Just wanted to point out that several of the big distros, Ubuntu, Fedora and OpenSuse are signed with the MS secure boot key, so you do not need to disable secure boot.
@@treyquattro Sure, that's a fair point. I've had the same issue in Windows where I have to disable to the system driver signature verification when using "non authorized" drivers.
Your issue with the BIOS isn't a Linux issue and has everything to do with the manufacturer of your computer. This is the same set of issues in Windows as well, just look at the issues people had when upgrading to Windows 11 for many people because of the TPM requirement.
This is not about "why Linux is worse than Windows", but about "why Linux is bad in my opinion". It's not working out for them, so it is not a good experience, regardless of whether other OSs have similar issues or not.
No i`t`s a linux issue BIOS makers cannot and will not make exeptions for less than 1% of users, so the blame is on linux. It should just be better after all we are not living in the dark ages anymore.
@@muadrico Any modern mobo with default bios settings will install windows. You can go into the bios to tune settings and make it faster. But windows will still install. I really don`t know about linux but i presume it`s the same. Having linux issues with the bios which make it mandatory to enter the bios is as problematic as the whole windows tpm farce. But atleast you are not dependent on the hellish linux community to get your problems fixed.
00:26 Difficult to install 03:01 Hardware compatibility 04:46 Command line is inevitable 06:48 Limited software availability 07:41 Too many distros 08:34 Too many desktops 09:31 Program installation 10:38 Pre-installed apps 11:20 Linux Games 12:22 Troubleshooting
@@aaron6841 The paradox of choice is an observation that having many options to choose from, rather than making people happy and ensuring they get what they want, can cause them stress and problematize decision-making. 😥
@@technolus5742 if you want 0 choice and want to be locked into a ecosystem use windows or mac! All this bullshit about making Linux useable for everyday consumers is rubbish there are already operating systems for these people we don't have to destroy Linux to appease everybody.
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My experience with Linux was pretty much like this. But I discovered immutable systems and that fixed most of these issues except program compatibility. I do not own an Nvidia card so i have no driver issues also Oh also ever since Steam and Proton, gaming is no longer an issue unless your game has an aggressive anticheat
@@makhan28 i use fedora kinoite because i prefer KDE Plasma, but it's still a bit unfinished compared to silverblue and there is no GUI to update the system yet
I have been using Linux for about 20 years. Used it for about 7 years for my main system. I still love it for servers and embedded systems, but for a desktop I switched back to windows. Especially the fragmented side of things and always having to fiddle around for many evenings or even weekends. Like you said, with a job and family to take care of, I just don't have time for it. As well as the non-stop "solutions", that are extremely often a half baked work-around. Including this was 4 times when I was completely locked out my OS because of some bad software updates (those were auto updates from the package manager). Since the bad direction Windows 11 is going atm, I might to go back at some point maybe.
Gaming is so much easier now that Steam has developed Proton. Mostly those games that are the last to enable EAC need a lot of tinkering. But there are exceptions, of course, including indies.
The first part is exactly the same with windows installation. And probably dependign on the hardware, you could face something similar in windows, but yes, most laptops are made with windows in mind and tested with windows, so very unlikely :)
7:48 Pro tip: go for the top most popular distros and pick the one you think looks nice They are the ones most likely to have the most support Also, I don't quite understand why having multiple desktops be a bad thing Just use any one of the more popular desktops. Since the features there are all usually enough Having so many desktops for different purposes here for advanced users balances out with having complete desktops like Plasma or Gnome for beginners
The problem isn't really in the desktops. But more in the fact that, even in open source, there is a limited number of persons that work in this domain. And so the development effort is distributed across all of them. And while I wouldn't say that desktops as different as KDE and gnome are compatible. Some of them could just be customization option of others. And the same could be said about many types of fork and projects.
@Orobas 66 not really Popularity is a good indicator for the support it receives It's much more difficult to screw up with that than a random obscure distro that some random people recommend for some specific features Also, I doubt I'd recommend debian to anyone tho I've always heard that it's prone to driver issues My personal recommendation is kubuntu since it combines the good parts of Ubuntu and removes the bad parts
I would just say start with Ubuntu, get used to it, then ask a different question later on "what do I use my computer for" and "what annoys me most about Ubuntu", then look at other distros.
Just for your information. All operating systems, including Windows, struggle with booting from USBs thanks to Microsoft making companies change the BIOS for "security" reasons. I put it in quotes because the Black Lotus malware uses these features specifically to hijack Windows while Linux is inmune to it. Installing Linux is easy, what is difficult is your laptop's BIOS/hardware :)
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@user You literally just described the process that you have to do in Linux as well. Think before you type.
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@user I never have had to turn off secure boot. Maybe your motherboard is garbage, which happens, and Windows can have trouble with certain motherboards as well.
I have the finger print reader in my Lenovo laptop, works without any problem with the right driver. Found it online and installed it without much problem.
11:02 Calender? I think that's a personal issue on your side I don't see how a default calender app is useless If you want as little apps installed by default, choose minimal install for your Linux distro Also, I personally recommend kde apps that come with any kde plasma distro Those apps are simple and overpowered
Nothing is easy for new users because they are a new users. If you swixh from windows to mac os and vice versa things may look wierd. Some things look and feel wierd when you change one windows version to another. Using a cli is a bad thing why?
You're implying that the only thing contributing to the Linux learning curve is that it's a different platform, which is inaccurate. Basic QoL features expected of a modern desktop OS are missing from every distro, every DE. If you expect a platform to be usable by anyone besides tech enthusiasts, CLI usage must be optional (not that the skill isn't useful!)
@@tumescent "CLI usage must be optional (not that the skill isn't useful!)" It is optional on many distros. If one want to completely avoid terminal aka cli then he / she got lots of options / distros that will spoon feed you. Cli is the only option in some cases (when something breaks gravely) Even on windows in some cases the only thing that can save a sorry user as* is powershel. Of course you have the option of reinstall your system from the scratch. You can do the same on linux. But we prefer not to . If you have backup. You can use linux without cli for years. But Being lazy is better. We must change good tools, because lazy people who refuse to learn anything want to use them. No thx just go user something else. We do not give an F if you think we are toxic. Try your it must be optional wit bsd people, good luck with that."Basic QoL" WTF are you talking about, basic quality of life are missing from some os. Linux is not a basic need that's a first. Its a tool, like it use it, dont like it then don't. Yes i definitely implying that the main difficulty of linux is a lack of understanding that this is not a windows but different looking. It is a different system period. Same goes with bsd , windows or mac os
yeah bro it's right but when i was trying to get ubuntu first it was the hardest part for me in linux cuz i was beginner, yeah if i was a mac user and switching to windows it will hard for me for the first time, so it's not mean it's hard to install linux, but cuz of windows is pre installed it feels hard for the first time
1 - Using partitioning to install is not more difficult than using a Mac or a Windows computer installer. For someone who has bever used a computer, installing Windows is not always so easy. You react by comparing with what you already know. You are not supposed to do anything in the bios, excepted maybe disabling Secure Boot. To install Windows, you sometime also need to enter the bios. This is not Linux specific. So your first point is invalid. 2 - I never had any problem to install a printer. In fact, you can still use old printers, for which there's no more driver for Windows. Installing priopretary video cards drivers is very difficult. On most distro, you need to click "Yes" and type a password. That's crazely difficult ... 3 - if you use a user friendly distro, as you say, no need of command line. So what's the point here ? Complaining some distros a beginner won't use need command line ? That's just stupid. There are graphical interfaces for rsync or any other way to save your datas. So once again your point is not valid. 4 - Too many distros and desktops... Well, what's the problem ? There are too many car models in the world. Why don't we all drive the same ? Maybe because we have the choice, and can use the one that fits our need ? Really, is it a problem to complain about ? In fact, even if there are 600 distros, people usually use Ubuntu, Debian, RedHat, Arch or Suse. So where 's the problem ? I won't say Linux is perfect. But most of your complains are not valid. I've been using it as my main Os since 1998 ...
Troubleshooting I think has less to do with Linux and more to do with what you’re doing on your computer. I used windows for 15 years before switching to linux for my desktop usage, and I can tell you I had to troubleshoot PLENTY of stuff on Windows. And not even just cause I was tinkering with stuff; programs crash, updates break things, all the same on Windows as on Linux. I can hardly even say it happens more on Linux, as if you aren’t savvy enough to start doing the things that could easily break stuff in Linux, you won’t even know to do them. Normal desktop usage in the most popular distros (Fedora, Ubuntu, Leap) has been prime-time grade in my experience. Of course, I will admit that this isn’t the case everywhere, though. Talking of hardware, even popular distros can struggle to support everything in a laptop right out of the box. But it’s definitely getting better!
Fedora has been a great distro for me for 15 years. Linux gets tricky when you distro hop - different package managers, different desktops, etc, etc. Fedora, Gnome, DNF. Easy peasy....And totally awesome.
@@towardsthelight220 That's the great think about Linux.....flavours for everyone. I am a simple guy. I want simplicity, safety, stability, and ergonomics. Fedora attains those things more or less. If you want something more whizz bang, then sure, Arch variants, go for it. What I don't understand is how anyone can use Windows. Seriously. And I think if you are porting from Windows, something like Fedora or Ubuntu is the obvious choice.
But why?, but people should try themselves to find which distro is easy peasy for them. I too was in illusion that rhel based distro were hard... but I am really surprised with what I missed by others opinions when I found out how amazing Fedora is.
The two biggest problems with Linux that I have are the lack of a binary device driver interface and the excessive interdependency of software packages.
if you don't want any inter-dependency at all... install flatpaks. Everything is contained with in the flatpak. You can delete it, and it will go, and not effect anything else. Maybe it is the type of Linux you used.... I haven't had problems with Mint, Ubuntu or Debian.... and no doubt there are a few other distro's that work equally well also. The latest Mint, on a fresh install, just worked..... including all the devices plugged into the PC, some of them used to be hard to get to work. Not this time. Any problems , check that your kernel is up to date, particularly if using the latest hardware. A kernel upgrade worked for a problem that I did encounter with a new, latest and greatest PC. Otherwise, no problems.
in half a year of daily driving linux i've had more problems, issues, inconsistencies and general bs than in 20+ years of running windows. the help from both distro (fedora) and de (plasma) communities was underwhelming at best, so some issues were left unresolved. and there was no actual pragmatic reason to run linux instead of windows workflow/possibilities-wise. best case scenario is you run the same software and non-native works through wine. worst case is you're left hanging. i was pretty surprised that even the most basic thing such as media playback, both music and video, is inferior on linux. you can only go that far on pure curiosity and philosophical preferences and disdain towards microsoft - at the end of the day you just need to do stuff.
things you don't like about linux is "you have to install linux compared to windows or mac, which just comes preinstalled in most of the devices"? I think even installing the other OSes are also similarly complicated.
