps and bounds! We will probably see 6 more flights in the next year and remarkable improvement in the entire program... So, I doubt that Artemis will be waiting on SpaceX to get their shit together! Hell, SLS's GSE is gonna take a year to repair, and the rocket itself isn't ready to fly again... they aren't waiting on SpaceX.

  • @jessec3609
    @jessec3609 3 месяца назад

    Also maybe try landing on a drone ship?🤷‍♂️