The command line is by far my favorite fetaure, and far from a disagvantage to me but i get that it scares people away, and if your hopping around distros i undertand the anoyance and its a big part of why i stopped hopping in the first place :)
Remember, every computer was once DOS or UNIX based, or ran on a similar terminal OS. People were comfortable with command lines as late as 1998 (you still had to boot into DOS to play DOS games).
people arent scared...im not scared....We're insulted....ive been using linux for over 10 yrs..im insulted. create a gui...its 2023..ive been in cab in the 3rd world with a gui on the payment machine. we're asking for a check box or one of those little info popups not elden ring graphics... my computer will do those graphics....why am i looking at a black screen and text? the world IS willing to pay!!...half of whats awesome about linux is locked away in CLI.
It always baffles me when Linux users say linux work's flawlessly and is way more stable than windows, and it runs every game, or etc, like dude are we living in the same universe? I tried Linux many times and every time something broke, (mint, Ubuntu,pop_os, fedora, etc), they say it's actually not Linux fault and it's because of the developers and other companies not developing for Linux, but i DON'T care, why, it just doesn't work...
so the people providing software from other companies aren't correctly writing it for linux? That's the software peoples fault. Underneath, the LINUX is still working fine... And if you want a distro that just works, I just fresh installed Linux Mint 21.3...... and everything just worked out of the box.... including some previously hard to get working accessories plugged into the USB... it all just went. The new Debian 12 has good reviews too, but I haven't tried it yet. Oh those problems with software that won't work on your Linux.... well do they work on Windows?
I would add to you thoughts that another problem of Linux is toxicity of most Linux communities. For example it is normal in Arch Linux community to hate Ubuntu or even Fedora users instead of concentrating efforts in making Linux better. Agree with you that the fragmentation of Linux distros are very harmful to reliability. We should better have a few but stable and reliable distros. Anyway all that diversity of distros can be narrowed to main distros on which them are based - Debian (Ubuntu), Fedora, Arch... Greeting from Ukraine!)
I totally agree with you. I have been using Windows for years and because I am a programmer many of my friends and colleagues tried to convince me to move to Linux. These Windows haters then turned against themselves when I asked which distro to use. Eventually I tried Mint but then got criticised again for not using other distro. So in a nutshell, whether I use Windows or Linux I Will get criticised not matter what. I moved to Windows and is now happy and content and really could not care less. Why am I still following this channel, beacause I love to learn and the fact that this presenter is super amazing, straight to the point and honest
I installed MX Linux , but there is no app for connecting my phone network provider internet to the Linux but there is for windows. And the window 7 verison works for win 11. Windows all the way . We just need a way to customize windows like Linus tec said
@Average Linux User, The one thing Linux should incorporate is device manager like windows, my Ubuntu upgradation changed driver settings and my touchscreen driver made mouse pointer dangling, opening random apps and I couldn't find a clear and safe way to disable touchscreen. Linux community should look into providing GUI for device manager
Thats not a bad idea. It could scan services and kernel mods and cross that with /dev and /sys. Till then you can use the mod commands (lsmod rmmod etc) and lsusb, lspci, and lsblk. And look in /sys and /dev. Gparted is a decent gui block device manager.
these guys are both exactly what drives new users AWAY from linux... if its stuck in terminal/CLI = Linux CANT do it = this feature doesnt exist. its 2023 not 1993...everything has a gui now...dishwashers, fridges, payment devices in the back of a cab in the 3rd world........linux has been refusing a gui device manager for almost 20yrs... they want you to buy a book thicker than a bible memorize it and sacrifice your family while your 4k monitor and $500 graphics card can display a black screen and text like 1990s Dos..... meanwhile none of the rest of us have seen anything like that in 15+ years on a PC or EVER on a phone
Thank the developers for lusting to touch every piece of software or code in any distro of Linux....They don"t live by the motto: If it's not broke, don't fix it. And further, they need to learn how to program using abstract code. I would even argue rewriting all of Linux in C++.
"if it ain't broke, don't fix it" "I would even argue rewriting all of Linux in C++" Actually impressive. I couldn't contradict myself harder even if I tried
this video is wrong in so many ways, but most confusing claim for me is this distro hopping and "dispersion" taken as a downside. If you're a beginner, you will not distrohop enough to be confused with "different ways". If you like distrohopping that much, youre not a beginner anymore and you shurely have to realize advantages of this "dispersion" by now. No, you dont need to use terminal. No, its not more difficult to install than Windows on a blank PC and if you compare it to preinstalled pc then it's not a fair comparison... just buy a laptop with preinstalled Linux then. No, installing software is easier than Windows and centralized in a single "store app". My 80 year old non-htech father is using Linux Mint for last six years without a glitch. Yes he didn't install it, I did it, but 10 years ago, with Windows, I had frequent visits to him to fix system issues. Last time I logged in on his PC was when I installed it.
I personally don't agree with "difficult to install" Linux, or Popular Linux distros is far easier and less time consuming than Windows for the installation Partitioning isn't even a necessary thing to learn for the install since there even is an automatic partition selecting mode in most installers
1. difficult to install - subjective, it really depends on whether or not you've installed windows before on your own using install media. that said secure boot is the issue that only a couple distros even try to work around. the current problem right now is needing to disable it every time you want to update your nvidia driver with your kernel updates. that's honestly pretty annoying even for an experienced user. 2. hardware compatibility - this is fairly true with more obscure hardware, and to some extent some fairly common ones(usually wifi). am surprised you had a problem with your finger print reader. Mine works fairly well, but then again mine is an ancient T2400 laptop. the mic issue is an interesting one. for me I have a lot of background noise so it's not something i'd notice. I just slap on a noise gate/suppression in OBS and it's fine. but given that it's specific to that laptop, it could be an issue with the USB port(s) if it's a USB mic. my condenser mic had an xlr to USB connector, and it'd pick up line noise because it was powered off of the USB port. swapping ports would occasionally fix the issue. 3. command line is inevitable - sadly, another true statement. something will eventually bork, and you'll end up needing to issue CLI commands to fix. 4. Limited software availability - not really true if you're willing to learn a new work flow and pick up an alternative. this requires time however, and time is in short supply for some. 5 & 6. too many distros/desktop environments - I've been banging this fragmentation drum since 2008, but nobody's listening. 😢 Personally i'd rather have 3 or 4 major projects and scripts to add in the customizations that the various derivatives provide, as opposed to having a million derivatives dividing up the focus of talented devs. 7. program installation - There are a lot of ways to install programs, that differ depending on the distro you're on, but the only one that's a bit annoying to deal with is source code. 8, Preinstalled apps - I think this is mostly a preference things, that said there are a lot of distros that provide a minimum installer(though more doing this would be nice). 9. Gaming - gaming on linux IS annoying for sure, but for me it mostly boils down to nvidia and proton not playing nice with each other if you also have an integrated GPU...I'm almost more inclined to blame nvidia there than valve. Not saying it's not proton's fault entirely, as this appears to be a WINE, in general, issue. basically WINE and proton will ignore your preferences and run on the integrated GPU instead of the discrete GPU. I still haven't found a way to fix this, so i've kinda abandoned that and gone back to windows for my gaming. However, If nvidia were more willing to play ball we could get a lot of things done, such as fixing the above issue, or finally giving X11 the axe and moving onto wayland. Then of course you have the Anti-cheat software which doesn't really do it's job on any platform in the first place. it's basically DRM 2.0 and it's even more craptastic. 10. Troubleshooting - fair enough, yeah, the average person doesn't have a spare couple hours(or days depending on the problem) just to hunt solutions down
I think the biggest problem that keeps Linux from progressing is the Linux community I keep seeing people refusing to accept that Linux is hard to use and unfriendly to the average user
If you're trying to install into a drive that was used before, find a way to low level format that drive - or else, there's a chance you'll get a kernel panic situation with your installation media. Basically, your installation process will stall on you.
"low level format" means something else and can only be done using manufacturer tools. You mean: Re-formatting a partition, as some installers are not aware of existing directory trees, or come across the idea, of saving the old data/system there to a renamed tree (like Windows does), and offer taking over infos from /etc and /home.
The larger, more well-known distributions of Linux are almost mindless installs unless you plan to install several OSes. Installing Linux with Windows is pretty much automatic and easy. I can do a fresh install of Linux Mint 21.1 with updates in about twenty minutes. As far as hardware goes, the only issue I have ever had is with WiFi dongles, which many manufacturers do not provide Linux drivers for. And yes, the command line is inevitable, but for 90% of cases, very simple. Software availability really depends on your needs. I have never had any issues finding the software I need with Linux. Some FOSS software is great, some not so great, but there are almost always solutions. For the record, I use Windows and Linux equally and don't find either one particularly difficult ;)
Well yeah initial setup can be a hassle but i just did a shell script after getting a stable distro, and if i am adding removing something i just update my script each time. If need to reinstall or setup on another machine i just bring my script from my github private repo, and in less then 30 minutes i have 1 - 1 replicate to my environment without even needing a browser on the machine, heck i don''t even need a GUI, it works from the terminal setups everything on it's own.
Couldn't you have just said that it's only for super users? Linux pc distributions are currently by no means user friendly, it's not like someone can recommend it to a 40 years old mother that still uses windows 7 on her 2011 laptop.
No, you could literally replace it with Linux, and she may not even notice her os changes at all, genuinely would just use it for web browsing and other basic stuff. The only advantage windows has over it is that everyone is already used to it and it takes time to unlearn, and then relearn something else.
@@bigbruv5328 you mean chrome os. I was talking about running programs that normally runs on windows. Not everyone can get comfortable with troubleshooting wine. But if all that someone is going to do is using online tools or surfing the web then linux is more than perfect.
What bothers me is almost every time they update things, I lose the vertical scroll arrows on the scrollbars. Sometimes modifying the GTK config files fixes it but this last time it didn't so most of my applications don't have a vertical scroll arrow. I prefer the scroll arrows. Others say to just use the wheel of the mouse but this is a pain and doesn't work as well as clicking the arrows and moving the scrollbar moves it too much. The problem is many see these arrowless vertical scrollbars as "cool" but for some it is a usability issue and they should have the freedom to choose to have the vertical scroll arrows.
@@mfThump I'm not requesting help. I'm just explaining my personal opinion of Linux. It also happens in multiple distributions so it isn't just my distribution. Even if I do fix it, it will stop working again during a future update.
@@daniellesmith5950 I'm using FreeBSD and the mouse scroll stops work sometimes, so annoying, but I also use Linux (Void Linux). What distro do you use?
I use Linux Mint 21.1. I never had any install problems. I rum it on 2 desktops. My laser printer works just fine on Linux Mint. I use Cinnamon desktop, never any problems. I always lookup different ways to run programs that I need. I found ART for Linux to help process RAW photos from my Canon M6II camera. It is not super easy to use Linus but it isn't too difficult. I don't have windows and don't need windows.
Biggest problem is Software Compatability Issues even for CS Students where Win or Mac version are readily available in many IDEs & Data Analysis packages❗️❓️
pretty accurate. Gaming has come a long way, it's not to total compatibility yet, but proton has been a godsend. in regard to troubleshooting, I'd argue that macOS is the only alternative that doesn't suffer from it. However, most windows issues can be ignored by the end user through a reboot. In linux, when something breaks, it usually needs intervention
That's something I've observed about Windows as well. Windows has so many self-diagnosis and repair systems running in the background. On the flip side to the magic reboot fix, you often have to fight Windows' attempts to fix itself to gain any handle on things if the problem lingers around. That's why I keep saying "I prefer Linux not because it breaks less, but because it breaks reliably".
@@PixLgams And if Linux does break, you can usually fix it by reading the logs if you understand how things work. On Windows, good luck, usually reinstall the entire OS again.
Good to hear the truth for one time's sake. Software compatibilities is mentioned in passing but is actually the major problem. Try to install Maya/Arnold/ Substance Painter/ Photoshop and other Adobe products + the 20-30 most used applications in content digital art on some Linux distros. How many man-months tinkering and relearning are we talking about? It isn’t a one-time problem either. As all these applications are newly-released and updated you are drowning in a losing battle.
The main problem is 1. Can’t use xfa form except masterpdf (old version can be activated with keygen) 2. Printer support is flaky Often times u set the print area and all but document prints differently. This depends upon the app you are printing from.
?? there are much better game options on linux than macos now. macos doesn't really have full vulkan yet, and dxvk and proton let you run almost anything nowadays, with the major exceptions being competitive games that require extensive rootkit-based anticheats that are blocked from being played on non-windows kernels. they're pretty close to some big breakthroughs to get proton working on the mac, but they're not quite out yet.
and as unfortunate and final as the decision is to not support systems that run a linux kernel in most cases, THANKS TIM EPIC, there's actually been some progress with some common anti-cheat platforms themselves making kernel modules that allow anti-cheats to work. what with the steam deck selling gangbusters and a growing number of people playing games on linux since you can just kind of play most of them with very little overhead, even that is looking to change
Nowadays, Ubuntu installation is way more simple than Windows. So I completely disagree with the first point. It support secure boot, it has beautiful and intuitive graphical installer with several options for automatic installation.
having it be difficult to install is a good thing, it teaches you a thing or two about how your computer works. next time you do it, its actually easy. so this "problem" is at worst a temporary one. plus 90% of distros are made to be really easy to install any way so none of this applies. these are easier than windows, faster too.
Every OS has pros and cons. I first used Linux 25 years ago, and I still use it, but in my experience it's best as a server OS. I tend to use Windows as my day-to-day OS. Too many headaches on Linux that get in the way of productivity. I don't want to be fighting my computer all the time. Windows, well, just works. I'd never use it to host my website though. I've kinda settled on Debian as my go-to distro when I need Linux.
Many UEFI implementations are buggy and can have problems booting from USB ports - your MSI laptop may be one of them. The booting can depend on the brand of the USB drive and even the port. I have a Dell Latitude 5175 2-in-1 that won't boot from the type-A port containing a Samsung FIT drive, but it will boot from the same drive if I insert it in a USB hub plugged into the type-C port. No such problem with that drive in any of my other laptops.
Forget entirely about Game Industry releasing games for Linux. Some have done. But what happens over time with Linux is "API Rot" which means after 4 years or so, your game that ran fine before now does not run. This is because linux doesn't maintain backwards binary compat like Windows does with Win32, DirectX etc etc. So Valve's approach is the best, in that Proton is developed to do realtime syscall translation to linux from windows with Wine. Most games have great runtime support in Linux with Proton. Some do not. There is a proton db which shows you the game/issues that people face and workarounds. In my experience, I was find with Nioh on Epic with Heroic Games Launcher in Linux, until I upgraded and the perf went to 7 fps in 3d games. I will need to nuke the OS as changing to a new user account has the same issue.
@@gljames24 Sure, sounds like potential there. But each linux release would need users to use such a mechanism to preserve their installations right? But also, how about in the case where someone purchases another game in 2023 to their backlog and ends up trying to run the installer for the 1st time in 2030 - and in the meantime API Rot has taken place several times over in the interim with the Linux updates? (when they get time to play that game in their long backlog)
To much software you don't use? Than Neon is for you because it comes with very little installed and that's why I use the minimal version of Kubuntu because the same. I tried Neon but the constant updates that needed reboots all the time drove me crazy. 4 months using Kubuntu 22.10 and it has been a joy to use. Quick, stable and with Qogir dark theme together with Papirus dark icons, looks good too IMO😉
First argument, yallready lost me, it's not more difficult to install than any other os, it's just that you have to install it compared to some othet os that made deals with manufacturer's.
I know how you feel! I'm bouncing between Debian, Fedora, and Kubuntu at the moment. My big bug-bear is getting Nvidia drivers and AMD GPU drivers working correctly and fully on Linux. Everything just works with Windows. I feel that this is the biggest problem area for Linux, and it's really a problem caused by Nvidia's refusal to work with the FOSS community. I prefer to stick with Debian but it's bad at GPU drivers (for the stated reason). I've already had to reinstall Debian 12 from scratch on a new machine because my first attempt to install Nvidia drivers bricked the system. I always have to go through this rigmarole until I finally manage to get something working or give up and struggle on with the nouveau driver. Even if I do get something working it's often only for a certain (LTS) version and fails again soon as something is updated. Fedora and rpmfusion seem to work the best so far, but Fedora updates far too often for my liking: it's a virtual rolling release, but Fedora don't call it that (mainly because major version numbers of systems and programs don't get updated within a Fedora version)
@@Shalmaneser1 trying to get a machine with a 3050 working right now. Fedora works with any Nvidia card using rpmfusion drivers (I only have 3000-series cards).
Nice "rant." ;) Lifetime linux user here. Installing can sometimes be a hassle. Life with that, a computer is a technical device, a machine. The most important thing is that it's free and open source. Dirty Bill was never able to push it aside by buying it. Because nobody owns it! Very important these days! That's also a reason why many governments use it. Actually, governments shouldn't be allowed to use proprietary software. Licensing is stealing taxpayers' money! BTW, the internet runs on Linux. Even a Mac book pro I have runs Linux very well. That's obvious because Apple is basically Linux. And you didn't mention that a lot of open source also runs on Windows or Mac. Windows 11 seems to take that even further with Linux in a virtual environment, although I never looked into it. Anyway, stay away from fancy messing around, Windows or Mac comes not even close in usability or functionality. Core Linux is about functionality. Commercial software is about identity and forcing you to buy their crap.
Your video is good, but unfortunately I don't agree with you. 1.) There are distros that are very difficult to download, but there are also distros that are very easy. Specifically Calamer Installer 2.) Yes, hardware compatibility is low and I would have agreed with you if you said that 10 years ago, but it's getting better now. 3. Yes, sometimes you may need to use a terminal, but this has decreased a lot with the development of distributions in recent years. Also, using the terminal is easier and faster than the interface, in my opinion. You don't need to know the packages of all distributions. It is enough if you know the command of the package you are using. (Example: Debian apt or arch pacman)
4.) Yes, the number of packages is less, but there are many open source alternatives to closed source applications. Also, although I do not recommend it, it is possible to run applications that are not available for linux. 5 and 6.) Richness for linux to have more distros and desktop environments. It's not the only one like Windows and other OS. Linux provides freedom in this way.
7.) As I said before, you need to know all package managers. In addition, Flatpak provides ease of downloading packages regardless of which distribution you are using. 8.) Some linux distros allow you to choose packages. You can choose the package before installation. Example: Like Arcolinux D and EndevourOS
1, yes. Linux will never flourish for general use until they make it easier to install. 2, yes. Getting peripherals to work is hit and miss, and updates ruin things. 3, yes. It should be optional to use terminal, for geeks. Gui should rule, like Macos 4, yes, but not so serious. 5, yes, very definitely. Too many distros, too fragmented. 6, yes. Too many. 7, yes, simplify managers. 8, yes, but not serious, and you can delete excess apps. 9, yes, but I don't play games. If games are important, do Windows. 10, yes. Stupid error messages in Mint drive me crazy. Use real language, not geek speak. .
Very valid points. But to tell you the truth, i have seen installations in windows go wrong. One time, i believe windows was perfect. The i started helping people with windows and found a) very hard to get to the root of problem b) very hard to find decent answers to questions c) many efforts implementing different solutions can break the system worst. However, like you, i don't play games and am somewhat familiar with computers and at this point in life i love Linux. Yes installation of distro is similar to windows with regards to installing it from scratch, but windows is a long procedure. I believe Linux is for folks who like to learn more about computers and how they work. I believe that Linux itself is an excellent IDE for programming...its like it was meant for programming and tweaking and to just have fun. Windows is for the other users, that don't really care about how it works but just want it to work....and of course you have your game players. But i found many game players are programmers or hackers that set up a virtual machine to play their windows games or even setup dual-boot, so they can work in Linux.
I don't agree with the fact it's mainly for programming. I use Linux as a daily machine without any problem. In fact, I find it easier than Windows or Mac.
It's too fragmented, too many desktops and Distros, there needs to be more consolidation and cooperation to get proper focus on fixing all these issues.
I use on a daily basis Windows on my Dell business computer (MS environment) , Ubuntu on my private computers (Dell Precision+Nividia), Raspbian on my Pi's, IOS on my Ipad Pro and Android on my Samsung S22, my NAS runs Linux, my server for Virtual environments runs Proxmox on Linux. For my personal needs the Linux software available is fine, i don't play games on pc's. I don't need the the over engineered and expensive software packages with 80 % of things in don't need. All OS's have certain problems to some extend. But for me i like the Linux way, just copy/paste/type a command string witch parameters, problem solving in Linux is much faster than in Windows. In Windows its always on another screen somewhere, but you can do the most. On IOS you are not allowed, or it is not from appel. Android integrates best the rest.
Oddly, I never got into "distro hopping". I started out with Slackware on Kernel 0.96, briefly switched to SuSE because I got tired of having to compile just about everything, then Fedora because SuSE was a mess, then Ubuntu... with a brief stint on Neon because I prefer KDE over Gnome. And now since well over a decade, Kubuntu because Neon just is too finicky. While I use Kubuntu for work and at home, daily, I would still say Linux is about the most terrible OS for normal users. Everything out there comes with Windows and Mac drivers, and you don't have to fiddle with stuff to get it to work. Forget about Linux on laptops. It's simply atrocious, even on "Linux laptops". Which are generally junk hardware anyway. On the other hand, on servers I'd never, ever use Windows. Aside from the completely inane, incomprehensible licensing of Windows server + components, it's just far easier to use a Linux server. Because there... everything, and I mean _everything_ just works.
Linux on laptops is a completely different experience now a days. As long as you're using a pretty recent kernel, for the most part everything just works (for old hardware things are generally just fine regardless). That sadly does mean that people using LTS builds of debian stuff are going to be the most likely have random hardware doesn't work issues, though this does mean the stuff that should be the "easiest" on paper might have the hardest to solve problems. With stuff like Fedora or Arch based systems pretty much everything just working is my experience. I DO remember the dark days when every wifi card seemed impossible to get going, and when optimus laptops left the dgpu basically unusable though... I guess the TLDR is if you use a more quickly updating distribution the laptop woes are mostly gone, something like Fedora might be a sane recommendation for the average person on that front. I have seen one wifi card issue in the last 4-5 years and that was done after a git clone sudo make install of a driver module, not exactly easy but I had one desktop that windows wouldn't install on because of MS's you must be on the internet to install even if the installer has no driver for your network device (had to do a bunch of hijinks to get past that). I would argue that as far as instructions go the ones for bypassing the windows install nonsense were more involved than the ones to install a wifi kernel module (and that DOES sound so very strange to say). It really is getting to the point where it's not really more difficult or tedious on either side, but just a matter of different problems. But I've spent more time cleaning up after broken windows updates (MS loves to bork my audio drivers for some bizarre reason) in the last couple years than fixing rolling release issues on EndeavourOS and formerly Manjaro so I think we might be on the verge of a true pick your poison scenario very soon.
Linux gaming is a lot better these days. MacOS doesn't even compare to that. The only actual obstacle are anti cheat software that often don't work on Linux and that's why you can't play some multiplayer games. But purely technically, the games themselves are able to run, just the anticheat doesn't.
My main point for me is, the cost of computers specifically Brand ones, so why I prefer to build my own. Mac's I used before all this but as I got older yea price wise is a major issue. Then windows lol don't get me started there, pay for it to be vulnerable to viruses and ransomware, yea no thanks. I do like learning, as well as learning from my own mistakes. I use LM xfce myself and love apt, synaptic. Just prefer to stick to what I know and am used to. One distro that really irritated me tho was as of late Debian 11. Wouldn't connect at all through USB Tethering. Did at first with Bluetooth tethering tho, though only after an update and reboot to lose that ability as well. So yeah will stick with LM and just hope any future newer LM or update won't break that as well.
Just downloaded Lubuntu 18.04 for super old Dell A860 Vostro and just wow, it brought it back from the dead! Really shocked how much faster the performance is vs Windows
I bought the Raspberry Pi 4B 8GB in the Vilros keyboard/touchpad hub and a 8bitdo N30 wireless mouse. I run Berryboot OS's and am very happy. I got everything before the prices went up though. I don't know if I would buy it at today's prices. I think I like Windows a bit better and haven't tried Android 12 yet like on the Orange Pi 800. I may get it because of the VGA. I love VGA for a 4:3 monitor for Retro games. Linux is probably somewhere in the middle for me. If I could code I think it would be my favorite. I use the original Petite Computer on the 3DS because I transferred it from my DSI. I loved the QR code feature. Anyways Linux is just Meh!!! More for Retro games than getting anything done. I guess it depends on who you are and what you expect.
Very nice! Thank you. All the problems you pointed out in your video I have experienced installing or using Linux. Regardless, I continue using Linux as much as possible. I still have to use Windows and Google at work. But at home I use Linux.
I could not agree more and haha, that problem with the time for fixing things is the same here. Some thoughts: Flatpak brought the software situation a huge step forwards. On the distros I use (Manjaro, Tumbleweed, Oracle Linux) I get practically everything in the distros repository or as a Flatpak (and one additional AppImage for XNViewMP). And the Windows Emulation for games makes great steps forward especially from what Valve brought to the Steam Deck, that speeded up development and helped a lot. The gaming situation is at least way better as on MacOS. All your points are correct, but in my recognition, Linux made the largests steps in its history right in the last years.
Around 2011/2012 I remove ubuntu desktop from my system, and never use it until now. for disable secure boot, yes most of distro that i try need to set that. But for EUFI to legacy is no need. Yup for finger print, my swift 5 also didnt work. For other problem in video I didnt face it (my mouse is logitech MX Master 2s and HP printer) for game i use steam client with proton, and dont have any problem for my game (tomb rider series, god of war, final fantasy 7 remake etc)
Have you tried a fresh install of Windows lately, it takes most of a day to install and update! I can get a Linux distro up in half an hour easy (not sure about Mac, I never use it). Yea, turn off secure boot (unless you are using Ubuntu) it was a lot easier before Microsoft made us do that. I save in the cloud so if I break something that is hard to fix, wipe, re-install, login. How blessed are we that so many good people work so hard to make all of these Linux distros work!
The part of how to ente the Bios and use the bios quick boot menu to choos your installation usb stick is tno linux issue at all, that ist just a - i want to install any other operating system on my hardware at all- even reinstalling windows you must jump the exact same loops. and the part with the linux compatibility -- maybe - yes, but you would have had the choice to buy a fully 100% linux compatible Laptop from one of the company, that sell the laptops with linux preinstalled and also which support the Hardware used in that laptops.
I used Linux as my primary OS from 2004 till 2013. Then I bought a Mac. I’m a software engineer so I still use the terminal a lot and I manage Linux servers. I just don’t have the time to play with Linux on my desktop even though it certainly has some nice things going for it.
First mistake any home user can make with linux...Choosing ubuntu with their choice of desktop environments. Ubuntu is bad because it often gets next to no kernel patches to enhance its overall usability. The complete lack of kernel patches makes it in general less stable and less performant. Things are more likely to break as well because of cpu scheduler and resource management is $hit when it comes to handling inputs and outputs responsibly. packages break more often than they should. There is so little actual reason to use it when compared to other distros based on it. The fact that ubuntu based distros are almost universally better then ubuntu it self is downright embarrassing.
I call bullshit! I have switched several family members and friends over to Linux Mint over the last few years. None of them have had to touch the command line. They are able to do everything they need to from the GUI.
Just wanted to point out that several of the big distros, Ubuntu, Fedora and OpenSuse are signed with the MS secure boot key, so you do not need to disable secure boot.
BTW, Skatteverket 7:37 ;)
I still find it easier to disable Secure Boot when trying to get GPU drivers working than add the extra level of complexity that is driver signing.
@@treyquattro Sure, that's a fair point. I've had the same issue in Windows where I have to disable to the system driver signature verification when using "non authorized" drivers.
@@treyquattro ditto.. Nvidia..
Same for the Arch too. I didn't touch the BIOS at all on my first installation and boot. Everything worked straight.
Your issue with the BIOS isn't a Linux issue and has everything to do with the manufacturer of your computer. This is the same set of issues in Windows as well, just look at the issues people had when upgrading to Windows 11 for many people because of the TPM requirement.
This is not about "why Linux is worse than Windows", but about "why Linux is bad in my opinion". It's not working out for them, so it is not a good experience, regardless of whether other OSs have similar issues or not.
No i`t`s a linux issue BIOS makers cannot and will not make exeptions for less than 1% of users, so the blame is on linux.
It should just be better after all we are not living in the dark ages anymore.
@@brugj03 Bios is the pc maker.. F2 F3 F4 F8 F9 or esc or delete. They need a standard button say F2 for all pc's !!
@@brugj03 You also need to enter the bios to install windows to have the proper settings. Your comment is bullshit.
@@muadrico Any modern mobo with default bios settings will install windows.
You can go into the bios to tune settings and make it faster.
But windows will still install.
I really don`t know about linux but i presume it`s the same.
Having linux issues with the bios which make it mandatory to enter the bios is as problematic as the whole windows tpm farce.
But atleast you are not dependent on the hellish linux community to get your problems fixed.
00:26 Difficult to install
03:01 Hardware compatibility
04:46 Command line is inevitable
06:48 Limited software availability
07:41 Too many distros
08:34 Too many desktops
09:31 Program installation
10:38 Pre-installed apps
11:20 Linux Games
12:22 Troubleshooting
You shall be replaced by gpt. In fact you may already be gpt. Hello gpt.
Thanks for your effort! Much appreciated.
Too much choice and feeedom how awful 😂
@@aaron6841 The paradox of choice is an observation that having many options to choose from, rather than making people happy and ensuring they get what they want, can cause them stress and problematize decision-making.
😥
@@technolus5742 if you want 0 choice and want to be locked into a ecosystem use windows or mac! All this bullshit about making Linux useable for everyday consumers is rubbish there are already operating systems for these people we don't have to destroy Linux to appease everybody.
The USB boot order is going to be an issue no matter what OS you're installing from USB. That's not a Linux issue. That's just how computers work.
The most annoying thing about Linux is typing password for almost everything you do.
Perfectly summarized. After all it is a tool in a toolbox. Just pick and choose the correct tool for the current job at hand 💪😎
Show me the job where you like to be sniffed at. At completely forced to use a Microsoft account etc. Great.
Great 🙂
I recommend ventoy for your linux USBs! Once it's installed on a flash drive you just copy multiple distros in and boot any of them from it
Yes! +1
I just found that too!
Yes sir!
Tried that.
My laptop can't boot up anything now.
yep, that works...... I have a stick with Ventoy and a few O/S's.... and wait for it... a few important files as well. It's awesome.
Linux doesn't come pre installed. This may the biggest reason people don't use Linux
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My experience with Linux was pretty much like this. But I discovered immutable systems and that fixed most of these issues except program compatibility. I do not own an Nvidia card so i have no driver issues also
Oh also ever since Steam and Proton, gaming is no longer an issue unless your game has an aggressive anticheat
Which immutable systems?
@@makhan28 i use fedora kinoite because i prefer KDE Plasma, but it's still a bit unfinished compared to silverblue and there is no GUI to update the system yet
I use Arch linux on a Asus ROG zephryus S17 and I haven't had any problems setting up Nvidia optimus, everything works flawlessly
@@b-lotus5145 Cool. Thanks for your reply 👍 🙂
I have been using Linux for about 20 years. Used it for about 7 years for my main system. I still love it for servers and embedded systems, but for a desktop I switched back to windows. Especially the fragmented side of things and always having to fiddle around for many evenings or even weekends. Like you said, with a job and family to take care of, I just don't have time for it. As well as the non-stop "solutions", that are extremely often a half baked work-around. Including this was 4 times when I was completely locked out my OS because of some bad software updates (those were auto updates from the package manager). Since the bad direction Windows 11 is going atm, I might to go back at some point maybe.
Gaming is so much easier now that Steam has developed Proton. Mostly those games that are the last to enable EAC need a lot of tinkering. But there are exceptions, of course, including indies.
Accept for the fact I've tried using steam and it doesn't launch games. Go ahead. Try and bootlick for that
The first part is exactly the same with windows installation. And probably dependign on the hardware, you could face something similar in windows, but yes, most laptops are made with windows in mind and tested with windows, so very unlikely :)
7:48
Pro tip: go for the top most popular distros and pick the one you think looks nice
They are the ones most likely to have the most support
Also, I don't quite understand why having multiple desktops be a bad thing
Just use any one of the more popular desktops. Since the features there are all usually enough
Having so many desktops for different purposes here for advanced users balances out with having complete desktops like Plasma or Gnome for beginners
The problem isn't really in the desktops.
But more in the fact that, even in open source, there is a limited number of persons that work in this domain.
And so the development effort is distributed across all of them.
And while I wouldn't say that desktops as different as KDE and gnome are compatible. Some of them could just be customization option of others.
And the same could be said about many types of fork and projects.
@Orobas 66 not really
Popularity is a good indicator for the support it receives
It's much more difficult to screw up with that than a random obscure distro that some random people recommend for some specific features
Also, I doubt I'd recommend debian to anyone tho
I've always heard that it's prone to driver issues
My personal recommendation is kubuntu since it combines the good parts of Ubuntu and removes the bad parts
@Orobas 66 ah I see
I guess I'll add it to my recommendation list
> Kubuntu
> Pop!_OS
> Debian
I would just say start with Ubuntu, get used to it, then ask a different question later on "what do I use my computer for" and "what annoys me most about Ubuntu", then look at other distros.
@@edwardecl fair enough
Just for your information. All operating systems, including Windows, struggle with booting from USBs thanks to Microsoft making companies change the BIOS for "security" reasons. I put it in quotes because the Black Lotus malware uses these features specifically to hijack Windows while Linux is inmune to it. Installing Linux is easy, what is difficult is your laptop's BIOS/hardware :)
@user You literally just described the process that you have to do in Linux as well. Think before you type.
@user I never have had to turn off secure boot. Maybe your motherboard is garbage, which happens, and Windows can have trouble with certain motherboards as well.
I have the finger print reader in my Lenovo laptop, works without any problem with the right driver. Found it online and installed it without much problem.
11:02
Calender?
I think that's a personal issue on your side
I don't see how a default calender app is useless
If you want as little apps installed by default, choose minimal install for your Linux distro
Also, I personally recommend kde apps that come with any kde plasma distro
Those apps are simple and overpowered
Nothing is easy for new users because they are a new users. If you swixh from windows to mac os and vice versa things may look wierd. Some things look and feel wierd when you change one windows version to another. Using a cli is a bad thing why?
You're implying that the only thing contributing to the Linux learning curve is that it's a different platform, which is inaccurate. Basic QoL features expected of a modern desktop OS are missing from every distro, every DE. If you expect a platform to be usable by anyone besides tech enthusiasts, CLI usage must be optional (not that the skill isn't useful!)
@@tumescent honestly, can't complain
Cli is overpowered
Also can you give some examples for basic stuff you can't find on Linux?
@@tumescent "CLI usage must be optional (not that the skill isn't useful!)"
It is optional on many distros. If one want to completely avoid terminal aka cli then he / she got lots of options / distros that will spoon feed you.
Cli is the only option in some cases (when something breaks gravely)
Even on windows in some cases the only thing that can save a sorry user as* is powershel. Of course you have the option of reinstall your system from the scratch. You can do the same on linux. But we prefer not to . If you have backup. You can use linux without cli for years.
But Being lazy is better. We must change good tools, because lazy people who refuse to learn anything want to use them. No thx just go user something else. We do not give an F if you think we are toxic. Try your it must be optional wit bsd people, good luck with that."Basic QoL" WTF are you talking about, basic quality of life are missing from some os. Linux is not a basic need that's a first. Its a tool, like it use it, dont like it then don't.
Yes i definitely implying that the main difficulty of linux is a lack of understanding that this is not a windows but different looking. It is a different system period.
Same goes with bsd , windows or mac os
I strongly disagree with difficult to install part,
Have you ever clean installed windows & searched for drivers from manufacturer?
yeah bro it's right but when i was trying to get ubuntu first it was the hardest part for me in linux cuz i was beginner, yeah if i was a mac user and switching to windows it will hard for me for the first time, so it's not mean it's hard to install linux, but cuz of windows is pre installed it feels hard for the first time
1 - Using partitioning to install is not more difficult than using a Mac or a Windows computer installer.
For someone who has bever used a computer, installing Windows is not always so easy. You react by comparing with what you already know.
You are not supposed to do anything in the bios, excepted maybe disabling Secure Boot.
To install Windows, you sometime also need to enter the bios. This is not Linux specific.
So your first point is invalid.
2 - I never had any problem to install a printer. In fact, you can still use old printers, for which there's no more driver for Windows.
Installing priopretary video cards drivers is very difficult. On most distro, you need to click "Yes" and type a password.
That's crazely difficult ...
3 - if you use a user friendly distro, as you say, no need of command line.
So what's the point here ?
Complaining some distros a beginner won't use need command line ?
That's just stupid.
There are graphical interfaces for rsync or any other way to save your datas. So once again your point is not valid.
4 - Too many distros and desktops...
Well, what's the problem ?
There are too many car models in the world. Why don't we all drive the same ?
Maybe because we have the choice, and can use the one that fits our need ?
Really, is it a problem to complain about ?
In fact, even if there are 600 distros, people usually use Ubuntu, Debian, RedHat, Arch or Suse. So where 's the problem ?
I won't say Linux is perfect. But most of your complains are not valid.
I've been using it as my main Os since 1998 ...
Troubleshooting I think has less to do with Linux and more to do with what you’re doing on your computer. I used windows for 15 years before switching to linux for my desktop usage, and I can tell you I had to troubleshoot PLENTY of stuff on Windows. And not even just cause I was tinkering with stuff; programs crash, updates break things, all the same on Windows as on Linux. I can hardly even say it happens more on Linux, as if you aren’t savvy enough to start doing the things that could easily break stuff in Linux, you won’t even know to do them. Normal desktop usage in the most popular distros (Fedora, Ubuntu, Leap) has been prime-time grade in my experience.
Of course, I will admit that this isn’t the case everywhere, though. Talking of hardware, even popular distros can struggle to support everything in a laptop right out of the box. But it’s definitely getting better!
Fedora has been a great distro for me for 15 years. Linux gets tricky when you distro hop - different package managers, different desktops, etc, etc. Fedora, Gnome, DNF. Easy peasy....And totally awesome.
I've hated Redhat since Redhat 5. I just tried fedora workstation but they ruined the UI.
@@towardsthelight220 That's the great think about Linux.....flavours for everyone. I am a simple guy. I want simplicity, safety, stability, and ergonomics. Fedora attains those things more or less. If you want something more whizz bang, then sure, Arch variants, go for it. What I don't understand is how anyone can use Windows. Seriously. And I think if you are porting from Windows, something like Fedora or Ubuntu is the obvious choice.
But why?, but people should try themselves to find which distro is easy peasy for them.
I too was in illusion that rhel based distro were hard... but I am really surprised with what I missed by others opinions when I found out how amazing Fedora is.
The two biggest problems with Linux that I have are the lack of a binary device driver interface and the excessive interdependency of software packages.
if you don't want any inter-dependency at all... install flatpaks. Everything is contained with in the flatpak. You can delete it, and it will go, and not effect anything else.
Maybe it is the type of Linux you used.... I haven't had problems with Mint, Ubuntu or Debian.... and no doubt there are a few other distro's that work equally well also. The latest Mint, on a fresh install, just worked..... including all the devices plugged into the PC, some of them used to be hard to get to work. Not this time. Any problems , check that your kernel is up to date, particularly if using the latest hardware. A kernel upgrade worked for a problem that I did encounter with a new, latest and greatest PC. Otherwise, no problems.
in half a year of daily driving linux i've had more problems, issues, inconsistencies and general bs than in 20+ years of running windows. the help from both distro (fedora) and de (plasma) communities was underwhelming at best, so some issues were left unresolved. and there was no actual pragmatic reason to run linux instead of windows workflow/possibilities-wise. best case scenario is you run the same software and non-native works through wine. worst case is you're left hanging. i was pretty surprised that even the most basic thing such as media playback, both music and video, is inferior on linux. you can only go that far on pure curiosity and philosophical preferences and disdain towards microsoft - at the end of the day you just need to do stuff.
things you don't like about linux is "you have to install linux compared to windows or mac, which just comes preinstalled in most of the devices"? I think even installing the other OSes are also similarly complicated.
The command line is by far my favorite fetaure, and far from a disagvantage to me but i get that it scares people away, and if your hopping around distros i undertand the anoyance and its a big part of why i stopped hopping in the first place :)
I love the terminal. Once you learn a few commands, it's just faster and easier to use it than click through a bunch of guis
Remember, every computer was once DOS or UNIX based, or ran on a similar terminal OS. People were comfortable with command lines as late as 1998 (you still had to boot into DOS to play DOS games).
@@mysticaxolotl8215 Yes I remember, i owned several, still do...
people arent scared...im not scared....We're insulted....ive been using linux for over 10 yrs..im insulted.
create a gui...its 2023..ive been in cab in the 3rd world with a gui on the payment machine.
we're asking for a check box or one of those little info popups not elden ring graphics...
my computer will do those graphics....why am i looking at a black screen and text?
the world IS willing to pay!!...half of whats awesome about linux is locked away in CLI.
@@kazzxtrismus 10 years 20 years were just plaing off out age now GUIs suck.
It always baffles me when Linux users say linux work's flawlessly and is way more stable than windows, and it runs every game, or etc, like dude are we living in the same universe? I tried Linux many times and every time something broke, (mint, Ubuntu,pop_os, fedora, etc), they say it's actually not Linux fault and it's because of the developers and other companies not developing for Linux, but i DON'T care, why, it just doesn't work...
so the people providing software from other companies aren't correctly writing it for linux? That's the software peoples fault. Underneath, the LINUX is still working fine...
And if you want a distro that just works, I just fresh installed Linux Mint 21.3...... and everything just worked out of the box.... including some previously hard to get working
accessories plugged into the USB... it all just went. The new Debian 12 has good reviews too, but I haven't tried it yet.
Oh those problems with software that won't work on your Linux.... well do they work on Windows?
I would add to you thoughts that another problem of Linux is toxicity of most Linux communities. For example it is normal in Arch Linux community to hate Ubuntu or even Fedora users instead of concentrating efforts in making Linux better. Agree with you that the fragmentation of Linux distros are very harmful to reliability. We should better have a few but stable and reliable distros. Anyway all that diversity of distros can be narrowed to main distros on which them are based - Debian (Ubuntu), Fedora, Arch...
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I totally agree with you. I have been using Windows for years and because I am a programmer many of my friends and colleagues tried to convince me to move to Linux. These Windows haters then turned against themselves when I asked which distro to use. Eventually I tried Mint but then got criticised again for not using other distro. So in a nutshell, whether I use Windows or Linux I Will get criticised not matter what. I moved to Windows and is now happy and content and really could not care less. Why am I still following this channel, beacause I love to learn and the fact that this presenter is super amazing, straight to the point and honest
I installed MX Linux , but there is no app for connecting my phone network provider internet to the Linux but there is for windows. And the window 7 verison works for win 11. Windows all the way . We just need a way to customize windows like Linus tec said
@Average Linux User, The one thing Linux should incorporate is device manager like windows, my Ubuntu upgradation changed driver settings and my touchscreen driver made mouse pointer dangling, opening random apps and I couldn't find a clear and safe way to disable touchscreen. Linux community should look into providing GUI for device manager
1. Use the cli like a true Linux gigachad or 2. Google and find a half dozen options, e.g. hardinfo
Thats not a bad idea. It could scan services and kernel mods and cross that with /dev and /sys. Till then you can use the mod commands (lsmod rmmod etc) and lsusb, lspci, and lsblk. And look in /sys and /dev. Gparted is a decent gui block device manager.
these guys are both exactly what drives new users AWAY from linux...
if its stuck in terminal/CLI = Linux CANT do it = this feature doesnt exist.
its 2023 not 1993...everything has a gui now...dishwashers, fridges, payment devices in the back of a cab in the 3rd world........linux has been refusing a gui device manager for almost 20yrs...
they want you to buy a book thicker than a bible memorize it and sacrifice your family while your 4k monitor and $500 graphics card can display a black screen and text like 1990s Dos.....
meanwhile none of the rest of us have seen anything like that in 15+ years on a PC or EVER on a phone
Thank the developers for lusting to touch every piece of software or code in any distro of Linux....They don"t live by the motto: If it's not broke, don't fix it. And further, they need to learn how to program using abstract code. I would even argue rewriting all of Linux in C++.
They are already doing that, but with the memory safe Rust Language.
"if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
"I would even argue rewriting all of Linux in C++"
Actually impressive. I couldn't contradict myself harder even if I tried
@@tumescent lmao yea
C++ is one language you should never write a kernel in
this video is wrong in so many ways, but most confusing claim for me is this distro hopping and "dispersion" taken as a downside. If you're a beginner, you will not distrohop enough to be confused with "different ways". If you like distrohopping that much, youre not a beginner anymore and you shurely have to realize advantages of this "dispersion" by now. No, you dont need to use terminal. No, its not more difficult to install than Windows on a blank PC and if you compare it to preinstalled pc then it's not a fair comparison... just buy a laptop with preinstalled Linux then. No, installing software is easier than Windows and centralized in a single "store app".
My 80 year old non-htech father is using Linux Mint for last six years without a glitch. Yes he didn't install it, I did it, but 10 years ago, with Windows, I had frequent visits to him to fix system issues. Last time I logged in on his PC was when I installed it.
I personally don't agree with "difficult to install"
Linux, or Popular Linux distros is far easier and less time consuming than Windows for the installation
Partitioning isn't even a necessary thing to learn for the install since there even is an automatic partition selecting mode in most installers
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Well look on the bright side, atleast you can, troubleshoot Linux properly
1. difficult to install - subjective, it really depends on whether or not you've installed windows before on your own using install media. that said secure boot is the issue that only a couple distros even try to work around. the current problem right now is needing to disable it every time you want to update your nvidia driver with your kernel updates. that's honestly pretty annoying even for an experienced user.
2. hardware compatibility - this is fairly true with more obscure hardware, and to some extent some fairly common ones(usually wifi). am surprised you had a problem with your finger print reader. Mine works fairly well, but then again mine is an ancient T2400 laptop. the mic issue is an interesting one. for me I have a lot of background noise so it's not something i'd notice. I just slap on a noise gate/suppression in OBS and it's fine. but given that it's specific to that laptop, it could be an issue with the USB port(s) if it's a USB mic. my condenser mic had an xlr to USB connector, and it'd pick up line noise because it was powered off of the USB port. swapping ports would occasionally fix the issue.
3. command line is inevitable - sadly, another true statement. something will eventually bork, and you'll end up needing to issue CLI commands to fix.
4. Limited software availability - not really true if you're willing to learn a new work flow and pick up an alternative. this requires time however, and time is in short supply for some.
5 & 6. too many distros/desktop environments - I've been banging this fragmentation drum since 2008, but nobody's listening. 😢 Personally i'd rather have 3 or 4 major projects and scripts to add in the customizations that the various derivatives provide, as opposed to having a million derivatives dividing up the focus of talented devs.
7. program installation - There are a lot of ways to install programs, that differ depending on the distro you're on, but the only one that's a bit annoying to deal with is source code.
8, Preinstalled apps - I think this is mostly a preference things, that said there are a lot of distros that provide a minimum installer(though more doing this would be nice).
9. Gaming - gaming on linux IS annoying for sure, but for me it mostly boils down to nvidia and proton not playing nice with each other if you also have an integrated GPU...I'm almost more inclined to blame nvidia there than valve. Not saying it's not proton's fault entirely, as this appears to be a WINE, in general, issue. basically WINE and proton will ignore your preferences and run on the integrated GPU instead of the discrete GPU. I still haven't found a way to fix this, so i've kinda abandoned that and gone back to windows for my gaming. However, If nvidia were more willing to play ball we could get a lot of things done, such as fixing the above issue, or finally giving X11 the axe and moving onto wayland. Then of course you have the Anti-cheat software which doesn't really do it's job on any platform in the first place. it's basically DRM 2.0 and it's even more craptastic.
10. Troubleshooting - fair enough, yeah, the average person doesn't have a spare couple hours(or days depending on the problem) just to hunt solutions down
600+ distros... Why ? But Why ?! Seems like a waste of collective time and energy.
I think the biggest problem that keeps Linux from progressing is the Linux community
I keep seeing people refusing to accept that Linux is hard to use and unfriendly to the average user
If you're trying to install into a drive that was used before, find a way to low level format that drive - or else, there's a chance you'll get a kernel panic situation with your installation media. Basically, your installation process will stall on you.
I never saw this happening.
"low level format" means something else and can only be done using manufacturer tools.
You mean: Re-formatting a partition, as some installers are not aware of existing directory trees, or come across the idea, of saving the old data/system there to a renamed tree (like Windows does), and offer taking over infos from /etc and /home.
as a full time linux user who hates linux, you got an instant thumbs up from me
As a new Linux user I have encountered all these issues but, compared to when my 11yr old Acer laptop was running win10. Linux is way much better.
The larger, more well-known distributions of Linux are almost mindless installs unless you plan to install several OSes. Installing Linux with Windows is pretty much automatic and easy. I can do a fresh install of Linux Mint 21.1 with updates in about twenty minutes. As far as hardware goes, the only issue I have ever had is with WiFi dongles, which many manufacturers do not provide Linux drivers for. And yes, the command line is inevitable, but for 90% of cases, very simple. Software availability really depends on your needs. I have never had any issues finding the software I need with Linux. Some FOSS software is great, some not so great, but there are almost always solutions.
For the record, I use Windows and Linux equally and don't find either one particularly difficult ;)
You don't have to hate Linux for games because it's a lack of game companies that don't develop games for Linux not an ability of Linux.
Well yeah initial setup can be a hassle but i just did a shell script after getting a stable distro, and if i am adding removing something i just update my script each time. If need to reinstall or setup on another machine i just bring my script from my github private repo, and in less then 30 minutes i have 1 - 1 replicate to my environment without even needing a browser on the machine, heck i don''t even need a GUI, it works from the terminal setups everything on it's own.
Whenever I type any key browser automatically close pop up windows in ubuntu?
Couldn't you have just said that it's only for super users?
Linux pc distributions are currently by no means user friendly, it's not like someone can recommend it to a 40 years old mother that still uses windows 7 on her 2011 laptop.
No, you could literally replace it with Linux, and she may not even notice her os changes at all, genuinely would just use it for web browsing and other basic stuff. The only advantage windows has over it is that everyone is already used to it and it takes time to unlearn, and then relearn something else.
@@bigbruv5328 you mean chrome os.
I was talking about running programs that normally runs on windows.
Not everyone can get comfortable with troubleshooting wine.
But if all that someone is going to do is using online tools or surfing the web then linux is more than perfect.
I always enjoy watching your videos and look forward to the next one.
What bothers me is almost every time they update things, I lose the vertical scroll arrows on the scrollbars. Sometimes modifying the GTK config files fixes it but this last time it didn't so most of my applications don't have a vertical scroll arrow. I prefer the scroll arrows. Others say to just use the wheel of the mouse but this is a pain and doesn't work as well as clicking the arrows and moving the scrollbar moves it too much. The problem is many see these arrowless vertical scrollbars as "cool" but for some it is a usability issue and they should have the freedom to choose to have the vertical scroll arrows.
This isn’t your distribution’s help forum. How do you expect anyone to help when you give no information as to what you’re using?
@@mfThump I'm not requesting help. I'm just explaining my personal opinion of Linux. It also happens in multiple distributions so it isn't just my distribution. Even if I do fix it, it will stop working again during a future update.
@@daniellesmith5950 I'm using FreeBSD and the mouse scroll stops work sometimes, so annoying, but I also use Linux (Void Linux). What distro do you use?
I use Linux Mint 21.1. I never had any install problems. I rum it on 2 desktops. My laser printer works just fine on Linux Mint. I use Cinnamon desktop, never any problems. I always lookup different ways to run programs that I need. I found ART for Linux to help process RAW photos from my Canon M6II camera. It is not super easy to use Linus but it isn't too difficult. I don't have windows and don't need windows.
oh man i can relate to so much in this video. i literally just bricked a new laptop trying to install dual boot popOS w/ windows 11 lol.
Biggest problem is Software Compatability Issues even for CS Students where Win or Mac version are readily available in many IDEs & Data Analysis packages❗️❓️
pretty accurate. Gaming has come a long way, it's not to total compatibility yet, but proton has been a godsend.
in regard to troubleshooting, I'd argue that macOS is the only alternative that doesn't suffer from it. However, most windows issues can be ignored by the end user through a reboot. In linux, when something breaks, it usually needs intervention
That's something I've observed about Windows as well. Windows has so many self-diagnosis and repair systems running in the background.
On the flip side to the magic reboot fix, you often have to fight Windows' attempts to fix itself to gain any handle on things if the problem lingers around.
That's why I keep saying "I prefer Linux not because it breaks less, but because it breaks reliably".
@@PixLgams And if Linux does break, you can usually fix it by reading the logs if you understand how things work. On Windows, good luck, usually reinstall the entire OS again.
We also have to recognize that this video would have been twice as long if done 5 years ago.
Good to hear the truth for one time's sake. Software compatibilities is mentioned in passing but is actually the major problem. Try to install Maya/Arnold/ Substance Painter/ Photoshop and other Adobe products + the 20-30 most used applications in content digital art on some Linux distros. How many man-months tinkering and relearning are we talking about? It isn’t a one-time problem either. As all these applications are newly-released and updated you are drowning in a losing battle.
The main problem is
1. Can’t use xfa form except masterpdf (old version can be activated with keygen)
2. Printer support is flaky
Often times u set the print area and all but document prints differently. This depends upon the app you are printing from.
I hate it when my dependencies have DEPENDENCIES for them and then more dependencies
I made photos with my cell phone and turned them into icons, then put them in my distro's icons folder. Now my desktop looks like 2025.
I could mention countless disadvantages of using a car, just because I don’t know how to drive...
?? there are much better game options on linux than macos now. macos doesn't really have full vulkan yet, and dxvk and proton let you run almost anything nowadays, with the major exceptions being competitive games that require extensive rootkit-based anticheats that are blocked from being played on non-windows kernels. they're pretty close to some big breakthroughs to get proton working on the mac, but they're not quite out yet.
and as unfortunate and final as the decision is to not support systems that run a linux kernel in most cases, THANKS TIM EPIC, there's actually been some progress with some common anti-cheat platforms themselves making kernel modules that allow anti-cheats to work. what with the steam deck selling gangbusters and a growing number of people playing games on linux since you can just kind of play most of them with very little overhead, even that is looking to change
Nowadays, Ubuntu installation is way more simple than Windows. So I completely disagree with the first point. It support secure boot, it has beautiful and intuitive graphical installer with several options for automatic installation.
Disable secure boot, evaluate your distro and enable it again.
I don't see any complication.
having it be difficult to install is a good thing, it teaches you a thing or two about how your computer works.
next time you do it, its actually easy. so this "problem" is at worst a temporary one.
plus 90% of distros are made to be really easy to install any way so none of this applies.
these are easier than windows, faster too.
Disabling secure boot is literally by the design of the specification for secureboot.
Every OS has pros and cons. I first used Linux 25 years ago, and I still use it, but in my experience it's best as a server OS. I tend to use Windows as my day-to-day OS. Too many headaches on Linux that get in the way of productivity. I don't want to be fighting my computer all the time. Windows, well, just works. I'd never use it to host my website though.
I've kinda settled on Debian as my go-to distro when I need Linux.
I've been using big linux and so far it's pretty stable and I do play steam games on it. And it's excellent.
Many UEFI implementations are buggy and can have problems booting from USB ports - your MSI laptop may be one of them. The booting can depend on the brand of the USB drive and even the port. I have a Dell Latitude 5175 2-in-1 that won't boot from the type-A port containing a Samsung FIT drive, but it will boot from the same drive if I insert it in a USB hub plugged into the type-C port. No such problem with that drive in any of my other laptops.
Isn't this installtion problem there for windows also??
Yea...
Linux installs are atleast 10 times more user friendly and streamlined than Windows
@@RenderingUser i post ponted installing a windows vm so much so that i hopped distro 2 times
it's annoying to install windows
Forget entirely about Game Industry releasing games for Linux. Some have done. But what happens over time with Linux is "API Rot" which means after 4 years or so, your game that ran fine before now does not run. This is because linux doesn't maintain backwards binary compat like Windows does with Win32, DirectX etc etc. So Valve's approach is the best, in that Proton is developed to do realtime syscall translation to linux from windows with Wine. Most games have great runtime support in Linux with Proton. Some do not. There is a proton db which shows you the game/issues that people face and workarounds. In my experience, I was find with Nioh on Epic with Heroic Games Launcher in Linux, until I upgraded and the perf went to 7 fps in 3d games. I will need to nuke the OS as changing to a new user account has the same issue.
Why not use OSTree to handle it like Flatpak uses?
@@gljames24 Sure, sounds like potential there. But each linux release would need users to use such a mechanism to preserve their installations right? But also, how about in the case where someone purchases another game in 2023 to their backlog and ends up trying to run the installer for the 1st time in 2030 - and in the meantime API Rot has taken place several times over in the interim with the Linux updates? (when they get time to play that game in their long backlog)
To much software you don't use? Than Neon is for you because it comes with very little installed and that's why I use the minimal version of Kubuntu because the same. I tried Neon but the constant updates that needed reboots all the time drove me crazy. 4 months using Kubuntu 22.10 and it has been a joy to use. Quick, stable and with Qogir dark theme together with Papirus dark icons, looks good too IMO😉
I prefer Debian Xfce 😊
@@toddpark2893 I used it for some time too
First argument, yallready lost me, it's not more difficult to install than any other os, it's just that you have to install it compared to some othet os that made deals with manufacturer's.
I know how you feel! I'm bouncing between Debian, Fedora, and Kubuntu at the moment. My big bug-bear is getting Nvidia drivers and AMD GPU drivers working correctly and fully on Linux. Everything just works with Windows. I feel that this is the biggest problem area for Linux, and it's really a problem caused by Nvidia's refusal to work with the FOSS community.
I prefer to stick with Debian but it's bad at GPU drivers (for the stated reason). I've already had to reinstall Debian 12 from scratch on a new machine because my first attempt to install Nvidia drivers bricked the system. I always have to go through this rigmarole until I finally manage to get something working or give up and struggle on with the nouveau driver. Even if I do get something working it's often only for a certain (LTS) version and fails again soon as something is updated.
Fedora and rpmfusion seem to work the best so far, but Fedora updates far too often for my liking: it's a virtual rolling release, but Fedora don't call it that (mainly because major version numbers of systems and programs don't get updated within a Fedora version)
The last deep dive I did was Debian with a 1050TI. I'm running a 3070 these days. Interested in where you land.
@@Shalmaneser1 trying to get a machine with a 3050 working right now. Fedora works with any Nvidia card using rpmfusion drivers (I only have 3000-series cards).
Nice "rant." ;)
Lifetime linux user here. Installing can sometimes be a hassle.
Life with that, a computer is a technical device, a machine.
The most important thing is that it's free and open source.
Dirty Bill was never able to push it aside by buying it. Because nobody owns it!
Very important these days!
That's also a reason why many governments use it. Actually, governments shouldn't be allowed to use proprietary software.
Licensing is stealing taxpayers' money!
BTW, the internet runs on Linux.
Even a Mac book pro I have runs Linux very well.
That's obvious because Apple is basically Linux.
And you didn't mention that a lot of open source also runs on Windows or Mac.
Windows 11 seems to take that even further with Linux in a virtual environment, although I never looked into it.
Anyway, stay away from fancy messing around, Windows or Mac comes not even close in usability or functionality.
Core Linux is about functionality. Commercial software is about identity and forcing you to buy their crap.
Skatteverket ??? 😂 är du Svensk ?
Jag trodde du kom från nåt baltiskt land.
Tack för dina fina videor om Linux.
Jag ser alla med stort intresse.
Är du blind? Han är kenyansk.
the first "problem" doesn't even have anything to do with linux...
Windows is usually pre-installed. Linus is usually not.
Your video is good, but unfortunately I don't agree with you.
1.) There are distros that are very difficult to download, but there are also distros that are very easy. Specifically Calamer Installer
2.) Yes, hardware compatibility is low and I would have agreed with you if you said that 10 years ago, but it's getting better now.
3. Yes, sometimes you may need to use a terminal, but this has decreased a lot with the development of distributions in recent years. Also, using the terminal is easier and faster than the interface, in my opinion. You don't need to know the packages of all distributions. It is enough if you know the command of the package you are using. (Example: Debian apt or arch pacman)
4.) Yes, the number of packages is less, but there are many open source alternatives to closed source applications. Also, although I do not recommend it, it is possible to run applications that are not available for linux.
5 and 6.) Richness for linux to have more distros and desktop environments. It's not the only one like Windows and other OS. Linux provides freedom in this way.
7.) As I said before, you need to know all package managers. In addition, Flatpak provides ease of downloading packages regardless of which distribution you are using.
8.) Some linux distros allow you to choose packages. You can choose the package before installation. Example: Like Arcolinux D and EndevourOS
1, yes. Linux will never flourish for general use until they make it easier to install.
2, yes. Getting peripherals to work is hit and miss, and updates ruin things.
3, yes. It should be optional to use terminal, for geeks. Gui should rule, like Macos
4, yes, but not so serious.
5, yes, very definitely. Too many distros, too fragmented.
6, yes. Too many.
7, yes, simplify managers.
8, yes, but not serious, and you can delete excess apps.
9, yes, but I don't play games. If games are important, do Windows.
10, yes. Stupid error messages in Mint drive me crazy. Use real language, not geek speak.
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Very valid points. But to tell you the truth, i have seen installations in windows go wrong. One time, i believe windows was perfect. The i started helping people with windows and found a) very hard to get to the root of problem b) very hard to find decent answers to questions c) many efforts implementing different solutions can break the system worst.
However, like you, i don't play games and am somewhat familiar with computers and at this point in life i love Linux. Yes installation of distro is similar to windows with regards to installing it from scratch, but windows is a long procedure.
I believe Linux is for folks who like to learn more about computers and how they work. I believe that Linux itself is an excellent IDE for programming...its like it was meant for programming and tweaking and to just have fun. Windows is for the other users, that don't really care about how it works but just want it to work....and of course you have your game players. But i found many game players are programmers or hackers that set up a virtual machine to play their windows games or even setup dual-boot, so they can work in Linux.
I don't agree with the fact it's mainly for programming.
I use Linux as a daily machine without any problem. In fact, I find it easier than Windows or Mac.
@@nalinux Same. If I could get Void Linux fully functional on my laptop, then that would be my daily driver.
It's too fragmented, too many desktops and Distros, there needs to be more consolidation and cooperation to get proper focus on fixing all these issues.
but you don't have to use them all. Then it is simple....
I use on a daily basis Windows on my Dell business computer (MS environment) , Ubuntu on my private computers (Dell Precision+Nividia), Raspbian on my Pi's, IOS on my Ipad Pro and Android on my Samsung S22, my NAS runs Linux, my server for Virtual environments runs Proxmox on Linux. For my personal needs the Linux software available is fine, i don't play games on pc's. I don't need the the over engineered and expensive software packages with 80 % of things in don't need. All OS's have certain problems to some extend. But for me i like the Linux way, just copy/paste/type a command string witch parameters, problem solving in Linux is much faster than in Windows. In Windows its always on another screen somewhere, but you can do the most. On IOS you are not allowed, or it is not from appel. Android integrates best the rest.
idk, I play tomb raider, fallen order, GTA, doom, witcher and a bunch of indie games straight from the steam without any issues
use wine for the pdf thing to run windows progrrams
Oddly, I never got into "distro hopping". I started out with Slackware on Kernel 0.96, briefly switched to SuSE because I got tired of having to compile just about everything, then Fedora because SuSE was a mess, then Ubuntu... with a brief stint on Neon because I prefer KDE over Gnome. And now since well over a decade, Kubuntu because Neon just is too finicky.
While I use Kubuntu for work and at home, daily, I would still say Linux is about the most terrible OS for normal users. Everything out there comes with Windows and Mac drivers, and you don't have to fiddle with stuff to get it to work. Forget about Linux on laptops. It's simply atrocious, even on "Linux laptops". Which are generally junk hardware anyway.
On the other hand, on servers I'd never, ever use Windows. Aside from the completely inane, incomprehensible licensing of Windows server + components, it's just far easier to use a Linux server. Because there... everything, and I mean _everything_ just works.
Oh....
I guess I made the perfect choice to use kubuntu
It's the first and only distro I've installed and have been using for 3 years
Linux on laptops is a completely different experience now a days. As long as you're using a pretty recent kernel, for the most part everything just works (for old hardware things are generally just fine regardless). That sadly does mean that people using LTS builds of debian stuff are going to be the most likely have random hardware doesn't work issues, though this does mean the stuff that should be the "easiest" on paper might have the hardest to solve problems. With stuff like Fedora or Arch based systems pretty much everything just working is my experience. I DO remember the dark days when every wifi card seemed impossible to get going, and when optimus laptops left the dgpu basically unusable though...
I guess the TLDR is if you use a more quickly updating distribution the laptop woes are mostly gone, something like Fedora might be a sane recommendation for the average person on that front. I have seen one wifi card issue in the last 4-5 years and that was done after a git clone sudo make install of a driver module, not exactly easy but I had one desktop that windows wouldn't install on because of MS's you must be on the internet to install even if the installer has no driver for your network device (had to do a bunch of hijinks to get past that). I would argue that as far as instructions go the ones for bypassing the windows install nonsense were more involved than the ones to install a wifi kernel module (and that DOES sound so very strange to say). It really is getting to the point where it's not really more difficult or tedious on either side, but just a matter of different problems. But I've spent more time cleaning up after broken windows updates (MS loves to bork my audio drivers for some bizarre reason) in the last couple years than fixing rolling release issues on EndeavourOS and formerly Manjaro so I think we might be on the verge of a true pick your poison scenario very soon.
Linux gaming is a lot better these days. MacOS doesn't even compare to that. The only actual obstacle are anti cheat software that often don't work on Linux and that's why you can't play some multiplayer games. But purely technically, the games themselves are able to run, just the anticheat doesn't.
My main point for me is, the cost of computers specifically Brand ones, so why I prefer to build my own. Mac's I used before all this but as I got older yea price wise is a major issue. Then windows lol don't get me started there, pay for it to be vulnerable to viruses and ransomware, yea no thanks. I do like learning, as well as learning from my own mistakes. I use LM xfce myself and love apt, synaptic. Just prefer to stick to what I know and am used to. One distro that really irritated me tho was as of late Debian 11. Wouldn't connect at all through USB Tethering. Did at first with Bluetooth tethering tho, though only after an update and reboot to lose that ability as well. So yeah will stick with LM and just hope any future newer LM or update won't break that as well.
Had daily drived Ubuntu GNOME for about 5 years. I would never try KDE ever again. It broke my system.
Dealing with firejail issues and apt package stuff.
Just downloaded Lubuntu 18.04 for super old Dell A860 Vostro and just wow, it brought it back from the dead! Really shocked how much faster the performance is vs Windows
I bought the Raspberry Pi 4B 8GB in the Vilros keyboard/touchpad hub and a 8bitdo N30 wireless mouse. I run Berryboot OS's and am very happy. I got everything before the prices went up though. I don't know if I would buy it at today's prices. I think I like Windows a bit better and haven't tried Android 12 yet like on the Orange Pi 800. I may get it because of the VGA. I love VGA for a 4:3 monitor for Retro games. Linux is probably somewhere in the middle for me. If I could code I think it would be my favorite. I use the original Petite Computer on the 3DS because I transferred it from my DSI. I loved the QR code feature. Anyways Linux is just Meh!!! More for Retro games than getting anything done. I guess it depends on who you are and what you expect.
Very nice! Thank you. All the problems you pointed out in your video I have experienced installing or using Linux. Regardless, I continue using Linux as much as possible. I still have to use Windows and Google at work. But at home I use Linux.
I could not agree more and haha, that problem with the time for fixing things is the same here. Some thoughts: Flatpak brought the software situation a huge step forwards. On the distros I use (Manjaro, Tumbleweed, Oracle Linux) I get practically everything in the distros repository or as a Flatpak (and one additional AppImage for XNViewMP). And the Windows Emulation for games makes great steps forward especially from what Valve brought to the Steam Deck, that speeded up development and helped a lot. The gaming situation is at least way better as on MacOS.
All your points are correct, but in my recognition, Linux made the largests steps in its history right in the last years.
if you like learning something new, linux is right choice, but overall meaning of this is just exercising your brains
Around 2011/2012 I remove ubuntu desktop from my system, and never use it until now.
for disable secure boot, yes most of distro that i try need to set that. But for EUFI to legacy is no need.
Yup for finger print, my swift 5 also didnt work. For other problem in video I didnt face it (my mouse is logitech MX Master 2s and HP printer)
for game i use steam client with proton, and dont have any problem for my game (tomb rider series, god of war, final fantasy 7 remake etc)
Re: your mx master, have you tried the solaar, package? I've been able to pair some Logitech mice that didn't appear to detect using solaar.
Have you tried a fresh install of Windows lately, it takes most of a day to install and update! I can get a Linux distro up in half an hour easy (not sure about Mac, I never use it). Yea, turn off secure boot (unless you are using Ubuntu) it was a lot easier before Microsoft made us do that. I save in the cloud so if I break something that is hard to fix, wipe, re-install, login. How blessed are we that so many good people work so hard to make all of these Linux distros work!
My only reason is being a gamer. Proton has come a long way but doesn't solve all issues (yet), namely anti-cheats.
i honestly disagree with all of these
i recomend using cadmus to cancel the noise of your mic...
but that is too much noise, maybe cadmus cant solve it, its worth trying anyway.
The part of how to ente the Bios and use the bios quick boot menu to choos your installation usb stick is tno linux issue at all, that ist just a - i want to install any other operating system on my hardware at all- even reinstalling windows you must jump the exact same loops. and the part with the linux compatibility -- maybe - yes, but you would have had the choice to buy a fully 100% linux compatible Laptop from one of the company, that sell the laptops with linux preinstalled and also which support the Hardware used in that laptops.
You should do a things to do after installing Fedora 38 when it comes out.
I used Linux as my primary OS from 2004 till 2013. Then I bought a Mac. I’m a software engineer so I still use the terminal a lot and I manage Linux servers. I just don’t have the time to play with Linux on my desktop even though it certainly has some nice things going for it.
First mistake any home user can make with linux...Choosing ubuntu with their choice of desktop environments. Ubuntu is bad because it often gets next to no kernel patches to enhance its overall usability. The complete lack of kernel patches makes it in general less stable and less performant. Things are more likely to break as well because of cpu scheduler and resource management is $hit when it comes to handling inputs and outputs responsibly. packages break more often than they should. There is so little actual reason to use it when compared to other distros based on it. The fact that ubuntu based distros are almost universally better then ubuntu it self is downright embarrassing.
So I guess I'm good with kubuntu
I call bullshit! I have switched several family members and friends over to Linux Mint over the last few years. None of them have had to touch the command line. They are able to do everything they need to from the GUI.